 This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP.com. I'm Mike Keith, very special OTP as just days ago, Titans head coach Brian Callahan and Executive Vice President and General Manager Ran Karthon and I had a chance to do a Q&A in front of the membership of the Nashville Sports Council and we did this in the Wesley Mortgage Club at Nissan Stadium. It was a fun 45 minutes overall as the head coach and general manager went back and forth on several topics and there were some good stories as well. We began with one that Ran Karthon touched on in a recent press availability. The story of how the Titans ramped up their pursuit of Calvin Ridley. Now in the press availability you heard part of the story. The Nashville Sports Council members heard the entire story and will begin right there. Brian Callahan and Ran Karthon from Nissan Stadium on the OTP. So the process started when we set our intentions on free agency, myself, Callie, Anthony Robinson, Chad Brinker, our coaching staff, Ven Moreno. We went in with a target list and we met with Ms. Amy and kind of gave her the plan. Hey, here are our top guys we're going to target. Here are some guys on the back end that are maybes if other scenarios don't, you know, come to fruition. So we're in it, we're getting guys and we have a day where we ultimately we struck out on two guys that we targeted. And so being a competitor, I was pissed, you know, and frustrated. So our night ends and I go in my office, I take a shower and, you know, I'm in the shower and I'm still pissed, but I'm thinking, you know, about other things. And that's when the thought of, well, maybe, maybe we can get in on this Ridley thing. And so I'm thinking about it. And as I get out of the shower, Chad Brinker's leaving the office and he's like, you know, all right, homie. And I hear his voice and I jump out of the shower, wrap my towel around and I just run out and I stop him. Wait a minute. You went out in the hall. Not in the hall, but in my, in the, like the four year of my office. Okay. Okay. So pseudo private. Yeah. But you're in a towel. I'm in a towel. It's not that private. I'm in a towel and I'm like, Chad, can we get this Ridley thing done? And in the media part where I spoke and I can see the cameras now. So I guess it's going to be known. That was why Chad was like, let's talk tomorrow because I'm a grown man standing in front of another grown man and trying to discuss business in a towel. And so I was like, all right, cool, but put it on his, on his mind. I got dressed and then I went next door and talked to Cali. And we had a conversation about the possibility and what Calvin could bring to us and the possibility of adding them. And from there I had the conversation with Ms. Amy, you know, my drive home about the possibilities, kind of walked her through, you know, where we would need to come in financially, where our walk away price would be in total, we'll do more research. But let's talk tomorrow. So come in the next morning, talk to Chad. You know, Chad has a really good relationship with Calvin's agent. So Chad started the conversation from his part, Cali and I, we talked again and we all talked as a group and it was something that we wanted to keep really intimate. So during the, during the negotiation of that day, it was only three of us, like in it, well, Counting Vin, it was four. And we were legitimately just together all day. Like in Cali's office, pretty much how it was. So now we start, we put our name in the hat and we knew we had to come strong because of other offers and to get him to want to leave Jacksonville. So we do that, we make our initial offer. They tell us it's a competitive offer. It's a good offer and that they'll explore it. So this whole thing, what do you say? It was about 10, 10 a.m. Yeah, it was, it was mid-morning. Yeah. So when we made the offer, so I'll fast forward because it's now it's about three. Yeah, it's been hours. We've been going back and forth and sitting together talking. And it just sort of been this whole day just sitting around together, waiting and having conversations in between. And there's other things going on too, but that was the main one we were waiting on all day to see if we can get it finalized and finished. So it's about three o'clock now. This is the day that you can officially start to talk to guys after 4 p.m. Eastern, which is the start of our new league year. So negotiations are still ongoing. So we get a call from his agent and his agent says, all right, you know, talk to him about it. He likes the opportunity. Not committing, but we'll say it's about 90%. He still has to talk to his wife and talk to his family. So we're like, cool. So you guys will get to know coach. Coach doesn't believe it until it's signed, right? Like, I don't want to talk about it. Not one bit. Not until that ink is dry. Do I believe that anything is done? Because I've seen it go the other way way too many times. So coach is behind his desk. I'm sitting on the couch in his office. And it's like, you can't move. You can't do anything. And we're just frozen waiting on this call. So we get a call back and says, his wife likes the opportunity. What we didn't know, his wife is from Huntsville. So it gets her close to her family. And they actually have a home in Huntsville. So it gets them close so the percentages went up to 98%. You'll take that, right? 