 You're just I'm transferring some money since I I use credit unions. I'll start. I'll start trying to use that bar. Okay. Yeah I was doing some queuing this weekend and people like lining up. Nope credit union Is you don't have to queue like you do at the bank Very nice. Well done. I like to say line up like an American like an American. That's right. That works for me We take an elevator and we use a wrench Americans Casey McKinnon noted Canadian actress now an American dual citizen in fact Which show Casey she's she's been a podcaster video web star. I've been doing a lot of theater work The cast was the big Yeah, yeah I know her. Yeah, and she never once or twice or something A bunch of theater stuff here in LA. I've been to a couple of her plays. They're really good Yeah, she played Dr. Kennedy in one. She was great She and I We like to comment on each other's cat photos Yeah As you do. Yep. I'm gonna turn my AC down real quick I've still got to figure this whole thing out. I didn't have something to turn down Her armor What's it? What's the thing in D&D anything else and your AC is your armor? Yeah, your hip armor What's the sea? It's a Armor Not crit armor Credit no Class class class. That's it. Geez. Why can't we not think of that hurt trying to get it out? That was painful Last time I played D&D was no he brings bacon for Being able to remember bacon and the proper terms from Dean bringing it all yep all the way from Europe Who's the last time you played D&D? You can bring home the bacon and fry it up in pan and never let you forget class is what you're trying to pick up This is why it's embarrassing Roger. I play D&D every Saturday for three hours and I couldn't remember it Played it Seven eight years Classy I'm a lot of fun with fifth edition a class. He's out. I never really got into D&D as a kid I think you should reevaluate your priorities. Yeah, I mean, I just didn't like I wasn't really big into the fantasy Maybe I was I liked sci-fi I like the combat. So I just played like battle tech Okay, the battle take is like Microsoft Q1 results because that would be awesome If you could write that up for us to talk about in the show. Did I just happen? Yes, wait Roger I'm gonna put it on line 23 There it is the verge Record and the reason I'm forcing it is record Q1 results because of cloud surface and gaming like they are killing it That's great. Yeah Well done Everyone there Nice work good good job Kroger ring. Yeah Kroger in the TARDIS. You've Kroger'd it All right, we'll just squeeze that in at the end of the top stories Shall We begin soon then maybe in a minute. Yeah, everyone can take a minute to get get yourselves prepared Get right with your preferred deities baby What if you don't have any burnish your armor class? Yep, there you go Yeah Roll for initiative Uh ready check That's good. It's good Exactly the right thing to have said just now Party is ready for a date TNS Good. Well, then we'll start in 24 seconds exactly everyone just Enjoy this time while you got it. Yep. This is your meditation for the day 10 seconds think about Your regrets. Yeah Everything you meant to do but never did. All right, three two Thanks to everyone who supports a Daily Tech news show directly to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday October 24th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane in Salt Lake City. I'm Scott Johnson and From somewhere in LA County a roger chain Roger's busy putting the dot a dot in the eyes and crossing the T's put the T's on the eyes I don't know what he's doing to get us the Microsoft earnings information and good news for Microsoft from the earnings Well, let's start with a few other tech things you should know Facebook loves to redesign its messenger app and has done so again this time to reduce clutter on the main screen Consolidating nine tabs into three focusing more on chat There's a tab for chat Of course a tab called people that has contacts and then a tab called discover which includes businesses and games Still kind of a mess. Hey Google has added access to personal search data to the menu of its main search web page on the web and on Android and iOS apps actually used it today Google's Google users rather have had the ability to see what data has been collected and deleted if they wish But they had to go into their account settings and find those options That's now just smack dab underneath the search window HP announced updates to its specter 360 line of laptops including a new 13 inch model with a claimed 22.5 hour peak battery life up 37 percent over the previous model model also has the option for gigabit class LTE the 15 inch model has a peak battery life of 17.5 hours and both models arrive in November 13 inch model starts at a thousand one hundred fifty bucks fifteen inch 1390 bucks the 14 inch elite book x 360 10 40 g file convertible for business customers also as an option for gigabit LTE That's coming in late October starting price at $1,499 Let's talk a little bit more about how Samsung just wants to fold everything. They do indeed And according to Samsung's vice president for marketing a PC's lean and show Said Samsung is collaborating with display makers to develop laptops with foldable displays They will not just simply fold in and out but create new value and user experience That's the end of that quote Lee also told Korea the Korea Herald that Samsung sells around 3.2 million