 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 25 minutes... We get into some fun conversations. Adam, Justin, and myself get to talk and bullshit a little bit. First, we talk about The Punisher. It's a great series on Netflix. Justin turned us on to it. We talk about Ozark, another great one. Black Mirror, new seasons coming out. That creeped me out the first one. It actually affected me for like two days afterwards. We talk about Justin's personal EMP for... It's a good idea for robot dogs. I mean, somebody's out there finding out what that is. You're gonna have to listen to the episode to find out what I'm talking about. Sure. We talk about Archieco Trip. We went north. And we talk about why Doug's so angry because his overweight neighbors are having loud sex. They're smashing it. Two o'clock in the morning. We talk about the New Year's Fitness Rush. The movie Wonder and My Money Back Guarantee with that movie. That only applies to Adam and Justin. You'll cry with snot bubbles apparently. I promise you'll cry. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen. And then we opened up our Thrive Market box. We got some cashews. All kinds of goodies. Coconut cereal and some coconut oil for Justin's ashy knees. We have a lot of products in there we talk about. So by the way, we have a discount set up with Thrive Market for our listeners. All you gotta do is go to ThriveMarket.com forward slash mind pump. And this is what you're gonna get one month for free. You'll get $20 off your first three orders of $49 or more. And you'll get free shipping. We also in our show notes have links to all the products that we talk about in this episode. And then we get into the questions. The first question was are the mobility sessions in maps performance meant to be tough? Or is this person just a massive wimp? Wow. They're a wimp. The next question was can we talk about the difference between being anabolic versus being catabolic? What are those two? That's right. Listen to this question. Find out if we helped you out or we just made you more confused. Exactly. The next question was why are so many big box gym front desk staff visibly not fit? Apparently this person is annoyed that they walk into the gym and they're not attracted to the first person. They're attracted to the first person that they see right away. I feel you though. We have some stories about that. Adam talks about hot girls at the front desk again. The last question was Justin actually gets an opportunity. And I say it's an opportunity because he loves doing this. His favorite thing to do. It's the first question I've ever seen he did homework on. I've never seen him take notes first. He actually... I had to really put some effort into this one. He actually connects each one of the Mind Pump staff to a character in Star Wars. Here's a clue. He thinks he's Han Solo. No shit. That should say everything. Also, one of the best things that we have here at Mind Pump is our private forum. It is a wonderful group of fitness enthusiasts, people interested in fitness, people who are interested in comedy. There's a lot of funny memes that go on there. They're asking questions, posting their workouts, posting their diets. It's a fantastic resource. This month is the last time you will ever get to enroll in that forum for one price for life. So right now, for $97, you get access to it forever. You never have to pay that again. After this month, if you enroll in the forum, you'll have to pay $97 every year. So it'll be an annual fee. So right now, you can get in there, pay once, you're in there for life. Also, if you get in our forum right now, you'll get an offer, an immediate offer, to get 50% off, excuse me, if you enroll in any maps program, you'll get 50% off the forum. So if you're interested in one of our programs for fitness, like Maps Anabolic, which is great for strength and muscle building or math performance for athletic performance or Maps Aesthetic for your cosmetic-minded individuals or stage presentation individuals or Prime or Prime Pro for correctional purposes, if you enroll in any of those programs or even in a bundle, you'll get an immediate offer for 50% off for the forum as well. And again, if you do the forum now, you'll pay once and you'll be in there for life. If you have any questions on any of our programs, just go to mindpumpmedia.com. I started Punisher last night. You started watching Punisher? Yeah, I did. Was it good? It is good. Wait, it gets better. Ozark is more of my show, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what? That's a little too slow for me. See, you're definitely like the guy who loves all the X-Men movements. Let's go. Just action. I'll trade good plot, drama, or twist for action. Yeah, me too. But it's good. I like my mind to be fun. It's got good writing, though. It is. It's well written, and I do like the character. I like it. I guess what's coming out soon. Black Mirror, another season. Oh, I did see that. I saw that. Dude, you watched the trailer? I haven't even watched all the episodes. I haven't got through all the old ones yet. One of the trailers shows this robot attack dog that I think goes crazy. And people are trying to get away from it. There's one clip where she's looking off far into the distance, and you just see this thing traveling at an ungodly speed down the hill. No. And I'm just like, what? Yes, dude. So the movie, I told you guys, the second Kingsman, she has robot dogs that protect her. No, this is going to be a thing? Yeah. Damn it. It makes kind of sense, actually. Like regular dogs. Yeah, they're nice. It's not like warm. Make them crazy. And you can kill them if you need to. I'm not saying you would. If your dog went crazy and tried to attack you, like if it's a robot dog, what are you going to do? That's true. I mean, you're fucked. Shut it up. Pull the plug. Yeah, like a little EMP in your pocket, and you pull the battery out. Just drop the EMP in there? Just drop the EMP, bro. Too much. You've been watching. Where do you get an EMP? Matrix. Justin? I mean, we'll make them by then. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll have like first-world EMPs. Radio check. Radio check. I don't know. I'll just have it. It's like the new Taser. Yeah. You know? Just plow. Hey, was that your guys' first time in Chico? No. Yeah, it was. That was your turn? Your first time? But not Justin's. No. You'd party up there? No. My grandma lives close by up there, but yeah, I've partied up there before. So we went up there to... A whole lot of nothing up there on the way up there. There wasn't. Nothing. We went up there to hang out with the... Farmsville. With the girls from Cauliflower Foods. We did some like cooking videos with them. Yeah. And Chico's, I've never been there. It's a lot of college kids. I saw a lot of college kids when we went to the restaurant. It's very college-fuel. Yeah. I was like, hey, my people. I felt so out of place. I felt so out of place just in fit right in. And then we got carded. What? Yeah, that was funny. She's trying to get a tip. It's annoying. Yeah. Either you're trying... Gray hair, dude. Let's move on. Yeah, either you're trying to get a tip or you're stupid. There's no way I could be mistaken for somebody under the age of 21. Like, come on. That was no way. 25 maybe. Who are we kidding here? 121, no way. Maybe I'll get a tip. I'll get a tip. I'll get a tip. I'll get a tip. I'll get a tip. I'll get a tip. 121, no way. Maybe on my best day, my hair died. I'm wearing a bald cap. Dude, when I wear skinny jeans, maybe then I can pull off 27. When I look my best. 21. Yeah. That's like, your voice was all different. Your skin was all shiny. Yeah, that was like, you're obviously trying to... I am not fucking 21. Your liver was healthy. You know this. Yeah, when I met my best, when I met my absolute best, I looked my age. So there's no way that I could look at 21 at that point. Dude, this morning. Good time out there with the cauliflower foods girl, by the way. So we want to say, thank you ladies. Yeah, thanks for hosting us. Yeah, that was really nice. It took us out too. Good food. Got that brewery, right? It reminds me of Orchard City Kitchen over here in San Jose. Where it's like, farm to plate. Oh man. It was a very fresh feel to it. Dude, it's really good. They had these pretzels with cheese. That cheese was amazing. Oh god, the pretzel. What was it called? It was like some missile cheese or something. Oh no man. Some torpedo cheese. I don't know. It was aggressive. I think it was a German name. I don't think it was missile. Yeah. Well, it was like, it was like a spread. It was like a spread cheese. Delicious. I feel like we're drinking a lot more. Yeah, it's just alcohol. We never used to drink this much. What happens when we go out to dinner and, you know. I had a little bit. I had a bunch. No, I had a beer. You had a big beer. Yeah, it was a