98%? Like, all right, we're good. Nope, he has to sign. Still no? Yeah, I don't believe anything until it's done. So then because of the type of character Calvin has, and everything that he went through, Jacksonville traded for him. And he's like, you know what? These people took a chance on me when others turned their back. I want to be able to call through his agent. He let us know that he wants to be able to call Jacksonville and say, hey, I'm going to take this other opportunity. And I'm sitting there and said, there's no way. This is not 98% done. He's going to call Jacksonville. It's going to go sideways. This is not good. I can't believe this is like, we're this close. And then I just knew as soon as he called him that it wasn't going to be favorable for us at that point. I was not a very big believer that it would get worked out. And to Coach's point, we get a call back maybe what, 30 minutes later. It was like, all right, well, it's at 50%. I knew it. I just shaking my head, looking at him, like, I told you. And they're like, you know, Jacksonville wants to put something together. And he's like, you know, we'll see. But they want to put something together to see if they can match. So now we're waiting. So another 45 minutes, we get a call. And they're like, Jacksonville is going to match the offer. Not going to say what we said, but we were in that phase of it. So we're sitting there. And you look at the clock, and it's after four. So I'm like, well, we can talk to him now, right? Because a new league year started. And I'm like, at this point, all we're doing, we're throwing money. And at this point, you're just talking to the agent. Just to the agent. That's all we're allowed to do is have communications with the agent. And so now we're like, we need to get this guy on the phone. Like, I'm sure the GM's calling him, the head coach, teammates, everybody's calling him from Jacksonville. But we can't. So I'm like, let's get this guy on the phone. Let's talk to him. So we get his phone number from his agent. And then we just call him. We put it on speakerphone. And by this time, our office coordinator, Nick Holtz, had joined us and Nick coached him in Jacksonville. And so we get him on the phone and we all introduce ourselves. And then we pass the phone to coach. And then coach tells him, hey, this is going to be the system. This is how our program is going to be run. This is how we're going to do things. And then I got the phone. And it was one of those things. If you guys, I don't know how many people in here in Florida or know about people from Florida, like we stick together, right? Whether you're in state, out of state. And I knew people that coached him. And I knew the area he's from. And so I just approached it from two Florida boys having a conversation on the phone. And one of the things I told him, I was like, listen, I know where you're from. I'm from the same place you're from. I know how you were raised. I know what things mean to you. I was like, but more than anything, we're going to treat you like a man and allow you to be you. I said, whoever that is, we had done our research. So we knew what he was made of. But we were like, we're going to let you be a man and allow you to be you. And I told him one of the things that Miss Amy takes pride in is allowing people to be them and do their jobs. And what do you say? Within two minutes of the phone call, he was like, I'm coming. I'm good. We went from a 50% chance to Calvin just being like, yeah, no, I'm good. I'm coming. Wait a minute. Brian, what do you think at this point? I mean, obviously, I don't believe anything. I mean, I felt good. Our conversation was good. And I felt confident that we had represented ourselves the way that we were hoping to and that he would be open to coming to Nashville. And free agency is like any business, money talks. And the money part was important. And we were competitive at that point. And that was about all things being equal. Where does he want to play? And what kind of environment does he want to be in? And I think we did a good job of painting the picture of what it's going to be like here for us in Tennessee. And I think he obviously bought into it. So then he says he's coming. So then I say, all right, well, listen, have your agent call Jacksonville and tell him that you're coming. You don't call him. And we're good. And so we were still waiting on final word from his agent. And his agent is one of the best, if not the best in the business. And he called us back. And of course, he moved to go post a little, well, if you can do this. And at that point, we just wanted it to be over. So we're like, if we do this, are we good? And he's like, yeah. And so we were like, just do it. And he said, hey, congratulations. You just got yourselves a wide receiver. And so we celebrate it 15, 20 seconds. And then we get Calvin on the phone, just to, hey, welcome. Thank you for believing in us. We believe in you. And again, I said this before. And I think you got misconstrued a little bit because I said, again, this is all 90 seconds. And we call Calvin, or FaceTime Calvin, as we're having this conversation. And 30 seconds into the conversation, Miss Amy beeps in. And she's like, is this true? And more so, is this true? Like, did we pull this off? Not as in, I don't know what's going on. But is this true? Did we really make this happen in this day? And at first, I was like, is what true? I didn't know that it was out. We're in our little bubble. And she's like, it's all over the TV. And we were like. I about drove off the road, by the way. I'm listening to the radio. And so of