 Shoshenim and unusual opening you must admit with some Vaknin every day is Halloween but today unfortunately we have to discuss another nutcase Norman Bates of Psycho fame. Psycho was a 1960 masterpiece by Alfred Hitchcock. For those of you who are too young to remember would never watch this movie rush to the entrances and go and watch it. And for those of you who have watched it this video is going to contain quite a few spoilers so you have my apology in advance. We are approaching Halloween and I received a comment from one of the more discerning YouTube viewers. Since we are approaching Halloween she wrote I thought it might be interesting to request a video of your analysis of this scary psychological thriller movie by Alfred Hitchcock Psycho. I'm curious of your breakdown of the psychosis and how that relates to the narcissistic mother identification issue as you've explained on your YouTube channel. Is this level of depravity just an under the surface with narcissists and psychopaths or is there a lower level of this type of psychopathy already going on with the narcissist in relation to the mothers. Okay I'll do my best to meet this high bar this level of expectations. First of all let's be clear like many other films by the inimitable Alfred Hitchcock. Psycho is a morality play. The hidden messages, bad things happen to bad people. The victim in the film the woman who ultimately gets slaughtered is Marion. Marion is cynical. She is impulsive. She steals money. She changes her car midstream on the spur of the moment and at the drop of a hat she veers into an isolated motel. She just acts on impulse and her sister confirms that when she says to Marion's lover that patience is not a virtue of the family. Marion is delinquent criminal actually and yet she is capable of experiencing guilt. She feels guilty. The other protagonist is Norman Bates of the Bates Motel. Norman Bates runs the always empty motel. He is humorous. He is charming. He appears to be totally normal. He is very insightful and very helpful. A mask of sanity. Actually at some point during the film he provides Marion with what could easily pass as psychotherapy. He talks to her about life, other people, mistakes we make, decisions and choices that we regret and what we should do about them. At the end of this improvised therapy session Marion thanks him, her future killer. A mask of sanity as Harvey Clackley puts it. And yet, yet immediately it's evident that something is wrong with Norman. We tend to gloss over such toxins with C, such warning signs. We tend to ignore them, suppress them, neglect them, overlook them, refrain them. We don't want to believe bad things about other people. We want to believe that the world essentially is good, that people essentially are helpful. And so when we come across any of these tinting up violations of evil we simply look the other way. The first glitches in Norman's behavior are evident minutes after he has met Marion for the first time. For example, Norman is unable to say the words bathroom and falsity, false. He stammers when he lies to the detective, when he is stressed, when he contemplates sex. He has a harsh inner critic, a super ego, that inhibits him, prevents him from talking, impedes his speech. And that's a very important sign. If we look at the content, at the content of the speech act that is intermittent, halting, stammering, we learn a lot about the person. If someone is unable to point to the bathroom and use the word bathroom, it's because bathroom is about nakedness. It's about the ultimate privacy and intimacy. These are issues that bother Norman a lot. Similarly, Norman cannot say the word false or falsity, because as far as he is concerned, lying is the ultimate sin. This is what his inner voice keeps telling him. That's what his super ego torments him about, because Norman is living the life of a lie. All of Norman's, all the elements in Norman's life are lies. He lies about his mother. He lies about what he does to women. He lies about many things all the time. And consequently, Norman is tormented and tortured most of his waking hours by this internal voice, which as we will see, he does not perceive as internal. He externalizes, we'll come to it in a minute. Norman says, I'm not a fool and I'm not capable of being fooled, not even by a woman. He has a very low view of women. He is essentially a misogynist, although he would never admit to such a thing. He hates women because he fears women. He's afraid of women. Women starting with his mother have power over him. They are able to transmogrify him, to fool him, to cheat him, to cause him inordinate pain. And so women represent the potential for hurt. And he hates them and he loathes them. And he shies away from them. Never mind how mightily he is attracted to some specimen of these subspecies, to women. And then he adds, as a kind of afterthought, she might have fooled me, but she didn't fool my mother. Norman's mother is his false self. Norman's mother is perfect. She is omniscient. She is impeccably morally upright. She is everything that Norman is not. Norman is spineless. She is strong. Norman is indecisive. She is opinionated. Norman is soft-spoken. She is harshly critical. Norman is imperfect. She is perfect. Norman can be fooled. He's stupid. She can't be fooled. She is omniscient. She's godlike in her amazing intellect and intelligence. So she is, of course, a false self in the clinical sense of the word. In the first exchange between Norman and his mother that Marion overhears, Norman's mother sounds like a jealous lover. She implies that eroticism, not to mention sex, are bad things. And she humiliates Norman. Tell her that, she says. Or do you have the guts, boy? She constantly demeans and debases and shames