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Hey guys, this is Dr. City, a director product feature in Forbes that help 100 people learn their dream PM job offer in fan companies and when you start up and continue to get promoted as a product leader. Today, you're in our free mock interview to get ready for your prime recording season. Hey guys, lots of crazy news going on. Lots of activities, lots of interviews and lots of hiring process. So let's make sure that we are able to use a best strategy to quickly blend your next job offer, especially in this case, we'll do a mock interview and see what went wrong in your answers and figure out that did you go wrong in terms of when you answered those first one interview question, maybe last one interview question. Many reasons I hear today, maybe because you had experience or you have no experience at all or you're fresh graduate. You really want to figure out what's the best way to quickly nail your prime manager job offer itself. You're in the right place. Let me see who else is here with me. I can see chat on both YouTube and LinkedIn. So comment on the chat, what's your name, where you're from and what you go for 2023. Lin, how are you? So excited to learn about mock interview. Yes, yes, Joe. This will be very beneficial for all the PMs in my network of looking for new role. Yeah, thank you. Joe, make sure to like this video and share this video on your LinkedIn and more people can directly join us and figure out what went wrong in their interviews. Okay, and everyone can join for free mock interviews. I'm gonna share you regarding how to join me live for free. Okay, Halita, how are you? MBA candidate, how are you? Awesome, awesome. And let me see, who else on YouTube we're here with us. Michelle, Michelle from Kenya. How are you? What time is it in Kenya? And we revved from the US, how are you? Awesome, so let's do this. 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We're gonna show you the email address quickly. So let me do this. For free mock interview, here's what you do. For some of you guys already pre-registered, you already emailed my team at info.pms.io. So you're good to go. That's why you're on Zoom already. Some of you guys will be with me live right now. You can email me immediately at nancy.darknancy.com. Only when I'm live, email me. If not, email my team. My team will send you more instructions how to join me live on Zoom, okay? So email me at nancy.nancy.com right now and email title should say free mock interview and then gonna send you link to join me live on Zoom. Okay, so just comment directly put in your email. Okay, nancy.nancy.com. Okay, cool. So when they're waiting for people to email me, so let me go through some inspiring stories. Very, very exciting. Okay, anyone who is part of my coaching program called PM and Sarajah, you know, we love to share any inspiring stories of all our heroes. I call them heroes because they literally have many breakthroughs in their career and also impacting many people out there, maintenance people out there. So Nicholas himself, he's a senior part manager, Brazil. He and Brazilian never work outside of Brazil at all. And also he works for Brazilian health care startup with 100 employees and never work lived or anywhere outside of Brazil at all. And now last month he was a boat land head of AI product offer in a company in London. So actually very excited for him. You know, the important message I wanna share with you guys was, so when Nicholas started his entire journey he started to talk about in the past given he's a Brazilian, people always say, oh, you should stay in Brazil. It's impossible for you to move out of the country or get paid more. Well, in reality he was able to have a breakthrough. Okay, which today I'm gonna show you how you're able to have breakthrough as well. But most important thing, number one thing he did is Owen has amazing LinkedIn profile. Number two, everyone knows how to repackage his story. Even his Brazilian, there's a story to tell them. Well, even if I work for a Brazilian startup, I qualify for more international presence and bigger scope of me growing into next level as well. And then that's where he is. And very, very, very exciting for him to grow into next level. Of course he did lots of mock interviews with me. So that's why you guys can enjoy the free advice to you guys to understand how you can improve, why you fail certain interviews, okay. And now to get ready for the mock interviews, everybody you need to go to the swapsite.docnancy.com slash 50fan. That's where you can use the database of latest interview questions out there. Okay, so those can be used for fan interviews or non-fan interviews and doesn't have to be fan companies. The reason is even chocolate company like Hershey's, recently heard like Hershey's, chocolate companies, crazy. And start to ask product design interview questions. Everyone is trying to follow the same style of interview at fan companies right now. So therefore go to the swapsite.docnancy.com slash 50fan to download your interviews, the database to do your mock interviews. Okay, so let me copy paste here so everyone can get it. Let me post it in both. LinkedIn and also YouTube. So it is 6 p.m. in Kenya. Perfect for you, Michelle. This is perfect timing for you. So after work it starts to do free mock interviews. This is awesome. Okay, cool. All right, so now let's do this. Let's start with our free mock interviews. Reminder here again, here again. If you need mock interview live right now, email me at nancy.nancy.com. Once the live is over, email my team at info, at pmsurge.io also. Okay, so pick the right email. You can email me directly when I go live. Okay, so let's do this. Let's do a free mock interview. Tan, are you here? Can you unmute yourself? Yep, can you hear me? Yes, I can. So you said you're aspiring p.m. from Boston. Can you quickly introduce yourself? Yeah, so should we do the pitch now or just do a quick? Any, you can do a pitch. You can do introduction. Either way, it's fine. Yeah, so yes, we've been