 Ellen, you got it. Finally, they finally sent me an invitation. Incredible. Yeah. Only a year and a half later. Nobody else is waiting right now. So that's good. So you'll share your screen. I'll watch for the participants. Sarah. Or vice versa. If you have it up, I don't have it up right now. Sorry to say it again. Or I'm happy to watch for participants. I don't have the agenda. I'd have to like go in my email and download it. So I haven't made Sarah calls yet. Yeah. You watch the participants then. And promote them all to panelists. I just promoted Gavin. So I will get rid of participants. Gavin and Lauren, I don't know if you can hear me, but I've promoted you to panelists. So you should be able to click. The invitation and log back in as a panelist, which will allow you to, to speak and turn on your cameras. Looks like Gavin raised his hand. We haven't quite started, but Gavin, if you wanted to say something you could. Yeah, hi, I'm Gavin. This is my friend Lauren. I just wanted to make an introduction to community engagement class at UMass Amherst. And one of our assignments is to attend a public meeting. And so that's why I work here today. Just to see how they work and how they, and we're going to make the other project do a couple of weeks about anything right about it and stuff like that. Great. Welcome. Welcome. Yeah. And probably have you introduced yourself again once everyone else joins. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else coming in. Yeah. I'm just going to go ahead and go ahead. Nina. Augustine. I've promoted you to panelists. There should be a button for you to click on so that then you'll be able to talk and share your camera. So where is the rest of the committee though? Did anyone say they weren't making it today? Just Bennett. Sean is often late and. Brit. Does anyone have Brits phone number? No, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. All right. Pressuring cannot have a quorum. Would you like me to text Shoshana? Sure. Okay. And do you want to take minutes on. Sure. I want to officially remind everybody that we are recording at the moment, even though we haven't officially started the. Meeting. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Or you said Bennett cannot come. You're on mute, Henry. Okay. Julian is coming. Ben. It's not Julian's having trouble getting on. Okay. To text him the link. Which would be the link from the town website, not the official link. I can only email it to him. I can text it. If you give me his numb. Hold on. Okay. What's his phone number? 413. Yeah. 658. 7611. So I'll get the link off the town website or show you send them a panelist one. No, send them the link off the town website. Yep. Find it. And Gavin and your friend whose name I already forgot. We're going to do today and discuss our committee. And Leon, if you want to join too. Has she been promoted? Sarah. There you are. Hi. Welcome. So we're a town official town government. Or made up of volunteers. The job is to help the tree wooden. Make decisions around protecting street trees. We discuss all kinds of things. We educate people about the importance of street trees. And then if someone wants to remove a public shade tree, which is a tree within the right of way of the town. Then we meet and discuss that. And we advise the tree warden who's sitting here, Alan snow. And he makes the final decision. We're an advisory committee. I'll put the agenda up. You can see some of the things we're going to talk about today. Okay. Okay. Can everyone see that? Yes. Yes. Great. Just make your pictures bigger. There we go. So as a official government agency, we. Do have to take minutes, record minutes, you know, approve them, et cetera. Then we give our reports. I'll explain what's coming on email and things like that. And then we have the various issues we're talking about. That's under number six presentations and discussions. So you see, we do quite a varied list of different things. And that'll become clearer as we go on. Do you have any questions? Unfortunately without. Having four of our seven members here, we can't have an official meeting. So. I think Julian is coming. I just arrived. I apologize. I'm late. We've been having some trouble getting the wifi to work. Okay. Julian's our vice chair. I'm going to stop sharing for a minute. Leona, do you want to tell us what brings you here today? Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. Hi, I'm Leona, I guess. And I am a grad student at UMass studying regional planning and planning department. And I'm also working on a project in Amherst. So just learning more about. Different projects in Amherst as well. What is your product project about? Right now I'm working on, they're doing a Pavilion at the Renaissance center. So I'm helping doing a project. I'm also working on a project in Amherst. I'm also working on a project at the Renaissance center. So I'm helping doing some drafting work for. The firm that's working on that. And then. For class. I'm also working on a fire station project. Because I think they're replacing the department of public work site with a new fire station. So I'm making up conceptual ideas