 All right, all right. Cory doesn't want to be called a Calvinist, so that's okay. He doesn't really tell us a label that he wants to be called. And out of curiosity, just to be clear, would you identify as a five-point Calvinist? Just so I have kind of an idea of where you're coming from. Do you line up with two lips of Calvinism? And if so, four or five? Inconsistent Calvinist, I would say, philosophically speaking. You know who I am? Whether or not Cory is willing to adopt the fact that he is a theistic determinist or not. I'm just saying, even if you don't want to call yourself a theistic determinist, for all practical purposes, I can't see logically how you can deny being a determinist if you hold to the five-point tulip system. It's not really a nice word to call a person, is it? Yes, I hear a lot of Calvinistic interpretations. Yeah, because I could make someone very angry and maybe hurt their feelings. My brother Cory said that he's not a Calvinist, but my brother smells Calvinist-y. No, nobody want to identify as Calvinist. Why not just say you're a Calvinist? Well, I just want to ask you to lay off a little bit. That's Calvinism! Cory, that's Calvinism! I think man can choose, but he won't choose, therefore God chooses. That's literally reformed Calvinism. You're gonna stop calling me that. Every Calvinist I know- That's not my name. Find a mini Calvinist you- Call me one more time. Calvinist. For some reason, and I can explain it different ways, I don't know what the deal is. I don't know why no one believes me. It's almost as though I'll believe everybody else but Cory. Matter of fact, I have seen, I've been on other channels and I have just happened to hear someone say the channel or say my name, especially recently people have made comments about the video, the live stream on last week. And it's Cory Calvinist. It's Cory Calvinist and I'm seeing people in the chat saying no, Cory's not a Calvinist. Oh, Cory's a Calvinist. No, he's not a Calvinist. Cory's a Calvinist. No, he's not a Calvinist. It's like, okay. Now, do I have a problem if I believed all the tenets of Calvinism? Would I have a problem with saying it? Would I have a problem with identifying? Do you know how many subscribers, how many views I would get on this channel if I just said, hey, I'm a Calvinist and I'm promoting Calvinism. I'm talking about Calvinism to the left, Calvinism to the right, Calvinism today, Calvinism tomorrow, Calvinism forever. Almost sound like the race of segregation today. Calvinism today, Calvinism tomorrow. Calvinism, how many people would watch? I'm talking about all the, listen, I wouldn't care if you had 5.4 point, whatever. If you, or the people that hate Calvinism. So, I don't have a problem with Calvinism. I really don't. Now, there's a reason why, obviously, why people assume or would associate me with Calvinism. However, if they just watch, if they just did what they're supposed to do, which is to subscribe, hit the bell notification and binge watch the channel, especially when I'm talking about salvation, you would see and hear the difference. The problem is this, we've got groups on YouTube. We've got cliques. We've got tribes on YouTube. We just do. Whereas people, that's them. This is us. That's those folks over there. And one of the biggest, or a couple of the biggest tribes on YouTube are the Calvinist tribe and the I'm Against Calvinism tribe. And then there are a lot of folks that are in between. Most folks are neither. Most folks are neither. But it's like this bantering back and forth. And it's gotten to the point to where people who are not Calvinists will think that Calvinists are not Christian. And then vice versa. There are Calvinists who think that non-Calvinists are not Christians. It is, that's just how it is. There are some folks that take it to that extreme. Do I hold to some of the tenets of Calvinism? There are some parts of Calvinism that I do believe. I'm gonna talk about two, I'm gonna talk about all of them. It's not gonna be a real exhaustive look into Calvinism. Hopefully you'll see some differences that I have with Calvinism, but I'm cool with Calvinism. I'm my best friends are Calvinists, right? Some of my best friends are non-Calvinists. I'm fine. And I would hope that you would think that I would know at least enough about some aspects of doctrine and theology and my own to know that I know what I am and what I'm not. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you why if you are a Calvinist, if you are an Arminian, if you are a provisionist, it's one of the new groups, if you are a traditionalist, whatever you wanna call it, if you are one of these groups, why you're in sin? Not living in sin, but why that is wrong? Why that is a sin? Why that is not to be done? Some of you all may have heard me talk about this before. We'll cover it again, because we're gonna see the problem that it creates. I've broached just a little bit before I get into that. I wanna go ahead and I also wanna, what did you just say? Now I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure that I am going to have some points and say some things that the Calvinists are gonna love. I'm gonna say some things that the Calvinists are not gonna like. I'm gonna say some things that the Arminians or the provisions will love and dislike. I'm gonna say some things that's probably gonna bother or like just about everybody, which means I might be doing my job. It's not my goal to make you like something or make you dislike anything. It's just my goal is just to give what I see the scriptures are and you can see it now again. This won't be very exhaustive, but I wanna go ahead and jump into it. One of the issues that people bring up, or they say that, or that, well, let me back up. One of the things that I disagree with Calvinism on is the first part of T, the tulip. If you don't know, let's just run through them real quick. Again, this won't be completely exhaustive in the discussion about this, but T stands for total to private T, U for unconditional election, L, limited atonement, I, irresistible grace, and P, perseverance of the saints. Where do I disagree with the five points of Calvinism? Well, the first T, the first one I disagree with is T, the total depravity. Now, Calvinists believe that man is so total, now everyone believes that man is depraved. If you don't, well, I take that back, I take that back. There are some that don't believe that man is totally depraved or depraved at all. But for us who know better, for us who have raised children, we know that we are depraved. We'll just do anything and everything. But now, how depraved are we? The Calvinist view is that, and don't at me Calvinists, if I don't say everything correctly the way you want me to say it, because again, I'm not a Calvinist. But it is that you are so depraved that not only are you not willing to place your faith in Christ, you are unable to place your faith in Christ. There's just nothing, there's no will, no desire for you to want to do so. I disagree. People are gonna say, well, no, that's not that. No, that's what Calvinists believe. I say it's not so much the inability is the unwillingness. And what I mean by unwillingness, I mean permanently, I want you to hear me out. Why does someone just give me a dislike? I'm just telling what I think. Anyway, but I believe that mankind, mankind has the ability to choose God. I believe that mankind will not choose God. Some people I've seen people just cut me off and didn't hear the rest of that. I believe that there is not one person in the history of mankind that has on their own chosen God. Well, wait a minute, Corey, that's sounding awful a lot like Calvinism. Here's a distinction. It's not that man doesn't really have the will, this man does not have the permanent will. Well, why do you say that, Corey? And that's where Calvinism did. Matter of fact, let me just play something from Layton Flowers who says that he's gonna keep saying I'm a Calvinist, which is fine, keep calling me Calvinist, I'm not. The major proof texts that Calvinists often use to prove the T say that they can't come. But what are the Calvinist explaining? Well, they can't come because they don't want to come. Their nature is such that they will always want to reject the things of God. I have been very, very clear about what that means and saying that over and over, it's on record so many times of me explaining that Calvinists are not trying to say that there are people trying to get into heaven that can't get in because God just doesn't want them, he's rejecting them. Or there's other people that God is dragging into heaven, kicking and screaming against their will. I've said that number of times, that's not what the Calvinists are saying. The Calvinists is saying that God changes your will. I'm not saying that. No, what I'm saying is that God, is it's not that he's changing your will, it's the permanency, why do I say that? And by the way, if you believe that Calvinism is biblical or unbiblical, fine. Let's avoid saying that somebody is not saved because they hold that. What makes a person saved? And I've seen that someone's already had their comment to leave, I don't know if they're putting time out or deleted or what have you. But what makes a person save? They place their faith in Christ. You need to be smart enough guys, come on, let's be big boys and big girls and realize that the only issue with Calvinism and Armenian and provisionist and others is not do we have Christ, it's how that came to be. That's the crux of the issue guys. If you're not adult enough to handle the conversation to where you wanna just call folks out and call them demons and damn them to hell because they disagree with how we came to faith, not that we came to faith, but how we came to faith. Let me just say this, let me just say this, if you are a person who thinks that Calvinism are not saved, if you are Calvinism, the non-Calvinism are not saved, you are a child, spiritually speaking. You are a child spiritually speaking. You might be above 21, you might have some age, but you're a child spiritually speaking. If I asked you, and if you were to deliver the gospel and doubtful that many people who do these kind of things actually go out and preach the gospel, what if you did? What would you tell them? Would you say something anti-Calvinist? No, you would give them the gospel and tell them that they placed their faith in Christ. They should be saved. They will be saved if they do so. That's it. They'll be saved. Now we get into the nuance. Well, how does that come about? Calvinism believes that there are some things working prior to you making that statement, this profession of faith. So, what does she call it? So because of that, because of that they're saved, it's just now maybe they're