 Welcome to Toffy TV, here is the instant match reaction. Bournemouth for Everton One, Everton out the Carabao Cup. Again, shocken, absolutely shocken. Don't know really where to start. Obviously 11 changes. I don't even know what to say. It was just utterly embarrassing from minute one. The first goal, how the goal he gets is getting lobbed from there. Deflection or not is embarrassing. Second goal. Holgate, Mina and then Keane. How Keane doesn't deal with that is unbelievable. Get a goal back then they go down the other end. And then Patterson half asleep gives the ball away for them to score the fourth. It was just so easy, ridiculously easy. I think in terms of the situation this season's honeymoon period for the manager is well and truly over. It will be interesting to see what happens if Everton were to get beat again on Saturday by Bournemouth. And whatever consequences that would cause. Everton are not good enough to make that many changes. They made what they made, seven or eight changes as well. But to bring 11 players in who haven't done anything or played the back three who haven't played. He was always going to make changes of course. He was with the injuries and stuff but it just shows without Conoco, without Tarkowski, how bad we are. We'd be easily bottom of the table without those two players. We really would. And again now with the other end, two shots on target all night. It's despicable. I don't even know what the right way is. It's just awful, awful. That's the general theme for the whole team whether they'd be the first, 11, second, 11. The set pieces are absolutely abysmal. I don't know how, I don't know how you get away with that. I really don't. The one strength you can have as a club who can't score goals is set pieces and they are absolutely woeful. That's the first thing I just point out when I look at any performance of any team. I look at set pieces, I look at teams that are very good and how they keep themselves in games. It's a threat of set pieces and we don't have it. That to me is just a big, big part of the game. Some of those players, and we say this every year, some of those players can go into the side while it's the first choice and can go in and do a job. But when you put them all together, they can't. Obviously, the back three is a big example of that. Players who all three haven't played for ages and it showed tonight. They were all so far off the pace. Michael Keane was abysmal. Hallgeith was meaner. They looked abysmal. I think a lot of people will be looking at Frank Lampard and thinking tonight where maybe they've been on the fence or maybe they've been thinking, oh, I don't know, given time and all that. There might be people tonight who think, I don't know. If Saturday comes and we get beat and we end up in the bottom three, then some people might be thinking it's time for him to go, time to change the manager. But as I said, you could point your fingers at everyone tonight. The Tom Davis miss was incredible. He was very, very poor tonight. Anthony Gordon, I thought, was poor. Patterson, I thought, was all right in the first half, but looked awful as the game went on. He took James Garner off, he looked all right. I think the reason he took James Garner off is because he's playing on Saturday. That's what I would imagine he's playing on Saturday. Because I couldn't think of any other reason why you would take him off. But I think he'd be playing on Saturday. The subs give us a little bit of impetus, so obviously Greg getting the goal and I will be. It was better, but if you're going to... I've seen something actually Michael Ball put something on Twitter before. Ex-Evident, no, opera singer. And he said, if you're not going to take the competition seriously, then just play the kids. And you know what? He's got a point, isn't he? Because every year we do this, every year we do this. We play the second string team. And every year we play, we do that. And this is what happens. Just on Tom Davis, a lot of criticism in the comments, I can see that. Was Tom Davis not brilliant in the major at Derby? You know what I mean? Did he not have a good game in the major? Tom Davis is, and I'll say this, and I'll stand by this, I've got no problem with it. Tom Davis is a player you can drop into the first team. And he'll do a decent job. He'll do a decent job. You put him in there tonight and he was shite. He was absolutely shite when there's shite around him. When he's just dropped into the team like he was in the Mayside Derby, he's fine. He'll do a job. When you ask him to do a job, he'll do a job. When you put him in a team like tonight, he's not good enough. And that's because of the collective of the team. I mean, again, I've said this a million times. People went Tom Davis as a bad game. People jump on him. But when Tom Davis has a good game, no one wants to talk about it. So, yeah, he was terrible tonight. Absolutely terrible. But go back to the Mayside Derby. I'm remembering the Mayside Derby when he was excellent for an hour before you start just jumping on him. So is he good enough? Now he's not good enough for the 11-13. And you put him in a team like that, he's garbage. Is he a squad player? Yes, he's a squad player. Simple as that. But again, loads of people love doing this. They jump on players when they're terrible and they completely forget about when they have decent games. And it happens with Tom all the time. So, you know, he will, if you've got better plays, he will organically leave the football club. He'll probably go in his squad when his contact ends. The same as the likes of the Corey, Will as well. I don't think he's got any future yet. He's got no future. Michael Keane's got no future. I don't think Van Agri is anywhere good enough. So I think we need a new left back. Interesting that we were linked with Luke Shaw today. That's interesting from the manager's point of view. Maupai, I don't think it's good enough. Dwight MacNeill, I don't think it's good enough. As players to play in any side. Tom Davis, is he a squad? He's just a squad player. Fine, no arm. End of his contact to make a