 وأقول في القرآن ما جاءت به آياته فهو الكاريم المنزاله وأقول قال الله جل جلاله والمصطف الهدي ولا أتأوله الحمد لله رب العالمين له الحمد الحسن والثناء الجميل وشدوا لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له وشدوا أن سيدنا ونبينا محمد صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وأصحابه والتابعين لهم بإحسان إلى يوم الدين أما بعد إن شاء الله تعالى I want to go into the second type of extremism either in exaggeration or negligence in the concept of التبديع going extreme in negligence or extreme negligence in التبديع or extreme exaggeration in التبديع is what I want to speak about إن شاء الله تعالى in this episode بإذن الله الكريم there are two extremes exaggeration and negligence and as I said before I'm always going to start with extreme exaggeration and then I'm going to mention those who have fallen extreme negligent regarding the concept of التبديع how do the first group who fall extreme in exaggeration when it comes to التبديع how do they fall into it and how does it occur it occurs إن شاء الله تعالى in two ways the first one is تبديع بعض أهل السنة والجماعة بزلتي والفلتتي وبالظنوني والأهم making the tabdee of some of أهل السنة والجماعة I mean people who are the people of the Sunnah and the Jama'a you're making them an innovator based on what بزلتي والفلتة a mistake that they did an error that they came with and سبحان الله actually gets worse for some of them they make you move to the other not because of a mistake you did not because of a shortcoming that you came with but rather with ذنوني والأهم speculation and assumption going into your intentions and this is what he meant this was his intention this was his motive he was trying to say this بزلوني والأهم based on assumption and speculation إمام أحمد رحمه الله I'm going to quote two great imams that debunked this evil methodology evil group الإمام أحمد was asked عمان فضل أبا بكرن وعمرى ثم وقفا ولم يثلث بأثمان a person who gives virtue to أبو بكر and then عمر he says أبو بكر is virtuous عمر is virtuous ثم وقفا and then he stops ولم يثلث بأثمان and he doesn't mention أثمان is the third هل يخرج من السنة does this person leave the sunnah الإمام أحمد said إخراج الناسي من السنة شديد taking the people out of sunnah is a very severe matter الله أكبر taking a person out of the sunnah is severe أحمد said that in the context of a person who did a mistake it's a big mistake evil mistake to not mention أثمان is the third it's an evil mistake but أحمد refuted and debunked the ones who would make تبديه based on a mistake he's at إخراج الناسي من السنة شديد taking the people out of the sunnah and saying he's not من أهل السنة is a very severe matter the second statement that shows this evil trait of making a person مبتدع an innovator based on a mistake that he did or a shortcoming that came from him let alone a zunoon and oham assumptions and speculations that you think is a statement of أحمد ذهب رحمه الله where he said ولو أن كل ما أخطأ إمام في اجتهاده في أحد المسائر خطأ مغفورا له قبنا عليه وبدعناه وهجرناه لما سلم معنا لبنا منصر ولبنا منده ولا من هو أكبر منهما والله هو الهاد الخلق إلى الحق وهو أرحم الراحمين فنعود بالله من الهواء والفضابة الإمام الثهبيه he said every time a person does a mistake إمام في اجتهاده إمام makes a mistake in his اجتهاد he's from أهل السنة he does a mistake he comes with a shortcoming في أحد المسائر in issues of the religion خطأ مغفورا له a mistake that he's going to be forgiven for we come قبنا عليه وبدعناه وهجرناه we come we boycott him we consider him as an innovator لما سلم معنا لبنا منصر محمد من النصر المروزي will not be left for us ولبنا منده and also إبنو منده will not be saved for us neither of the two will be saved why? because محمد يبنو نصر المروزي and إبنو منده were both harsh at each other and they were refuting each other they were going at each other إمام في اجتهاده he said if we because one did a mistake and the other one did another mistake we go and we say مبتدر مبتدر or one of them did a mistake and the other one didn't make a mistake we go on the side of the one that didn't do the mistake and we look at the other one and we say يوم مبتدر then if we do that no إمام in Islam will remain everyone did a mistake إبنو منده will not be saved for us we will say he is a مبتدر because he did a mistake محمد نصر المروزي he did a mistake he is a مبتدر ولا من هو أكبر منهما and these two and these two bigger people than them will become a مبتدر والله هو الهادي في الخلق والله هو الهادي الخلق الله is the one who guides the creation إلى الحق into the truth هو أرحم الراحم and Allah is the most merciful one فنعود بالله من الهواء والفضع we seek refuge