 Love to welcome everybody but to the live stream here. It's a special live stream this evening thought I would take the normal script Off topic. We are unscripted here and raw and the beauty of social media is that we can bring people together and it was Proven to me in no short order this week as we wrapped up the ACT expo 2023 Hylian was front and center in the In the conference and it was what what an experience there I've got some insights from one of the patrons of the independent investor channel and From my sincerest host here in new york city. I want to thank mr. Ken Not going to use last names, but uh, he was gracious enough to fly down on his own dime just uh awesome way to express Really his gratitude back to the community And and to provide that give back to the community. So he was feeding me information I in turn was was feeding that information forward and I know andrius Who I've got featured here on the screen Was also doing a good job. I don't know man. It just felt right I know um common sense investing common sense with x caliber also posted a video today and talked about It probably being the most content that was pushed out by hylian Um, I I respectfully disagree. I thought it was the most content that was pushed out in a short amount of time Um in in a three-day session that I've seen in three years And I'm being real I go back a long long way to some of that original content that was pushed out by hylian and just as of late It's gotten a little bit lean With approaching the latter part of this year and You know making sure that the that the system is ready to go Now what ken was able to help me understand I just got off the phone with him and he was able to provide me and help me finalize some of the notes From the act expo and I know andrius was on the floor. I believe as well Was lucky enough to actually attend the expo. What a good one to attend Venue moved from long beach california over to anaheim. So not that far, but the venue was significantly bigger They were able to attract a Significant amount more people my understanding is doubled up On the size of the expo and and a right smack in the middle of it was hylian Our company that is looking to make big waves in the class 8 space if you're unfamiliar with The hylian opportunity I'd suggest that you pick over to hylian.com Just as of late this week some of the new announcements that were brought forward It surprised me Especially with the carno generator, okay Now there was some things that I picked up and we'll talk about those at length here during the live stream But andrius says good evening 2 a.m. Here for me to not be able to watch the entire stream. There's no problem. We'll hold it down brother. It's all good. You can catch it You know when it's more conducive for you to do so, but but I just want to thank you right at the top of the stream for your efforts It's kind of cool. It kind of speaks to what I really value about social media I'm not a social media guy I there's parts of me that don't like this okay However, when you talk about my passion through this project And specifically sharing and paying forward my insights contrary to what a lot of the Mainstream institutional investors the short selling attack that's going on right now I can kind of frame that in a way that people like me can understand it And for me this investing opportunity Is nothing short of just making straight up sense. This just makes sense for me now with that said there was a lot of excitement that came out of the act expo this year I think if nothing else statistics would suggest that we probably got to about 100 percent more people since the venue was twice as large as last year And that's a good thing Right now it is imperative for highly on to stay In the public line light and it's it's exposed like this that allow them to do just that Okay But I just wanted to thank andreas. He is the moderator over in the highly on discord group I would invite you to find your way there if you are not there. You are missing out and Right up at the top of the live stream here. I really want you guys to understand the whole idea here is information And it's information that's delivered in a way that you would have never received information before This is about as firsthand as you can possibly get if you were intimately following the story for the last Uh couple days at the first part of the week, then you would have been in tune almost real time It doesn't get any better than that Now with the information that we know Has already been released and has transpired over this week And this is only five days old We can talk about it. We can Really kind of glean for ourselves Whether or not highly honest walking in the right direction or not And there was a few things that were released Especially going from 75 percent applicability for their credit to the full 100 percent And there was a little bit of an undertone of cheering actually a little bit when Thomas Healy at the expo released that information to the smaller group that he was addressing at the time Where he decided to roll that out. I believe it was the actual carno Introduction during the first part of the act expo I thought that that was a Nominal piece of information If you just calculate the potential impact that that could make on the class 8 space qualifying For not 75 rather 100 percent of the credit That was previously set at 75 The optics of 100 alone Really when I tweeted out that it should have moved the stock even more now the stock moved fairly healthy this week I was marginally satisfied with the grumblings and the stock action no problem at all I bought some at the ultimate low And I did buy some just today actually in correction. I did share with the discord group earlier on this morning that it was boat Bring out another thousand, but it actually wasn't boat. It was only to the tune of 700 shares just today Brings the total share base to 17,500 shares give or take a little bit I'm a small fry. Okay I represent the work in class which actually consumed 99 of my week this week While catching updates just enough to actually glance at my phone and seeing the status reports that kin Was so graciously sending to me and then on the fly actually pushing that forward to the discord group What does all that mean? Okay, there's going to be bears of of highly on that would suggest that It changes nothing. Okay It they would suggest that They are still on the same hook that they were a week ago to produce sales Okay, I would actually agree with that sentiment, but I'm over This idea that we have to make expectations of this company prematurely Before they can organically have a chance to materialize. Here's what I mean by that I was actually extremely Encouraged by the rollout of the carno Concept erx at the trade show at the expo That surprised me The last I had heard was on the last quarterly report where john pancer spoke about close to a 90 million dollar infusion 90 Million dollar infusion to bring the carno up to a commercial state. That's how much r&d they're looking to push into the carno project And get that up to a commercial state. I did not expect to see that at the expo I did not to see That sharp of an iteration of the carno erx Nor did I expect to see that the carno erx actually operating under its own power Which is what I saw at the end of the expo When the carno erx was actually departing the venue All things considered I considered to considered it to be an absolute home run for halyan Some of the pickups and I was intimately trying to extrapolate what I was getting from the folks that were actually on the floor at the conference itself Some of the feedback that we actually got and by name Mr. Josh mook was actually identified as being really one of the most helpful I guess he's the lead engineer On the carno project and what a fantastic guy that multiple people told me that So josh shot out on behalf of the channel and the greater halyan community. You've probably got I don't know a couple hundred thousand shares represented in this halyan community here Shot out to you josh because My understanding is that you were super helpful super excited to be part of this Startup opportunity and it is it's in the startup phase. There's no doubt about that I would say that a lot of their products are so far along their product And proof of concept line that I would even suggest that You know the renewable the rng erx that is supposed to come to commercial is done It's ready for otr. It's ready to rock and roll guys. Okay now If they never sell another unit and this company cannot materialize and the erx falls on its face Then this will all be for naught I step back and I look at the interaction of the ceo Who can actually spoke with on multiple occasions? Super down-to-earth guy Not a typical ceo. I'm sharing with you the insights that he provided to me On thomas heli's demeanor, of course being younger than a lot of the ceos out there With a lot of time to actually kind of see this thing through and and and navigate highly on smartly Down this down this road to a potential commercialization And we talked a little bit about the stock price a little bit being so recessed under short attack right now et cetera et cetera I'm I'm so far beyond that right now because I continue to monitor the stock and unless he's the most naive person in the entire universe To realize that it's inevitably go to nothing because they're not going to sell anything It seems like an awful lot of lipstick to be putting on to go to a party and not have anybody show up for the party This really seems to have garnered a ton of interest At this at this a ct-expo not to suggest that that interest wasn't being garnered and that highly on isn't strategically Preparing their sales team, which I didn't understand was strategically placed all over the country Ready to deploy their sales plan when they do and get to their final stages of Finalizing the certification for the the hyper truck yorex Which should be forthcoming anytime soon I understand that the difficulties in getting this um Be getting the hyper truck yorex certified Running off of renewable natural gas right is a little bit more tricky than going all EV. It's very very simple When you're not producing any type of um any type of knocks or or socks That have to be measured to understand that we are in fact stepping in a direction that we're satisfied with Okay But overall very very positive when the carno was unveiled basically it was kind of like the Announcement forum for the carno and what ken told me a lot of the floor Discussion and scuttlebutt around the highly on exhibit Was actually centered a lot around the carno generator Okay, now for me I caught wind when sherry and thomas both Introduced the idea of stationary power Okay But it really came to the forefront as a real viable solution not even down the line But actually right now When the carno becomes available to provide It's it's kilowatt of electricity at seven cents comparatively speaking significantly higher than that If you think about that for just a moment guys, it really takes highly on on an alternative vertical And for me i'm stuck in a little bit of a situation have we created at least a two or three headed monster? I didn't hear one mention whatsoever and I could be wrong During the actual act expo Mention of hyzon one time. I didn't hear one thing. I could be wrong on this um, I could be Um, not hearing the right things. I'm certain that they probably talked or maybe even at most went out to dinner But I thought you know for something that was such a big announcement on the last quarterly call I thought you know what gives with the potential for The actual third part of this story the third vertical in their product suite In the hydrogen fuel cell iteration in collaboration with hyzon motors, okay Equally as interesting with the focus on the carno and the introduction of the carno erx Was the lack of mention of the hybrid ex one Okay Now this is just my summary and synopsis for everybody who was either there or picking up information I was a little bit more active. I'm not so active in the discord group But I shot out again to the discord group. It was cool. It seemed like the guys and gals in there appreciated the information I would have and that's the whole idea here is transparency I thought if there was something that was said either to the upside or the downside I want to know about it. I want to understand what's going on with the latest and greatest On this specific company and there's no better out there than silent alert. Just making that happen It's just you know, these these guys are doing a great job. There's a lot out there, you know Investing the common sense with x caliber It's kind of one of my new favorites. He's got a hell of a calm demeanor about him Makes me kind of Take a little bit of solace and understanding that there's other opinions out there That differ from mine, but are of the same mindset to really Engage in A position of interest in the story Can they make it do they have the pedigree to enter into? over the road transfer Transfer of of goods in over the road Transportation in the class 8 space Want to share with you guys during the ride and drive can Who was down there kind of feeding me information? He talked about the driver's response to Giving the top three things that they found Was of interest in the ride and drive situation now he went on two separate ones He conveyed to me a feeling of Real natural application in other words, there was nothing for show Thomas Healy talks