decision. Is he good enough? No, he's not good enough. He's not good enough if everyone want to get higher. But loads of the team are not good enough. It's as simple as that. Loads of the team are not good enough. Loads of the first team is not good enough. Anthony Gordon, dreadful tonight. It was just a terrible, terrible night. A terrible night, terrible game. And we're waiting to see. The manager said after the game, hoping that Onan will be able to play, be fit for the weekend. And hopefully Ghana will be fit for the weekend. And. Oh, now he says, and but he says, Dominic Harvill doing would be, he'd be very surprised if he's fit for the weekend. So. Um. It was dreadful, absolutely dreadful. And again, defending. I'm not, I'm not massively. I look at that and I think those players are not, are not going to play for us. So I'm not overly concerned about that. I'm not concerned about yet. He mean it because he's not going to be here. It's the second choice goalie. Um. Hullgate is a bench player. We've got Godfrey to come back to our Cowskine Cody. It's the forward line that is just massively considering me because we can. No one can score goals. Nobody would don't have goalscores. Again, we've missed sitters tonight. Tom Davis has missed the sitter. Anthony Gordon has missed the sitter. Um. And people go with a V scored back goal. Same on sat. Sat. He's scored that chance. Not scoring that chance. Those chances. Not taking those chances. They were. They were two sitters in the first half to not only get us back into the game, but to take the lead. Um. And as I said before, Michael Keane. Michael Keane. Michael Ball saying, why not just play the kids? You might as well. That's all they did tonight. They just played the kids. They just played the kids tonight. And they were. I know they're not. Not necessarily. Um. Like they've all their youngsters from squad plays in there, but they were youthful. We just looked like a bunch of tired players who know that they passed their evidence where they were younger. They had younger players who were on the up. And that's the difference. Why not just play the young players? But without it was dreadful. And if the same happens on Sunday. A saty, sorry saty, then it's going to be interesting. Um. Put massive amount of pressure on the club. The manager. Kevin fell. Well, because the simple fact is we need new players. We if we don't get new players, it's going to be like that. Season. And I don't know. I honestly don't know if the fans. Well, I don't know whether whether we'd be able to do that again. And I don't mean that in like, can we conjure up that again? I think if that was to happen again, there would be a lot of anger. A lot of anger. Um. In the fan base. Um. If we had to do that back to back. I don't know whether. The fans could do that. Um. Because it's when you see performances like that. When you see Saturday. This. The. The issues are so glaring. The issues are so just so glaring. Um. We can keep buying. Of course we can keep buying. What alternative do we have? What else? The. Our football players are not good enough. I don't know. I don't think Frank Lampard is a good enough coach to turn these players into. Players who are going to score goals. That means we have to buy players. We have to. And if that means selling Anthony Gordon, sell Anthony Gordon. I'm not asked. He doesn't do anything. So just sell him. You know. It's about the people. What makes you laugh is when people go. Oh no, you know no money or blah blah blah. We spent 35 million on Mopai and McNeill. And they're not good enough. And this is what winds me up when. When there's like oh. There's money or whatever. We spent 85 players on 25 million pound on two players who were just not good enough. So that's a failing of the club. So they need to sort that out. They need to sort that out massively otherwise. We're being trouble. We're being trouble as I said. I don't think. I don't think fans will be. We'll get behind the team or the manager like they did at the end of the season. Because there'll be so much anger. There'll be. I know fans will be there. Don't get me wrong. But. There'll be so much anger. I've seen this. I know there's a gap. But I remember like 94. And then I remember 98 and 98 was just anger. I know there's a bigger gap between that. But. The stress. Fans can't just can't go through that again. And we need to sort that out. And we need to sort it out in January. And if that means selling players. If that means selling Anthony Gordon. If that means selling. I don't know. Whoever just getting plays off the books and do it. If it means getting rid of. Obviously getting rid of Michael Keane and getting rid of Yeri Meanyn. People like that getting off the wedge. You've got to do it. You've just got to do it. Simple as that. Just just just. Just dreadful. Just absolutely dreadful at tonight. So. I don't know. I don't know what more to say. You could. You could. I could combust. With with with War of Watch. But I'll be honest. I'm not that angry. I'm just. I just look at it and just think. I'm just sad. I'm just sad. Everton just make me feel sad. It's as simple as that. They don't. You know. I'm not going to get. I'm not going to start being. Mental about it and going kicking off a bar. They just make me feel sad. I don't. Don't get any. Does anyone get any joy out of Everton? Apart from. You know going out to away games and. And. And that kind of thing. You know. I just don't get any joy out of it. Out of it at all. And I know people. I've been getting on like, you know, Frank. Frank Lampard saying and all that. I just don't think it's real. I really don't. Because we haven't replaced Richard Harrison. And if you've got no goals. There's only one place you don't know. Barely. Barely didn't concede that many goals last season. They went down. They were decent at the back. They went down. That's it. If you can't score goals, you do not stay in this league. And you know, I know tonight's another Premier League game. But. If you can't score goals, we not only do we not score goals. We don't hit the target. Not only do we