in Allah from what? desires and misguidance we seek refuge in Allah from it brothers and sisters تبديعوا أهل السنة making a person of the sunnah a مبتدع and take him out of أهل السنة because of a mistake he did a shock coming an error making him a مبتدع عنات أحمد بنحمل يسأل إخراج الناس من السنة الشديد سبية معها let alone بالضلون والأوهام speculation and assumption I think this is what he meant yeah so he's a مبتدع إِنَّا لِلَّا إِنَّا إِنَّا إِنَّا إِنَّا رَجْعَنُ what are you going to say to Allah يوم القيامة when you are shown the evil consequences of your statement and your deed the second way that this group fall into extreme intabidee is امتحانوا دعاتي بأشخاصين وعيانين they come with an issue known as امتحانوا دعات testing the people in the Da'wah scene they test them with particular individuals they will test you with individual what do you think about sheikh so and so what is your opinion regarding sheikh so and so they come with this ابنو تيمير رحمه الله he said about the concept of testing people upon a particular individual a particular individual remember they have a selected selective individuals particular individuals they've hampered they're going to test you on those people they're not going to test you with العلماء بالسلام no, not the العلماء بالاسلام they're going to test you with their group members they're going to test you with what their particular شيوخ they'll test you with that look what Imam ابنو تيمير said he said فإذا كان المعالي مؤول أستادوا if the teacher قد أمر بهدري شخصين he commands his students to boycott a particular person or be a daddy or to drop him وإسقاطه وإبعادي to distance from this person he says to his students everyone listen to me boycott so-and-so drop him throw him ignore him distance yourself from him ونحو ذلك and things like that he says to his students نظير فيه the student must look at what his teacher said your teacher's statement is going to be looked at فإن كان قد فعل ذنبن شرعين if the person that your teacher's telling you to stay away from has done a شرعي mistake bear in mind there is a شخصي and there's a شرعي he's on a personal issue to your teacher that's another difference that's between the teacher and the other sheikh that's between you two the sheikh said الامام ابنو تيمه he said فإن كان قد فعل ذنبن شرعي and this person has done a شرعي mistake شرعي روقبا بقدري ذنبه بلا زيادة he will be punished in accordance to his mistake that he did in the religion and we will not add anything onto it we won't do it more he's done اي ذنب شرعي اي شرعي mistake he will be punished روقبا بقدري ذنبه he will be punished in accordance to that شرعي mistake that he did بلا زيادة we're not going to add anything onto it ابنو تيمه here and I want you to underline this point just put a pen under it if you're writing in Arabic put a pen under this he refutes two parties of people the extreme exaggeration and the extreme negligent somebody does a شرعي mistake we don't say he's my brother let's just ignore it روقبا he's punished بقدري ذنبه in accordance to his sin that he does in the religion pay attention to this he refutes there the group who make the punishment based on personal issues he refuted them and he also refuted the ones who have no غيرة for the شريعة they don't want to punish anyone whatsoever even if he does a شرعي ذنب they don't care they'll ignore it وإن لم يكن اذنب ذنب شرعي if the person didn't do a شرعي mistake he didn't he did a personal mistake to your teacher he shouted at your teacher he pushed your teacher I mean personal issue لم يجز the student has no rights to punish whatsoever the other sheikh لأجلي غارب المعلمين only based on the mayor of the teacher غيره just because your teacher it's a purpose that he wants or it's issue personal issue for him the student doesn't have any rights to punish this sheikh or this other individual ورسل المعلمين and I will tell him it talks to the teacher he said it is not allowed for the teachers and you حزب الناس that they place sectarianism amongst the students like my students are never going to go to that sheikh and his bia creating that ويفعلوا ما يلغي بينهم العداوة والبغباء and they place and they throw in the hearts of the students that which is going to bring about enmity and hate بل يكونون بل يكونون مثل الإخوة rather they should be all brothers متعاوينين على البرل والتقوة they help each other in good كما قال إتعالة أزال الله سلين القرآن وتعاوينوا على البرل والتقوة ولا تعاوينوا على الإثن والعزوان ما هو جميل إبنو تيمي موضوع here is that إذا فا شخص يدين دم شرعي ليس من الناس يفعلوا تعاوين على البرل والتقوة ولا تعاوينوا على الإثن والعزوان