about this being a tool a tool to be utilized and to impact The the the class 8 space in all the right places and not in the wrong places In other words, it didn't feel clunky. There weren't bells and whistles It felt like a class 8 semi truck and ken really wanted me to express that to the group In that when he asked the driver what the top three things are here's what was shared reliability torque And regenerative braking Now the first one surprised me. I was like ken. Are you sure that's what he said reliability That's really surprising to me this early on in the game, which is my number one concern with highly on I passed A question actually along to silent alert with his connections in his network I'm talking about the potential for the battery thermal runaway And how much rigor the the the batteries themselves have been put under And the coupling with the battery management system that they have patent sober with highly on I was curious to know what type of rigor because I know there's a couple of industries right now That are juggling these questions right now and and it's serious if you've ever seen a battery Hedge on fire. It's some scary shit Okay, and my question was more kind of angled around the driver safety type of of of perspective As well as the differing criteria That the over the road regulators were looking to put the Hypertruck erx under Specific to their battery and their ability of their battery management system to perform over the long term So when we got that response of reliability, I was a little bit surprised by that. I was really a bit Pleasantly surprised. I wasn't sure if they were, you know, putting a little bit of a smoke screen out there to tell us what we wanted to hear But I was actually very pleasantly surprised to actually hear that report come back. It was very good. So reliability Torque and regenerative braking from the driver's perspective. They're not sitting there having to throttle the brakes You know over and over again To have to um to work the the tractor to make it slow down. He said that the regenerative braking was absolutely fantastic but Really some cool insights guys. I got a ton more Of the insights from the ACT 2023 expo Really appreciate you guys I'm going to drop another VIP these invites that I'm actually posting here Um are actually meant for you guys. All right, so I'm going to do an intro here Um, and we will be back with you in just a moment, but I'm dropping it in the bottom of the chat There it is right there And you guys are welcome. Um, we are going to be doing an extended Highly on live stream tonight devoted specifically to the topic at hand There's no better topic. Um, I see you there brother get dialed in man. You're going to be coming on here in just a moment Um, but we got silent alert in the Q man for the first time on the independent investor channel I'm super stoked. You know, I had to temper my excitement a little bit. I always try to Approach this with a neutral perspective. Okay It's it's um, it's been a tough ride for the last couple of years And I tell you what to grasp at straws or call it what you will To get a little bit of positive momentum on the on the company And the stock a little bit but more so with the company was actually pretty refreshing this year So aside from that, I thought I would throw down on this live stream and actually kind of celebrate that little bit of of momentum The announcements that were forthcoming And so I want to open up the floor to each and every one of you guys don't hesitate man Come in say hi. Uh, have a drink with the independent investor channel be back in just a moment I was like a kid in a candy store when I saw that man. It's the it's the little things Um, I I'm convinced on this project. I've been convinced for a long long time There's been ups and downs on owning highly on stock There's been ups and downs in the evolution of this um, and I think I was talking to kin this evening and we kind of discussed maybe the long term potential for for highly on I think this is going to be a long term project I think for me in the short to medium term even more toward the short term Would be to get the stock up to a position of a little more string five six eight box Get it back up to its ipo price 10 12 box And then we'll we'll start to reassess and I I think we're probably staring down a catalyst That's actually going to allow that to happen All right But ton to unpack tonight. We've got a ton of visitors in here I think there's probably going to be a lot of people that are going to make their way into the gallery But I want to kick off tonight's live stream by having Really one of the top guys who cover highly on i'm super stoked to have him on the channel Silent alert you're ready to go man. I'll invite you on the channel fantastic man Yeah, it's good man. How are you? Good man. Good trying to work out the staff. Hopefully you can hear me good now. Yeah, I got you fine man loud and clear So what were your thoughts? What do you think this week has meant for highly on you think we picked up any momentum? Just give give your thoughts on what you thought I think the biggest thing that you can notice was with thomas taley He's energy if you remember a year ago, which I feel work to rewatch his videos a year ago If you want just to see how he was saying oh bb's there is room for everybody He was playing a mr. Nice guy with everybody today or whatever yesterday or two days ago. He delivered a punch He was practically saying oh, there's no room for anybody. There is no room for bb You need to charge or well this how much he's gonna cost you Well, this is the mileage he really delivered a knockout punch which all the fleets And everybody needed the gear right and that's what he that's the backbone when we need from a ceo Is when you know you have something and you deliver a punch in the beginning I think he wasn't sure where his company was going. He obviously had a vision But was everything where all the dominoes lined up probably not but he was working towards it I think now he has all the dominoes lined up and he's confident to deliver that message And to me that energy really speaks of all it right? I mean erx great product karno great product But I truly invest into Thomas because that's his vision and that was for me this whole acp expo It's just that transition from a year ago to now is massive That's incredible. So you You speak about the pulse of what was going on the floor ken told me the exact same He was like look Thomas was out there talking to one person after another boom boom boom one after another That type of energy i'm getting a little bit of feedback on your end. Can you check the volume on your computer? My brother, I think it's when I talk so i'm trying to keep it to a minimum You might have to silence youtube that's usually what I have to do is mute it You might be getting a little bit of feedback through your browsers. That's perfect Now i'm getting nothing. That's perfect Awesome you got me Oh man, I don't want to lose this guy. I don't want to lose him. Oh man There we go. Now I got you Yeah, hopefully hopefully No, I think you're uh when you talk it's good when I talk there's a little bit of feedback coming through Usually when I mute youtube I usually I'm doing browsers So I have to mute one of the browsers to actually make it through but I will get your thoughts on Over the last three years, man You've been covering this company pretty intimately and I wanted to thank you personally for doing it It's meant a lot to me And if it's meant a lot to me, I guarantee it's meant a lot to a lot of people I only have my opinions and sometimes they're a little bit scathing Sometimes they're very very appreciative and and and complimentary to a company, but But If I look at this company over the last three years, man, and then I look at that carno unveil this week I was thinking to myself. What an unbelievably fast progress that this company has Proven to be there demonstrating a workable carno product You know And and to think back just a couple of years where what we were talking about, you know with the battery management system and You know fortifying their, you know, all of their patents and you know Looking at a hyper truck erx that at the time was more conceptual now We're at the final stages of commercialization at the end of this year. So Are you satisfied with the progress you talked about your insistence on thomas mealy and You know ken said look, he's a super young guy. He's not a typical CEO. He's very personable He's easy to talk to So I think you're right on the money there, but give us the pulse of where you Where you're where you're Where your comfort lies with the progress of this company over the last couple of years and where we are now Yeah, I think well, obviously erx is is a story that's going to be told that we just need certification to move along And I think we have we beat the horse. We know what the erx is going to deliver and The clients is going to have but I truly think is What like we have a carnal semi truck, right? And why is it that during the presentation? There was not even a mention about the carnal semi I think the true story that's going to arrive that's going to step up with highly on is going to be carnal stationary power Like I said, I have a thin hat full theory that I think is the same way That thomas hilly had a great vision and he wanted to bring highly on up front as a semi was partner repeatable I truly think there is works in the background happening That once thomas hilly proves that carnal stationary generator is fully efficient Which means we need at least 12 months for 18 months of testing 24 7 to make sure it works completely works There might be some partnership with one of the big energy companies providers What not to partner because thomas hilly is all about partnership He partners repeatability partners with hyzon. He partners with whoever was in future He makes a core product and he partners to have it branched out licensed that out to whatever So I truly think carnal semi is there to please To please institutions to please whoever needs to please. I don't think the the unit is not ready yet erx is going to be out there for next five 10 years, right until a ship to hydrogen happens And it's more efficient as we all know, but I think stationary power is Extremely critical because we're going to have BEVs. We're not going to deny them They're going to be all all over the place from amazon's to whatever you want from I mean even over here in canada We have so many food chains that deliver all my grocery stores to your house They're all looking to expand to be these the logo lower the carbon footprint at their Mile and they'll talk about a hundred mile radius and I want to order 15 20 be these we're we're gonna charge them, right? So I truly think thomas hilly needs to commercialize or create a prototype of a carnal where you can commercialize it And then you know god willing in the future. We can partner with one of the Uh providers of either let's say chevron chevron has been extremely connected to hyzon Yep One of the major distributors or providers to partner with to commercialize this in a commercial sector not residential I mean I don't know but the commercial sector because I know here in canada You're not allowed to temper with your water with your gas everything has to be done through a provider So and you as someone soon is the same thing. So once you have a Product that works, right? You may maybe you can create a buffer between your property line and your commercial zone When you install a carnal and now you're not Now you're getting savings. You're off the grid. So you're easing off the grid. So I truly think that Stationing power Is the next big move past erx not not carnal semi not yet So you foresee us fulfilling these 210 or 220 that we're setting on right now Of course making no making no profit on those just to get those into the rigor of the fleet And then continuing that r&d on the car note to get that to a commercial state. That's that's fascinating I've had the same thoughts actually and I think this might be the vertical that probably takes the lead position Because the political push man, correct me if i'm wrong I just feel like there's such a cross current right now with politically Everybody driving to be ev and not knowing why they are You know what I mean? And I want you to comment on thomas heli's delivery on the five misconceptions about the eb If you'd be so kind I know you've probably got an opinion about how cool that is and I've got a chaos in the group here is waiting to come into the studio Yeah, I'll keep it short. No those five points are just just perfect punches I mean it is reality that thomas heli is definitely very from the fleets From the clients from everybody, right? So he just delivered those punches Why do you want to test the bev for anything than a short haul? Because those are the hurdles you're going to face and why do you want to adopt More than five bev's because you're going to have to face major upgrades in the grid depending where you are, right? So he's just giving a dose of reality With a sidekick. Hey, you know what if you want long range We have something if you want short range We have something in the works that can charge your short range, right? So you really have to read between the lines I think smart people in the room are there to realize that halan is onto something and we need to pay attention And I think the to me the speed of everything is is was gonna It was going to give success to