 My own sense is that meditation is the tried-and-true way to investigate the nature of mind. And I think of psychedelics as, in some respects, meditation on steroids. And so to bring this up to the question about, well, so after the diagnosis, have you tried psychedelics, I did have a significant experience. In this case, it was with LSD. And I went in to use it as an opportunity to dialogue with the cancer.