 me a question I'm trying to avoid and a topic I tried to avoid but he's got two questions. Oh no one question. What is your opinion of current Mueller-Trump investigation situation? Do you think Elizabeth Warren should have called for impeachment? All right you know I've tried to avoid commenting too much on the Mueller-Trump because I'm so critical of Trump on so many issues that I find you know whatever has been discovered by Mueller just part for the course you know what I would have expected for the kind of behavior that we have seen that we have seen you know from Donald Trump as president. So you know I never thought much of this collusion with the Russians although there was obviously stuff going on in the background with Russia but I never thought that was a big issue but with regard to this obstruction of justice I mean is there any doubt? Is there any doubt given Trump's statements and given Trump's inclinations and given Trump's behavior that he tried to obstruct the investigation and probably in the background that everything he could within the framework of what is you know reasonably legal to stop this investigation I mean sure he did. Is this my main problem with Donald Trump? No I mean he is a pragmatic stand-for-nothing scam-mongering status that's and with with a character with it with it with a really really really bad character he's a he's a obsessive liar a bullshit is better than a liar because as I've said before it's not that he lies in the conventional sense it's a reality doesn't mean anything to him he doesn't care about it one way or the other he says just like a pragmatist would a real pragmatist would whatever he thinks will get him his goal and in that sense he is much more of a pragmatist than I think any other president we've ever seen so he's willing to do whatever so did he want the investigation shunned down did he do what he could to shut down investigation probably yes is this my main objection to Donald Trump no it's one more should Elizabeth want call for his impeachment well what do you mean should she she's running for president in a very crowded democratic field the the the front runner right now by I think quite a bit is a bony Sanders there's this other guy this game gay mayor of a city I can't remember who is getting a huge amount of press and getting a huge amount of visibility and is doing really really well you know we'll see if it lasts we'll see if he has I can't even pronounce his family name so but which gig but but gig but gig anyway he is very affable very charismatic seems to be charming people seems to getting but getting a lot of press I think the press is quite enamored with him and Elizabeth one needs some attention she needs to stand out above the field and just debating me as she has said she would do in September is not gonna get her that attention so she needs to engage in something in in in it's something that will get her onto the front pages of the papers and this is a good thing I mean a lot of the other Democratic leaders are against impeachment they don't think it'll really get them anyway and they think it'll just and I think they're right I think it'll just you know energize Donald Trump's base and just make them a target of his base but you know I don't know I don't you know I'm politics is not my specialty in terms of politics in terms of predicting what the electoral people who vote will do I have no idea but so Elizabeth one is here to try to get some attention and I think she can't lose here right first of all she's in the Senate the Senate is most likely not gonna peach Trump unless some new revelations come out that are that are far more extreme than what we've seen so most action will happen in the house and she's get her names in the paper there's no downside here for her you know then then then to say this it's it's red meat for the base she comes out looking like she's militant and she's really angry and she wants to defend to defend the American people those people at least who want to impeach Trump and you know so again no downside and lots of upside in terms of publicity and I think that's all that matters I mean again the house impeaches that the Senate does this trial kind of thing the Senate still has to vote but the house has to pass it on to the Senate and nothing will happen in the Senate so you know they they can't get rid of the president without both houses by large votes I think Senate has to vote to two-thirds for getting rid of the president to make that happen so ain't happening ain't happening but you know Elizabeth Warren has nothing to lose by doing it