highly done, right? How much money they're going to spend Say hi What's going on little man? How are you? How are you? My little boy's the same age as you man. Yeah Yeah, we got some The speed is what's gonna matter with highly on right how much money they have how much they can put into r&d How much they can commercialize this and I think only through partnerships is what they can actually achieve Right, so I mean that's my take. I mean those five keys Definitely it was a perfect punch. It was a knockout if you're a smart guy if you want to flee if you understand if you're An investor you understand if you're nobody and you're just there to look at the show You kind of get the idea, right? So yeah, yeah I appreciate those insights brother man that that's that's exactly what I took out of it He actually said look one of the guys was actually laughed out of the room When they went to the utility district and actually proposed to say look I want to try to move in this direction And the utility was like we've never even had anything close to this proposal Even if it was possible, we've never even entertained this much kill a lot output for what you're even proposing And I think it was a reasonable proposal. I think it was like 10 drugs or something So I'll give you just to close out. I'll give you a perfect example So we're kind of construction industry and we're we're doing one of the parking lots aside from a major project And we have to allocate five ev charging spots for just vehicles So the township was all adamant about okay, let's get one of those fast ev chargers Well, the grid said no, you can't I mean even for ev cars. Sure. I mean, sorry Yes, we can but it's going to cost you an extra amount of dollars to upgrade with a transformer to charge Or you can have one slow charger within your budget So you either have one slow charger for just a regular passenger vehicle Or you can have or or sorry, uh, you can have five slow chargers Or you can have five fast chargers, which will cost you x amount of money, which is beyond beyond the like I can't disclose the amount, but I'm talking about 20 times the cost for what it would have cost All right, so we just and this is just passenger vehicles So we live in the industry that actually I had a chance to even look at the kilowatts and and just in a nitty-gritty To look at where actually you have to go to upgrade your grid. It's not that simple It's not just let's go to this post or next intersection. No, my brother You got to go all the way where the voltage is going to allow you to upgrade, right? Sure in some cases it might be 100 meters or 500 meters in some case it might it might be five kilometers, right Incredible take this opportunity to welcome Excalibur to the show here I've got another guest that's actually chaos. You're on your silent man, but I've got you on the live stream as well Give Excalibur the floor here. Thanks for the upload today, my friend Thanks for all the work. It's awesome. Take it easy, man All right, so what are we what are we looking at man? What was your what was your impression of the ac tx? I don't want to jade your opinion man. I know you're a man of of independent thought which is What why why I love you man? I I think there's um I think there was some real momentum generated Whether or not it materializes materializes into anything really is I kind of kicked it off at the top of the live stream It felt kind of good to have some good momentum It kind of showed what how hungry and how thirsty the market was for that information I thought it was well received I thought highly on did a wonderful job and I disagreed with you at the top of my live stream today I said you you had said that you had thought it was The most information that had come out in the quarter And I said hell I thought it was the most information that had come out rapid fire that I had seen Now may it maybe it had been a while, you know, but what was your thoughts brother? I thought this is by far the best expo that I've seen personally The one thing I looked at from What what kin was putting out was and everybody else that was there I was I was watching the crowd and I was looking at the seats And I felt like in past act exposed and looked in the background you saw There's a sparse crowd, you know, there was it was a select a niche sort of crowd that was there to see the What Holly had to offer But from everything that kin and everybody else that was there that they were putting in Or putting up the Seats were like cool Everybody was there to see the car now All the you didn't see any of the specialists of The salesmen engineers you didn't see the of them is standing around. They were actually engaged talking I think in the latest video Posted by helium Thomas had to actually get the attention Of one of the engineers to bring him over to to give more insight on the car now, you know Yeah, I think that was that was real telling for me the The car looked nice. That was that was one one sexy truck. I said it before this this morning But I did feel like the car now kind of overshadowed the erx Yeah, you know they It mentioned the right and drives that were kind of like in the back of the building that they're doing For the car knows right here. Um, I've always been a big fan of the car now as far as the The applications and potential of it. Yeah, um, it really it's What can save the bev space for tesla No, the nicola tray any of any of the pack ours the they do the short haul Yeah, my video today. I did on the drage A community they the drage community to pick up from the ports they drive like a hundred miles to Distribution places. That's right With a bev. They can only make a couple of trips It in there have to charge for what 10 hours some cases like that that's not going to be um, that's not going to be Able to see we're not going to be able to scale that because you'll need multiple semis to Take over for when they're charging To take over their routes just so they can keep things moving and keep logistics going Um, you think about your next day shipping. Yeah, who doesn't like next day shipping amazon Amazon sell this whole prime subscriptions on the next day shipping option They guard that with their lives. That's less a big part of their business. They're not willing to give that up And they're not going to give that up for bevs because a bev is charging They're going to want that next day shipping and keep that accessibility to those Clients and businesses that need the overnight shipping as well for real for real stay on with me man I got chaos and man. I want to get as many opinions as I possibly can I've always rolled this show out and especially with the highly and I feel like the highly on thing is a lot bigger than Any one individual so, you know, I want to thank you ex caliber for putting out just killer information I know we just had silent and andrius on and again, man Another opportunity to footstomp the discord group It feels right to help push that forward because if you are not part of that community You're kind of missing out on on Being able to bounce different ideas off of a lot of investors from all over the world But good evening to chaos. It's great to have you on my friend. What'd you think of the expo? Give me give me a little intro man. I've uh, please introduce yourself and let us know Maybe where you're hailing from and what this highly on thing means to you Hey guys, uh, my name is Kevin. I live in Atlanta, Georgia actually latonia, Georgia So uh, didn't get to go to the expo today, but you know, it's kind of cheating the day at work You know trying to pull out any information. I could um online if anybody was Broadcasting or join any information and dude, uh, I got kind of excited when I finally saw the first one and thomas is talking about You know the carno, um, I mean, I've heard about it before and You know, I'm not, you know, big time like you guys and you guys are really deep into and I appreciate the information you put out for Uh a retail guy like me, you know, I've been sort of On the holly on kick for a while now and um, you know, I'm an engineer by trade and you know When I first saw thomas healing his story and looking at the old videos of him, you know back, uh, You know in college when this was a grad school project Uh, man, I mean it it was it was exciting then, you know, just to sort of see that a young guy was thinking forward like that and Uh, you know really uh bringing it to this point today Um, you know, I've always believed in the truck. I know there's a market for it Um, you know, I'm not the kind of guy, you know who Uh, there's a huge market out there and you know He um, uh Hylian doesn't have to have the entire market. They're not going to get the entire market. There's a ton of other Um, uh competitors out there and and there's going to be, you know, something for everybody Um, you know me being here in in in georgia and you know, you see the trucks out there, you know spewing the The dirty, you know city And especially when you get behind one of those trucks, man, you think it's got to be a better way And all of these options out there, you know, be it, you know, Hylian be it nicola be it You know, whoever everybody's got a solution and everybody can bring something to the party So I appreciate everybody in the forward thinking and and trying to move forward, you know With this with these technologies and getting off the dirty, you know city exhaust coming out of these trucks. So, um, you know, once again, I appreciate you guys, you know Sharing information with me and I look forward to, you know, your sunday Um, um evening, you know discussions and ramp, you know, my wife she's uh, she's pretty funny because, you know, she'll come in And she'll see you talking is like Is that that ryan guy again? And yeah, that's right. He's he's giving the knowledge. So, uh, you're you're you're famous with her Because you know, uh, you know, you're uh your discussions go on for Uh 60 minutes or so and I'm sitting there, you know, listening to you know, 60 minutes and you know, it's all great information and really it gives Um, you know folks like us out there, um, you know, a real belief in the product So I appreciate you guys for what you do and and the show Uh, whenever, you know, I got a chance to watch it, you know, today, whatever, you know, ryan talked about and I saw, um Oh, I forgot the other guy's name, but he's been doing a a lot of stuff He's there locally and you know, he talks about it a lot and and I've seen a lot of bashers out there, you know, and Um, yeah, I don't know what their real motive is, but You know, there's there's room at the table for everybody. So, uh, I appreciate you guys for what you do and and inform in the public like me I appreciate you. Um I'm humbled man. Um Yeah, I uh I've been in in in financial markets my whole life And I think one thing that's really, um stuck out to me is the fact that by Not being provided Opportunity to information. Okay, obviously people have to internalize the information how they're going to internalize it Make decisions based on their best extrapolation of the information Maybe you invest in a company. Maybe you'd know I think we're evolving to a new place where This isn't meant to hype a story. It's just meant to inform on a story I truly believe that the world is better with a highly unsolution Hell to be honest with you with all of my Screwed me over a nicola product and and a tesla product, etc, etc I think that the learnings from those advancements will make for a better tomorrow, right? I've got two kids myself right when I when I Look at this highly unopportunity exclusively It's a really really easy company to invest in it really is and that's in the face of what has been A horrendous stock run horrendous Um, if nothing else it's passed along some knowledge to understand that there is a difference between a company and a stock As cliche as that sounds um, I talked to people kevin every single day That don't know the first thing about wealth building or or stock market or or even understanding it in so far as looking at it just Put aside the word investing for a second and just consider yourself a participant And and i'm not saying that by investing in highly on Your you're you're doing investing the right way. Okay highly on is its own niche of investing people really need to understand That speculation is not that far away when you're talking about a company like this that Yeah, it's generating some revenue, but it's a far cry from getting that You know capex and op-ex covered. Okay But let people make that decision. I think for many many years in my monitoring the market. I think the People that are wrapped up and working day-to-day jobs. You had mentioned you're an engineer. I'm doing the same, right? I'm a military guy have been for 18 years I'm busy. I'm busy and so by being busy. I can't always be in tune with information And for me the social media opportunity Um allows us to kind of pay forward That information now. What is it meant for us thus far? It's meant that we're sitting on a stock that's digressed to a dollar 60 I think it's really really oversold I think the games that are being played right now are going to be played in a different capacity because where I think short sellers have been able to truly wage financial War on names like this I wouldn't underestimate this highly on community. I really wouldn't And When this whole thing plays out Perhaps maybe there's a slight squeeze. Maybe there's a little bit of momentum from the expo Maybe maybe we fall