for that project as well. Great. So, I'm working on it as well. So Sean is coming. Okay, I, we should have a quorum then there she is. We have a quorum now. Oh, good. So we'll wait one more minute. I'll put the agenda back up. So are there any other announcements or public comments? Okay. Can we approve the September minutes? Does anyone have any changes or corrections? All right. Henry, did you send them out? I couldn't find them in the email. They go out. Yep. Okay. Do you send them out really early? Yeah. I send them out right after the last meeting. Oh, I think I'm sorry. I think I sent them out the day after the meeting. I meant the agenda. I'm sorry. Oh, the agenda. Yeah, that went out. But here you can see the agenda up here. Yeah. Yeah. It all goes out, but, uh, yeah. All right. So all in favor of approving the minutes. All right. Hey, we can see Julian. There you go. So we have the minutes. I'll get them posted. And volunteer hours. We record all the hours we put into the committee. And when we apply for a tree city, USA award. We have a total of volunteer hours is one of the things that we use to show that we're active. So I've put in about, um, Maybe 18 hours this month. Sarah. Two. Julian. 15. Okay. Ellen. Five. Shashana. Um, five. Okay. And we don't know about Bennett and. Who else am I missing? Great. Great. I didn't hear back from her. Let me just actually check that. Nope. Nothing from great. Okay. Um, okay. So that's the volunteer hours. And then. There were several volunteers at the tree planting. So maybe five people for a couple of hours each. That's not right. So it'd be another 10 hours. Good. Yeah. My chair's report. Um, Not a ton of things going on. That's the wrong piece of paper. Where's my, Oh yeah. Um, did you guys, anybody interested in doing the DCR training department of conservation and recreation training? When is it? That's on Friday. It's the 14th. Yeah, Friday. What time if it's not in my school. I was in one of the emails I sent. Okay, great. Let me find it. Thank you. It may be too late to sign up, but it's a really great thing. Sarah, have you done that? Yes, I did it. My first year. It was great. I'm Julian. I remember it being all day and all day affair. It's changed this year. Is it different? Yeah, it's much smaller thing this year. But it was great. There were a lot of really good speakers. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone knows Alan. So that was a great way for me to connect. Um, you know, mentioning that I'm on the tree committee and that I knew Alan and, um, a lot of the people were, uh, Other tree wardens, um, you know, from different places around the state. Um, And there were some really great talks about invasive species. Um, we did a tree planting. Um, We did a group, um, reviewed tree planting. Um, and then there were a number of different speakers. So it really, it really was a great conference. I was glad that I went. Thank you. Um, yeah. So I recommend everyone on the committee doing it. If they can. Julie and it would definitely help you. Um, I was at the big E helping out in the maple. Um, I was there with her, um, legislative assistant. So we talked quite a bit about trees and, uh, she's a big fan of ours and always, um, shares our, our Facebook posts and things. Um, so I talked to her about some of the issues we've talked about that need to happen on a statewide issue. She's supportive, but needs more information, which I sent her. Um, and I'm hoping to encourage other towns to also contact their Congress people and state senators to really push some of these issues. So, um, I can talk more about the issues later, but, uh, we'll see if this time later at the meeting. Um, I talked to Paul Bockelman, the town manager. We're still not, um, able to go to live meetings. Over someone who told me we were, that's not true. So, uh, he knows we want to. I think we do. I want to at least. Yeah. And then the only other thing I have is, uh, this Sunday I'll be giving my tree talk at the Unitarian church in Greenfield. Instead of the sermon, I'll be the. The sermon, I guess, you know, I'll be talking about trees and how incredibly complex they are. So. That's open to the public. If you want to come at 1030 next Sunday. You can hear me talk about trees. And, uh, I think that's all. Uh, Julian, want to do the vice chair report. Sure. Thank you. Um, so vice chairs report. A few things to cover is just that Henry and I are speaking to the vice chair. I think that's noted. Um, One other thing is that I am planning to meet with the town manager. Um, sometime in the coming weeks in the morning. So if there was anything we wanted to bring up. Uh, it's related to climate and that type of stuff. So, um, I think that's, um, I think that's, um, I think that's, um, one other thing is that I am planning to meet with the town manager sometime in the coming weeks in the morning. Um, I think that's related to climate and that type of stuff. So if we wanted to speak on that, we absolutely could. Um, Cause anything you all would want me to bring up. The other thing I would note is that we. Um, Or at least I was working with the, Oh, what was it? It was. The