tall one. Did you get tipsy? I did have a little bit. Because I had some of those flights too. So I had probably three of those little flights. And then I had a beer. And that's enough to give me a nice little buzz. You get flirty when you drink. Do I? Yeah, yeah. Because you hit me in the ass twice. Whoa. And you hit Justin in the ass. Yeah. I think twice too. I didn't know that. Yeah. So I'm like, why are you flirting with him? And then Justin's like, he's drinking. It's like it's a target. Don't give him anymore. It's what he does. We don't want to go any further. Yeah. Dude, this morning was hilarious. So I come in early because I'm on a, I did an interview with Chris Crescer, who was a great guy by the way. Yeah. He was a medical medicine guru. What's the name of his podcast? Shout out to his podcast. Uh, good question. I think Doug's going to pull that up right now because I can't remember. See, this is what happens with them. You guys talk about me having a good memory. It's not, it's selective. It's not, it's selective. I can't choose. One direction. Yeah. I don't know what the hell's going on. Well, you also focus on the things you need to focus on too. Yeah. Which is the content you provide on the podcast. Somebody just sent me a thing to interview on their podcast. And they wanted me to fill out all this information. And so I get on there and I'm like, I'll have the information. I don't know. Like, what's our Skype and all this stuff. And I'm like, fuck, this is somebody else. His podcast is Revolution Health Radio. He's somebody, he's somebody I found initially when I got into, started learning about wellness because he had the articles online and stuff. And he was talking about all the things that I like to talk about now. So he's like one of my favorite people. He's a wealth of knowledge. So I'm getting in here. I'm on, I'm supposed to be on at nine o'clock, right? And I can't do the podcast without Doug, who's the producer. Because I have no idea. There's all these buttons and shit to sweat. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just going to sit here and talk. So I'm waiting and it's like 855, right? I need to be on at nine. You're sweating. Yeah, I'm texting Doug. Doug, what's going on, man? No! So Doug walks in, pissed. He's angry. Oh my God, yes. You're just telling me a little bit about this. Describe everything. He walks in, he's angry. He's like fucking neighbors. I'm like, what? Fucking keep me up all night. God damn it. He walks in, and he's pissed, and he's cussing like crazy. And I've known Doug long enough to know when he starts to get mad. Don't fuck with the angry chimps. No, no, no. You calm him down. Because if I start talking shit about his neighbors too. You massage his back a little bit. It'll elevate him, and then he gets crazy. So I'm like, I'm calming him down. I'm rubbing his tummy. He's like, hey, it's okay, bro. Anyway, he's getting real mad. So he said his neighbors, I guess, they just fucking don't, I guess they don't go to sleep or maybe they'd sleep at the daytime. But he's like, they woke me up at one. They woke me up at three. Loud ass TV, having sex right next to me. Super loud. Damn. He's like, and they only did it for like 30 seconds, but it kept me awake. It's so critical of the performance. He's making this, he's making the sounds. I heard of Ella face. He said, I couldn't even jerk off to that. It was so short. He's telling me the sounds. He's super mad. I don't know. What was that last part? Yeah, so anyway. You made it though, right? You made it. We made it. We got on the podcast, but if the neighbors are listening, my warning to you. I guarantee they don't listen to this show. They are the most unhealthy looking people I've ever seen. I feel like, I was telling you guys this on the drive, right? I think that a lot of people, if they're not working out, I think they don't listen to us. You think so? Yeah, I think it's like you feel guilty. Yeah, I think you feel guilty. Yeah, I think it's like that. Yeah, yeah, I know. I've been told that by some people. I run into somebody who considers themselves like an MP fan or listener, and they go, and I go, oh, have you listened to like the recent, I'll drop recent episodes. Oh, you listen to drama, burning shot. Oh, no, no. I haven't listened to a couple of months. I've been so busy at work, and I haven't been working out. It's like, oh, okay, I get this. This is like, when you're working out, you're listening to mind pumping. If you're not working out, you feel fucking guilty. Damn it. This is when you're supposed to be listening to us. It makes me wonder, because does that mean that our podcast will follow the fitness trend, like the fitness yearly fitness cycle? I think typically it would except for we are, I mean, we have every intention to break out of that. Right? That was hard. That was part of the LA trip of going down and doing drama, burning shot. Yeah, people weren't in fitness. Right. So I think that, I mean, I think we would get trapped in that if our message was forever around. Yeah, we're trying to break out. Only health and fitness. Yeah, because we've seen that it does resemble a lot of what we saw, you know, with 24-hour fitness and like the cycles people go through. Yeah, this is like Hell Months right now, dude. Hell Months in the health and fitness business. Like if you're in health and fitness in any aspect, right? I think right now is the most challenging time. It is so... To drum up business. It is so weird that it is so predictable. It's so predictable. Here's what happens. Dude, it's human psychology, man. Like November, December, suck, donkey dick in fitness. Like nobody comes in to work out, especially December. It's just dead. And that's ugly to watch. It sucks, especially if you run a gym or you're, you know, you're trying to produce sales or whatever. You're just tanking. And then January, and it's not even January 1st, because when I remember when I first got in fitness, everybody talked about January. The first week of January is basically extension of December. It's still kind of, and people start to trickle in. And then the second week of January, it's like the gates of hell just... Remember that scene in Ghostbusters? When they break the... Like the guy opens the gate to the freaking containment thing and all the ghosts... That's what it's like. It's like the doors open your gym. Okay. And all of a sudden... It's like more like Black Friday, you know, and everybody's smashing through the windows. Oh, dude. And then... Grab, like... Do you guys have any stories of like the busiest, some of the busiest days you can remember running gyms? Well, I remember... I remember... Dude, lines for the treadmill. Yes, the lines for the treadmills and having to police that, and having sign-ups for that. Like that was... Go around the building. Like I remember having to... What the fuck are you doing? I remember having to kick people off treadmills and what a shitty job that was. You remember just going up and hitting stop? You ever do that? I did. It's been taking too long. You just... No. Oh, dude, I had to do that. Oh my God, I feel like I've done that. I had to do that. I'd have to walk around. You could do it if I asked somebody, like after like the third time, I'm like, listen, hey, I need you to wrap it up here. You got somebody... You have two people that are waiting behind you and stuff like that. Just be courteous to everybody else. Maybe go do a different piece of equipment, right? And I'll come back a second time and then the third time, all right, fucking plugs begin to pull, dude. Dude, it got so bad, it got so bad that the gym would have a 20-minute time limit on all the cardio. I don't think you do that shit anymore. You have to make that announcement several times throughout the evening. You know, 20-minute time, attention to all members, yes, 20-minute time limit. And then... Which is such a silly rule, dude. There's no... I remember we tried to put like a spin on it. Yeah, I was just gonna say. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do remember. You remember we would sell it? Yeah, we would sell it. Like, well, when you go beyond 20 minutes, you're no longer burning body fat. Yeah, you've crossed over the other zone. You're burning muscle, so that's why you don't want to go over to... Yeah, you got to stay in that one zone. Not because we're trying to cram more people in here, that's not why. Yeah, that's not why. That's not why. Nothing to do with that. It's because we want you to have better results. I would give tours of the gym and I'll never forget, dude, people would come in and they... I'd give them a tour and I'd have to walk... You know when you're walking through a nightclub and you got to walk sideways, they like squeeze around people and shit. Oh, you do that shimmy. There would be segments of the gym where I'm doing that and I'd lose my guests. I'd have to wait because they have to make through the crowd like I'm at a club. They're like looking like over... Dude, come January 1, dude, Zumba fucking 400 people. 