The aya doesn't apply on that The aya is that you work with a brother who has done something personal to you you put the personal issue aside and you look at what تعاوينوا على البرل والتقوة he hasn't got aqida issues he doesn't have many men had issues you put your issue aside للا فلسك الله سبحانه وتعالى and then you just forgive and forget and you move on and you do the دعوة with them this is what تعاوينوا على البرل والتقوة like if he does a دم شرعي روقب he's punished but if he's غرض غرض المعلم the teacher has an objective the teacher's personal issues should not be a reason why you shouldn't work with another teacher who's upon the sunnah who's calling to the sunnah who's propagating the sunnah ابنو تايمي أرشو يسأل how is she right لك أشيخ العلامة الشيخ العلامة المحبة الفقيه عبد المحسن العباد البدر رحمه الله تعالى حافظه الله تعالى he's still alive he spoke about issue of testing a person on another person عبد الشيخ عبد المحسن عباد القرسان he said ومن البداع المنقرتي one of the innovated matters that have spread is محادثة فيهاد الزماني things that have started to creep into the religion or things that have snually been invented things that have newly been put which is what فيهاد الزماني at this particular time من إمتحاني بعض من أهل السنة it's to test a group of people of the sunnah I'm the liner points the person is من أهل السنة already we mentioned how a person can be أهل السنة how a person can be أهل السنة in two ways we're reading kind of the concept of Teschi we kind of mentioned that a scholar says that he's a scholar who's known to be from أهل السنة say this person is from أهل السنة take knowledge from him or he's become famous he's become known for knowledge and the sunnah that person is from أهل السنة we saw his tapes we saw his recordings with lessons books authorship الله وعكبر بارك الله وفيك أخي you've aided the sunnah this person you go and you want to test him with individuals من انتحار بعض من أهل السنة some أهل السنة he said testing another group of أهل السنة بأشخاص you're testing them with particular individuals سواء كان الباعث وعلى امتحان الجفاء في شخص يمتحن به أو كان الباعث وعلى الإطراء لشخص آخر the aims that people do this is what the objective is to what is to boycott a person or it's either to go overboard and praising someone your aim is to test this person شيخ أخي what do you think about a شيخ سواء سواء you don't like him you don't like him you can't your aim is to either keep that person close with you or you want to cut them off if he sprays your شيخ or that person that you admire ضفرة بالترحيب واللمتحيب والثناء عبد المحسن says that the person gets happy and screams and masha'Allah look at allah من أهل السنة you haven't even seen this عقيدة yet you haven't seen anything else about him just because he spoke good about your شيخ من أهل السنة الله أكبر take knowledge from him وإلا كان حضور تجريح والتبديع والهدرة والتحلير or else if he doesn't praise the sheikh then he's going to be boycotted he's going to be slandered he's going to be boycotted he's going to be wounded against all of that that's one extreme now in شاء الله I'm going to go into the other group الطائفة الأخرى the second group of people who are falling into extreme negligence extreme negligence how have they done it the two opposites we just mentioned which is عدم التبديع they do not place تبديع on what من وقع في بداع a person who fell into innovation for them is not an innovator this person has fallen into innovation he's a مبتدع because أخي إخراج الناس من السنة شديد أخي taking the people out of the السنة is harsh نحن دراجل is مبتدع وقع في بداع he fell into innovation حتى it reached a point where the person is saying I am not from هل السنة يعني إلا هذا الحد I am not Salafi he's saying it to you and you're saying والله أخي is a Salafi إلا هذا الحد keep the person in لأ إن شاء الله explain a very poor question that many people ask which is ماتا يحكم على الرجل بأنه ليس من هل السنة when can we say a person is not from هل السنة very important question right when can we say because this is the whole معركة the whole discussion and the dialogue right you did tabidia on this person and you didn't do tabidia on this person let's discuss ماتا يحكم على الرجل بأنه ليس من هل السنة when can we say this person is not from هل السنة when and who can say it please listen attentively and observe absorb these points إن شاء الله absorb it and take it in and understand it يحكم على الرجل بأنه ليس من هل السنة والجماعة when we say that this person is not from هل السنة he is an innovator is بأحد أموره تراته three things is when he becomes an innovator if he falls into any