contacts. I'm an aspiring product manager. Most have been in engineering and project management role. So with that, I'll start by pitch. So I'm a technology professional with 20 years of experience in multiple technology roles from leading engineering teams to project management. I bring a distinct perspective to the world project manager. My experience in program management has provided me with a comprehensive understanding of product, lifecycle, cross-functional collaboration and the audit juggling multiple priorities to achieving overarching organization goals. I believe these skills are invaluable in the dynamic lens scale of product management where adaptability and ability to mediate ambiguity are essential. During my tenure in engineering, I not only hold my technical skill, but also learn to empathize with end user and understand that needs deeply. This experience gave me a grand understanding of product development process from the inception of my gear to its realization and the form of software and system. As a product manager, I'm confident my ability to reach the gap of technical literacy and user-centered design ensuring that our products are market leaders but also user-friendly. My time as a project manager also foster my strategic and planning abilities. I develop an extra particularity dissecting complex issues, advising comprehensive plans and executing them with position. This discipline allowed me to efficiently manage resource budget and timeline while ensuring that all stakeholders were aligned without checklists. So in my new role as a project manager, I intend to glide the same discipline to product roadmap, ensuring that our product deliver in time and within budget while also meeting the volume needs of our customer. With that said, what truly sets me apart is my diverse background with encompass engineering expertise, program management skills, formal training and operation management. I approach challenges with humility, know that every problem is an opportunity to learn and grow. However, I approach them with an unwavering confidence in my ability to find innovation solution by drawing from my multi-disciplinary experiences. The tri-10, I am a little bit confused. Is it for PM roles or for product roles? Yeah, so like I said, in the past, I had a program manager role and I'm an aspiring project manager. I like to move into a project product manager role. I think the pitch doesn't work for either roles. Sorry, I'm very straightforward. Okay. The pitch doesn't work for either roles. Even if you use it for program manager or project manager roles, stay in your current role, assuming you don't wanna switch, it doesn't work because it's way too long and doesn't show who you are. It's just not sharp. I can tell you how many years of experience. How many years of project management or in total work experience you have? At least 10, 10, 15, right? All in total, it was 20, but 20 plus years. Exactly, right? So I can tell you how many years of experience, but not sharp. The biggest problem is it's not sharp. Okay. It doesn't matter if it's for project manager or product manager. The problem is it's not sharp. It's not memorable. Just felt like it's very long. You told me something. So here's what's thinking process. Let's talk about, let's do not talk about it's for what role yet. Let me tell you what problem was the quote, the pitch. It's not a pitch. And even you call the introduction, the introduction is also very long. The main problem is we can tell many years of experience, but how to set your power for someone also has 20 years of experience. It's showing that you're already a leader. You're very sharp. You know how to lead a team. Even if you're very senior, I see you still be able to create a huge organizational impact because anybody who has 20 years experience, they can speak for five minutes. Or I don't know how long you spoke. I bet it's longer than two minutes. Okay. You can watch recordings later on. Okay. Anyone with 20 years experience can speak longer than you. So it's not about have done lots of work of course, 20 years, you might have done lots of work. What they're looking for is please impress me. Okay. Okay. It's not impressive saying that, the only thing that impressed me is this guy worked for many, many, many years. That's it. But any guy who also worked for 20 years, many, many years also have very, very long stuff. Okay. The main problem is how can we make it shorter? The most important thing to make it shorter is the following number one, you give them a summary of years experience. So which we can modify for PM and also cloud manager and project manager later on. And then second, you directly jump into the impact you have done for your organization without going into the details of, I wrote requirements or I aligned plus strategy, different things. You talk about lots of crazy stuff. Just get to the point much faster. For example, you can say, let's say, let's use a program manager. Either one is fine. What we'll switch, we will pivot it for both roles. Okay. Let's go back to the easy route. Assuming even if you're for program manager, project manager, I will kill this pitch as well. Assuming for program manager, I will say the following. Hey, I am Tim and I have over all 20 years experience. Cross-functional from project management, engineering management and operational, something like operational stuff, whatever keywords you said. So, and lately, assuming apply for program manager role, right? So lately, I managed five large scale program in total. Give a summary and when I, and then give one example, one of the biggest product or project I led was working for ABCD company to achieve ABCD goal, whatever you wanna say, with ABCD impact very quickly. For example, I led a multinational, for example, if I years ago before I transitioned to PM. Okay. So I will say, I managed only two at the time, two large scale product, project, assuming for program management, two large scale project. The biggest project I lately managed is $250 million project that helped the oil companies