 Odell says to sports illustrated. This wasn't no business move. This was personal. They thought they'd send me here to die Mmm. I mean that's that's heavy. Mmm. That's heavy that he would say something like that He knows the Giants received better offers for him in this story really but still chose to send him to Cleveland And he believes it was out of spite It's almost like a backhand towards Cleveland Isn't it away from him like does he sound like he's thrilled to be in Cleveland? He actually doesn't Yeah, they sent me here to die Like if you're in Cleveland and you're a big Browns fan aren't you like So are you unhappy like do you think you're gonna just he sees he's gonna die here now It's bizarre that he would say that River the catch is on fire Such a good that was such a great bit That was awesome But what do you make of even that quote like what like why do we keep to they could they could they had better offers for me and They sent me here to die Like the whole thing is also it's so spiteful all of it I I just feel that he has a lot of I don't know and if I'm a Giants fan in a weird way, I might feel oddly Flattered and like he obviously really did not want to get traded He really he they let's be clear from everything we hear the front office could not stand him and was doing Everything they could to get rid of him So are you do you want to be upset now that he's upset about it? No, he is upset about it and the fact that he just Keeps being upset. I mean like he just he's not letting it go hasn't been that long to be honest He should keep talking about it. I'm just I'm just looking at it as a human would I still be upset about it? Yeah, probably How long has it been this show it's been months five months four months. Yeah, it's been months But he keeps talking about it, and he keeps sounding like they did this to me look what they did to me They think this will break me and if I'm cleave, I'm like is it really that bad here It's like he's been there now for a while, and he's basically acknowledging the fact that this this sucks He doesn't want to be there. You don't think that's a little bit of a problem. I don't think I actually think those two things are Not necessarily mutually exclusive. I think he could be happy that he's on the team now But still it be hurt by the people getting the relationships with new people care about the new person and are still hurt by the last Relationship, okay, that happens all the time right, but this isn't a relationship Well, but it is an athlete, but it's no relationship. I understand you know, I just made a great point You just take a second nuts. It's it was a good point It's a fair point people are hurt by things great as strong if they use a human being all right If they make a trade with the Rams and he's in LA He's saying any of this I Think so really I don't think he's still bothered or is he I'm in LA This is where I wanted to be because it's where he wanted to be as you know I if they worked out a deal and said you know what we respect you Odell we like you we want you to be happy We're gonna send you where you want to be It's not best thing for us and they take a trade whatever they could do with the ramps No, I think and he's now in LA you think he's still talking about the Giants Yeah, hell no, I think people overstate how much he's upset because it's Cleveland I really do he's with his best friend. I don't think he hates that it's Cleveland I think he hates that the Giants were desperate to get rid of him I think if he was in LA you wouldn't hear a word about the Giants He'd tell you how much he's happy. He loves in LA. He'd be living the life He's in Cleveland where everything closes by 10 He's got no life right now. None. I he can't jet-set. He can't do anything All he is right now is a social media guy He's not a guy that can be out and about and do things because there's nothing to do there And now he's stuck there in the summer. He could be in LA and do whatever he wants He's working out. He's training. He could stay where he wants to be and be somebody that's on It's all set then to them. That's fine But at least he's out and doing stuff now it's starting to bother him because he's realizing I'm stuck here Can I tell you the truth? You're not already fall there, you know The leaves are already off the trees in Cleveland right now. You're not gonna like what I have to say here You are and I don't know are you gonna die? Here we go I don't normally think of you this way the New York thing. No, no, no, not the New York thing You're being the media guy You're being media guy. How am I being media media guy creates this narrative of we know it He just hates Cleveland. He can't stand being in Cleveland. Oh, I see we've never heard We don't know that so I'm being the reporter needs a story And I'm turning a quote into my story of the day because I needed a headline because everyone's already felt this way pretty good You're very good, but Michael and Don were obsessed with the same thing. They're like he hates Cleveland He doesn't I frankly think his feelings were hurt by being broken up with by the Giants wherever he'd gone Yeah, he may have more time to talk about it there because it's not as busy a lifestyle off the field I think his feelings were hurt no matter where he went and I actually think the Giants were terrible in the handling of Odell I don't think they handled this well at all at first. They empowered him too much then after empowering him too much They basically cut off Coughlin at the knees got rid of a coughlin So now you're stuck with Odell give him a big contract still don't know how to say to him They should have found a way to take a player who was that talented and that beloved by his teammates Here's the part I can't understand You're incredible on the field and your teammates love you Anything else is fixable. That's your job. You run an organization You have an incredible Hall of Fame caliber talent who is loved by his teammates even him and Eli as terrible as what he said what in the interview with Justine Anderson as bad as