 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Another doubleheader for Monday night football for this weekend We got the bucks taken on the Eagles and the Bengals hosting the Los Angeles Rams and plenty to talk about in both those games We're gonna dissect each game breakdown traditional markets player props and much more by talking to Ryan Williams This is this is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and on Fandall research My name is Jim Saunas. I am a managing editor of digital media for a Fandall research joined here as I am each Monday by Ryan Williams check them out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan another doubleheader coming up for tonight. How you doing today? Oh, I'm doing just fine Jim. Yeah, we get doubleheader of action of football trying to See see if these games are going to live up to expectation as we had seen some heavy favorites Lose on Sunday. Yeah, which is not great for the survivor pools But uh, you know, that's just how the cookie crumble sometimes week three was was so exciting so much fun I loved it just from the standpoint of you know, things coming to fruition when people think they know all the answers You know us included as well to Jim I don't I don't remove us from that bucket at all But that that's what makes it fun is when you start to see the season play out and we talked about it it's only two weeks we still have a lot of Runway and When you see things like the Cowboys losing to the Cardinals the Ravens losing to Menchew magic And and other things that were just absolutely wild for a Sunday slate. It makes it fun Yeah, I made my first mistake of the year Ryan because my model did show value on the Cardinals money line and I took only the spread did not take the money line as well and Usually what I'll do is all like, you know ladder it where it's like, okay If they cover I profit then if they win, it's it's even bigger, you know bigger output I just went straight spread. I was like 12 and a half's a lot at home I guess whatever I'll do is but I feel really gross about it like I felt guilty betting that and I didn't do it so I deserve to be put in time out for a solid five minutes Five minutes I think is appropriate But um, yeah first mistake officially made where I missed out on what could have been a nice They were plus 520 on Tuesday They kind of shit they think they got to like plus 570 one point the Cowboys are minus 800 at some point during the week So missed opportunity to be sure Yeah, those are always fun things to have actions Action on especially when you're already, you know kind of going one way against the spread Even if you feel like it's it's not going to come to fruition just to take that shot When the books are giving you, you know higher than five to one, you know on something happen Especially with the Cardinals being at home Yeah And then we got the Trayvon digs news and not say that Trayvon digs is worth 13 points by any means But you know this Cardinals team had been showing us that they had at least been playing with life Yeah, and you know if things break their way as they were able to do on Sunday, you know a lot can happen with that So, yeah, that's that's tough The Cowboys are looking looking in them there cells in the mirror this week to try and write the ship for week four Yeah, and They were getting hype is being the best team in football. 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Hope is here visit gambling helpline MA org or call you 100 327 5050 for 24 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1 877 8 open Y or text open Y in New York Let's dig in now to the first game of the double header for tonight Which is the Eagles at the Buccaneers right now Eagles are for that point favorites total is 45 for this game Now this spread is tightened by a point since we were talking about things back on Tuesday Ryan So let's start off with the traditional markets. What's your read on Eagles at Bucks there? Yeah So the traditional market, you know where the spread is coming in Let's just talk about that for first off with the Eagles four and a half point favorites here I get it to Revelling to Tampa and you know talk about a team that's that's been hyped and I was here last week Jim talking about the you know this Tampa Bay team Tennessee North might be the worst division in football Not even sugarcoating that like not even being facetious like they just might be the worst division in football And that's where the Tampa Bay's two wins come against and so you're looking at a Jalen Hurts let offense They're getting James Bradbury back on defense and they could really get exposed here on you know A somewhat island game here at Monday night football. I love getting the Eagles here at four and a half I think that feels appropriate the 230 is just kind of a little hefty as we talked about Just with the way things can go but even when you're looking at the minus 230 I mean like Jalen Hurts in his last 22 games is 21 One straight up as a winner, you know, and you know covering is while he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league And you can tell by you know the record and how they've been doing since the 2022 season campaign where he should have won MVP I digress