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I haven't seen you in person in a minute. You've been exaggerating. Yeah, like, I'm really disappointed that you're weak. You act like you've got back big, big, big, big at all. Which I don't understand is I've lost 30 pounds. Since you said that. Yeah, like, I'm on Majaro. Is that Ozempic? Ozempic, yeah. So the weight's just been falling off. It's like the diabetes picture, right? Yeah, sticking it in your motherfucking stomach. Why is it called Majaro? There's two different ones. There's like the Pepsi and Coke of fat nigga shit. So it's like, phew. It's not fat, bro. Let it go. You guys stop. You want to be fat so bad, bro. Let it go. So it's like, but Ozempic is one. You even described it with some shit that makes you fat. No, but seriously, I was going to the gym and working out really super hard. And I'm getting older, so the diet had to change. And so I got on that and I've been losing weight. I'm in the gym every day, though. Everybody on that shit. I know Matt, I'll be seeing people and I'll be like, yo, what's up, man? You look good. You been working out? You vegan? And we're like, nah, I'm on that pin. Yeah, yeah. I'm serious, man. I don't want to say no names because I'm not going to do that. One person in particular, I really thought I was like happy for them. And they like, nah, I'm on that pin. And I'm like, oh, shit. What are the side effects, though? They can be fucked up. So at first, the side effects, you just get nauseous and stuff. But as the dosage has gone up, nigga, be a little constipated. Sometimes you can get a little depressed. Really? Yeah, but I'm used to it now. What do you do when you're constipated? Bruh. Put his thumb up his ass. I was about to ass, though. Hey, hey, hey, no bullshit, though? No bullshit, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Normally you're about to go there. Normally you could just, like, just wait it out. And then it ends up coming out. OK. But a couple of days ago, I had this Ghost Brothers interview. And it was supposed to start at 11. What's, is that like the Black Ghostbusters movie? The Black Ghostbusters movie. No. Dude. The Black Ghostbusters movie. The Ghostbusters movie. The Ghostbusters movie. The Ghostbusters movie. Did they make a Black Ghostbusters movie? No, they had the Ghostbusters movie. The Ghostbusters have a show when they're dead. It's not even ghosts. It's just police. They're afraid of ghosts. They're taking over the neighborhood. What are we going to do? They're black eyes and they see paranormal shit. And so the interview was supposed to start at 11, but I was on the toilet. And it just, it wouldn't. And so I actually had to get something to grease it up. I had to get some coconut oil and go in there and help it move out of it. You did put your thumb up your ass. Had to put my thumb on my ass. God damn, man. We ain't even five minutes in, bro. Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I had to get the coconut oil. This is great. I had to get the coconut oil. I wish we had a camera on everybody in here. Everybody in here. We do. Wait a minute. First of all, this is the type of shit I don't like. Everybody in here has been constipated before. I was about to say, everybody in here, Jim, they fist up their ass. Everybody in here has been constipated before. I had to take it away, bro. But it wasn't going to happen. So I had to take the coconut oil, go around the edges, and it came out. And then after I looked at it, I was like, God damn. By the way, did that shit work? Can you really make your butt throw up? That shit really worked. Why? Putting your finger in your butt? Like, how you put your finger on your throat? No. Bro. OK. Butt throw. It's not like your butt throw up. I didn't think of my ass. I just made my butt throw up, bro. It's not your butt throw up. So make your butt throw up. Your turtle heading, right? Your sphincter. Like, your sphincter. And it's like, it's poking out. And you know it's not. So you just want to let it. So I had to go. Crazy thing was the coconut oil was in the other room. Yeah. So I had to like, walk. Get the fuck out of here. I had to. This is a true story. With it poking out? It was poking out. Yeah. So it was poking out, but you couldn't get the whole thing out. It was. It was too painful. Was something else in there? Shut the fuck up. No, I'm being serious. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Wait. That's where you stop. You said, wait. What? You massaged the ass. My ass is going to be in my ass, except for shit. You know what I'm saying? So what else? Nothing else could be in there. And since then, I've been taking Meralax. You just got to deal with it. Oh, the Meralax gets it through. Meralax. Y'all hoping to give him up for Diabetics though, man. Say it again. Because the medicine has skyrocketed for actual Diabetics. 1,500 a pop. Not this one. Not the Majoro. Not the Majoro. The other one is 1,500 a pop. Shockingly easy to get. Really? Went in there, I thought that the doctor was going to, you know, take blood and do the whole deal. No. He just looked at you and was like, yeah, yeah. 1,000 dollars, man. Do they know what people are using it for? Do they know people are using it to lose weight? Yeah. Yeah. 100%. So when you took that shit that you had to coconut oil your ass room for, did anything... That's not funny. Coconut oil your ass room sounds like oil up your ankle. You know what the funny thing is? What? What's the funny thing? It's not funny, man. In years past, this is the funny thing. That's not even how I did it. Oh, you went by it like that? Yeah, I spread the... I went the other way. In years past... You twerked yourself? In years past, I would have been embarrassed, but I had to coconut oil my ass. Why would you be embarrassed? Don't be embarrassed, bro. The shit came out and then I'm like, I got to change. I got to do something different because this can't happen. Yeah, you can't be coconut oil in your ass room. And it was all rocky when it was in the toilet. Coconut oil, your ass sounds sexy. Come on, come on, Sean. I did something gay to my ass. It's like spades, you know what I'm saying? That was a little Trump. I put the big Trump card down. Happy to have you, though, man. Yo, it's great, man. And it's great that you're losing weight. You look fantastic, man. Thank you, feeling good lifting weights doing the whole nine, doing it for Dad, you know? Yeah, we're resting in peace. It's not lost on us that you're here. You know, the second day after the right of strike. You don't have anything else to do. Yo. That is a good ass point. You know what I mean? Second day after the right of strike. Whole town shut down, bro. Fear, palpable fear in Los Angeles. Why? Because think about any other city that has a major industry that's the life blood of that industry. That's true. The life blood of Los Angeles, like making those types of things go. And so, when there's a glitch like this, everybody gets a little bit, like, impatient, like, scared because this affects everything, right? Can you explain what the strike is about and what the writers are fighting for? They want more money. I think it's specific. Streaming residual. Yeah, and explain why that's important and how the transition to streaming has kind of created... I don't want to speak too much for some of the people who could probably articulate it a little bit better, but as television has moved, a couple of things have changed. One thing has changed is the residuals and the way that you make your money off the residuals. And residuals, once again, are like, once a show, when an episode gets played again, be it on the same channel or other channels, you're getting a fee every single time. You get a fee every single time. And then when things go on streaming, there's no longer that fee every single time. And then not only is there no longer that fee every single time, right? But also remember that the streaming companies are cagey with their analytics. They don't even tell you the amount of streams. Not so many. So you can't even get money in the way that artists get money on Spotify plays because you don't know how many plays the episodes get. I wonder about that with TV, too. Do they get paid per scream on TV? Well, there's a way that the residuals are calculated and formulated, but with streaming it's a completely different thing. It's all for some people that just aren't any. They just buy it out entirely. Right. And then secondly, it's harder to track it because like we all know all of that information of all the streaming and all of that, the performance is proprietary. They don't have to share it with you. So they're trying to change that. And also there's something else with the writer's room. Like let's say we're all doing a show, right? We're going to have a writer's room. There might be 10 people in, you know, if you've had writers, you've been in writer's room before. Now it's kind of like if we're doing a show and only the three of us want to write it, then we might do like a mini room. And that room might only be three or four people, two or three people that are going to write the entire show. And the writers don't like that because the less people there are in the room, the less opportunities there are for people. So they're talking about that. That should have changed drastically over the past year. I'm sorry, did you get like a facial or something? No. It's amazing, right? You look incredible. Thank you. Dr. Natasha Sandy, baby. You know what's happening? You see me out here in these streets. You know what I mean? Thank you. Did you do this because Van was coming? No, Dr. Sandy, I saw Dr. Sandy two weeks ago. I saw Dr. Sandy two weeks ago. She can't get me a little chemical pill, you know what I mean? Got my products back, you know? You haven't been off of them? Well, I hadn't been using them. I didn't have any. I hadn't seen her. I talked to her, but I hadn't seen her. She was looking like driftwood. So it's nice there. So it's nice that you're shining like you are today. Like a couple of episodes, I was like, man, he just stopped giving a fuck. He's just going, he's not fighting a little bit. He's going to let the new set do the work. I don't see my people. Dr. Natasha Sandy. But man, dude, I had to like insult you based on how, to balance how fucking great you look today, dude. This is insane. You know, the writer's room has changed so much because like even with the first season of my talk show, writer's room was way bigger. Second season, absolutely not. So you saw this coming. The thing that scares me about the writer's crack this time is the language that the writers are trying to get in there about chat GPT. I told you about that. In AI? Basically, you can't have AI right shows. And they said no. So what did that tell you? It's coming. The stuff that my friends in the guild have been telling me about. That's the most shocking thing. They said, hey, we want to make sure that there are guardrails against having AI right scripts. And the fucking studio said no. You know why? Because they're going to have AI right scripts. It's just like taxis and Ubers, bro. You know what I mean? Of course the taxi commissioner was like make Uber illegal because that's your job. But there could be somebody that comes out and replaces it. It might not be a great time to crack because they take a little bit too long. You know, you get a hit show from a chat GPT or an AI. Game over. That might actually be real bloodshed in Los Angeles in some way if they cyber all of those people. Everything in Los Angeles is affected by this. If there's less money to go around, there's less money for the valets at these restaurants, there's less money for the drivers that don't have to take people, there's less money for the chefs. It's all one big huge thing. You've got to look at Hollywood in the same way that college towns. Same thing. Where is Alabama? Tuscaloosa. Without the University of Alabama, is Tuscaloosa even a functional city? I'm from Baton Rouge. Without LSU? In and around the stadium. 10,000s of jobs 10,000s who's directly it's all the bars, all the restaurants. That's Hollywood. Like Disney World of Florida. You kind of calculate that whole thing. So it's going to be tough. And it got tough in 2007 or whatever before when it happens, it's going to be tough now. And how long will this strike go for? I mean, they said, I've been here in three months, but they said if it goes for three months, then that'll bring us into the fall. Until January. This one is going to last a long time because I don't even see how they figure out the residuals for the screenmanship. This is going to be crazy, but it's also great opportunity if you want to write a movie or write a TV show, there are going to be guys that are striking that you would never be able to get because they're working on the highest level TV shows, highest level films and you could be like, hey, we have three months. Do you want to build something together independently? You might have some time for you. So there's an opportunity for writers to actually do their passion projects while they're striking. I thought they're not allowed to write. They're not allowed to do unsag things, but you can't tell someone not to write. You could write on a project. There's some stuff I'm working on right now and they like pistols down, don't hit me on it. Even though it's not contractually obligated, it's just a few people. People are going to work. But I like, literally, we got something right now at a place and we were scrambling to get everything in place for May 1st because after that, we couldn't do nothing. Yeah, I mean, it's like that. I mean, I'm part of the WGA, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I'm trying to figure out what I'm even going to be doing because I'm supposed to do the Daily Show the week of May 15th. Oh, they fucked that up. But listen, we're improv, baby. We can go in there with... And just rest. Hey, word. Yeah. I know. You're part of the WGA, GBT plus Q. Shut up. I voted. I mean, I voted on whether or not this great. And did you vote strike? Yeah. Nigga, it don't sound like you voted strike. It was a little hesitation on that vote, y'all. I'm like, you're about to be... I don't think that's private. I'm getting me number one with the whole... It don't seem like you voted strike. I'm gonna get y'all striking J.U.N. June. Well, I got you on the fucking Daily Show. I voted yes. I'll tell you this though. This is a great time. This is a great opportunity for podcasts. Talk to me. I'm gonna tell you why. We live in an era, usually when these strikes happened, like 2007 was like the rise of reality show TV, right? Because everybody had to go get on scripted content. And you'll probably see a lot more reality shows now. Think about people like brilliant idiots, you know, think about people like drink champs, you know. All of these places, Harborsons, these people that already record content. You're right. You know what I'm saying? You can license your content to these networks now. If I was some of these networks, that would be the smart thing to do, right? We give people three hours of content a week, well, two hours of content a week, right? You take that content, 22-minute shows, put it on your networks. Same way that BET and VH1 and the Breakfast Club every morning. You can do the same thing with podcasts. It would make sense to me, you know? I remember back in the day, I used to watch Howard Stern's show on E. And it was a flamethrower. It was like a 30-minute episode condensed down to the best part. That's right. If you had network like Comedy Central, go get a comedy podcast. No brainer. If you're a VH1, you go get a horrible decision, whatever it is. There's so much content out here that they could just be licensed to put on their networks. 