he was about Eli. They still never had any friction We never heard anything that him and Eli Eli's they the one quarterback in the league Give me somebody never had friction with exactly possible. So you luck out because have friction you need to actually Have something tangible if his quarterback and nothing there not 90% of other quarterbacks in the league once that quote had happened the relationship would have been sever Oh, yeah, that's not how you lie opera look look at look at big Ben and a NAB and AB exactly So it happens all the time Odell happened to luck out that he had Eli Manning to me Everyone could point fingers at Odell if they want and he was not perfect I understand that but for how good he was and how respected he was in the locker room How loved he was by kids how much he was supposedly such a charity guy who made kids day all the time This is something that's what everyone says everyone says that that's what I've heard Do you remember the story about how he blew off the camp showed up late to another one? I heard that he blew off a dinner There was also there was also an event for kids. It might have been sponsored by Duncan Donuts He was too busy partying somewhere showed up late but barely put any effort into it Again, they're gonna you're gonna hear more about that story than the other things that players would tell us about how he was Constantly talking to kids like that's the guy that he was all right I'll counter what you just said because you're not entirely wrong with what you're saying because if I'm running a franchise And I've got this guy and I drafted him you figure in and I'm figuring it out It's right and that's my argument about Christos Porzingis And I think those two are similar in that not in talent But similar in the fact that they were young stars that became divas quickly Yes, and then it then became out of control because of the because of how much people love them and their teams weren't Chris taps probably being worse because he's got the brother as his agent Yeah, yeah, but still the point is is that you still find a way to figure it out You still find a way to get back control and find out what is it? That's the problem and how do we fix this and Odell's issue is once you saw what happened with Tom Coughlin You realize that once they'd made that choice and it was really tish behind this whole thing Mara was never comfortable with any of this stuff Tish tish is more of the guy who's you know more I'd rather be friends with the players and having fun and all that stuff, but I Can't imagine you can ever turn back now once a guy like Tom Coughlin an accomplished person like him is Pushed out and that means he wins that means Odell won the power struggle That's what was going on there whether they want to discuss it whether they want to admit it or not There was a power struggle Odell wanted the players recognized it and the next guy you hired Was what a pushover? Yep? The next guy you hired no one lay duck He showed up in a suit too big but a dopey haircut like in players You could say what does it matter? He looks like ask any athlete it does matter if you ever been a locker room It's one of the first things they do if you walk in and you have a funny look about you They're all crushing you It's just the it's just the culture and you have to if you're running a franchise Understand this is just what happens. So if you're gonna be that goofy looking guy You better have a hell of a personality so where the players say it looks goofy, but I love this dude And that's sort of like a Rex Ryan where Rex comes in and he's just you know He has his weird look about but they know but I love him Bill Parcell's also when you looked at him You're like Jesus, but he's got such a great personality Worst dresser in the NFL Bill Belichick. Yeah, he can get away with that exactly so Understand that you could not that especially the day one and they already knew him for a year think about that So they gave him the job and he was a total pushover and once that happens That's it That's it the students now running the classroom and the substitute teacher has no chance now you bring in a new regime Especially got a ghetto one doesn't take crap from anybody And you bring him in and then Sherma is trying to get back control of the team And you realize for us to regain the culture We've got to remove two very strong personalities in that locker room that we are never getting on our side And that's why they did what they did the second one being landed. Yes, you don't think they could get landed on their side I don't believe so. No, I think they feel I almost feel like why else would they have moved him? They didn't want to pay him like why else would they have moved him? He was another strong personality He was a good dude. So what is the other? What is the reason Odell? I can explain. I can't explain Landon Collins So the only thing come up with is it another guy because he did emerge towards the end of the season before he was let go as A stronger voice who had a lot to say any bit of strong voice before Yeah, besides things before right and I kind of feel like they felt like we've got a we've got a regain Control of our organization and that's why they went that direction. So for Odell It's easy for us to look at it from our perspective and say you should have figured out make it work But they probably felt like we've got to start fresh here And the one way to do it is to remove the power struggle and that's what they did But he now Odell can't understand that he doesn't know because his whole career He's been told how great he is. He's never been wrong about anything And so for the first time he was told you know what you did some things that you might think are great because your teammates Love you but your teammates don't love you because they're inspired by your leadership They love you because you were fun to be around That's why they loved him he was a lot of fun to be around It was a party all the time, but he was a personality, but he was not a guy you would run through a wall for