to prevent the oil spill similar to Gulf of Mexico. This is precisely because of the fact this is perceived as the most important industry inventions that using comprehensive AI, robotics to prevent all the environmental damages. This enabled me to let a team of whatever 20 people to grow this project and also help me get promoted to become ABCD thing, whatever. So now you're assuming a pride for project management roles. The next step is, so I believe my past at the time is only three years. I believe my past three years experience leading $250 million project is adding great value to this new role as a project manager in your company. Whatever ABCD thing you wanna say. So it has been very straightforward what impact you have even if at the time only a three years experience. So now let's use yours, whatever the impact you have, you just get to the point what problem you want to solve, what impact you have. I talk about the size of project, $250 million project, I let a team got me promoted. I didn't go into details regarding, oh, I managed day to day operations, of course, $250 million, you must manage everything end to end, but the fact that I let a team means that many different people in my team manage in different things. All together we did something that $250 million to whatever prevent oil spill in Gulf of Mexico. Of course that's happened eight years ago when I was working on the project. So now let's pivot yours into product management which you want to transition to product, right? Same thing. Yeah, transition to product number one thing is you must understand what end to end what product management is doing. So I will show you the free training on YouTube as a checklist, very simple things what product manager is doing. Okay, once you know what product manager is doing you only need to tell them the parts that's related to product manager and also kill everything else. You don't need to say, oh, I have such a broad experience all those at value become PM. No, you just tell them the phone and for example how much of your 20 years experience related to product? Do you think have 10 years related to product? That'll have to be at the title but related to product for example, working with engineering, writing requirement managing stakeholders. Do you think it's 10 years in total, roughly? I would say maybe not 10, maybe five years total related directly to product. Great, cool. Let's use five years. Five years is also very good. Hey, I'm Tam. I have five years experience leading developing technology product in the past couple of years. And along with extensive experience working with engineering team before I transitioned into product. So in ABCD company, in the past five years or ABCD company, I launched, let's say five product I don't know, five, two, many, in five years, three I think three is reasonable. I launched whatever product product in the right number. I launched three products in total in the fintech industry, in the ABCD whatever ABCD industry. One the product I'm most proud of is to help ABCD client to achieve ABCD goals and then just jump into impact directly. This leading to my client making $200 million additional revenue every single day. Or could also be this helps my own company to improve operational efficiency by 50% within six months. This helps whatever my company reduce the operational cost by 20% which is very crucial during the tech layoff season because when revenue is tight when we improve the cost savings we need to increase our margin significantly. So this letting this lead me to be perceived as one of the key leader in my company was able to grow this product end to end. I believe my past five years experience plus engineering and plus another 10 years engineering experience may be a great candidate for this product manager position in ABCD company. Something like that, just not too much crazy stuff at 20 years, we don't compete with the ages to be frank, just like age discrimination, be frankly, if you tell others you have too many to be frank, I'm very frank. Okay, just like real stuff going on. So too many is not a good either. So don't tell them what's most relevant. Tell them how impressive you are, how sharp you are. If you have too many years experience, I would actually hide, I think 20 is okay. If you reach 30, I will just do not try to tell them I have too many years experience or age discrimination will be on a real thing. Okay, so tell them the most important part really at the PM but I will never tell them, oh, I have so many years experience prepare me the transition to PM just tell them exactly what things you did relate to product, what impact you had and then your perfect fit for this role, whatever things you can add, that's the best part. Okay, I'm making short. Okay, we'll do that. You don't need to tell them all three product because you give them summary upfront. You have, I have launched three in the past five years and the most, the most, the one I'm most proud of is doing this, whatever, something like that or you pick, maybe pick the top two, but don't make it too long. We don't want to hear something too long. Okay, cool. Any question based on the pitch so far, Tim? Just a question. So do we have other opportunities to do a second pitch later on in the following weeks or do you want to guess one? Oh yeah, you can email my team. You can email my team. And same email info or PMX editor that oh, you can, she can bring you up here, send you a link. At the same time, let me do this. Let me, let me just, let's do mock interview. Did you sign up for mock interview or you sign up for a pitch? I'm not sure. I just saw this at mock interview. So I thought pitch of mock interview would be same session. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So we can also do a mock, the real interview mark as well. Do you want to do a mock? Or are you ready? Let me see who else is ready. Hold on, I haven't checked my email yet. Yeah, let me know if you want to do a real mock. I think, yeah, I'll work on the pitch and maybe we can save on a future session. Okay, cool, yeah, no problem. No, we don't need to do a real mock today. Yeah, yeah, you can finish your pitch next time. Awesome, so best of luck and keep me posted. And at the same time, let me see further questions. My LinkedIn, what's up? Let me see what are the questions people have here. Okay, so anyone who joined us live on LinkedIn and also YouTube, feel free to put a comment in the chat. And at the same time, let me do this. Let me show you guys some free resources and regarding how to craft your pitch better and also do mock interview better. Let me share my screen. So let's do this, let's go to my YouTube sheet. Oh, and you guys can come here. Okay, so number one thing, I think, Tan, you need to run all the keywords in PM regarding what they do. Let me show you the free training here. Videos here, go to search button. Ah, directly to search here. What does a partner manager do? Darkness TV and you can find this video. What does partner do by me? And you have many videos related to that. So there is another partner manager. Yeah, all the skills for PM. This is number one thing everyone must learn in high level. So this is straightforward for everybody who must learn. And then you have another video related to this. This one. So this video also has everything entrant regarding roles responsibilities of partner managers. So let me share this video. I think this has all the checklist, everything. And I can do, let me put an important Zoom chat and you should watch this and hit everything I described in that video in your interviews or in your understanding or creating your next pitch. Okay, let me put it here. And let me also put it on YouTube and make them. Okay, so everybody you can see the link right now, the YouTube link. And then everybody who's wanting to get ready for your next pitch. There's a very easy one you guys must watch. You can see my sample pitch right here. So basically this is my pitch with the framework. And you guys should follow it in the description of this video. You can download the details of my pitch that exactly is my pitch you can use or modify for your own use as well. Okay, so this one is gonna guide all of you guys for your next pitch. Now, most importantly, I want people to understand this. I bet lots of people when you go out for interviews, the reason you failed was the number one in home. Okay. The number one reason you failed was when they ask you lots of questions regarding, hey, tell me how you turn a product on concept execution. Tell me things related to product management. How do you launch those products? Those are typical entry level PM type of questions for first round interview. And so that's specific framework and methodology you must answer those questions. So let me show you guys where you can find sample answer. That's very typical. Okay, so go to this playlist, product management interview course and PM interview questions and answers. Those are all the sample interview questions. Everything is there. Okay, so like including product strategy questions. And let me see this one. I think this one's, what's your favorite product? Watch this one as well. And it's a very typical questions. Now other things regarding, tell me a time when you successfully launch a product from scratch, must ask interview questions for all the product managers. Watch this one as well. So this is a basic user sample answer and craft viewers as well. It's a straightforward and we must watch it. Let me share this one in the chat as well. Let me put it right here. Also on YouTube. So we have both. Okay, great. So let me see if any new questions we have. Cool, inquiry regarding mock interview. Want to be part of mock interview those revents. Okay, so let me send you zoom link right now. You can join me as we're speaking. Copy invitation. Okay, so revents. I just send you the zoom link and join me right now. Now once you join me, get ready to think about what type of interview questions. Now you want to do a mock interview with. Okay, so now let me do this. Cool. When we are, hold on, let me do this. Let me see more questions showing up here. Okay, so let me do this. When we are waiting for revents to join us. So let's do some quick overview regarding what's going on in the job market right now and the latest trends of the job hunting mechanism. Number one thing for everybody, please understand this. Oh, hold on. I send the wrong link and zoom chat, but anyway. So number one thing, everybody understand this. We're going through primary recruiting season right now. So let me show you different kind of recruiting timeframe for different type of companies. Number one, if you are going for those RPM APM program within iPhone companies and September is when they will start the application process. So last year they started in August. So this year they delayed, they started in September. I believe the reason of the delayed start was because the recent stock market went back up all the crazy stuff. They start to hire experienced PM first and then hire entry-level PM. So therefore, entry-level PM was delayed by months but in September, they already started to open up the internship opportunities soon to open up the entry-level PM opportunities for fan companies as well. And now number two for MBAs. MBAs are very important. Hey, MBAs. September is when majority of the company start to recruit all the MBA candidates. Okay, very, very important. So for example, last year, Amazon started to send out job offers in October. So basically right now, September primary season for all the MBAs for interviews for primary, of course, for tier one companies, October start to go out like Amazon's and that's like you have one month to go around beginning of October or end of October. October is offer months. Okay, so everyone needs to speed up the process. Now for experienced PM, the timing is slightly different. Experienced PM in regards to big or small companies, they already started hiring in August for experienced PM. Many of them already interviewed with Google Metas, those kind of companies, by the way, they're