of these three things he is an innovator he is not من هل السنة والجماعة لا من قريب ولا من بعيد in no way shape or form first of all is أن يكون منهجه في تلاق الدليل أن يكون منهجه في تلاق الدين والاستدلال مخالف لمن هجي أهل السنة والجماعة this man the source in which he takes his religion from and the way that he uses the textual evidences it's totally and utterly in opposition to أهل السنة والجماعة is upon this person is an innovator where does he take his religion from where do you take your religion from where do we أهل السنة إن شاء الله إن شاء الله ما الله make us from them where do we take أموره where does أهل السنة take their religion from أهل السنة والجماعة take their religion from the Kitab and the Sunnah and the إجماع the Kitab the Sunnah and the إجماع that is the source of أهل السنة anyone who does not take the Kitab does not take the Sunnah and does not take the إجماع ليس من أهل السنة question here pause can anyone make تبديع on a person who does not take from the Qur'an or the Sunnah or the إجماع or is there a must there is إقامة الحجة that the proof is established upon the person or can a general mass أمي person say that this person is not mean أهل السنة can he say that yes he can if a person does not take the Qur'an he does not take the Sunnah and he does not take the إجماع in the religion any and everybody can consider that person to be an innovator إقامة الحجة does not prevent him from being a Muqtadiah or not فتنبهلي ذلك a ponder over this point for instance إستعمال الأقيسة العقلية يوجد شخص يستعمال الأقيسة العقلية على القرآن والسنة قرآن والسنة يضع القرآن والسنة ويقول الله أرستوتو يقول ها ويخبرهم ويخبرهم يضع القرآن والسنة هو من أهل بداعي والأهواء هو يعتقد أنه يكون من الإنفايتات هو يعتقد أنه يكون من الإنفايتات عبدالله المسعودين يقول يجيء قومون هناك سيكون قامة يقيسون الأمورة برأيهم يستخدمون الأمورة ويخبرونهم على القرآن على القرآن والسنة ويجمع فا يحدموا الإسلام ويثلم الإسلام سيبقون لأنه ما يفعلون هذا سيقومون الإسلام ويقومون لأنه ما يفعلون ويقومون إبنو تيني ألوكوريسة يقول التمسخ بالأقيسة تقومون تقومون بالفلوسفية الأمورة مع الإعراضي عن النصوص ويقومون من القرآن والسنة والآثار ويقومون من المتابعات من الصحابات في التابعين في التابع والتابعين باريق وأهل البداع هذا هو الطريق من الإسلام الثاني يذهبون لأهل السنة في المشاكل في المشاكل في المشاكل منه ردوا المصوص التي تخالفوا أصولهم الفاسيدة They reject the textual evidences that go against their filthy belief when the Qur'an and the Sunnah comes again نعم أطعنوا في خبر الأحد anyone who rejects خبر الأحد in عقيدة he's a muptada he says I don't say single generations in religion in عقيدة sorry I don't take single generations in عقيدة he's a muptada this individual بعيني individually he's a muptada شخصون so he's not waited for he's a muptada the khawarij the qadariyah the murjiah the the jabariyah the صوفيا if anyone meets any of those groups bumps into them into the streets they are muptada he considered them to be a muptada just the same way when you meet Chris Michael Steve you don't call a sheikh and say sheikh I met Steve and is he a Muslim أصل is that you can see this person is a kafir the muptada from the group of the صوفيا or you meet a person who is from the مثلا he is from the qadariyah and the murjiah or the khawarij he is من أهل البداع والأهواء علماء أهل السنة قديما وحديث and they spoke about these issues or else there will be no مبتدع on this earth because every single person on this earth is a muptada unless there is a sheikh who preceded you and make it a deal of this person particularly then no one will be a muptada or literally will be a muptada that's another extreme in negligence brothers and sisters extreme in negligence we have a people saying I'm not taking khabar al-had in the religion we say you مصدر تلقي where أهل السنة take their religion from you don't have it you're من المبتدع okay the second way a person can become a مبتدع is أن يعتقد أصل من أصول الفرق إضالة المنحرفة he believes in a foundation from the foundations of the people of innovation and those foundations are five the issue of the sahabas he goes against أهل السنة regarding what the sahabas are for أهل السنة or he goes against أهل السنة the issue of الوعد والوعيد promises and rulings that are found in the Qur'an in the sunnah القضاء والقدر the things that Allah تبارك وتعالى predestined the fourth one is الأسماء والحكام names and rulings that are found in the Qur'an in the sunnah like issue of the iman kufouran fisq and bida'a or not the fifth one issue is what الأسماء والصفاء Allah's names and attributes these are called أصول أهل السنة والجماعة these are fundamental issues أهل السنة والجماعة these