incorrect with all the things, but I promise you, I promise you, there are some things that you're probably incorrect about too when it comes to all of these things. Interestingly enough, there are a lot of people who don't believe in Calvinism but believes one's saved always saved, which I also wonder when you go back and just kind of lift the hood and look at see what's happening with them, you wonder what's happening in terms of how they view the Holy Spirit. Now there are two things we wanna focus on. We wanna focus on obviously sin and how God feels about sin, but to the Holy Spirit and then our will, what we wanna do. I believe that mankind, there are a lot of people who want to be saved. I believe that there are a lot of people who are not saved, who are not authentic Christians, who believe but aren't saved. Wait a minute, Corey, wait, wait a minute. Did you hear what you just said? I heard what I just said. I literally wrote it down and made it come out of my mouth. There are people who believe and believed and aren't saved, but the Bible says all you have to do is believe. Well, we have this conversation. We have this conversation about what it means to believe. There have been people since we, well, let's go back to the writing of the Bible, to we have this recorded history of man that tells us that there were those who believed but they weren't saved. Now, thank you, Brianna, she says it makes sense to her. It is true. If you've heard me enough, you probably have caught on this. Let's go over a couple of passages. Let's go over, where is this? I've got some passages and I don't wanna put all the passages up at once because then my tabs will be this far and I could, can't read what they say. So you'll see me copy and pasting or hear me copy and paste along a lot. Let's give an example of some people who believe but weren't saved. Let's go to John 223. Now, when he was in Jerusalem at the Passover during the feast, many believed in his name, observing his signs, which he was doing, but Jesus on his part was not entrusting himself to them for he knew all men. Now, these are people who had this what we call mental ascent. They believe, they have an understanding, they know what's happening and I believe it. There are a lot of people who have this same mental ascent, this, I believe what happens, I believe it, but it's not, but their belief didn't carry them very far. Can I give you a quick example as a matter of fact? Let's type in, let's see, oh, here it is. I'm copying and pasting, so I don't have to keep putting them on the screen. Here it is. Let's go to Mark 4. Recall the parable of the sower. These are people who have heard the word and there were some who heard the word, received it, and then after a while, moved away from it. How was that you received it and then moved away? What gives? Matter of fact, verse 16 says in similar, given that explanation Jesus says, in a similar way, these are the ones on whom the seed was sown, that is the word, on rocky places who, when they hear the word, immediately receive it with joy. So far sounds like a Christian, but let's keep reading, and they have no firm root in themselves, but are only, here look at this word, temporary, so their belief, their reception is only temporary, then when affliction or persecution arises, because of the word, immediately they fall away. Remember the Bible teaches that you can fall away from the faith, but you can't fall away from having faith. You can fall away from a belief, but you can't fall away from believing. Won't flesh that out too much more because we've done it several times in the past. I think I'm kind of high. So, it's possible to believe. It is absolutely, matter of fact, can I give you another person? Let's go to, and I'm going to Old Testament in a second, but let's go to Acts, chapter eight, is it 13? I think it's 13, yeah, 13. Even Simon himself believed, and after being baptized, he continued on with Philip, and as he observed signs and great miracles taking place, he was constantly amazed. Sometimes things can happen in your life, you can see some things, you can experience some things, and then just mentally and for the, in the moment, you can say, I believe, but it's in the moment, because you saw something, you felt something. I mean, like you emotionally felt something. The music was, man, the music was so good in church. Everything was just, oh man, and he preached, and it was just wonderful. The temperature in the room was wonderful. The lights were moving just perfectly, and I decided to give my life to the Lord, went down to the altar and repeated the prayer, and bam, and then four hours later. So, it's possible to say that you believe something. Matter of fact, it's possible to believe, but not be, remember, we covered this before. The Bible knows of no Christian, no Christian who has not entered into a state one time into a state of continual belief. That's why Jesus used the word temporary. They received it temporarily, temporarily, but I said the issue is a permanency. Go back to the Old Testament. Do you know who else believed, and we know for a fact that they weren't true believers of Yahweh of God? Let's go to, which one am I looking at? Let's look at, okay, here's one. Let's go to the Old Testament. It might already be up there. Yeah, let's put this one up, I was gonna look. Exodus, now you all remember the Jews coming out of Egypt. Matter of fact, in four, let's put up 431 first. In 431, they believe what Moses was saying. They believe the signs and everything. 431 says, so the people believed, and when they heard that the Lord was concerned about the sons of Israel, and that he had seen their afflictions, they bowed low and worshiped. They believe, they saw some signs, and they believed according, then the Word could believe there is belief. Now we told you there's a difference in the Scriptures as it pertains to the word belief. There are those like in John, like Simon, who the Bible says believe, but the verb tense of that belief is different than the verb tense that I'm talking of, of those who have this continual belief that is spurred on and kept and grown by who, the Holy Spirit. Well, we got a problem. Because God has an issue with sin, and the remedy for sin, he makes a remedy for sin. The problem is they believe it for the moment, and we'll get to that in a second. We'll get to that in a second, but here we've got people who believe, and we know for a fact they didn't believe, because they murmured and grumbled as soon as they got out into the wilderness. Chapter 14, verse 31 says, when Israel saw the great power which the Lord had used against the Egyptians, what do they do? The people feared the Lord and they believed in the Lord and in his servants. Question on the floor. You guys, I just wanna ask you guys a question. Just wanna ask you guys a question. Do you all believe, pun intended, do you believe that Israel believed? I just wanna, just tell me yes or no. Do you all believe in the chat? How many of you all in there right now? 400 of you. Do you all believe that Israel believed? They had authentic belief. It says they believed. Do you believe that their belief was authentic? Yes, that was authentic belief, or no, that was not true belief. I love, I'm seeing some no's. You said some did, and you're right, some did not all. Bayan Lars though now says that they believed though. So he's speaking holistically of Israel. No, they did not. We know for a fact Israel did not. I'll leave it alone, I'll leave it alone. They did not, however, to some degree they did. The problem, wait a minute Corey, are you intentionally trying to confuse us? Yes I am. Yes I am. Israel was told to believe. They were shown some things and they believed. How long thereafter being shown something, being shown signs or hearing the word, how long thereafter their belief did they depart seemingly from their belief? How long? It didn't take very long did it? Oftentimes they've got this belief and then they would depart. Now salvation for Israel, or really for anyone who wanna take part in what God was doing was through the atonement. God would offer an atonement. They would have to afflict themselves fast. And then on the day of atonement, atonement is made for them, but they had to believe in it. Are you with me? They believed and what was their reward? Well, they were treated and declared before the Lord as right. How long did that last? How long were they in right standing before the Lord? For one good year, one good year. Why? Well because they would believe and then move on. Matter of fact, the biggest issue was this issue of sin. Believe and then get about to doing their own thing. Go to sinning and go to sinning. So what did God do in the meantime? Obviously knowing that Christ is coming, but in the meantime what did he do? Well, he offered them one a yearly remedy for sin, which was the atonement, but what happens if I sin? And what if I'm getting a lot of sin going in my life in between the day of atonement from this year to next? Well, he also made provision for them to offer a sin offering, did he not? Because they're gonna sin. Why don't we have a sin offering now? We don't. Well, Lord, it's not, and by the way, a sin offering is not us saying, I'm sorry, Lord, forgive me, Lord, no. Their sin offering was them doing something to signify I'm sorry. Why is that? Well, the reason for that is because there's something in them that's different than what we have today. What we have today that they didn't have was the Holy Spirit residing in them. Now the Holy Spirit would come upon them, just like in Joshua and David and Saul. We would see that Samson, the Holy Spirit would come upon them, but this constant indwelling of the Holy Spirit, that was not the case under or in the Old Testament. Now, how did God utilize his Holy Spirit upon them? And obviously it differed from some part, like if you were just above of Tarsus, it wasn't quite the same as the Holy Spirit was on, let's say Elijah, different, right? Or as it was on Joshua. I don't wanna have that discussion right now, but the point is though, that in the Old Testament we see, we saw people believe and then stop believing. We saw the whole nation believe and stop believing. As a matter of fact, we have a book dedicated to them believing and then not believing. We have a book dedicated to them trusting in God and then not trusting in God. The name of that book is the Book of Judges, these cycles that they went through. And that was an issue with God. The issue with God was that these people, here they are today, tomorrow they're down here. And so God is gonna do something about that. Now, my point is that it's not that God changed their will, it's that he changed their will permanently. And if you think that's