100%. And that'll help podcasts in general. And it doesn't even need to stop the podcast. You basically go, yo, can we do a condensed version of that show you already do, you already put it out? That's right. All of these different, you know... And you have access to the talent. I saw something this morning where Gwynth Paltrow was doing an interview where she's talking about Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt. Like, that's the kind of content... Who? Who podcasted you? I can't remember what she said. I think it was Carla Daddy. And that's the type of stuff because you're going to have access to those people. That's right. I think Ben Affleck is, yeah, breaking that down. Better than Brad? Brad's soft. He's a hater. Brad's a better kisser. I think Brad's a better kisser, but I think Ben Affleck will just, yeah, split lips. He's like, you know, he don't add or all that shit. Yeah, y'all give Ben Affleck too much credit. He ruined two superheroes, bro. He ruined Daredevil and fucking Batman. Ben Affleck was bomb as Batman. Yeah, Ben Affleck is great as Batman. Because y'all don't know old Batman. Yeah, the movies weren't good. Y'all don't know old Batman as Batman. He wasn't good neither. No, he was nice. It was a graphic novel by... The graphic Batman novel by... Frank Miller. It was phenomenal. I actually would have liked that they grade him up a little bit more. So Frank Batman's then. Who's the number one Batman of all time? Christian Bale. I'm a little... Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton or Christian Bale? If you really go and re-watch that old Batman... Then old school Batman... Ben is the worst Batman. No, not to me. You're acting crazy. Who's Batman is he better than? Definitely better than George Clooney. No, really don't be knowing what the fuck you're talking about. He ain't better than... He ain't better than Clooney. Fucking Clooney was in the Batcave cooking up Casamigos, bruh. He's the number one Batman of all time for that and that alone. Fuck outta here, y'all are crazy. This is fucking crazy with no reason. Let's say who do we got. Robin Patterson definitely better than Ben Affleck. Keanu Reeves played Batman. When the fuck did Keanu Reeves play Batman? Oh, that on count. Adam West, oh shit. Yo, Val Kilmer is Batman. When the fuck did Val Kilmer play Batman? Batman forever. You didn't watch Batman, bro. No, I don't fuck with DC. What are you talking about? Where's the pod, bro? I'm talking fine. Listen, why do I gotta be the one that know what you're talking about? All these podcasts that just out here motherfuckers just shat me shit. Saying whatever. I gotta be held to a higher standard. I wanna be average. Intimacy. Like every other podcast. Okay? Okay? Tell me to step my fucking game up in the podcast. Tell me what happened with Ebony. Gently. Yeah, tell me what happened gently with Ebony. What happened with Ebony? I really don't even know no more, man. Y'all are crazy. We gotta go back to what she said with Ayonla. But she had a 23-minute interview with Ayonla. I didn't see the 23 minutes. I just saw the clip about the bus driver. It says women have off standards for men in this society because some won't date a bus driver due to social status. I dated a bus driver if he loved driving the bus. Who said that? Ayonla. Play the clip. I know that you've said that you cannot teach a man so I will not ask you to indict men in this question. But I do want you to speak, Ayonla, to how women need to I don't know, position ourselves so that we can be in our divinity so we can have our crowns right, how we can create and not build when some of us quite frankly feel that the men that are available to us, and I'm talking about across the color spectrum, across the age spectrum, trust me, I've done them all, they are not positioned to protect nor provide because of some of the statistics we just talked about. They're not earning the incomes. They're not having the resources and some of them are not even showing up in the leadership. Would you date a bus driver? If he owns the bus. If he owns it. If he owns the bus. That's a problem. That's a problem. Because the standards and requisites, and I'm not talking about him laying on his sofa playing video games all day. I'm not talking about that. But the standards and the criteria that we use to measure men is off for who we are as women and who they are in this society. I would date a bus driver if he was, if he loved driving the bus, if he was a man of integrity, if he was good to his mama, if he treated me well, I would date a bus. So there's only a minute and 30 seconds of that. What's your thoughts? I love that. I'm with you. I mean, I think I think what Ebony explained in that clip with her preference, and that's her preference. No, but I think it's, I think what is her name Ayanna? I think it's beautiful that she did it. I think Ayanna said it was great. No, I think it's beautiful she's lying. I support her ability to lie and loves driving the bus, Sharla. Bus drivers. You about to shit on everyday working class people. Her caveat was as long as he loves driving the bus. There's a million people that love driving buses. I mean, they love their job. They love their job. But takes pride in their job. Have you ever seen a custodian that goes around the building singing and he's happy and he says hi to everybody and folks are happy to see him? In all seriousness. You ever got on a bus with a person that's driving and he's like, yo, I'm mad. I'm joking obviously. I love that she says this and I think that she'll have much happier relationships in her life. I genuinely believe that. Listen, I don't want to be too personal about Ebony but like, does Ebony have any kids? Yeah. I don't take advice on relationships from people who don't have relationships that I want. Sure. I have respect for Ebony but if I'm a woman I don't want to be in my 40s with no children. She's not in her 40s. She's in her 30s. I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm sure there's a lot of women that are looking at Ebony going like, you doing all this work searching for a not bus driver and here you are alone or whatever and it's like there's a lot of women that... There's a lot of women that... But there's mad women who actually relate to Ebony. I'm not saying there aren't. And I think that there are... Matter of fact, play this clip. Play this clip. Taylor probably deleted her comment that she left on this clip. Play the clip. Play this clip, Taylor. Play the clip. Come on, Taylor. What was that from? Taylor? What was that from? Of course. So I'm going to say one more time. There's absolutely nothing wrong with driving a bus. My mother Gloria drove one for years. But could it be that Black America has been sold a narrative of average, regular, and typical being good enough for us? Well see, that's called white supremacy. And in this case, it takes the form of conditioning Black Americans to happily accept being a permanent American class. But see, because I know the truth about Black folk in America, no, average is not and will never be good enough for me. And the gag is, I don't think it's good enough for you either. Bro, I got to say one thing. I've never seen this tactic used by a Black person on Black people. I've seen the... I've seen the... if you disagree with me, you racist, Andrew, you haven't been paying attention. We use it on each other all the time. Yeah, but I tried to stay away from you guys. No, but that is a wild... Can I be honest with you? Yeah. That is significantly worse than what she said at first. Like, significantly worse. First of all, there's a couple of things here. And this clip, too, she said this clip is actually four minutes. I haven't seen the four minutes. So I love Eminie Kay Williams. I think she's entitled to date whoever she wants to date and have whatever standards that she wants to date for that first. This right here, though, there's a couple of things. Number one, societies are most definitely definitely backboneed by the average people. Absolutely. That is one thousand percent. And one reason why we can't seem to prioritize the middle class in America is because we're too busy demonizing what it means to be middle class. We're too busy acting as if somebody who has a job... Who do you think fought all those wars? It's the bus drivers that fight the wars. It's not these rich motherfuckers that she wants to date or these other people that want to date. It's the bus drivers. It's the plumbers. It's the electricians. They're out there when shit gets put... What is it? When shit hits the fan. When shit hits the fan, when push comes to shove, we ask all those people that she's saying have undesirable jobs to go out there and risk their fucking life so we can speak English. No, we... Shut the fuck up. But you know what the crazy thing is? We're saying that as if it's some sort of hypothetical... No, we just did that. Throughout the pandemic... We just did that. Throughout the pandemic when what we were doing was shut down, it was the people that were going to work for takeout places, at Walmart, doctors, nurses, all of those people that became the backbone of a functioning American society. They didn't become. They were. They already were. We leaned on them and then as soon as it was over, they completely forgot about it. We totally forgot about it. So just kind of after that kind of seeing this whole narrative again, it's just like we never learned nothing. I think that the problem with the reasoning is there's a... She acts as if there's like a gate to enter the dating and that gate is financial. Would you want your partner to make tons of money? Would I like it if my wife made $50 million a year? That'd be awesome. Right? As I'm sure she would like it if I did. Are there ten other criteria that are actually more important to me and should be more important to you when it comes to picking a mate? Yes. So I like the other ladies' response. Ayon Lavanzant. Ayon Lavanzant's response which was like if he loves driving a bus, but if he's also good to his mother, if he loves me, if he cares about me, those things are more valuable. What if he likes driving a bus because he actually likes coaching high school football? To focus as much as he possibly can on those kids. He's not, you know, grading tests and doing all that other stuff. He's driving to school, driving them home, and then he's dedicating his fucking life to those kids. That's beautiful. That documentary called Counterpunch. It was about Chris Colbert, the boxer. He was like 140, 147. The dude who was his coach... Brooklyn kid, isn't it? Brooklyn kid, yeah. The dude who was his coach had a day job like putting the fucking wire in the ground and he would do that job so that he could be off at five o'clock so that he could then work with baby Beehop after that so he would have his evenings free. People have all kinds of things that they like to do. People have all kinds of... Happiness is a success is subjective. Success is whatever makes you happy. You know what I mean? And I can never call somebody average mediocre or typical who's doing something that they love to do. I think what her point was if you're not miserable doing it because if you drive the bus all day long and you like this fucking bus, these fucking people I hate them. Will you bring that into your relationship? You're going to bring that home to your family. Don't date a miserable person. I spoke to Ebony and that's what she's saying. She's saying that she's trying to encourage people especially black men to just do better basically. To not just settle with what she considers to be mediocre by average. You think the black dudes are just settling with it? I don't. But here's the thing. I don't even think it's a race thing. I think it's about good old fashioned capitalism. I think we're talking about the 1% and the 99%. I don't think that people need more motivation. I think people want to be more successful. They want to be more rich. They want to do these other things. What they want to do is provide for it by being a bus driver or some other job that she describes as mediocre or typical but they can do these other things and live a great well balanced life. They are happy and there's nothing wrong with that and honestly a lot of girls should check that out because they're going to be way happier in that relationship than the billionaire that's cheating on them with fucking pussy out there in Dubai every single weekend. Actually you know what, I think people need motivation to come back to the mean and to put the mics down. Stop fucking rapping. Go get a trade. Become a barber. Learn how to be a mechanic. I think people need motivation to turn Instagram and the rest of this shit off that's not going to pop for you and understand that you can still go to the Laker game have a great life, send your kids to a great college and all of that and do all of that by having a great job that might not be able to buy I think America has this sick obsession with celebrity and I think celebrities sometimes overestimate their position in society. Because we're not doing anything special. We are sitting here on these microphones talking, laughing, having a good time, barely knowing what we're talking about. Do you think that we are more significant than somebody in the military? Are we more significant than law enforcement? Are we more significant than... Stop. I'm just saying like the engineers, architects, they probably look at us and be like average motherfuckers, you know what I mean? By the way, it's definitely kids definitely kids out there that's busting their ass in school and they get in the scenes. They're just dumb. I'm just being for real. She was like as long as you work hard, there's a kid somewhere that's busting their ass that bring home scenes. I know this may surprise y'all. I was never an A student. That doesn't surprise anybody. How dare the person I know was getting D say that? Excuse me, I actually was the honor roll. I was on the honor roll four years in high school. What's high school? Shout about it so we can shut it down. You missed it. Easy lob right there. When she said honor roll, I thought you were gushy. You know what I'm saying? Andrew! Let me tell you something. Andrew! Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something though. I could run faster than you sperm though, so relax. What's up with that? He's comedian. That's funny. Comedian. She had that one chamber. She had that one chamber. She had that one chamber. That's funny. That's a comic. That's a great joke. That is a great joke. Holy shit, it's a great joke. You want to exchange, you don't have to be like you want to exchange. You can smile. We got to have meetings when you do stuff like that. Nobody told you to sit in that loop to that country. We went like that. What the fuck? I know that's a comedy joke. I would have been like Jesus. That was painful. I ain't gonna lie, it was painful. But that is a phenomenal joke. That is a phenomenal joke. I don't know why you ain't wasted. He had my name stop playing with me. You already knew. You already knew. Nothing. You want to say something back? No. It's nothing I can say. I lost. Shit. She wrote that at the crib too. She had that one chair. She had that one chair. She had that one chair. She wrote that at the crib too. She sing down. She got the rap in her head. The next time. This motherfucker say something to me. The next time. I can't wait. All those writers on strike. I see where they went. They go to the PMC. Send it to him. In one of your... It's not if you're listening. You got a ball. You know what I'm saying? I'm tired of you getting on your ass on the podcast. There's one for shows. Show me what you got for me. Tell me what you got. I know you got... That was sensation. That was... What we're doing is... Why can't she come up with something great? Why does she gotta be average? Why does she gotta be typical? Why can't she just come up with a great line? Alright. And insult my humanity. My purpose for being on this earth. I mean... I miss this energy. I haven't been on here in a while. I didn't know what was gonna happen. She did not fucking look right now. She did not fucking look right now. That was violent. I didn't know what was gonna happen. That was violent Taylor. That was violent bro. That was violent Taylor. Damn Taylor. Unless you still... I'm diminishing a black woman. Come on. You know what I'm saying? This led to violence. Oh my God. She didn't get a shitty wife as ass with. Nobody did anything. It's like, here's your wet wife. She's a christ man. Listen, Taylor, that was phenomenal. No, that was good. Taylor, that was a great joke. This is a good one. Tick Tock Bomb. Good segue. Tick Tock Bomb. Wait, did we finish what we were saying? I think we finished it. I don't know. I'm discombobulated though. What's the moral of this? I better get the canoe oil. Taylor just stopped at this whole room. Come on. He almost said it. What's the moral of this story? It's all oil. They do need to leave Ebony alone now. Who is they? They was on her ass bad. No, but you can't say that. You can't say that. The reason I can't say that is... I completely disagree with everything she said. It's actually an unhealthy way of looking at things. When you make a public statement, you're a public figure, you're opening that statement up to public criticism. It's nothing you can do about it. She has a news show. On the grill, she got up there, she made a statement. People have the right to respond to that statement. The only thing I will say, and I said this on Breakfast Club, you gotta be careful about stuff like that because none of us have a career in class people. Who do you think listens to this podcast while they do their jobs that are mundane in nature? That's right. They're buying our books. And to Ebony's point, she did say that she was talking about... She's not even talking about money, she's talking about skill set. She wants people to aspire to have a greater skill set. She was on that one, bro. I want to uplift Black men. You want a rich Black dude. And a lot of people want a rich partner. And that's the problem. This is going to sound crazy for me to say because I was raised with no religion, but when religion does not play a part in society, and the only thing that we value is money, we start to lose the value of a person being truly good. If you grow up in religion and you see a good man or woman, that is really valuable. That being rich is also valuable. But looking at that person and be like, wow, this is a good, God-fearing human that is a great person I'd like to engage with. When religion is out the fucking way, what else are we judging by? Do you need religion to respect people? You shouldn't. I used to think that you did, and I had a therapist, and the therapist, I guess, I need one after what Taylor said to me. Can you recommend... I was the most violent thing ever said to me. She said to me, like, you're not the one making fun of her every fucking week while I defend her. It's probably a file in there. She got one for sure. Now that we're on this subject, me and Taylor had this discussion last week because unlike y'all, I listen to Taylor, you know what I mean? Yo, you gonna let him do this? You gonna let him divide us? What jokes do you have for sure? I said, unlike y'all, I said, unlike y'all, I listen to Taylor. Everybody attacks a minority in a room. Taylor sends a bunch of sex to the group chat. I was the only person who responded. Nobody has responded. No one. What's up with you and him? What did she say? No, y'all have the whole brilliant in this group chat? No, it wasn't. What did you say? Let me look and see, goddammit. If you say it was, I know it wasn't because you have the worst recollection of any human being I've ever known before. Damn, y'all got the side brilliant in this group chat? Damn, I see. Oh, no, you're right. It was just me and stuff. Damn. She never replied, right? I called Taylor because I was upset about her. Do you know why I didn't reply to her? I was upset that she was upset. Because I never say nothing. It's always him. No, you did something last week. You walk in the room and he does the boom, boom, boom. I know. I just laughed and gassed him up where he keeps doing it. I was in the fucking chair yesterday. All right, last week. Shut up. Because he's funny. I slept in the chair when you made fun of me, too. That's not why you fell off the chair. Because it shook the room when she walked in. Yo, you're crazy for even saying that. Taylor, what'd I tell you? You're crazy for even saying that. Taylor, let me tell you one thing that's about to happen to you now. Let me tell you one thing that's about to happen to you now. Because this is a double-edged sword. Now they see what sword got one edge. What sword got one edge? A katana. Oh, my God. Now they see you can play. I'm not playing, though. I know that. I know. You took years off my life. My life is different. Why was it violent? After all the fucking jokes you all said, all the time. Our jokes are jolly. Our jokes are jolly. No, just shut the fuck up. Say it. You see what I mean? You see what he does. Why don't you care about my mental health when it comes to... I have a question. Calm down. By the way, it's not just you. People will be in me and they'll be like, you're the fat friend. What are you talking about? No, not Taylor. I told you last week. I told you last week. You said that. I said that. I loved it. Show main loves mental health. But he'll be hard on your mental health. You will be, bro. Oh, yeah. Come on. Get out of this. We all know this. If you walk in this room. Hands out. You might be confident. You might be father for a joke. Did you say continent? But y'all really just making shit up with me. That's my point. You were really fat. You wouldn't make the joke. It's okay to tease fat men. What? Hold on now. You should fashion your friend. So what if I told y'all why I got fat again? He knows why I got fat again. Come on now. What the hell? He knows that. He knows that. He knows why I got fat again. He knows why I got fat again. Stop it. He knows why I got fat again. Stop it. You just doing that. I swear to God. You put a teller right now. I swear, bro. Can we talk about snack shaming? Tiktok mom. Took her child out of school. She got snack shamed, bro. The mom. The mom. The mom got upset because the teacher says the note home to her and says you need to start feeding your kid healthier options. You can't do that. What? The teacher can't do that, bro. It was Pringles. It depends what the snack was. Pringles. It's a kid, bro. You got a snack shamed young. How fat is the kid? That's facts though. My mom wants to meet in school with six pieces of fried chicken. That's true. In like a bag? Bro. Did you bring the plate? Was it like a barbecue? Bro. We were going to the to the I swear. I swear, bro. We were going to the to the state capital field trip to the state capital and like she forgot I didn't get you any lunch. Cool, cool. I took the chicken. I remember I was the man at the whole school but it's still the bad precedent. Nigga wanted fried chicken for lunch for the rest of his life. Oh, fuck. You couldn't go back to regular? Couldn't go back to regular. My mom was eating today for lunch. Every day she whipped up some different shit. I had a full fucking bowl of gumbo getting in that shit. I would say your mom loves you more than the other parents. That's facts. My mom never made me lunch, bro. Why not? Oh, now y'all care. Now y'all care about how I was raised. To me, the teacher shouldn't be getting in the to me unless the kid to Alice's point if the kid is severely overweight then that which I don't know if I don't know the kid but other than that, stay out people. She was being petty because the mother originally wrote a note telling the teachers they should have healthier options for the kids. So I guess maybe when the teacher looked in the bag and saw that there was Pringles like, bitch, what are you talking about? Exactly. Yeah, the teacher started this shit. The mother started it. Oh, sorry, the mother started it. I'll take everything back. Can we go back to some brilliant idiots and some inside stuff? Taylor did Texas last week can I just say one thing? The reason I didn't respond is because I thought you were only talking about him because I never say anything about you. I never say anything about you. If you actually go back and review the tape I would never say something as evil and vile as you. I don't even do nothing. I just make sound effects like Miss Yelly. So what is the thing? So Taylor, what do they say? Don't date me. He doesn't look at him sitting back there. First of all, look at all the destruction. He's eating a papaya on a random planet. Me and Taylor make jokes about each other being thick because I'm thicker than her. She knows this. You know what I'm saying? She's not going to let him get away with this. I was just saying, think it's different from saying someone's fat. I've never said that about you. You don't have to say the word fat but insinuating a role and everything else like that stop playing. You got honor roll. It's the honor roll. You know what makes this podcast hard? Because I'm usually used to fighting with my hands. So now I have to actually talk. Because usually I would stop the shit out of you. Taylor, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Your words is very effective. Very effective. I said, Taylor, I respect it. I'm going to stop. But I said, you know who's not going to stop? I said, you know who can't help theyself? The comedian in the goddamn room. You would throw me under the bus. When he's the boss. That's great. You wrote the joke. You wrote the joke because Charlemagne put it in your brain. I don't even know. You're a demon. When I get you. I'm here for you. I love you. God. He did a peace treaty with her and it turned up. That's crazy. That's crazy. What is that joke? That's super devious, bro. You cried. You cried. You acting like a cracker. You acting like a cracker. I didn't even make no jokes this week. Yes you did. I can remember. It worked so good. They were so good last week. I can remember. Andrew hit you with the tailer. I'm with you through thick and thicker. That's different from... I don't know. It's a word. He did. No. I know he did. He didn't give a shit off. He did his joke. He did it last week. He said, all right. That's all I'm saying. All I'm saying is... All I'm saying is my mental health matters too. Me too. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm going to tell you something about Taylor. Taylor, you really didn't know this. I need to tell her this. What you said to me. You killed my mental health. Now she was cool. Watch out if me is not cruel. I've never heard a clean joke. I've never in my life. Are you serious? This is the best episode. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Why do you do that? Why do you do that? Stop trying to play against you. No, stop. We're going to talk about you. You were funny, mother fucker. The way you got that funny. I've never seen a movie let off like that in here. I've seen you let off a nuke before. She walked up to her. She walked up to her. After she saw the revoked employee having a good weekend with Ditty. After she saw the revoked employee having a good weekend with Ditty. She walked up to the revoked employee and she said, So, how did it taste? And the revoked employee goes, How did it taste? Breakfast? No, no, no. Not the bagel. How did it taste? He goes, How did it taste? She said, Ditty's dick. In front of the whole room. Wow. How many nooks you got left? How many nooks you got left, Taylor? That's also understand something. Why? That's crazy. To a man? You hate men. You hate men. You hate men. That was low-key homophobic. Why is that homophobic? That's high-key homophobic. Why is that homophobic? She didn't care about the flavor. That's more of like a dietary joke. Ditty don't. Was it heavy on carb? She just tried to get some nutrient facts. What made you think that they fucked Ditty? If you met him. What did you throw in there? What did you throw in there? What? What? Shout out to Ditty, man. What? Shout out to Ditty. I just heard him. Shout out to Ditty. I know that he didn't just shout out to Ditty. A black man dictates like watermelons. See what I'm saying? Crazy person. Charlotte's having the worst 15 minutes. It was just a one-on-one joke of when he originally tried to get at me, though. Did he try to get at you? Yes. So she clapped at him because he tried to holla at her. And she didn't like the way he tried to holla. I thought it was disrespectful. Disrespectful? How did he holler at you? I had a boyfriend at the time. And I thought he was just being nice and just hanging out. I was new to New York and everything else. And then we hung out. And I had to leave. And then he was like, I know you're not leaving before I taste it. We were co-workers at the end of the day. Why do you think I'm about that shit? That's real. And then you asked her if Ditty tasted it. This was much later. He left. He left. No, don't do that. Don't let them fucking trick you. I've just seen it in action. Over the years of them constantly. Don't put me in this. I defend you. I'm always there for you. You do defend me at the same time. You just tried to get him to tell me tell a fat joke. I didn't know. I said he just tried to get you to do one. You missed something. You could be mad at me. But that man never said nothing to you. That is a fact. That man has never said a single thing to you. Are you serious right now? The fact that you would insult that man who has only been nice to you has only cared about you and never said a tailor. Why are you defending you now? This is amazing. What do you do when I sit down? What do you do when I get up? Hold on, hold on. You're such a fucking liar. What's crazy is that Taylor on her way home is going to be like Yo, did I go too far? No, I'm not. Don't get me mad. Don't get me mad. I'm a ticking time bomb. Stop playing with me. Stop playing with me. You never said that once on his podcast. Stop playing with Taylor. I wouldn't say stop playing with Big T, but I don't want her to take it the wrong way. I hate you. Big T, goddammit. Keep going. You ain't keep going. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I'm not scared of him. That's my niece. She knows that. I love Taylor more. No, but Sharma, I do not like that you get defensive and I'm trying to tell you genuinely what I don't like. That's a problem for me. That's a problem for me too. No, she's right. And I told her the only reason I got defensive is because I'm like, come on. You know I love you. But I never said you don't. I'm saying I don't like when you do this. Because then the jokes go on the reddit and memes and all of that. And I'm going to the source. Y'all are the one, they're following y'all. You're speaking from that? I'm not. No, I'm not. What happened? No, bro, what happened? Bro, bro. He was like, I don't know how to feel. Don't take me Taylor to your world. I'm not one of you, bro. Taylor's not one of you. Bro, bro, bro. Bro, it goes... Bro, I'm in the mood, bro. Don't you dare leave your breadcrumbs on. Bro, bro, bro, bro. I'm telling you. He's trying to bring Taylor to his world. He's trying to bring Taylor to his world. I hate y'all. It happens, bro. I don't think I'd build a big name. She's so stupid. I don't know why I didn't pocket even a gift. I didn't want to pocket the ball. You said... I started sweating. This shit is crazy, bro. I love you, Taylor. Taylor, I love you and I hate you. I love you, Alex. You don't love me the way I love you, though. I do love you, but stop playing with me. I don't play with you. That man right there? Taylor's not wrong at all. And the reason I know she's not wrong at all... Don't do it. This has been happening to me my whole life. This is not new. And that's what makes you an asshole. Because you notice... He just jokes to most friends. Jokes to most friends, even though I don't make them, but you make them about me. That is fucked up. This has literally been happening to me since high school. I mean, I'm middle school. Literally, call it into the principal's office. Oh, yeah. Leave these people alone. Leave these people alone. Leave these people alone. Oh, thanks to everybody. I didn't discriminate. There wasn't one specific brand? No. It really wasn't. It really, truly wasn't, yo. Yo, do you guys remember when Van tried to just equate what he goes through to what Taylor goes through? Crazy love. Yeah, and then they come in after you online. Van Esper. Yeah, this is like... I put a little book on the whole thing. Fat, big and tight. Fat, crazy and tight. Why do you have to put two fats in it? Why would it be fat and big, bro? It's absolute... Why would it be fat and big? You already got fat. You don't need big fat, big and wide as hell. Why would it be three? Why would it be three? One fat and fat and crazy and tight. I'm trying to bring some towels in here, some napkins or something. Chris got some, bro. Shoot, can you bring in some paper towels? Damn, bro. Let's just pay the bills, man. Let's get you crazy right now. Salute to Unkman, Steve Harvey. Elevate you, man. Elevate you, Vitality Daily Greens. The new product co-founded by Steve Harvey and formulated by Harvard scientists. This game-changing formula boosts your body's mitochondrial production, providing you with sustained energy throughout the day. No more relying on coffee or unhealthy energy drinks to get you going. It's packed with over 30 superfoods, vitamins and minerals to feel energized, focused and ready to tackle your day. 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So that really means a lot to me. Dandroshultz.com. You got any church items with me, man? No. Shit coming up. TV stuff when the riot strike gets figured out. But no, I'm just doing my same thing. Ringerverse, higher learning. Come fuck with me. Yeah, man. Just go pick up something like 85. That's the project we put out on SPH Productions. Go pick up Finding Temecula. Of course you can. Chris, it's your project. Next Tuesday night, Philadelphia. Brotherly Grub Cafe. Six to nine. I'm participating in a town hall about Brotherly Love. Mike Africa Jr. will be there. A lot of notable Philadelphians will be there. Maybe me. Maybe Barbara Renfrow, who is one of the characters or people in the dock. So that'll be next Tuesday night. So y'all be having a discussion about Summer of 85. Yep, town hall meeting. Don't pull up to that. Make sure you get Finding Temecula and that shit. I don't even know if I should tell y'all. I'm hosting the Daily Show on May 15th because I don't even fucking know if that's happening. As of now, it don't look like it. They shut down? Yeah, all the late night shows did, but John Stewart was around for the original back in the day when they had the other Riders Kraken 07. And he somehow got back on the air. I don't know if he came out of pocket. He just wrote it all himself. But isn't he also a part of the Riders game? Which is quite interesting because I guess the most effective way we got to ask John about that but the most effective way to get the writers what they want would be for the shows to be shut down. So that is kind of Oh, they're doing it in solidarity. Remember like the last time No, I'm saying back when John did it. So maybe he was paying his whole staff to take off but he was still writing himself I don't remember I don't remember seeing this I've been told this over the past few days that John was on. No, I remember him being on 100% and it just showed like his genius because he could do it by himself. But it is peculiar to me because it seems like it's something that John would absolutely support. Like that marginalizes the staff in a way or makes them seem like they're not as needed. But what you become effective I think is having the network just shut down. I think he still had his writers with him I think he was paying him out of pocket I don't know how that shit would work out. Most of the guys are probably going to pay through it that can do that. Different people did different ways remember they let him in I think pay it out. I think John is a fucking moral guy so I'm sure that there was a good reason for it. You know what he's talking about. Everybody is like pray for Fox and I read the day that he's been in the hospital for three weeks. Apparently he had like a stroke. But like it is too close to home. My guy Artemis Gordon he put up a great post yesterday and he was just like at what point I'm paraphrasing him but he was like at what point are we just going to celebrate when people are here. And then he had a picture and he was like I pray for Jamie. I don't think Jamie is one of these guys that have been forgotten. I think Jamie is commonly brought up as the most talented human being alive in entertainment. In terms of somebody who can sing somebody who can act somebody who can do comedy somebody who can do impression he's one of the most talented human beings ever. I don't think we know how to celebrate people anymore. I don't think we know how to revere people anymore. I think that the society that we're in is conditioned to slander. And the bigger you are the bigger you are the more ripe you are for slander. What I will say is I don't know that there's been as much Jamie Fox slander. Number one is because he's just the sweetest guy and he doesn't have very many enemies and he kind of keeps his private life as private as you can. I don't think we know how to revere people as much slander about him. Normally when Jamie Fox's name comes up you only hear good things around him. And we need to celebrate people more while they're here and I think that comes in the form of support, support for what people are doing, support for what they're putting out there. That's how you celebrate someone. But it's not human nature every day to think about how great somebody is. The only place that we do it every day somebody's trying to say Jordan wasn't the greatest or LeBron wasn't the greatest. Relitigating their worst failures every single day. No doubt but regardless of what that conversation is we're still saying somebody's great. Whether you think LeBron is great or you think Michael's great and we're not afraid to celebrate them. Slander is the price you pay for success. That is a fact. And that is a price that you have to be willing to pay and you have to understand that part of success is quieting that slander and continue to put out greatness nonstop until those people that slander you look foolish. That's because there will never be a time where people stop slandering you but there will be a time where other people go nah you just hate him bro. That man or that woman is doing something fire. When you laugh on somebody's video for something good, when you laugh on somebody's video this shit is so good everybody gotta check it out. Every single day we post literally every single day we post a show goes viral like you gotta watch this. I post a stand up clip and it goes viral pretty much every single time. What's the last, tell me. The little girl that be the little you see the little girl van van from Florida that be rapping. Everybody loves the way she raps. You know who that is. Anyway I post it, things go viral people go viral for good stuff all the time. Not like negativity, tell me the last time something went negative. You could use hard as an example. Hold on, tell me the last time somebody got slandered on social media and it went crazy viral. People get slandered. It's not slander. It's not slander. So check it out. When you're on the way up you remind people of who they are and their aspirations. So it's very exciting to root for you when you're going against the world. You're everybody's favorite new DJ you're everybody's favorite morning radio host when you're on the way up because they're reminding of who they are they want to be that morning guy when you get to the top some people you remind them of what they're not so what they have to do to be okay inside is diminish your greatness to make them feel okay and that's a human thing that we all do. We are all guilty of this. This is a thing that just happens and it's our job when we're on top to be as undeniable as possible. I don't think we do that yet. We're always celebrating somebody. I've tried my hardest to celebrate but I know I am also guilty of the human instinct to find things that the greatest people in the world are doing and nitpick at them. I think a natural human thing that's why I don't want to be like oh these people are just haters they're human beings man and this is what we do and now we have platforms where you can get attention for those negative opinions. The reason why TMZ worked is because it feeds a bloodlust that society at large has to bring celebrities down a peg or back to them. So when you see people that everything looks perfect a hair is not out of place they're on boats that you can't go on see when things happen to them like a DUI or when they're cheating on somebody or when they go fuck it, they're not so special they're actually just like we are they're the same way that we are and so when I was around the office I would look at the stories that we would do and it would be like oh this person went to this place and did all of this stuff and then didn't leave a tip and I'd be like well why is that news people do that all the time well this person is a celebrity so when you see them do something like that shut the fuck up when you see that people go oh okay well these people are fucked up too and then it does something else that you never agree with me about it makes you feel okay for not being them because you would then say I would never want to be that if it means I had to do this or be this way but that's bullshit when people say that because people use that to justify their own like failures right he sucks dick he had to kill seven gerbils and sacrifice think about that we got to a point with the narrative to where somebody close to a celebrity would die and everybody would be like blood sacrifice oh my god damn it's easier to believe that than to believe that we're not there because of the things