400 people. You know why? It's the one class you could do the first day. It's so easy to just get up and go. I can move my hips. Yeah, the more you move your hips and flail your arms, the more you can do what you're doing. Did you guys ever have lines in the bathroom, showers? Oh, yeah. Lines in the showers is always funny because you see people just dudes just staying there naked with their towels. Staring at other dudes naked. I'm like, listen, double up. Both of you guys use the shower heads together. It's faster. It's faster that way. I wash you, you wash me. Yeah, but it's a crazy season but how long does that rush last usually? Three months. March after the end of March. So April 1st, it really starts to dip. Now, did you guys find that February was more for personal training? Yeah. February was massive. It was like huge in my business. I used to say that it takes two weeks before the real traffic hits in January because everyone's still hung over from New Year's and most people are like, I'll get there. I'll get there. One week goes by and they're like, okay, I gotta get there. They're selling the membership. That's huge for January 1. Yeah, the back half of January, February, and March was always probably one of the biggest months I've ever been. Yeah. Like then the momentums from the January is kicking in and all the people have trained a few times with trainers and now they're up for recessions. I mean, it's... It got to a point where I would go through the cycle enough times to where January starts to come around and I'd remember feeling like, okay, here we go. 30 days of no taking days off. Straight, like grinding. Yeah. Bell to bell. I remember... I loved it though, dude. I'm not gonna lie. You know, there was a lot more energy. I relished in that too. There was a point though where I was like, okay, like this is the same thing. You know what I mean? You get kind of sick of the whole... Because in December, here's what I would do in December. Everybody's taking time off. I was working hard in December because it was so slow. So it wasn't like, oh, I'm fresh, ready for January. It's like, I'm tired from December. And now January's coming. Well, I told you guys that it's... In my career, November was always... So my birthday month, I'd say it's always happened this way and a lot of that is just because I'm a workaholic at that time. I know that I was gonna buy something for myself for my birthday because that's what I do, all right? So I used to get myself something nice every year and I would work my ass off to whatever that was gonna be. So I would just grow... And I also looked at it like, this is when most people are letting off the throttle. That's what I always picked up on is when everybody's slacking is when I would rev it up even harder because you knew that you're gonna get all the business because they're fucking slacking off. Yeah, everyone's taking trips and holiday stuff. They're not taking the walk-ins. They're not doing a lot of stuff. Yeah, everybody's already in holiday mode where they're just not really ready to work. And the business is already down. So there's already that excuse for like, oh, it's November, oh, it's December, you know. Crazy. Did I tell you guys about the movie Wonder? Yes. Yes, you did. Dude. Too sad, bro. How was that? Listen to me right now and I'll give you your money back. I'll give you your money back if you don't agree. Go watch Wonder. If it's not one of the best movies you've ever seen, I'll refund you. I'm not talking on the podcast to you guys, by the way. I'm not refunding my family. I just wanna see it in the comfort of my house, though. I'll do it with you guys. I'm gonna wail like a little kid, you know. Dude, no joke. 30 seconds in. Right away. 30 seconds in. You're already like, dude, my girlfriend on my right, my mom on my left. And they took terms, not crying, sobbing. Oh, man. It wasn't like a normal like, you know, some tears are coming down. That's not my kind of party. But it's not crying. Can you give me anything to compare it to? Because I was asking you, I'm like, what is it? Like forest gump? Yes. Yes, I was just gonna say that. Remember how forest gump would make you want to cry because it was so good and powerful and touching? It's like that. But probably more so, especially for you, Justin, because you're a parent and you'll identify with the parents and what they have to go through. But it's a good, it's a feel good cry. It's not like a terrible, like... That's what forest gump reminds me of. Yeah, it's not like Schindler's List. When I watched Schindler's List, I cried and then I felt terrible for a week after. And I was like, fuck that movie. Tragedy, yeah. No, wonder, I watched it and I felt like I was a better human afterwards. I felt literally like, I'm gonna be a better person. Yeah, definitely. You're selling me on it now. In my own house. And the message that we share on the show, it's very, very much so. You see it in this movie. Oh, really? Yes, dude. Okay, you got me interested in it. Yes, very, very much so. We'll go see it. What is... Oh, today is Wednesday, huh? Yeah. I was gonna say Tuesday, you get the deal over at Oak Ridge. No, don't go to Oak Ridge. You know where you go? Where? Almedin Cine Lux, next to the 24 Fitness in Willow Glen. Yeah. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. And if you buy tickets on Fandango or whatever, you can pick your seats ahead of time. So you don't have to show up early. You just pick your seats and go. Okay. That's where I go, dude. Hey, Fandango, hit us up. It's not as nice. Like the seats aren't... They're not bad or anything. They're not as nice. But the screen is good. The sound is good. Everything's good. Okay. Popcorn's not bad. That's the way to go. Popcorn's not bad. Get your seat way ahead of time. But dude, I walk... You know what we do? We sneak cheeseburgers in Katrina's purse. That's what we do. She brings her big purse and we get... That's why I like going to the mall. Wait a minute. I get buck cheeseburgers. You're not joking? You actually sneak a cheeseburger? She have, bro. We go to... This is literally... You got a big purse? Yeah, she's one of those big Louis purses. You know what I'm saying? We sneak cheeseburgers in there. So we... Hey, that's another one. You can do it. Save serious money? No. You can sneak cheeseburgers. So our go-to is we'll call Buckhorn Grill at the mall because it's in the mall in the food court. And I love Buckhorn Grill. Anyone's had it before. You can get it tried to. All kinds of great stuff. But I love their California burger. And Katrina and I will both get a couple burgers and she'll put them in her purse and then we'll go in and then we'll eat a hell of good burger watching. Otherwise, you know why? The smell of the popcorn always gets me. And then I get full on popcorn and I always... It's so good going down. It's empty inside. And it ruins me later on. My stomach is always up because I'll crush a whole box of that shit. The popcorn? Yeah. You know what else? I'm not a popcorn eater. Then I feel like shit afterwards. So you're that jerk in the movie theater that just fills the theater with smells? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The day that they started selling hot dogs in all the freaking closements... I can have a hot dog smell. I hate that. Especially if you put rail issues. A good California... A good California... A good California buckhorn grill. People should be going like, oh, that smells. It's not that it's a fucking boiled hot dog. Savory. Boiled hot dogs. Smells like shit. Hold on a second. It's not that the smell is bad. It's that it doesn't match the scene. You know what I'm saying? Like if I brought like right... Let me put it this way. I don't think it's strong enough to outpower the 40 things of fucking popcorn behind me. Let me give you a good example. You go to over here, Scramble's the breakfast place next door, right? Over there. And you smell... Baking an egg. You smell eggs. Not a problem. Now you're at the doctor's office. Somebody's eating scrambled eggs right next to you. Fucking stinks. It doesn't match. Somebody's complaining about their infection. And you're just like... Eggs with the fucking... Eggs and infection. This doesn't mix. It's gross. So it just doesn't match to smell hot dogs and burgers. It's got my boil removed. Oh God. I don't want to smell food like other kinds. Popcorn makes sense. But not like, you know, pizza and all these other foods. Unpack that. How funny is that? It's true, right? Yeah. Unpack that. That's really funny to me. We even think that way, right? It's like, this doesn't work. It doesn't smell right. It's a bad combo. I'm trying to change that, man. So I was