 taste pleasure taste pleasure taste all right guys welcome back to the channel if you're new my name is Bobby guys today we're going to react to cosmic skeptic who runs an atheist and now vegan apparently youtube channel cosmic skeptic has been a vegan for maybe two years or so but he is already a vegan preacher yes that happens quickly in the vegan community you get elevated to celebrity status pretty pretty fast now he is at the vegan camp out 2021 and he's gonna hold a speech let's check it out i have been um i've been doing this now for just over two years having dish out products in april 2019 but compared to some of the other yeah as i just said in the intro he's been vegan for roughly two years and is already a vegan preacher it's so crazy to see most of the time vegans that are huge within the vegan community have been vegan for one two three maybe four years because that is the main threshold after that everybody degenerates disintegrates and stops veganism this is nothing new i can't wait to see him in a couple of years the veterans of this festival that still makes me relatively new to animal rights advocacy and i should say how thankful i am for the vegan community for so hospitably embracing this pretentious atheist youtuber into its into its fold it's it's what most wonderful to see yeah it's absolutely heartwarming and how they're embracing you and just wait when you turn x vegan they will hate you they will start making youtube videos about you how you did it wrong um oh man poor guy for a long time before i made anything uh of any kind of content about animal rights i was almost exclusively what you'd call an atheist youtuber i was making content discussing uh faith debating the religious and um i have been asked once or twice what i thought about veganism it's a topic that comes up every now and again but it was easy enough to ignore but i i kind of understood that it was wrong i saw people thought eating meat was wrong but i thought it was funny to me as well because it was easy to ignore when we're talking about veganism but why isn't it easy to ignore when we are talking about god atheists will always talk about the flying spaghetti monster in the sky but why don't you debate the flying spaghetti monster in the sky you're always debating god because internally you do know that there is a god atheists are constantly in denial and they have to debate they have to discuss in order to justify their own worldview it is very similar to the lgbtqa whatever community they know internally that something is wrong so instead of facing their own demons they will try to change the exterior it is always the same if we only find enough rights groups enough people that do agree with me then i must be right it is a popularity contest this what you see in this modern day and age all under the premise of so-called democracy we all vote and we determine what is right and what is wrong this is the society that we live in this is why atheists seek to find other atheists that will tell them you are right there is no god yes and now it is right as well just eat the plants it is correct it is ethically correct it is moral but there are no universal morals it's wrong in the way that lying is wrong or something like yeah sure it's not a great thing to do why is lying wrong but everybody does it why it's not that bad and at any rate i know i can get away with doing it for a long time without anybody giving me any backlash so it was kind of like when i walk past yeah i rest my case yet again you can do it because nobody else is giving you any backlash is this how we establish what is right and wrong just because others give us backlash that is insane look at all the different societies with all the different cultures with all the different practices who determines what is right and wrong if we see female circumcisions in some african village how do we determine that that is wrong even though they see it as right where does right and wrong come from books about giving to charity and i thought look i i don't need to buy this book right i i understand i understand what the problem is i don't need to be convinced that giving charity is good it was the same thing with animal rights i get the point but then i decided to actually get down to it and i read animal liberation by Peter Singer and i suddenly realized just how catastrophically wrong i'd be like so many others i've been scammed into thinking that the animals i were eating had a relatively good life before their demise and okay but wait a second so you read a book and now you know that all the animals are treated badly how how exactly if you would have said i went to countless farms to countless animal industries even and i saw it firsthand over and over and over again i reported it i saw it with my own eyes then you would have a case but you didn't do that you didn't go out into the real world you simply watched a couple of vegan documentaries and read a book how do you know i was actually doing them a favor by making sure they stay in existence by making sure i was continuing to buy them um it's it's an interesting point actually there's this argument that uh that by if we if everyone went vegan overnight you know uh that the animals would go extinct and that we're doing them a favor by bringing them into existence especially given that i'm simultaneously met with the fear that if everybody goes vegan overnight what are we going to do with all the animals they're going to overrun us it's like a simultaneous fear that the animals that the cows are going to overrun us and we won't know what to do with them but at the same time a fear that they're going to go extinct it's like people can't make up their minds on this but interestingly there is a rebuttal to this particular point that comes from a rather unlikely source i think of robert nosik who in anarchy state in utopia i think um it's not often stressed a lot of people don't seem to know uh talked about briefly animal rights or at least the eating of animals and i think in the true libertarian spirit that any true libertarian should ascribe to uh he seems sympathetic to the idea that we shouldn't be eating animals and when he considered this idea that by eating animals we might actually be doing them a favor by