 Good morning and welcome to this public meeting of the consumer product safety commission. We're meeting today to consider the draft nose proposed rulemaking to establish safety standards for bassinets and cradles. We're going to start with questions for the, for the staff. We have several staff members present to answer questions. If there are any, we're joined by Celestine kish. Uh, that's net and cradle product manager for the division of human factors, Alex muskosa associate executive director for economic analysis and Mary house and charlotte alton attorneys in the regulatory affairs division of the office of general counsel who are both joining by webex. Each commissioner will have 5 minutes or questions. We'll have multiple rounds if necessary. I actually believe that I'm doing Boniface is also online if necessary after questions are complete. We are then going to consider any amendments. If there are any as a reminder, if you have questions addressing the sexual interpretation or legal advice, please don't ask them at this time. So, at this point in time, we're going to move to questions. I don't have questions for the staff commissioner felbin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't have questions at this time either. Mr. Trump, I have no questions either. Thank you, commissioner Boyle. No questions. Thank you. Great. With that, we're going to excuse staff and move to consideration of the package. Thank you all for putting this matter as proposed by staff to a vote. I'm going to entertain amendments and emotions from commissioners. I have an amendment. We're going to recognize myself for 3 minutes. This is a manager's amendment that reflects conversations over the course of the last several weeks. And it's simple to expanding upon 1 question for commenters and adding 1 additional question. You know, both are focused on the allowable tilt to best nets. And if there's a reason to permit. A greater tilt from head to toe as opposed from side to side, we would ask stakeholders to comment on whether wider bass net should be allowed to have a side to side tilt if the caregivers may put a baby in sideways. And the amendment makes clear that the commission is interested in hearing about any potential risks that may arise in a 10 degree head to toe tilt. Not just those related to chin to test incidents. Is there a 2nd, 2nd hearing a 2nd, I'm going to turn to comments questions from the other commissioners. Commissioner Feldman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you for your work and your staff's work and putting together this manager's amendment. It makes sense to me. I have no questions. Thank you. Hey, Commissioner Trump. Yeah, I agree. It makes sense to to learn more on these issues and get the right answers on the tilt angle. So I support the amendment. Thank you. Commissioner Boyle and thank you for your work and I support the amendment as well. And I don't have any additional comments at this point in time. We're going to move to a vote. Commissioner Feldman. I vote yes. Commissioner Trump. Yes. Yes, a vote to adopt the amendment that is yes from Commissioner Feldman. Yes. And Commissioner Boyle. Yes. And yes for me. So the yeses are for the noes are zero and the amendment is adopted. Now going to other potential amendments. Commissioner Feldman. Do you have any amendments? I have none. Thank you. Commissioner Trump. Do you have any amendments? I do not. Thanks. And Commissioner Boyle, do you have any amendments? No, I don't. Great. Hearing no additional amendments, I'm going to move to approve the draft notes proposed for rulemaking on bassiness and cradles as amended. Is there a second? Second. Hearing a second, we're now going to move to a vote. This is a vote on the final package. Commissioner Feldman. I vote yes. Commissioner Trump. Yes. Mr. Boyle. Yes. And I vote yes as well. So the yeses are for the noes are zero and the draft notes are proposed for rulemaking on bassiness and cradles as amendment has been approved. So we're moving very quickly and not even give me a chance to take a drink. We're going to now move to but early there is often an ass. This is tea as opposed to anything else. We're now going to move to closing statements. Each commissioner will have to 10 minutes. So, first of all, I'm going to wreck myself for 10 minutes. I'm going to start by thanking staff for all their hard work on putting this. Proposal together in 2021, the infant sleep products rules established the best nets as standard as the baseline safety for products that are marketed intended for infant sleep. You know, this puts a burden on CPSC to ensure that the standard for bassinets remain strong and is not weekend. And in 2022, the commission unanimously rejected an update to the ASTM's voluntary bass net standard concern for that for the proposal created. The new product category of compact bassinets and allowed for the elimination of legs or stands for bass nets, which would have reduced safety. The proposal we move forward this morning would adopt portions of the revised 2022 ASTM voluntary standard and improve safety as well as proposed changes to