PCs every year And they plan or and they say it plays a central role quote an increasing connectivity with other mobile devices That's the Korea Herald newspaper not just some Korean guy named Harold I'm the Korean Herald. There's more than one of those first of all All right I actually am a big fan of the idea of foldable displays and I have been since they've been rumored and talked about a CES and other stuff because because of what he just said There's going to be use cases where a quarter-sized version of your screen or something will be useful Where a full screen or a half screen is not I love the idea that we'll be able to get to a place one day where the size of the device is Fluid and we can change it move it You know tweak it to fit whatever specific need what those needs are I don't know But I love the idea of a foldable display. Well, I do too, but I'm I'm I don't know either I know we keep hearing about them certainly at CES every year it gets more and more foldable rollable you know You can create like various sizes of panels on a display that can be large or small But no one's doing anything like that. We're just talking about how cool it would be Do you either of you use two-in-ones? Like tablets with keyboards that you need twist around fold around turn into tents anything like that a little bit No, no, I mean I died I have in the past but not currently really seems to be useful is Oh instead of having to deal with a hinge I could take that HP folio with that leatherette case that bends and actually bend the screen and do cool I just want to fold them put them in my pocket if you want that real true. Maybe you'll be able to do that someday Italy is finding both Samsung and Apple five million euros each for intentionally slowing down its citizens phones Apple also received an additional five million euro fine for failing to provide customers information on maintaining and replacing batteries You might recall that Apple previously admitted to slowing down older phones when its OS detected a failing battery in order to extend the battery's life I'll be honest. I think this is unfair to both companies I don't think they were intentionally trying to make their phones obsolete and I know most of you disagree with me and that's fine That you are probably right, but my gut tells me that they really were trying to manage battery life and That is specifically what Apple has said Samsung hasn't commented on what was going on there You know in a way that would extend the life of your phone But the knee jerk reaction is oh, but if they're slowing down my phone, that's to make me buy a new one Granted, I don't think they mind if that made you buy a new one I don't think it's purely out of the goodness of their heart and they're doing everything they can to keep you from having to buy I don't I don't think that either But I think there's a legitimate reason to cause an older phone to try to extend the battery life That would appear to slow down the phone. So I completely agree with this and so there's at least two of us who are in accord here I Think that the both I can again, so I'm saying doesn't said who knows but I'll bet it's much better for them from a PR perspective that your phone slows down a little But perhaps in a more gradual granular way in order to preserve battery life Then if it just suddenly got slower because oh time to get a new phone And if it suddenly got really bad battery life, that's also a thing you could say to them Oh, yeah, your battery is only last few years now. I got to get a new phone like they're kind of screwed either way No matter which way they say it so actually I've never really bought into that whole idea that either company is interested in slowing phones down and especially as a secret but Apple in particular is really leaning into this now that last keynote was all about We know that you're keeping your phones much longer And so here are the things we're gonna give you and also you want to use them less Here's a weekly report of how much time you're spending on Twitter Like they really leaned into that. I thought was a bit of a surprise that last keynote. Yeah, I Don't think Apple wanted to slow down phones just to make people buy new phones I mean sure the company would like everyone to buy a new phone every every time there's a new one announced But I agree that that's not it's not that cut and dry I do almost lean to the point of listen if something's going wrong with the battery and The company doesn't want your phone to just stop working entirely for everything to slow down a little bit So at least it's smooth sailing even if it's a little bit more slow smooth sailing It's not necessarily the end of the world However, I do I I to my knowledge was not a person that was affected by this If I knew that I was I would be ticked that the company hadn't Communicated it better and that's why this I agree with the second fine that Italy gave Apple for not informing customers on maintaining and replacing batteries That that's what they shouldn't maybe get in trouble for I don't know if it's five million euro fine or not That's a different conversation, but but yeah, tell people what you're doing be transparent about it Transparency is a big theme of Tim Cooks these days warnings of slowing demand from chip makers Texas instruments and ST microelectronics has caused the stock market to back off Chicks chip stocks in general