teasing my kids the other day. We were in the car. I don't remember what I ate, but here's one of the things. For those of you listening who don't have kids yet. Those of you guys out there that don't have kids. There's a few things that you get to do when you're a dad. Dad jokes. Yeah. That's amazing. That alone makes it worth it. Yeah. And fart. Farting in front of your kids. They love it. Not that they love it or hate it. You love it. I think it's the funniest thing in the world. So we're in the car. My kids love it. We're in the car. We're driving. I ate to know what I ate. We're all joking around. I hit the child lock on the windows. And I drop ass, right? And it's bad. It's like, it's one of the, it reminds me of old school. It's an old school protein fart. You know what I'm saying? Where it smells like. Bro, you dropped one of those like outside the Cali flower house. Think how he did that. Outside. I did. So I killed it. I killed it in the car. And my kids are screaming. Oh, by that door. My daughter's threatening to roll out, jump out the car while we're driving. She was like, hugging the window. And my son is like, he's laughing. And then he's not even tripping. He's just sitting there. And I'm just like, you know, I'm like, it doesn't bother you? Like I'm looking at him like, he's trying to be a badass, right? It doesn't bother you? He's like, no, he's like, it just smells like eggs. He goes, I just picture that it's real eggs that I'm smelling. I'm like, brilliant. No. It's true. Like if it was like a boy, we got to change it. Yes. You know, if I had a boiled egg and I'm waving in front of you and you smell it, it wouldn't be as bad as if like, oh, it's Adam's fart. You know what I mean? Smart kid. Yeah. You could go in the direction of like, you know, the like, you know, you've been to like a volcano or like where it's real sulfury. Yeah. Yeah. You go with one of those. Yeah, but it just smells like a really powerful part. It's just one of those signals and signs that I'm getting for my kids and I'm doing a good job. You know, I'm raising them right. All right. What do we got, Doug? Oh, we're doing an opening boxing. What's the bird? It's the bird market box. Oh, I love this segment. Here we go. Let me tell you something right now. There's been a handful of things that we've done in this business where we've like all graduated ourselves a lot. This, but yeah, but this is one of my favorites. Whose idea was this anyway? Who gets the credit? Was it you Adam? Yeah. Good job, brother. Good job. If nobody was going to claim it, it was going to be you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, technically I told him about it and he said, ah, that was the inception. All right, what do we got, Douglas? Okay. Today's box is entirely made up of Thrive Market brand items. Okay. So no, none of the other brands, just the Thrive Market brand. So we have here, we have Thrive Market coconut oil. Oh, who's that going to? Well, you know, anybody who wants to dump in their coffee here. I'm all about like more fat. I think Justin should rub that on your knees. We should all vote rub it all over my chest. My wife will love it. It's a good moisturizer. Thrive Market black peppercorns to go with our Himalayan salt. Oh, there you go. That sounds good. There you go. By the way, black pepper increases the assimilation and absorption of certain nutrients. You'll notice in supplements many times I'll have black pepper. Oh, I have seen it before. Interesting. We got some coconut flakes. Thought we'd try these out. Oh, it's a cereal. It's, yeah. It's paleo friendly. There's no grains in it. I have kids. I'll take it. Wow. Yeah. I want to try it. Then you can take it. I'm just curious. My bad. We get it. All right. Grab that, Justin. I want it. Yeah. Behind you. All right. So let's see this. To keep our place clean, you know, Thrive Market has cleaning products. Oh, there we go. So we have some all-purpose cleaner. All of them guests to be putting their grubby fingers on our fucking clear window over here. Yeah, exactly. So we're going to try this out and see how clean we can get this place. You know what? I didn't know that they sold cleaning supplies. That's great. Oh, they sell a lot of stuff. Do they sell detergent, like laundry detergent? You know, I don't know. It's all natural, too, right? You'll find that out. It's all natural. Did you know, you know some of the residues and shit that are like certain detergents and softeners leave on your clothes are like Xeno estrogens. All kinds of chemicals. Yes. Not good. Residue on there, yeah. How do we go to our weekly nut selections? Show us your nuts. Show us your nuts, Doug. I'm going to show you my raw Brazil nuts. Oh, yeah. Going exotic. Raw Brazil nuts. I don't know if I've had those before. Just let me see those. Brazil nuts sometimes on women in Brazil. Ooh, those are big and brown. Organic pumpkin seeds. Again, all these are Thrive Market. I want some of those right now. Pumpkin seeds are anti-parasitic. Did you know that if you eat- I get down on these. There's a compound in pumpkin seeds that paralyzes parasites. So if you eat them often, it'll paralyze a parasite. It'll unlatch itself from your intestines. Shit them out. And you'll poop them out? Wow. And then another bag of dry roasted organic salted cashews, because these tend to disappear very quickly. Doug, so the Thrive Market brands, which we're dipping into right now, because the pumpkin seeds are awesome, are these cheaper than the other brands? Absolutely. Oh, wow. Man. Well, there you go. Thank you, Doug. That's like a cornucopia of Thrive right there. This quiz brought to you by Organifi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organifi fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health and performance the added edge. Try Organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organifi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from AlexAld99. Are the mobility sessions and performance meant to be somewhat tough, or am I just a big wimp? LOL. Good to break it to you. Performance is the business. Sweat. Some people sweat when they do these, and they irradiate and really tense up and get through these mobility movements. It's just fun because it's so different for a lot of people that it is challenging, man. It's challenging to really go through the process and be diligent in it and really connect to your body on that level. It can be challenging for sure. Mobility sessions are workouts. It's not like... Trigger sessions like in MAPS anabolic are meant to be very low intensity. Mobility sessions, although they're not high intensity, they're still workouts. So, yeah, you're going to feel like you're doing something. Now, the focus of them isn't building muscle or burning body fat, although they do contribute to that because they improve mobility. The focus of mobility sessions is to give you more control over your body in different ranges of motion. It's to complement the MAPS performance workouts. I think if you were to compare the MAPS programs in terms of total intensity and workload, MAPS aesthetic has a lot of volume, and MAPS performance, especially Phase 4, that's going to kick your ass. You're going to get an ass beating. Performance is the most challenging for me. If there's anything I neglect the most, like I love hypertrophy, I love strength type training. If I neglect anything, it's mobility work and multi-planier stuff, rotational stuff, which is all inside of me. Uncomfortable. Yeah, but I also think that most people are probably listening to this podcast unless you're somebody who's currently an athlete right now, but the average Jane or Joe that's 25 years or older and just working out in the gym and has a normal job, Green is probably one of the most beneficial programs that we have as far as what they all need to do. And the fact that it kicks your ass is kind of a reminder. If I had to pick a MAPS program to live in for the rest of my life, so I'm not allowed to change out of it, it would be performance because it's so well-rounded in terms of movement. You're going to build some muscle. You're going to build some strength. You're going to have endurance. You're going to have power. You're going to get a lot from it. And the mobility aspect of it. And the mobility aspect of it. And mobility training or paying attention to mobility will contribute tremendously to your aesthetic goals. So if your goal is just looking good, you can get away with not doing mobility-focused stuff for a little while, but not for a long while. At some point, it'll become your limiting factor. So like, we had Dr. Jordan Shallow on the show a while ago, and he said that somebody will say like, oh, when I deadlift, my back will kind of hurt. So I think it's because my hips are weak and I need to strengthen my hips. And he's like, no, the limiting factor is your back. You're