back to the low ones, which I think is almost laughable for a company like this with the amount of cash that it has But to put into box this opportunity in the speculative category and then to understand that there's A lot of different capacities that people follow through in their investing career, whether it be a 401k Whether it be going after those dividends Whether it be going after that 8 to 10 percent year over year rate of return And seeking that compounding and protecting like that like it's sacred If if we can get more people A breast of that opportunity Then you're going to have more people out there that really get that That question answered for themselves. Look, we know what happens if you don't take a chance in life But the scarier question is what can happen if you do actually take a chance in life Um, I've stumbled and fell on my face many many times guys many many times There's no way in hell and I I openly admit this to the channel that I should be sitting on the net worth that I'm sitting on But I am and and I can attribute it to two things my career number one And number two investing in the stock market those two things right there And if you do it correctly, it can be awful liberating for a lot of people out there for sure Ex caliber. Did you want to comment then? Yeah, actually, um, I have a friend that I just had this very conversation with He's he watches your social. He's probably he knows what I'm talking about. So I'm gonna say his name But um, he was asking me about a quick way to make money in the stock market And I'm saying I told him that that's the way people often lose money in the stock market. That's that that's the hat trick um, you want to Do what most won't which is hold be patient Warren Buffett said the stock market is a vessel from transferring money to the inpatient to the patient And I tried to beat that into his head to let him know that The very thing you're trying to do is the very reason people lose money and they lose their tolerance from the stock market Um, what you say was it's absolutely correct. Um, be able to be in a position to Have a steady income and be able to invest that income sort to point to where it makes you money um My I thought I often joke to my my friends. I don't have dollars. I have employees You know, I need to need to get out there and make me some money because that's the that's how I plan on Achieve in the wealth that I want to see in my lifetime Hey, Robert Hey, how's it going guys? Well, I want to take this opportunity and formally Um, invite a friend of mine welcome them to the live stream for the first time Um, roberts in the house man. He runs investing in entrepreneurship. It's awesome freaking channel They kick over and help this guy Um, I've been doing youtube for a while and I've always been open man to helping anybody with their with their projects Um, my my project is mine, but I tell you what collectively we can be pretty powerful robert Floor is yours my brother man. Tell us what you uh, you were there at the expo So it's a hell of a treat to have you on board here and get your first hand insights on what you saw there, brother floor is yours Thank you ryan. I appreciate it. You know first off I really want to say thank you to all of you guys and that I love you all, you know it was uh Through finding your guys's channels that uh, I actually got motivated and said, you know what? I'm gonna start talking about highly on too because we got something cool going on Which is a community and I don't see a lot of companies out there That have this, you know, this is just in the margin. It's extra from investing and uh You know, I think we all know that with highly on we are winners, you know We not only have the conviction and hype on it, but we're well informed And that's what makes this beautiful And I I don't want to take too much time up, but I do want to share a couple strong points That came to me from being at the act And more than anything from actually talking to the highly on team and I got to talk To almost all the engineers that have been working on carnal And these guys been there since g e so I picked up on a lot of information on the carnal a lot of why's and a lot of What's For example, yeah, the carnal it can be used in so many different applications As a matter of fact when I was there talking to one of the guys Some other people that were there at the act expo that have to do with uh The waste companies, you know, a lot of these they're here in california. They're semi public companies Because you know, there are partnerships between private investment and Government but the waste companies that incinerate the trash So they learned about the car and they're like, hey, we have the heat We're already burning this trash. So how can we use the carnal technology to use our heat to generate electricity? So one of the engineers there was telling me, yeah, you know what this carnal I mean Basically, it's not like they developed carnal to Like they sat around and figured out the next big Best solution. So the way carnal came about is that g e developed these printers to print parts And g e had to start divesting, you know for for their own survival So they started looking around what can we print With these printers to sell our printers. So the guys, you know, having all this experience They came up with the carnal, but then it was just there. They didn't know what to do with it And right about the right time tom is approached them and uh, the partnership came about right but basically carnal It could be used in so many different ways that Yeah, you know, they could uh They could uh re-engineer it to use it for these waste Companies that are incinerating the trash And that's just one more application Now some of these guys yesterday somebody asked me like what's the next biggest catalyst for the stock to take off And I honestly would say it's time There's nothing that highly I can do right now or that I should do To try to really get this to take off because it's a play based on time What I really think is going to happen is that when the time hits All the engines are going to fire off the carnal is going to come in and boost The erx is going to come in and boost The ex is going to come in and boost and not only that but All the players that now need to adopt the solutions because they're against the wall by the government regulations They're also going to come in and say we need it now. We will throw extra money in Just so we can get it faster. So I think it's just all going to coalesce Somewhere maybe 2024 and it's just going to be skyrocketing And now this is a thing that I want to share too that in my view highly on Is the most well-positioned company to win without having adverse consequences of themselves meaning that Wow You know as companies take hits highly on stocks going to take a hit it's going to cause it to go down But highly on itself is not going to Inflict the pain on itself like like nicola for example or or other companies And another thing that I want to say that I actually got really excited about and I got happy too Because like my man says, you know, there's a lot of trolls and I already discovered something else I think some of these trolls are hired by nicola nicola's paying them because they're everywhere and they always respond and they respond so fast Like you have to be paid for it. You know, you're not just there as a hobby stuck You know watching every little thing to come out but Everybody has their own electric solutions international which is owned by Volkswagen Mac trucks which is now owned by Volvo And basically everybody out there. They have their own ed and most of these Are pushing close to 500. So they're beating nicola already What nobody has is what highly on what the hyper truck has so many iterations Now lastly before I take over too much time I do want to say something about the ex that I think we all are wondering why not so many sales And I learned something that's important So the ex is not like you could just bring any truck and say Here give me the ex solution Actually, there's a lot of programming that goes into each Ex that has to do with the needs that that fleet has so it the terrain The route that they have it matters because see the ex I thought that the ex was charged by the diesel engine You know somehow the revolution's being captured to generate electricity, right? Yeah, the ex is only charged through the regenerative braking. So it has to have the right Uh road the right Interesting Yeah, they're basically calibration for the route that that's intended to go on interesting the right route If there's no mountains where it could actually regenerate and capture all that electricity Is not going to help much the other thing too is that it's only boosting the power Of the diesel or the power of the natural gas solution So it the ex is not going to be a fit for everybody most fleets are going to be better off Just waiting and buying the erx's Then converting some other Other existing trucks. So that's another reason why the ex sales are low, you know, I I was totally lost I thought it's like I was like how come they're converting everybody, but it's just it doesn't make sense to go after everybody Yeah, that's that's pretty awesome. I I'd like to I don't want to bring uh chaos on and put him on the spot But you know, Kevin you did mention man, you are an engineer and I I'd kind of like your input on What it is that you're seeing actually What excites you, you know, we've we've We've actually built out this product portfolio fairly quickly I don't think we give enough credence to highly on for bringing What we have now, I mean best five verticals and and I don't know how much discussion about hyzon Happened at the ACT expo with regard to their collaboration and the high hydrogen fuel cell It seemed like everything was pretty pretty much Pretty much carno at least that was the the the sense that I got But I would certainly love to have your insights from an engineering perspective And this was along the lines of my question with regard to the potential for thermal runaway on the battery system How good is this battery management system? I mean, you know, we all sit back and we expect that highly on is going to be riding off to the sun here with this technology Can you comment from an engineer's perspective about what you see what you see them doing with regard to their proof of concept What excites you and maybe what maybe gives you pause and maybe even a little bit of concern. Okay Well, I'll tell you the The hyzon product I really think that that's it's still a possibility for that to take off You know, maybe, you know with the carno thing really Coming on today with, you know, so many options Uh, I mean when I heard the standalone sort of Power generation from that unit. I mean, I I was at work today and I'm sitting there thinking You know my building, you know, we need a backup generator Because, you know, you know, they have the, you know, typical caterpillar Generators, you know at other facilities around and you know, these are big behemoth units That that's powering, you know our wastewater plant and our water plants here and we have larger units that you know Back up our buildings. Well, you know, when when I heard today that, you know, one of the Carnot generators, you know generates I think I heard 50 kw A power It's like man, you know, that's that's pretty cool. You know for for something that's small Um, and and it's you know, uh, it can be used by gas Which you know, I can run gas to my building and and have that natural gas I mean, uh, I can have that run to my building And uh have that as a backup generator source Uh running just about anything, you know, we got diesel there, you know, it can burn diesel You know, I got natural gas that we can run to our building and you know for something that small And be able to use I mean the the the uses are to me limitless Um, and and that really excited me today is to really hear that there's an option You know out there to even branch off and do stand alone power and Um, you know, give give old caterpillar running for its money or or Oh, man, or you know, you think about all these folks in, uh RVs, um, you know, can't can just be using RV, you know, can you scale it down and Make it smaller for RV. It's just so many uses out there For this Carnot You know, you think about the highs on I mean, it's still the future, you know, they're still thinking about Um hydrogen uh to to be used in the future. So, uh, maybe, you know, they sort of put that to the side because This whole Carnot thing because it can burn anything Um, you know, maybe they say well, we'll take a step with that right now, but you know out here in Georgia, you know I don't know any hydrogen facilities out here and and We barely even have electric vehicles out here. I'll say I'll say it that way, you know We can't get a Toyota RAV4 for sale out here. You know, I gotta go all the way to You know up to up to the northeast to try to find a Toyota RAV4 prime if I wanted to even get a um, you know, um A plug-in hybrid vehicle. We're just not there yet down here and and and that's a good amount of the southern states, you know Uh, California, New York, you know, uh, you know, the various states, you know They are they are pushing and they're leading the pack on all this and you know, maybe 10 15 20 years Maybe us folks down here in Georgia will eventually catch up. I don't know Uh, I'm hoping we do. Um, I mean, there's a lot of technology out there and I'm hoping that, um, you