 Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas, reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Bienvenidos a un especial de Broadcast en I-24 News. Soy Khaled Ben-David. Es el 61 de la guerra de Israel contra el Hamas. Y como hemos reportado, la fe de la guerra en el Gaza Strip hoy, en la mitad norte de la zona, como Israel continúa sus operaciones en el Gaza Strip, contra el Hamas terrestre en esa zona. Y también ahora en la mitad sur del Gaza Strip, especialmente en la ciudad de Chanyunis, es el primer ministro de Benjamin Netanyahu. Estamos hablando esta noche de los trupe IDF llegando al hogar de Hamas Liliyechi Sinwai en Chanyunis. La noche anterior, decimos que nuestras fuerzas pueden llegar a cualquier lugar en el Gaza Strip. Ahora se encarga el hogar de Sinwai, así que su hogar no es su fortress, y no puede escapar, pero es solo una hora de tiempo antes de obtenerlo. De nuevo, vamos a un correspondiente de Israel, quien está cerca de la zona de Israel, en la ciudad de Sterot y Gai. Tal vez más de un éxito simbólico, llegando al hogar de Yelke Sinwai, porque él no está ahí, presumably, en el hogar o en uno de esos tonelos, pero todavía una indicación clara, que el combate contra el Hamas en la parte del sur ha movido incluso al centro de Chanyunis. Sí, hemos escuchado la persona de IDF, referiendo a ese argumento de Netanyahu, diciendo que Sinwai no está en el hogar, obviamente, ha estado en uno de los tonelos. Él dice que Sinwai está en el hogar sin llegar a los detalles, creciendo que el IDF tiene información sobre lo que es posible. Y sí, es un éxito muy simbólico, moviendo su hogar y tomando su hogar, porque Chanyunis es considerado el más fuerte hogar de Hamas. Por supuesto, es el segundo más grande hogar en la ciudad de Gaza, después de la ciudad de Gaza, el más grande hogar de Hamas. Y hoy, la división del 98 de la IDF, las fuerzas comandas con otras unidades especiales, están en la ciudad ahora mismo, de lado a lado, engañadas en combates muy cerca con los terroristas de Hamas. Es un movimiento simbólico, pero además tiene un gran significado operacional, como el IDF continúa a eliminar. Hamas es una capacidad de terror, en el norte, en el norte, y en la parte del sur de Gaza, y vemos que hay evidencia de eso. El hogar de Hamas se despliega, hemos visto algunos de eso antes esta noche, pero ha sido más de tres horas y medio. Ahora, desde el último hogar de Hamas, los grandes hogares que Hamas stilla, por supuesto, principalmente en la parte del sur de Hamas, pero también en las habitaciones de Sajaya y Jabalia, no sé si nuestros veintiuno puede escuchar, pero hay algunos de ellos que están muy pesados, están en lugar ahora mismo, el IDF continúa a operar aquí, también en el norte, y por el día de hoy, hemos escuchado drones, hemos escuchado fighter jets, hemos incluso escuchado automáticos, así que hay mucho combate en muchas áreas de la estación de Gaza, por el día de hoy. Allá, el Gai Israel ahí, el Gai Israel ahí, les agradezco por ayudarnos en el estudio, ahora es un experto en combate de terror, y en el tipo exacto tipo de warfare que el IDF está conduciendo ahora, en el Gaza Strip, él es el reto de Colonel Richard Kemp CBE, formado comandante de las fuerzas británicas en Afganistán. Richard, gracias por ayudarnos. Bueno, vamos a hablar de estos movimientos de IDF en el Hamas, un urbano densamente populado, un poco diferente de el norte de Gaza, pero interesante el IDF es una estrategia un poco diferente. Por ejemplo, hemos visto lo reportado, sus unidades de comando, moviendo profundamente en las unidades de Gai, llegando a ese tarjeto, el hogar de la Yixin War, un tarjeto simbólico, incluso antes de eso, ha conseguido asegurar el área de las unidades de Gai itself. Sí, y creo que esto será mucho la forma de la operación que progresa, comparado a el norte de Gaza. Y, claro, el IDF, como se ha traído en las últimas semanas, ha ganado mucho conocimiento de la forma en que el Hamas está operando. Se han aprendido lessones de sus propias operaciones. Y, claro, una de las cosas importantes es destruir el enemigo como efectivamente posible, mientras minimizando la muerte civil. Y, claro, hay muchas civilizaciones en esa parte del norte de Gaza. Right. Y el tarjeto, y también en la presión internacional, especialmente desde el U.S. para minimizarlo. Pueden ver más de estas operaciones de pinpoint. Vamos a hablar un poco de eso más, pero fue otro día, junto con ese combate en el norte. Fue otro día de fuego por la bordera de Israel-Lebanon. Hisbala lanzó diversos estrictos, atacos de ropa, fuego de anti-tank por la bordera. El ISF respondió con estrictos contra los tarjetos de Hamas en el sur de Lebanon. Vamos a la Zaganda, que está en el norte de Israel, cerca de esa bordera. Y Zag, otro día como los días que hemos visto desde el final de la acción de fuego, ese fuego. Pero algunas promesas que se han hecho hoy, también, por el Ministerio de Defensa, Yoav Galant, sobre dónde esta situación en el norte eventualmente podría ir. Y esas conversaciones se han hecho contra el backdrop de siete atacos hoy que Hezbollah ha tomado responsabilidad para y decían que era ellos, a través de las canales de lebanía. Estas atacas están arreglando las posiciones de IDF a través de la bordera del norte. No parece que hoy hay ninguna inundación y que las capacidades defensivas han ganado la habilidad de desplazar algunos de estos estrictos atentos y defender estas posiciones israelías. El Ministerio de Defensa, Galant, como ha hablado a los mayores y a los head de la acción aquí para las comunidades que han sido evacuadas, ha hecho el punto que el futuro aquí para el norte de Israel, para el norte de Lebanon, en particular, se verá como Israel contando el agrimento de 1701. Esto es en el rato de la guerra de 2006, la guerra de 2006 en Lebanon, con el delito de ser, esencialmente, que los hezbollos de los guerras necesitan bajar de ese acuerdo original. Ese acuerdo original fue que no hay fuerzas en el sur de la Lattani River. Galant dice que para esta situación de seguridad y de resolución, que eso tendrá que ser reducido. Ahora, la pregunta luego se dice, ¿cómo puede ser achievido con el hezbollos estrictos todos los días aquí y amasar una gran fuerza en el rato debajo de esa ría, debajo de ese acuerdo online? ¿Tiene la pregunta que se vuelve, ¿es que va a ser una capacidad ofensiva que ha cambiado la realidad aquí? ¿O hay que ser una presión internacional, o hay que ser una forma de extranjada, diferentes naciones, tal vez de los Estados Unidos, empujar el hezbollo, tal vez, tal vez, incluso necesitar ir a Irán y tener a Irán hacer este acuerdo suceder. Hay un montón de noves, por supuesto, pero con tantos jugadores que están aquí para algo como esto para ser apeldo un acuerdo que ha sido abierto por tiempo y tiempo de nuevo en la última década. Es un desafío muy significativo y es por eso que les dejan a estos líderes y a los militares, a los que han sido evacuados desde el norte, que no hay tiempo clara. No parece que podrán volver any time soon que todo lo que lo que hace para resolver esta situación es un mes, tal vez, incluso un mes. ¿Está bien? ¿Está ahí en el norte? ¿Estás cerca del borde con Lebanon? Gracias por eso. Muchas gracias. Hay también algunos reportes que están en media esta noche, que Amos Hockstein, especial enviado del Departamento de Estados Unidos a los militares, el hombre que basicamente negoció el acuerdo de maratá entre Israel y Lebanon, está trabajando, hablando con oficiales lebaníes, oficiales del gobierno, al menos, en trying to resolve algunas de las problemas de borde, problemas de borde que Lebanon tiene con Israel. Un montón de los sentados en el área, que es conocido como Mount Dove o la Farniza, esperando que se resolviera esos problemas de borde, un nuevo, creo que otro acuerdo que se procedería en el 1701 podría haber llegado, que tendría que tener a las fuerzas de Hisbola atrás de Sud-Lebaná al norte de la Tana, pero ¿cómo realista es eso? Que Hisbola incluso hubiera bajado el acuerdo, incluso que el gobierno lebaní llegara, mientras sabemos que las reales maratá vienen de Tehran. Sí, creo que es muy realista, infortunadamente. He también escuchado que las promesas son muy grandes, las manos cambiando de dinero para que el gobierno lebaní aplique presión, pero, por supuesto, las reales influencias, como dices, son en Tehran. Y Tehran va a ser muy malo dañado por lo que está pasando en Garza, una de sus principales proxies que se han anihilado, esperamos. Eso lleva a ellos en una posición muy rica en el área, muy rica. ¿Ellos van a poder mostrar más rica por darse el balar para retrasar al norte? Y, además, la otra consideración que tienen que hacer es que me diría que si no hay voluntad de desplazamiento por el balar hacia el norte, más allá de la Litanía. ¿Pero Israel va a interrumpir con Hermas en el sur? ¿Y si Iran quiere perder una gran capacidad en una fiesta con el IDF en el sur de Israel? ¿Tienes que balance esas dos cosas? Pero creo que mi sentido en esto es que hablamos de una fiesta que no es una solución diplomática. La otra, o más, digamos, es una alternativa aminista, es que el balar está atrasando sus provocaciones, las provocaciones de la cruz y la asociación, sus rocas y misiles más adecuadas a Israel que en el norte, como Israel se encarga, por ejemplo, en la leadership de Hermas. ¿Cómo probablemente piensan que es? Si piensan, no piensan que eso, como dices, podría lidiar con una situación con una confrontación entre el IDF y el balar, que el balar lo perderá. Creo que hemos visto lo suficiente de la forma que el balar ha estado operando desde que la guerra empezó para indicar que probablemente no van a poner alguna más intensa lucha con Israel si no tienen que tenerla. Supongo que eso es el caso. Creo que si no, hemos visto alguna gran dirección ya. No creo que el balar o el balar quiera perder una gran cantidad de su capacidad para que estén en solidaridad con Hermas. Allá, presidente, estén con nosotros. Vamos a ver otra proxie de Iran en la región, Yemen's Houthi rebels. Como mencioné, Israel's Arrow anti-missile air defense system hoy, again, shut down over the Red Sea. Oranian made ballistic missiles launched by Yemen's Houthi rebels against the city of Eilat, not for the first time. In fact, this was the fifth time this happened. This as the Houthis continue its attacks against shipping in and around the Red Sea. They're claiming to target Israeli-owned vessels. But in reality, these attacks mainly are directed against ships only with tangential or even non-existent connections to Israel. Now one of those was the freighter the galaxy leader that was seized by the Houthis last month. Now it's apparently been converted by them into something of a local tourist attraction. Let's take a look. Today we are on board of the Israeli ship, the galaxy leader that has turned into an attraction. Instead of being a shipping vessel for