Jim Setting up for the Eagles to kind of take care of business here It is kind of interesting on the other side if you feel like Rashad can't get going To get that over at 45 just because we know Baker may feel like This team's struggling like there's only one option and that's him going into DGF mode and throwing it to his guys Evans and Chris Godwin there who got in the bulk of work in the offense from a receiving standpoint So I would be interested in the over here from that total as we've seen over is kind of trend up since Since the week one under onslaught, but really for me in the traditional market. It's looking at Philly You know laying those four and a half points there and feeling good about it Yeah, if I had if I look back to my preseason numbers, I would have had this game as Philadelphia by six point two points so Eagles above this number, but I actually kind of like the buck still I got them at five and a half earlier on this week I do still show value on plus four and a half I have right now the Eagles by two point nine, which might seem small, but a lot of it is because Although the bulk of the model still relies on a prior and that prior is what had the Eagles fair by six point two in this game There is data from the first two weeks and the first two weeks Obviously, like you said are tainted by the fact that they faced a very bad Vikings defense and possibly sorry The worst defense in football with the Chicago Bears So that's that's a rough situation and obviously you want to account for that but like Seeing Baker may feel be efficient when he has Mike Evans and Chris Godwin to me is not entirely surprising So I'm going to buy into it in the model at least factors it in a little bit It's not a huge portion of it just yet, but it does show value in the box as a result now Can we expect Baker may feel to maintain efficiency over a full season? We should probably assume no I think I think that'd be the the fair assumption, but It's not as if this comes totally out of nowhere Like he has been efficient at some point his career now and additionally you're a move from that shoulder injury So I understand your side of a Ryan where it's like, you know, it's only it's only four and a half stuff like that But I think I might be Might be buying a tiny tiny tiny bit in the Baker magic. Do I expect them to win tonight? No Do I saw the Eagles favored? Yes, but I I'm at least color me intrigued Ryan about the Baker may feel experience in Tampa Bay. Oh for Further that Jim. I mean this one that would did it for for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers You know as we're looking to separate themselves in their own division there in the NFC South So, yeah, I can't I can't blame you for wanting to get some action there on Baker And these you know these these other type of games maybe that we see Baker come out in and get a little magic of his own Going so but yeah, I just love the Eagles here I love that the defense is getting a little bit more healthy and love to be able to take advantage of that So let's talk about the Bucs player props here starting on that side He mentioned Rashad white pretty good output last week for him And we've all seen Mike Evans and Chris Godwin play pretty well so far So when you look at the Bucs props Ryan where you see in value there at Fandall sportsbook Yeah, well if I think you know the Eagles are gonna win this game and in somewhat in handily fashion I got a look at the receiving props for some of these guys and with James Bradbury coming back I am interested in Chris Godwin Who you know is kind of building that report there is over at 54 and a half Coming it at minus 113 is interesting the Mike Evans prop is just interesting too Just because that feels so low for Mike Evans at 56 and a half You know, he's easily even if he's having a rough day, you know He can get a deep shot of 25 or plus from from Baker and kind of make make some headway on that He's actually gone over this number in both games this season thus far with those those are the two things That I'm leaning on I think From, you know another interesting point as we talk about island games if we go to any time touchdowns or props Not just to score a time to where he comes in at plus 450 But you know, I love taking tight ends at scoring first touchdowns and Kate Otten is 25 to 1 To score that first touchdown. So if this secondary is containing those receivers, you know, Kate Might be able to get loose if if the bucks are able to kind of win this coin toss and get off to a hot start It's just one of those you kind of look at the rest of the, you know, the groupings there who are down there You know Rashad penny the Andre Swift kind of has a string on that backfield. We're looking at the Philadelphia defense We're looking at Baker, you know rarely ever takes the ball for himself unless maybe they end up at the one But even then you're only getting, you know, 500 more on Baker Kate Otten is an interesting play there Yeah, Otten is on the field constantly, which is what you want for this kind of bets the buccaneers I think at least our live dogs. So the fact that they are underdogs this game might not matter as much for an air freight The first touchdown. So I think that's pretty