fundamental issues أصول that I just mentioned now if a person goes against أهل السنة والجماعة then we will have to establish the proof against them we call that person زاق يونجيس أهل السنة in this issue it's a fundamental issue in the religion let us explain it to you these are أصول إقامة الحجة على المعين a particular individual requires proof to be established on them and we're all together brothers if he's consistent if he's continuous upon the innovation after he's been told يا أخي this is not what أهل السنة والجماعة believe he will then be ودهل بدا he will be considered to be for أهل البدا this one the second one the person has to be a person of knowledge to do it and a person of understanding comprehension it's not every individual who can do this second thing is that because what you have to do is two things you have to bring the proof against them and you have to remove the doubt that they have and only علم and a scholar can do that the second type it requires a person of knowledge it requires establishing a proof against a person the third type or the third thing that makes a person مبتدئ takes them out of أهل السنة والجماعة is أن يخالف في جزياتك كثيرة this person he comes with opposing أهل السنة in so many issues sub branches none of these issues are fundamentals but they're sub branches يعني أكوال شاده he brings all of the strange opinions and he brings them all to the table all of each and every one of them is a فقي issue which is فرع it's not an أصل when they come together they become a أصل that it's now harming an أصل but how can all of this shad come together for you unless there's a problem in the أصل for you it's a fundamental problem here أهل السنة والجماعة consider this person to be a مبتدئ but they do after they've established a proof against them they remove the doubt from them the last two that I just mentioned which is he goes against أهل السنة in a fundamental issue or he goes against أهل السنة in many sub branches those last two إقامة الحجة establishing the proof on the person what the علامة called and would do the شروط وان تفاق الموالع the conditions have to be met and the obstacles and the preventative factors have to be absent for the last two the first one which is مزدر طلاقي where you take your religion for brothers and sisters إقامة الحجة does not come in place in that issue فتانا با point around this issue this is where the إفراط and the تفريط happens the extreme exaggeration and extreme negligence if a person goes against أهل السنة إن مصدر طلاقي بعينه زيد خالد عمر إذا مبتدع and this is where أهل السنة والجبع many scholars have mentioned this like أبو قاسم التيمي نسكتاب الحجة في بيان المحجة شيخ لسامي بنو تيمي I mentioned this ألي ما مشاطبي you mentioned this رحمه الله تعالى أبو قاسم هبط الله اللي لك you mentioned this رحمه الله نسكتب أصول عتقاد لسنة والجبع this issue that's the problem with both parties now إن شاء الله تعالى I'm going to go into the last form of الغروف التبديع extreme negligence in التبديع which is عدم ممتحان الدعاة بأشخاص بالكلية they don't test any person with any شيخ whatsoever that's another extreme that's another it's another extreme extreme negligence if a person comes to us he's unknown we don't know who you are we've never heard of you you don't have any دعوة we will test you with some شروخs and people of knowledge we'll also test you with some of the صحابهs and this is something that was present in the books of عقيدة you find that present that إمام quoting and saying that but there are two conditions that must be met or else it's going to be a exaggeration or it's going to be negligence what are those two conditions those two conditions is the person that you're going to test the people with must be someone known يكون شخص الممتحة وبيه من أهل السنة first of all that person has to be from أهل السنة and he has to be known from أهل السنة like شيخة من أباز شيخة من أعثين من شيخة للذانية are very well known scholars everyone knows them the second one is ألا يستعمل إلا في محلي it can only be placed in its right place when is the right place this person must not be known as أهل السنة in the first place is known to be أهل السنة يدعو إلا السنة we don't test him the second thing is that this person is not in a land where the bid'a is more than the sunnah the bid'a is more than the sunnah what's the point of you testing the people with the علماء of the sunnah حالة وضع في والقوة we look at it we observe that شيخه الإسلامي بنو تيمي appointed that out if those two conditions are not met it either becomes extreme exaggeration or extreme 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