the Israelis, it turned into an attraction for the Yemenis from all provinces. A big number of Yemeni people are touring it every day. Instead of going to parks and beaches, they are now visiting the galaxy leadership. We will seize these Israeli ships in the Red Sea and at the Bab el Mandib Strait. And as the Mujahideen and the Said Abdul Malik Badrudin al-Houthi, may Allah protect him, have vowed two warships were hit yesterday at Bab el Mandib. And all this is in defense of our brothers in Gaza and the children that are being struck and killed at hospitals and the women in their homes. Richard, again, the question has to be asked about the Houthis We see Israel being effectively at least shooting down the missiles that have been launched. We should mention one of those, the US also has its naval forces deployed in that area and they've been deploying its anti-missile systems against those rockets fired by the Houthis. But this issue of the shipping, this is not, as we said, these ships, these are ships with tangential or no connection really to Israel itself. Who this impacts are the major western nations, the United States, Europe, Great Britain, even some countries like Japan? How long are they going to be willing or standby while the Houthis continue to threaten shipping in that key waterway? Well, they should already have reacted to the actions that have taken place already. And of course, Israel is under fire from the Houthis, but I think we've seen already that Israel is capable pretty much of containing, I think, anything that the Houthis would like to throw at it directly. The big threat here is against the international shipping and therefore is against the United States and not only against international shipping but also attempting to attack a U.S. warship. Now, that should be answered. And if it's not answered, then it's another indication, I think, of U.S. weakness that we've seen in various different places over many years. And so, there needs to be a response to that and it's a response that should be delivered by the U.S. and its western allies against the Houthis. If it doesn't happen, if that doesn't happen, then let us say this current conflict in Gaza and maybe Lebanon as a conclusion, we get closer again towards, perhaps, a normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi. Then, the Houthis have already attacked Saudi on multiple occasions. They're going to want to try and disrupt that progress again. So, I think they have to be dealt with. Right. Let's talk about that. What is being dealt with mean in this case? I mean, is there enough that the, because there's a lot of irony here involved because it was the western allies, especially the United States, that pressured Saudi Arabia to end its military operations against the Houthis in Yemen, now you're saying that they're going to have to take action. There are reports even that Saudi Arabia is urging the United States to be restrained in its response for the Houthis because having made their sort of peace as a war arrangement, I won't use the word peace maybe, an arrangement with the Houthis, they don't want to see that war explode again into a full out conflict. Yeah, I think what the Saudis are saying publicly and what they want privately to happen are probably two different things as they are in relation to Israel as well. So I think there's, there is a need for military action by the United States against the Houthis and I believe that they're likely to be more effective, significantly more effective than the Saudis have been up until now. So I think that's, I think that's something that's going to be necessary. And secondly, there's clearly a need to take strong action to prevent the continual supply of weapons from Iran and funding from Iran to the Houthis. So both ends need to be intensified, both military action against the Houthis and prevention of their resupply by Iran. All right, Richard, stay with us. We're going to move now to the issue of the, really overriding issue of the hostages being held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Now earlier we did report that the Israel Security Cabinet and now political cabinet meeting has decided or has stated publicly that the resumption, the increase in humanitarian aid especially, fuel into Gaza should be linked to the efforts by the Red Cross to obtain access to the hostages remaining in the Gaza Strip. Israeli media reporting tonight that the Red Cross has now started for the first time meeting with hostage families with known health problems asking for their medical files perhaps indicating that they're going to make more of an effort. Now any happiness about the hostages that were turned last week of course are tempered by concerns and fears, although still in Gaza. This amid the emerging stories of abuse, physical, mental and sexual that they may be undergoing. Now much of that concern is centered around the fate of the young women especially that remain in the hands of Hamas. Among them is 19-year-old Nama Levy who was seen bruised and bloody in a video that was shot on October 7th being roughly handled by her captors as she was carried by car in and through Gaza. Now in a note I guess you could say a bitter irony Nama herself was a graduate of Hands of Peace that is a US-based nonprofit group that organized dialogues of coexistence between young Israelis and Palestinians and which today announced it is shutting down due to a funding shortage. Well joining us now is Yoni Levy he is the father of the 19-year-old Nama Levy being held captive in Gaza joins us from Tel Aviv. Yoni, thank you for joining us. I understand how difficult this must be for you. Let me just ask you just about your feelings and your concerns for Nama based on of course what we've seen unfortunately what those hostages in Gaza have been had to endure during their captivity. Yes of course that we are extremely worried about the situation of Nama physically, mentally she's been kidnapped 61 days ago from a bed with a pyjama she's a teenager she's a girl and we understand also from the different experience of people that already came back that it's hell over there and the situation for a young girl like Nama over there is even more critical any day that she's there is staying in the hell and everybody all the world cannot be quite that young innocent girls are kidnapped from the bed and no one knowing what is happening with them for so long time. Spoke talking to some of those organizations that claim to especially be concerned about the rights of women and the defense of women some of you might call in the progressive camp and there is an irony I mentioned it in my introduction that Nama herself was someone who was an activist for advocate for coexistence she was part of this group hands of peace that had dialogue with Palestinians it actually was reported today that group is shutting down because shortage of funds since October 7th what is your message to the world especially to those groups on the progressive side of which Nama was part of especially those that say that they are there to defend women about some of the silence and denial that they've had since October 7th I think this is crazy this is totally crazy what happened with a human organization what is happening with the Red Cross all kind of World Health Organization again all the progress organization that you just mentioned and we see how cynical all this kind of organization the moment we need them the moment this young girl like Nama which in her life did not do anything bad based also on your pictures you can see she was volunteer in a refugee's young African kids in 19 she was voluntary worker she was trying to open this dialogue here you see with the young kids that in 19 years old volunteers for them she trying to open a dialogue in this hand of peace she trying to understand the other people of the border to understand what is there needs to understand to understand what is them their thoughts what is their culture and in the moment we need all this kind of organization they disappear the road red cross disappear the women health organizations globally disappear and it's so sad to see this cynical world and this statements or quietness of these different organizations You mentioned the red cross there was a news item I just read out before you came on I don't know if you're aware there's talk about US pressure to increase humanitarian aid to Gaza the government say putting out a state or no not putting out a statement reports though the government's may the Israeli government may say we need to see the red cross make more of an effort in exchange for that more of an effort to get information about the health and the well being of those who are captive red cross reports they're starting to contact captas families what is the what would be your specific message now to the red cross that is supposed to be contacting the families of hostages like Nama October 7 we are now counting 61 days I think the red cross long long time ago need to there was need to go and visit the hostages Nama is wounded a lot of other people are wounded need medicines need medical care so frankly I don't need the red cross to meet me or to meet the families we need the red cross immediately go to the hostages to the people which kidnapped from the bed and visit them check them give them the medical solutions or medical care that they need Nama was getting wounded my daughter we know that she is wounded they need her I don't need the red cross and it's 61 days and nothing was happened right and finally just let me ask you I mean it's a difficult time for your family for more Israeli society to deal with that just maybe talk about that your feelings dealing the support you've received but we know there are some differences between policies by the Israeli government internally your message and your feelings about what's happening here in Israel in relation to the hostages I know it's a difficult issue it's a difficult issue for everyone in this society yes of course I don't think that there is any country in the world which face this kind of crazy situation that in the beginning about 250 people are getting kidnapped it's unbelievable so I think that in the beginning also the society everybody was shocked but in the last few weeks we got a very strong hug and support from all the from all the society from all the civil around us over here in Israel and also in some places abroad but unfortunately it's not enough we need my my kid I need my daughter to be at home I know she's getting wounded I know that based on the I know that she's in Hell now and the support is is good but it's not good enough to help Nama sure so this is what we need Nama and all the other young girls which is specifically under a very high risk to be bring home back and hold the hostages all the people which kidnapped need to be back home tomorrow it's hell over