that we've done in our life for the choices that you've made so that's kind of the way that that goes and the reality is that if you are in entertainment you're gonna fail you're gonna do something cringy you're gonna do something bad constantly and we're putting out content for hours a week there's tons of it there's tons of opportunities to be like oh look at fucking Charlotte look at fucking Schultz there's tons of it and that's the price you pay once you get to a certain point now the question is is is that a human thing I don't think it is my nature is not to hate I really love greatness and I love celebrating people before the podcast started we literally was in here talking about how funny Dave show is and you started talking about the redhead Andrew Santino, so funny if I'm being all the way real though I would say that a lot of the appeal to you that people had was that you would say stuff and nobody else would say and some of those opinions bruh were about there were negative opinions about people you'd have to be honest with that for example, you talk about stuff going viral you know what went viral for the breakfast club it's been a bunch of motherfuckers that have come to the breakfast club and they have rapped and you be all over it that ain't it bruh that's not negative though that's somebody rapping and me giving them their opinion in their face negative to me would be he raps, I act like I like it and then I tell everybody else that nigga is terrible as a rapper but do you understand what I'm saying though there's waves you could have done nah man I ain't even say that's whack, I ain't even say you suck you said that ain't it, which is the worst thing you could say I know that just mean go do another one y'all can you stop you know what you're doing if somebody gets on the stage and does stand up and you say that motherfucker sucks to me that means he needs to quit it's over, but if you say that ain't it man you could do a little better you didn't say that you could do a little better but you know what nobody ever remembers I also told safari I thought he had a hit record people forget that first of all I'm not just talking about safari I'm talking about safari, machine gun Kelly we'll talk about uh uh we'll keep stands I don't know what's going on right now have you let me ask y'all a question where any of those raps good raps good what are we doing you know who the most negative people ever in the world are sports funders they can be negative sometimes I don't think so I just think they're giving critical by the way I'm not necessarily saying that you're being negative what I'm saying is that saying if your nature was to celebrate every time you might have found a different way to frame there's no reason to celebrate that no no but let's create this little caveat saying that something is negative is not wrong there are tons of things that are negative a hyper focus on only the negative which is not necessarily what you're doing a hyper focus on only the negative is a more common practice by people and I think that's why when people reach a certain level of success they kind of hide in ideological support because being a unique thinker in a space where everybody is trying to tear you down and point out what you're doing wrong is very exhaustive if you go you know what I'm actually just a Christian guy and I have to live by all my Christian values and that is the number one thing that I'm going to do then the Christians got your back as long as you keep a Christian that is human though 100% because we want to be safe we want the group to accept us and then you can do the same thing with any identity but you lean and people in Hollywood do the same thing they're like listen this is how I make my money I need to have this ideological support I believe what Hollywood believes because I want to send my kids to school and I want to keep on doing this in my career and I think that's what happens and I think that people that don't do that I don't think that you do that I think you'll say some wild shit you'll come on here and be like I'm not a Democrat that's a fucking heavy thing to say for a person of your influence oh come on I'm not a Democrat I'm not a Democrat we're winning guys oh shut up I'm not a Democrat I'm a Republican but what I'm saying is was that clear was that clear about what I was trying to say so what I'll say is is you're opening yourself up from criticism from both sides when you're not just going hey I agree with all these ideologies and I really admire that something that I look up to I think that's something you looked up to I know it's something you looked up to but we try to be it but the cost of that is that we're open from criticism from everywhere because we don't have that one group protecting it except the people that really ride for us and that's why the people that ride for you when you have success are the realest out there because they're not riding because you're echoing beliefs they already have they're riding for you because they truly believe in you and that's why it's like if anybody holds me down from back then till now I'm like the most fucking grateful because it's so easy to fall in that trap of I'm just trying to hold the prints of people pissing people off accountable over here you know that's all I'm trying to say that's performative I know and that's the other thing that nobody ever wants to talk about how 95% of these opinions we have about people are performative that's why I don't think it's natural what do you think people are doing on social media they're performing I don't think that's nature I think it's actually more natural to celebrate people but you know what happens when you do oh yo stop dick riding you saw you on that man dick I love celebrating I love celebrating too what I think is anytime that you say something that people want to say but they're not saying you automatically become their mascot no matter what it is you can OD on that though you can I had an actual opinion about Drake when he first came out and then when I saw this shit goes people like when I fuck with Drake you OD those people don't really fuck with you they fuck with the person that is the mouthpiece for their opinion once you change your opinion and they don't like it no more you're dead to your point I'll tell you this and I'll tell you why it's always better to do this in your heart when those Drake ghost reference tracks came across my desk people thought I hated Drake that much that if I give this to him he's gonna go crazy I ain't trying to ruin this man's career or life I don't hate him like that rest in peace jazz fly I've told y'all this story I didn't even know her and Drake was cool just telling jazz fly this is how I feel about the situation blah blah blah she reached out and let him know what was going on but my point with all of that is if I really was a hater and I really didn't like him in that way I would have ran with those reference tracks and a lot of this stuff is broad too because there's a way to be effective and what it is that you're criticizing right if I learn this at TMZ I remember back at TMZ it's gonna sound stupid but I really learned the lesson here back at TMZ I was when I was really a porn addict as much as I ever watched it I realized that there was this one porn star she was white that I liked that she didn't do scenes with black guys can you admit that you liked the white porn star I did niggas had a phase whatever I'm not gonna say the name now because this is what I learned so I learned that she didn't do scenes with black guys so I brought up on a show they didn't know that was going on and that still fucked up to me but that was going on so across the board and porn that there's racism and who they're doing there's racism if you do scenes with everybody else and you go specifically I won't do a scene with a black man I feel like that's racism but the point is this it might be safety we're in safety this is what I learned if you want to call out the racism in the porn industry then you call that out and you say that there are certain performers that won't work with people if you want to make a story you name one person so in any of these situations kind of what I see is people's in curiousness about the actual issue that's being discussed and they want to actually be seen and the quickest way to be seen is not to criticize violence in rap it's to pick one rapper and say this person is the devil we talk about this all the time and you know I hate that shit but the individual is not the issue I hate that shit but the individual is the one that's actually making you feel insecure or inferior and that's why you got to respect them motherfuckers have been on the top of the game forever like a dude like Drake who's been on the top of the game for 15 years has been getting this treatment for 15 years a guy like LeBron has been on the top of the game for 20 years has been getting this treatment for 20 years and they've both acted with incredible decorum when you think about it it is very easy and everybody I think LeBron better than Drake early on Drake definitely let all that shit go Drake used to step in it a lot but he stopped it's been about 10 years now maybe behind the scenes he might say some stuff but in public none to me that's impressive because it's very easy for those guys to speak out and be justified in the things that they're saying as far as what defending where they are in the game if anybody hating on LeBron he could easily just be like look at me look at all the things I've done I've been on top since I was in the 8th grade I haven't gotten in trouble nothing has happened you just need to nitpick me you just need to take me down he could go on that rant but instead he just goes and knocks out the fucking two seed or whatever the hell it was that's because people and notice the narrative shifting the second he knocks out the two seed we're all prisoners of the moment myself included you're like this guy is the truth I was talking about earlier because people expect LeBron to be LeBron but they expect him not to say that he's LeBron but no people expect LeBron to be excellent on the basketball but they expect him not to say that he's excellent if LeBron if LeBron was to say look like Rick James I'm the baddest motherfucker living ain't nobody ever did it like me think about it I've been on top of it name somebody else ain't never been in no trouble name somebody else ain't never all of that's true if he were to say that who? Steph Curry the person that nobody wants to hear next to LeBron because it kills so many LeBron arguments that's just a whole other debate but look LeBron has been in the spotlight a little bit longer than Steph and the expectations are way higher what makes LeBron so special is that literally like y'all said magazine, front cover what 9th grade? also LeBron reminds everybody of what they're not Steph reminds everybody of what they are everybody thinks they could do the shit Steph does they can't though they cannot no no no what I'm saying is his game seems more accessible to people than LeBron you can't teach yourself to be 6'9 and handle the ball like a point guard pass like a point guard shoot three you can't teach that but you look at Steph well I'm kind of 6'6 I kind of got a little range I got a crossover you think you can do what he does y'all ain't paying attention to it oh no you're talking about arguably you could say the greatest offensive player ever I have Steph Curry as number 2 all the time whoa listen there's an argument to be made man number 2 all time there's an argument to be made can you run down your top my top 5 and this is an objective top 5 Michael Jordan, Steph Curry Kobe Bryant, LeBron James Maddie Johnson top 5 greatest basketball player I've ever seen in order that's what the group chat said this morning a group chat because you said earlier you didn't watch the game but you said that was a bad shot come on y'all you keep doing this bullshit you need to come to one you doing a callback to something nobody heard or saw oh I thought he was recording no that's not me no that's my top 5 in order of the greatest ball players I've seen yeah I mean look there are times when you watch stuff where you go I've never seen anything like this before so you can't get mad at it you can't get mad at it I think LeBron will probably still have to be ahead of Steph for me just based on the accomplishments I've seen LeBron before though who? Maddie Johnson, Scottie Pippen LeBron James is the all-time leading scorer in the history of the NBA so what? and I hate that stat that's the stat I hate the most because Kareem held that stat for so many years and nobody ever was like Kareem's the greatest I mean old people would but we never did that because we never thought that we would see anybody break it to say that he's Maddie Johnson right but he's also the greatest scorer of all time LeBron can do everything that's my point if Kareem was Christian I think that we he's in the top I ain't even thought that Jabbar that's it that's the greatest of all time I mean he loved God Kareem was mean bro he wasn't fucking with nobody I just never seen anything like Steph Curry I agree that motherfucker is unbelievable okay greatest offensive players of all time Jordan it's Steph it's Jordan Steph and I'll be honest with you if you put Steph ahead of Jordan just offensively I think there's an argument to be made just offensively I'm not disagreeing wait hold on he puts on a team we talked about 37 points a game Michael Jordan could just score he wasn't the shooter that Steph was but he was unstoppable Steph is unstoppable do you all see Steph in that game another night I get it so we would have to he dropped a light the game has changed the pace of the game has changed the pace of the game has changed Steph does one thing better than anybody has ever done it before but before we start saying that somebody was a better offensive threat than Magic Johnson if we talk about just offensive Michael Jordan if we talk about offensive is Shaq in there if we just talk about offensive if it's just offensive there's nothing you could do we were talking about game changing players a couple of weeks ago people that we think revolution out of the game of basketball I put Shaq in there but Andrew brought up a good point there was only one Shaq nobody else could do what Shaq does because they didn't have his size changing the way that people play in my life time the people that changed the way that people