injuring yourself because that becomes your limiting factor. If you're able to strengthen these areas, it's like the weakest link in the chain. Yeah. If you're only strong in the ranges that you train. And so this helps to express that even further. It stretches it out. So you get stronger along that range. So that way now you have even more capacity for overall strength. So it contributes to the whole. So if you can treat your body as a whole, not just certain movements that you get skilled in. So if I'm going just end range to end range and I'm not focusing on everything in between or twisting or different types of movements out of the joint, then you're not going to be strong in functional things that occur throughout your day. So I guess it's the most parallel to being strong just throughout your whole day and activity-wise. Bottom line, it's the one that most people need. And we talk about this on the show all the time that we tend to gravitate towards something that we enjoy, we love, we like to do. It's the good stuff we're good at. Yeah, it is. And I think once you start to recognize and you realize that, then you do your best to move out of those modalities and into ones that are going to benefit you the most. And in my experience, most people get crushed in map screen because it's such a different adaptation compared to anything else that they've been doing. Which means it's probably one of the best things you could possibly do for your body. It is. Think about it this way. I don't have to make the argument, especially if you've been working out for a while. I don't have to make the argument that barbell squats, deadlifts, overhead presses, bench presses. I don't have to make the argument that those are the most effective exercises for building muscles. Those are the loudest signals. Everybody pretty much agrees. There can be some debate and argument, but for the most part, most coaches and trainers will tell you, unequivocally, those are the best exercises. Now imagine if you could do those exercises better. So whatever your potential is, the potential is that you're squeezing out of a barbell squat, you can increase that potential by becoming more mobile in the squat. So now that barbell squat, however effective it is for you, has only increased its effectiveness for you because you've now worked on your mobility. So we've had, when we first released MAPS Performance, that was the second program we released, if I'm not mistaken. We did MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance. So it was early on when MIME Pump was on the air. And one of the first, one of the cool things about it is that we, I used to get all these messages from people who, you know, we would convince people, like do MAPS Performance, get in MAPS Performance, watch what happens. And I'd have people who'd be like, okay, I completed MAPS Performance. I went back to MAPS Anabolic or at that point we had MAPS Aesthetic afterwards and they'd go to MAPS Aesthetic. And they're like, dude, I'm building muscle like I'd never have before because I can move better. I didn't realize how important, you know, this kind of training is to even just building aesthetic muscle. It's a huge, huge factor. And here's the other thing too. If you like the fun factor of exercises, then Performance is it as well because you're gonna be doing all these different movements that are not your traditional, you're doing your traditional movements too, but you're doing a lot of non-traditional movements. But mobility is a huge focus in the program and it should be at least somewhat of a focus in your workout. You may not have to do, you know, hypermobility focus forever, but at least, at least if you're exercising consistently, you should have at least one day a week where all you do is focus on movement and mobility. It's just getting strong in different directions, you know, on like a real like generic kind of a statement. Like I, you know, in my brain, I've been researching a lot with isometrics and I've been researching a lot with the ways of getting, you know, this muscular irradiation and what that even means and that whole process and really like what they're finding and what they've found over the years, it's the more you can get your body to feel stabilized and under control and you can teach like your central nervous system is gonna respond accordingly. So if we can get to that place where you can sort of quiet down that governing shutoff system where, you know, your body, it freaks out. It's like, I'm, you know, I don't want you to get hurt. I don't want to get hurt in this direction. I don't want to get hurt lifting this type of a weight, you know, that message is always going to be there, but we have to actually train the body to respond accordingly. And so to be able to kind of provide stability quicker, you know, that's something that mobility is very good at. And so, you know, to now take that and carry that into a regular lift where now I can quickly get into a stabilized control controlled environment. Now I can produce even more force. So this force is something new that you're gonna be able to generate and then take with you. Excellent. All right guys, before I go to the next question, I just wanted to ask you a question. What is it Douglas? It's a question that somebody else or you question for you from you? From me. Oh, okay. Yeah. Or somebody else. Hold on, I got the answer. Yes. Nine inches. Did I guess right? Is that what you wanted? No, that was not my exact question. No, my question is, do you have life insurance? Oh. I don't. You see, I don't think any of our listeners know that I'm actually a long-term life insurance agent. Yeah, actually, I actually have a policy, an old policy with Doug. Yeah. For life insurance. I did not know that. That's how Doug. I do. Trying to get your hustle on right now, is that what's going on? Yeah, I'm trying to sell you guys. No, the reason I bring this up is because there's no better way to create an instant estate than through life insurance. A lot of people are going through life unprotected, especially if you have small children. Yeah. If you have small children and you don't have a life insurance policy, you're making a very serious mistake. That's right, Justin. No, I know, I've considered it. You're a bad father, dude. Listen. Yeah. You're a lawyer. A lot of people say, okay, well, I'm just going to make a lot of money or I'll save a lot of money, but hey, you know, you never know when the reaper may call. So what are you pitching to us right now? Are you trying to get me to begin? You're already making enough mind pump money to get more money for me. No, I'm doing this for all of us because there's a company that's called Health IQ. I've heard of these guys. Yeah, I think they're a pretty big company and they're kind of competitors with me, but I thought, well, let's bring it out to the general mind pump audience what they offer because they're really focused on helping athletes get life insurance for less money. You know what's funny? Because they're healthy, is that why? Well, no, so here's a funny thing. I've done life insurance in the past and then I did one with Doug and somebody comes out and they weigh you and they do all these tests and stuff and I always have to explain myself and go through this whole fucking process because for my height, I'm overweight. Yeah, you're BMI. It's high. Yeah, I know, that's always a problem. So these people understand that? They understand this. And so this is one of the hurdles you may jump through with another company, especially if you're muscular. They're going to say, well, you know, you're outside of that preferred rate class. And they'll charge you more. They'll get more muscular shamed. And they'll charge you more. They'll charge you more for insurance. That's ridiculous. It could be substantially more. But not this company. Well, what they're going to do is you're going to go take a quiz. You're going to go through a little bit of a process and see what you qualify for, but they're going to take that into account. We should all take that quiz just to see. What do we do? Is it a free quiz? It is free. Okay. So you'd go to healthiq.com. Oh, we got obviously Doug sets up. Yeah, of course. Of course. If I'm going to take business from my own pocket, I'm going to give it to everybody. Okay. How about that? But, you know, Side hustle over here we don't know about. No, the truth is, you know, let's check it out. That type of thing. Let's check it out. I'm down to check it out. I'll take the quiz. We'll see it. I'll give it something that maybe we'll talk to these guys about. So healthiq.com.com. Free quiz and then they'll give you an estimate. Yeah. I'll give you a quote. A quote. Well, there you go. Let's do it. And if you decide that you want to go through and do something with them, they're going to take you from start to finish to get