course, we get off the phone with Calvin. We're like, hey, man, we'll call you back. Like, the queen is calling. And we talked to her. And we were all excited about what we had done and how we did it. It was collective. It was a group. It wasn't about any one person closing the deal because it took all of us. And we closed the deal. We got Calvin back on the phone. Got Coach Tobart in and talked to everybody. And then the panic sets in again because you're like, nothing signed. So then it's like, well, damn, like how soon can we get this dude in here? Like, we need to get him in here ASAP signed. Because again, it's not done in Jacksonville. I think it happened a couple of days before there was a player, Eric Kendricks. Whatever, he visited the 49ers, agreed to sign with the 49ers. And then the next day, I mean, it was all public. He's going to San Francisco. And then the next day, he signed with Dallas, had a change of heart overnight. So then you gotta wait another 24 hours to get this guy in and you have to live through that. So long story short, we made it happen and we're excited to have Calvin. Now that's a story. It's a little peek behind the curtain of how those things go and the ups and downs and backs and forwards. And it's, everybody sees the announcement that you sign a player, but you don't understand how much work goes into actually making that happen behind the scenes. And like Rand said, the collective effort of all the people involved was really pretty cool to watch and watch everybody do their job and activate when it was time to activate. And you get to see the announcement, but we take a lot more pride in how the deal got done as opposed to actually getting the deal done. The one part I did leave out is after we got it done, I officially quit for the day. So I legitimately, after we were done, we were in a good place. I grabbed my stuff, I left and went home. It was like five o'clock. Like I was depleted. I got sick for a few days after that just cause it takes so much out of you to get this done. And you want to deliver a product for the people in this room, the people in the city, the people in this state. And knowing that we were close to having it, it just takes a lot out of you. So, you know, we're just glad that it came to fruition. Head coach, Brian Callahan. You are an offensive guy. We know that. You have coached some good quarterbacks. You've certainly coached some good receivers. Why was Calvin Ridley worth all of the time and effort? Well, there was an element of explosiveness that Calvin brings to an offense. It's been proven. He was explosive in Atlanta. He was explosive in Jacksonville. Teams in the NFL nowadays, you have to be able to make those big plays, to make explosive plays. And you have to have the guys that have the ability to do it. And Calvin does. He's got great acceleration, great ability to separate. He can win in one-on-one coverage. There's not many guys in the NFL that can cover him in a one-on-one situation. And he's a fantastic person on top of it. And so you add that element to an offense that already's got some good young players. We felt like that was something that would be able to take us another notch up the rung offensively. And as everybody that follows the NFL knows, I mean, you gotta score points in the NFL to win football games. And so we needed someone that could help us do that. And Calvin fit that perfectly. What can he do in combination with Deandre Hopkins scheme-wise? Well, it's hard to cover both of them. You know, Deandre's obviously been a very productive player over his entire career. He's big, he's strong, he's a matchup problem. He's been an explosive player as well over his career. And so to be able to have two receivers that are hard for people to match up but then have to determine which corner they wanna put on which player. And both are different styles of players. So we feel like no matter who we go line up against, that we're gonna have someone that can go in. What can those two guys do for Traylan Burke's development potentially? Well, you get a chance to see for a young player like him, you get a chance to see what another two other veteran, productive veteran receivers look like, how they work, how they approach their craft, how they approach their work day, how they take care of themselves, how they prepare for a game. And then there's an element of playing receiver in the NFL that's confidence-based. And then these guys have an incredible amount of self-confidence. It's almost delusional the way that they feel about how well they can do their jobs. And that's how you have to be to go out there every Sunday and play in front of all these people and produce. So to have a young player see that from two veteran players, I think is an important part of any player's development at all positions truthfully. But those two guys I think will really give him an example to follow. Our Nashville Sports Council crowd here likes stories and they know that we got a good cornerback this week and that's an understatement in Legerius Snead from Kansas City. I guess it's more story time with Rand Carthon. That's gonna be my new podcast. Yes, story time with Uncle Rand. So Kansas City puts the franchise tag on him meaning they owe him, I think it was $19.8 million this season, he has the ability to go out and potentially make a trade and then last Friday you officially acquired him. That was almost a month from the date that the tag was applied until you officially acquired him. When did