know, somebody here will Uh flick the light switch on and and and get us caught up here I was like I was talking to um I was talking to my my friend Ken who was down there at the act expo right before I came live and We were talking about highly on and you know, he says he thinks that this is probably a couple of years out to three years Etc. That that doesn't mean that in the short term We can't see a little bit of reprieve and the stock price and get it back up above that ipo price but I told him I said I don't really foresee Going the rest of my life without having exposure to this company just because I think that the real money Is probably going to be made ultra long now. That's that's my thesis Okay, you could disagree with me if you want, but I I think if you're looking to chop the stock after five years I think you're probably going to be really disappointed in that you might have had This stock is close to if not at the ground floor And where this company is going to be five 10 years down the line Um, we could be talking about a whole different company here gentlemen. We really could but Without further ado, man, then get andrius in the house, man, and I just want to thank you I want to thank you on behalf of the channel and I want to thank you on behalf of myself personally man your work has been Second to none I want to know when you're going to get that damn interview Because i'm pushing for you brother. I really am man. I just appreciate all your efforts Um, and what you do for the community, man You're kind of like the blue that holds it together Your efforts do not go unnoticed and I want to thank you Welcome to the channel man. The floor is yours my brother. Thank you. Yep. What you got andrius Thank you ryan. Can you hear me? Okay Loud and clear brother Nice. Nice. I mean, I think it's awesome. Um, how community came to be to where it is today Because when I started it like two or three years ago It it only it came as an idea for like one place for all investors to hang out Because we had rick in facebook groups. We had christopher on yahoo finance They never knew about each other. They were dealing with all these trolls and awful like yahoo finance as you know conversation board Yeah, and then It just blew up to where it is today And it's awesome how much of an impact we can have Because one thing I noticed about hylion is that no one knows about it There was recently a youtuber who made a video from xxpo and in the background He is making video about nicola, but in the background He has all these other drugs and erx clearly in the background displayed, you know number two And he mentions all these other companies that we can't even see on the screen But he skips hylion And this uh youtuber he has like 150 000 followers no one knows about it Same on linkedin. I'm in comments. I'm talking for these people who are experts in the industry They don't understand hylion no one knows what they do Um, and I think as a wider community If we can spread the message all together on twitter linkedin, etc. Hopefully that's how we can help hylion to um Grow faster and hopefully more interest is going to be generated Little more sales I I think I think you hit on something really really important And then I come back to all of the relationships with big industry That hylion has shared openly Over the last couple of years So where I agree with you that and you know, I've been scrutinizing over the You know the lack of transparency we go through phases fairly dry phases Okay, and I've been to the point where I've been cutting edge scathing Maybe even disrespectful you could call I'm I'm open to that scrutiny because it's probably true It's probably true I for me right I always see those different personalities. I watch your streams and I can pick up whether it's hank or hyan Well, I I tell it's it's the frustration for me is That being a soft spot as you point out andrius right in that I heard some of the scuttlebutt on the floor That they're at the end of their rope that the time is now even to the point of like kind of being I don't know pissed off a little bit To to want to share that story And kin told me that the employees were excited They were excited to show whether it be the 3d parts the printing the carno to talk about how awesome it is He talked to a lot of people and he's like everybody was stoked to be part of highly on Okay So that excitement needs to be conveyed. Yeah, it has to be Okay And for the small niche on my channel that I'm able to generate to the best of my knowledge sometimes Sometimes measuring the level of a reach that you get through youtube is somewhat shallow And that you put your word out there. You hope it's making a difference You know and and and I've done this a long time andrius I've put content out there that I thought was really really good and it falls on deaf ears It's it sucks in the eyes of youtube and I'm looking at the content. I'm like that can change lives I just did it as early as this week three portfolio videos on fixed income One on passive investing one on dividend growth. It's got a few hundred views, right? So you think okay, ryan. Well, you're being a little bit scrutinizing, etc The the thing about it is people are fickle in what they in what they Relate to or what they aspire to or what draws their attention Okay, and sometimes where I felt like the company wasn't being as forthcoming as they could have been Okay, maybe they chose not to maybe there was a strategic decision behind it. I don't know any of that But I just felt like the timing. I mean here. We are right. We're a pretty tight community But might I remind you we're near all-time lows right near in the stock And if we now next week is going to be a telling week if we enter into next week And we start to digress back to the 120 130 and start to really tickle that that idea that we could go sub one Which never even entered my mind, you know It's hard to not compare. Look, hold on a second. We generated some pretty good momentum from the act expo We need to keep that going And the question the harder question for highly on is do they have the ability to keep it going? Do they have those relationships that we all think are there with all of the companies that have come and gone? I mean, I go back to cr england. I go back to Idealies, right? I go back to all of these different relationships Agility which was identified on the carno truck that that you guys saw on the floor, right? I go back to all these relationships and I cannot for a second think That that is not going to pay dividends here for this company. They're making the relationships in all the right places so Yeah, you can push to all the all the masses out there and and get to The the masses as far as the general populace But I actually think smartly enough I think thomas healy is probably speaking to those people the way he spoke to the people at the expo When he identified the five, you know the five issues with bev And and at least giving them credit for talking to an audience this year That was a hundred percent greater than last year. So Man, I hear you. I tell you sometimes and i'm human being right Sometimes I feel like it's time to press and You know, it's um, it is what it is. We learned from it I think we've gotten tougher over this last couple of years, but You want to jump in robert and add to that you you're welcome to brother Yeah, you know, I actually brought it up to them to the girls the ladies That were handing these out at the counter, you know, because one of them was in marketing And I I brought it up to them and i'm like, you know, how come It's only thomas talking about it and how come there's not a lot of marketing going on and she was like Oh, yeah, but we do have all these marketing materials and we are And I don't know they got mad because at first they were happy and then they just were quiet listening But they said they were going to take the feedback back But i'm like, hey, i'm i'm a shareholder. So i'm just going to tell you how I see it and plus I got a business background And I told her what what I think you guys really need to be doing is the mcdonald's effect Because you're talking about all this technology and what you really need to talk is just talk the money Show how they're going to make money and keep it simple but get the message out there, you know that way Uh, you guys can have first mover advantage And I want to talk to what andrew said he's 100 right man. I know it's the same thing Nobody knows about highly on And I saw that video to andrew's I saw that guy he went right through it You know, these are youngsters am I got a lot of hype people following them And these are the people that the esg people are following just because they Want to save the planet which i'm all for you know, but all these people don't know about highly on and Look, I found something I think Like us that we're talking about highly on to push out highly on We are making a slight mistake or miscalculation that we're only talking about highly on so Only the highly on people are listening to us only the ones that didn't know I made two videos about nikola recently and they got a bunch of views, but Man somebody comment. He somebody said hey, thank you for sharing this I actually did not know about highly on and now i'm a shareholder So i'm like, wow, you know what it is sad because nikola is just pushing content out they're really Doing it right you could tell that they got a lot of consultants And people are falling on the hype. I mean when nikola first came out I fell on the hype But I became educated and they're falling in the hype and they're just dumping money in there and and nikola's dangerous I think it's going bankrupt You know, there's no way that they can survive. I think silent alert would agree with you Yeah, I think andrius and silent alert have been covering this pretty Pretty pretty um pretty intimately. I think you're right I just think the cash burn might be a little bit too much to overcome for those guys One one one thing I would say about Nikola and the other teslas I I often Argue a lot in different forms with with a lot of these guys. I see a couple of them in the chats that I've argued before um My whole purpose in doing that is to I always invite them to the discord because if you have a legitimate thesis that Your solution will work More so than a highly honest solution or a tesla solution. I want to hear it I want to hear everything you have to all your solution has to offer and how it fixes and address these problems that arise one thing what silent alert said, uh When he was when he was speaking he talked about how thomas haley was more aggressive more about the points the five points that Faced me in the problems that are ahead of them And I think that's because now and in the beginning he was kind of timid didn't want to um ruffle any feathers But that's when the landscape was all about zero v zero emissions of bevs hydrogen Um, it still is but it started you're starting to see more change the more the problems that Thomas haley brought up in the very beginning or starting to manifest So now he feels more comfortable to hit home those those same issues We saw what nicola during the earnings call they they mentioned there can't they couldn't sell their trays because there was no charging infrastructure Please didn't want to work up all that money For that charging infrastructure just to buy a couple of trucks because they couldn't get approved for X amount of chargers to buy more trucks because they didn't have enough power in that area You'll see that with you'll see that with nicola. You see that with tesla. They all face those certain problems um, but The problems that they're facing highly innocent face because they're grid grid independent Um, they're not dependent on the grid So I think thomas haley he hit home all those different points. Um, tesla often Talks about their seven cent Uh per kilowatt hour charge rate and I did the video a couple of months back about um a company that Puts in all these uh all the infrastructure for fleets and then they charged them A dollar per kilowatt hour not seven cents not 30 cents a dollar because they put all the infrastructure as it was Progarious, I think the company was they're going around buying up all the real estate That you can have these high these chargers in they bind up all the real estate that they're allowed to Have this big power drain so nobody else can get it and they're developing the land For fleets to rent those buildings but they're charging them a dollar per kilowatt hour And that will kill a fleet that has a tesla semi that needs as a thousand dollars per charge This is because they have like a thousand uh kilowatt capacity battery That's a thousand dollars per charge per truck That's not that's not sustainable and Thomas healy and and highly young what they come into play is they're answering all those tough questions that fleets are asking um And what you don't hear from the other guys like nicola tesla you don't hear them talking about what fleets want You hear them talking about what they can do never Never never I I want to hear a little bit more from andreus if I can man and andreus I I would invite you to take the conversation any direction you wish to to try to further The understanding I I think you you hit it right on the head was awareness Um, you know if I had the opportunity to do highly on videos every day I would You know, I I think a week a weekly address I think this is really awesome to be able to to do the the live stream and Bring a