the policy issued. Now, can we take out, can I buy a policy for someone else? Like for example, can I buy a life insurance policy for Justin predicting that he may get them so negligent? He may get some random accident. Well, there's something called insurable interest. You have to have an insurable interest. So it's possible, for example, us as a business, we could get life insurance on each other. Wow. Like key man insurance, that type of thing. Oh, cool. Interesting. But you just can't go to some random stranger and say, hey, you know what? They may be hit by a bus, wink, wink. And I want to have a $10 million policy. It doesn't work that way. Poison Adam protein shake. Yeah. It was my plan. But I'm going to encourage everybody, if you do not have a policy, especially if you have kids, check these people out. Awesome. Because it's not that expensive, and it could be very valuable for your family, especially if something happens to you. Thanks, Doug. Next question is from LouisKD. Can you guys talk about anabolic versus catabolic and how much being in a catabolic state affects trying to gain muscle and lose fat? Such buzzwords for advertisement. Yep. Yep. You know what? Such buzzwords to sell people on fucking either supplements or a program. I mean, we know that. That's anabolic and catabolic. You're either one of them. They're two metabolic processes. Yeah, and they're both important. My muscles are getting eaten. They're both important. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, they're both very... Because we all are like, everybody run away from being catabolic. Catabolic is required to break down... To burn fat. And break down molecules for energy. If we're burning fat, we're catabolic, bottom line. So catabolic is important. So is anabolic. And anabolic, everybody's chasing to be anabolic because that's what builds muscle. But when you're anabolic, you're also primed for building fat on your body, too. So there's both... There's a give and take. Both are good. Both are bad. I think that... I think there's too much emphasis put on, you know, oh, I'm trying to get it to be anabolic or I'm trying to be catabolic. I think they're... Or stay away from being catabolic. The other thing to consider is that you're not all one or all the other usually most of the time. You can actually... They can happen at the same time. So I can... Although it's not as common, I can definitely burn body fat, which is a catabolic process of breaking down fatty acids into molecules that my body can use as energy and burn while being anabolic and building, you know, muscle and muscle tissue. So they can happen at the same time. Both processes are very important. Can they technically happen at the exact same time or are you looking like in an overall window of like 24 hours or 48 hours? You know, that's a good question. I'm not quite sure. I would say... So I would tell you, from what I've read, it's you can't be... Technically, you cannot be... You're either or at any single moment. But let's say you're like in a fasted state. Let's say I'm two days fasted and I train and I get lifting a heavy session. So I send that anabolic signal but my body's not primed to build because it's not... I haven't been fed. The moment I feed though, I can go from being catabolic right away to being anabolic. Well, so the way I would look at it is let's say you're recovering which if you do everything right that recovery adaptation phase is anabolic, right? So I've worked out, I've sent the signal now my body is... Protein synthesis is increased so muscles are building but let's say I'm in a bit of a deficit with my calories. Some of the energy needed to... Will get prioritized to building the muscle. You may get taken from fat, my fat. So I may be catabolic in order to become anabolic and the reason why I'm saying this and we're splitting hairs is because in fitness, anabolic is everything. Everything's anabolic, anabolic. Catabolic is important. I have... Catabolic has been demonized like crazy. That's right. Here's the... So the energy for being anabolic, you require energy. You release energy with catabolic. Hormones associated with being anabolic are estrogen, testosterone, insulin and growth hormone. Hormones associated with being catabolic. Adrenaline, cortisol, glucagon, excuse me, and cytokines. Things that break energy down. They're both important processes and exercises can also fall in either category. So resistance training is known as an anabolic activity because it's promoting the building of muscle tissue. Cardiovascular activity can be categorized as catabolic and these are general categories because as I'm doing that cardio, I'm trying to just burn calories and after I'm done, my body really isn't trying to build muscle as a result. So as far as trying to gain muscle and lose body fat, they both work together. If you push and always try and stay in one and not the other, you'll run into problems. If I'm always trying to build and store energy, I'm going to become obese. What I see most common is the guys that are chasing, especially in body building world and circuits, everyone's trying to chase to be anabolic. Their thought process is consuming, consuming, consuming. So keeping insulin high, keeping that all. But what ends up happening is you just end up putting on body fat and then you end up getting to a point where you put on so much body fat that testosterone starts to lower and then it's counterproductive to what you're trying to do. So this chasing the being anabolic or thinking that you need to be anabolic all the time in order to build muscle is false also. If you're anabolic a couple of times a week, you can still put on plenty of muscle and still burn plenty of fat and they're not going to be conflicting signals that you're sending to the body. And what's funny is you'll have bodybuilders who will take catabolic hormones, getting ready for a show to try and get leaner, so they'll take like thyroid hormone. And thyroid hormone is a catabolic hormone. It tells the body to burn. You mean like clembuterol or something? No, clembuterol is not thyroid. I thought it does affect your thyroid. I know it's a beta agonist, but it's not thyroid hormone because you'll have guys actually taking like T3 or T4 or Synthroid, right? Got it. And those are catabolic and you'll see people, especially natural bodybuilders who are like, oh, bodybuilders take thyroid to get ready for a show. So I'm going to take thyroid and then they lose muscle because it's so catabolic that they end up losing everything. Well, so that's why I brought that up. That's what happened to me the first time I experienced clembuterol. Oh, did you? Oh, yeah. Because I never used it before and I was leaning out and I used it and I was losing so fast. I couldn't consume enough. And weight was falling. Yeah, I leaned out, but a ton of muscle came on me too. Really? And I noticed a decrease in strength really quick. Ifedra used to do that to me. And it's not supposed to. It's supposed to kind of help you. It's supposed to be anti-catabolic. But when you're somebody who already has a really fast metabolism, so think of what happened. And had a deficit. And remember, this was like the first time I'd really been in a deficit. My whole life I was bulking, bulking, and then I also decided to lean. And I was already leaning down just fine. And I decided to throw a clembuterol on top of it and was just doing gasoline. Oh, dude. You never took like T3? You never took cytomel? I didn't fuck with T3. What else? I messed with Winstrawl. I did that. Yeah, it was all testosterone derivative. Yeah. Here's the thing. I'll say this. You definitely want, we've talked about this many times on the show, you definitely want to make being anabolic part of your fat loss journey. And you definitely want to play with being catabolic when you're trying to gain muscle. So I'll explain why. If you build muscle, you'll burn more calories all the time. You'll have a faster metabolism. That's an easy one to sell nowadays. Now, why would you ever want to be a little catabolic when you're trying to gain muscle? Mainly because it actually increases your body's sensitivity to being anabolic. If I fast... Right, dude. Be catabolic for two days and turn around and fucking feed and watch what happens. Your body... If you feel more anabolic, you've ever felt. God, I mean, come on. Is there any other... Do you ever gain muscle faster than after a show, after coming off of hardcore catabolic dieting and stuff? You just gain muscle like a mutant after a show because your body's like... It's like a sponge ready to suck everything up. It reminds me of debating the small meals myth, like the thermogenic effect. It's all relative, right? So it's like, yeah, you could have three days of over-consuming calories trying to chase yourself and be anabolic for three days in a row straight. Or you could be catabolic