Norman. Even these brief, briefest of brief exchanges, is enough for Marion to form the opinion that Norman should not remain silent, that he should react, that he should somehow put a stop to it, maybe even walk away altogether. Norman hesitates to interact with Marion in any intimate settings because he is very, very attracted to her. It's not very clear why he is attracted to her. Marion has a lot in common with Norman's mother. She is opinionated. She is cynical. She is harshly critical. She is observant. She is rude. She is street smart. She is cunning. She is a kind of maternal figure, a replica, if you wish, of Norman's real mother and intimacy with her. Sex, for example, would be highly incestuous. So Norman is very loathe reluctant to, for example, enter Marion's cabin where she is staying. He invites her to have dinner, a sandwich actually, in his parlor, the empty room of his office. The parlor is full of stuffed birds mounted on the wall. Death, signs of death are everywhere. He tells Marion that taxidermy, stuffing animals, is his hobby, but he likes to stuff birds because they are passive and compliant and submissive. Norman associates pleasure with submissiveness. He associates comfort with death. He stuffs birds because he can't tolerate life. He wants to convert life into a mounted exposition, totally controllable, inert, immobile, and it is at his back and call with perfect access. Norman rejects life in his hobbies, but also in his daily routine. He hides in the office. He maintains a motel which is dead because the highway has been moved over. There's no traffic and the motel is always empty. All 12 cabins are always empty. He says, we have a vacancy. We have 12 vacancies. Everything is empty. Empty exactly as Norman's core is emptied. The motel is a reflection and an extension and in a way an emblem of Norman. The motel represents Norman. It is empty. It is vacated exactly as Norman is empty and vacated. There's nobody there and it's dead. There's no life in it. There are no visitors. There are no guests in it. Norman doesn't even bother to ask people to sign the guestbook and so the motel is Norman. Norman keeps his mother who he claims is an invalid. He keeps her in the house. The house is separate from the motel. The motel is his kingdom. The motel is where he becomes. The motel is where he feels that he could be himself and the way to become himself time and again is to kill them, to kill women, to kill birds and to stuff them also the women but we'll come to it a bit later. When Mario asks him if he has friends, Norman's automatic responses, I'm thinking responses, a boy's best friend is his mother and he exposes an immaturity coupled with an exceedingly powerful omnipotent interject of his mother inside himself. He says I give up on the rest of humanity because I have mother and mother is all I need. She's my best friend. Norman says we are all in our private traps, clamped in these traps and none of us can ever get out. We scratch and claw but only at the air, only at each other and for all of it we never budge an inch. Mario announces sometimes we deliberately step into those traps and Norman retorts I was born in my trap, I was born in mine, I don't mind it anymore. Mario is a bit taken aback but you should, you should mind it and Norman says a bit mischievously oh I do mind it but I say that I don't. Sometimes when mother talks to me like that I feel I like to go up there and curse her and leave her forever or at least not light the fire but I know I can't. She is ill and of course this is projection, it is Norman who is ill. We don't know enough about his mother at this stage everything we we've heard of her we've heard from Norman but as the film unfolds it becomes clear that the sick individual is actually Norman and he's projecting his sickness onto his mother and you haven't heard the half of it. Norman says, Norman proceeds a son is a poor substitute for a lover if I were to leave her the fire will go out it will be cold and damp like a grave if you love someone you don't do that to them even if you hate them and then he catches himself this rare admission that he loves and hates his mother this ambivalence and he says I don't hate her I hate what she has become I hate the illness as we discover ironically later in the film it is Norman who made her what she has become so his hatred of the current transformation of his mother is actually self-hatred because everything his mother has become was wrought and created by Norman every single bit every element as we will see later whatever his mother has been transformed into she has been transformed into by Norman who is Norman's doing so this is the ultimate expression of self-loathing self-hatred and self-rejection Norman is hating himself rejecting himself loading himself through his mother his mother is this introject this internal object this voice inside his mind that keeps telling him you're a bad object you're evil you're a liar you're spineless you're gutless you are not very bright you could be easily fooled you should avoid women you're stupid and so on so forth these constant emanations and communications from the bad object coalescing his mind into a mother picture a mother figure to be a mother means to demean and debase and shame and humiliate his son the son never mind how how much he wants it can never be a lover in other words the son can never be loved by the mother the mother's role in Norman's life is to maintain the integrity and the power of the bad object inside Norman's mind as a way to control Norman of course for his own good Norman hates himself and rejects himself and loads himself through this mother introject augmenting empowering and magnifying the bad object with every sentence and with every action because