folks from. Um, I think that on, they were asking me some questions about. Like what has happened with the merry maple, et cetera. Scott said he wasn't going to publish an article, but was interested in hearing from me. And, um, the other thing I would note is that there is a community. Event. Uh, at the Amherst historical society, I believe this weekend. Um, I think that's something under their large tree, um, in front of the historical society. And I think that is all for me. Great. Social media is doing well. Now in tree wardens report. All right. Um, See, uh, it looks like we're going to have a potential tree hearing coming up soon for the. Um, There's one roundabout project. There's one town tree. Uh, it's about a 12 inch tree. And then one, um, I'm not sure if it's actually a town tree or not. If it's outside the public way, but it's pretty close. There's also a cedar tree. On the, uh, Corner of Pomeroy and, um, Rest Street. So that might be coming up for next month. So we can get everything posted properly and everything. Um, Uh, as you're collecting your hours, I was, uh, remembering that, uh, Tree City, USA application will be coming due in. Two months, roughly speaking. Um, We always seem to get caught short a little bit and kind of. Preparing some of our documents and. You know, the detailed, um, Accomplishments of the Shaitree committee. Um, I also need to do a better job on my end. Nobody ever sees the report and kind of goes into a. It's all online, but, um, It is a good way for us to, to make note of everything that we do accomplish and in our tree program accounts. And if we do a good job on preparing that, then we can maybe do a better job on preparing things to be released. You know, locally taking people's attention. Um, They also have a growth award, which, you know, is doing projects which are. Bigger, uh, Different than we've done in the past. Um, can be just, you know, Um, doesn't have to be monetary, but it just be something for education and outreach or, or can be monetary. So we can, um, Spend more time kind of thinking about that and see if we can actually apply for part of that growth award for the town. Um, We still have, um, Uh, Some of the white pine stream move on the Collins street. Uh, the project is moving very quickly and we need to get those down while I was on vacation. And I gave my crew a nice list of things to accomplish as far as tree work goes. And unfortunately I bought the truck. Went in for its annual safety inspection. And the auxiliary electric motor. Uh, which can run the hydraulics on the truck. Uh, failed the test, even though you never use it unless it's an emergency and the hydraulics go down. Uh, they won't let the truck run without that auxiliary motor. So, um, It was down for most of my two weeks of being away. And they managed to get a few things done, but they didn't get as much accomplished. Um, So we're looking to get those McCollum street down trees down soon. Um, so that's a project and get done. I do have, um, Four trees selected for ginkgoes selected for plantings along clowland street that, um, I will have on hand, it would like to plant this fall. And I also have two trees on hand for Lincoln for a planting, um, that I've been working on with a resident there. They're public. Public shade trees, but, um, I've been working with the resident to replace one that we had to take down a dying northern maple. Um, those plantings that either the crew, or maybe the state, the state community can help plant in November, but we'll see. I'd like to get it done by the crew. It just depends on what we have available for time. What else? Um, Amherst college reached out to me to see their, they're actually looking at believe to apply for a treat campus USA designation. And it's something that I've asked them to do for a number of years. And there's been some changes there. And it looks like they're interested in applying for that. Uh, status. And so they asked. If I would be interested in participating in there. They're going to form a, you know, a group. Committee essentially to, um, to help that college with this tree planting and tree. You know, tree care. So I might, um, join their committee. Um, they haven't gotten back to me yet. When the first meeting's going to be. Potentially. What was that? I'm sure any one of us would be happy to join them and help them in any way we can. Yeah. Um, You know, McCollum Street tree. You know, uh, the resident on McCollum Street removed a lot of private trees. There were no, they're Norris Spruce's. They were significant in size and, you know, it kind of caught everyone's attention. Um, a lot of folks who were involved on the faring street and sunset. Um, or concerned. Um, there's a lot of interest in that group to potentially. You know, work. You know, to help. Uh, with the significant tree. Um, Policy or ordinance or. Um, you know, some form of, uh, Way to monitor removal of private trees. You know, move into the slow time after planting season and maybe begin. Jumping back in on the, uh, significant tree ordinance for private trees. So. See where that goes. Um, I think that's about it for now. All right. Thanks. Oh, Treasurer's report, Sarah. Right. Um, the account balance is 18,950 and 89 cents, which reflects a number of, um, Transactions. Um, Okay. There's been. A donation in September. Um, And, uh, a number of different payments came out. So I think that we are up to date. It was the donation for $500. There was a donation for 500, but that was, I believe back in. July, there was also a $300 donation in September. Oh, well, we should find out who that came from so we can send a thank you. Yes. Uh, unfortunately that's all the information they have on the account record. So if anyone knows, let me know. Sarah, I just want to confirm that amount. 