a slight difference, it's not a slight difference. It's all the difference. It's the reason why you're saved. It makes all the difference. Still sounds like Calvinism to me. I don't care what it, to be honest with you, I don't care what it sounds like. That's not Calvinism. Because Calvinism is not saying that the person has the will to even want to do so. I'm saying we do want to do good. People want to do right. They just don't. Because there's this battle, this tension with their nature and that want them to lean to him. And so a person might say so and look just like what Jesus is describing in the parable of the source. Are you guys with me? As a matter of fact, we've got one person whose son was healed, had a demon. God heals him. The Lord says to him, speak to him about his belief. He says, I believe but help my unbelief. I believe but help my unbelief. Well, because here's the point. It's possible to believe, but that belief is different. It's a superficial mental ascent. Now you do make a mental ascent also but something spiritually also happens. That's the Holy Spirit now. This is also where I kind of go into making the Calvinists feel good because I do believe. I do believe that all of us who are saved are only saved because the Lord does a work in us. Now, let me stop there for a second before I go into there. If let me just use, let me just, Dinah, I'm gonna mess with you for a second. I'm gonna mess with you for a second, Dinah. Dinah can handle it. Let's pretend like Dinah is not a Christian. All right? The non-Calvinists will believe that Dinah has the ability to place her faith in Christ. Now, if Dinah does not place her faith in Christ, that's not on God. That's on her. I agree. I agree. My statement is, it's Dinah times 14, 15 billion. That that's the statement of everybody that's ever lived. All of us can believe, all of us will not believe permanently. We all can have the ability to have this little, as I say this, mental ascent. And Willie Robbins, stay on that for a second. I'm gonna come back to you with that issue. Cause we might be right here. But all of us can, yeah, I believe that's true. How many people do you know but actually believe what you believe, but they're not Christian? They're not saying it. You should know somebody that believes exact same thing that you believe in other meaning that Jesus Christ died on the cross. They believe why he died on the cross, but they have not trusted in him for salvation. They're not safe. How many of you all believe that, that you know someone like that? No, no, she's safe. She's safe. And I agree with that, Mr. Woods. If God doesn't say, no one is safe. And I'm gonna, I'm going to make my Calvinist friends happy in a second, are all Calvinist Christians? No, just like not all our minions are all provisionist, all dispensationalists, not all, not all who say they are, are as a whole other story. But I think that Diana would like to, she makes up in her mind that Jesus did die on the cross and that she all I gotta do is place my faith in him. Trust that he did that. I trust that, but I'm like Simon or I'm like some of the people that Jesus is explaining in Mark or Matthew in the Parable of the Sower. Well, dear Calvinist friends, what keeps her safe? What keeps her believing? What causes her? That takes me into the, oh, by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, before I go there, before I go there, there's a passage we need to read. There's a passage we need to read. Do you all believe that there are any, and I wanna mess with you guys. This is where I want you to put your thinking caps on and do some thunkin'. We're gonna do some thinking here. Are you ready? Are you ready? And listen, I got my black colts cup out today. Marvin said, why don't you believe in, Marvin, the reason why I don't believe in total depravity one, it depends on what you mean by total depravity. I believe that we are total depravity, but not to the point to where we, the Calvinist view real quickly, I don't know if you just now joined in, but the Calvinist view of total depravity is that man is incapable and that God must change his will. I believe that man is capable and he has a will to be, many can have a will, he can, not all, he can have a will to be saved, but not permanently. Let me ask you guys a question, and this is thinking cap time. This is thinking cap time. What shaving cream do I use? It's called, what is it called? I don't know why I'm answering this question 1689, but what is it? It's a yellow, my brother got me onto this, it's called slick shade, I forgot, I have to look it up. I keep ordering it, I don't forgot what it's called anyway. Good question though, by the way, got to have a need to be aerodynamic and sleek. So anyway, let me ask you guys a question. And I'm gonna ask you this, I'm gonna tell you up front, this is a trick question. Hey, man, that even sound like a trick question. It's gonna sound obvious, but I'll ask it anyway. Does anybody seek after God? Does anybody seek after Him? I just, yes or no. Is there anyone that seek after Him that will seek after Him? What do you all think? George Jefferson, wow, you didn't throw me out. You didn't mess with the whole live stream. Does anyone seek after Him? Let's see, Angela says no. Marion says no, yes, no, none, no, no, no, nope. I might lose all my subscribers a day. I'm gonna tell you, that's not entirely true if you say no, here's why. You gotta go look at the passage. Y'all don't mind if we use a little bit of Greek because let's just look at what he says. You all are true, you all are correct, but let's see what he's actually saying. Let's go to Romans three. Do not hang up yet, do not unsubscribe yet, do not hang up, do not report me to YouTube. Y'all know somebody reported me to YouTube. YouTube's not doing anything about it, but somebody reported me to YouTube. What did I do? Oh, I said something bad about Lovie Elias. Yeah, someone reported me for saying something bad about Lovie Elias. I told him good luck with that. So you know what I'm doing? I'm doing another video on Lovie, how about that? Anyway, let's go to the passages. Let's go to the passage. I want you all to see the point that Paul is making. Here it is. He says, Romans chapter three, verse 10. As it is written, there is none righteous, not even one. There is none who understands there is none who seeks for God. Seems like he just said there's none that seeks after him, that's what it says. Let's look at what he means by the none who seek after him. Here we go. Yes, Pastor G, Greek alert. Here it is, the word who seeks after him. Would you look at that there? It is made up of two words, ek, which is from, or in this case, directional. And then this word, zayton. This comes from the Greek word zateo, which means I seek. There is none that seek, there's no seeking. But if we look at the tense of this word, Mr. Woods, if we look at it, it is the present active participle. It's the same tense of a person who's an actual true authentic believer. Remember, somebody can believe and not be a Christian, but if you're believing, you are a Christian. Someone, no one seek, no. We all, or somebody can seek, but there's no one seeking. Y'all see the difference. The seeking is exactly what you do. There is nobody who is constantly seeking. You know why we don't care? Tell true, shame the devil, there's nobody who wants to keep seeking after. First of all, God, I'm gonna feel like seeking after you. Nobody wants, Lord, we ain't got time to be seeking after. Can't you just go ahead and say what? So I can get back to my sentence. That's how we look at things. God, go ahead and punch my ticket so I can get back to doing what I'm doing. So none of us, true, matter of fact, and most of us don't even seek, but let's say someone says, I did seek after you. I came looking for you. The issue is do we keep seeking? And that's why that, listen, words have meaning. There is nobody that before the Holy Spirit that has this lifestyle, this desire to keep seeking after him. Not just Jesus there, okay. And then take off. No, what he's speaking of is someone that wants to remember, y'all remember when Jesus makes a statement and everybody left, everybody left. And then he turns to his disciples and says, y'all gonna leave me too? He said, where we gonna go? They wanted to keep staying with him. They wanted to keep staying with him. Well, we don't do that. We do not want to go after him. First of all, it doesn't feel good because what does feel good is my sin. What doesn't feel good is disciplining myself. It's just not natural. It is not natural to want to seek after him constantly. And so that's why he says, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have, okay, okay, hold on. Listen, let's what I'm saying though, Marvin. He says, you be confused with me. If God initiates it, it did. Now listen, I'm not talking about when God initiates it. I'm not there yet. I'm talking about just in general, we are not seeking. On our own, we might seek for a day. We might hear the word, receive the word, and as the parable of the sword indicates, Jesus says that, fall away. We go somewhere else. That's not a part, listen. There are two categories of people that claim to be Christians, who can't claim to be believers. The category of people who believed versus the category of people who are believing. The category of people who may have sought once versus the category of people who are now as a lifestyle seeking. The category of the people who heard and received, but now who are, that is who they are. They are, this is their lifestyle. The Holy Spirit makes the difference between the two groups, are with me. Once the Holy Spirit gives us a new spiritual disposition, then what do we do? Now we're seeking after him. Now we're believing him. There's a reason why the Bible uses in describing us the believing one, the ones who are believing. There's a reason why we are in this category of this present active participle. That's why we're in the category of believing, of enduring, of hearing, of seeking, of following. That's why we're in that category, but that's only as a result of the Holy Spirit. So our will might be, I mean, I heard this awesome story about this guy who died on the cross, and I believe it. And now I'm not doing something else. Different kind of belief. Are you with me? Are you with me? And you're right, he says we should seek him. We should seek him. But by the way, though, by the way, I covered this before, that particular passage, seek and you shall find it really is not talking about how we say it's talking about. I don't want to cover it, but he's talking about being persistent in asking him. I guess you could, you could make that out to be salvation. That's not really enough point that Jesus is