a good boy does his mother's bidding a good boy does not disagree with mother does not challenge mother does not invalidate mother's judgment a good boy modifies alters his behavior so as to prove mother right to vindicate her and to validate her when Marian suggests to put the mother somewhere elsewhere Norman becomes aggressive he stiffens in a threatening way and he says you mean an institution manhouse what do you know about caring have you ever seen the inside of one of those places the laughing and the tears and the cruel eyes studying you and of course he's describing his own nightmare not his mother's he's afraid of ending up in the madhouse he continues my mother there and then he becomes ominously aggressive almost violent his body languages pretty threatening and invasive my mother there she's harmless just one of those stuffed birds she needs me it is not as if she's a maniac a raving thing she just goes a little mad sometimes we all go a little mad sometimes haven't you and this is a therapeutic moment therapeutic moment for marion she suddenly is able to see herself through norman's eyes which is the first very important step in therapy the ability to mirror the patient so that the patient can gain insight ironically and crazily insanely um norman the madman becomes marion's therapist and succeed to induce an awakening a healing in her and she says she kind of snaps out of her rivery she stole a lot of money and she's on the run on the land sometimes pursued by the police and she says he asked her we all go mad sometimes haven't you and she says yes sometimes just one time could be enough thank you and at that moment she decides to go back to phoenix to return the money to turn herself in it was norman norman who cured her healed her brought her to his to her senses and restored her morality and her reality testing with his madness very very crucial and amazing insight elaborated on by the likes of michael focor and altruc but we're not going to it i won't torture you the way norman is torturing marion later in the movie time for wine break and yes you keep wondering if it is wine this is halloween what can i say as i've said because of the harsh internal introject what we would have called earlier in this history of psychology the super ego the sadistic super ego of the harsh inner critic because of these voices that keep tormenting him norman is very attuned very sensitive to lying he's hyper vigilant he's showing that everyone is trying to fool him this is mother told him that he's stupid that he's gullible so he's constantly on the hunt for clues and proofs and evidence that people are lying to him marion lied to him about her name and then foolishly forgot the name that she has used and the lie was exposed she signed the guest book using another name and norman smiles to himself it's a kind of triumph a victory he exposed her for the liar that she is at that moment of course she deserved to be punished the inner voice in his head the mother introject is very punitive it is self punitive in the sense that the mother introject seeks to punish norman for who he is for what he is not only for his misbehavior but for his constitution for his composition so the mother introject also seeks to punish others external to norman people who may threaten norman people who may fool norman people who may seduce norman people who may tempt norman people who may lead norman astray people who may take advantage of norman the mother in other words is a protector now at the end of a movie there's a caricature of a psychiatrist who kind of analyzes norman's psychology and i beg to differ with most of the things he says i actually disagree with menu he says for example that the mother is romantically jealous of norman that there was an incestuous relationship between them and the way he was jealous romantically jealous of his mother and her lover he projected this jealousy and he assumed that his mother is jealous of him so the psychiatrist's thesis is norman was jealous when he saw his mother with another man and he norman projected this onto his mother and he assumed that his mother would be jealous if she were to see him with a woman this is only a part of the picture i think the bigger part is the protective or overprotective nature of the mother she is there to defend norman because he is defenseless and helpless as a form of internalized learned helplessness the minute norman called marion lying to him she became a potential seductress a manipulator an enemy because lying is instrumental lies are weaponized very often norman doesn't have any idea what marion might want but she definitely doesn't mean well at that point she becomes an enemy and the protector state which is the mother is actually a kind of violent psychopath the protector state is triggered and remember that in my work there are self states especially in people with mental health issues personality disorders there are self states one of the self states is always the protector protects the other self states so and this protector self states is usually a psychopath so we have this for example the d i d dissociative identity disorder we have it in borderline personality disorder we have it in narcissistic personality disorder we have it in psychopathy classic psychopathy and so on same with norman he has a protector state and marion has triggered this protector state but at the same time he finds marion sexually irresistible he is a voyeur he peeps through a hole in the wall in the partition separating his office from marion's cabin and he sees her undressing and naked the minute he does his sex is sexually aroused and he rushes to his mother because this creates in him an enormous conflict and the conflict is too fault he's cheating on his