enticing. I also do think the plus 450 for Odden is not that bad, honestly I think that's a pretty good number two so some potential value there like Sean Tucker is a very good running back But he's clearly the number two behind Rashad white and Sean Tucker's anytime touchdown odds are shorter or than Kate Otten And again, that's a he's a running back. So that makes sense But like, you know, kind of giving you context to where Kate Otten is in I think that makes a lot of sense Now, what about the Eagles side of things Ryan? We saw Deandre Swift go nuts last week, but that was that Kenneth gain. Well gain Well Likely back for this week. So what's your read on the Eagles side of things here? Yeah, I think for the Eagles side it is kind of kind of tough Even with a concentrated offense is because you know, you kind of loved what you saw from Deandre stuff getting going But this Tampa Bay defense, albeit It's probably not the same of you know, two years ago or years past But they still you know are not the easiest to run on and the numbers are still showing that So you're looking at the wide receivers who are both explosive, you know, and it's just the matter of like How do how do these guys get going and who who's going to be that player that kind of takes it takes it away And you know, I kind of lean AJ Brown just because we have not seen the AJ Brown game As we would think of it as of yet, you know 67 and a half is where he comes in for his oval over total I do really like that but when we're looking at the player longest reception as well too I think there's some interesting merit in Devonta Smith like Devonta Smith always just seems to be able to be that guy to Go deep when you're thinking about, you know, 25 yards or more down the field It's really where we're thinking about that deep shot and he's only coming in at 23 and a half So can you get behind this defense and take a long reception one? Maybe he even houses it It is an interesting number for me I think the the lines on these guys feel a little bit appropriate But again, if we're hitting the over in this game at 45 You got to think one of these receivers is carrying that boat for them So I do like getting action on them and then when we look at, you know, the anytime touchdown props I got to go to Dallas Goddard. Like I said, I you know, I definitely like always targeting The the tight ends on somewhat island games and he's plus 230 You know, he's even behind Kenneth game. Well this weekend He got the squeaky wool narrative last week of getting more involved after after the week one fiasco So if I have to look at anything right there, I think that's interesting Another one, Jim, which I'm gonna mention before we get to the next game I should have mentioned this I guess with the Buccaneers But Baker Mayfield has not turned the ball over I believe the Buccaneers are the sole team if I'm not mistaken to not have a turnover his interception prop Which you know, the the books definitely caught on right? It's minus 130 Which is probably where you would think even if he had a turnover already is where the number is coming in at But without it yet, you know, maybe maybe this happens here at home for Baker against this that the Philadelphia defense also five-to-one to score a touchdown I know we kind of talked about that in DFS worlds and how you can get some action But I did think that was an interesting point Yeah Baker as you mentioned minus 130 to throw a pick in this game And I think that does correlate well with your overall thought of okay If we think the Eagles cover that means it's hero ball Baker towards the end and Baker to his credit I would say is willing to chuck it in those situations. He doesn't care about the stats too much He's willing to heave it up there see what happens try to make up that gap in a hurry So it does fit well So if you're trying to if the listeners are people who want to play a same-game parlay again Not typically my style But if you want to do that those are bets that would correlate well mayfield throw a pick Eagles to cover stuff like that So if you're playing same-game parlays make sure you keep in mind the way your bets across the game interact Because you do want to make sure they mesh well from one bet to the next Let's talk about the second game for tonight Ryan And that is the Rams at the Bengals right now The Bengals are one of that point favorites total is 43 and a half and it seems like the entire week They've been playing this thing as if it's half Joe Burrow half Jake Browning I think with the move to one and a half that to me signals the odds that burrow suits up are pretty minimal And so if I plug this in with Browning starting, I'm pretty close to market on these two numbers So I think that that's kind of my assumption is that they assume it'll be Browning instead of burrow for tonight So what's your read on the markets with where things stand right now? We are recording here at 8 27 a.m. Eastern Yeah, where the number is coming in Coming in at gym you hit it right on the head One and a half is not where we think Joe burrow is going to be at and they the books have to be safe In case he does somehow get ruled in but you know, we see him right in on the cart with the owner looking dejected