today affecting companies like Micron Intel and AMD a little bit a couple percentage points, but Texas Instruments is The canary in the coal mine For this sort of thing Texas Instruments forecast its weakest Q4 since 2013 Ti makes analog sensors that often take things like sound or air pressure And turn it into digital readings for a range of products things from cars to phones, etc Often ti is used these days as an indicator of the direction of the semiconductor market in general so Not much else to say about this to be honest other than you know, this is this is something to note if you're following that market closely it goes back to The idea of we're maturing in that market like you know and people are keeping their devices longer and I feel like we say this saw the same kind of slowdown with with PCs at one point this of course includes that but We can't expect the demand to be as high as it you know as it is traditionally when there's when these things are new So this doesn't really shock me too much. Well, hold on you're talking about PCs there There are a lot of new devices out there This I think this is just a chip cycle, but you could make the argument like cars should be there Everybody's talking about building new cars. Yeah, you'd think it'd be ramping up rather than No, that's yeah, I guess maybe I guess I wouldn't be surprised to find out the traditional Traditional places where you would normally think of a chip being your phone your computer or whatever They're being a slowdown there, but usually you'd see this stuff shift to other markets I didn't really consider I use ti is sort of the canary in the coal mine because They're not subject to the shift of like a people just aren't buying laptops anymore. They're there More in a multiple number of devices. So they're a better general indicator, I think Well, uh, all I know is my fridge could use a chip that reminds me not to eat garbage in it I guess this is a fact that you're not buying a smart fridge. No, uh, this is this is an indication that the semiconductor market just Overproduced you know, it would be great if a fridge was so smart that You could order food via the fridge and it could just be like, no, that's vetoed Because I'm not putting that in myself. I wish To me I wish a lot of I wish certain restaurants would do that for me I feel like this is not for you Well, you know, there's a donut shop near me that I've gone to two days in a row And I'd like them to stop denying me service Apple pay just stops working at Randy's It's like no, you don't need another one of those now. No, yeah square. Sorry square squares down I'm not I'm not saying I've never eaten whole box the cocoa puffs. I'm just saying maybe I have Uh, let's get into the information who is reporting That is the organization of news not the actual information Anyway, they report its sources say Apple will launch its tv service in the first half of 2019 in more than 100 Countries that's a big rollout Starting with the u.s It will include original shows commissioned by apple along with the ability to subscribe to other services like showtime HBO and the like it will supposedly be free for apple device owners Although I don't know that that's been 100 confirmed. Well, these are all these are all unconfirmed These are all sources saying so in the case of the the showtime hbo model That is the prime model like that's what amazon prime does They're all about the add-on services and that Little notion there is a very interesting one because if your basic product is free and that includes a bunch of stuff Including a bunch of apple original content And if you have their apple tv or you have a phone or a tablet or whatever With an apple name on it, then that's a great way to get in And then you start doing these add-on services. I could see how this would be a model for them I mean, this is nothing new in here. We've heard all these rumors before the information is a very reliable Reporter of this sort of thing. I think the thing that caught my eye sara is they said it will be free for apple device owners But the information doesn't seem to be hitting the other point We've heard which is and nobody else will get it. Maybe there will be A fourth pay subscription version for non-apple owners. Yeah, when I when I first read this story I was like, okay first half of 2019 if that happens great that would probably mean that it would be announced next week One would think unless they're gonna have yet another event and that's possible as well But it's true that that is Because we had a whole conversation gosh two weeks ago now I I guess about the idea of content being exclusive to a certain ecosystem in this case apple devices So if it is not And I still don't think it will be that's just that that's just that's what i'm saying for the record I don't think that apple would be that exclusive With content that they'd like to become huge hits all on netflix or hbo or any of the other Networks that that have had hit shows lately. Um, Free for apple device users part of apple music for others Well, could they just not put it in apple music? Could they just Could they just fix apple music and iTunes? But yeah, I I hear what you're saying if it if it was bundled in to the I don't know How would that look? Well, they do carpool karaoke in there right now. So they probably just create a new section or something. Yeah, interesting Well, let's