making them stay into existence the idea of animal rights is absolutely laughable and ridiculous let's start with animals not being able to participate in society whatsoever they have no speech they cannot vote they cannot buy land they cannot participate at all they cannot work the only reason why we keep animals is to nourish people or as pets they're not part of society and please don't start with the so-called vegan argument name the trait it doesn't make sense either because if we would have a society out of humans that could not vote could not speak could not work then we wouldn't have a society to begin with this is where the discussion starts and ends animals are not part of the society therefore they do not deserve any rights whatsoever and where do you start and where do you stop because if you go into nature into the wild animals still will be eating animals on a monstrous scale how many insects die in nature every single day how many fish get eaten by one whale alone it doesn't add up you can't start giving those animals any rights because they are not part of society either well he asks that if our taste buds changed and we no longer found it enjoyable to eat animals should those people who are concerned who make this argument that we're doing them a favor even though they don't like the way it tastes anymore just continue to breathe them into existence and eat them yeah absolute mental illness you don't ask the question why it tastes good you grew up in a system that is already heavily planned based everybody grows up on sludge you're eating corn flakes you're eating sandwiches in england you're eating beans whatnot for breakfast it is very very planned based already and the meat that you eat is some processed gunk most people unfortunately haven't even experienced a proper human diet it's quite sad but this is the way that we live now if you look at meat in its raw state let's talk about sashimi salmon sashimi why does it taste good has it been cooked are there any spices on it some sort of fancy recipe no salmon just tastes great if you bite into a salmon raw even living it tastes amazing why is that so because it is our species specific diet what does that mean it means it is nutritionally adequate for your biology that's what it means this is why vegans try to mimic animal foods over and over again they're starving for animal flesh because yet again it is nutritionally adequate this is what is tasty to you do you understand if you bite into grass it tastes disgusting it's not food on the other hand if you look at the cow the cow thoroughly enjoys eating grass why because it is perfectly suited for the physiology for the biology of that cow this is what taste truly is this is why fat tastes really really good this is why protein satiates us like nothing else try going on a low protein diet and you're gonna be constantly hungry it is because protein and fats nourish us this is what we need we need the cholesterol we need the carnitin et cetera et cetera this is taste but you grow up in a society where you eat cookies and then you think it is all about taste pleasure aside from that taste pleasure is nothing bad yet again you're here on this world to enjoy yourself a little bit if you eat adequately it will taste good wow mind blowing anyway out of a virtuous behavior it's obviously ridiculous and i have to say that i'm quite embarrassed that i spent so long of my life contributing to this kind of stuff without really giving it a profit the only reason why you're still here is because you've been eating animal foods man keep on going like this you're gonna starve and you're gonna be an ex vegan like anybody else how about your idols sam harris right he's such a smart atheist just like yourself he went vegan why is he not vegan anymore is he not smart enough is he not philosophically deep enough can't he reflect on the animal suffering is he not empathetic enough why is that simple because you listen to his body and you will too at some point the second thought i'm often asked if i judge people who continue to purchase animal products and i have to say that there's only one person i can legitimately judge in that regard and it's my former self oh my life contributing to this wow your personal jesus i consider what i'm doing now this kind of stuff as a way of making up for it as a way of it is hilarious to see how religious atheists or vegans truly are you can clearly see that this man is seeking some sort of validation some sort of value some sort of moral high ground in his life this is why he holds the speech here like in an alcoholic anonymous group i ate flesh but now i don't anymore as a way of trying to find a way to forgive myself because god knows that if the animals that i was responsible for torturing killing and abusing were given the opportunity they sure as hell wouldn't forgive me so that's why i'm here first and foremost animals don't have a concept of forgiveness whatsoever animals are in the moment that is their natural state they're just here their pure awareness you on the other hand can reflect because you are a human you're not an animal contrary to popular vegan and atheist belief but what did you just say there why do you use those terms god only knows right god only knows how come if you don't believe in god that you're still using those phrases as i said why don't you say science only knows it is ridiculous it is embedded in you as it is in every human being you do understand if there is a creation that is a creator but the point of the story is this is of course a false religion yet again where you have to practice repentance to the animals the animals become your god they become your idols and now you have to let go of the shame today because one glance a single glance at the cages at the gas chambers rape rats at the macerators one glance at all of this immediately shattered any illusions that i was harboring about animal welfare one glance where do you see that do you visit farms yet again and on top of that as always super emotional speech and that's all they got i immediately realized that this is an issue that demands attention and that's why despite only ever having wanted to just talk about philosophy of religion on youtube i now stand before you today as an animal