We hear from jamar chase that he wants his quarterback to be healthy down the line and you know, they kind of find themselves in an interesting spot because Jake Browning, you know for all intents and purposes, I believe this guy only has one career past attempt In the nfl and so, you know going against this rams d which I I definitely was one of the ones that talks about it And listen, I got a future on the rams winning that nfc us division and rubber. I told you I regretted that It's not looking too bad. And though the name on the defense is really iron donald It's still the only guy that I know but this defense has been playing aggressive and they've definitely been playing up to stuff This is going to be travel tough for them traveling West coast to east coast here and we know this since netty bingles d is going to be ready For matthew stafford and co but this one just screams stay away As it as it is right now. I mean somehow if you get the one and a half bingles if you're feeling like Man, they could just hold pad and get mix and going and not really We trust in the rams and playing so be it But I just feel like, you know with everything that's shaping up. This feels like he's not going to play And in that instance, I have to lean under here of the 43 and a half total right under that 44 You know Paki number there, but it just streams under value and I don't see the rams coming out here and You know kind of trying to both race them those if they have that lead I imagine they'll stay pat and kind of lean on the run game to kind of take it home for I very much agree. I have if I put burrow is out for this game I had the total at 40.85 So still good value on the under despite the fact it has moved down I the bingles by 0.62 with browning in there Basically a toss up. I feel like that might be a bit light as far as the rams side of things like Like if I think about matthew stafford playing like he has the first two weeks taking on jake browning I know jake browning has jamar chasty higgins You know It's still jake browning. So I feel like I should be higher on the rams here And I know my model does like them. I bet the rams each the first two weeks. I have not done so yet Probably will not get there honestly But the total under 43 and a half minus 110. I think that is a very fine way to go here now Obviously with the burrow ambiguity You might just want to say which would be fair I'm I'm good. I'm holding off on on bangles props But when you look at those ryan anything stand out to you right now Yeah, I mean it it becomes tough it becomes tough when you don't have a you and you have this back of quarterback Who you don't know that you can trust and but still prolific weapons On the other side where you're like man if he could just you know lead on these guys and We don't we don't have any receiving props as they currently Exist for the bangles probably for that reason I would be interested to see what jamar chase his numbers were especially his receptions prop Because I feel like you know the back of quarterback. You got to You know some of these guys. I'm not sure we can you know rely on it or smith or anybody like that You're usually ones but we know that tea heggins and chase and and smith and void are going to be the the four culprits there Forward even work. So if we look at the touchdown scoring props here Jamar chase we're getting plus 115 and jamar chase is not scored a touchdown yet this season jim This is in front of his home crowd If you're going to put a bet on anybody here outside of joe mixon He's he's the one where I could just see him If we're talking about alpha receivers and trying to carry the team and just what let me put the team on my back And do everything then you know, let's see if jake browning can can get this guy the ball and you know It's plus 115 you would like it just a tad bit higher there I think people might look at tea higgins and say oh It's a little bit a little bit better better value for me to just go on tea higgins But I just feel like jamar chase is really the guy that they have to unlock here in this game Yeah, as you mentioned no receiving props yet up yet for the bangles the rushing props mixon is at 58 and a half rushing plus receiving mixon is Actually not posted right now for that one either in part because they don't know what the passing output will be From jake browning now we've got the ram side where ryan no questions about where the ball will go there It's tabooka nikua. It's a kairan williams other guys at least in the mix like tutu at well as well But any value for you on the rams or as the market properly now priced in the absurd roles that nikua and williams have It's it's properly priced in You know, I mean kairan You know plus money on him to score a touchdown like usually you would kind of see You know backs with the workload that that he's kind of getting in mixon's role I get it the Cincinnati defense, you know I had Pretty stout and does it's pretty, you know They hold form when they when teams get into the red zone as well too But kairan has been able to make a way I believe you have like five touchdowns on the season and the touchdown he's getting you serve red zone usage. Yeah This whole Like rani rivers or zack evans