there right Thank you so much for joining us and sharing your feelings with us we know this is difficult and of course our deepest wishes here for the safer turn of Nama and of course all the hostages that are still being held thank you for joining us Thank you Richard after interviews like that I barely know what to say but you've been in situations I know in combat situations situations where people were taken in situations where the Red Cross specifically operated I'm going to assume you had some contact with them over the years in your military career maybe let's talk about how they're behaving in this situation and other groups that should be the voices of those people who are being those civilians those innocents who are being held hostage in Gaza and those voices are not being heard those voices that are specifically imagine what Johnny and his family is going through and of course Nama as well the hell as he described it they're going through it's incredibly disgusting really I think this situation has exposed the reality of many of these organizations that's supposed to be speaking out supposed to be taking action supposed to be that a lot of money goes into them to act in some decent way in this sort of situation but there's been too much silence particularly among groups that are supposed to be speaking out against rape and other sexual violence in war and the reason for it is very simple to understand and that is the decades long propaganda campaign against Israel that paints Israel as being an illegitimate country illegal occupiers stealing Palestinian land apartheid all of these things this totally false propaganda campaign there's been generated which leads these and these groups of course many of these different groups have been right behind all of that they've condemned Israel for abuse of women's rights for example when women enjoy by far the greatest rights and freedom anywhere in the Middle East in this country and so you even hear people from some of these groups saying well whatever happened to Israel it was terrible but they had it coming so we've had this massive propaganda campaign and these people can't get through it and they won't get through it and some of them have begun to spoke out reluctantly now we will not see very much of that unfortunately and the same applies to the condemnation of Israel for war crimes when it's acting within international law in all of its military operations because of this narrative that's generated by this decades long propaganda campaign Right, we're going to come back to this issue of the sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7th and afterwards we should note of course there were some bright spots last week with the return of the hostages some of them providing many stories of human interests we should say and one story involving even a non human and that's the story of Bella Bella is the shih tzu pet dog of 17 year old Maya Lemberg who was also taken hostage by Hamas on October 7th with her mother Gabriela as they were visiting a family in Kibbutz near Yitzhak now Bella was initially assumed to be missing or killed during the attack as many family pets were but incredibly Maya Lemberg emerged from her captivity she was one of the lucky ones clutching Bella in her arms having taken the dog with her into the Gaza Strip now in fact Maya has credited Bella's company for helping her survive her ordeal in Gaza es what she and her father had to say about that today it was difficult because all the journey to get there with her it was an extra four kilos a small cute puppy and I also we gave her our leftovers so she'll eat and she tried to walk around a place where we were kept and we had to make sure she doesn't be boring too much but overall she was a huge help to me and she kept me busy she was more moral support even though she didn't want to be but yeah and I'm just so happy that I managed to do this journey with her from what my daughter said she was worried that something would happen to the dog if she left her behind so what she did was she put her under her pajamas jacket when they got into the vehicle and they were driven out of the kibbutz and then they took them to tunnels and they went through the tunnels into Gaza and she had the dog with her the whole time and when they came out of the tunnel and they had to climb up a ladder that's when Hamas people noticed this was not a doll it was a living breathing dog and a bit of an argument ensued and it was decided to let her keep the dog instead of leave it behind in a bird cage and so she kept the dog with her well that was one of the more fortunate stories to have emerged but unfortunately many more much much much less so and as we've been discussing the issue of the sexual violence perpetrated by Hamas terrorists both in the October 7th attack and based on testimony we've heard subsequently as well has come to a fore in recent days because of that evidence from the freed hostages who bore personal eyewitness to some of these incidents as well as the emerging plethora of video and forensic evidence of these dog deeds now physicians for human rights an organization that usually directs its criticism against Israel did finally conclude in a report this week about October 7th that quote the violence perpetrated against women men and children also included widespread sexual and gender based crimes last night Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as we mentioned had this to say I say to the women's rights organizations to the human rights organizations you've heard of the rape of Israeli women horrible atrocities sexual mutilación where the hell are you I expect all civilized leaders, governments, nations to speak up against this atrocity Joining us now from your television is Yael Ashera she is the founder and director of the group survivors of sexual violence advocacy group she joins us now as I said just before this I conducted an interview with Yoni Levy the father of Nama Levy one of those especially I'm sure you've seen in the video and concerns about her let's talk about what these women must be going through I mean it's beyond almost anything imaginable even within the context of enduring sexual violence and abuse Comments specifically what's happening now in the Gaza Strip I don't feel we have enough information to say but from the information that we gathered here in Israel we can say that Hamas has already performed sexual violence and rape of women and men and the investigation is still on its way and the testimonies are very very difficult to listen to and gather Right and there is speculation or even beyond that we've heard official statements that some of those hostages those especially young women that may have endured this were not released in the recent round of hostage releases specifically so they couldn't provide testimony about what happened but there's plenty of other testimony from eyewitnesses that have emerged especially on October 7th let's talk about the response of women's groups not all I don't want to generalize but many I'm talking about those abroad that they have not spoken out or have belatedly spoken out or insufficiently spoken out on the very issue that they were created to address I'm very disappointed but not only with women's organizations as I said this has been conducted in Israel to both women and men and I expect every organization that deals with human rights I expect the UN to speak up and say clearly that this happened they have testimonies we have evidence of it we do have people that survived it few people both genders not a lot and I do expect the international community all organizations to come and defend us and stand by us here in Israel Right I want to ask you about how Israeli society should be reacting to it even as a journalist that's difficult for me I want to address this issue in the proper way it's an issue that has to be addressed it has to be made visible but it also has to be done in a way to honor and respect those prisoners men and women but also their families that we address to let me ask your guidance on that you've been involved in these cases you yourself personally in Israeli society including us in the media be even addressing this issue properly now I do think we need the police investigation to carry on I think the most important thing is to be based on evidence not to spread rumors or fake news not to violate the privacy of the victims both living and the deceased not to be harmful to point out at specific people and speculate on what they've gone through or spread rumors about them I think it needs to stop and I do believe the police investigation is the most important thing right now I wouldn't want to jeopardize it by saying anything that is not supposed to be publicized and I mean really it's time to let the victims feel to respect their privacy not to try and breach out to them they are being provided with everything the government has really taken really they want to approach these victims appropriately not to have bureaucracy or waiting lists they can have therapy if they feel that they are able to get it or want to get it it's going to be by experts in this field of sexual violence and I think we need to give them time the expectations of them to come forward to speak up to interview to soon what is the role for groups as yours and beyond the immediate treatment of the survivors themselves what is the role for those groups to carry on beyond that in the future my organization deals with policy and lawmaking and we've had a lot to do there is a lot of work with the government ministries with the Israeli parliament the Knesset and I myself I deal with health policy I specialize in the emergency care of rape victims the collection of evidence in these crimes and with the forensics science so I've been working with so many parts of the government I've been advising on so many issues to do with sexual violence unfortunately I've been needed and so that's what we've been doing since October 7th and we'll keep doing that to make sure that the survivors get what they need that the families get what they need and that this is not forgotten and that it doesn't happen again never again those words were never true then about this particular issue Yale Shearer founder director of survivors of sexual violence advocacy group thank you for joining us on i24 news thank you Richard you've been involved in some difficult battle grounds and battlefields with the issue of war crimes had to be addressed what about the issue by Hamas not just the one specific ones we've been talking about how should that be addressed either by Israel or if the international community if it will be at all I think it's gonna come down mainly to Israel those terrorists that they don't kill arresting them, capturing them and then putting them through some kind of legal process for their crimes I don't think we're gonna