18,950 and 50 cents. 950 and 89 cents. 89. Thank you. That's great. I don't know who did the 300. The 500 was from our Hampshire village where we planted trees. Um, last, last year. So that replaces this check. I can rip up, which was made out to me personally instead of the town. Yeah, that's it. All right. Thanks. Let's move on to presentations and discussions. Can I jump in on that just for a second? Yeah. So I just want to make sure the committee's clear. If somebody makes a donation. And it gets sent to one of you for some reason. That needs to come to me. I need to, there's a process at DPW. To log that in. So that way we capture all the information who sent it and everything. If it just goes ends up going to the town hall, we can't track it. There's no guarantees going to get put in the tree planting fund. Well, this money apparently did go in the tree planting fund. It didn't come to me. Did it come to anyone else? They might have just mailed the donation to the town. They just mailed to the town, but it didn't get logged in. They just mailed the donation to the town. Through DPW itself. All right. Thank you. Whoever you were. All right. Town tree inventory. Anything new on that? No updates. Okay. Social media updates. Julian. Yeah. Yeah. For the Instagram. I posted something. I think we got two new followers this month. Right before our Woodside planting. For on the little story to remind people and other than that. We haven't had many updates. I think we got two new followers this month. Might be good if you posted our upcoming meeting also. Yeah, certainly. I did that today on Facebook, but Sean, if you could do that sooner on Facebook, it'd be great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Julian, you on Instagram. Yeah. Good. Okay. Okay. Tree tour. Ellen. Anything on that? Nope. All right. I'll start having a little more time after this week. So maybe beginning of next month, we should set a meeting date and talk about the flyer and. You know, the printed brochure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Last Saturday was really nice. The weather was great. Lots of neighborhood help. Britt got donuts for everybody. Which is a nice addition. And the big question is, should we do a November planting or a workday? Or is it getting too cold and late by then? Yeah. I mean, I think we'll just have to wait and see what the weather does. Well, we should be able to at least do a workday if not a planting. Oh yeah, definitely. If it's yeah. We'll wait and see what the weather does. And if it's too cold, we will. We'll do a workday. It's fine. Okay. So everyone plan on second Saturday. In November that will be out from nine to noon somewhere. Working on trees, taking care of them or planting new ones. Great. We should think about where those might be. We want to decide that now. Yeah. I mean, I. We started grinding some of the stumps on orchard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know we continue with orchard. We could try to do more on the column street. I would like to think that. By then the sidewalk project will be mostly done on the Klauen. So we could do either. Two good options. And if we do a workday. I'll think about that. Okay. All right. Well, just save the date and. We will do something in November. And then we should start thinking about places to plant trees next year. We start again in April. Okay. The history museum. Anything new on that? No update. Okay. So anything we need to be doing or just waiting to hear about the grant. No, the grant. We have all the information we need about the grant. It's just a matter of my. My. I need to use this term. My bandwidth right now to just try to take on that project. So I just need to get a few things, which I thought we would have done by now off my plate. So I can focus more on. The history museum. Because the grant was awarded so late, we do have until June of next year to. We do have until June of next year. So. We'll keep it on the agenda. North common Mary maple. Has there been any word from Paul or any news? I did receive news today from Paul. Officially. His. Decision has been to remove the Mary maple and the other two trees. And that we should try to do that. Before Thanksgiving. Do you have any questions or comments from people who have asked? I don't know the details. My understanding is that they are, they're coming up with a. Alternative. Event. For the Mary maple. I've been asked to reach out to all the people who had contacted us about. Getting pieces of the tree