bunch of people in and talk about our collective ideas, but You know, are we missing something? You know, I mean does the stock market just severely have this thing wrong? Or is it partially correct and and dare? I suggest to actually look at it from the other side of the coin Is there a reason why highly on is under the radar? I mean there's there's some interesting comments here in the group here that talks about never investing in highly on because of the management You know, um, there was some interesting comments here if I can find it I want to throw it up on the screen because it was You know pretty scathing. I mean, there's a lot of people who would look at the stock price and say Come on guys. I mean, what are you? What are you doing? I this is this is obvious right here I love highly on but we'll never invest in this management So the staunch disconnect between what silent alert talked about at the top of the live stream You know, thomas healy being one of those major reasons as to why you know, he's been You know steadfast Along this ride the whole way for the last not three years of public markets, but seven years of the company You know, what what's what's your overall thoughts and consensus on on on on where we are now and where we could potentially go Based on what we know now. Do we have this thing wrong? I think no, I don't think so, especially just like x caliber I like to go to different communities nicola and tesla in particular and to try not to argue with them But really debate and befriend them and to really try to them to challenge me more than I challenge them But every time I go to to nicola any any kind of nicola group. It's like those guys are just Illusional, I mean What are they thinking about? You know, you have to think about what does the fleet need? They have a job to accomplish. How are you going to help them to accomplish this job higher payload Better range no range anxiety um better margins So nicola any kind of nicola group. I never had any meaningful discussion whatsoever Let's talk about okay, so I hear you brother and I want to I want to bounce these couple things off And I know you're more than prepared to deal with these but mick j if I was gonna, you know Shake the tree a little bit. It's talking about cash burn, right Okay Yeah, it's easy to sit there and say now highly on's got plenty of cash in the bank But you could actually game it out and suggest that you know after a couple of years here It might might be a little bit different story Knowing that we're going to burn through these first couple 210 220 orders and have You know exponential Impact of the fleets but as far as like top and bottom line profits We're not going to be there and the second comment here is meanwhile your ceo keeps selling shares even at these prices I don't I don't know if that's factual as a matter of fact. I would challenge it and say that it's not There's actually been some more buying actually at not these levels But actually significantly north of these levels, but I haven't seen any significant selling at these levels at all But you want to try to try to respond to that andries? Um, I'm quite sleep deprived at the moment. Can you repeat the question make it more concise? Yeah, he's talking about okay. Well cash burn guys, right? You're gonna run out of cash and then the high ground story is going to go tits up and then we can talk about something else um and You know, this is a common right. This is a common criticism because You know, I always go back to the inception Some of there's not an investor now that's still holding shares That didn't look at that original investor presentation and say wow They must have some stuff aligned to be projecting That aggressive. I mean in the thousands of deliveries and we're sitting in that year right now So to mic jay's point there's some cash burn going on in the face of what was supposed to be some production On the top and bottom line, right? And that just hasn't materialized you could blame things supply chain issues Of course one of the worst global pandemics and you know many many years that have affected that But is that holistically the reason you know just just a general comment on on what mic jay is is presenting here Right, so I do think that is perhaps the main concern within the community Whether you're a investor or not. Are we going to have enough cash? That's a concern for everyone And I think there is two optimistic views. I think sourish and so Made that did his math. I'm not good at math and I'm probably going to butcher it But essentially what he said is by the time we start producing the year x's and the 210 year x's That may give us enough revenue and offset our cash burn The exact numbers I couldn't tell you no you're right and the other idea I heard like quite like is as we put out 210 year x's and all the potential that carlo has even though we may be burning through cash and not making money People seeing this technology, you know that could skyrocket the price that could generate this really Enormous interest in hylion like that's what has a lot of interest and and then you could oh, you know raise more money Hopefully we don't need Hopefully we don't need to raise more money But that is definitely a potential that people are just going to find out about hylion and like Robert said that at some point is for just going to like kick off I I think I would I would respond in this way I go back to my first opening comments of the live stream This is not investing in johnson and johnson. Okay I talked about johnson and johnson I think everybody on this panel should own shares in j and j and p and g and Home depot and lows hell to own them both. It's all good. Buy some duke energy Buy some southern company I think everybody on this panel even as a retail investor even if it's a 10 share block I think you should own those good company quality companies in some capacities or not When you're talking about hylion, I think by suggesting that because the ceo sold shares If that is exclusively a reason not to own the company, then that's your prerogative not to own the company With regard to the cash burn. I would suggest the same thing In this speculative camp Okay, one of two things are going to happen Hylion's going to make it or they're not. Okay That's the definition of the spectrum that we're talking about. Okay You can't have it both ways You can't Make your decision based on the thesis that you draw up or throw out to a social media audience and especially to get my response on which I take it like it's a genuine comment. Right. They are burning cash right now. Okay The very nature by which they came to public markets under the SPAC process Allowed us to be scrutinizing this very company that we're scrutinizing right now And the question that I posed to silent alert. I'll pose to the group here Are you guys satisfied with the progress thus far? Do you feel like the SPAC dollars have gone too good or have gone to bad? Have you seen frivolous spending? Have you seen poor decision-making? Have you seen a management that you would or would not invest in and I'll pose that to the group I'll kick it off with you X caliber. I'll step by for or or you Robert. One of you guys give me a couple minutes I'll be back. All right. I'll go ahead and uh You start on that. I um I'll commit this comment to probably hop off right a little bit. My I'm looking at my battery Just slowly run down. I got like 10 left. I don't want to cut off on you guys um, but to the first point of the cash burn, um, Like what country I was saying that that's going to slow down once we start making units because we'll get some some return on that money We're still losing money, but it'll definitely slow the cash burn down and as a startup you're you're going to have that cash burn um, highly on has done nothing other than I think they uh, collected some warrants in the beginning of right after the SPAC merger after they became highly on they um They uh, exercise some warrants. That was like the only thing that I can remember that they did to kind of raise capital You look at companies like nicola who have done a lot of different things to raise money um And they and they're still able to function their cash burn is a lot a lot more than what highly on this is because nicola's asset heavy asset like So highly on has options. They have partners. Uh To speak to the cash burn, I think it will work itself out. It's nothing new for a new company Uh, a company trying to get going and and ramp up they have they have options to help them with that as far as the ceo Selling shares we saw in the beginning Because last year we saw a schedule like a schedule blocks of selling from thomas healy This past earnings call. I think he got he did receive some shares for um performance And he took some money off of that. So maybe that's what that guy's referring to For selling the shares. It was a small amount. Yeah. Yeah That's the only thing I could I I do feel that um I'm with the the campus not happy with the original slide deck I'll focus on the on forward progression and movement, but but yeah that yeah, we'll just leave it at that Um, it's a sour subject with me. Yeah, everybody knows that Yeah, well as far as how they use money so far, I think the the carno Will will generate some some revenue For them a different stream. I am happy with that Um, the ex. I'm a big skeptical one. I feel that I'm with you on this ryan Um, I feel like they kind of laid down for coming. This is my own Voluntary hat moment. Appreciate it. I think that I think that Ex deal the fact that they think they Thomas Healy pretty much killed the ex in an earnings call What was it a year and a half ago over a year ago? And there's still no 15 liter coming since The out yet. There's still no there's still no there's nothing Where's this competition that they saw on the landscape, right? Like and even if there was why why shoot yourself in the foot that way What exactly that that to me look like, okay? I'm I'm I'm bowing down. I'm I'm being compliant with something Cummings wants me to do so come so I can partner with Maybe that maybe and I'm a bull on the ex right to robert's point robert's talking about being perfect for hilly terrain That's what it's meant for you don't put it in the lower sunbelt states You don't put it on i10 you put it up in the mountains of new york and you put it up up up in the midwest Where you know you put it up in the mountainous territory. It works perfectly So I I was at a little bit of an awe and understanding why that sabotage took place, but Yeah, let's just natural gas because the Whatever it's saying, like if it's yeah, if it's a diesel ex it's good for the hilly terrain and stuff But if it's like natural gas like the reason we saw it Green path logistics use the ex and um We saw deptmar use it because they can use natural gas a cheaper fuel And what the ex does is it it kicks in On the startup so you can get the load going once the load gets up to speed It turns off and starts to read tries to recharge yourself to reach and break I I can only presume gentlemen that deptmar is like the best thing that ever happened for highly on I say this all the damn time. What a phenomenal. This is a private company gentlemen And and I can only assume we have heard zero negative and only positive from matt the president of deptmar logistics I I think they're one of many of those industry connections and I think the andreas's point about You know not being a well-known company not, you know, not being a household name I think we could potentially make some waves robert. Did you have something man to add? Yeah, you know, I just want to say first of all that business is a funny game man I've been doing business all my life and it's never what you expect And it always comes when you least expect and it's just the nature of it So Me personally, I'm I'm actually okay with everything how highly on it's playing out because Right now it's better to have cash on hand than be burning through it and I feel they got cash It's shit. I mean it's like there's always something right to scrutinize the company on right you get you're burning it too fast You got you know, 250 million, but you're burning it too fast. That's a problem. You know for a startup Yeah, so I'm I'm I'm okay with what highly on stone, you know, they're taking their time and Right now. I think that the worst they could do is go too fast And burn the cash that they have looked the engineers has something very interesting They're like, you know, right now the parts are really expensive because we're using the highest end materials But once we start figuring out the production, we could use cheaper materials to make the parts and they're still gonna perform perfectly So, you know ramping up production has a lot to it And then look, this is the thing that a lot of people don't realize about highly on Highly on building equity and all these patents and all these partnerships their money Has anybody ever gotten a car from a relative for a book? Anybody has gotten a gift for a car for a buck. They're like, you know, because in dnv you got to register at least one dollar Carnal was G's gifts To highly on for a buck these engineers told me so much money went into developing that because When G developed the printers they put in billions and billions of billions of dollars into it so highly on really got that Carnal on a comma so, you know And and and became partner of G, you know, G is divestifying they don't want to invest On them developing products anymore They want