see any kind of international court dealing with it on the ICC the International Criminal Court have said they're opening an investigation that's why specifically why I'd ask they have said they're opening an investigation unfortunately the ICC historically has not been a body that has shown it's self sensitive to the situation in Israel in any way no, in my opinion it will focus its investigation as UN and other organizations do on Israel and try and get Israel into the dock for war crimes and they will probably say a few words about Hamas but not take any reelection even if they're in a position to do so there may not be there may not be any those people may not be able to be brought to justice because they're dead or because they managed to escape but I think the only hope of criminal justice being delivered in this case is if Israel does it itself right and I'm sure that will be the case moving forward though we're not yet yet but earlier you did mention that a lot of the failure of the international community or international bodies be it the ICC or some of these private groups we've been talking about progressive groups the reason that they've taken this posture since October 7th is because of the wave of anti-Israel incitement demonization hatred that we've seen for years and decades now of course Israel is fighting this war on several fronts and one of them being that battle for world public opinion we've just been discussing now faced with the onslaught of anti-israel propaganda many private groups have volunteered to aid the government in its public diplomacy efforts now one of those groups is Israel Spirit which was established after October 7th bringing together dozens of content and high tech experts from across Israel to try and create effective advocacy both in the mainstream and social media a correspondent Alicia Pira has more on that particular initiative around two months since October 7th the battle continues not only in the Middle East but also in other fields one of them is the field of advocacy here in this hub in central Tel Aviv dozens of volunteers gather to share their talents and abilities and to fight anti-israel propaganda which is on the increase our main goal is to make 80-90% of those who are chanting Free Palestine shout in favor of Israel most of the people who are shouting Free Palestine are not even Muslims they are the people who support Ukraine they also need to support Israel for 20 years Israel focused on Jewish communities while the BDS worked and made the story of Free Palestine a trendy and cool story the center is divided into several main wings a content wing which contains writers, producers directors and others who create posts, blogs and even videos we meet Paulina Petimer a photographer who joined to document the broken Gaza envelope communities Israel is a small country but I think it's a world thing we are 20% of the population and stuff that we are doing but we are actually so minor and we need to invest so much power and energy and budget and sources in order to spread our news the real facts and history so I think if we don't do we don't have anything else who can do for us so it's kind of every Israeli or person who feels that he connects to Israel has to do something in order to improve the perspective here is media training for Israeli politicians and officials what the world needs is they need people to explain it to them in their language and sometimes especially with Israel there is a language barrier and not just a language barrier there is a way of communicating things like for example Naftali Bennett on Sky News he did a fantastic job absolutely fantastic he really gave it to them he showed them and my British family was saying oh my god he's just destroyed everything he's done terribly and it's so funny because that's what I'm saying you need to be able to communicate in a way that for example the Americans will understand and take in and that's what I think Israel sadly misses the center also has a technology wing which develops new applications to people who work in human resources and other positions Sigalit and Amit are a mother and daughter who decided to join this center together I had the privilege to work with my daughter it's an opportunity that who knows when I'll have again my son is doing reserve military service so the situation here reflects Israeli society and its ability as we are about to leave we hear a siren and we wait to a safe place but the people of Israeli Spirit Advocacy Center continue to work updating information online and documenting their experiences Richard to be fair and I'm sort of picking as a journalist who's covered Israel for almost four decades now it's the government in this regard has made greater effort made advances in trying to make Israel's case to the world and there have been speakers they brought in Elon Levy used to be an anchor here at I-24 News being an example adopting him as a spokesperson the IDF spokesperson's office has been more effective in this conflict in getting information out much quicker maybe not quick enough but much quicker than it has in the past for example the bombing of the al-Ahia hospital situation but as someone who has spoken out on behalf of Israel or the truth maybe I should say just about the truth of Israel in media sometimes hostile media in public forms what is your sense about how Israel has conducted either privately or publicly this public diplomacy efforts during this conflict I think the Israeli efforts have consistently been quite good and they're constantly criticised the IDF the Israeli government constantly criticised for not doing it well enough the hasperal the propaganda and I think in past years that was justified but let's not forget that they're up against a tremendous opposition this is a propaganda campaign that's been developed since the 1960s and just gained momentum since then but I do agree with you I think it's been distinct improvements of course what we must not forget is that while Hamas can claim that the IDF bombed the al-Ahli hospital the IDF it doesn't matter what they say whether it's true or not the IDF have to make sure that any statement they're going to put out is true and that does take time but I do think one thing I would like to see happen the Ukrainian war the war in Ukraine the western governments including the British government have given a huge amount of weaponry huge amount of money and the populations of our country have suffered enormously as a consequence of that because of that the British government and the same goes for other European governments and the US government have put a huge effort into explaining to their people why this is necessary and what I would like to see from governments that are friendly towards Israel is for those governments to do the same thing about Israel to explain the reality of Israel's situation and to try and influence the agenda the media agenda and the narrative about Israel they do not do that there is actually something of a discord let's take the UK your own country for example between the positions being taken by the government that at least certainly compared to past governments the feelings that we see in the streets of London and some of the other cities over the past weeks that have been not only anti Israel but in some cases pro Hamas there seems to be a discord between those I have not been in Britain since this war began I have been here in Israel but I have been watching closely what has been going on and the reality is it is a large number of people go on the streets the vast majority of British people in Israel in this fight and a fully supporting Israel but they are not necessarily being active about it I think the real problem that has to be faced Israel is going to be under fire all the time that has been the case since 1948 it will continue to be the case the real problem that should be addressed by our governments is the hate against Jews and the fear that Jews in our countries are in because of it the narrative in order to try and influence that alright, thank you for that Richard now let's go back to October 7 when the Israeli border police fought in more than 35 different locations killing an estimated number of 500 Hamas terrorists let's take a look at some of the fiercest battles that took place there in this report which is adapted from Israel's channel 12 news this body cam footage of a border policeman was taken at the Yad Mordecai intersection a half an hour after a series of missile alert sirens blasted across Israel on October 7 two months ago recently the border police conducted a preliminary investigation of all battles fought by their units the investigation revealed 37 fierce battles took place in different locations officers confronting Hamas terrorists and in particular the terror groups Nakba unit this map drawn as a part of the investigation follows the fighting trail showing combat zones spreading across all surrounding communities including Starrot, Ofakim and Netivot in these locations, the border police fighters eliminated more than 500 Hamas terrorists most of them from the Nakba unit who infiltrated the southern communities there were many of them from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south from the south ¿Dónde estás? ¡Zariz, zariz! ¿Quién está ahí? ¿Quién está ahí? ¿Está israelí? ¡Vamos, vamos! Además, la investigación reveló que los policías del Bordero rescuyeron a kilómetros de los residentes y los reveladores de la Festival Nova. Este video es de la cámara de la cámara de un policía del Bordero, una brigada táctica que rescuó los soldados de la Brigada Galani dentro de este APC en Cibat's near-aum. La cilucha de las cojas de los soldados es una cilucha de cero para que si no llegan y les muestran a ellos, les muestran a la bucha de todos los soldados. ¡Nifgata! ¡Nifgata! ¿Tienes que ir? ¡Soy el PD! ¿Tienes que ir? ¿Dónde has nifgata? ¡Soy el PD! ¿Soy el PD? ¡Soy el PD! ¡Soy el PD! ¡Soy el PD! ¡Soy el PD! ¡Soy el PD! ¡Soy el PD! ¡Soy el PD! Esto es solo un summario de la investigación inicial producida por la Policía de la Borda. La Policía de Israel todavía está conduciendo una investigación comprensiva e in-depth, las conclusiones de las cuales van a ser subidas a una comisión de inquietud que se expectará estar establecido después de la guerra. Y eso fue cómo la guerra comenzó. Espero que el final nos llevará una enclosura para esos eventos. En octubre 7, quiero agradecer a Bataquino Richard Kemp por ayudarnos aquí en este especial show de I-24. Y me gusta agradecer a los viewers por venir al final de este particular show como el día 61 de la guerra contra Hamas que nos trae una enclosura. Pero no olviden que estén con nosotros a Elie Halkomber para ver más de nuestra continuación de la guerra contra Hamas. Gracias por ayudarnos. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. En Israel, el head of the snake, el main focus de la IDF ahora es to cut it off. The battles on the ground in Hanyunas, the main Hamas bastion in the southern part of the Gaza Strip are at the core of the fight. It is both an operational objective and a symbolic one. Hamas leaders in the Strip Ychisinwar and Muhammad Def were born there and are believed to be hiding there. But as the remaining days of the intensive fighting are less than they were yesterday. A big question is hovering above. The bigger the expectation, perhaps the bigger the disappointment and not just that. The day after is closer to then than it was yesterday. But what it's going to look like still very vague. The only thing Israel is presenting at the moment is a must, is a security buffer zone. But if you need one, it means the threat on the other side still exists, doesn't it? So the Middle East is far from Alice's Wonderland but paraphrasing on Louis Carroll. If you don't know where you want to go, then it doesn't really matter which path you take. But before we unpack it all and take you live to the ground, here's the latest from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Last night I said that our forces can reach anywhere in the Gaza Strip. Now they are surrounding Sinwar's house. So his house is not his fortress and he can escape. But it's only a matter of time before we get to him. Secondly, we exert pressure to allow the Red Cross to visit our abductees. Further to that, I spoke again with the president of the Red Cross and told her to turn to Qatar which has been proven to have leverage over Hamas and demand that the Red Cross visits our hostages and of course to supply medicine to them. And we want to begin this broadcast on the northern border. I-24 News correspond to Zach Anders with the I-24 News team there on the ground. Zach, I wouldn't say slowly but surely, definitely not slowly. But Hisbales is maintaining the pressure if not upping it in recent days. It does seem like this is just a constant rolling boil that you don't get any relief. There's no moment of clarity here. There's no moment where it becomes obvious what's going to happen. It's just a constant hovering question mark that you can see above everyone's heads the people that haven't been evacuated. So many people have had to leave this area because they don't know when it will be safe to return. And today the Defense Minister Galant met with mayors and heads of council of these evacuated towns and told them that for the security situation to change and resolve in favor of bringing people back ending the evacuation notice that they would need to see Hezbollah and Hezbollah's reality returned to the 1701 agreement which came off the backs of the 2006 Lebanon war. It essentially puts Hezbollah above the Letani river several miles inland and creates a buffer zone where Hezbollah is not allowed to operate. This is an internationally recognized agreement but it has not been upheld. This has been violated over a decade and there is no real clear sign that in its current state that there is any meat on the bone so to speak to get Hezbollah to adhere to this agreement. So the question now becomes how do you make that the reality? Well the soldiers that you speak to here they point in the direction of that the offensive capabilities are here and it is possible to repel the number of fighters that Hezbollah has situated along the northern border but there is that is not to discount the international pressure that could be leveraged here to get the just simple fact of that agreement acknowledged and upheld and then everyone back to their corners. Well it seems that as we speak there are diplomatic efforts to reinforce exactly that with someone who brought some results in the past and the recent past between Israel and Lebanon almost Horstein said to be involved in this attempt to bring about a diplomatic solution to that. Zach Anders I-24 News correspondent on the Israel northern front thank you very much for your reporting today Zach. And from north we're heading south I-24 News senior correspondent Guy Israel Guy the security cabinet the war cabinet rather that was supposed to meet tomorrow convening tonight instead and what's on the agenda seems to be more fuel but Yeah Ali that is the demand of the Americans to triple the amount of fuel that goes into the Gaza Strip obviously that is a difficult pill to swallow for the Israeli government as it attempts at least to apply as much pressure as possible on Hamas and especially also with given the fact that we have wow that was quite a serious explosion heard right here in the city of Starot heavy shelling throughout the evening so the families of the Israeli hostages of course do not want to see increased aid going into Gaza nonetheless the Americans are required to do so eventually the Israeli government it seems would bend to that pressure as of course the idea of continues it's fighting across the Gaza Strip heavy heavy shelling yes we can hear it right now we are in next to the northern part of the Gaza Strip heavy fighting still going on in the neighborhood of Sajaira in Gaza City also in Jibalia both of them in the northern part of the Gaza Strip but most of the efforts right now are directed at Hanyunas that is the second largest city in the Gaza Strip as we heard from Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu the forces are there we also heard this evening from the head of the southern command of the IDF Yaron Finkelman pushing is urging his soldiers to push ahead we saw Division 98 that is the IDF command on special forces unit operating in Hanyunas from door to door attempting to get hold of Hamas strongholds killing terrorists closing terror tunnels shafts so much still for the IDF to do there as of course it attempts to apply as much pressure as possible on Hamas in order to bring about the release of the Israeli hostages and of course eliminate Hamas's military capabilities in the entire Strip as a whole and yet guy I do want to circle back to the issue of fuel because it's the first time we're seeing this new equation if you will for red cross access to the hostages and perhaps an indication that the fuel element is appealing enough let's put it that way is the fact that the red cross is said to be meeting the families of the remaining hostages tonight and again just to clarify it's not that any agreement is needed in order to grant access of the red cross to civilians who are being held captive and yet in this insane reality that's the case and again it's a new equation a new mechanism if you will to tackle this issue of the remaining hostages Absolutely so and although no agreement is needed for visiting Israeli hostages that was part of the initial hostage deal that we saw last week obviously Hamas as expected did not stand by its agreement what was agreed with the Americans with the Qataris no access was given to these Israeli hostages eventually now it seems according to that report on Israel's channel 12 that some access is finally being provided obviously this fuel is necessary both for the water in Gaza and also for the operation of the tunnels something that is very important for Hamas this is also the fuel that is being used to launch rockets at Israeli cities it should be mentioned as well At 24 News in a correspondent Guy Israel down south in the city of Sudirot thank you very much for this and we now want to welcome here in studio Lieutenant Colonel Doronovic Tan former commander of the special forces at the IDF Don Perry International Affairs Analyst thank you gentlemen very much for joining us Lieutenant Colonel Let's begin with what we're seeing on the ground we are hearing it clearly from Israeli leaders from the IDF spokesperson from the IDF chief of staff the goal is to apply more and more and more pressure on Iheh Sinwar and Hanyounis and yet no one is even raising the possibility of these actions on the ground to result in Hamas waving a white flag this is not the scenario that we are having we are not looking for white flags we are thinking of dismantling Hamas I think Hanyounis is the last stronghold the strongest left after Gaza after the other places in Gaza that we fighting it I think the campaign in Hanyounis surprisingly goes better than was expected much more faster than expected in terms of the timetables what would be the outcome whether we can catch those commanders of Hamas there in the tunnels whether we can find our hostages there it's yet to be seen but the campaign I think the feeling from the ground is a very good feeling I think the army got its confidence the intelligence is working the armies are in sync and the campaign has deployed some deco in the beginning which enabled a very fast movement from the north to the south with a very elite division the 98 division so I think in the meantime it looks good and in terms of this confidence I wouldn't say that there was fear but there was a lot of talk about how the ceasefire it feels like ages ago but it wasn't so long how will it impact the going back to fighting on the ground and this is something that you're saying that is resulting in better achievements underground than perhaps expected but Mr. Perry I do want to circle back to to what we've opened a broadcast with this targeting of Sinwar not undermining its importance whatsoever again both practical operational importance and symbolic one and yet is it the discourse surrounding it's creating too much hope false hope perhaps I mean can you really have too much hope because really just need a bit of hope the world needs some hope yeah look Hamas has deployed psychological pressure of every conceivable kind and this may be the case of the reverse out of most in wires in the house I doubt it very much putting pressure on his family it's not something isrogeneral generally claims it would do the whole thing strikes me as a bit of a misdirection but we shall see the jury's out on whether Hamas leaders fear for their own lives they clearly don't fear for the lives of their compatriots the Gaussian people I've seen mixed signals about the degree to which they are truly suicidal themselves I have to note that past efforts to solve the Hamas problem by killing senior people indeed the most senior people Rantisi Ahmadicín it didn't really decapitate Hamas but my favorite scenario because no one expects a white flag as you said is to put so much pressure on them that at the end of the day the thing that gives is a Beirut scenario with departure from Gaussian and in that regard direct pressure on the families of the leaders might help accelerate the coming of that day And speaking of direct pressure once again today we've heard the Israeli officials talking about the other way to release hostages not through negotiations but through operations underground we've seen one successful instance long weeks ago of Oryma Giddish this young Israeli female soldier and now we're hearing