making, but he's saying be persistent. All my kids and everything is shut up and locked up. Though he says though he will not get up and give him any bread because he's his friend, but because of his persistence, therefore, I say seek. Are you with me? Who gives the ability to do that? You might want to wait your turn, fellow. You might want to wait your turn. I'm not disagreeing with who gives us the ability to seek or stay seeking. Who gives us the ability to call on his name? Or to believe, I'm sorry, let's say this. Who gives us the ability to believe? Well, we can all want to believe something. That's a different belief than the believing. That's why the tense of the verb that's used in John 3.16, matter of fact, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Woods. Now I'm giving you ammunition for you to try to refute me when we have our discussion, because Mr. Woods wants to have a conversation with me why I'm wrong, clearly, clearly I'm not. Now, I want to go to John 3 and let's start in, starting verse 14. Now remember the whole conversation of John 3. The conversation of John 3 is Jesus saying, first you got to be born again, born again, born of the spirit, born of the spirit, born again, born of the spirit, born of water and spirit, born again. All right, that has happened first. We've moved down and he makes a statement about people who he said believed, but also ended up perishing. He says, as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up in order that all the ones that are believing in him. So what happens with Moses? What happens with Moses? Well, there were people, those same folks who said they believed when they left and they believed when they saw the miracles, what do they do? After five minutes after the miracles, they ain't see, we need another miracle, God. Five minutes after that, what do they start doing? Stop believing, disbelieving, grumbling against Moses and grumbling against God. What happened to that belief that you guys have? Well, because they can't believe. They could absolutely believe, but it wasn't the right kind of belief, obviously. It wasn't the kind of belief that we're talking about. What do they do? What did God do? He caused them to be bit by these serpents and some of them got sick and died. And so what did God have Moses do? Fashioned the serpent, hold it on the pole and anyone who was the person, the ones that was looking up on that and trusting it, they were saved. They were saved. They believed in God's provision for them at that moment. Are you with me? They believed. Now, how long after that belief did they stop believing? Not far after. They could believe. And they would even at times exhibit a will to believe, but just not a permanent, which is why Jesus used the term temporary when describing the seed that fell among the rocks. So what must happen? This is where I line up with the you where I line up with Calvinist. By the way, this view is not a Calvinistic view. It's a biblical view that Calvinist adopted. I'm not gonna let everyone say that that's a Calvinistic view. No, it's not. It's in the Bible. Because a Calvinist, or guess what? If a satanic worshiper believes what I just said, that means that that's his doctrine. No, it's a biblical doctrine. Are you with me? Now, someone brings up this passage. So I wanna go there first. Ezekiel 18, remember what the problem is with Israel. And guys, remember, the one thing that I say you ought to have that I care about you doing is not so much the titles, but I care about you figuring out, ironing out what your hermeneutic is. That's the more important thing because it helps you into reading the scriptures. Well, what happened as we get to Ezekiel 18, there's something going on with Israel. God is dealing with Israel. Israel, they've been given the prophets, they've been given these signs, these wonders, these miracles, and they believe for a second and then go away. Matter of fact, even in giving them the law, even in giving them the covenant, God says, you're gonna leave. You're gonna move away. And then he says what he's going to do. I'll get back to that in a second, but he deals with their problems if only you all would just do this. Now, God is not asking them to do something that they can't do. He's not telling them to do something that you can't. Now, if you say they can't, we gotta find the scriptures that say they can't. And I know where you're gonna go. It's not quite what you're saying is gonna say, but I'll hold off that because I don't wanna get too far into it. But God in Ezekiel 18, 31, let's pull it up. He says, where am I? He says, let's start in verse 30. Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct, declares the Lord God. Repent, turn away from all your transgressions so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you. Remember, God's issue is sin. Is sin in you, out of you all the way around. That's his issue. He never listened. God ain't getting off of that. God is not like, yeah, you know what? Remember I used to be, remember I used to have a problem with sin. Now I don't know, he's got a problem with sin. He's got a huge problem with sin. Now, let's go back to it. Verse 31, he says, cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why will you die, O house of Israel? Now he's not literally saying, create a brand new heart and you know, change your heart is what he's saying. Israel, stop sinning, cast away all that sin and fix your heart, get your heart right, boy. That's what he's saying. Try as they might, they don't. They don't. And so what is his remedy? You all know the passage that we go to. And by the way, I'm gonna selfishly take credit for this. I'm seeing a whole lot of people using this passage which is, I didn't write it. I didn't write it, but I use a lot. So God says, what is he gonna do with Israel? By the way, he brings us up in Deuteronomy 30 as well. We'll go back to Deuteronomy 30 in just a second. But he says, then, speaking of Israel, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Wait a second. Teenage reformer, no, I'm not a Calvinist. Did you see my intro? Go back and watch my intro. I'm just messing with you. No, I'm not a Calvinist. I'm not a Calvinist. But look what he says. He says, then, I will sprinkle clean water on you and you will be clean. Now, I heard someone, I'm not gonna say the person's name, tearing this apart and missed the, I was like, what? It's almost like you drove around the key hurdles. But look what he says. I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idol. Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes and you will be careful to observe my ordinances. This is God saying what he's going to do and there's an order. I will do this and then you will. I will do this first and then you will notice who's the active participant in this and who's the passive participant. I is God. Did that sound crazy? I just said that I is God. The I in this is God. The you is us. Well, specifically speaking Israel, but as we read John chapters one and three, we find and four, we find out that it's not just Israel only, but it's also everyone who was born of the spirit. Are you with me? Now I wanna look at the passage also in Deuteronomy 30. Deuteronomy 30, I think it's six. I think it's six. Yep, there it is. Moreover, the Lord God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants to love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul that you may live. Why does he say that? Why does he say that? Well, because he just, now this is after he's given them, made this covenant with them, they have not entered into the land yet and he said, stop it Proverbs, but he says that I'm going to scatter you. I'm gonna bring you back and restore you into the land and then after I bring you back and restore you into the land, then you know what I'm gonna do? Then I'm gonna start changing hearts. I'll start putting my spirit in you. Up until that point, I'm not putting my spirit in you. Are you with me? Well, when was that point? At and after the cross? Well, I should say after the cross. So he's telling them, he's asking them, he's crying out, would you at least, would you please get your heart right? Stop sitting, believe, keep believing. And then he goes a step further and gives a mechanism to bring about reconciliation. After I give you this, offer this atonement and you put faith in that, you are atoned for you in right standing, then you knuckle head still depart, move away. And then you sin and you feel bad and so what do you do? I've even made a provision for you to bring about these sin offerings. Well, there's a reason why we don't have the day of atonement anymore and we don't have these sin offerings because something new has happened because the one offering, the new offering, the greater offering, the greater atonement, administered by a better high priest with a better scapegoat and better perpetuation. Now it's happened one time and we've got this spirit in it, but what happens before that? This unconditional election that states that you have to be first regenerated. Well, this is what Jesus is talking about in John 3. If you go to John 3, he says, before there is the kingdom of God that you can see, before you see this kingdom of God, you must first what? Be born again. Who does the born again in you? You know God does, that's an act of God. We can't get past what Ezekiel 36 is saying. I've seen people try to, what are they called decalvanized Ezekiel 36. Again, it's not a Calvinist passage, it's just a passage. Now Calvinists may lock on to it and they should. That passage tells us what the Holy Spirit is gonna do and it's gonna cause us to walk in him. Gonna cause us to do what? Keep believing, keep following, keep seeking. It's gonna cause us to be drawn towards him. We have a new heart. Who brings about this new birth in us? Not us. Ezekiel 36 is clear that he does that. He does that. John 3 tells us what God does that unless you are born of the spirit and it's like the wind. You don't know where it's coming from or where it's going to. So too is everyone who is born of the spirit. You must be born of the spirit before you make that profession that only happens because God does a work in you. That only happens because God does a work in you. It bothers, and I don't know why it bothers people but it does, it bothers people. It bothers people to know that you didn't do it, God did it. Well, again, you can do it, you just won't say doing it. You can believe, you just won't stay believing. You can seek, you just won't stay seeking. You can do all those things, you won't stay doing it unless it is born about by the Holy Spirit. That is a fact, friends. Now, I'm gonna also offer an opportunity for if in case someone wants to ask some questions towards the end