hiring again. Doesn't have Google Metas, including DoorDash, Uber, they have been hiring for a very long time as well as TikTok people constantly interviewed with those companies starting from August already. There's so many job opportunities in August. Of course, September, they continue to hire and once we hit Thanksgiving, everything slowed down significantly. Okay, so therefore please capture the primary recruiting season with September, October and everyone must get ready for your upcoming interviews. Okay, now another quick reminder. Let me do this. Let me show my screen. Hi, Revence. Let me, I'm gonna put you up in one minute. Okay, so we are getting started for your mark interview. Okay, so quick, let me do this, right show. Quick reminder. So we have a masterclass next week regarding how to create a portfolio in two weeks that will lend you job offers during a recession, even if you reject it again and again or you have PM experience or you don't have experience that matter, those are key for all of you guys to lend your next PM job so that you are going to beat all the competitions out there, okay? So go to my website, drnc.com, masterclass. You can go here. Let me go to my website, quick, oops. This is our podcast. And I just go to my website right here. Go to my website, drnc.com. And then go to here, select the time that works best for you. Okay, for your upcoming free masterclass regarding where we teach portfolio. And also anybody who sign up for the masterclass you're gonna have free resume review with me as well. So it's all in the descriptions. Once you sign up in the welcome email, there is already resume, template, and examples you can immediately use. And then after live masterclass, gonna show you how you're able to get information to do a resume review with me, okay? So we're gonna see you next week. That's when we do live masterclass. And then the week, then everyone just needs to get ready for your primary recruiting season. That's in high level, what we do. Okay, in the upcoming three days, come to my website, drnc.com, slash masterclass. You can find all the information you need. Lots of people are not familiar with the concept of the masterclass or the concept of the portfolio. And right now it's very critical because everybody out there, they are all trying to become a product manager. It's extremely critical. Everyone use the primary methodology, which is demonstrate your original thinking process as a PM and how you're better than other candidates through different type of product portfolio there. For experienced PM and non-experienced PM, either type is going to be suitable based on your past experience. Okay, pick the one, the right one that's most suitable for you. Okay, I'm gonna put the link in the chat. You guys can directly sign up and see you live next week as well. Okay, so now let's do the mock interview. TS, many thanks, Doc Nancy. Thank you, thank you. Okay, so let's do a live mock interview. Brie, Ben, how are you? Please come here yourself and quickly introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Revan, recently got laid. I used to work in KLA as an applications engineer. And before that, I was working with wireless platform developer and before that, I had like experience in different labs and published like a few research papers. And during this time, I did like work on semiconductor field, RF field, electronics and design and test, but also like manage some of the projects on the way. So that actually interested me to become a product manager role. And yeah, that actually brings me to here. Awesome, great, cool. Are you saying that you are laid off? You're cut off? Yeah. You recently were laid off, I see. So your new goal is land a PM job or your new goal to land any jobs? New goals to land a PM job. Okay, great. Sorry about you getting laid off. This happens from many different people out there, but no worries, 100% of my lay off PMs and then a job between two to three months. No problem, all my lay off PMs. So just use the right strategy and in terms of how to answer interview questions, prep your product portfolio, have your resume ready, have those three ready, your land a job soon. Okay, so now let's do more interview. What type of questions do you wanna do? Is it a product design question or behavior interview question for first round questions? Anything that's fine with me because I had experience with product design but on various technologies and yeah. Okay, so let's do a, looks interesting. So let's do a product design question quickly. Okay. Can you help me to design a kitchen? This is a real interview, right? All real interview. Help me design kitchen. Yes. How, what are the damage of the kitchen as well as how do you want your kitchen to be and what are the key things you want in the kitchen? This is a product design interview questions for Google. Usually, I assume for Google, okay? Usually Google is the interviewer. So let's do the real simulation. If I'm the Google interviewer, I will say whatever it doesn't matter. What do you think? Let's start with like also what is the time period that you want the kitchen to be ready by? Oh, like half a year. Half a year. So what I'm thinking is from my basic idea how generally how kitchen looks like one is you need a stove, oh, and then microwave top. These are the key things. And you need like a lot of cupboard space and you need a washer. And if you need a dishwasher as an addition, so that also goes into the kitchen and the remaining part is cupboard design. So based on like how you want to place, do you want the maximal space option? Do you want the maximal aesthetic option or how do you want an open layout option for the kitchen? It doesn't matter because really depends on who you want to design it for. What type of customer segmentation do you think you're designing this kitchen for? I'm thinking for a household but I could design a kitchen for a restaurant as well. Cool, so which one would you design today? Which one are our customers to design it for? Is it a restaurant or a household? I'm a