to make art. So we're going to get some of the tree. So. I need to put a list together. Contact those people. And get some country. We're going to use a contractors to take down the Mary maple. So we want to use a crane. So that we can. Dismantle the tree. Carefully. And larger pieces. Versus smaller. If we did it in-house. So that's, so. Great. Just joined the meeting. Sorry to interrupt Alan. Just wanted to let you know. Great. All right. I joined a little while ago, but I think it was as a, like a guest that wasn't. Able to do anything. So. Can we see you also? There she is. Let's see. Great. All right. I was going to say, so is that something. Publish size now on. Instagram and Facebook. And ask people if they want a piece of the wood. Yeah. I, I, you know, I'm having a meeting on Thursday to discuss how we want to. Publicize the. The process how. You know, you need to have control over. You know, You can't just have a bunch of trucks showing up to pick up wood and people with chainsaws trying to cut. Pieces of some air maple wood. We have to come up with a plan that's safe and fair and gives people a chance to. You know, maybe we. Need to come up with, you know, if you want a piece of Mary Maple, maybe we take some. Some of our staff time. You know, I think that people can take home. So I guess I'd like to wait until after I've had that meeting and can discuss how we want to officially advertise. Okay. I think it'd be cool if we could get like one giant round to like, maybe put some place special, you know, like polish it up and stick somewhere. Eventually. You use it at the Arbor Day table. Yeah. Yeah. I would, I would just add that I have been in kind of informal conversation with a couple of people. So I think all of you probably know that the, the hearing on the Mary Maple, the minutes from that were shared and written up in the. A couple of papers. Locally. And so one of the things that I had said about. You know, doing something to kind of commemorate the tree. I had a bunch of people reach out to me after that, including from the Chamber of Commerce, including a couple or at least one. Council person. And, you know, some of them have circled back. So I would be very interested in, in helping to put something together. To kind of commemorate the tree. And, you know, you know, Alan, if that comes up tomorrow, you can, you can say that I'm interested in helping out on that. That matters. That's great. Thank you. I can. Maybe we can merge our, our list of people who are interested and try to. Reach out to them all. Yeah. It sounds like there are a lot of conversations going on in parallel, but no like official conversation. Or maybe that's the official conversation. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about that. So. Perfect. Thank you. Yeah. So after this is. After you have that meeting, I think it'd be really good for us to. Publicize this on social media. It's another way to reach out to people. So wait for that. Town budget line item. No. I noted that the town put a significant. Amount of funding aside for like roads and another. Chunk for us the track. In a recent meeting. And Dorothy Pam, one of our town counselors suggested a shade tree line item at that meeting, but it didn't get any traction rather it got no response. All right. So it might be. Yeah. At some point in time for us to really push. Right. Letters the other right. You know, show up at council meetings and push for this. We'll pass on that for now. Old items. Connection with Stockbridge school. Anything happening there. I need to, I need to. Get on that. Yeah. I'll do that. North Hampton road. Shoshana, have you been following up and taking photos things? I'm totally doing that this week. Good. These things moving off the old ongoing items list. Yeah. Very trees. Sarah, are you working on that? Yes. No update. I can reach out to my contact on the library committee. If we would like to invite them to our next meeting. Okay. I, well, the update is Alan, after your comment when we looked at the plans about there being more trees removed than it looks like there were on the library committee, there was a lot of discrepancy. So they have in that one plan set, they have one plan that shows. Most trees being saved and on just a couple of removals. And then they have another plan in the same plan set that shows more being marked for removal. So. There's, there's an update somewhere that didn't get. Updated throughout the entire package. So that's a something to follow up on that. If I get any word on that prior to our meeting, I can send out an email. Otherwise we can just have a guest speaker at our next meeting. I'll try to arrange that for November. Thanks for looking into that. Yeah. You're welcome. All right. And I haven't seen anything in the news saying things are moving ahead. So that's my job is to let you know of that. All right. So I'm going to go through that. I'm going to go through that. I'm going to go through the website update. Well, Ben, it's not here. So probably nothing there. Complete street state level initiatives. That's what Julian and I are doing Thursday. With the mass tree wardens and foresters