about this, a few questions, not exhaustive. They'll say things like in Romans 28, 828, and 29 that God, who God foreknew, which by the way, that's not biblical to say that God looked through the lens of time and sees that you're gonna choose him, then he chooses you, then he predestines you. Now, the word is predestined. Destined prior to, in advance. You don't predestine someone who's already made a decision. That is not what the word means, it just isn't. Not in English or in Greek. So he does that. So even if, so whatever God does, he predestines you. I don't see how it doesn't even fit the definition of him saying you do something, then he predestines you. That's not predestining. That's him just acknowledging what you did. So for that reason, I am firmly in the camp of you, unconditional election. The L, I won't spend a lot of time on this. I'm gonna give a couple passages and say why what God did, his atonement was not limited at all. Meaning that it was only four, he died only four, those who will ultimately place their faith in Christ. Let's go to the main passage, which would be 1 John 1. I mean, 1 John 2, 2. Let's put it on the screen. All right, there it is. Let's start in verse one. My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ, the righteous. And look what he says. And he himself is the propitiation, it's the payment. He is the payment for our sins. Now question, who's the our sins? When he says he's the payment for our sin, who's the hour that he's speaking of? This isn't hard because he calls us my little children. So who do you all think that the hour is? When he says my little children, he's the payment for our sins. Just that first part. That's right, Johnny, believers. Believers, we know that because he says, Mu Tekne Amu, this right here, my little children, Tekne Amu. So he's clearly talking about the children. And he says that if anyone sins, we have this advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ, the righteous. He himself is the payment. That's what the word propitiation is or the Greek word, elasmus, which is this payment for our sins. Here's how we know it's not just for the believer only who sins were propitiated. There was payment made for that. He also says, and not for hours only, but also for those of the whole world. And he means the whole world. You know how we know he means the whole world, the entirety of the world, everybody, or as they say in Detroit and in Memphis and in the South, everybody. How do we know that? Here's how, because he literally, guys, he literally said that. He literally said the whole world. Let's, he says, Halu Tu Cosmo, which is the whole of the world, the entirety of the world, the whole, the complete, all of the world. And he contrasts that with, says not only us, the believers, but also, well, if it's only for the believers, why would he contrast the believers with other believers? That it literally means that they're, I haven't heard anyone get around. I heard someone say that, well, I've been to Japan and I've been to Canada and I've been to Jamaica. I've been all these places. I've been all over the world, but I haven't been in all of the world. Well, that's not what he's saying, buddy. That's, stop it. Please stop it. So for that reason, I do not subscribe to limited atonement. A lot of people who call themselves four point Calvinists also depart from there, okay? Now this issue of irresistible grace, irresistible grace, I might be in the camp of irresistible grace. I might not be. That's why I say I'm a 2.5, maybe three. It depends on what you mean by irresistible grace. I will say I agree if it's in the sense that, not in the sense that God drags you against your will. No, he does not drag you against your will. Cause again, what do you have now? You have a disposition now that it's no longer, I just want to, now I continually want to. And so why? Because a person's will is permanently changed, which is why Jesus will bring this issue with this, with this, I hate to say 2.5 is too few. I'm sorry, buddy. Listen, and I love you guys, but Jesus says that in this prayer of the sword, the person who's only temporarily, and so there's this issue. I can, anybody, I think anybody named Mama can believe, but anybody named Mother cannot keep believing, keep seeking, are you with me? I'm there for the moment, okay, fine. It's not hard to, it really ain't hard, even just mentally to believe what Jesus did. Logically speaking, to know that here's a God, a perfect God who created all this, has it in perfect balance and harmony, and all of these prophecies about him have come true, say the second coming, all of these prophecies, even a prophecy about Alexander the Great and Greece, and his country being divided in fours, even something so specifically, these prophecies are logically enough proof to believe that the writers of the Bible have it together. And so what was stated in the Gospels and verified in Acts, as well as the writers, that they don't verify that Jesus did get up and was raised, no, but they verify that people believe that and died as a result of that. So logically speaking, it makes sense to believe that this can happen, because think about it, what's harder to do, logically speaking? What's harder to do, logically speaking, to take on flesh as God, die, and be raised in three days? Is that harder to believe than a God makes the entire world, all the people in it, with all of our trains of sales and everything works perfectly in harmony, in concert, same thing with all the planets? Well, creating of the world is harder than Jesus dying for our sins. Logically speaking, you would disagree with that before you disagree with other ones, but we know that this world exists. Now, they wanna disprove that too as well, but still, the point is, it makes sense though to wanna believe. It does, but it goes contrary to our nature to wanna keep believing, that's the issue. That's why I keep bringing up the fact, this issue of believing, believing, believing, believing, believing, that's what he calls us. He calls us as Christians, the believing, those who are believing. How do I keep my head so smooth? I'll tell you how I keep my head so smooth, the Lord. The Lord is my barber. When I wanted to grow hair, the Lord stopped me. The Lord rebuked those follicles and he gave me a glorified skull. Anyway, and people keep saying, am I, listen, are you sweaty? He's sweaty, no, I guess it's just the light. Maybe I'm just oily, I don't know, but it's, I'm literally not sweating. I'm not sweating at all. I'm not, people say, of course you're sweating. I'm not sweating. I think what you all may see is the glow. Not the sole glow, not baby oil. No CG, not baby, definitely not baby, no. Got any old glistening up in your nose? It's the Holy Spirit, that's what it is. You know what maybe it is that sole glow. Amen, that spirit glow. And it radiates, that's what it is. That's what it radiates. That's what it is. Now, some people with bald heads cover theirs. They're same to theirs. Who would have a bald head take a picture with a hat on? Somebody wouldn't raise right, that's all. Somebody who is quenching the spirit, that's all. Anyway, back to this. The heart has been born from above. When that happens, when your heart is changed, okay, and this working in you, what's the Calvinist position? I don't think you understand the Calvinist position on man does not have the ability to believe. Well, tell me what it is. Tell me what the Calvinist position is. But what happens in you is that your heart is brand new and he does just what God said you're going to do. Calvinist people in the chats, I'm gonna ask you guys a question. I ask you guys a question. Do you believe that anybody, prior to the Holy Spirit, can believe? I went up a couple of passages. You say, no, I'm gonna say, why weren't you looking at the passage I put up? Do you believe that anyone prior to the Holy Spirit could believe and then stop believing? Amen. Luke Cage, though he, I don't get, I keep pushing it wrong, but it's these little passages. Is it true that only those that are given or drawn to Jesus by the Father are those who are truly saved? Yes, yes, yes, yes, now. That, listen, that's where the, that is where the Calvinist like, amen, Cor, you my man. And that's where the people who are not Calvinist like, no, you just lost it, buddy. You're a heretic, you're a false teacher. Let's go to the passage. Let's go to the passage. I was, pardon me, I was actually hoping to avoid that because I, truth be told, you can be here forever. You can be here all day and all night looking at these passages. Now I'm gonna go to this passage first and then go to the previous passage in just a little bit. He says, no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise him in the last day. Now somebody's response will be, yep, but that didn't mean that all the people that came to him was drawn. Well, wait a second, hold on. I'm gonna come back to that, Rick, in just a little bit. So someone say, well, no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. Does that include all of the people that came to him that were drawn? Yeah, because all we gotta do is go back up further to verse 30, 37, all that the Father gives me will come and the one who comes to me, I will certainly not cast out. So the Father gives us to him and what does he say is gonna happen? The Father gives whoever he gives, the one that he's giving, they will come. Now, which is why we go with, so for that reason, yeah, this is why I don't have a problem with irresistible grace. I don't have a problem with that because I do believe that now, the word for drawing is a verb, it is the same as pulling a sword, that's how cool, and folks have tried to, you know, that's not necessarily what it means, but this is also tied in with verses 37, 38, 39, all that the Father gives to me will come and he also says that I will not lose any of who, all the ones that he's given and the only comment if he's drawing you. So I think that's pretty clear. Score one for the Calvinists who love me, X mark against the nine Calvinists. Do Calvinists believe in free will? You have to ask them. I say this about this whole issue, he says I shouldn't have a problem, I'm reading the wrong screen, where is it at? You shouldn't have a problem with limited atonement, but you are a closet Calvi. No, I'm not, I know what it is. By the way, I know what it is. Rick and Seiko and all you other guys who want me to declare for Calvi, I know why you guys want me to be Calvinist and I'm honored, I'm flattered. I feel like a college football player coming out for the draft and you guys want me on your team. I think that's what, I have a tear. I feel honored, I feel honored that you want me on your team. I feel honored, but I know