to invest in being shareholders of companies kind of like what amazon's doing So there's that silent giant partner called G You know, and then there's all these other partners, you know Like that Cummins partnership and the packer partnership and the Daimler partnership And now the highs on we're gonna inherit highs on technology on the free pretty much I wouldn't even be surprised if in 10 years highly on absorbs highs on at least here in north america Plus we're gonna leverage to go into the european market. So I see that highly on's really getting all these things free You know and and even the the people in the company, they know it because when I brought this up to the girl to the ladies there The way they chuckled about it the way they smiled about it is like like an in secret Like yeah, we're nowhere. We know we're sitting good so I'm I'm actually Not worried about the company and I want to say a point to what Ryan said, you know you if you're going to be an educated intelligent investor You really have to approach investing and highly on that's what it is A you got to look at it as a chance play Is this cannot be the only investment you have if you want to make money, you know for me I'm investing in a lot of things But in the portfolio that I have highly on it is now my second largest position But I didn't just get there all at once, you know every time I learned something new Just giving the time, you know, I accumulate a little bit more a little bit more So I just keep taking a piece of every cash flow that I have coming in And I throw it in there a little bit at a time. So that's the one piece of advice or recommendation I would tell everybody it's like Play it like a champ stock don't let it be more than 10 percent of your investment And investing it like you're not going to need that money like you're Buying it to hold it for 10 years and not worry about it Yeah, I gotta get out of here fellas my baddies with the down you appreciate the the talk Thank you, Ryan Robert Andreas appreciate all you guys appreciate you brother. Keep you on the flip flip side Thanks. Get the caliber take easy, man. You too. Yep, and yeah, you know get some core stocks Like I'm with you, you know, I had some Johnson and Johnson I sold out of it At its peak because I knew it was going to come down, but I'll go back in I have some Lowe's, you know, I I I eventually I usually was playing Home Depot and Lowe's but Uh, at some point I just chose Lowe's. I don't know. I think it does higher ups and downs and You know, you know what I've learned Robert if I could go back man, and I could do it again I could go back and do it again. What a what a funny Funny scenario that would be how we live and learn as we get older and Look to share man. I'm 45 and it was pretty cool the last couple weeks You did a review over my portfolio. That was pretty entertaining for me, man And I appreciate you doing it. I appreciate you doing it. You kind of hit it on the head on a few things The biggest mistake I've ever made my life is selling stock I I look at apples earnings. I did just today and it's like There's no real reason. I don't put any effort I don't need to look at apples balance sheet to understand that maybe it's worth investing now as it relates to highly on specifically And I'll turn it over to andrius to kind of comment on, you know The pulse of the investor community because I get a pulse that there are people that Have put an awful lot of money into this and it's affected their well-being in other words They may be overlevered, right? I mean a company with this much promise and now we're looking at a stock price And we're talking about wow eventually it will turn around I don't know how some of these people have been actually able to weather the storm. I mean, it's been tough on me And I'm a I'm a kick-ass investor. I mean, I've been doing this with my whole life. I've been defining my risk tolerance I'll be a different investor 10 years from now than I am now You know And and with that said it's it has not been easy I would be an asshole to come on to social media and say Sure, it's been easy toughen up everything's normal, you know Now none of that hindsight really sits with me because if you had hindsight enough to just buy it at a dollar 26 Then you would have just done that and I thought that there was no way in hell. We would dip to these levels Um, I don't know. I just don't know how some of these guys are are doing it I think it speaks to the importance of scale like for me 17,500 shares makes sense for me It's it's a good heavy position for me It's a lot less than some and it's a lot more than others But for me it works and that's what a lot of people I think miss as they come on and they say Okay, well ryan with the independent investor has got this big position in the company Therefore it it elevates me and in my eligibility to engage in that and I think that's somehow dangerous and I I always want to try to take a step back and remind people You know not to get caught up in that to really understand Where this could potentially go Either left or right I frame two extremes either it goes out of business and we were all wrong Or it actually materializes over the long term and it actually ends up, you know paying off material I for me. I'm more interested in the company I really want to see the highly on solution actually make it whether or not it gets bought up Whether or not the technology gets bought whether or not they Partner with hyzon and many others to make sure that their technology sees its light of day Which it's not there guys. It's not in class eight right now It has not penetrated at all not one iota I would like to see a day that that penetration actually happens And then the company will follow suit and the stock will in turn follow suit andreas You touched a very important quick if you don't mind I'm gonna thank you guys for the opportunity to participate tonight Look forward to talking to you guys in the future. I gotta work event tomorrow morning. So I appreciate you Eyes open right now. I'm getting over Thanks for coming on brother. I really appreciate your insights. Thank you. Kevin be well on a great weekend. All right later Right. So I think you were touched on a very important point about People in the community sometimes really investing emotionally As is it can never go lower, you know and from the very beginning I've seen some members who have been Extremely attached to the to the stock, you know and really in love with it and invested a lot of money Uh, I know henry if I think he was from korea or something And then you see those people just disappear from the community never post again And I assume they they sold and they may be very Had too much money invested and even in the chat that you can see like Throughout the months when there's like, you know new all-time lows It affects people's like mental health and so I totally agree with you that people need to Understand that this is a speculative play. It could go either way Um for me personally, I'm I'm all in on hylion No, you gotta that's gotta be your emoji brother. All right Well, well for me, I'm 25 years old I don't need for you Yeah, for me, I'm not only investing my my money, but I'm also investing my time I really would love to see highly on at 100 share price 500 share price But also the community be like 20 50 000 people by how tesla communities are I think that's possible and if it works out for me, it'll be life changing If not, I can always start again. I'm young enough so I can take on a lot of risk. I could lose it all Yeah, so be it. Well, I think for a lot of people it's it's important to um, like say take a step back and not um Fall for the pipe and the you have some extreme wisdom Yeah, I this is the first time I've had andrius on the channel. It's super cool for me man I hear i'm talking for super stoked man. I just up until now just Just realize that you're 25 years old. You're wise beyond your years. Yeah, you really are man But that's a perspective that I Kind of pull my hair out sometimes to try to teach people and I know robert does a good job Like I watch robert's channel and thanks man. He does a good. He does a good job, man. Just Well, you're relatable, right? You kind of share What investing means to you, right? Yeah, so you're robert's investing program I don't need to deploy that all I need to do is just deploy the what makes sense to ryan program And I I would that's the whole point of the independent investor channel is that I don't believe that people can come in and hear me talk and just carbon copy cookie cutter My program and make it make sense for them. They'll face because nobody should It should be a individual endeavor, you know, you got to invest in what you love now You're not going to grow it You're not going to bring the karma the energy that hidden Sauce that makes it grow for you. It's like you got to invest in what you love And you know, I think the fact that a lot of people did lose a lot of money It's a painful experience, but education is painful And I think we've all lost money, you know, I hear the mistakes you've done ryan I'm right there with you, man. I made so many mistakes. I'm like, damn So what I shouldn't sell kept what I shouldn't kept And you know, it's just part of the journey, you know, but but The education so powerful because you hear Warren Buffett talk about a you're going to lose You're going to lose three out of 10 But the other seven are going to make up for it and you're going to be okay And having that knowledge That is from books and not just hearing all these people that come on tv and they hype you one way one day Another way another day and you're just following them. You're going to make Bad mistakes, but when you're educated and you have a plan And you rely on that plan it's going to carry you Look, I'm not sure if I have an ulcer because I get mad easier because of 2022 I don't know But yeah, it's it's affected me physiologically. I think everybody But it's just part of the game you want you want to know some insights. Um, this might help explain and I always feel like Sometimes people, you know, when when when Hank comes out on twitter and I I I that emotional Root when I tweet like that Is really to defend the people that I feel like have followed me and Look man I don't like to be wrong So highly on specifically I felt like has been a target from the beginning I feel like it has been overlooked um, I feel like It has the technology I feel like it has the team I feel like it leveraged an opportunity to come to public markets via the SPAC process at a phenomenal time Only to be met by one of the worst times Right after coming to public markets And I will point to the supply chain issues and I will point to The global pandemic that of which we are still feeling the ramification of to this day Okay, it's one thing after another We have a global conflict going on right now We've had a change in sentiment in in in financial markets Do you remember the sentiment andreus a few years ago? Let's just call it three years ago when the SPAC craze was going on You could throw money at SPACs and I sat back and I watched it. It was unbelievable to see Yeah, yeah, I came in about 18 dollars my first position In in high leon at 18. Yeah Yeah, did you buy anything north of 20 if you don't mind me asking? Um No, it went up over 20 after battery news but I didn't buy Um that my friend takes some extreme discipline It's really the heart that goes out to those people that bought in the 50s 40s and 30s um even in the 20s, um I am not in that camp. I pay enough attention to absorb my position Now i'm not going to come on and profess that i'm up in the stock. Um, that would be blasphemy Uh, I I am not up in the stock But I have lowered my my position and I've just added oh pretty good Pretty good staring down about 5 000 shares just within the last couple of weeks here basing this position at a little bit Um, it's my best knowledge and I don't expect people to have the same level of rigor and discipline that I have To deploy in the face of what we're all going through um But if people can kind of take some level of insight to understand that That cream of the crop to 58 dollars was some pretty good hype Pretty good hype. We are dealing with a stock here with a one in front of it guys one hard to imagine that the company was at 58 dollars, so I understand the criticism on me directly if you knew me personally you'd be like fuck ryan's on them He's a man. He would do anything for you. Um, I've saved two lives. I don't talk about that shit guys And but I feel like I have a little bit of responsibility and if I could just come on and be like, you know To hell with everybody they make their own decision piss on them and I and I and I would just say I don't care about that I'd be lying. I do care. I do I do Think this company I am steadfast in highly on Materializing into something very very special And I think over the last couple of years. We've been subjected to In some cases a warranted downturn, but not all the way. I think in some cases it's been somewhat manufactured I do that's my own personal opinion. You can say i'm wrong But look at the short attack on the company right now. That's a fact. That's not my opinion That that's a that's an attack on a company that in your it where you're at andreus is illegal There's moratoriums set on new companies to allow that technology To not be shorted for the first I think 24 months of of introduction, but here in this country in the u.s It's like it's all about