this is back on not that it ever was off the table but the talks around I get more prone it was never off the table in fact we created from the beginning from the offset a command that really utilized the special operation command center of the IDF under the command of Nitzan Alon an ex general that was a commander also the special forces and this was the main task he was very active in the negotiation that resulted in the release of hostages but for sure all the time the special forces are there with their capabilities the point is intelligence if there will be intelligence you might find us involved in some rescue operation and also you might find the troops negotiating on the ground this might be a possibility if you close an area you know that they are there there's some Hamas commanders and like any hostage taking scenario you can find negotiation and a possible rescue operation generated Hamas itself suggested not all hostages are in Hamas's hands whether you believe to that if you find them in a different location the question is all based on intelligence and presence of forces on the ground the special forces their capabilities and the readiness for those rescue operation is there you actually if I may do you believe Hamas's implausible deniability that they don't know where the hostages are that they have to negotiate with others who have a mind of their own it might be the case I'm not going with propaganda it might be the case yeah I would think the certain thing that they don't know I'm sure but I think they they prove to have some command in the previous exchanges their command over the prisoners very much so playing the list of names etc. those who are some hostages who are said to been killed that were released but in the mess in which Gaza is right now and you don't know what kind of communication works and in what fashion they might be they are also there in terms of the hostages it's a scenario that we have to take into account for sure but in terms of Hamas's leaders to control this trip for better or worse it seems that they maintain satisfactory level of control let's put it that way but let's do address the other route of action when it comes to hostage release Mr. Dan Perry the no negotiations at the moment is also part of negotiations dynamic as counterintuitive as it may sound and walking out of the negotiations is also a negotiation tactic what opportunity can come out of this crisis at the end of the day I am assuming Hamas controls most of the hostages it's very sadly roughly up to them at the end of the day I had expected that the rate card will change from three to one en terms of the number of people released at ten a day to less than a day and so forth as they buy more time I tend to think that the resumption of fighting and everyone walking away from the table on the hostage issue is part of the friction between phase one and phase two and eventually if Hamas really wants to buy more time they'll make an offer that Israel have to address the thing is that we all know that this offer that Israel eventually have to address is going to be very difficult to stomach but it's a Hamas offer that needs to come and be addressed that there's no other direction they're not ready yet maybe a bit more pressure and eventually they will be ready precisely as it took them three weeks three weeks or so to become ready for phase one it's interesting with the 82 scenario the PLO scenario is possible I was a veteran of this war I was on the roof with the PLO guys were climbing on the boats to Tunisia whether this is a scenario who would like to have the Hamas it almost seems unfair to the PLO there's so much nicer than a Hamas yeah exactly strange to think in those terms right now but yes yeah and this and fighting on the Palestinian side is perhaps making a comeback we do hear some harsh exchanges between Fatah officials and Hamas officials but we'll put that aside and maybe get back to it later on because now with all the respected strategy and tactics we want to shift the focus back to the people 60-80 World Role Kaplun is presumed captive in Gaza and we want to welcome now a Role's daughter Mayan Kaplun Kedar thank you very much Mayan for speaking with us tonight I know it's not easy to relive those moments with every interview those past 61 days how are you not good I don't know it's the hardest question these days yeah yeah it's impossible to be in this situation of an uncertainty of not knowing and to that point what do you know when was the last time you you got any indication on your father's well-being on his whereabouts we do know that some of the hostages that were released provided some information on those who were left behind any word on your dad unfortunately we didn't hear anything from the release of the hostages the only thing we have basically is the videos that we got from Hamas Telegram from the day of the October 7th the first one of him being captured captured and the second of him laying on the ground we know that everybody that was with him that day walking and being captured first of all his wife and his neighbors you can see the videos all were murdered and we know that he was wounded in the head probably but we don't know the severity we don't know his condition and we are worried sick and tonight there are reports that perhaps the Red Cross will finally be given access to the hostages and a guy that is a glimmer of hope maybe I hope this is one of the prayers I ask from the beginning of this war to understand to get some indication if he is alive if he is taken care of or God forbid he is dead and I beg for some certainty because not knowing is the hardest thing for us right now yeah and to that point last night a difficult meeting of the war cabinet members with the families of the hostages many questions were raised but from what we hear not many answers given what can you tell us it was very very difficult meeting one of the hardest days from those entire 61 days many many people are went through the edge they cannot consume all of this anymore and to that point there are a lot of barging in the conversation everyone wants to be heard obviously there is a will for the government to do something active towards releasing the captivities we hear a lot of stuff that we are waiting to get some offers from Hamas and some of us some of the families feel that we need to be more active and I think that was a little bit frustrating because not all the people agree but I think it's mostly all the tension and all the stress of being in this situation for two months absolutely inconceivable reality you've been living in the past 61 days my name is Kaplan Kedal we do hope that all those tensions will be over soon and your father similarly to the rest of the remaining hostages will be back here with us as soon as possible thank you very much for speaking with us keep on going good things are coming and now circling going back to October 7 when Israel's border police units fought in more than 35 locations at the same time eliminating an estimated number of 500 Hamas heirs this next reporter brings details and videos from the fierce battles daylight this body cam footage of a border policeman was taken at the Yad Mordecai intersection a half an hour after a series of missile alert sirens blasted across Israel on October 7 two months ago recently the border police conducted a preliminary investigation of all battles fought by their units the investigation revealed 37 fierce battles took place in different locations officers confronting Hamas terrorists and in particular the terror groups Nakba unit this map drawn as a part of the investigation follows the fighting trail showing combat zones spreading across all surrounding communities including Sterot, Ofakim, and Netivot ... ... ... En estos sitios the border police fighters eliminated more than 500 Hamas terrorists de la unidad de Nacba que infiltró las comunidades del sur. La policía capturó a docentes de terroristas y los llevaron a la Bautista de Shin Bet, a la unidad de IDF 504, y a la unidad de interrogación de la policía. Interrogaciones que hundieron la inteligencia de cualidad, adentro de los maneuvers de IDF dentro del Gaza Strip. Además, la investigación reveló que los policías de la Bautista de la Unidad rescuyeron a docentes de residentes locales y los reveladores de la Festival Nova. Este video es de una cámara de la Bautista de la Unidad, una brigada táctica que rescuye a los soldados de la Bautista de Gala, que se encarga dentro de este APC en Kibbutz, cerca de Alm. Los policías de la Bautista de la Unidad tienen el poder de entender que, si no llegan y no han venido a Alm, se van a despegar de allí. ¡Quieres un brazo y estamos de vuelta! En el 24, Israel bajo el ataque. En el 24, en español, trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas de reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. En el 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. En el 24, únicamente en I24 News. Gracias por estar con nosotros, a la verdad y a la broma. Los hechos de Releasing more Israeli Hossages de la homascaptividad son, en general, una mediativa de guitarra, y una mediativa de frutales. 6 hechos de los ucranianos, tomados por Rusia, son reunidos con sus familias después de la involvement de Katari, en otra fase, en la lettera de Katari para la promesa global, porque puede tener mucho que decir, pero es difícil de combinar con los resultados concretos que los Kataris están produciendo en el momento. ¿Puedes, Cata, realmente tener la ropa y comerla también? Queremos ir ahora a Dr. Nasir Elamari, escritor y comentador político, acompañando eso desde New York. Gracias a Dr. Elamari, por tu tiempo de noche. Bueno, la ropa de mediativa puede, en el caso de Katari, estamos hablando de una manera muy rara, y no simplemente pasando en mensajes de una parte a la otra, pero siendo muy, muy proactiva. Sí, son muy proactivas, y me gusta decirlo, pero juegan una ropa doble en el conflicto en Gaza. Tras el Jazeera, se han dado la propaganda que se ha sponsorizado por Hamas y Irán, y es peligroso, y creo que juega una ropa crítica en lo que pasa en el grado. A la otra mano, todo el mundo quiere plazar los Kataris, tienen mucho dinero, tienen energía, y, como podemos ver, incluso los russianos están intentando plazar los Kataris y ayudarlos a negociar entre ellos y los ucranianos. Entonces, todo el mundo quiere plazar a estos líderes del golf, porque tienen muchas recursos, y ahora el señor Putin, ha dado la tiempo de la guerra para visitar los Emiratos de la Unidad y la Arabia de Saudi Arabia, y para darles a estos países para moverlos de su alimón con los Estados Unidos. Antes de hablar más de Putin, un visito fascinante en el golf, estás ilustrando la clauza, pero ¿cómo ha podido llegar a esta posición, de la mediación del golf? ¿Qué es el alimón? ¿Tienes solo recursos, solo dinero? ¿Esto es lo que estamos