your team. I ain't with you, how about that? I'm with a different, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. We're on the same team. We're on the same team. Now, that being said, I think when you try to take apart versus 44 and John six and act as though it's not part of all of those conversations that he's having in John six, that's the issue. I think that it is. I think that, I think, and if you see that then, yeah. Now, I personally don't have a, the issue with Calvinism, isn't the five points or two people have? No, the issue that people have is the work that God does prior to them doing. The issue that they have an issue with is that, no, I placed my faith in Christ, then he counted me as worthy. No, that's the issue. That's the issue, the issue, because we want, let's think about it. I don't care what anyone says. The fact of the matter is, because it's our nature, you do wanna have something to boast about, you just do. You wanna be able to say that I placed my faith in Christ, that I, you want to be able to do that, which is why God gives us his great eyes. Yeah, but listen, he did, again, you can say he laid down his life for the sheep only, but he did not. He literally said not only us, but also the world also. So he brings in another group as well, but the big issue is that people want him, you wanna be responsible for something. We like telling people how we've overcome, how I made it. We wanna be able to tell people to look at us. You really do wanna have something to boast about, and we all do. Even us, us who are true authentic Christians, we like to have something to boast about. A lot of times we say, look what God has done for me, but really what we're saying, look at me. Don't we do that? And I don't care that God gets the credit. Don't care at all. I'm giving God the credit. He made a way for me, and all I had to do was just choose him. No, you didn't. He chose you before you chose him. He loved you. Now, people may wanna say that that John 15 passage is not for us, it's only to the disciples. That's fine, but when 1st John says that we loved him after he first loved us, that's for all of us. You didn't love him first, he loved you first. Stop it. Stop it, you're not that good on your best day. Use some trash. On your best day. You need him. You might think it's a good idea. You know, it makes sense. It makes real good sense to wanna, because he died for my sins, and I got some sins. However, my sins ain't as bad as that person. My sins aren't as bad as that person. I'm all right. I'm all, no, you're not. No, you're not. You know how no, you're not? Because you disappoint yourself every day, or at least every other day, if you're honest with yourself. If you don't believe that you disappoint yourself, ask your wife and kids, they'll tell you. They'll tell you, they'll remind you. You do, we do just ridiculous things all the time and can't even figure out why we do it. Can't even figure out why we do it. Because this is how we are. And he has to come and fix that. That's why you love him. Remember, Jesus makes his statement about the woman who comes to Simon, not the apostle, the disciple Simon, but to the Pharisee Simon's house. And he says, you see this woman here? Let me tell you something about her. Cause I see y'all tripping off her because she's over here just fawning all over me. Stop proverbs. He says, yeah, that's a question. Two people are older dead. One older significant, as significantly greater debt than the other. Both debts were forgiven. Who is grateful? Who loves more? He says, I suppose the one whose debt led the bigger debt, he says, you're right. He says, you see this woman? She has not ceased to wash, you ain't washed my feet, you hadn't done anything. He had, you hadn't done anything. But this woman, look what she's done. Wiping my feet with her hair. She says she has had many, he says she has many sins. And look how he's comparing it, that her love in comparison to the fact that she knows that all of her sins were forgiven, many sins were forgiven. But look at you, look at you. You invite me over here, but you don't care about me, but look at her. So that's the point that we need to come to grips with, that we didn't do anything. Matter of fact, oh, Conan, I gotta go there. I got to go there, can we go to Philippians 2? Philippians, chapter 2, verse 8. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, wrong one, not Philippians 2. I'm sorry. Ephesians 2, let us go to Ephesians 2, please. Ephesians 2 says, for by grace you have been saved through faith, that night of yourself, it is the gift of God, not as a result of work so that no one may boast. Now, people say, I'm not boasting. Oh, yeah, you are, but fine, fine. Let's take it out of your hands and let's just look at the language. Let's just look at the language because we wanna see what is the gift. Is the gift salvation or is our faith the very fact that we can believe and I mean, keep believing? Is that a gift or is that on us? Is it, here's the opportunity, now you gotta do something to believe. Balls in your court, human beings, just believe. No, look what he says. He says, for by grace. I'm sorry, for by grace you have been saved through faith. Now, this faith that saves you, he says, and that night of yourself, it is a gift of God. What is the gift? Here's this word right here. Ka-tutah. This word, ka-tutah, it is in what's called the neuter voice. I'm in the neuter case, it's in the neuter. If faith or salvation is in the neuter, then we understand. For example, matter of fact, let's do this. Let's work the other way around. Grace, you have been saved. The word saved, look in the bottom left-hand corner, guys, this is the masculine. This is the masculine. If we wanna know if salvation is the gift, then the it would also be in the masculine, but it's not. The it, and by the way, it can be the masculine, but in this case, it's in the neuter. Well, then what about faith? Are we saying that faith? Let's see what faith is in. Then we go to faith. Look at faith. Faith is in the feminine. So faith is in the feminine, so now we got a problem. We got salvation is in the masculine. Faith is in the feminine. So the it is referring back to what? Well, it's referring back to both. Grammatically, in Greek, you would use this tutah in the neuter to encompass the previous statement. What's the previous statement? By faith, you have been saved and the, so I'm sorry, so the salvation and the faith are both covered by the tutah. So just in the grammatical structure, Greek structure, it becomes evident that the gift is salvation and the gift also is the faith. Disagree with you, listen, take it up with your, take it up with your friendly neighborhood Greek grammarian because that's what that means. That's what that means. You want me to go back to 1st John 2-2? I'll go back to 1st John 2-2. Oh, 1st John 2, let's go back there. We just left there. Dog on it, Rick, it means you don't get here on time. I'm messing with you. All right, let's go back to it. He says, my little children, speaking of who? Obviously, when he makes a statement, he says, take me in movies, speaking of children. These are Christians. I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin and if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father as Jesus Christ. So it's clear he's talking to Christians. Us is Jesus Christians. He says, Jesus Christ the righteous and he himself is the perpetuation, the payment for our sins. He is the payment for our sins. Who sin? Ours, us Christians. Then he says, and not for ours only, not for ours only, or my own, not for ours alone. So not for ours alone, the hours we already identified are the Christians as believers, not for ours alone, it's not for just the Christians, only the Christians. The same way this is having an issue with, okay, he said, anytime I arrive, I'm on time. Amen, amen, amen. You still live in it. Amen, I like that though. I like that. God will pop the color, buddy. But he's saying, I didn't just pay the payment for you only but for the whole world. Now, remember, all he's doing, remember God has not changed anything. We're still saved by the Atonement. Paul tells us that in Romans, I believe it's five. Now, let's go back to how the Atonement works. The Atonement was made available for all of the people but it was only beneficial, that's a totally different story. It was only beneficial for those that actually humbled themselves and afflicted themselves and then also placed their faith in the accepting that God did on the sacrifice, the payment. So was all of Israel atoned for? No, no, there were some who didn't. Not all of Israel, he did it. Not all of Israel adhered to it. Now, if you didn't, you better hope you didn't die but only those who by faith and who had afflicted themselves, only those, by the way, that's how you believe that everything is being prepared and the God has gone accepted, only those are the ones who would have had the Atonement matter for them. So yeah, the Atonement was not just for those who ultimately placed their faith. The Atonement is made there for everybody. So no one can say, well, even if I did, you didn't die for me. No, I did. It's paid for the whole world. This guy said, I'm making this point. Well, I guess one day you're gonna have to show me. I guess one day you're gonna have to show me. But anyway, that being stated, I, yeah, it's like you guys, you guys want me to be a Calvin so bad? No. No, I'm not, listen, I'm not joining your club. How about that? I don't know. The P. Guys, I have gone over this a billion trillion times about the P, the perseverance of the saints. I am down with that. So I'm with the P. I'm with the U. I'm probably with the I. And then somebody on say, well, wait a second, because I want to address this issue of this. People say with this double predestination that God, he predestines some to salvation and then naturally predestines the rest of hell. No. In second, second Peter three, nine, let's go there. I just want to make this point real quick, real briefly. I don't know if I can type Peter three, nine. He says, the Lord is not slow about his promises as some count slowness, but is patient towards you, not wishing for anyone to perish, but for all to come to repentance. This word for wishing is not the word phileo, which is desiring or wishing that doesn't mean wishing, but another word for that means a slightly different take on it is the word bulimai, or in this case, bulimano, which means he is not appointed or has caused you to go there. He's not placing you there. You get to hell on your own. That's you doing it. So he's not, so this passage is letting us know that he has not destined anyone to hell. No. Now he's determined punishment for your sins, is that? But he's made a