you start working on this with him in Kansas City and whomever else and how long did it actually take in terms of the process day to day? Well, I'll say active conversations where compensation was discussed with Kansas City was more like two weeks. So it wasn't that long. We had other conversations more just us inquiring about where they were with their process and where they were with him and you do the research you know, kind of understand where other teams may be what other teams may be interested. And so again, leaning on relationships and understanding like who we are as a collective group. I had a good relationship with his agent Chad and Mike Borganzi, who is the assistant GM in Kansas City, they have a really strong relationship. So allowing those two to talk amongst themselves from a team to team standpoint and with us having Kansas City's permission to engage in conversations with the agent kind of just had an ongoing conversation with the agent no offers or anything, just kind of learning a little bit more and more than anything doing a case study to try to see where they want to be you know, what's important to them contractually. And so you know, as time went you kind of, we approach most things with our walk away price, right? Where we're ultimately where we're done. And so we kind of knew where we wouldn't go within a trade and amongst myself, Callie, Miss Amy and the rest of the team, like hey, this is where we'd be comfortable, you know making that move. And so we got to a point with Kansas City where it was like, okay, you know, this is what we're willing to do. And they accept it. And so then it transitions from there to now you have to negotiate a deal with the agent. And then that's where Ven Moreno, you know, comes in and kind of based off of my conversations with the agent of where they want to be and what was feasible for us at the time, we were able to find that happy medium. And so again, the process seemed like it drug out because so much was coming out, you know in the media and all those different things but it was really a two week process. And then on the back end of it, it was more logistical because we were getting ready to leave to go to owners meetings, as was the team with Kansas City and the way you have to execute from a franchise player being, you know, tagged, traded and signed. It's our contract, but it has to be executed by Kansas City. Because a player has to be under contract in order to be traded. Correct. And the player has to agree to be traded. And so there were some, you know, some red tape for all sides, us in Kansas City as well. And again, logistically, we're in Orlando, Kansas City's in Orlando, Lagerius is in Dallas. And so getting him to sign, you know, in person, if I'm not mistaken, I think Kansas City had to fly, you know, one of their young scouts to Dallas to meet with him to get him to sign the proper paperwork, you know, in order for the trade to become executed. So it was more of a logistical thing, but it over the course of two weeks. So two weeks, Brian, I wonder, your defensive coordinator, Denard Wilson, your secondary coach, Chris Harris, the guy who works with him in the secondary guy, we know well in Steve Jackson, are they driving you crazy at this point to get this done? No, we, we, we did a really good job, I think, as a staff of identifying the players that fit what we were looking for from a player perspective, from a coaching perspective. And I thought we had a really tight free agency initial plan. And so we knew the corner was a spot that we were hoping to address. We knew there was some free agents that would be available. We would have, you know, at the onset, the idea that we could sign Lagerius was obviously our top target, but then he gets franchised. And now it's a tag and trade situation, which makes it very different than just a normal free agency contract negotiation. And so we kind of put him on the shelf. We signed Cheeto, who, who I love Cheeto. He's, he'll be a fantastic addition, but we knew that there was an ability to get maybe two quality corners in the free agency process and really solidify that position. And obviously we knew those were needs for us. And so Denard was obviously very excited that we were gonna take that route for him and try to find two really good players. And we felt like that was the best allocation of our resources for those positions because that's the way the NFL works. And they were very much included in the process. You know, obviously the way we do things, our scouts watch players as well as our coaches. But when the first thought of potentially trading for LJ came up, myself, Callie, Anthony Robinson, Denard, Chris, Steve, we all went into a room together and we just watched him play. We just turned on the tape and we watched him and we literally talked about, hey, are you guys comfortable if we trade this for him? Now understand this will cost you this. And so we worked through all of those scenarios with the coaches. So they will understand, you know, everything that goes into getting this player because it's not always an apples for apples thing. And so they were very understanding of where we had to be and what it, you know, the areas that it would take us out of if we pulled this off and made it happen. But I promise you, those guys are more than happy. We'd say so. I mean, Cheeto, Owuzzi, and Lijerrius Snead and Roger McCrary for that matter. Don't those guys totally fit what Denard Wilson wants his guys in the secondary to