but why do you want to talk about philosophy in religion if you're not religious if you don't believe in god let's take an example i personally practice jitsu and i go to the gym i think that cricket is a pretty dumb sport but i'm not going to sit here and make a career out of talking about cricket and convincing people that cricket is not a real sport it is crazy of course you have an obsession with god it's only natural a line of work that i never ever thought that i would be getting into but now that i can't imagine my life without muslim destiny i began life on youtube as a person who was discussing the philosophy of religion uh debating debating the religious and i was sometimes dealing with people who would blindly follow their faith into some of the most evil and irrational of doctrines and behaviors i was no stranger to irrationality to people living in denial to faith-based thinking but i have to say ladies and gentlemen that despite my years of arguing with religious okay let me cut you off right there but now you are absolutely rational right your motivation is not emotional whatsoever right it's not irrational at all it's absolutely irrational not to eat your species specific diet it's absolutely rational is super rational to eat something that no human being has ever eaten especially as an atheist who believes in evolution you must know on some level that we are biologically perfectly suited to eat meat and biologically not adapted to eat plants so where is the rationale it is of course ridiculous it is a religion it is super emotional and has nothing to do with rationalities wow dogmatic christian nationalist and would be theocrats i have genuinely never witnessed more dogma more ignorance more evil evil faith-based thinking and indeed i might even say more religiosity than i've ever seen wow uh when i started about when i started talking about animal rights i mean the christian right wing doesn't even come close in terms of the kind of dogma and ignorance that we're dealing talking about projection you stand there like a total evangelical preaching to the choir you're not capable of receiving any type of critique yourself if you would show you the science that vegans are always searching for if you would show you the digestive tract of humans in comparison to hindgut fermenters such as cows you would clearly see that our anatomy is only suited for animal foods and very very minuscule amounts of plants this is just the reality of things you of course in denial you're brainwashed in many ways it is not your own fault of course you simply do not know you're talking about blind faith but how did you come to your conclusion do you really believe it was your free will do you really believe you made a rational logical decision in malnourishing yourself it doesn't add up at all you have no nutritional background so how can you how can you make a decision about diet if you have no nutritional background whatsoever zero you of course will base it on the ethics but well nutrition is a huge part of it right because you still have to feed yourself it is a mental illness man and the face-based thinking the following blindly just doing what you think is right because you're just essentially a slave to your traditions and you are a slave to the system do you understand that there was absolutely no plant-based civilization ever in human history well now you could say back in the day we raped each other we did many many evil things even though you didn't make an argument where evil comes from as an atheist but well let's put that aside you do have to understand that there are no supplements that don't work anyways found in the wild in nature you do understand that we cannot just change our biology right away i know we live in a time where men want to become women and women want to become men but we're still not at the point where they are changing their chromosomes or anything like that they're simply cutting off the genitals and then they're pretending to be the other sex of course it doesn't work that way and you cannot change the fact that you are a human being and that you have a human specific diet it is what it is why don't you ask those questions what's up with all those people in nature what's up with all those people in the past was it always society always society society was always the detrimental factor for eating meat if you're truly interested i do recommend a book by western air price it is a man who traveled the world and visited many indigenous tribes and came to the conclusion that meat is and always will be an essential part to human health he actually was a dentist and was interested in vegetarianism and this is why he started visiting those tribes in order to find an argument for vegetarianism of course he couldn't find one i'm honest um the reactions that i was receiving these kinds of reactions only made me want to talk about it more a lot of people weren't very happy with this shift when i started talking about this i mean first first this kid comes for the creator of the heavens and the earth the alpha and the omega and as if that wasn't bad enough now he wants me to give up eating bacon too well yes i'm afraid to say um because this point isn't just one of philosophical musing this is more a point of duty and in fact the most basic duty and the most self-evident duty that we can possibly have as ethical beings has to avoid inflicting suffering where it can be avoided uh okay where do ethics come from i'm not going to even bother to ask anymore there is no point it comes from society i guess it comes from popular consensus whatever right now in this day and age with the so-called pandemic yes it is an ethical obligation to care about what we eat sure quote attributed to Carl Sagan that is very commonly repeated among the atheist sceptic community is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence it's a favorite it's a potential averted all the time um some people call it hitch in this razor because of how he likes to employ the term i would like to humbly add to this great tradition by suggesting a razor of my own that extraordinary harm and mistreatment requires extraordinary justification very very simple yet again the justification is that it is your species specific diet that