way out of that. Let me ask this question, where's she go? She said, is it significant that God, the Father approved Jesus before he worked? This is, oh, this is my son. Well, please. Well, he was approved before, he's God. Now, was it, and this gets into the whole big words, the infrasub and superlap serenism, and all sorts of like that, which we're not gonna go into today, but did God determine that he's going to send his son to come die for everybody? And so because of that, he also had to decree a fall for his son to be the son. I think God was, I think he'd still be just as much God if there had not been a fall. Now, this is where it gets tricky. Get into the mind of God, which is just too difficult for us to do. Getting into his mind to figure out how the order of things worked, that can be a bit tricky. That can be a bit of a problem. And so I like to have a healthy amount of, I don't know how God ordered these things. I just, I'll just go with the things that I know for a fact. I just know for a fact, the things that he has declared. Now, I got a problem with all you Calvinists. I gotta, let me drink my coffee. Cause I got a problem with you Calvinists. I got a problem with you Calvinists. I also got a problem with you Armenians. And I got a huge problem with you Provisionists. And I got a problem with you Dispensationalists. I got a problem with you Baptists, you Methodists, you Episcopalists. I got a problem with you Church of God, and you Coding Folks, with you Simmons of God folks. I got a problem with you Church of Christ, but I got a problem with you people. Can I tell you what my problem is? And it's biblical. It's not me just making this up. I got a huge problem with you. Huge problem with you. I got a problem with you folks that are sitting there taking these Confessionals and holding them dear. I got a huge problem with you. And I want you guys to hear me. I want to hear you get your way out of this. I want to hear you dig your little, your little sinful ways out of this. I'm messing with you. I'm picking with you guys now. You all know me by now. First of all, even if I were a Calvinist, I wouldn't say I would. Let me put it up on the screen. Now why I exhaust you. This is Paul, by the way, y'all realize why Paul wrote the first Corinthians. The problem is, Mr. O'Mell Tucker, how you doing my brother? The problem is this. This, this and this. Ah, I'm pushing buttons. We are, so yeah. There's a problem. When you call yourself this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, some of y'all got like four titles. You're beholden to them and you think that you're not, but you are. Cause watch how you guys fight like heck to defend what you say you believe in. Man, it's amazing. And y'all, that's not me, but everyone else sitting and looking at you. Yes you do. Yes you do. This was Paul writes the first, the book of Corinthians, the first letter to say, y'all, we got these divisions. You divide on a lot of things. He goes to issues when it comes to the family, marriage and so forth. As it also, as it pertains to spiritual things, Numitiko, starting 1st chapter 12 on the tongues and so forth. But he starts off in one, look what he says. Now I exhort you, brethren, by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that you all agree in that there be no divisions. Now he's not saying that I gotta agree with every single point that you all agree with. That's not his point, that we'd be of the same mind. That we'd be on the same team. He says that there'd be no divisions among you. This word for division is a word for schismar which is what we have to word schisms, these fractions and these factions and these cliques and so forth. He says there'd be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment. Look what he says. For I have been informed concerning you my brethren by Chloe's people. Chloe's people are snitched on y'all, they're telling on y'all. Told us, told me that there are quarrels among you, huh? Really? Just then, only then, no, also today he says, now I mean this, that each of you, each one of you is saying I'm of Paul and I'm of Apollos and I of Cephas and I of Christ. Has Christ been divided? Don't play dumb, don't act like you know what I mean. You know what I mean, don't give me an excuse. Well, it's healthy to know what we believe. Well, tell them what you believe. You put the little moniker on that little title, the little tag, and what do you do? You create more division, more fights. Now we're sitting going back and forth, you count it, well, okay, fine, fine. I wouldn't call myself a countess if your life depended on it. I'm not. I wouldn't call myself Armenian. No, I'm not. Make that fit into your little world where you wanna be this. You wanna be that. He literally just says so. If I am of Calvinism, that's why I hang my head on. I took my professional faith of Westminster, Baptist, I am national, I'm all these different things. I've taken my, now, and by the way, Calvinists aren't the only ones that have confessions. I'm just using them. But a lot of folks do these things. If that's what you are, Paul is literally rebuking that thought. He's rebuking that. Stop saying you're Calvinist. Even if you believe, even if you hold that. Matter of fact, I would suspect that if many of you stop holding to what you say you are, you might be even more open to seeing some things you might grow in your doctrine. Now, this is the whole point of being a smart Christian. Being able to say, I don't know. I don't know. Now, I just said something specifically about how this, how God works things out in terms of the order of salvation and so forth in the time. I don't know. In my mind, I would think that it was all simultaneous, but I don't know how God's minds work. I don't know. He's told me earthly things and I can't get it. How then can he tell me heavenly things? Things that are in his mind. Don't know. His ways, his thoughts, his mind is so much higher than mine. Don't know. Can't get there. Now, somebody, and what I'm looking for is, I'm looking for the first person to step out there and tell me, yeah, but it's okay to be a Calvinist. Give me the passage. Give me the, all you Calvinists, all you Armenians, all you dispassionless, all of you provisionists, give me the passage. I'm looking for it. I've got, listen, I've got my, listen, I've been stretching my fingers. I'm ready to type. Give me the passage. Make what you just said make sense in the eyes of Paul's letter. It doesn't. It doesn't. And the thing is, you don't actually have to have a statement of faith that's other than what we all agree upon, that you must place your faith in Christ. Now, I understand, because think about it. How many times, the mere fact that we've been having this conversation that I'm a Calvinist because people say, well, no, that sounds like what a Calvinist thinks. Stop it. That's, you're part of it. With all due respect, you're part of the problem. You're part of the problem. I made a statement, and I don't think he quite got it. I pray that you see, let me just, I have to deal with this. That you see the deliverance ministries. Listen, dimsticks, I think you haven't heard. I believe that deliverance is biblical. Coughing a demon out. I don't think that. Taking four hours, taking four hours, and slanting, no, that's not, which is why the leaders of these particular ministries won't talk to me. I would say, but see, I would say, Rick, don't forget the title, because now what if you take this title, so Tereological Monarchist, and then what if it catches on? And now you got 34, I like that too. 100 people, 1,000 people, 2,000. Now, why didn't I just say, I'm of Christ, and this is what I believe about these different things. This is what I do. You all have never heard me say, not one time have you heard me say, well, Corey, it sounds like you are squarely in the camp of dispensationalists. Well, wait a minute, which kind of dispensationalists? And I've said, what you can say is I have a dispensational hermeneutic. That's the only thing that I've said, the only thing I will say, my hermeneutic, which doesn't put me in, because guess what? You can be dispensational in your hermeneutic, and also be a Calvinist. You can. I didn't say casting out demons is not biblical. First of all, you're on the wrong show, dimsticks. But casting out demons is biblical. How you do it. Again, all those people that wanna go out and do this casting out of demons, come on, call with me. Somebody say, do I have a video of me going out and doing, no, but I'll tell you what I will do. Just for you guys, I will upload some within the next month or two, as I go out more, as it falls out here in Dallas. Where are my registered Calvinists? Do you, by the way, do you all have a card? You'll have a Calvinist card like a Republican or Democrat. You're right, you can't be reformed and dispensational. That's how, someone, people call me reformed all the time. I'm not reformed. You cannot be reformed and dispensational. Why? Because of how we treat Israel. So, but what's awesome, I'm not trying to go with you to say anything. Say what you wanna say so I can knock it down, Mr. AS. Say, this is my troll-making buddy from prison. Say what you wanna say. Say what you wanna say, so anyway. But guys, thank you, JD. Am I saying this right, Tresby? Thank you. He said, a bribe to become Presbyterian. Yeah, that's cute. I like that, I like that, I like that. It didn't work, but I like it. Amber said, what do you mean? What do you mean by what do I mean? I'm not sure what you're asking. I'm not sure what you're asking. Rick said, I'm a registered independent. Amen, amen. So, listen, don't listen, do, no, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't encourage him. Don't encourage him. He's got a long way to go, don't encourage him. That's the whole point, though, guys. You wanna be a Calvinist, fine, be a Calvin. You wanna be an Armenian, fine, be an Armenian. You wanna be at, whatever you wanna be, be what you want. Now, listen, Dane Corey, you ain't Calvinist, nah, bro, you want the smoke now, JK. But listen, y'all know I don't mind the smoke. Listen, I have literally called out two or three people at the same time. I've offered to go on to someone's show and they're like, four or five of them. I don't mind. I think that I've got scriptures to go off of and by the way, Rick, you never told me what's the difference in my belief of total depravity and yours. I cannot leave, Rick, until you tell me what your definition of total depravity is, how it differs from mine. I mean, how it's the same as mine. So tell me what your, or just tell me what your definition of total depravity is. In the meantime, let me see if there are a couple of, oh, why can't a dispensational be reformed? Because to be reformed, they don't hold to a literal historical grammatical hermeneutic which causes Israel eschatologically to be the focus. I believe that when, because I believe numbers matter, I believe that when he says that there are 77s, he didn't say that the 77s are gonna be chronological. We went through the first 69. Paul indicates that we are in the fullness of the Gentiles and in his last sevens, seven-year periods are gonna kick him and it's gonna be an affliction to Israel. I believe that Israel is taken, that the church is taken away. The body of believers at that time are taken away and then we're gonna see this affliction which we call the tribulation. The Bible speaks of this seven years in the Old Testament, we see the New Testament and we see it even broken up into pieces in the tribulation. And I think that every time that the Bible is given these numbers, these numbers mean something. There's only one Israel. Give me a passage of Israel where it doesn't mean Israel. 