do? Yeah, if you watch those guys play both Cheeto and Lijerrius and the way that Roger plays the nickel position, it is a tough, physical, smart group of corners. And, you know, you see all the clips of Lijerrius when he's, you know, taking Tyree Kill and jamming them into the ground in that late game of the year. And Cheeto plays very similar style. They're both big players, their dimensions are big. They're tall, they're long, and they play a style that's very physical, which not every corner plays that way. And we feel like we got three of them that fit that style. And that's certainly one of the things that Denard stressed when he got here is that ability for the corner to challenge and play physical at the line of scrimmage and make life hard for NFL offenses. And as an offensive coach myself, I've played against Lijerrius. I've watched Cheeto in practice for four years. And Lijerrius is one of the toughest corners that we've had to face when I was in Cincinnati. And so to add him and add Cheeto really transforms, I think, both the mentality and the physical nature of our secondary on defense. All right, so let me ask you, the Titans gave up a third round pick to get Lijerrius in need. Last year you gave up a third round pick to get Will Levis. Brian, how has Will Levis already made his presence felt in this off season within Ascension St. Thomas Sports Park? Just his eagerness to get started and improve. Obviously we have rules about when and where we can actually meet with players on actual football. But Will's been around, he's been present. He's taken a couple trips out to California to work with some of the quarterback people that are out there that were really good. But we've had chances to have some discussions. I've talked to him on the phone a bunch. I keep him in the loop of everything that's going on as far as where we're signing, who's been targeted. I kept him in the loop and the coaching staff as we hired guys. And I think that quarterbacks need to feel that it's not an ownership necessarily, but it's just an involvement in the process because ultimately he's the extension of me on the field. He's the guy out there playing on offense and that's where you want your quarterback to be. So to be involved in the process, to have communication with him, his willingness to engage in that communication. And finally, his leadership role and talking to all the players that we've signed and making sure that he's the one that's making a phone call from the player side, welcoming them to the team has been really impressive. And so we start Monday and I can't wait to get actually in a meeting room and talk football and coach finally after all this other stuff you got to do. But he's been fantastic and I can't wait to get to work. It's really exciting and that the work that he's put in on his own has been really impressive. Ran, who have been some of the other guys who have really made their presence felt that you feel like are going to step up and take more of a leadership role in 2024? Well, we've had a ton of guys and I think Brian said it when like your first week here, we've had a high number of players just in the building every day working out on their own and that's been the cool thing and that's one of the blessings about being in Nashville that guys want to be here. All off season guys come here, whether you play a year or you play 20 years, most guys come here and make Nashville their home. So that's one of our advantages. So we have a ton of guys around but one guy I'll name is Taje. You know, Taje is a guy that he's been around. He cares a lot. I didn't know this prior to assigning but he and Tony Pollard have had a relationship that I don't even know how exactly they know each other but I know Tony reached out to Taje before he got drafted to kind of offer him advice and they kind of just kept in touch throughout this time and so when we brought these guys in the building for the first time, Taje was one of the guys in making sure that he's around, he's meeting everybody and meeting their families and so you start to see his leadership develop as time went on for him last year and so especially with Derrick no longer being here, there's a void particularly in that room that I know he's willing to step up and become the guy in that room. The one other guy that was the first phone call I made when I got the job was Jeffery Simmons. To me, Jeffery is who the Tennessee Titans are. He's to me the face of what our organization is and so I think that he's continuing his role. That's what he's been here but Jeffery's been great and he's been around as well and so having that, he's sort of like the Will Leviss of the defense and we've tried to keep in touch and make sure Jeffery was sort of aware of what we were doing and how we were doing it because he's a guy too that's a, he is the Tennessee Titans. When I think of Tennessee, I think of him because that's when I had to go game plan again so. Why did you start offensive line construction with Senator Lloyd Cushenberry from the Denver Broncos getting him to commit as quickly as possible? Well I think it starts with another fellow also by the last name of Callahan. I call him Big Coach, having Big Coach, a part of it being the best in the game at coaching O-line, guys want to be here. Guys want the opportunity to play for him. He's gotten a lot of people paid and so we had, again we talk about relationships and being relational, Big Coach over the last few years coached Ethan Posick, which