if you eat any other way you will be sick you won't live up to your god given or call it nature given call it whatever you will i don't really care potential it is impossible for you to be perfectly healthy on a so-called vegan diet that's it and that justifies everything at least is true to me as Carl Sagan's pithy maxim and yet we're reflecting on a treatment of animals it's not just the case that we don't have extraordinary justification for extraordinary harms we don't even have ordinary justifications even for the most basic mistreatment of animals that we currently partake in and look at the sheep just clapping a while i think not a lot of time is spent reflecting on the fact that in the normal course of human ethical intuition the more innocent the victim the more we think they require and deserve our attention and special moral concern right that seems obvious right it's worse for me to smack a baby than to smack an adult because one is so much more innocent than the other but once you cross the species boundary this intuition seems to be exactly reversed now the more yeah and why is that so more defenseless the more innocent the more domitable the being the more we have we feel we have a right to abuse them but how is it abuse exactly you give them perfect living conditions any animal if it would have any type of rationality which it doesn't would choose the factory farm over the wild every single time it is that simple in nature in the wild many animals get eaten as babies the babies that you just spoke about of course not human babies they're just animals but this happens in nature they get eaten as babies if not they die horrific deaths they get eaten from the ass up that's what happens most of the time they get dragged by the genitals because it is a weak point and then eaten from the butt up this really what is happening horrific deaths or they starve or they get injured or they get infections and they never heal etc etc etc it is a gruesome environment in nature so in many ways the symbiotic relationship between animals and humans is the best thing that ever happened to animals it is what it is and let me remind you right we're talking if we talk about animal ethics that is about I don't need to explain to a room full of vegans that we're talking about torture and abuse but what I will remind you is that in a human context in liberal thinking at least when it comes to torture think about this when you of course he's a liberal as well what else or something like this we don't justify torturing our enemies even when we have a good reason to do it but how do we torture animals honestly it's just a bolt gun to the head and it's over there's no torture at all actually in factory farms they don't even have time to torture animals even if they wanted to there would be some sort of sadist that wants to torture animals all day long they don't have time for that most of the time in the morning they have to kill off 500 sheep or 500 cows or whatever it goes very very quick and yet we do justify torturing the most innocent members of our moral community simply to appease our taste buds our ethical intuitions exactly reverse themselves for no yeah because some people still do have intuition not only so-called ethical intuition but some people still know right from wrong some people still have body awareness they do understand what does what in their own bodies they do understand that if they eat something that doesn't belong there then they will get sick this is why intuitively people crave meat because yet again it is our species specific diet get over it good reason and the worst thing the very worst thing about this very worst is that those who are paying for this don't think they need to give an explanation at all because it's just a burger right it's us it's the vegans who are putting forward the affirmative case who need to do the explaining right and i'm here to tell you right that this is what i think this is a takeaway that i'd like you all to leave with is that if we're but who cares what you think it is your own moral ethical worldview you didn't tell us what you based it on at all we do not know what type of consequences quote unquote we would face if we don't adhere by your worldview so why would we listen to you at all going to make it anywhere as a movement we need to fix this eating animals is not the neutral position if you look into kfc and buy a bargain bucket you are demonstrating that you implicitly accept an ideology that says that you have the ethical warrant to harm an animal for the sake of your taste pleasure now say what you like about that kind of belief but i don't want to repeat myself but on the other hand he is very repetitive taste pleasure taste pleasure taste pleasure it is not taste pleasure it is a nutritional need do you understand just because some vegans brainwashed you online and told you you do not need animal foods in order to be healthy doesn't make it right the vegans that you associated yourself with have detrimental health effects it is what it is many of them are bleeding out of their butts many of them are depressed have some sort of eating disorder do you understand where that comes from that comes directly from veganism that's the neutral position don't tell me that we're the ones with the ideology for wishing for this to end that's not how it works yes when i refuse to kill another human being i'm not doing something affirmative i'm refraining from doing something and when i refuse to kill another animal i'm not doing something i'm refraining now why is this important well what is the biggest problem that the community currently faces if you ask me it's pr i hate to have to say we have a bit of a bad image right whenever we get a mention in the news or social media got a god forbid tiktok god forbid it's always that we're extreme fanatical we seem frantic this kind of stuff now why is this the case i actually think this is quite understandable when we consider that most people see veganism as the affirmative thing i mean think about what we're talking about we're talking about mutilation we're talking about bulk gunning gas chambers diseases all kinds of horrible stuff right of course the rhetoric is going to sound extreme so you still believe in the zootic