for one of those days and then anabolic for the next day and that the spike, how much more anabolic you're going to be that second day after the two days of you staying in this surplus all the time. Like it's probably a wash or you probably actually are doing better. You're basically hacking the system. So if you're trying to gain muscle and you want to be anabolic most of the time or whatever that's your goal, you should definitely be anabolic in terms of your diet and training most of the time, but not all the time. You don't want to be in this consistent every single day bulk, bulk, bulk, bulk mentality because you'll notice diminishing returns. Your body will just start gaining body fat and you'll start gaining less muscle and all that stuff. So you want to throw in some days where you're being a little catabolic and the opposite is true for people losing body fat. Body builders have known this for a long time. They've kind of taken advantage of it and called it cheat days and all that stuff with diet, but if you're trying to burn body fat, throwing in a day or two of calorie surplus, oh, it'll work wonders on your metabolism. Next question is from HaveNamey. Why are so many big box gym front desk staff visibly not fit? Or is this just at Good Life gyms in Canada? Oh, shit. It doesn't make me want to join when the staff are not in good shape or even obese. I used to get into this with my operations manager and I used to fight about this all the time. She would hire. Well, I used to share. Definitely a thing. So I don't know how many operations managers I've worked with in my probably somewhere between 15 and 20 in my entire career and I used to share the same story with all of them. I remember being a 17-year-old boy not making a lot of money. I was working part-time, going to school and had to pay for my own gym membership so affordability was important, convenience was important, but so was the front desk girls being hot. I drove an extra 30 minutes across town to the front desk girls that were cute, that were checking me in, that were cute and fit. True story, so did my two buddies who joined memberships for me. We went out of our way for that and that was the selling factor. When you look at the gym too, it's full of 17 to 25-year-olds and now it's not to say that you can't and what hurt their excuse back is this. It's so hard to find those girls that are organized and have it all. And then also you're paying them minimum wage. So she's hot, she's smart and that she's probably not working for a minimum wage at the front desk so it's kind of like this give or take relationship. But I used to get into this all the time with my own because those are the gatekeepers in my opinion. That's your first introduction. You don't know the difference between a sales counselor, a manager, a fitness manager, trainers, gym goers on there. You just see this person at the front. It's not to say a personality can't carry that but it has to be somebody that's really embraced. You come in and you're like, oh, I love this person. But you need that. You want them to kind of reflect fitness a little bit. You don't got to be bodybuilders. So here's the thing. We're talking about a big company, right? This company that she's talking about, the gym is called what? Good Life. Good Shape or whatever. Good Life. Which is probably like a, you know, just like a 20. Yeah, it's a chain. So they probably got hundreds, possibly thousands of employees. So it's different than, you know, you opening your wellness facility. It's easier for you to manage. You're for sure going to make sure that girl or guy represents, you know, what your brand is all about. It would be, it's funny that people get offended by this, by the way, because it's really no different than going to a dentist's office and your dentist and the oral hygienists have terrible teeth. It will definitely hurt your business because they're there to represent, you know, healthy teeth. Well, people working in gyms do reflect, you know, fitness. Now that being said, some of my best staff ever were visibly not fit. Now there's a difference though. These were people that I had pulled off of the workout floor who were... Beloved. They were actively involved in fitness and changing their life. And they had such a positive, you know, connection to fitness. They may have already lost 50 pounds. And those people were some of my best employees because they weren't working at my gym to get paid minimum wage to work my front desk. They were working at my gym because fitness was changing their life. They loved it, they wanted to work there so they could become a part of it and they continued to make it a part of life. Those people sold my gym. That's another reason why you got to be careful too because you never know that the... Yeah, they've lost a ton of weight. Right, the overweight girl at the front desk who's scanning you in right now, for all you know, she's down 50 pounds and she's been changing her life, you know what I'm saying, for the last two years or whatever. So you don't ever want to make that assumption. You can always see based off the habits and what they're eating and, you know... It's a lot. I remember he used to drive me crazy because then they go for a lunch break. He'd smell McDonald's through the gym. And the break room, I'm like, what are you fucking doing? You can't walk McDonald's into my gym and people smell that. That's ridiculous. Dude, I took one time... And I don't care, you're gonna go eat what you're gonna eat, especially if you're a dude trying to gain muscle like I would sometimes eat this food but better believe that I'm bringing that in my gym because I know how it looked. I remember one time I had a sales guy who I told him, I'm like, listen, I don't care if you're gonna eat McDonald's. I don't care if you're gonna eat that kind of stuff. Obviously he doesn't represent fitness and health, but whatever. What was his name? Mike. I'm not gonna say his last name. But he was... We called him Planet because he was on this constant bulk. So he would drink weight gainers while eating burgers. And he was definitely a big dude, but he was also obese. So he was like this big dude with a big belly. His face and neck were always red because he was on tons of anabolic steroids. So he'd eat like ridiculous fast food to try and get calories in. Definitely shouldn't have been on bulk. It should have stopped five years ago, but he's still doing it. And I used to tell him, listen, man, I don't care if you eat this food. I know what you're trying to do. I get it. Just don't bring it in the gym and don't throw your wrappers and shit in your garbage that's right next to your desk where you're gonna take guests and sit down and try and sell them a membership because you look like a big-ass hypocrite. So one day I was fed up like he kept doing this and I walked by and sure enough, not only does he have a big coke sitting on his desk, but he's also in his garbage is jack-in-the-box, you know, bags and shit. This was at Santa Teresa. So I took his garbage and I dumped it all over his desk. I paged him on the intercom and I called him Planet on the end. I was a dick. You know, Planet, get over here to your desk and clean this jack-in-the-box. I said it over the whole intercom and he took it off and he was a good sport about it and I'm like, listen, dude, if I ever see that in here again, I'm gonna throw it in your desk. And I said, and next time I'll throw it in your desk when you have a guess. So you're gonna lose that guess. So he never did that again. He was so frustrated, so angry. When I first became a fitness manager, I actually kicked one of the trainers out of the gym and told him to take the rest of the day off because this, you'll love this. He was eating Doritos while he was training his client. Yes. Get out of here, dude. What the hell? Halfway through this. I've launched trainers for so much less, dude. Bro, half way through his session. Caramel Frappuccino. He's training his client. The client's doing lunges. He's crunching on his thing and I tapped on the shoulders. Hey, come here real quick. And he comes over and I'm like, get the fuck out. He's like, what? I'm like, don't come back. Don't come back tomorrow and don't ever eat chips in front of your clients again. What about my client? I'll finish the session. And I walked over and I'm like, he had a family emergency. And I finished the session. So, but yeah, you wanna reflect fitness but really more than reflecting the physical representation of fitness, although that's also important and people who buy in typically will look fit. You also want people to kind of live it a little bit, you know, who understand fitness because there's nothing worse than having someone work in your gym who isn't all about, you know, the fitness lifestyle. They're not on to fitness. Yeah. And it's just like, they're not gonna do