1689, give me one passage where Israel doesn't mean Israel. We have to read it. Now, by the way, now, by the way, you solo scripture guys, I won't, we're not gonna do this solo scripture thing and then we're not gonna have a scripture. Give me a scripture for where Israel is not Israel. It always means Israel. We are not Israel. How do I know so? Because God literally says that while there's seas and seas and all this stuff like that, that Israel will never cease to be a nation before the Lord, not us, them. By the way, did y'all notice how when Abraham, is contending about Sodom? No, all believers are not Israel. Where did we find that at? But do y'all know when Abraham was contending about Sodom? And what does he say? I'm not gonna destroy it if there are righteous people there. So what does he do? He takes the righteous people out of there and destroys it. He's not gonna destroy this earth while we're here. Yeah, but see the thing is though, that definition right there, Layton Flowers agrees with that. Layton Flowers, by the way, is the gentleman earlier who's a proficientist. He agrees with that. Corrupts every aspect of man, mind, will, heart, et cetera. But now it's the action part, what does it do? Does it result in an inability, a desire, that's the point. And so I won't debate you. Listen, weren't you my, Star Wars speaking, weren't you my pattern one learner? What'd I say? I taught you everything you knew. I didn't tell you everything I knew. Okay, I'll mess with him, guys, it's my buddy. And by the way, if I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture or whatever, am I going to hell because of that? People do this stuff. People do this stuff. All I gotta do is place my faith in Christ and we can flesh out the nuances. Did anybody ever think that the word flesh was flesh? I used to think it was flesh out, but it's flesh out, F-L-E-S-H. But this is the problem that I have. I'm not talking about a parent, obvious heretics. And by the way, guys, I hate, I hate, I hate it. I really do, I don't, I hate it. I hate, I hate, I hate. Hate's a bad word, hard word, but I hate. I hate talking about these heretics, these I really do, I really do. But it's like the judge who hates putting criminals away for life. Gotta do it, gotta do it. And so I don't want to talk about these people, but I have to, they just, but there are people though that we, that I'm not saying unity with that stuff. This guy, wait, wait, do you see what I'm talking about? I'm not gonna tell you what I'm, sometimes I don't want to click on the buttons that people send me these links. Hey, check out this guy, check out this guy, check out this guy, check out the whole board. And what I'll do is I'm sitting there watching TV or something like that. Oh, what in the world did he just say? What is she? Sometimes, sometimes I gotta let it go. Sometimes, you know what, I need to cover this. Sometimes it's just too ridiculous to cover it. You'll see what I mean shortly. Those people are not with us, but all of us dispensational. By the way, which type of dispensation? Do y'all realize there's like three or four types of dispensationalists? And if you ask one of them, it might be different from the other one. Same thing with Calvinists. Have you ever seen Calvinists disagree with each other? A lot, a lot. What about Armenians? Provisions, what if he was just a Christian who professed faith in Christ and now you're trying to work this thing out? First of all, I think you do better. I think you do better. Now, someone's gonna make a video. Someone's gonna make a video. Corey, you're still a Calvinist. I wanna get like handcuffed. Call me a Calvinist again. Which I don't mind, by the way. I'm really not by the people who call me Calvinists. You don't think of, you're not listening. You've got more trust in what you say about me than what I say about myself. You think I don't know. I'll send you the link so you can come on and tell me. So I can, no, I'm not gonna send you the link today. Now, listen, I do love laden flowers. And I've said, because of the amount of time covering that, the people who are not as mature as you, it develops venom and vitriol in some of them. It develops venom in them because they can't, he has stated that Calvinists are dear brothers and friends and brothers and the Lord, he has stated that. He has stated that. But some of the people that follow him, they don't get that. Same thing with James White, he says that they both think that each other's off their rocker. But they love each other. They think that both are saved, they're just wrong. Problem is it's hard to flesh that out when you got 40, 50, 1,000 videos against them. Like, okay. And that's my only issue. What does red lives matter? Red lives matter, and I didn't realize I had it on, but the whole point of what I'm saying is, the only life that matters, the only life that matters is a life that is covered by the blood. If when he sees you, he doesn't see red, that doesn't matter. If when he looks at you, if when he looks at you, he sees Calvinus, but not the blood, you're going to hell. If he looks at you and when he sees you, he sees Arminian, but not the blood, you're going to hell. If he looks at you and he sees Pentecostal, charismatic, reformed, non-reformed, but doesn't see the blood, you, my friend, are on your way to hell. Matter's not about your doctrinal positions, because I can promise you this, somewhere in your doctrinal positions, in the lines that you've drawn, somewhere, yes, Carol is coming, somewhere you're wrong, and you cannot be, you cannot be so arrogant as to believe that you're not wrong, that somebody put together a professional faith a hundred years, a thousand years ago, wherever long ago, and it's perfect. No, it's not. No, it's not. How do I know it's not perfect? If it were perfect, then we all would agree on it, but there's one thing that we all can agree on. One thing, that is, if you place your faith in Christ, if you place your faith in Christ in what he has done, redentively, he has a toning work on the cross whereby he nailed the debt that is owed to the Lord, to God, you shall be saved. If you can believe that, the Bible says you'll be saved. You can know for a fact, you can be saved. Yes, shining meadows, here it comes. So stop going around saying you're this. Now, if you want to say I hold to this sort of belief and then break it down, that's fine, but if you're going to tell me you're a Calvinist, if you're going to tell me you're a Baptist, a Methodist, if you're going to tell me you're a Pentecostal, if you're going to tell me this is what I'm of this, the genitive of, meaning belonging to, and that becomes where you're aligned with your allegiance within Paul says, not that you're not safe, Paul says that's wrong. You haven't given me enough definition though. There's too many nuances that I can parse in there. So I'm interested in learning Greek. You all thought the mic drop was coming. Ah, fooled you guys, I tricked you. I tricked you. I'm interested in learning Greek, just wondering where I should start and how many years it will take. Well, I can't tell you how many years it's gonna take. I'm still learning, it's kind of an ongoing process. By the way, I'm gonna bring in a real life, honest to goodness scholar, who's worked with some of the best scholars. This guy knows his stuff. But I would say this, and then I would say this for everyone else also, if you wanna kind of see how the Greek works and so forth, I would say this, get you in a linear and just see how the difference in the words versus how they're said in English, how they look, okay, it might trigger a desire to want to learn Greek, but if you've already desired that you wanna learn Greek, I would say the best book is William Mount's Basics of Biblical Greek. He's got a book, he's got a workbook also, he's got, where you can look at it, the online edition and so forth. And so when you actually hear him kind of giving the conversation the details, that's a very good one. There's a few others as well, but that's the one that I would recommend. I even have an old edition of Greenland, if you can see it over there. Can you see it, yeah, the green one over there. And then there's some other books that once you get past that, you'll start looking at it like Daniel Wallace's and so forth. Gonna have to get you a good Greek lexicon, the B-Dag, but also, what is the one that I have? Oh, I have the analytical lexicon of the Greek New Testament. Very good lexicon. You wanna have that to go along with the B-Dag. The B-Dag is cumbersome. Can you see this, it's that book over in the corner. The maroon in blue is heavy book. It's a thick, heavy book. You wanna have that, but it's cumbersome. You wanna have an actual, another lexicon to go along with that. So, let's see. Okay, let's see. He says, he is unable to think right thoughts about God. He is unable to feel, okay, see, there we go. Good definition. That's why I don't believe in what you just said. I believe that he is able to think right thoughts. Y'all stop saying that I'm a, that I do believe in. No, I believe that we are able to think right thoughts. I've given examples of man thinking right thoughts in the New Testament and Old Testament. They just could not continually do it. Are you with me? So, the point is guys, and this is really where my heart breaks though. Not really, but metaphorically. I didn't plan this shirt, but again, if you are Christian, make sure that you're not being divisive in the sense that you are not saying that these other people don't get it. So, guys, I wanna thank you. I probably should have had a better mic. I should have dropped a mic earlier, that being the case. Love you guys. Don't call me Calvinist again. If you call me Calvinist again. You call me Calvinist one more time.