origin of the current situation that is great the extremity of our discourse is only reflective of the extremity of what we're doing to animals right and so once it becomes clear that veganism oh man it's a reaction to this rather than its proposition then those people who are pointing their fingers at extremity will realize that actually they are correct to do so they are pointing at extremity but the finger should be pointing in the opposite direction when you realize that this all comes down to the fact that veganism is seen as the thing that's done and eating meat is seen as a thing that's not done that's where i think the basic problem lies vegans also unfairly i think of course have a reputation of trying to force their views on other people i'm sure you'll heard this charge yourself which is not true by the way i don't even know what that would look like where are these roaming gangs of vigilante vegans holding people at gunpoint forcing them to eat a tofu burger it's nonsense it doesn't exist oh well i would disagree with that you have of course radical animal activists so so-called that storm farms and try to rescue animals right you have so-called again animal activists that go out in public naked covered in blood shocking little children so yeah i would say that is forcing your beliefs but i'm glad to hear from these people that they seem to not like when people force their opinions on others i take them a lot more seriously i have to say if they would stop forcing their opinions upon animals right that would make me take them a lot more seriously that is such a mental illness but we are not forcing our opinions on the animals we're simply doing what is absolutely natural what is god given what is human nature what is right that's what we are doing so therefore we are eating animals we don't have a debate with animals and we try to force our beliefs onto them we simply eat them that's it after all wow live and let live only words if you let live right seems obvious to me and what i think they mean when they say this is but that is a human concept yet again man this is so religious it's beyond belief you project your worldview onto animals it is so blatantly obvious live and let live yeah tell that to a tiger tell that to a lion tell that to any animals tell it to a spider live and let live it's absolutely ridiculous it is a human concept that you obviously cannot project onto animals it's crazy how people see this guy here as some sort of philosopher king how does this work that vegans like to force other people into considering the consequences of their actions this is a fairer claim i think this is this is more accurate um but i have to say that what i wish the answer to this that i wish someone had the goal to say to me before i was vegan a few years ago it's quite simple few years i'll accept the charge that we try to force people into unwarranted into into uncomfortable conversations but let me put it plainly if you have the right to force a pig into a gas chamber then you can be damn sure i have the right to force you into a conversation about your justification for doing so total faults equivalent yet again animals are not part of society so what somebody does to an animal is not on the same level of you having a debate with them especially not when it justifies nutritional needs do you understand this of course i don't need to tell any of you that this is just a way to get a cheaper clause for the sake of a good youtube video um this is great the fact that you're all here just means that you're you're already sympathetic to the vegan message at least but i wanted to give you an idea of why i've ended up here today um on this stage today despite once being such a lover of meat that they knew my order in kfc without even having to ask i want to speak about why as an atheist i began to feel a true affinity with the vegan community surprisingly the debate around veganism and the debate about religion actually have some interesting parallels as i briefly mentioned yep it all does let me cut you off right there yet again it all does your whole persona is essentially a copy over copy over copy liberal atheist vegan it is always the same because those things go hand in hand there's always the same origin and the origin is fear that's what it is it is fear it is emotion it is falsehood this is where all of this comes from in this world there's only right and wrong there's only love and fear that's it you're either motivated by love or you're motivated by fear and i'm not talking about your emotional perception of love or i like to pet this animal therefore it is right no it is not everything originates out of love if it is in its natural state therefore yes i know this is hard to grasp for the atheists but even the lion eating the gazelle originates from pure love this is where it comes from because it is true simple as that once you open yourself up to deception it is a steep way down you just stumble across false ideology after the other it is a free fall from here it's not a thing that people do right it's a thing that people don't do and yet despite this historically atheism has been called radical extreme insensitive to important traditions uh inconvenient just something a bunch of kind of young radical but it is not man if you don't believe in god you simply wouldn't talk about it to be an anti-theist is by definition to be against something obviously even being anti-vegan obviously i'm getting a lot of backlash as well because i'm anti something i can't fathom that you don't understand this you must be joking or you really so far gone of course you're against something it is in the word you're an atheist let's get together and blindly follow sound familiar anybody right seems to me that when i well when i first heard that veganism has a reputation for these things too i began to hear the echoes of people who'd been saying this about uh atheists for centuries and and for the whole time been talking out of the uh well talking out of there are children here they're they're digestive system appear to be working in reverse but in that way now vegans have i think unfortunately a reputation for being of quite an evangelical bent themselves and so one of the most boring uh claims that i hear that people