behind him to be able to to get things going So that's funny guys. I was like zack evans. Is that right? Chris evans is on the other side. Yes, that's correct Okay, so two evans in backfield tonight But uh, but yeah, so I think these are the two guys that we have to look at now when we look at receiver props here From puke at 66 and a half that feels Reasonable and right and I mean how do we not just slam on that number with the production that he's been doing But one of the interesting Uh Numbers that I have found and I think I'm gonna have to go to let me pull it up here. Jim. I apologize if we look at game specials Uh I did see there is a number that exists out there and I think it's in game specials where puke to get Uh 50 receiving yards or more in each half is that plus 700? I want to say Uh, we if we scroll up a little bit there. Jim. I definitely will find exactly where the market is 40 receiving yards 40 receiving yards plus 40 receiving yards in each half plus 700 He's done that in each game and obviously, you know, you think about it Like he has to get close to that number to be able to put up 100 yards in both games receiving But this is this is an area here where I mean Matthew Stafford is just he's just known for peppering the guys Yeah, who are his guy and right now that is puka playing into that cooper cup role We saw the same thing when he was at detroit and you know able to revive Marvin Jones career and we know what he did with calvin johnson and like, you know I want to say that puka is a hull of fame margie for yet, but he is the Guinness office Everything is pretty much running to who's not kairan williams. So, uh, that's an interesting one there where you can You know, it's advantage of you know, kind of If you take his over number at 66 and a half, you know, you're getting minus one 18 or 18 whatever that number is if he hits on that and steven guards come in both of these halves Like we expect you're getting seven to one odds on that and I Yeah, like that's a great way to kind of take advantage of of a number there If not that we might feel good enough enough to bet on but not really to returning dividends there But this one is a chance to to reap home Again, that's out of the game specials tab and your fan dual sports book app If you scroll down to seven to one puka nakua 40 plus receiving yards in each half and the reason I think that's kind of interesting ryan is because We talked last week about I believe it was george pickens where he's like this volatile guy Where he's going to pick up his his yardage and chunks But nakua is like a consistent target earner who keeps getting reception after reception after reception which makes him more steady from one half to the next so I feel like this number actually fits his game pretty well too Where he just gets that consistent workload time after time after time And I think that actually is pretty enticing here So kind of keeping in mind the archetype of the player when deciding what the best market to better player is now even though nakua is like a Steady guy that does not mean upside markets are out of play for him It just means we have to find different routes upside markets And I think that the seven to one for 40 plus receiving yards in each half is a pretty enticing Way to do so any other props or bets you like ryan across either of these two monday night games no If we do get jake brown We did jump on this before but I will be interested in seeing if this front seven can can get to a guy like jake browning there We know that uh some type of woes and why joe burrows on the injury report It is that uh defenses have been able to get after him in some way shape or form fashion And so looking at you know the rams to get some sacks Against jake browning here. It would be something that i'm looking at similar in the game Especially for the rams to get a five plus sacks is plus 600 right right before that puka nakua Plus 700 bet there so that was another one that I thought was just interesting to get in on that Even even a burl Somehow decides to end up playing like we know he's not fully healthy And you know just to be able to take advantage of that. It's an interesting one Yeah, five plus sacks six to one at vandal sportsbook for the rams in this game That's all we got here for this monday night double header Ryan want to thank you as always for joining us here today breakdown both of these games You'll be back with us once again tomorrow for our tuesday show our tuesday show this year Talking some futures talking stock up stock down then i'll go through my thoughts on the opening lines for week number four Ryan i appreciate you as always good luck tonight. Have fun. We'll talk to you once again tomorrow morning Sounds good jim. Thanks so much. Good luck everybody You can find ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w i am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s Do not forget to subscribe to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast or find us on the fandal youtube page Or fan dual tv plus enjoy both of the games tonight. Good luck to you We'll talk to you once again tomorrow to set the table for week number four This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network