 Are there, um, from your experiences, do you see any agency cultures that may be more favorable to small businesses? Um, honestly, they they all seem to be I think I think they all are because They all have no they all have small business goals that they have to meet and at the very highest levels of the government They're held accountable to whether or not they met those goals. Now. It's interesting to say that because I've been to Certain industry events where they said well, these are just goals. They're not requirements So we're not required to meet them. Okay. So you can you a goal is a very, um, what's the word? We highly highly encourage that you do this because if you don't meet the goal So I can just tell you from a dod perspective. Yeah, let's do the do the agencies that are not meeting their goals osd Are you know held accountable to osd and they have to answer questions to osd about why they fail to meet goals in certain areas And no commander or you know head of a procurement operation wants to have to that's just not something They want to have to address or deal with and every agency has housed within their um housed within their agency The small business we call them small business reps, but the folks in the osd office who's I mean That's their primary goal and objective to ensure that the agency meets Is small business goals and to to the extent possible to form relationships with industry with small businesses That are capable and qualified and to ensure that you know that pool of qualified vendors is made Aware of to the contracting officer Okay, okay. Okay. No, that's good to know that's and that's the thing you can't I mean you can never account for a rogue Either program officers or contracting officers who but but generally I mean that yeah, it's a goal, but it's a very strongly encouraged that you meet gold because there are Consequences we're not meeting them. No, no and and maybe as an agency as a whole they may meet their goals, right? and that just that particular division or you know, I guess sub Agency maybe not but there's a you know as a whole They may ultimately meet the goal, but I just again just things that I've heard that I just want to kind of get confirmation on