was his center in Cleveland and Posick and Cushenberry, they train together, they're both LSU guys, they train together in the off season and so they had plenty of time to talk about what playing for Bill Callahan can do for your career and do for you as a player and so we identified him very early in the process as the best center in free agency and a young and ascending player who has a ton of great ball left ahead of him and so as a staff we identified him as a top target, our coaching staff agreed and at that point, I mean we didn't ask Ethan Posick to do anything but when it starts coming down and we're having these conversations during the tampering period with his agent, of course the agent communicates, hey, Tennessee called and then now those phone calls start from the players and then you get guys that you look up to stamping, the coaching makes it easy for us. Your dad is an unbelievable evaluator. I've wondered how much of the current offensive line room can he evaluate on tape and how much more will he need to see as you get on the field in the weeks to come to fully know them? Yeah, I mean he's evaluated every player on a roster, he watched every snap they all played, he's watched practice reps of some of the guys that didn't play a lot, so he's very aware of what we have currently on the roster, what we needed moving forward, where our deficiencies were, where we might have some strengths. So yeah, he's evaluated the whole thing from top to bottom, there's nobody better and obviously I'm biased but there's nobody better out there when it comes to both evaluating and coaching and so we made the move at center because center is that's the middle of your offensive line, that's the guy that where everything goes through the balls, he touches the ball every play, there's the communication aspect and if you're good in the middle of your offensive line in the interior, you're gonna have a chance to be a pretty good unit so that was sort of a key starting point for the offensive line and he was adamant that that was the guy that we target because that's the one where you, as you build out, you're building from inside out and those guys, you need a center and his ability to know exactly what he wants and how he wants it done is what makes him unique and he can't wait to get on the grass and get to know these guys a little further and actually coach but we got a pretty good feel for where we're at and where we need to head. How much of a help is that to you and the rest of the personnel staff ran that you can walk down the hall and you've got somebody that he says, this guy, yes and you can just be like, this guy, yes. I mean, maybe you don't take him because he doesn't fit the spot and you have other needs but the stamp of approval is realistically all you need if you want to go in that direction. I think it's an advantage for us as scouts and I think it's not only big coaches, all of our coaching staffs, the number one thing when we were talking with Cali during the interview process was being able to have a plan, not only have a plan but being able to articulate that plan and create the vision for what we need to do as a personnel department and both of our backgrounds, we have experience with what we call profile tapes which are basically highlights, if you will, of what you're looking for at every single position and being able to describe those attributes. And so we had a big meeting, one with the offense, one with the defense about what we're looking for at every single position from a skill factor and critical factor. And so for us as scouts now, we have a visual because these tapes are put together by the coaches. We have a visual as a reference point to always be able to go back to and to know what's required of playing our scheme. So it makes it really, really easy for us to know that although player A is a great player, he's just not a fit for what we do and that player B or C may be better options because they fit exactly our scheme and so it makes our job so much easier. Okay, we gotta wrap up. Seems like we've been going for five minutes but I told you we could go for three hours. I've got so much more but they obviously have to get back to work. The draft is approaching. Do you guys look at mock drafts, either one of you? I think there's an element of mock drafts that you have an awareness of because people are collecting information from all different parts of the league, from scouts, from coaches. Some of these people have good relationships around the league and so they do get accurate information sometimes. But never like one, but it's usually an aggregate of all the mocks so you just get an idea of where publicly maybe guys are, I guess being mocked to. What's your chances would be for a guy, for example, if you're picking a 38, what are the chances that X player is there? Well, and publicly in all the mocks, it's like a 10% chance that they make it to 38. So there's some things that do go into the mocks. I do not pay attention to what they say. It's just more about an aggregate of what the public perception is of players and teams. There is some accurate information in there sometimes. I bet Rand loves them. I love and hate them at the same time because it keeps me up at night. Part of one of the things that Sarah Bailey who runs our research and development department, one of the number one things I asked of her when she was hired was to create a draft predictor model. And it's kind of what he was talking about in knowing, showing us, and it's based on our grades, the coaches grades, mocks and a bunch of different variables, analytic variables. And it gives us a percentage of the chances that these certain players will be there at each one of our picks. And so we were talking about it this morning actually. And what goes into her model is there's over 400 mock drafts that are out there. Really? Yeah, there are over 400. Some could be my next door neighbor putting one online. Don't know, but there are 400 available mock drafts or over 400 available mock drafts that kind of go into our algorithm. So yeah, I pay attention unfortunately. But like Coach said, you know the reputable ones, the ones that have good relationships that might be tapped in. Right now we're 20, what's today? The fourth? 