played it was Alan Iverson first I literally saw a transition on the courts when I would go play pick up ball everybody wanted to be AI and it was Steph Curry man those were the two biggest changes what if I could make an argument that the most significant change in basketball was from the paint to the perimeter and the reason why that change happened is because of Jordan that the reason why a guy like Kevin Durant or some of the other guys that you see that have that type of size and that type of shooting ability that want to handle the ball at these different sizes even like a Tracy McGrady who came right after Mike but was still like 6'9 the reason why those guys wanted to be 94 foot players was because Jordan was a guy who could control the game by having a ball in his hand the magic was 6'9 point guard you have to drop it to somebody so what I'm saying is and I'm not saying that magic could I'm just saying that the way the NBA to me really changed the game moved to the perimeter because you wanted to be the guy creating the last shot that's what our people were our top 5 was Magic, Michael there were guys creating that last shot before I mean like Byrd would create the last shot they would but I'm not saying but think about it Jordan won without a dominant post presence like he won with Michael Jordan won championships without a dominant post presence he wasn't come on bro bro but Jordan won without a dominant post presence but look it's I think as far as the game now Steph is by far the most influential player he didn't just change how guys want to play he changed how teams even when people have this conversation about whoever wins this series between the Lakers and Warriors is demanded a generation that's just not true Steph Curry is what 15 and 8 I think in playoffs against LeBron and 3 and 1 in NBA Finals what are we talking about I think we're prisoners of the movement if LeBron wins this series or the Lakers win this series we go LeBron is the fucking goat and I think if Steph wins this series and Steph goes on to win the championship I think people go Steph's better than LeBron we're prisoners of the moment it doesn't mean that it is that way but we can't help ourselves from doing that we see it after every boxing match or every MMA fight we go that guy's the truth nobody could stop him and that's just our human instinct it's no irrational how awesome is it to see something and have it completely change your opinion and then talk to your boys about it for 30 minutes that's not what I do though when we get on the phone and we have these conversations we always discuss somebody's whole totality because one person isn't one person isn't discussing the whole totality and that's what creates the dialogue you need one irrational thinker you gotta see the whole dick the head look big you know what I'm saying that's it sometimes it's just a big ass head when you put that shit out it's right there it's the Liberty Bell you know what I mean the shaft just gone I tell you what though Steph win this championship is gonna get hard for a lot of people cause he's stepping on a lot of goats now he gets a five do you know why they say it do you know why they don't put Steph in there now you know what I'm saying he get the five it's gonna be tough for a lot of the goats you know why they don't put him in there now colorism they see this little light skinned kid privileged Del Curry's son they don't want to give it to I asked even they that two years ago during Covid I said yo shouldn't we be having a conversation about who was the goat of the generation was it Steph or Bronn and he said it on breakfast club I got to give it to Bronn cause the way Steph was raised no light skinned kid pull it out he goes like little light skinned kid come on Steven A it was during Covid but his thought process changed I saw him this week saying he's like yo we gotta start maybe saying Steph's the greatest point guard of all time I think he is the greatest point guard of all time over magic I mean really they play different positions but yeah I think he is the way he affects the game magic is more of a traditional point guard traditional point guard and non-traditional in that he's six nine his impact was this big big guys weren't allowed to handle the rock they weren't allowed to bring it up oh no it's impact on the game you're saying and Steph's impact is this big too when I meant impact on the game I meant like the literal game he's playing like the way that Steph creates absolute nightmare problems for teams defensively it's insane I just look and see how many sons you got now Steph got sons and daughters you know what I'm saying magic got sons, Jordan got sons you know that's what I look at A.I. got sons he don't have no ring but he got sons everybody was trying to be Iverson though Iverson had it everybody was trying to be Iverson did y'all see Roy Woods white house correspondence dinner what did y'all think well Roy is phenomenal we had him on flagrant talking about that whole experience they didn't edit any of his jokes by the way interesting it was live they couldn't have any of it well usually you give a transcript but no I thought he did a great job man I think that like I thought it was really I thought it was cool shouting out his mom at the end and shouting out his dad and kind of bringing that whole experience he told the funniest story I was like so what did your mom say afterwards and he was like oh nah she left I go what he goes she had a Diana Ross concert to get to she didn't just stay there that was an awesome job Diana don't wait I thought it was awesome to see him up there he's funny as hell to me he's like the best comics to me are relatable comics comics that aren't talking over you they're talking to you so it was good to see him up there and it says a lot about the star power so I don't even know why Comedy Central is BS and he's hosting the Daily Show it's like if Roy Wood Jr is a big enough star to do the White House Correspondence dinner then why can't he host the Daily Show yeah what do you wait for he had a couple great fucking jokes man that NFT joke was phenomenal yeah he had the other one that the Dominion voting booth joke if you want to know what his stand-up is like his stand-up is most similar to his Dominion voting booth joke the way that he described the roasty stuff is not exactly his style of stand-up but that Dominion voting booth thing $756 million my favorite voting booth is Dominion like if you want the truth the Dominion voting booth are y'all ready to admit that A.I. is going to ruin the world nah nah we good on A.I. A.I. is fine job and rents ain't they good in the west that's what you say famous like old fucking thing came apart what makes you so sure because I'm scared of shit did you see the guy from Google who stepped down he's old bro because he said that he wants to tell the world about the dangers of artificial intelligence he's old but can I tell you why I'm scared though because Hawking predicted this what is Hawking but Stephen Hawking was A.I. for the last 20 years of his life why'd he upset at A.I. like the only way he could communicate Hawking sing happy birthday black happy birthday at that he never said happy birthday bro what did he say though man he's all the good people if you just told him what he said he was saying in his voice though don't disrespect my man he talked about the dangers of A.I. he had a couple of different things that he thought were a threat to humanity A.I. it was aliens it was climate oh that's coming at once a couple of people have looked at this Elon Musk I'm not a huge Elon Musk fan but he's been disseminating emails I had a homeboy at mine that worked at Tesla and Elon Musk was disseminating emails about this back in 2014 and stuff like that it's one thing that this dude said but I'm not I'm not I'm kind of agnostic on it I don't have like a real I don't know much about it but when people say because I know mad people that say it's not that big of a deal and when they say it's not that big of a deal I just like it's a big deal a lot of people lose jobs and it's going to be a huge transition technologically for us I just don't have that same fear of destroying humanity misinformation we're not going to know the difference between reality and fantasy the lines are already do we know now? the lines are already blurred right now but now they're about to be obliterated like it's going to be like imagine like this morning they said Ukraine tried to do a hit on Putin right? by drone imagine if you hear Putin's voice saying I'm retaliating with a nuclear weapon bro there's you don't even have time to think about it but you would think that the government would be able to authenticate whether or not that's a valid they can't authenticate none of this shit now Chris come on jump on Chris in that article specifically the thing that scared me is that God compared himself to Oppenheimer right and Oppenheimer is the creator of the nuclear bomb and he put himself in the same category where we unleash these things because we're scientists and when we see something interesting we can't help ourselves but at a certain point it's out of our hands and he's like the AI is now out of our hands the way the nuclear bomb was in that time and that's that's the ultimate way that this can impact us but there's more safety now than there ever been in history because of nuclear bombs no but less people have died in wars because of nuclear bombs the last two elections we had so much misinformation you disagree with that Chris? less people have died as a deterrent is what you're saying? yeah it's hard to disagree with that it's unequivocal fact there's been far less actual you think the US you think America and the Soviets would have fought in the 50s if it wasn't for nuclear arms? of course you can make an argument that there's been blood spilled in proxy wars Vietnam things like that Nicaragua, Afghanistan but like there would have been probably to this point a major multi-deuter world war without a doubt you can argue it is the greatest invention for peace in history I can't go there that's such an interesting it sounds crazy but in terms of one specific thing as long as it until it doesn't work until it doesn't work destruction you know that guy Dr. Hinton he said that too he said the problem is going to be war and rumors of war he said that in the article he was like because of the fact that you could just mimic world leaders like it's nothing I read a interesting story the other day there was a Russian general or something like that that received an alert that this is during the the missile crisis or whatever that America had sent nukes over to Russia and he has 20 minutes until impact and this is years ago and he's receiving this information and he's the one he's got the nuclear codes and he's the one that can make the decision that makes it so none of us are here right now doing this podcast because if they launch then we're going to really launch and then it's over and he sat there for X amount of minutes I'm forgetting this guy's fucking name and he he was like it didn't feel right and based on intuition he's like I can't launch I don't think this is right that man saved humanity and nobody even talks about this guy because he's fucking Russian that man saved humanity so think about the climate that we're in right now where every day there's fear mongering going on between nations if you was to hear something like that right now would it shock you if right now we started getting alerts when we all be sitting here like nah that shit ain't happening would you be thinking like oh this shit could potentially happen you would be scared but the first thing I would do is try to figure out where that's coming from you don't have time number one it don't matter what we think about the nukes coming it's not a motherfucking thing we can do about the nukes coming unless you got a bunker nukes or if the birds are flying now it's about different levels of damage that are going to happen so like if what would you do just go to your family and be with your lover well first of all you're never going to know you're not going to know that those birds are in the sky this is what I would say about AI to me the applications of AI are probably the most important thing because some of the stories that you hear like they have the AI that runs all the time right the people in the room they're like animated Seinfeld people and it ran long enough to where the people started to question their existence inside of the room they started to go what are we doing here are we alive like the AI people they started to ask questions like do we exist what is existence oh he said that he said that AI is already getting smarter than us and so when you start to see the computer question its own sentence then you start to wonder okay well what are we using it for the situation like you just described what if we what if we turn over either strategic air defense flying planes or anything like that to the AI then the AI does not have any feel for humanity it just calculates the odds and then it goes cold decision it's a cold decision that guy was like you know what my duty to my nation might be to launch but if I launch my kids are dead I'm dead so let me make sure that everybody has to die so that's the only question I have about what happens when it's not a message but you actually hear the president's voice are you hear a world leader's voice saying we just seen can I read a quote from Bertrand Russell comparing the deterrent aspect of nuclear war to a man walking on a type rope can you read it in a specific accent is there an accent that you'd like to read it in I'm going to read it in my natural accent don't do that can you just read it in honky tonk accent that's all we're asking I'm going to read it straight whatever effects you guys put on it afterwards that's out of my hands alright you may reasonably expect you may reasonably expect you may reasonably expect okay we're serious go ahead Chris we're serious let me read it Chris let me read it Chris got the more serious voice go go go you may reasonably expect a man to walk a type rope safely for 10 minutes it would be unreasonable to do so without an accident for 200 years and that's what we're basically betting on there's not going to be an accident it's impossible for there not to be an accident the accident is going to be AI in all likelihood we're trusting humans to do the right thing a type rope we're 10 minutes in right now what's the solution I don't think there is none there's got to be a solution I mean unplug it don't somebody think you don't want to do that so we have just let you know we have been trying to get somebody like a computer scientist or someone from one of these various things thanks to come on the show and like talk to us about this and they're very sketchy and hesitant to do it it's something that a lot of people want to stay out of and we've heard a couple of like let's wait and see I just don't know what I don't know enough about it to be scared of course I'm scared I don't know enough about it to be like it's a big huge deal but it seems to be something that's kind of just running rampant and nobody really knows how to put the horse back in the barn look at this dude isn't he Dr. Hinton Chris he had to quit Google just to be able to ring the alarm think about that he had to quit Google to be able to ring the alarm about the dangers of artificial intelligence I did this history channel show and they were asking me about me and I was like how do you know that and they were like well we'll just put you in chat GPT the chat GPT gave us your whole shit you know what chat rhymes with let's see I got to get credit with that what did it say what would chat GPT say chat GPT was talking like me that's what I'm telling you yeah so the history channel show is about disruptors it was talking like me it was using my even like in places where I don't talk not why I don't talk places where I stutter or fuck up this is audio that's coming out of it it was text it was because when I podcast I mentioned that I'm from Baton Rouge like a lot it's something I do it had that all throughout I've never heard of it so imagine what happens when you hear a conversation between two people you love right let's say it's me and Andrew talking shit about you you have to put something from you in there though so it can copy I mean you're already in there probably imagine hearing a conversation between two people you love talking crazy shit about you and you're about to see them people in 10-15 minutes I just wouldn't believe it unless you know what I mean I would do a little bit more investigation into it I just feel that there's always invention and then people get scared about this invention because we don't know what to expect and then we adapt and we deal with it like the start of the internet people like oh this is the end of all mom and pop stores and all that stuff and then we adapt and now we have online businesses this is different it's not Y2K people are the end of the world the fucking computers aren't gonna know how to say zero zero shit like that like it's really this is really playing with our reality man technology just is something new we adapt and then we just keep moving on like it's always been that way this number five the widening socio-economic inequality as a result of AI when motherfuckers start losing jobs to these artificial intelligence we're not even gonna know who to be mad at motherfuckers just gonna be out here broke, starving and angry at the world but that's been happening like so many jobs have gotten replaced already because of technology and we've adapted 150 million jobs, 200 million jobs just devil's advocate everything that is being said is correct but is there not a breaking point so what I would say is automation globalization all of these things we've discussed before is there a breaking point though is there a breaking point to where there starts to be a compounding of things to where people can no longer function and live their lives in the way that they want to so if it's one thing to overseas it's one thing if whatever then it's another thing now plus all of this then there's automation then there's somebody else it'll be the climate that'll be the breaking point I think it's a combination of all three I think it's climate I think it's AI and it was something else we said in here earlier we named all three it was climate AI what's that answer man just enjoy life while you're here right we're gonna ignore all this shit let's say if technology takes away all the jobs we'll probably introduce universal income basic income basic income and then the people who actually want to go to work and do more just to make some basic income that Martin Luther King Jr. wanted in the sixties that Bernie Sanders wanted we hadn't reached a breaking point I'm just saying if we get to that breaking point yet I don't know what the breaking point is but not like unemployment isn't that high right now unemployment isn't that high because people aren't working everybody keeps saying that people have become entrepreneurs to that point there's a part of me that just had to be kind of like fuck it there's a part of me y'all know I deal with anxiety I used to go from the fucking old on lead to nuclear war people in my hood check out but let's not act like this shit is okay let's not act like everything's gonna be alright it might not be alright but fuck it people have been saying shit ain't gonna be alright for the test of time why do they have what the thing you just said chat gpt to help you that's all just cool I mean it's like scientists that come up with it this guy right here and you hate me this guy right here I didn't even hear what he said this guy I'm not gonna start it I'm not gonna start it I'm not gonna start it they're chatting what he just said he's gonna blame that on ai he's gonna be like ai this is crazy what did I say what did I say and the fact that you attack me y'all what jokes you got from Charlemagne yeah he disarmed her by saying I ain't gonna joke on you no more they aligned the thing is Charlemagne if I hit below the bell he's conniving as fuck and going to try to really down so you scared of Scarlett no I'm not scared but I already know I know you too okay what you're just admitting is my jokes are better that's all you're admitting I'm not saying your jokes are better my jokes are better, my pranks are better my pranks you're saying your jokes are better than Andrew no better than Taylor I'm not a comedian y'all I have good pranks listen, I did a good one yesterday first of all I have good pranks too can we do ask him to do it and you left him raw for no reason I know you said something I didn't say anything I didn't say nothing you know what I have to go to I have to go to his wife he's not fucked up she got the power? can we do ask him to do it wait what? his wife can we do ask him to do it y'all the only power y'all just be lying to Taylor she does believe sitting right here I told her this would go happen last week throws her friends on the bus he throws you guys under the bus no I don't I just know y'all y'all talking about I can't stop this guy can't stop y'all both can't stop stop, stop throwing him under the bus because I see you too stop he sees you too just because you got the skin doesn't mean shit my niggas that was a wrap that was a wrap what is show's brightness have to do with this no to you I thought you said skin I see your mouth trembling I'm just waiting what is going on here Taylor this guy he's playing with fire bro no no no no no give it up to guy that's the way he did I bring up this guy is playing with that umar clip I sent you the greatest ever he's the man you didn't see the one with umar how he feels about white people you didn't see that clip I sent he was shouting out a basketball game and he just went off you didn't see that shit man that shit was so good umar so hilarious what could umar possibly say about white people he was saying that he doesn't he also doesn't like black people that have white friends damn he didn't not say that I'ma send it to you right now he might mean that he said he said a version of that to me did you just meet him? and I asked him he was at my studio and I asked him about coming on brilliant and he was like oh yeah that's the one with charlotte and that white boy would be talking crazy and then he just shook his head listen this is a safe space for you Dr. Umar I'm a huge fan I'm not inviting you on here to debate or anything I just love your form of communication and we would love to have you on as a guest I'm not trying to give you pushback on any we don't have to be friends how about that you and I do not have to be friends but I would love you to sit in this seat right here and let's just talk man is that a message for him? I said it's in the um I need a song producing a beat black queens forever snow bunnies never remember you trying to get that song made black women here it is they hate you and they all race and they don't have to hate you to be racist so you think they gotta hate you they don't have to hate you racism is not about hate racism is about what? power and control of the resources that's it they can have sex with you they can give you your kids they can marry you but that's what they will never do give you control black person has 10 good white people who you love and trust and that's why I don't trust you you see how easy that is see I love being Dr. Uma because I don't get into no gray areas with nobody because everybody know what I stand for she's white I don't like you oh my god why you six-year-old girl that got a permanent head I don't like you why you still got a white jeans in the wall I don't like you so you already see me coming I ain't got to have no debates, no arguments and when I get around white folks and when I gotta put my suit on to go to work I always put a radical black button on my lapel so the white girls don't think I want them because you and they grows blood these white girls so much they think every black man wants they little nasty man they self oh my god I'm getting on the elevator and all the white girls looking back and see if I'm looking at their behind but you don't have any behind I'm looking for Sally I mean the goat all I remember was the goat bro I didn't hear nothing but bad that sheep who was that whatever the fuck goats make I must have watched that video 150 times who hurt him though white people I'm trying to like did he ever tell about his childhood like why does he have so much hate like I've never never heard that what's going to happen to you I don't know what to tell you man can we do some asking idiots I think I did a little research into his earlier years he was adopted by white people his parents are actually white that's bullshit stuff he was fostered in a white home that would be the funniest orestory he's going to come back at you you were fostered in a white home that's AI Alexander of bills 23 says if y'all could switch lives for a day would you and what's the first thing you're doing as each other I don't see one question except for the third comment bro see I knew I shouldn't have came on this bitch look at that bitch Matiana said man thicker than Charlotte that ain't no question wait a minute are you there's no question mark at the end of that that was a statement you know what miss Matiana said man thicker than Charlotte I don't know if you're thicker I think I'm bigger you're bigger but I think Charlotte might be thicker you're thick our mirage question is crazy too is Andrew invited to the cookout oh shit my bet fuck it fuck it but is Van invited to the cookout is my cookout it depends how much we got that's the thing if it's a light week you know what I mean if you just got laid on I'll be back on the brilliant idiots in 2029 DJ Dara DJ Dara said is America so fascinated with celebrity that was a great question I think because at this point we don't have royalty man that's all we got what else do we have to be fascinated with America was built on celebrity the guys who the earliest stories of the guys in the American frontier the founding fathers were the first celebrities David Crockett, Daniel Boone all of these things famous stories where America hasn't been Billy the Kid Doc Holliday some of the worst killers in the history of the country were romanticized in comic books and stories all over the place they're all confederate soldiers were they celebrities in their time absolutely I don't know if they were all confederate soldiers but a lot of the train robbers and bank robbers in the west they were confederate soldiers they were fighting against but they had all the military training they had the guns and weapons training they had the cavalry training they could ride the horses so you trained up these people we were robbing everybody they were definitely famous but a lot of these guys like Robert Ford killed Jesse James he was one of the most famous men of his time because we've romanticized our existence because the story is incredibly romantic I mean like defeating the greatest army in the world with a bunch of people that I mean weren't even a functional army is insane so after that it's like everything is a romance I mean this almost feels like now you can't even have a conversation about anything that's happening in society if celebrities not attached to it like there's big societal issues that we don't even start discussing unless a celebrity is attached to it Jesus Christ that's fucking crazy Jake Stree says who in your opinion is actually the best rapper of the new generation by positive impact who fucking cares bro positive impact yeah Kodak Black oh Kodak is the man dude I ain't never said that I don't know we said Van was gonna be here you said that Mexicans can say the N words I don't know who they got me bro let me say this J.D.D. 24 my boy Van can Mexicans still say the N words I never said Mexicans can they say the N words not to me they have black blood though not to me to me they do but the mestizo period in Mexico you had black slaves come over they mixed with the indigenous population and white people and they created Mexicans but to black to me there's been a democratization of the word that exists because like I know I'm from the south and like where I'm from if you're not black and you say that word there's a very specific intent I get I'm not from LA I'm not from New York I'm not from different places where different people throw it around so I'm not gonna tell nobody how to react to that but to me no who can say it that's not black and you feel the most comfortable nobody what about Fat Joe, Fat Joe says it but to be honest with you what about that like that was regulatory capture everybody went it's okay and so you just kind of have to deal with it but am I cool with that? no it's not a big enough deal to like make a big enough deal about it but if somebody grew up somewhere else and they're like hey everybody in my neighborhood says this and this is the way we talk what I'm about to pick a fight with you now after years and years and years but to me there's a clear line there and that line shouldn't be crossed but he's Puerto Rican he probably got black blood in him he doesn't I'm reading this book right now I thought so too I always thought that he was Afro-Latino but he talks he literally talks about why he used the N word and he talks about all the backlash he gets for it now but it's literally because he just grew up in the Bronx with black and brown people and that's just the way they used to talk he said when he came home I mean like a little kid and somebody saying yo this little nigga got curly hair or something crazy like that and he was like that's just the language that they always used to use in the Bronx so it's black people's fault I mean that's what they say but everybody used to use the word and so he said that's why it took him back when he got older and people started giving him backlash for it because he was like that's just how I grew up that was our culture that was really amazing fucking I mean highly entertaining but boy he's a Puerto Ricans are the greatest storytellers of all time or some of this stuff is just unbelievable what's the most unbelievable part I don't want to give the book away there's one part in the book where he talks about this kid from Ecuador Ecuadorian kid who literally tried to kill him every day for like four days straight with a Mac 11 with a Mac 11 shooting at him with a Mac 11 so he talks about how he was in a rental car and the guy just shot up the rental car and the car looked like Swiss cheese and everybody was yelling oh fat Joe and I think he was with his man fat Joe in tone and dead he was like bullets never touched me that sounds believable to you somebody shoot at you for four days straight with a Mac 11 I don't know some New York shit I haven't heard of that particular story from him before Great book! Phenomenal read I actually want to talk to him about it but Phenomenal read it's just got some really did this really happen stories in there Well then ask him I want to know Mark 19 says Drew how does it feel to be the minority at the pod when you gentrify it bro know your worth King Thank you Honestly I don't see color but I smell it these guys smell delicious that barbecue I don't know it's the best being a minority I used to tease one of my homeboys with that I used to remember 36 Mafia two-way freak Remember two-way freak I used to go you got the fat man smell you can't get to your dick and your health is not well This guy is a menace You come at me yo Damn I was evil How is he that guy today He's no longer with us Damn Oh my god He's fine What is it going We can end on this one Raise Tinsai How have you guys helped each other grow and evolve over the past 10 years in business and life I mean Definitely business wise I think I've learned so much from you just about like entertaining, speaking on a podcast or radio I mean how to conduct yourself in these interviews I remember I saw the coolest thing you did We were doing the red carpet back in our MTV days and every time I get interviewed by someone I was like I gotta think of something funny with this at the other and we did it together once and you had like bits ready to go and it didn't matter what they asked you you would get into your bit and the bit was fucking polished and like funny and it was the perfect hot take and the perfect line and I saw them get it laugh and it was almost like print we can put this out whatever and I realized in that moment I was like oh shit like you have to treat these moments like you treat and stand up like have your shit ready to go you know what they're gonna ask you who do you think is gonna win the best rapper war you had a fucking line for everything and I saw the kind of the preparation that went into that and I was like oh wow this guy's operating on a different level I do radio every morning but that's stuff that we've talked about a million but still it's like I need to see somebody do that to realize that that's how you operate in those spaces you know and like that's just one example of many times I've seen you do things that I'm like oh wow that is the way that is the way you handle those moments in those environments Andrew helped me in life just because he was one of the people that I saw in his business who was actually faithful today woman that's real straight up like early on you're like this guy's really faithful it was so funny you didn't believe it and the way that you would phrase it was that this guy's really faithful that was inspiring to see because it was just like oh you don't have to be out here wilding you know what I'm saying I'm sure it's tough to go back to the room be out of town with your girl and like go do the right thing but that shit ain't the easiest thing especially when we were younger so that definitely helped me this is where my podcast and career started so the first podcast not the first podcast I was ever on but the first actual podcast that a lot of people listened to that I was on was y'all and then I did remember we did the podcast we were in LA and the first time I was ever on was at the radio station oh my god that's right after that like people were like oh my little podcast man you hit me up with Chris then that's how Red Pill started we didn't start it wow that phrase has changed we didn't start it right away because Tienzi wouldn't let us but then we started it and now this is kind of like what I do it's not crazy it's been a while but I've learned a lot just through watching you guys I've learned to really to be honest with you one thing that I learned from watching y'all is just just to be me you know what I mean just because everybody's unique perspective and what they bring to the table you know has worth and value I watch you guys be unapologetically you so that I'm unapologetically me yeah I mean I talked to both of y'all that shit more than probably anybody I mean not more than anybody but more than most people in my life you know what I mean so it's impossible for us to learn from each other and to grow that's the nice thing about podcast and know is that like it's hard to be a fake version of yourself for two hours yeah you can't you can you can you can hide for like yeah you think yeah some people have definitely really and doing what we do where you're like constantly riffing no no no no I'm just saying it's a performative motherfucker though who we got who we got it's a lot of performative people I guess what I'm saying is a lot of times that like this this exposes who you are and which is good for people who like being who they are because now you get we have an advantage right it's like if you're pretending and someone gives you the script and you're just asking a couple questions and it's done but if you just riffing and talking for two hours that you was gonna come out Alex you got anything tell us grow down some more I would say I would say probably everything because I wasn't of the industry at all so picking up so much game from both of y'all everything I do is like I see him doing this I see you doing this I'm like okay this is that's the move that I'm gonna do and so yeah everything I do oh man this is for you you can do with this one oh god no this is good because this is a good this is actually it's informative Albucaza says what's with the popularity of old Zempique for weight loss I just want to know which one of y'all went in there and changed y'all name to whatever that is and asked that question but you know what it is though so for me you know I'm working out I'm doing all this stuff I'm going hard and if I'm being real all the way real like no holds bar I literally hit a point in my life to where I was just at a road block you know what I mean like I was so in control road block you like that one Chris you like that shit I hope you're in the wide road block and literally me and my eyes just went like it was like a drop of blood in the water too great that's it I'm not saying it now it was a rough couple of years and like there was and I had my life when you hit the road block did you blast straight through it went straight through it shut the fuck up so I you know before I was everything about me was controlling my body controlling my mind I had everything to weigh down at an age just make sure that I didn't gain weight again and then grief hit dominates your life in that way grief hit and like I just lost it and the grief dominates your life now the grief is all about taking getting the grief out all night thinking and you're having dreams like every single night you go to bed you dream I couldn't sleep and the doctor goes here take this just to help you sleep and he didn't take you know shout out to my psychologist we talked about it didn't say that like a side effect was that you were gonna gain weight oh shit oh fuck yeah and so so it's a drug called Remoran and it's a fantastic drug to get you out of your depression but literally I gained like 30 or 45 even if you work out it still it's fucking with you and it's making your appetite go crazy so even after I got off of it I just couldn't get back to that thing because I still felt bad I go to a party one day see a friend of mine I'm like man you look great he's like I saw two guys actually he's like man like this is kind of something that helps you and what it really does is it makes you stop prioritizing food for everything because it fucks with your appetite so now if I'm feeling for me it's been kind of good and not everybody can afford and stuff but if I'm feeling like bad about something I don't immediately think let me go eat something because the drug is slowing down I believe your digestion is that what it is slowing down your digestion and it's regulating your insulin so now I have to think about like you know what back like I was before like what makes me happy which is playing basketball which is boxing instead of constantly thinking every single day what am I gonna eat and not do this yeah I remember it's a funny thing to realize it's kind of a relief to be able to do that absolutely it's a funny thing to realize that like you back to the old you because I thought that was gone I remember I'm in the house and I ordered a butter cake from Mastro's and the butter cake comes and Kalika goes I don't want to eat that and I was like that's good because this is for me you know what I'm saying and I just house the whole thing and just physically I felt so bad and I just got out of control again and it was just tough but I'm telling you they got a great butter cake though Mastro's butter cake is fucking unbelievable it's so fucking fire bruh it's like they taunting fat people it is you know what I'm saying nah they are though it is crazy it's like the Mastro's butter cake is so crazy bruh it's like a feeling that you can't replicate bruh you would have had the butter cake from Mastro's you know what I was mad about I went to STK where was I at STK that recently I was like what's that shit we used to get from STK's all the time that fucking dessert oh I can't remember I know what you're talking about though that shit was so goddamn good it was a cookie or something oh in the skillet it's like a cookie and a skillet and you put like a scoop of ice cream on top of the cookie we ordered a couple more than bitches that time we was in it was out there anyway but you know for me the drug you really remember that I do I like to eat but he got the alert he got the alert they like yo man you know what's not on the menu but you know what else is cool though you know what's cool with me what I realize is that I am different mentally than I used to be because it doesn't bother me anymore it used to be a situation when things are on the menu no shut up like the jokes about it it's not controlling your life when it's controlling your life you're that much more sensitive right but when it's not controlling your life it can kind of wash over you I have a great job I have a great woman I'm in control before when I was big I used to think the reasons why I am not all these things is because of this because I'm fat my mentality now I just think about it and really what I think about is like the responsibility I have to myself to my body and the fact that like losing dad losing my uncle David this year losing my uncle Charles none of these guys hit 70 so now you got to get on it none of these guys hit 70 man I hope that was funny to you too Chris over there laughing at shit that's crazy both of them you said that they just started smirking they trying to they don't want to because they don't want to step on the the sitcom moment I know they want to they both started smirking I'm telling you bro who smirks when you hear about dad it was just one thing you don't have an uncle Charles I do have an uncle Charles a couple years ago I've never been born with dugs swear to god he put some salt in there that Joe is in the wrong listen man make sure you go check it out I did a conversation with Judy Bloom man that's available all online right now yo she shouted you out on a on any code show too that was cool I did that a couple of times whenever you get the opportunity to hang out with icons and legends you should go take that opportunity I definitely did that a couple of times and I would do it again god willing and we did a million dollars worth of game a couple of weeks ago me and envy man shout out to gillian wallow gillian wallow doing anything if you can't celebrate gillian wallow something wrong with you they're fantastic bro gillian good athlete bro bro like gillian is a good athlete and also man wallow was in prison for 20 years think about that 20? yeah wallow did 20 years in prison he hasn't been home 6 years and he's home and now these dudes are the highest paid black how do you not celebrate that salute to gillian wallow and it's not just about the money you know what I'm saying it's the fact that they figured something out chemistry undeniable a lot of people come home from prison and they just don't know what to do wallow figured it out in a way that both of them have generational wealth for their families salute to gillian wallow as always if you listen to this podcast you think we're smart you think we're intelligent you think we're brilliant you're absolutely right but if you listen to this podcast you think we're just a couple of idiots you don't know shit you're right too it's the brilliant idiots podcast man thank you for coming