Google, I'm Google. I'm Google. I'm just creating something for people. Okay, yeah. If you want to use your- Which one I should create? I should design, I'm Google. This is for people and it is for more employee kind of environment but also more, it comes to more restaurant but more fast food so that like you may ready and go. So you have more assembly stages, step by step for different processes for the kitchen to be made easy. Let's say you're making a batter of flour or cake for your employees. So you want most of the parts to be mobileable. So most of the parts to be mobile from one place to another so that and also creates a space for all the people, cooks and chefs to stand in the line and cast things like they make things efficiently and in a fast way and you want ready, hot and serve kind of meals for the employees and if you want that, you would do a assembly stage as again coming back. You would have more grill on one side of pan, a large pan on one side as well as different equipment for the kitchen on another side so that it is as the assembly process for the kitchen and you have the serving station for the employees, more like a canteen, I would say. I need to stop you here. So I don't think you know the framework at all for product design for, and I use Google as example, Uber will ask you the same question, Matt asked you the same question, they may not be kitchen, they may design, I don't know, Bookshelf, Uber, not Uber, Google also have a question, design Bookshelf, design museum, Matt will ask you design travel app, same thing, design kitchen is also one of the, I think it's also Google interview questions as well. It's a typical question, same thing, design Bookshelf, that's it, very, very, any question, you're not using the right framework at all, completed off, 100% off. Okay, so I'm very straightforward, coach, just to say, say what? Yeah. Trying to show you, good try, good try, okay, but you're very off, okay, you're good try, but very off, okay. So first of all, let's understand the purpose of them asking you this very vague question, this is day to day, design kitchen, design travel app, design Bookshelf, design Uber for blind people and many different things, design mentorship feature for LinkedIn, all of those, those are very typical questions, it's day to day work that you, day to day things that you use, so that you already have some exposure, you have no excuses, not knowing what it's about. Okay, so number two, when they give you those kinds of questions, they wanna see how do you think in a bigger scope, not dive into the details of design, because the product manager design is more thinking about how can you create strategic long-term vision for your product so that you're going to solve the pain point for your customers. It is not, let me go into details of the design, because all the design has a specific reasons, designing for who, what kind of pain point address and then you can design it. For example, I gave you a clue at the beginning as this really depends on who you wanna design it, what kind of customer segmentation and then you were on the right track, you said, I can design it for commercial kitchen, I can also design it for normal household like a family. So which you choose, there's a mainly typical like two high level segmentations for those kitchens. Okay, of course you can also further break it down in terms of normal household, you can also have like singles, like single young men like you are single young men, single young men like fast, easy kitchen or someone like family like me, I have a big household so I need to cook for lots of people and then the commercial kitchen, those are high level good ones. So now once you have high level customer segmentation instead of showing, hey, here's what I feel I put microwave different things goes into it, it's very important, you tell them that, okay, there's three different type of customer segmentations. I like to understand which one we need to prioritize first. And also tell you I'm a Google, I just wanna, so a pain point for people, Google design kitchen, okay. In this case, it's based on which customer segmentation should I prioritize? So now we should link to back to the mission of Google. Google's mission is to provide information to make it available accessible for everybody everywhere. All right, and then that different type of customer segmentation, you can design it for commercial, or family, for single young men, single young people in general, what would you do? In this case, you can break it down in terms of this a framework and follow for prioritization. It's based on size of market. So how big are the sides of market who is going to use the kitchen among all three? And then the impact can bring to those customer segmentation. For example, the commercial kitchen has bigger pain points. So bigger impact means bigger pain points. That's commercial kitchen in general, you can have bigger pain point or you help this customer segmentation, you're able to bring in bigger impact in general. Or you help single young men, are you using and bring as big impact compared with designing kitchen for families? And you can also talk about urgency. So all of them, of course, they want a better kitchen. So who wants a kitchen yesterday, as soon as possible? For example, single young men, as an example, yes, they have some pain point, probably they can wait a little bit because they don't cook as much, they always eat out anyway with friends, they social a lot. Maybe, yes, they need a better kitchen. They may not need it immediately today or even ideally yesterday, they couldn't wait. I hope I have a better kitchen yesterday, something like that, right? And yeah, so those are different criterias. You can go into your prioritization framework to pick which customer segmentation. And then you talk about whatever you prioritize. Let's say prioritize for family or restaurant. I think you should not have a single young man based on what you described. But one of those, okay, let's assume through the prioritization framework you select