see that that's more of a music Like they're deal they have with sorkin whatever this is gonna look like and and some big spielberg stuff being thrown around Everything I feel like they don't want to limit Who's can see this with it with some artificial thing like hey if you're an apple device owner then you're in I think too. It's it's it would be I mean unless it was Something that you know apple just really betting on it being such a big hit that people were just like I can't I can't uh be left out anymore. I'm gonna go buy a You know 10 s plus But I just I that's that's ludicrous Mm-hmm. It's it's possible, but I I think it's pretty improbable Yeah Mozilla released firefox 63 Included enhanced tracking protection, which is a new feature that blocks third-party trackers to increase privacy, obviously Mozilla previously announced upcoming features like blocking add tracking software by default And also just partnered with proton vpn to sell subscriptions to a small group of firefox users Enhanced tracking protection will be off by default But when it's turned on it gives users the option to block third-party tracking cookies Block all trackers and then also of course add exceptions for trusted sites It's essentially privacy badger built into firefox. Um, and I I think it's good that it's off by default because for an average user Having it on would make it feel like maybe the web was broken like maybe this browser doesn't work So you want to give people a little education before they turn it on to say Hey, a lot of sites won't be able to work properly or may treat you like you're using an ad blocker If you're blocking their trackers and so you should you should know how to handle those permissions before you get into this Yeah, I I think you're right. Um, and in the past I've encouraged folks to use ad blocking software Or you know plugins or whatever and you know, some of some of them have come back to me and been like This sucks. It's always making, you know, I have to you know, do these exceptions and it's it's just not for everybody Not everybody cares Microsoft released its 2019 financial results. As I mentioned, uh revenue of 29.1 billion dollars is up 19% net income of 8.8 billion up 34% It is a record q1 Uh, this is microsoft's first quarter of its fiscal year mostly due to the cloud but Pretty much good news all over. Uh surface revenue increased 14 percent year over year to 1.1 billion dollars There was a time when people wondered if surface was just a loss leader Looks like it's shaping up to be a decent sector of its own Gaming revenue increased 44 percent including 94 growth in xbox hardware revenue Attributed to the launch of the xbox 1x And the number of xbox live active users also grew to 57 million this quarter. So Big growth in cloud in azure, etc Which has recently sort of been the money maker, uh for for microsoft but also positive news for surface and gaming. That's great Yeah, gaming in particular. Um, this is great to see because they've had kind of a rough go of it this generation Which we're now well into and already talking about what might be around the corner for both, uh, sony and microsoft as the big two players, but Uh, this is really good to hear. I think part of this, uh, I read the urge article and they don't go deep into it But I have to think that a big part of the gaming revenue is also Due to the growth of the game pass subscription Which gets more and more attractive every time I look at it I'm just close to getting it and it also brings in pc players and lets them play their xbox games or xbox titles You buy there on your pc and have those saves synced and it's a really kind of a brilliant thing And it's basically netflix for games It needs more games Just like a netflix competitor would need more movies and tv shows to compete with netflix But it's a great start. It's a really good price. And I think it's an awesome move for them Plus the gaming stuff is very synergistic with the growth and azure and all our cloud products Like there's a lot happening there that's super exciting as we get closer to a potential 2020 2021 You know announcement of a new console and consoles selling well Not just for microsoft, which you know has been playing catch up to the playstation But but consoles in general not tailing off a lot of people I think thought maybe we just start seeing them fade out, but turns out Doing really well and helping microsoft's bottom line I'll remember the report from yesterday about you know teenagers and consoles. So Maybe it's all the teens. Hello fellow teenagers. Would you like to play this console game with me? The teenagers saving microsoft. Who would have thunk it? Yeah, we still want to just escape reality sometimes games are good at that turns out Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure that you subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com All right apple CEO tim kook gave a keynote speech at the international conference of data protection and privacy commissioners now that's a party Uh, that's happening in brussels right now. Uh kook was No, are they really keynotes of multiple people give them tim burners lia also giving a keynote at the same conference So that just bugs me sometimes like well, isn't shouldn't the keynote Be the one Anyway, given a speech tim kook gave a big speech Uh praised europe's gdpr regulations called for similar protections in the us and elsewhere kook said personal data Quote is being weaponized against us with military efficiency He said a privacy law should minimize the amount of personal data collected by companies combined with transparency Over what is collected and the right for people to not only access their data, but be sure it's secure He said and i'll quote again again For artificial intelligence to be truly smart. It must respect human values including privacy If we get this wrong the dangers are profound. We can achieve both great artificial intelligence and Great privacy standards. It's not only a possibility. It's a responsibility We don't think of tim kook's fiery privacy protection speech Yeah, it's intense. I really like it. Also. I like the two two major tims gave a speech at this at this thing But tim kook getting out there and really firing it up. We were talking about tms on tms earlier today just briefly about this and It is it is interesting to see how this actually Serves apple for the kind of company that they are the ones to sell me a new device that I can then use to Do the things I do And that's where they want me they don't need to sell ads and I need to gather a bunch of personal information to do other Things they just need me to be in the ecosystem to be interested in their hardware and so on and They're leaning into that and I think that's probably Exactly what you would do if you were tim kook because that's what apple's business model is if tim kook worked for Google I doubt they would be as quick to You know have this sort of language in their keynote given the fact that they need to collect that data to sell ads Which is still one of their primary revenue models. So Anyway, at the end of the day, I appreciate this approach Even if it may just be also strategically useful for them as a company I appreciate it as a user and as someone who is concerned about privacy and about data collection and about security of said data I like that they are They're they're pushing in that direction. I wish more would well and tim kook really I I agree I I'm I'm on his side on this one But really kind of going on the offensive lately It wasn't that long ago that tim kook was sort of a the shadowy successor to steve jobs who was very private and You know, maybe a little clunky at apple's own keynote events but but wasn't yeah, didn't have this sort of uh Bravado is not the words. No, he was folksy and this is not folksy. Exactly fiery. Yeah, and I didn't I don't know. I'm trying to think of if I if I felt any of this at the latest keynote that you know, we watched You know where they introduced new iPhones and those events are you know, they're all a little schmaltzy because it's all kind of You know cheering apple people cheering for apple people, but um I have seen a shift in him and I like where it's going um, I like his persona coming out and I I I feel like He really means it. You know, I'm sure there's some strategy here going on But I think that what he's talking about is is is is actually more of a It's a it's a human conversation more than it is Uh, bottom line conversation for corporations. I think he does mean it I thought I think it's also easy for him to say Scott because uh, he's like white our business model isn't built on risking privacy as much So I can safely rail against those who risk your privacy Sure, but but At the same time they are doing some things like recently we've mentioned the new privacy section on apple allows you to download all your data Which they're billing as privacy because it's not an apple's interest to highlight the fact that this is also data portability If you want to leave the apple universe, you're getting all your data from apple Uh by doing that now granted some of this drm like purchases and stuff So it's not entirely breaking down the walls of the garden But they are doing some things that maybe aren't necessarily and entirely their best interests if they were simply guided Uh by the corporate motivations unless you consider that one of the corporate motivations is good press So why not do these things because it's worth it? Uh, I think another part of this uh event that I want to point out and tech crunch uh reported on this as well Europe's data protection supervisor Giovanni buddarelli Said we need to look objectively at how technologies have affected people in good ways and bad We need a critical understanding of the ethics Informing decisions by companies governments and regulators whenever they develop and deploy new technologies He also called for a moral code He says we do not have an ethical consensus in europe and we certainly do not have one at a global level We urgently need one. I think this is this is where the conversation happens, which is Granted, uh, we had a way to deal with public Perceptions and public data up until the internet came And using The status of like well Yes, anybody can see my file at the courthouse But they have to travel to the courthouse and they have to wait around And so there's a natural delay in getting it So not everybody's going to do it Suddenly is a different calculus when wow all my personal information is available not only like that online But without me even knowing they're collecting it Uh, this is all new and so the old safeguards that were sort of built around Natural barriers to accessing your personal information are no longer there Uh, and no longer working. So you need to have a new ethics. I I really like what Giovanni Butarelli is saying we need to have an ethics of personal information And it's new you can't just use the old one anymore than you could take the model of of lp's from the 70s and apply it to mp3's Yeah, there is a tendency to want to rely on existing norms when it comes to changes like this And it's across the board technology politics, whatever it may be There's a real chance right now And perhaps this these voices are echoing that there's a real chance for us to establish. What does the future of? privacy of ai of data collection Of ownership of that data like what does that actually look like and we're and if we're not shaping it now we're I agree. We're making a huge mistake because you know 20 years from now They won't matter what we wish we would have done we got to do it now And uh, I don't know I for one think tim cook was on to something and probably you'll end up Improving the image of apple and selling products as a result You can and and maybe and maybe not only improving the image of apple but Hurting the image of competing companies who aren't saying what tim cook is saying You know, there's there's there there is always that not just to sell products But strategies, you know tim cook might have an inkling of what might be Coming down the pipe As it were Series of tubes. Thanks everybody who participates in our sub reddit submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show Dot reddit.com. We're also on facebook facebook.com slash group slash daily tech news show And we get mail we get lots and lots of letters Well, they're emails and they go in the mail bag and then sarah reads them like this one Correct kimberley the texas teacher wanted to thank us in fact She wanted to thank scott personally for reminding folks to check if establish accounts had 2fa available She said thanks scott for sharing your story of having uh, your accounts compromise. I did a check I found several and now uh, that had 2fa available Including Comcast Kimberley says sunday. I was running a free place deem activity for kids Parents attended a talk my phone was put away while I was working with kids with all the setup And actual activities and packing up that's about three hours when I was leaving I checked my phone There were 20 text from Comcast with different two factor authentication security codes Somebody was trying to do something with my account I was able to go in and quickly change my password Then they all stopped when I got home. I called Comcast I let them know about the suspicious activity the people I talked to had no idea what 2fa was And swore up and down that nobody was trying to change or add something to my account They didn't offer any service that would text me a code That part was frustrating, but at least my account is secure now That's fantastic. I remember uh, I mean that that that was from the episode or episodes where I was really having a bummer time with uh Getting hacked left and right and had all kinds of weird stuff going on and boy was out of wake up call for me So I am thrilled to hear somebody got something out of that Out of my pain. It feels good. It's it's like, uh, it's like Checking the batteries in your smoke alarm like twice a year on daylight savings change You should you should check your 2fa options to see which ones are new and implement them. Yep And then batteries on your smoke alarm Every every year on daylight saving time. I check the batteries on my smoke alarm. I just wait till it starts beeping and then I get upset and Rip it out of the ceiling On our post-missi era discussion yesterday Raul said if we go strictly by what a pc personal computer stands for then all consumer mobile devices are pc's But if we are talking about the big legacy devices We left and leave at home Then we are entering a new era Consider that the microsoft office suite is available for both tablets and phones adobe is releasing full versions of software for tablets That means I don't have to wait until I get home to use lightroom or photoshop I assume other applications will follow films have been made on iphone's dig at the point Thank you. Raul good perspective and thank you to scott johnson for being with us this fine Wednesday scott what is going on with you? Well, I'll tell you what one of the things you were talking about yesterday and your wrap-up and stuff that involved One patrick beija or maybe that was monday. When's his day? What's his day? 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Yeah All your friends will be here Like apple and google Well, if it isn't her old friend amazon Oh gosh, yeah, what would amazon's voice be facebook's would be I don't know you're interested in snails. You might also like How do you always know everything about me? Oh google well I have lots of brains I have a little And then apple would sort of just be like, you know, the know-it-all. Yeah, just real snotty of the card. Yeah You all are doing it wrong. Yeah, that's not doesn't look as good. You can't come into my You're holding that wrong. Yeah, I really white playhouse There's the uh, there's the two tims aluminium oh for titles as well as Uh, what was it apples privacy transparency? Microsoft's cloudy day profits Okay, these these are your favorites. I'm just of what's available right now. Yeah, okay Let's help roger who has a head cold Well, there's a lot of fold, but we did fold two days ago. Yeah fold the That's all Yeah, fold my calls Fold my calls was a good one. Can't pop that. Sorry folks No, the other the other korean herald I think that yeah, that's good in the show joke. I don't know if it makes a good time, right, right I love that you said it though from being over Pretty funny All right, so The two tims then two teams The two teams Yeah, that's oh, we could go, uh, serious and just do like, uh, the ethics of privacy sure I like that Oh, yeah, doesn't have to all be uh, jokie much jokie Yeah, fix some privacy. We're sure this is 33 95, right? Yes, 3395 That is the correct number because I have 3393 in my id three tags from yesterday, but maybe that was still wrong Because we yeah wait from yesterday. Yeah, that that should that that was wrong. It should have been Okay, good back on track 3394 was yesterday Mm-hmm Mm-hmm French fried titers Kaiser blade I calls it a sling blade I like that movie I like I never watched it. It's good. It's uh different There's something about what's his name. I just really can't get into really Love building hub Thornton. Yeah, let's tell him about him He's off putting him off, but I I think it depends on the movie. Mm-hmm. You can uh Poor tv show is really good in that goliath show on amazon I haven't watched that but I I actually do like Billy Bob Thornton generally, but like you say it kind of depends on the movie And kind of he was really good on that Fargo season where he was the bad guy. Oh, yeah, he's great He's a good good bad guy Well, he was amazing in that I am rewatching dead like me on amazon Oh dead like me, uh the one uh The one that was good until they made that weird little side movie Side right? Yeah, am I thinking what am I thinking of? Yeah with Mandy Patinkin, right? Mandy Patinkin. Yeah. Yeah more it made like a tv movie thing That was like a follow-up and it was terrible I never watched that so I guess I should oh life after death Yeah, I was that Mandy Patinkin on Chicago Hope. Yes. There's also a demon toy And and yeah That was absolutely him And yeah, I think an adventure His own personal blog Well, I was so I've been watching the romanoffs Yeah, and how is that? I like it. It's it's little vignette Stories, it's kind of threaded, but it's I don't know. It's unusual, but um, please don't judge me if you hate it, but I like it That's what I'm saying. Yeah That's what it should be called. Oh For some reason feel like they have to explain it. I mean, obviously you like it Yeah, I don't care if anyone cares whether I like something or not, but Yeah But one of the episodes has Noah Wiley in it And it's like it's amazing how because I used to love er and Chicago Hope both It's like I remember all of the doctor's like character names Even though I haven't watched that show in so long because it was such a big deal er especially um In fact, roger, I don't know if you remember this but er was really big when we were in college Yes, and it got a lot like got a lot of video people talking for the z-axis work that they did because because it was I don't know the camera work was somehow uh unusual for the style of hollywood You know, it's very much the over the shoulder shot on everything. Yeah, yeah Yeah, you know and It's like like we would study episodes of that show in school It was the best And then they started cramming every up and coming actor into it as kind of a launch vehicle For them and it just became like like the story is just kind of kept Well, and then George Clooney laughed and it's like come on, you know Lasted like nine years I don't remember how long it lasted. It lasted a long time. It was I mean it was It was a very big deal at its time. But anyway, so I was like dr. Carter You know like Noah waley has done lots of things since then including playing steve jobs. So I'm like, it's dr. Carter Yeah, he was real good on that. Um When he played steve jobs in that silicon valley thing. Yeah, I liked him on that Wait, you mean the steve jobs movie. No the one that was like it's pirates of silicon valley Yeah, yeah that and he was and then he had that sci-fi show on tnt or somewhere Where the world's taken over by aliens and he leads this like rag tag a survivors group to fight back Oh, yeah Of what was that show? That was a good show. It's still beyond actually I stopped watching it before it got cancelled. I think it did finally get cancelled though. Okay Yeah fire in the sky or something like that. It's like a place in st. Louis Yes, even though it was there was nothing recognizable about st. Louis and they kept going up into the hills of st. Louis And I'm like, yeah The aliens came the story was the aliens came because they hated the cardinals so bad They were just like that's it really. Yeah, no not really I made that part up They hated the blues Yes, they hated the blues anything that resembled the house of the blues Let's get us out of here I know a smidgen of what it's like to be a yankees fan Um, it was uh, the best of times It was the worst There were a lot of sad people Trudging around my neighborhood with their doctors hats on last night I tried not to what's nice is that I can kind of like heckle people because I have a big dog with me So they're like, you know I'm a scary person She must be from boston. Have you been wearing your giant's hat around? Uh, you know what? It's actually packed. So no, but I will um, and I socks hat I I don't have a socks. I don't care about the red socks at all, but I'm rooting for them That's why I said rent just a renting the red socks Oh I'm not going to rent the red socks. No, I have a pair of red socks There you go. They never match anything. I never wear them Because it's like if they'll stick out of your jeans, you know, if you cross your legs and it's like they kind of look weird I haven't worn them since 1918. I just wear them at christmas pretty much Play anymore Um, no, I uh, I yeah, I I look forward to being heckled as well. That's the fun of it And then Otis will sick him he actually Probably is incapable of doing that. He's afraid of everything including ducks Which we learned today at the lake Or Otis He's I think he's just he has He has new neighborhood new smells new everything just sort of like, ah, what's happening? Just got settled with you is like, okay, this is my forever home and you're and now he's like, right And he's like, where's the beach? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so we're I think we're eventually we're going to be cool with ducks Um, but for now he was like this morning. He was like Just looking at me like I don't want to go over there with all the because there's a bunch of ducks It was really cute. I try not to laugh at him, but I'm just like you are Like the biggest freaky cat ever For dog. Scott. How's your new pup doing? She's great. She um We take her to the dog park in the mornings now every morning and she loves it. I'm she couldn't be better. She's just an awesome Goofy dog. She's gotten bigger since thoms are but um doing great. Oh, she did pull She pulled a nail off yesterday while she was playing with a great dain So now she's kind of limpy, but other than that she's fine Well, I'm glad to hear that she did eat a cat poo, which really bothered me Oh, that is this one. I've seen him go into the litter box more than once. Yeah, it's not cool They just want that tune up to I'm not even yeah Like I'm not even sure if he's like trying to get anything or if he just Is obsessed with it because he's not supposed to be in there. It's entirely possible. I don't know I can't tell you but we're watching we're keeping a At the tight eye on that one now. Oh, yeah Oh Right for a variety of reasons, but she's Sweet as ever. Oh good She's not chewing anything anymore, which is good So I've been researching like tv mounting services just because it's like I have to mount my tv and um I usually just go to yelp first and just get a sense of like if there's like one, you know service or a person who's Yeah, super highly rated this um This this review for uh, a guy named frank who does this was this is Watching frank work is like watching winston wolf from pulp fiction work downright impressive. Wow Mike that's a great tv mounting experience. All right, so if you do this Let me know how it goes because eileen really wants to mount the tv on the wall in the bedroom And i'm still a skeptical Oh, once you do it it makes everything so much more flush I'm a big. I mean, it's a heat. It's a hassle to do it But once it's done, you know, it's you get the arm that allows you to pull the tv out that makes all the difference to me Just mounting it. It can be a nightmare for cable man, but We'll see. No, I don't get the arm Because I I don't want it to stick out. I want it to be like a picture I want to be able to pull it away from the wall so I can get to the ports easier and that's I'm thinking about the projector What I think well, so what I did in my old apartment is For all the ports. I had The cables Connected to the ports that had them drilled through the back of the wall and then out the bottom So it's like that's see that sure sure it'd be an issue if one of the cables went kaput Yeah, but but it made it easy to you know, switch stuff out without having to like have a bunch of cables hanging down that you could see I don't know. That's not enough flexibility for me. It probably is for most people. I just yeah, I hear you. I hear you David Prager Has one of the coolest if you like a tv arm because his the house that he lives in It's just set up in a way where where the tv is Is facing exactly opposite away from the kitchen But it's an open plan at the same time And so you'd spend a lot of time not being able to look at the tv Yeah, if you really wanted to enjoy the room, it's just the way it's just the way that it's set up So he has an arm that goes like I mean it's it's It's at least 180 degrees It might even be more because it kind of wraps around this wall that sort of ends And at first when he was explaining to me, I'm like, this is going to look so bad Like just don't do it. I don't know figure out another solution buy a new house I don't know but once I saw it. I was like, this is so cool because you can literally you can watch it from so many different areas of It's uh, was it a wall mount? Yeah, yeah, it's mounted on the wall. It's mounted on one side of the wall. So it's like it can go Back almost flush where you could pick up those mats at uh, casca Yeah, oh Well, I don't know it's the first time I've ever I've ever seen something so dramatic in action that I was like Oh, yeah, you did the right thing You know, you did the right thing by watching video today. Thank you for doing that Uh, you also did the right thing if you're listening on audio because then you can stick around there's more to come I just lost my pen