 Count it down, Eric. Two, one. Woo! Yes, no! No! Hey, guys. Welcome to Rotorot. I'm the Drift. I'm Les Flaircy. I'm Pete Avex. And today, we're going to look at two different drones that have eight motors. They are essentially the same thing, just outfitted a different way. We've got the X8, where you have eight motors. Four of them on top of the other four. And we got an octacopter, where you have eight motors individually. And I was always curious whether or not you lost a lot of power by having motors on top of each other, because of the dirty air created by the motors on top. I was wondering which one of these would be more powerful. So what we're going to do today is try to basically do tug-of-war. We're going to start off by seeing how much weight each one of them can lift. And I've got a whole bunch of hand weights over here. I got the identical motors and the identical props, the identical flight controller, ESCs. Everything's identical on these two bills. I even added extra weight. This battery right here won't be used, but this is just as ballast to make them weigh the same amount. Because this one has a little bit of an advantage, because it's lighter weight than this one. The X8 is weighing in at 1187. It's heavy. A lot. 1186. Yeah, it's like right on that. One gram difference. Wow. That's great. It's fine. It's fine. This just really lends itself to being lighter weight. So this second battery, we're not even going to plug in. This is almost 500 grams difference between the two of them. Wow. That's an entire quadcopter. Are we pulling them up from stringing them and then trying to pull up the string? It'll just pull a chain. So first it'll lift the five, then two, so it's seven total, then nine, 11, and we'll just keep adding weight. Do you have any worries about a pendulum? Yes. A lot of worries. But if I can fly the ring drone, I can fly anything. True. True. Yes. I mean, the real, more scientific way to measure this would just be to measure it at a thrust stand and just measure the thrust. But that's not, I don't feel like that's real world. Let's actually try and lift the weight. Thrust is one thing, but I think things always shake out a little bit differently than what the paper says. So we should probably just do a line of sight, right? Yeah. Yeah, just to do a straight up lift. So you're going to take it off? Yeah, I'll do a line of sight. How many pounds? You want to take bets? I don't know. I think it might struggle to lift the five pounds. What? That's going to happen. I bet 11. You ready for me? I'm ready. OK. Really slow. Really slow. Really slow. I had to drop before it killed itself. Yeah. It was really hard to control. So I got 11 pounds up. And then as soon as the next two pounds came up, it just kind of lost control. So what count says, like, actually lifting it? Do you think it has to be stable? Or does it count if it's kind of wobbling around in the air? I think we can, for sure, count 11, 13. I don't know, because it didn't seem to stable. I think you should do that. Every weight that comes up, bring it into a stable hover. All right, fresh pack. I don't know what to do here. All right, this is better. 11 is it. 11 is for sure it. Because I was, I stabilized at 11. And then as soon as I felt the tension from 13, I went full throttle. And I think it lifted it for a second. And then just, well, I don't know why it died, by the way. Maybe with a plug-in replug. Oh, it desoldered. Wow. It desoldered. It was, holy crap, it desoldered the connector. It was so many amps. So many, it is so hot too. That battery is so hot. Did you hear that? I wonder. Some amps right there. Hey, I think the drone is fine. And it's, you know, got a quick disconnect now. I think it's safe to say that the traditional octacompter's limit is 11 pounds. This particular one is 11, so we're just trying to get an AB comparison. So I guess we know what our A does. Let's get our B drone. Oh, man, I'm struggling even to lift the five. Really? I'm almost full throttle. OK, five is up. Five, seven. Oh, man, we're full throttle, man. Dang, that's crazy. Nine, barely holding. I'm full throttle right now, all the way up. Wow. Wow, it had such a big difference. That's not what I thought was going to happen. Yeah, it's going down. You see it dying? All right, I'm going to lower. I'm going to lower and throttle, bringing it down, down, down, down, down, disarmed. Well, I was a successful landing, at least. Yeah, we actually put one down on purpose. Nothing disoddered. It didn't disodder. I can say the wire was longer on the octacompter, so that will add a little bit of resistance to the line. I guess a little bit. But it doesn't matter, because it still pulled more weight. Right, if the wire length is going to be a determining factor, this one should have the advantage. Exactly. But I mean, I don't think a couple centimeters of power or wire, if that's the only difference. That was a huge difference. I guess I could have expected the octacopter to lift more, but I would have thought the octacopter was definitely going to be stable. But I mean, then again, you're hanging a pendulum, so all's out the window. So OK, so the octacopter definitely wins in terms of being able to lift weight. What about flight performance? I mean, we do FPV here. So I think we need to fly both of them and see which one's more flippy-dippy. All right. So what are you experiencing? So it's got, hey, it flies nice, right? It looks cool. It doesn't really respond when I give it the Thrive Imagine. I'd have to punch it. Let's go ahead in this field. You don't feel like it's got the power response you're used to? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, it punches a little bit. It feels more like an underpowered micro kind of. See, side to side. You can tell it's just big and wide. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It looks really cool. Oh, wow. Y'all look sweet. When it yaws, it looks so cool. It looks spider quad, spider quad. It does whatever a spider quad can. Wow. Do a trick. I haven't tried Shark Bite in a while, and it's actually pretty good. Woo! Yeah, yeah. So I did a roll, and it went a little over. Yeah, you can tell. In here. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, so if you give it, what happened? I gave it too much throttle, and it popped up. It's like there's a buffer. Do a flip. A flip. A flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. Whoa. Yeah, way faster than I'm used to. I think those are probably stock rates. Really? Yeah. So do you think it's the size of the quad that makes it feel different like that? I usually leave them stock, though. Paralympionic. Paralympionic. I mean, it's pretty tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going out and trying to flip out there first. Oh, man. Oh, man. You got this. Oh! Oh, that's up. Whoa. Oh, come on, you can do it. Not back far enough, but I got to dodge those trees that are above it. I have so much anxiety right now that you got this. I have so much anxiety. How do you like it? Oh! Whoa! Whoa, what are you doing? Oh, sorry. How did you do that? I think it, yeah, it popped up too high, and then. You were like hitting the roof and just hanging out. And then I panicked on the disarm, because I was like, oh, wait, what's the disarm? It's fine. Oh, my god. Let me go again. Well, I think we have to matty flip it, right? You have to matty flip it. Oh, my gosh. We have to matty flip it. So what, we got this guy. Which I'm from Mars. Mars, yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Is there enough room to not run into the moss? Oh, man. All right, all right, all right. Wow. We just did it, yeah. First try. First try. Oh, sloppy. Do I need to do it again? Do I need to try to clean it? Oh, my gosh. Oh, man. Where'd it go? Is this the one? I mean, this has to be the first octacopter matty flip. Uh, maybe, yeah. Oh, you're so close to the ground. And you're carrying some moss. I've only got one of these. Oh, it just throttled up. And now it's dead. Oh, it just went up, like, on its own. I wonder what happened. Yeah, I wonder if it was that moss. It was being... Oh, yeah. It's not that bad, though. Well... Oh, the plate came off. Oh, it's broke. And the motor. Well, we got the matty flip. We got two of them. That was pretty awesome. That was sweet. Yeah, that was sweet. Let's get the other one up. Let's see. Oh, you can't really pitch forward until you've lifted off. Yeah. It'll just... Oh, yeah. The birds out there. Yeah, the birds are here. Oh, well, actually... Okay, this is weird. This is not what I expected. What? Uh, that other quad flew better, I think. What? The roll axis is weird on this one. This one has 480 grams of additional weight on it. But no, but it weighs the same as the other one. That's like a camera. It weighs the same as the other one. But that's like a camera, right? Oh, yeah. It feels heavier. Well, because it's got less thrust. Yeah. I thought it was going to feel more agile. It kind of is. I mean, it's balanced. It rolls. Like, it does tricks a little bit better. But then, yeah, just maneuvering around, it feels more, like, weighed down in the corners. Really? So the other one felt like lighter and more nimble? Yeah. But this one is... Well, I don't know about more nimble. Just more stable. Okay. Yeah. When I pick up, like, one side, when I go to roll on one side, the side that goes higher feels heavy somehow. Oh, but the pop is better, definitely. It's more manageable. So it's got less delay on the throttle pop, is what you're saying? Yeah. Okay. Try to do a power loop with it. Power loop yawning. The ony again. Same thing. Yeah. Same thing. Oh, that was weird. Well, you made better progress the first try on that one. Yeah, definitely went back the right amount of time. You did a good one. Fly better. Oh boy, here we go. Yeah, it's most... Oh boy. It's most different on the front and back, like, axis. Trying to pitch back or pitch forward it. I can really feel it fighting it. Right there, right in front of you. You're going under it right now. You're going under it right now. Yeah. Yeah. That was close. That was like one inch from the ground. But you did it. Somehow they end up down there all the time. It looked almost exactly the same. Trippy spin. Oh boy, here he goes. Trippy. Oh my gosh. What is there really to trippy spin out here? A tree. It's so close. I don't know how you're going to pull it off. Oh my gosh. I'm not really looking at the tree though. Whoa. Whoa. That's dead. Now we're on the ground again. I think the only thing that broke was the battery strap. Look at this. Totally fine. Now that's tough. That's tough. The battery strap. Yeah. I think the only thing that broke was the battery strap. So durability contest. This one definitely wins. I feel the weight on the outside. Yeah. Yeah. So like even like a little bit of input. I like feel it like, like trying to lift that extra weight on the outside of the quadrant and like on the inside. So basically converting this to an X8 doesn't really seem to have much advantage. All right guys. So we tested both drones. So far the Octacopter is doing better. It could lift more. P-Dev thought it flew better. I'm not convinced. I think there's only one way to settle this and that is battle to the death. I'm slowly bringing into her. You're out of feeling. All right. I'm ready when you are Sean. You ready? I'm ready. We're even. Count it down Eric. Two, one. Whoa. Yes. No. That was good. What did that happen? That was good. Are they still alive? Oh, you ripped the pulley off, dude. Now that's power right there. That is power. That is power. Damn. Oh, wait. Wait. I can arm. He can't. I don't think that was the rule. It wasn't not the rules. You de-soldered again. De-soldered again. That was crazy. All right. That's ridiculous. You won. Octacopter won. It makes more power. That was sweet. That was a lot of fun. Good show. Guys, if you enjoyed this episode, make sure to hit the like button. Let us know you had a good time. Hit the subscribe button. We post videos every single Monday. And if you don't want to miss one, the bell. Don't forget the bell. Don't forget the bell. Guys, I'm Ledrib. I'm Les Flair C. I'm Pete Devick. We'll see you next time on Rotor Ratt. Woo!