family, okay? So now design something for family, you must talk about different kind of pain points that family has and prioritize again, then you design the solutions for them as well. Okay, so you're using completely wrong framework. Let me show you the right framework. Okay, so immediately if you use that methodology you just mentioned earlier, you're gonna get killed right away. Okay, so now let me show you the right framework you can use right away. Let me go to my YouTube channel. Everybody in the Discord channel and YouTube channel, please put your answers in the chat as well. I'm gonna review your answers live, okay? Put your answers in the chat, the same time let me show revenge the framework. So go to right here. Go to my YouTube channel you guys can directly. Oh, what happened? I think it's stuck. Right here, my YouTube channel, see the most popular one, just watch the most popular one. This one has the end-to-end frameworks that you need to follow right here. Just using example design override for people with disabilities. Okay, so it's a different kind of mission-wide, user segmentation, pain points, examples, it gave you right here. Okay, so watch this video and it's the most watched videos on my YouTube channel, second most watched. The other one is for Google interview questions database. You guys need to watch and use that as well. So right here, so let me put it in the, just follow this, this has all different customer segmentation, pain points, which I should prioritize, what framework you use, different things you use, very straightforward. I also have other mock interviews I had with my other students. You guys can watch those mock interviews to learn how other people apply the framework as well. So let me put it in the chat so people can use the right methodology. Cool, I put it on LinkedIn and YouTube. Awesome. Okay, so it's right there. Let me see who else. Email me for a mock interview one sec. Cool. So actually we finished all the mock interviews. Yeah, everybody just make sure you watch this video, which has end to end everything to do. And also quick reminder, we have a live master class next week regarding how to create a portfolio, the two different type of portfolio with live examples and five different tools you guys can use. We dive deeper. Before you come in, we want you to finish your resume. Okay, have your resume ready. So you next Monday, we're going to do a free resume review with people who register for master class. Okay. So once you register, you will get notification how to get free resume review with me. Okay, so come here, go to this website, docnancy.com, go to home page. Home page has a button or docnancy.com slash master class. Either one is fine. Docnancy.com. And then go here and directly register for our upcoming live master class. Okay, so let me bring the chat again. In case people missed it. Awesome. Okay, great. So it looks like we answered all the questions. If I missed any questions, come on the chat. Okay. So any questions regarding the new framework, I just want to revamp question. No, I kind of like, how you detailed with the, to initially asking what are you trying to solve like mission statement. When it comes to like customer unique, what is the mission statement and client and what are the key things like, let's say like we're building kitchen for Google. One thing I noticed is like, do you have what kitchen is serving at what time as well as that is going into notification of the employees as well as the schedule for the kitchen? Like what are we serving? Like those are also comes into the key things. No. No. Okay. No, that's again, that's your old, that's not pms. That's interior designer. That's not pms. When Google design a kitchen, I don't see the only design for themselves. They want to capture really big market. Yes. Okay. Which means that Google and Microsoft and Meta, they have different kind of schedules, different kind of food. They serve for employees, right? Very, very different. We've had different kind of food. So Google is not going to design one kitchen. They're going to design some kind of solution that can serve many different companies out there. So therefore it's not based on what kind of food you will serve, tell me all the details. That's why it's very wrong. That's why Google pay people at least $300,000 per year. Usually they hit $400,000 per year working for Google, not even senior pms. Just you join Google. If you're senior pms, I'm still enjoying Meta $800,000 per year. Okay. But interior design only getting paid. I know starting salary $60,000 per year, you probably can work up to 80 or $90,000 per year. The salary itself is five times different between those two rows. Because interior designers, they just, oh, what do you want? They're very, like, by the book. Oh, you want to eat this? You want to eat that? Okay. Let me design a special kitchen to make rice, Chinese rice, whatever. Compile chicken for Chinese people. But Google will be like, I designed something scalable that can sell to many different people out there. Not only you make Chinese fried chicken and different stuff out there, I'm going to make lots of money out of many, many different people out there. So therefore they pay people different kind of money and the salary and their solution is very different. How the single problem is completely different. That's why the salary gap between different people out there based on the prime management thinking mindset. Okay. But it's a really good question. It's a very good question. Great question. Okay. So now Alisa asks this question on YouTube. Where can I find all framework and study the answer, mock interviews and avoid failing? A very good question. Let me show you the framework right here. Alisa, very good question. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Come here. Okay. All the frameworks are here. I put all my framework in this playlist. Let me come here. What are major interview questions to answer? Those are all my framework here. All your interviews come here. All the framework. This is about a grail framework. Secret answer how tell me a time when you felt there's something called the grail framework, which I invented. Okay. Behavior interview questions. Those are the mock interview. Can you guys see my screen? I think you can, right? If I missed anything, let me know. Okay. So now other framework we invented are, for example, the mock interview I have with someone else who's a Microsoft part manager. She's doing mock interview with me. She's one of my students saying that, hey, how we design the mentorship for LinkedIn. Okay. And also someone else did improve Airbnb and fantastic answer in her outcome and everything's right here. So, and now there's another framework to answer part of execution question. That part of metrics, part of execution question. And right here is all the frameworks right here. Best framework for execution interview questions. Okay. Now, part of strategy. Here, part of strategy. We also have a Gucci framework. Also for part of strategy as well. So this is a mock interview for part of strategy and this Gucci framework for part of strategy. It's all here. What's your favorite product framework is also here. Just watch this playlist and watch multiple times and give a like comment. Okay. And everything's here. You once you finish all the playlists, you are golden, you know, all the framework that you should have used. Okay. It's very dangerous. People just design kitchen, no problem. What kind of food, you know, no different methodology. We pay people very differently in tech companies. This is just not Google to say all company pay very well. It's even better because we think things very differently. Okay. So let me see. Very good question. Very good question. Lisa. Yeah. Just go to the playlist. Just go to documents.com or documents.com. Also link to my YouTube channel. You should just say documents.ly.com link to my YouTube channel or Google me documents.ly product management or director product. You should be able to find me. I have a playlist. I want to just watch all of it. Take lots of notes. Okay. And you guys will be rockstar with upcoming interviews. Of course. And when learn part of the photo, which I believe is the number one key for everyone to really beat your competition, come to our upcoming masterclass as well. Okay. One final question. Uh huh. What question you have. Um, how important is like PM to be in the role? PM to be in the, let's say like I have done mostly hardware as well as like managing some of the hardware products. How important like the person needs to be in hardware or, uh, can he be also in software? PM also. Uh, in terms of becoming a PM. Yes. It doesn't matter regarding a hardware PM or software PM. I'm more coming from hardware background myself. I work in all the gas industry. Okay. It's very heavy mechanical engineering type of environment. And I became a PM for my first PM job is AI PM. How did I become AI product manager came from hardware background. So it's less about, you know, software or hardware. It's more about how would you be able to tell them you had the product thinking like you're clearly doing the interview. You don't have part of thinking, right? Boom. Sorry. Right. So, but if it's someone, we don't know whatever with hardware background, you ask you those kinds of questions. Oh, you really think like a PM. So it's more product thinking and then also how you package your past experience related to PM. 91% of people transition into PM. So it's normal. It's normal. Like the 9% that comes to Stanford. Okay. And then they become a PM the first job ever out of college. We don't compete with those people. There's like prestigious people. Okay. 91% like you and me transition to PM from very big, a different background. So you must have a product thinking first, know what product management do, have your product portfolio, product portfolio is a way to really master your skills. So you say, I know, I know design. Well, I asked you a few questions, you don't know how to do it. Why don't you really put your hands down and say, okay, so this is how to create a product portfolio. Here's how to write requirements because once or how to do customer interview, how to create product persona, the customer persona, customer journey map, all of this, because once you start a new job, nobody teach you how to write requirements. It's like, why are you here today? Why don't you pick up? Why don't you learn the basic requirement before you even come to do a new job? Why even come to interview before you learn how to do like a requirement? Because it will ask you how do you write a requirement, right? So it's like, you got to learn ahead of time. Nobody teach you. So we really have hands-on experience. Little writing requirements create customer persona. That's why creating a portfolio, which has all the key element goes into it. So I see, I know requirement. I know persona. I know customer journey map and the MAP. I know everything. So that's the best way to learn your next PM job. It's not about I know hardware and software. It doesn't matter. These people ask you a few questions. You don't have a sense. I don't care. You go to Stanford studying computer science degree. You fail miserably. Only 7% of Harvard MBA learned a job as a PM. Only 7%. They were the best school ever, best school ever. Many of them has computer science degree before they go to undergrad and then work a few years and get MBA from Harvard. Why only 7%? Because it's no longer about your past degree, whatever. It is all about packaging hands-on experience. How you tell your stories as do you have a sense? Like how we test out, right? You don't have so far, but you have time to learn. You have time to go to my YouTube channel. You watch all of those multiple times, take lots of notes. Okay. Great question. Great question. Let me see. I haven't checked the LinkedIn question. And once we're done, we're good to go. Awesome. So cool. All right. So it looks like we answered all the questions. In that case, best of luck, everybody. 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