not hit the target. We don't create like set pieces or anything. Do you know what I mean? So. The set. I can't get over how bad the set pieces are. The real. We tried one in the first half. And we tried a short one. And I think it led to them having like nearly getting down the other end. And the mentality is the team of the team is if you make 11. If you make. If you make 11 changes. To a team, then what are you expecting? Are you expecting? Are you taking the competition seriously? If you make 11 changes. When there's only one more game for six weeks. Do you really, really care about that competition? If. You make 11 changes. Really? With one game to go. And that tells you just the mentality of the football. There's two trophies we can win. And. We're not number one. We've just gone. We're not asked about this one. And then by the time it genuinely rolls around and the pressure starts mounting. You do the same in that as well. So. There. Just garbage. I just sit near in disbelief just watching it. Going there's this, this. Borm of teams beating Everton for one. And, and, and that, you know, I'm not even sitting here saying. I'm not, you know, you can be angry by the way. You can say, oh, and I have done in the past way. They changed the team and you put it all on the manager. They was ever, that ever team should have been, should have been, should have been able to beat. The Borm of team, really. But we don't because we're not good enough. And where's they've all got players fighting to get in the first team. All our players basically know they're not getting anywhere near the first team. Apart from a couple. So. Very, very sad. Very, very sad. Felt to me a little bit like the Wofford game last season. They felt a bit like the Wofford game where I don't know. You know when you just see that little switch and I've seen this at Wofford last season. Where you see that little switch in people. Where do you go from one thing to another? And we all know what that one thing to another is. So, and I've seen that tonight because a lot of people just looking at going. This is hilarious. And the sad thing is, you know, regardless of the score, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Once your team, and this isn't the first year. Once your team. Or your club. Sorry. Decide that it's not really that interested in winning things. Then what's the point? What is the point? And this is the problem with. This is the problem with the Premier League now is that 14 teams in the Premier League. It's all about just surviving. It's all about just staying in the Premier League. It's just about staying in the Premier League. And that's way one of them, obviously. So, therefore, cup competition, you don't need to take serious anymore. Because you're like, well, city will probably win it. And if city don't win it, Liverpool will win it. And that's that's that's it now. They did the same thing. They were home. They were at home. And they've got a, you know, their home on satty against us. And they made all their changes. So they were exactly the same. So we can. I'm not putting. I'm not putting losing on changing by any of the changes, by the way. It's the mentality of the club mentality. The players are coming to the team. It's the mentality of making 11 changes is acceptable. Those 11 players should have still been able to win. But it's still the mentality of it doesn't matter. And it's run through this club for years. Run through this club for years. And it seems to infect the managers and the players. And it doesn't matter if they're new players. And it doesn't matter if there is a new manager. It just seems to infect them all. Because it's just this thing of it's all right. It's actually why Conor Cody and Talkowski are slightly different. Because they don't seem to accept it. They have that mentality of we want to win. We want to keep clean sheets. But most of the rest of the team don't. And you've seen that tonight. Michael Keane is an embarrassment. The difference between him and the rest of our play. And Talkowski on Conor Cody is just huge. Just huge. That mentality of we do not want to let these score. You've seen that tonight with our whole defence. You've seen that tonight with our whole defence. You know, we don't do that. We don't play. The pitch looked really, really slippy. And we're playing the ball off on the back. Where a player's got a tane. And when he tanes, he slips. Because he's got a tane. That doesn't happen. That doesn't happen when you've got proper defenders on. So listen. Saddi now is. It's not huge. It's not huge. I don't think in terms of like. You don't go. Is it a must win? Well, maybe it is. But I think for just. I think for a sake of our. Mental side of a lot of us. We need to get something out of Saturday. Because if we get beat. And we end up in the bottom three for six weeks. Then there's a lot of time to fill. And a lot of people will be filling that time. Asking questions about the manager. And what's going on at the football club. Yeah, so. So let's hope we can get something on Saturday. Let's hope we, you know. The same fans will be back down there again. And. We've got to get something. The attitude's got to be completely different. I think it will from a majority of the players. But. It's something we've got to get out. Get something out of this got to be a response. From these three last three, you know. Last three games. First half was all right. Second half was a bit more. But. As I said, no one can. No one can really hold the heads high tonight. Ghana was all right. And while he was all right when he came on. But. Van Agri was all right. Into his crossing was fine. Only he was terrible as such. But. Everybody else was just dead full keeper. The three centre backs. Tom Davis. Mopai. I didn't even know Dwight MacNeill was on the pitch. I must admit. I didn't even know he was on the pitch. Dead full. Absolutley dead full. There you go. I don't even know whether I can do a player. Because I'm just. But anyway, there you go. Yeah. So yeah. Make sure to check out. 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