mother with another woman and his sexual arousal renders him fallible vulnerable in danger he perceives sex or sexual attraction as ominous a threat and he rushes to mummy for protection and also to make clear to her that he is not about to cheat on her his loyalty lies with her she is the only woman in his life and then of course we have the iconic shower scene we see the blood circling the drain it's a purge a purging of evil thoughts it is a symbolic scene norman is genuinely shocked by the murder but the murder was the only way for him to get rid of the temptation by purging the evil that has invaded his mind via the sexual vector and also to restore harmony with his ever-observant ever-present mother norman seems quite skilled at removing all traces to the crime the murder of marion body included he carries the body from the room to the trunk of of his car the way a bridegroom carries his bride over the threshold after a wedding very interesting he enacts life amidst carnage he's very gentle with the body doesn't doesn't just dump it or drag it or whatever and so there is a kind of symbolic wedding which involves death rather than life and crossing the threshold of the motel which as you remember is norman writ large the motel is norman magnified crossing the threshold of the cabin leaving the motel behind is actually taking his bride to face the world which world is this the world of death because this is normans only world the birds are stuffed and as we shall discover soon his mother is long dead the mother that he communicates with daily interacts with argues with listens to adheres to is intimate with she doesn't exist she has died 10 years ago 10 years before norman normans world is inverted it is death that brings life and life threatens death one by one society begins to encroach on his erstwhile isolated and protected world does abrogast the detective san lumis marion's boyfriend and marion's sister but he kills abrogast but he doesn't stop more people from coming he feels besieged his interaction with some lumis for example is very already very disrupted is unable to function is unable to talk coherently he's falling apart he's disintegrating he's sliding into a psychotic state at the time the film was made in the 1960s multiple personality disorder was a very big big thing it caught the imagination and attention not only of professionals and scholars but even more so of the media and mass media show business and so so at the end of the film there's this psychiatrist that i've disdainful disdainfully mentioned before and he diagnosis norman with multiple personality disorder two personalities norman and his mother sharing the same body that is of course expressly untrue in multiple personality disorder which was later named dissociative identity disorder the person the sub personalities do not communicate the altars they're called altars the altars do not communicate with each other the mother altar and the norman altar would never talk to each other would never know about each other's existence there is a host which is a mediator between all the other broken fragments of the personality the altars the sub personalities the pseudo identities so as someone with multiple personality disorder you would have a host personality and you would have a mother personality a norman personality and perhaps a few other personalities and they they wouldn't know about each other except through the agency of the host but norman is not the same in norman's case the mother and norman not only know about each other but they co cohabit they coexist they talk to each other they argue with each other they shouted each other they touch each other this this the extent of the interaction is such that this is most definitely not multiple personality disorder and the threat norman assumes his mother's personality replete with a with an ugly cheap wig and a dress and a knife but he never he never loses sight of the existence of his mother he there is 100% communication between his mother and himself and norman these two these two sub personalities that occupy his mind and his body it is true that when norman murders young women he dissociates and the mother personality takes over completely that is true and so the diagnosis that fits norman nowadays would be osdd and i have a video on this channel which deals with borderline personality disorder as a form of osdd where i explain osdd in detail norman has what i call embedded introject let me explain to you what is an embedded introject do you know when you talk for example if you were to talk to a good friend about your abuser you're in an abusive relationship your intimate partner or supposedly intimate partner is abusing you egregiously and you're really broken and damaged and so on and you go you talk to your friend to your good friend you know sometimes you assume the identity of the abuser you imitate speech your body language becomes that of the abuser because you want to demonstrate to your good friend how your abuser talks what your abuser looks like and how how what is the language of his body so for a minute or for 10 seconds you become your abuser and this is the embedded introject it's when the internal voice the introject the internal object inside your head which represents your abuser out there externally in reality you have a representation of your abuser in your mind when this representation takes over you compels you to talk and walk and act as if you were your abuser and this happens more often than you know how many times did you catch yourself acting like your mother saying things which actually were said by your father arguing with a husband that's no longer there but in a way that you emulate or imitate both parties how many times did it happen to you it