hablando de? Son recursos de dinero, y han pasado a ser un ally de los Estados Unidos. Están mediados entre los Estados Unidos y los afganes. Durante el U.S., se detienen de Afganistán. Están mediados entre los Estados Unidos y los Iranianos. So, Qatar tiene un rol muy importante. Se presenta como un mediador, como un neutral. Cuando en realidad no es. Se convirtió en el conflicto Syrianiano. Se convirtió hoy en la propaganda, el Hamas-Irania propaganda, sorprendiendo el conflicto de Gaza. So, Qatar plays a very masterful role, and I think everybody's paying attention, including the Europeans and now Mr. Putin and the Arab leaders, too. Yes, so it seems to be a very efficient mechanism to engage in self-whitewashing internationally, disposition of mediator, but how is Qatar going to utilize this rising political club that is gaining with its mediation efforts and achievements? What's the goal here? Well, the goal, they are afraid of the Saudi influence. They don't want to be observed by the Saudi crown prince, who went as far as laying a siege to Qatar. They want to be close to the Americans. They want to show that they have real value. And Ahmed Bin Salman is also trying to play the same role, so they are competing here for position, they are competing for clout and power, and they have done it successfully because they can. And they have the resources to finance Al Jazeera, to finance their diplomacy, and they're doing a great job, actually, in appearing to be a great power in the region. Sí, un crédito, creando un problema, sólo que se emerge su solver. Y a veces, solo haces cosas porque puedes, aparentemente. Dr. Naseel Lomar, escritor y comentador político, muchas gracias, señor, por tu tiempo. En el estudio, el señor Dan Perry, como mencionó, el putón está aquí en el Middle East, en el golfo. Una primera visita a un país que no está en contra de Rusia y que ha sido arrastrado por la ISC. Y creo que no es coincidente que la decisión se ha encontrado. Tal vez está cansado de estar en Moscú. No, es el winter. Es fascinante, no sabemos por qué está ahí. Pero, como el reporte dijo, como el otro interviewee, parece que está intentando arrastrarlos de sus límites con Estados Unidos, también intentando mostrar que todavía tienen clout. En una parte del mundo que los Estados Unidos no se ha encontrado, ahora se está arrastrando con Irán. Irán es, quizás, el maestro de la publicidad con este conflicto. Así que, si puede ponerse en una posición de ser en alguna forma o forma o, al menos, impresionante, algún tipo de mediador, algún tipo de semisimilitario, una fuerza positiva en el mundo, no es un win, porque ahora mismo se ha convertido en un juego completo en total paraya, segundo solo a Hitler en el pasado. Y creo que él está realmente mirando a una manera... Cáter ha hablado de whitewashing, en un sentido, Putin está buscando a whitewash él, quizás. En una forma, él habla de un posible incendio contra el juego en Nengue y Yucraín, si quieres ser creativo de sus motivaciones posibles. Bueno, vamos a continuar. Estaba activa en el relicio de algunos hostes. Sí, sí. En su demanda, en su demanda de Cáter, por lo tanto, también tiene Al Jazeera, una media supuestamente frea, que hace que... Es como en este muy conflicto, en la dinámica de este conflicto. Y, como la guerra está aún afuera, el U.S. ha anunciado que se impone las bandas de viajes extremistas, que fueron involucradas en ataques a los palestinianos en el West Bank. No hay nombre específico en este... No hay lista, pero el U.S. Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, ha anunciado y ha dicho que están vinculando. Aparte de lo que significa exactamente, la pregunta más importante, tal vez, ¿pueden hacer alguna diferencia? Y queremos que hagan ahora a Dr. Michael Oren, former Israeli Ambassador a la U.S. y el deputado israelí. Dr. Oren, muchas gracias. Muchas gracias por ayudarnos a esta noche. ¿Qué haces de este anuncio en este punto en el tiempo específico, por supuesto? Muchísimas gracias. Bueno, hay varios puntos sobre esto. Primero, el Estado tiene el derecho a determinar quién va a entrar en las bandas, quién no va a entrar en las bandas. Israel ha tenido una contraversión. Algunos años atrás decían que las bandas de BDS no podían entrar en este país. Se han quedado un par de miembros de la Congressa de venir a este país. So, América tiene el derecho. Pero hay varios aspectos adecuados a este anuncio, uno, usando el nombre de Settler, porque esto es un elemento frío, y esto es una gran populación que tiene la ley abatida, y esta populación no es tan pequeña. Y se tendrán a incriminar en todas las comunidades jewes de Judea y Samaria, que es una decisión muy infuente. Seguramente, ¿cómo determinar quién va a entrar en el anuncio, y si la gente tiene un recorrido de policía, no tiene un recorrido de policía, ¿es los observantes americanos con tablas en estas bandas que están convirtiendo actos de violencia contra la Policía de Palestine? No sé exactamente cómo eso funciona. Creo que más a la punto que esto es un mensaje político. La administración de la Comunidad está pagando un precio muy alto para el apoyo de Israel en el conflicto de Gaza. Está buscando formas para que apese a su base progresivo. Y esta es una medida que se está tomando. También está hablando de poner un gran beneficio en las casultades de la Policía de Palestine que Israel está causando inmediatamente en la guerra de Gaza. Esto todo tiene que ver con la política interna, o es una jornada senadora de la Unidad de Estados Unidos que me dice que no es sobre Gaza más, es sobre la prisión. Y... Retirando a la tierra aquí, con todo el respeto a Michigan, obviamente tiene un gran impacto en lo que está sucediendo aquí, en el Oeste Medio, ¿deja de mover este anuncio de esta bandera? ¿Tiene potencial para cambiar las cosas en la tierra para lo mejor? Creo que hay un mensaje para el gobierno, también sobre los extremeños en ese gobierno que apoyan este tipo de violencia. Y es importante aportar que esta violencia causa estrategia a Israel. Es asesorado. Es constricto el tiempo y el espacio que la IDF necesita competir. Es una misión crucial. Y eso debería ser el fócus de Israel solo eso. Dr. Oren, el Consejo de Seguridad de la Seguridad, John Kirby, ha hecho una distinción mucho necesaria entre una firma permanente que escuchamos muchas causas para procurar. Y el paus humanitario, como él lo pone, apoyando la letra, definitivamente no es el primero. Y parece que, en general, hay esta impresión en Washington que Israel es al menos intentando seguir con los deseos de la administración. Creo que sí. Y, en realidad, Blinken, durante su última visita aquí, lo que antes de Israel fue un desafío difícil para expedir la operación y cortar la cantidad de cala de palestinía. Claramente, si expedimos la operación, probablemente causar más cala de palestinía. Es para irse y ser consciente y intentar a lo más alto para asegurar que las civilizaciones están fuera de las zonas de la batalla que están abiertas por SMS, textos de mensajes, por la lucha, para que siga de ahí. No creo que la administración nos gustaría irse a estas zonas y no esperar para las civilizaciones de palestinía para salir de la batalla. Pero, no lo he dicho, creo que hay un buen momento para la IDF en Gaza ahora mismo. Y vamos a tener que acceder a este crítico. Voy a ir a muchos programas europeos en televisión. Y eso, la palabra Hamas casi no viene más. Es todo sobre los cargos que Israel liberamente arreglan a civilizaciones de palestinía. Y hay que explicar lo mejor que puede, es que eso no hace sentido. Porque, seguramente, moralmente, no es en Israel el interés de causar a civilizaciones de palestinía, pero estrategicamente, el mayor número de civilizaciones de palestinía y civilizaciones de palestinía es el mayor de la presión de Israel para un incendio a un incendio. Y el incendio significa que Hamas se saldrá de la batalla de la batalla. Y significa que los cuantos en el estado de Israel no van a ser inhabitable. Así que, ¿por qué? Logicamente, al menos que empieces a la gente a ver si hay algún tipo de incendio. ¿Por qué Israel quiere incrementar el número de palestinía? Bueno, creo que es una combinación saludable de short term memory y long lasting prejudice. Dr. Michael Orrin, former Israeli ambassador a la U.S., deputado de Israel, ministro. Muchas gracias para esto. We appreciate your time and insight. Always, Dr. Orrin. Thank you. Back here in studio. Not that we want to get to that point and obviously everything will be done in order to avoid that point. But officials in Washington are talking about a couple of weeks of operational leeway for Israel. What happens then? What does no American support look like? I don't think we will get to a position or to a moment in the battle with no American support. I think we work with the Americans. We're so blinking in the work cabinet. So the question is negotiating back and forth the moves in the war. So now we're in a phase, I think it's the third phase of the war basically. And it will end sometimes. I hope in a few weeks. I hope before Christmas for the Americans. Yeah. And then there will be the other phase. Now the question whether it would end with some exchange deal, whether it would end with some ceasefire. Of course we can't accept no term that means the end of the war because the war might continue to different phases. And after Hamas is eradicated, hopefully, or as most of his capabilities and the hostages are back, hopefully, which looks a little bit far in the future, then we have to think of the new phase of Gaza. Yeah, it's quite ironic that a war between a slumist fundamentalism and Jews is dictated by the Christian calendar. But it seems to be the case. And we're staying in the U.S. because we can use a whole lot of words to describe the congressional hearing on anti-Semitism and elite American campuses. But there are not a lot of words needed, really. Bottom line for university chiefs calling for the genocide of Jews is A, OK. Take a listen. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Penn's rules or code of conduct? Yes or no? If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment. I am asking specifically calling for the genocide of Jews. Does that constitute bullying or harassment? If it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment. So the answer is yes. It is a context-dependent decision, Congresswoman. It's a context-dependent decision. That's your testimony today. Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context. That is not bullying or harassment. This is the easiest question to answer. Yes, Ms. McGill. If the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment. Conduct meaning committing the act of genocide? One of those university presidents who refused to condemn calls for genocide against Jews was Harvard president Claudine Gay. But after a public backlash at almost 24 hours after refusing to do so in Congress, she has now released the following statement. You'll meet the judges of that. There are some confused rights to free expression with the idea that Harvard will condone calls for violence against Jewish students. Let me be clear, calls for violence or genocide against the Jewish community. Any religious or ethnic groups are vile. They have no place at Harvard, and those who threaten our Jewish students will be held to account. All right. I-24 News, senior U.S. correspondent. Mike Wagenheim joining us from New York. Now, Mike, there were, there are many chilling moments in those past two months. I must admit this, albeit not graphic, is horrifying. The statement that President Gay released a few hours ago when she refers to the confusion. As if the confusion is on the outside and the confusion wasn't generated from her own mouth yesterday in Congress is just an example of the gaslighting that Jewish students have to face here in America on college campuses, extending now to high school and even elementary schools, especially here in New York, we've seen incidents lately. It's just unbelievable the lack of responsibility that these folks will take, and it goes beyond that. We heard a lot, Ellie, of a lawyerly talk yesterday, not much moral clarity, not much leadership. A lot of lawyerly talk, because in the end, if you get fired, you want to make sure legally your behind is covered. So we heard a lot of mentions of case law, of the First Amendment protecting you, accepting cases of bullying, pervasive harassment. This is case law, this has come out of the courts, this has not come out of people within leadership positions on college campuses. The First Amendment here in America is, rightfully so, very cherished, the government can make no law that abridges your right to free speech, and the courts have held that that right filters on through to public institutions. You don't lose that right just because you're in school, whether it's in college, high school, wherever. But the courts have found that if you're disrupting a school activity or the operations of a school, if you are doing other things to violate school policies, regardless of the particular message that you're espousing, the First Amendment doesn't protect you. I'll give you an example here, Ellie. I'm guilty every now and again of using the middle finger out of anger. That's protected here. You can use it, there's no crime against it, even to a police officer. There was a recent Court of Appeals decision that found that you could flip the bird to a police officer here. He can't charge you or she with anything, not a crime. Now try doing that on a college campus, try walking up to your professor and you didn't get the grade you liked and flipping them the bird and see if they can't find something in the student code of conduct to bring you up on and discipline you on. You're telling me people have free reign to flip off their school professor? It's nonsense what these university presidents were espousing yesterday that they can't find anything within their policies that would call for discipline for students calling for the genocide of Jews. It's ridiculous. And one can only imagine a protest in one of those campuses calling to restore slavery, God forbid, or wipe out the LGBT community in no other circumstance. Would we have been facing that? And yet, Mike, speaking to that point of no moral, yes, lawyerly type of statements, I want you to take us, to take a listener to an analysis by our very own at 24 News Senior Diplomatic Correspondent. An alderman saying, even though the blood es boiling listening to it, the university heads are not lawyerly wrong. Let's put it that way, let's listen. Yeah, an opinion that I think a lot of people are not going to like. But, Sarah, at the end of the day, those university presidents are largely right. I mean, listen, obviously physical violence of any kind is completely out of bounds and they said that themselves. And there are certain expressions, right? And you talked about them in your lead about gassing the Jews and so forth, which I think might be considered over the line, but even there. Look, there are a lot of phrases being used, like from the river to the sea and globalize the Intifada and even others, which have ambiguity in them. And it's an ambiguity that frightens Jewish students. That is, I think fair to say, as we heard from the president of Penn, is hateful speech. But at the end of the day, ambiguity in a climate like the United States, particularly universities where we have to preserve freedom of expression, and in my opinion, even at private universities, should be preserved to the outer bounds of the First Amendment. Ambiguity has to be resolved in favor of allowing the speech. Well, Mike, before I ask you, if there are any teeth to this congressional hearing, as in a way to say any action, Mr. Dan Perry here with us in studio, what do you think, what is more dangerous? Policing free speech or not policing it at all? Is that even a discussion? No, it's not a discussion. The issue is that these universities have a duty. They're duty bound to be beacon of light and of reasonability. The lawyerly aspect of the presentation is a disgrace. I'm an alumni of Penn. I know the motto of the university, and it is this. Laws without morality are vain. They have a duty to be moral. And instead of morality, what we see here is a complete and total abdication. Look, back when I went to Penn, 30, some years ago, it was a bastion of liberalism as what were MIT and Harvard, and a beacon of humanity. And right now, because of the progressive revolution, it's become a bastion of liberalism and we see that they struggle mightily with humanity. We disaffiliated from Penn, the Penn Alumni Club of Israel, on which I am on the board about a month ago, over a month ago. And I was on offense about that decision. And as I watched President McGill and her disgraceful performance before Congress, I become a lot less on the fence. Yeah. Mike, so what is next? Any action to follow or just those unforgettable remarks? Let's put it that way. I think what it showed, I think there was an opportunity yesterday for those particular college presidents. By the way, in fairness, don't represent all college presidents. Obviously, they represent some pretty high names. There was an opportunity for them to set the tone and say we can handle this problem o at least give us the chance to handle this problem internally within our own campuses administratively. That was the opportunity that was put in front of them by Congress yesterday. They failed miserably. And so where does it go from here? I think it's going to take action at the federal level. There's already investigations underway into several of those universities for violations of civil rights under several different acts, including the Education Act, for essentially allowing a pervasive environment in which Jewish students fear for their safety in which they can't take active part in campus life. I think the Biden administration here in Congress are going to have to kind of seize this and run with it and make sure that it's handled at a governmental level, whether it involves the revocation of public funds which don't apply to those private universities or other sanctions. It simply can't be entrusted at least to those three particular so-called leaders that were in front of Congress yesterday. Context for rape of Jewish women. Context for the calls to eliminate Jews. Context, so crucial when it comes to the Jews, apparently. Mike Wagenheim, my 24 News, a senior U.S. correspondent. Thank you very much for this. Dan Perry, I would carefully say the silver lining here, the Republican rep, Elise Stefanik, who handled this cross-interrogation eloquently. And the voice of reason in this instance, for sure not easy for many liberals to find themselves siding on that side of the divide. Let's put it that way. But they don't. The liberals in America find themselves in quite a pickle. You don't think that many liberal Democrats who watch this congressional hearing... No, they sided with the Republican questioner. Because in America today, you do not have a left and a right. You have a conservative right. You have a progressive left and you have the liberals who are in the middle. The liberals do not agree with the progressive movement on almost anything. And if the Trumpist right in America were not as horrible as it is, they would be moving in droves at the Republican Party. Yeah, but Stefanik, it's said to be personally not familiar with her political career. She's the youngest, crongest woman, very impressive. But she said to be a Trump loyalist and likely to play a role in it. That's why I say they're in a pickle. Because the Trumpist right is more pro-Israel than the progressive left. But that doesn't really taint the Democratic Party in a way that many Israelis would think, because most Democrats are not yet progressive. Only about a sixth of Americans subscribe to the point of view that is represented by these university presidents. This is the issue. It's still a minority. Most Americans support Israel in this conflict. Most young Americans, half of them don't. And that is what you're seeing at the universities. Universities should be helping to fix this problem. Instead, because in the end they're led by adults and not by the kids. Instead, they're succumbing to it. And that is why you see what you see from the university presidents. So, as Mike said, even if we are to see federal steps, it might not have direct implications on those private universities what do you foresee? Well, what's going to happen is there... Back when I went to Penn, it was 40% Jewish. Now maybe a third of that and falling. A lot of the funding comes from Jews. The Jews are going to pull the funding. Jews are going to apply in lesser numbers at these universities. And of course, the shortfall may be made up by the likes of Qatar. So, you're seeing a generational shift. This is exactly what I wanted to say. We started this part of the broadcast with Qatari money. We're ending it with Qatari money. Yeah, with Qatari money. The flip side of that. Colonel Elton, Colonel Italia. Surprisingly enough, how blind they are to the context in which the question was asked. If talking about context, in this context, it should have said by our position, it's definitely against the statement. The easiest, yes or no. It's very strange. So, that's... They didn't want to offend the students. Exactly. It's an amazing... And that is an abdication of one's roles as an educator at the end of the day. Well, I wouldn't want to offend you, so I will thank you very much. I would then carry forth joining as Lieutenant Colonel Elvital Yursteng with us a quick break and we continue our coverage day 61 of the war here in Israel that far exceeds the geographical borders of it back in a few. Viva Israel. