 If it's a partner, that's going to be holding a pad, like bring a pad. But if he's holding a pad, if it's a stiff punch, it's going to be... You can hear the thud, right? It's a thud. And if it's more relaxed, it's going to be more of a smack. The pitch is higher, right? And which one do you think causes more damage? The second one, because it goes into the target more.