happens to everyone and this is an embedded introject it's an introject that hijacks the body introject that takes over the body and embodies itself an introject that is reified through the body and this is what happens to Norman in his OSDD condition which is not psychosis Norman's condition is clinically not psychosis it's a form of dissociative identity disorder which has nothing to do with psychosis Norman doesn't have any problem differentiating between external objects and internal objects Norman doesn't see hallucinations there's no psychosis there there's just a situation where the introject inside his mind is so exceedingly powerful that it takes over time and again especially in order to protect Norman and then the introject embed embodies itself forces Norman to use his body to enact the introject to wear a wig to wear a dress to become his mother of course his mother is actually mummified he stole the body of his mother 10 years before and he stuffed her she's stuffed like the birds and why did he do that again my interpretation is different to the interpretation of the alleged or so-called psychiatrist in the movie I think he did that because he needs to be seen he uh Norman Norman's core identity is a derivative of his mother seeing him his mother's gaze defines him and gives him provides him with boundaries and with a sense of innate constellated integrated self actually Norman's self is outsourced his mother became his self his mother became an introject so dominant that he displaced all other internal objects and took over the entire inner space there's a kind of label so you see why I drink wine if it is wine of course it's halloween don't forget so Norman needs to be seen when his mother died there was no one to see him anymore literally by the way he's a total schizoid hermit lives 100 alone so he stole her body because he wanted to keep her alive in the sense that he wanted to keep he wanted to keep he wanted her to keep seeing him that's why he places her embalmed stuffed body on a chair facing the window overlooking him in the motel that way he's always seen by his mother he needs to be seen and it's not enough to imagine her in his head seeing him he needs the physical complement he needs the physical body seeing him through her long dead eyes the empty sockets that's how powerful the introject is introject forces Norman to use bodies human bodies his body his mother's body the girl's bodies he needs to embody the introject because the introject is too overpowering too or pervasive too too big geographically speaking for his mind the introject exits his mind because it takes over the entire environment and so every body that happens to be around is at the disposal of the introject and is used by the introject that way with a stuffed body of his mother sitting on a chair facing the window Norman feels seen by his mother all the time and of course this means she can intervene and protect him when the need arises but what really has happened what has really happened we said that Norman's mother died how did she die Norman is young when her when his mother found a lover Norman Norman felt jealous betrayed and not seen anymore in his mind Norman was merged infused with his mother also sexually in his mind he and his mother were in an incestuous relationship possibly emotional only but in an incestuous relationship not necessarily only sexually but emotionally they were one they were single unit and suddenly this unit broke apart and his mother found another man Norman is a man so it's as if his mother started to see another man not him and he and Norman became unseen invisible so he was not only jealous romantically as the psychiatrist in the movie is suggesting but he was all if in my view he also felt betrayed and he also felt annulled non-existent his mother is not seeing him anymore so he doesn't exist to restore his existence he needed to kill his mother's lover but also to prevent this from happening again this betrayal he needed to kill his mother as well he needed to immobilize her he needed to render her a stuffed bird passive and easy as he characterizes his stuffed birds and Norman spreads the lie which by the way proves that he is not psychotic he is very very much attuned to his environment he knows what's happening he knows how to manipulate people he knows how to keep safe he spreads the lie that he found his mother and her lover dead in bed of strickenin poisoning everyone came to believe that his mother administered the poison having found that the guy she was with has lied to her about being married that's a story that that Norman succeeds to sell everyone on it's very good at manipulating he appears very reliable very responsible very truthful exceedingly charming and so on and so forth in short a bit of a psychopath but actually it was Norman who killed both of them and had he killed his mother Norman failed to get rid of his guilt and of her introject the introject was provoking the guilt in the first place and the solution was okay I killed mommy I killed my mother her introject is inside my head so anyhow she's alive she's talking to me she's chastising me and castigating me and criticizing me and humiliating me and shaming me all the time she might as well be alive and I feel guilty that she's dead so let me revive her because I'm omnipotent and godlike Norman as you guessed by now is actually not only OSDD but a narcissist caught in the vice of guilt egodistony shame and the constant raging battle with his mother's introject Norman hits upon the solution of simply reversing the process if he feels guilty about killing her he will unkill her he will revive his mother he will let her use his body and his mind kind of introject possession instead of demon possession so