money Right. It's not an interest in seeing highly on make it It's all about finding a target and a mark and taking it down In the interest of profit and I think that's really unfortunate because if this company does end up making it It's going to be in the face of some significant significant headwind Yeah, and and people share the trades In the market on discord and they can see some some big dumps at specific times And and sometimes there is like big buys and the stock price doesn't move one bit I add some direct pull trades. I don't know about it. I don't understand it I don't understand it either But if you're gonna suggest to me that all is fair In this love and war in the stock market and that everything is perfect You're barking up the wrong tree because I just don't buy it I don't buy it and my money's at play all the time. Andreas, right? I'm I'm playing in that market Full well understanding that it's not perfect And and probably far from it. All right So whatever gamesmanship is being played right now Whatever highly on bid to take could highly on come to public markets now in this environment. Hell no I peel markets dry right now. It's non-existent Highly on came the public markets via a window of opportunity that are they going to be that one SPAC that actually look look at the SPAC market It's been a bliver obliterated I contend that they will I really do I've felt this from the beginning With all of my knowledge and understanding that their idea isn't novel in a sense But they have enough nobility within their application There was a piece that silent alert shared. I think in the discord group just today written by jp morgan chase Right on highly on and they were at the act expo I highly encourage anybody to catch that summary piece because it's quite good Quite good. It was optimistic. That's a credit to christopher and his connections. That's right Thank you, andrius. It was a phenomenal piece and christopher Even back to the yahu days Has been pretty awesome pretty darn awesome all the way um And so maybe that's the emotional vein I guess that I operate on Because I know these I know these guys and getting to meet you tonight for the first time and not not knowing you buy an emoji You guys are all good people and I I think man you deserve better and I and I think looking at it now We haven't been provided better, but the keep our eyes to the horizon man I I really think that this thing is going to materialize into something It's going to take that catalyst that none of us can agree That we can put our thumb on right now But I think they're set up and I think the chips are kind of stacked In a way that kind of defines highly on's eligibility To accept those catalysts when and if they are presented with those potential catalysts And I think it's going to be a catalyst for the stock. I really do Good times are coming. That's all I could say I I feel it in my gut and it's not just hype, you know, I It's an educated it's educated guesses um, I followed a lot of companies and I seen I seen good ones That shouldn't make it make it or vice versa, but but highly on I think they got it together They got the right plan and you know, thomas. He's a good guy, you know, he uh, did you talk to him, Robert? Yeah, I met him, you know, I was actually on my way walking out and there he was So I approached him and he right away turned around started talking to me asked me who I was and I told him the story of the channel and then I asked him if I could take a picture with him. He's like, yeah, man He opened his arms a big guy, dude. He opened his arm. He's like get in here, you know, and only only good guys do that You know, not every CEO does that So people like thomas, you know, there's always going to be somebody looking out for him and I wonder I wonder if that relationship And that rapport and that demeanor that he has I wonder if that transcends with his connections In the industry. I think it does too. Andreas. What do you think? I think it does like I study counseling In real life. I think when I listen to him, I see a lot of qualities that counselors have He has like strong integrity and he's super genuine You know, you can relate to him. I can I imagine Robert felt like this as soon as you meet him He's probably has this warmth and this friendliness that makes you very approachable. He's like a people You know, you hear him and that vibe you just connect with it You know, I I heard guys talk great and even though they're the most amazing company After a minute, I'm like I'm done with these people. I'm not feeling the vibe and thomas is a total opposite You know, what's funny? He attracted people like I saw it at the As I was there checking out the urx a lot of people were coming out of the Because I didn't get to go hear him speak live You know, I got there while that was going on But I was hanging around the booth and I saw a lot of people that came out after that Event his talk and they were coming over to check out the booth, you know interested Fleets and all kinds of people. So I think the interest is coming It's just that since people don't know what the government's really going to do and they're waiting for that to play out um Once the actual fed money starts rolling in People are going to know what they really want to do what We've got about 10 minutes left guys and one thing we didn't talk about is the increase from 75 percent to 100 percent That was actually announced by thomas healy when the carno gen the carno erx was actually unveiled Um, I thought that was a huge deal And nobody's really talking about it. I don't quite understand why for fleets That's hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of of incentive money that will be put toward new technology and I I think the Appeal of 100 percent as opposed to 75 percent speaks volumes Um, but I will give you guys the opportunity for the last word you can comment on the 75 to 100 percent increase or anything else That you think we've missed during the the live stream We'll start to wrap it down here guys and I want to thank you ahead of time For your guys's time robert and andrius man. It was a pleasure. I got the I got everybody on the channel tonight Man, it was a real treat for me man. I'm humbled and I'm a debt to you guys Thanks a lot. Yeah, we love you ryan and I think this has to happen more often. It was cool I'm sure the people Yes, bring great ryan and thank you for hosting us and and for putting this together It's all for bringing all the you know all the spokes people for the community on youtube together I hope next time maybe even more people are going to join us. I think What's his name? Uh freeman chose maybe to join us next time He's watching Freeman's freeman's my boy There's there's probably that I get uh, I'll I'll share with you guys and then I'll let you complete your final thoughts Um, what what I don't share on the channel very often is that I get a lot of people who reach out to me directly Um from all over the world And I know you're hailing from from from Europe there. I won't dig down any deeper. I'm married to a european. I mean, uh We're going there in a month. We're going to adelaide in Croatia but um I think the world is a lot bigger than just the country that you're from I I do learn that when I travel and and you kind of hit on this a little bit Robert in your evaluation of the independent investor. I thought that was really cool, man but um Yeah, the whole idea here man is to I love doing that. It was fun, man You know, I'm like ryan deserves some justice. You know, I heard people I don't know. I'm not even gonna say I got I got some I got some thick. Listen for my guy, you know, look here's the thing brother. Here's the thing People will presume that they know outside of my family um immediate um family If you don't know me in person, you don't know me because I'm old school man. I'm 45 this social media thing The the new generation thinks that they know and this isn't to put not your 25 andrius man, but People would presume that they know me They don't they don't know where I've come from. They don't know what I've gone through. They don't know The struggles and rigor. They don't know. Um, just like in all fairness, man. I don't know you so Be careful with your scrutiny, you know, if you think that's justified based on a comment or a perceived interpretation of somebody I don't think that's possible and I don't think people have that ability To to perceive that there was a comment even in the discord group that was like, yeah, you can tell a lot by somebody's comment I don't I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all and I know But um, anyway All the time I get judge too, man. Yeah, I'm gonna go cuz my battery's about to die the wife. All right, brother I'm gonna catch you guys again. You got it brother. Thanks for coming on robert. Thanks for the time brother. Take it easy Andrius I get to leave you with the last word brother on the independent investor live stream, man And it's like three o'clock there, right? Now, yeah, what can I say? Let's keep growing this community. Let's keep expanding. Let's keep, uh, you know Spreading the word about halion. Um, and yeah, I'm gonna go sleep for me. It's nearly 4 a.m. So You deserved it Also, Ryan, I think in the community everyone loves you I think when the Hank first came out everyone was like super confused and I was like, what's happening Yeah, but um, yeah, I think it takes for people to learn to to understand how you communicate Yeah, but but once they learn you're you're very genuine and you do the right do the right thing And I think it's also important to to give investors this realistic view of what's happening Yeah, so they can make better decisions and take a step back And I think you encourage people to take a step back to some of your videos I think that's a very ethical thing to do Um, and I appreciate that uh neutral. It's one of my favorite things like I say all the time. It's just business You know, um And with stock market investing we talk about all the time it it shouldn't be emotion You know and in a lot of different disciplines in investing. It's really easy to deploy that But in speculative investing Nothing tries the emotion more than what we're going through with halion and a company that we believe probably should get more favor Should get more notoriety and quite frankly should be Given a chance, right? Let them fail on their own merit Let them put these trucks into the rigor that they've put through an extensive amount of timing and validation and certification Let them let them fail, right? Let us uncover it. Let them at least have a chance But short selling to me. I'm very very scathing. You see the the worst of me when I talk about that because I'm a positive person All right, I want to look at a company and say if they've got the best chances of success Then let's Define an environment where they can succeed. But andreus. I'm indebt to you brother. Keep up the good work, man And I appreciate you coming on this evening, man, and uh, go get some rest. Go get some nice talking to you Hi, bro. Take easy. My What an awesome live stream and very cool. I want to thank the guest man The andreus is one of those guys that have called out for a long long time providing some phenomenal information He runs the discord group for highly on it's a community that It's fantastic It's the single best Conversation group anywhere in the world. I don't make that statement lightly You can also refer to highly on com for any information with regard to any of the technology that perhaps maybe we mentioned in this live stream That she didn't understand perhaps. Maybe we said too fast and you need to Go and search out that information highly on is it highly on com is a great source of information It's been a while since I've done a two-hour live stream and we had a hundred patrons in here the entire time My devotion runs deep It's it's amazing to me how much energy I can find to Talk about this topic very passionate about it I think this is A very acute opportunity of a lifetime. I really do You're not going to get the chance to go back and invest in highly on again. This is it. We are right now We've all identified those Companies on the charts where we've looked at we've said gosh. What if I even mentioned what if what if I could go back What if I could go back and do it again? And I could be completely wrong on this. I could be right I think in either either of those two scenarios. I don't really care Um, I I think I would just like to evolve and materialize with this opportunity as I see the opportunity through my lens and look to share with a grander opportunity and by by no by no Short I would like to thank silent alert Excalibur as well as robert with investing philosophy And some of the other guests as well kevin Thank you so much for your time and finally andrius was awesome to have you guys on the live stream With that guys, we will go ahead and wrap it up for this evening and send you guys on About your evening and your weekend Hope you guys don't mind me changing up the topic a little bit tonight It was a special coming off a pretty good momentum week for Highly on in the act expo Stay tuned for more. We will report on the information as it is made available And we will look to evolve with the story both for the Highly on opportunity and for the grander community To the independent investor channel So I wish you guys all the best We'll be back with you next friday on the independent investor channel live stream. Be well. We'll catch you next week