strengthen the standard to require minimum height for the sleep surface and the top bar of the bass net. The reason for these proposed changes is to discourage caregivers from putting bass nets on couches, beds, other soft surfaces that can create a risk for infants. There are a lot of questions for commenters at the end of this package and I encourage all stakeholders to take those questions seriously and take the time to give us your input. Those comments will be essential for the staff as they develop a final rule. So, thanks again to the staff and I look forward to hearing comments from stakeholders. Commissioner Felpin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would largely associate myself with all the comments you just made. I do in particular want to thank staff for all their work, not only on the package that we voted to approve today, but all the engineering, human factors and other research that's gone into getting us to where we are. Looking forward, a critical part of this process involves reviewing the comments that we receive. I'm happy to put this this NPR out for comment and looking forward to reviewing those comments, which is a critical part of this process going forward. Thank you very much. Commissioner Trump, you know, there's a there's a lot of scary numbers that we look at in this agency, but the scariest one to me is the 3600 and been sleep desk that we are working to address every year. And there are so many unsafe places to put a baby to sleep. But when we think about a safe place to put a baby to sleep, it's Bassanets and it's Cribs. And that's what we point people back to. We're doing tons of work to make those other spaces safe. Those ones that have that have popped up over the years and continue to pop up. But as we continue to point back to Bassanets and Cribs, I want us to be as confident as we can that we're pointing to a safe space. This proposal gets us that direction. This proposal is really important to make sure that those say stay the safe haven for safe sleep. And so I'm very happy to support this rule. I'm very happy we advance it today. Mr. Well, thank you, Mr. Chair. And I also want to thank the staff who worked on the proposed rule. And I also want to thank you for over for the many years you've worked to develop an array of strong safety standards for durable and infant products that CPSC now has on the books following congressional direction over 15 years ago to develop such standards. This latest effort build on the statutory command that the Commission periodically review and revise these standards to ensure that they provide the highest level of safety for such products that is feasible. It is fitting that the Commission's first such review involves Bassanets, a product geared not only for infants generally, but largely for the youngest of infants from newborns to three or four months of age, a cohort that is at heightened risk. For example, infants two to six months of age premature infants and infants who are born as a set of multiples are at the highest risk of positional asphyxia because they may be able to move in the sleep environment. But can lack the physical capability to self rescue from a hazardous situation. Indeed, data from a number of our recent rule makings confirms that the majority of incidents involve the youngest infants of the fatalities associated with infant loungers, for example, more than 80% involved infants three months and younger. The recently approved notice of proposed rulemaking on infant rockers showed a similarly concerning pattern in the youngest age group. That is why I offered amendments to that proposed rulemaking approved by the Commission seeking comment on a number of issues, including whether a minimum age should be specified. Information on the biomechanical differences that impact the risks of injury and death for premature infants and infants under four months and whether that the product should include a warning label aimed specifically at that age group. In the context of bassinets, a product intended largely for the youngest of the youngest, providing the highest level of safety feasible must inform the path forward. And as we continue our work on infant products in general, including the review and revision of such rules already in place, we should continue to focus on the youngest age group and those infants with immature physiological systems so that we can reduce the heightened risk for this vulnerable population. One of the most solemn responsibilities we have is to protect that population. And I believe the proposed bassinet rule provides a roadmap to do so through improved performance requirements and enhanced warnings. And I look forward to receiving stakeholder comments on these proposals. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you again to the staff and commissioners working on this to move this package forward. This concludes today's decisional meeting of consumer product safety commission. At this time, we are going to actually ask everybody who is not from the public or not specifically are to be leaving and as we transition to a close compliance briefing.