Norman comes up with two solutions to keep his mother alive or to resuscitate her having killed her one he will abscond with her body and stuff it in this way keep her alive for good and he will allow her to use his body for locomotion so here he doesn't need to feel guilty anymore he may have killed her once but he has given her two bodies in return hers and his she shouldn't be aggravating and he doesn't feel guilty actually in the movie you don't see him guilty he's arguing with her he's disagreeing with her and he kind of moves her around despite her protests protestations despite her you know she's very angry at him but he moves her around moves her to the cellar back to the room as he wishes as he pleases because he feels that he has given her more than she had lost when he killed her now she has two bodies to use Norman is a man and he murders seductive and attractive women in a misogynistic payback for what his mother did to men to his father and to himself and also in order to assuage his mother's supposed jealousy so I agree with the psychiatry it's at the end of the movie it's a pity we are not able to meet I agree with him at the end of the movie that Norman's imputed jealousy when he imputes jealousy to his mother Norman is actually projecting his own jealousy he is jealous romantically jealous of his mother being with another man and he assumes that she should be jealous of him being with another woman that part is true but there's another part Norman hates women Norman hates women because the only meaningful woman in his life has tortured and tormented destroyed him did not allow him to self actualize and realize his potential and become everything that he could have become a wonderful man he's so handsome he's so talented he's so gifted he's so charming he's so everything and his mother stunted his growth his mother kept him dead in effect a plaything and he resents her for this he hates her for this and she's a stand-in for all all womankind because she's the only woman who's ever been meaningfully integrated in his life so he hates what his mother does indeed to men also his father and what he does to women is payback he killed his mother but now he's going to kill all women because they misuse and abuse their sex they're out to hurt men they're out to humiliate and shame men and manipulate them and take them as fools women are evil and he needs to exterminate any one of them that infests his territory Norman conducts vociferous dialogues with his dead mother precisely about this issue about women but these dialogues are also about who controls who who is the ability to hurt whom now an inversion of the power matrix for example his mother refuses to be to remain hidden in the cellar in the basement in order to not be found that's not to be found the introject resists repression taking his mother's stuffed body and hiding it in the cellar is a perfect metaphor a perfect enactment of repressing the introject of shutting off this maddening voice inside his head that won't let him be definitely won't let him be in peace and so it's very symbolic he is burying his mother again he took her out of the grave he gave her an existence as a stuffed version of herself then he let her use his body and it's never it's never enough it's never been enough she's been at him and at it relentlessly ruthlessly mercilessly and he hates her for that and he doesn't want other people to find her because he understands the implications as far as he's concerned and so now is the time to protect himself and to bury his mother again and she resists as any any introject would it's also symbolic act i'm gonna bury you again and that way maybe shut you up inside my mind and the bad object emerges at the end when the mother talks to herself at the police station of course Norman transforms into his mother when he's arrested because the mother is a protector self-state she protects him against the police but the mother also has a very clear view about who is responsible who is evil who is unworthy who is stupid who brought them into this predicament the mother says the mother embodiment the introject embodiment the introject actually says he was always bad talking about Norman the mother says Norman was always bad i should have put him away years ago in the end he intended to tell them that i killed those girls and that and that men i killed those girls and that men as if i could do anything but sit and stare like one of his stuffed birds i will sit here i'll be quiet just in case they do suspect me they're probably watching me let them they won't see they don't see what kind of a person i am i'm not even going to swat that fly they will see and they will know and they will say why she wouldn't even harm a fly at the very end of the film possessed by the introject of his mother Norman talks to himself in the capacity of his mother and reaffirms the bed object you Norman are mentally ill it's all your fault Norman you are stupid enough to bring us here you are the one who killed the girls so you are you are evil you're dangerous and malevolent i your mother i'm blemishless i'm innocent i'm impeccable i'm the reification of good you're evil i'm good it's splitting self-splitting defense and i'm going to demonstrate to the world at large and to the police more specifically how innocuous and harmless i am and then they will realize who is the real culprit the real criminal someone who should have been put away many years ago i pitied you i loved you so i didn't but i should have this is the introject's final revenge this is the ultimate self-destruction turning Norman into the police she's snitching on Norman in effect in a way and this proves how much she hates him clearly Norman would be executed if he's not found totally insane