21 days. We're 21 days away, so three weeks away from the draft. They'll get better next week, a little bit more accurate next week. And probably the week of the draft is time to just turn off everything. Cause that's when the misinformation period starts. And so you don't want to get too caught. You go from the legal tampering period to the lying period, don't you? It's all lies. All right, we're going to wrap up with this. You gentlemen have been working together for two and a half months, roughly. And I'll start with you, Brian. In the two and a half months, what are you most excited to have gotten accomplished with Rand Carthon and with everybody else in the Titans organization? That's a great question. There's not been much time for reflection yet, unfortunately, it just seems like every day there's just something else coming that we have to keep moving forward on. So I haven't had much chance to reflect on the early part of this. It's been just every day something's coming. But what I am the most excited about and the most proud of so far, I think, is the way that we've worked together in the processes. In the, you know, we went from Rand and I working hand in hand, trying to get our staff hired, getting the strength coaches hired, the people that were involved in that process, starting the free agency process, getting the draft on there's just, it's been a really, really seamless starting point to now where everybody's just works in their role and does their job and we all work together and that part's been really enjoyable and I think that that's what attracted me here in the first place and to see that in action every day is really what's made that, you know, the fact that I got to come here and they offered me a job, but my decision to come here as well was that this is what I thought it would be and I think that that's probably the highest compliment I can pay to the people in the building right now is that it's exactly what I expected it to be and I think that that's bodes well for what's to come and I think that that's, to me, the most important part is the way that everything's been worked together on and collaborated on and everyone's pushed forward with the same vision that's been pretty outstanding to see in action. Yeah, it's the same for me, it's the relationship that's been developed not only between Callie and I, but just our staffs merging together and you're in the building and you're up and down the hallways and doing your thing, but I think everybody that comes into the building feels our building, they feel, we were just talking yesterday and we were like, man, because we've been having a bunch of draftees come in for what we call 30 visits because you're allowed to bring in 30 players and we kind of jokingly said to each other that if this was college recruiting, we'd be Alabama or Georgia, we'd get our... Tennessee, you mean? Notice I didn't say Florida, but... That was nice how you did that, you almost got it right, sorry. But I think that's a testament to not only who we are as people, but our coaching staff and our personnel staff and so to fully answer the question, the thing I've been most proud of is the great people that we've brought in and that's something that we care about a lot. It's a prerequisite to be a good coach, to be a good personnel person and to be a good football player to be here, but we care about the people, we're not gonna sacrifice that, we're not gonna sacrifice our building, our locker room because these people have to be stewards of the community and stewards of the organization and the state. So I'll just, these two gentlemen mentioned that they have the 30 visits and they're, how many in today? They're a bunch in today. Three. Yeah, so you gotta get back and so I'm gonna let them go and as we let them go, I think the thing that I have been most excited about and the people in this audience have been most excited about is the fact that we have had so much to be excited about in the last two and a half months. There have been a lot of fun days, we didn't even play the game yet. So Titans fans are fired up. Thank you both for making this happen. Thank you for taking the time for the Nashville Sports Council and for our great fans. Bryant Callahan, Rand Parson. Thank you guys. Thanks for having us. Appreciate it. Seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans, whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or any other event in Nashville, Seat Geek is the place to do it. Seat Geek, the new official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fans can fan. thanking the Nashville Sports Council for allowing us to share this with you. I'm Mike Keith. 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