try to shut me up about animal rights especially because i used to be an atheist used to talk about atheism atheism i should say um is the claim that by becoming a vegan i've joined a new religion myself i'm sure you'll have noticed too this is this charge that uh veganism is some kind of religion to be plain boss religion is a faith-based pursuit based in wishful thinking and the desire for supernatural consolation it takes absolutely no faith none to recognize the undeniable truth of animal suffering and believe me it doesn't provide any consolation at least for the religious the concept of hell as disgusting and threatening a concept that it is the concept of hell is something that already exists right it's already there god made it it's not their fault that hell exists um and we only experience it after we're dead and even all of this is based on shall we say tentative evidence not true at all have i heard the term hell on earth this is where you are in if you don't follow god's plan if you don't follow the law it's very very simple there's certain laws in the universe i'm going to use that terminology in hope that you will be able to follow because many atheists when you say god they automatically just shut down there's certain rules within this i like to say creation but then again i'm going to face a brain blockage there's certain rules in this world all right and if you don't follow them you will suffer it is that simple so if you jump off a building there is a thing called gravity and then you will suffer the consequences it's just normal if you behave in a certain way you will suffer consequences as well for example if you are the perceived nice guy all the time you will fall short in life it is what it is this is how this dynamic works here the certain rulesets it is just that simple if you put stuff into your body that doesn't belong there then you will get sick therefore you create hell on earth and you are in it you're suffering right now right animal farming conversely creates hell where it didn't exist before and doesn't just use it as a threat for bad but how yet again the environment in nature in the wild is 10 000 times harsher than any farm so how does it create hell yet again it proves that you simply watched a couple of documentaries and now you are highly emotional like a woman you're very very emotional you're triggered and this is why you believe that there is hell in those farms but proactively breeds beings into existence just to experience it for the entirety of their life and where the religious in my view don't have nearly enough evidence to support the claim that their hell actually exists and could do with a lot more of it factory farms have the exact opposite problem of having an overwhelming amount of evidence that their hell on earth does truly exist that they have to try and obfuscate or deny as my friend yeah yet again vegans have overwhelming evidence that their diet is detrimental to their health psychologically physically etc steve woodford once said to me if you were the devil and you were trying to create the worst possible experience for animals just for the sake of suffering itself you actually couldn't do much better than what we're already doing to them on factory farms and suppress this evidence they you actually could go into nature yet again they do right or at least they try their best we're all familiar with the the propaganda that we see flooding our supermarket aisles free range happy cows all of this kind of stuff which is of course but why is free range propaganda it's nothing more than a fantasy you can stick a free range label on chickens that are housed on eggs that come from chickens that are housed in barns at a density of nine chickens per square meter and whose male population that is not true patients have been massacred at birth because they won't produce any eggs but don't worry the sticker seems to suggest that the chickens were perfectly fine with it these companies think we're stupid and they're right yeah they're absolutely right given how willing people are to uncritically accept this kind of stuff and these ridiculous labels without even a hint of skepticism that maybe just just maybe companies that are dedicated to producing as much animal flesh for as cheaply as possible might just allow animal welfare standards to slip by the side so why is it that so many of my atheist colleagues don't bring this up i mean the problem of evil for god's existence is made a thousand times worse when you consider the plight of animals why don't i spend a lot of time thinking why don't more of my atheist colleagues talk about this why is it only us and i think it's because for a lot of them if they were to point to that but it seems after studying theology so long you still didn't grasp the concept at all you don't talk about the aspect of the fallen creation which explains why we find ourselves in such a state why there is death you seem not to know genuinely heavens and say how can you call yourself a good god while allowing so many animals to suffer the heavens could point right back and say well how can you call yourself a moral person and continue to pay for these animals to suffer that's why they're not talking about it this this can really help this can really help our case i also campaign for the secularization of the united kingdom a country which let's face it doesn't care about Jesus in the way that it used to i think it should be secularized secularism all right and this is it the video is long enough as it is and i think i said everything that is needed to be said the guy is repeatedly on a rant about his own emotions about how everything makes him feel but fails to give an argument where this evil comes from and fails to understand that it is proper human nutrition that is at stake here what he wants is a secular government an atheistic government where we essentially in the end give up all our human freedoms under the disguise of human rights abortion will be legal lgbtqp whatever in the end he's talking about a degenerating society that has no moral standard whatsoever other given by the government which is secular and liberal fantastic you created hell on earth all right guys but this is it 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