you any favors in your gym. They're not gonna create a good atmosphere in your facility. And this goes for everybody. It is a reflection at the end of the day. Who would you say of your staff was the most fit and the least fit people in the gym? Categories. What do you mean? Like the whole staff? Yeah. So like trainers, the most fit, right? If you took your all your staff, the trainers probably the most fit. Second would probably be what? Sales people? Yeah, operations always last. Operations for last, huh? Always. Kids club was always in there. Kids club front desk and then maintenance. And then maintenance was always, we had a divisional president who was a reflection of obesity when we worked over there. Oh yeah, I know. I'm not gonna say his name, but people who listen know exactly what I'm talking about. We had quite a few, honestly. Yeah, there was a lot of that. At the regional level. That used to make me so upset. Yeah. I remember getting so mad that I would see this. And it wasn't like you're just a little overweight. Right. He was obese. Because I'm not talking like that. That's not, and I think there's total room for that. I mean, right now I'm nowhere near the shape I was into. But you're not obese. Right, I'm in shape still. You know what I'm saying? Still work out, still make healthy choices. Like I'm not in my top shape. You can easily manage your life. Give me months or two. In my opinion and still maintain like a healthy form and still have, I mean we've been drinking, traveling, eating and stuff like that. You could still manage that. I think what it is, is people spiral out of control, dude. I don't care. If you've put on 20, 30 plus pounds, it's not because you made a couple bad choices. No, no, no. You spiraled a lot of effort in that direction. Right, you spiral the fuck out of control and you don't realize it. Lots of them Twinkies. Or you do realize it and you know you get into trouble. I tend to get so mad because I'm the kind of person that if I'll buy into something if I think you're being honest, but if I think you're bullshitting, you could say anything and I won't buy into it because I can't stand the lack of integrity. And I remember sitting in these huge meetings or whatever and you've got these people high up in the company who are clearly obese talking about we're changing lives. We need to change more lives. I remember thinking like you fucking bullshitter. You're not changing your life first. Right. Because I'm not buying into this. You used to get me so mad. Yeah. Next question is from Emeline Kouse. Justin, what Star Wars character are the Mind Pump crew most like? Oh, God. You got to do everybody, dude. This is so good. I actually had to write it down. Oh, did you actually? I put some thought into this. Oh, God, let's hear this. Just a little bit because, I mean, we talked about this when I was dying. Okay, so you got to tell us who we are and why. Yeah. Why that character? Sal's definitely C-3PO. Oh, my God. I've narrowed it down to C-3PO because, I mean, I couldn't go, you know, any character and like, you know, I was kind of going back and forth with a few, you know, because you got, you're a cool dude. Don't kid yourself. But at the same time, you're just like this fucking robot of facts. You got to walk like him sometimes. Yeah. And I mean, C-3PO is hilarious. Like sometimes. Lots of dad jokes. Yeah, he's got dad jokes. He's doing stuff. He's like, he just finds himself in situations like, oh, laser beams are like flying over his head. So that's Sal. I thought, I thought you used to say that I was, who's the Corisian? Oh, Lando. Lando. So I think Adam's more Lando. Adam's very much more Lando. So he's got the charisma and the smoothness. And like, he's like, you know, like Han Solo was a little worried he was going to steal his girl. You know what I'm saying? So everyone's worried about me stealing their girls. You know what I mean? So Adam comes in, he's all smooth. He like did his own, you know, empire up there in the clouds. And he got himself like a go-to guy, which is Doug, is the Lobot, which is... What's that? So Lobot was that like human character that was actually a robot. Oh, I remember the bald head he got. Yes. Yes, I remember him. And so he was like, he organized everything. Oh, that's Doug for sure. And then he went around and was trying to like, he overthrew like the storm troopers, was there like trying to like capture everybody? I remember. Yeah. So I was like, oh yeah. So Doug's like the guy, he's like the enforcer. Oh, there he is. But he's like, yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. He just, he's like your go-to guy on command. Like he's just going to get shit done. He's a machine, man. He's a machine. Yeah, he's a machine. That's Doug. And then I went even further and I was like, I'm going to include Taylor and Drew. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Who's Taylor? Dude, Taylor, I had a hard time with this one because like, you know, he's an interesting guy. He's like super mysterious. Who's that one guy? He doesn't want to be shown a lot. We're changing his T-dog name to slow-mo. Slow-mo Mysterio. Slow-mo Mysterio. Right? I thought he would be, what's his name? No, hold on. Me so how? No, no, no. I'm not going to throw him on blast like that. Okay. He's not Jar Jar. There you go. No, no, no. Who is he? Who do you think? He's more like Kylo Ren. Oh. He's got these sort of characteristics. You're just not sure of it. He's like really passionate. The long hair? Yeah, he's got the long hair. He's kind of mysterious. Actually, if you shaved his beard off. You don't know his backstory yet, you know? The emo? Yeah, he's emo. I could see him just raging like that. Like, no! It's like, you know, having a temper tantrum. I feel like Kylo is very millennial-esque. Yeah, he's like millennial. He embodies the millennial. Yeah, yeah. But not to say, like, obviously, like, I had to do somebody. Yeah. So that was my best, you know, guest for Taylor. And then Drew, Drew to me is R2D2. Oh, yeah. Okay. And reason being- He can't help but love him. He's fucking, you love him, right? And he does like awesome stuff and he's part of like, like saving them in tight pinches and stuff, but then he just fucking takes off. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, like, Luke, right? He's like, where the fuck did R2D2 go? And then his uncle's like, go get him! We just bought him, you know? That's true for sure. And Drew just took off. He just takes off. And then you go find him and then you're like, oh man, R2D2! And he's like, hug him. And he's like, oh, it's a peep-a-boo-peep-a-boo-boo. Yeah. You know, let's go to fucking, you know, another- And he just takes off again. You know what I mean? He shuts down. Dammit, Drew. And he shuts down, like, in the new movies. Those are really good. You know, nothing about him yet. Those are really good. That's my best bet. You didn't get Katrina in there? I didn't get Katrina in there. She's princessly ass. I know, you know, I think she's more queen-amy doll. Like, she's very, like, like, ah, what's the word? Which one's that? Not like royal, but like, has like an authoritative, like- Which one was that? Who's queen-amy doll? She's the one that was, I mean- Dude, that's fucking, what's her name? Natalie Portman. Yeah. She ruled. Right, so she was organized and she, like, she, like, had everything all figured out. Okay, okay, yeah. But she's also a badass, you know, so I don't know. I don't know. That's what I think. I think Princess Leia was, like, she was more of, like, she just would, I don't know. Now let me guess, Justin's, what, Han Solo? Dude, if I had to narrow it down. And I went through the list. Right? I was, like, thinking, like, ah, yeah, because who else? Like, I was trying to think of, like, some, I mean, I would probably be Jar Jar. You know what I mean? I'm trying to throw that in there. No. You know, you think you're Han. I'm definitely Han. Yeah, definitely Han. You're definitely Han. Throw some sarcasm in there and, like, fuck with people and then I'm out, you know? Yeah. No, I think, I'd have to say those are pretty accurate, man. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I should have thought of the, you know, Katrina, yeah. I'll have to come back to that one. That's excellent. Yeah. All right, check it out. YouTube, we actually post qua episodes on YouTube now, different, they're different ones. YouTube will answer like one or two questions. So it's like a 15 minute episode and some of the recent ones were like, should you use a Smith machine? We had one where we actually targeted some muscle tech supplements. We've had a few other ones. So you go on there, you can look up the clause and it's me, Adam and Justin answering questions on Mind Pump TV on YouTube. And of course we post other videos as well. 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