and. My meeting with Mindy Dawn was helpful. She's really great. She's really supportive. And it's offered to come meet with us. So. We'll let you know about having her come back for a meeting. And I'll reach out again to Joe coming for two. Yeah. So. Any significant tree ordinance. Any movement there. Alan, you did mention people were. Interested in that. Yeah, there's, well, there's, you know, they're seeing. In their neighborhood, they've seen a lot of, you know. Trees removed. And they're around private property and some of them were on public property. And they're, you know, they are referencing other communities that were on public property. And they're interested in, you know, Why doesn't Amherst have one? So. Should we invite them to our meeting next month? If you want to start picking that up and working on it. Wouldn't be a bad thing to do. That I was. Invited to attend a. Um, either one of their Sunday brunches or. Nightly. They have a meeting occasionally in the evening. Of the neighborhood. And then they have a Sunday brunch with the neighborhood. Once a. Once a month, it sounds like. And I offered to come and talk to that group about. You know, Amherst. Trees and urban forest. And they said. If you want to come to, please come and discuss. So I can. Move that up on my agenda. Make that conversation happen and then see if they're interested in. Helping. We're discussing the. Significant tree ordinance. Okay. Sorry, who, who is this group? I don't know what their official name is. It's a, it's a fairing street. Okay. Neighborhood group. They came out of all the removals that. Yeah, got it. Yeah. They've actually have a long history of having these. You know, once a month's Sunday brunches. We've been doing it for. Quite a long time. So it's a. Seems to be an organized group. Would you be interested in having. Committee members attend that at all. I mean, I wouldn't have any objections to that. I can ask them. I was thinking Sarah might be especially useful for you to go. Yeah, I'm, I'm happy to help. I. I would like to continue to work on that project. I just. I think it'd be best if I was partnered or if someone else is interested or if this group is interested. You know, if I have someone who's kind of keeping me accountable and giving me some deadlines and stuff. That's just going to be easier. And you know, someone that I can also. Share the load with a lot of the literature reviews, a lot of reading, and I just don't have as much time to devote to that these days as I did prior. So. Sarah, is it just a matter of trying to get a sense of what other communities are doing with significant tree ordinances? Yeah. I think it's very. Bare bones. And I think that one of the selling points. I mean, it's great to get the community involved, but one of the selling points in order to get it to pass. And it's. A piece of legislature is going to be. Having. A robust. Literature review, basically. And what other communities are doing. Right. And how it's working and how, you know, that sort of thing as well as obvious community support. So. I would be happy to help with that. Great. Okay. Yeah, just being, sharing some of that, that reading load and notes would be super helpful. So thanks a lot. Great. Yeah. So I'd like to see those connections made between. Britt and Sarah, you guys in the committee. Alan's talking about. Great. For. Newcomers. Right now we have laws that protect street trees. Trees within the public right of way, but trees on private property and backyards or people on the wood lot in town. We have no control over that. And because of the importance of trees in this day and age, particularly always, but certainly more so now. We're trying to see if we can create an ordinance that will protect the largest trees in Amherst. One's two or more feet in diameter. We haven't seen, we haven't finalized the number yet, but. And some towns have that. Consider part of the urban forest, the urban canopy and we want to protect those trees. So that's what that's about. Okay. Solar bylaw group Julian. Yeah, so, um, I went to their last meeting, which was actually a public hearing. Um, about their work and they were doing that with the ECAC. I brought up the idea of like neighborhood solar. That similar to what Alan and you were talking about. With. Having like one. Solar area that's distributed among a number of homes. And then one member asked like, how would it be funded, et cetera, but other than that, not much they're still in their process of drafting a bylaw. And that was their meeting to seek public input in that type of thing. Okay. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. You'll keep us posted on that. All right. Other other comments or other things we need to discuss. Okay. If not, I'll talk a little bit about the statewide issues I mentioned earlier. So if I don't have them right in front of me. Hold on. Well, this, uh, for those who don't know, there's a law that governs and protects shade trees in Massachusetts. It's called mass general law chapter 87. And this was a law that was passed 100 years ago. And it's still on the books. It says if you crash your horse and buggy into a tree and harm it, you have to pay. There's nothing in the law that says you crash a truck into it. So it's quite outdated. The fines are quite low. Requirements to be a tree warden in a town, every town in Massachusetts has to have a tree warden. But the requirements of the tree warden are very minimal. So we're trying to say, look. We're trying to get back to it. So we're trying to push that to happen now. One of the things we're trying to do. As Julian mentioned, you know, right now. People get great tax credits to cut down forests and put up solar farms. I mean, you put up a solar farm anywhere. It's a great tax credit. So that's one of the big statewide issues. And it almost passed right before COVID hit. And then the legislature went into a tailspin. And they didn't get back to it. So we're trying to push that to happen now. One of the things we're trying to do. As Julian mentioned, you know, right now. We're trying to push that to happen now. So we're trying to push that to happen now. So we're trying to push that to happen now. And that's a good thing. But if you're clearing, clear cutting forest to put up the solar farm, then that really we think defeats the purpose. So we're trying to get that law changed a little bit. Similarly, the, another issue is the complete streets program in Massachusetts. Which is a program that tries to get every street. Anytime you do a repair work on a street, if you want to get state funding, you have to put in bike lanes and. Places for bosses to pull off and things like that. So that's all great. But since we have very narrow streets. And trees are not mentioned in this law. It means every time you widen the street for that stuff, you're going to be cutting the trees down. And removing any chance of putting in new trees. So we're trying to get trees included in that. And then the fourth thing is a bill that came up and then went down, but it's still live. To create a funding mechanism for more trees in towns across the state. So. In order for those things to happen, we really need to be pushing, like I said, our state center and rep, Mindy Dom and Joe Cumberford are total supporters, but other parts of the state, they're not hearing from people. So we're trying to really push to get everyone. Everywhere to motivate it to pass this. The other thing I would note is that we are talking about that. At the tree worms and foresters conference this Thursday. On Thursday. So. Lots to do. In town things to do and statewide and nationwide and internationally. So. We do our part. We will all of you too. Okay. Henry, I just want to add that. It is that western mass tree wardens and forest association dinner meeting. It's not really a conference. And if anybody wants to attend it, it is. You know, five o'clock tomorrow, Thursday evening at the blue bonnet diner. And for, you know, 30 bucks or so, you get. Some good CE use and. A meal and you get to meet a bunch of other people working in the. Either as, you know, municipal tree care or private tree care. And the second presentation. Is the exciting topic of mass department of labor and safety. And what they do for. Making sure that municipalities follow all of OSHA's guidelines. So. Thrilling topic. I would maybe put out there that whoever is able to attend could kind of informally. Maybe find out which. Western mass towns have significant tree ordinances as a, as a good starting point for local comparison. I don't know if that's possible, but if it comes up in conversation and, and, or maybe Sarah, you've already figured out which, which local municipalities already have that. But anyway. Some, but nothing comprehensive. I don't think any in western mass have it. Possibly in Springfield, I don't know. Springfield. Springfield definitely does. It's very old. It's sort of antiquated. And then North Hampton has something. And again, it's more through the design review process. So it is only activated once you begin a project. It wouldn't stop somebody from just cutting down a bunch of trees. Or wouldn't be activated by some. Yeah. It's linked to their zoning board of appeals. Got it. Alan. What's the name of the dinner? The group. That's the western mass tree wardens and foresters association. So I'm a member of the mass tree wardens and foresters association. And we spoke six or seven years ago, we started a western mass chapter so that people out in western mass can have some continuing education. Opportunities. So I think it's a piece. So. It's been pretty successful. So. Thank you. All right. So, um, Gavin and Leana, do you have any. Questions or anything you would like to say. No. All right. Well, I wish you all great luck in your projects and please. Join us second Saturday in November. I'm going to put you on our list so you know what's happening with us. My email is well, the shade tree committee's shade tree. CMT. At gmail.com. So we send once a month newsletter blast out with what we're doing and what's happening. Yeah. Interesting tree news. All right. If there's nothing else, I will say we can close the meeting. All right. Thanks everybody. All right. Thanks everybody. Thank you. Thanks everyone. Thank you. Thanks.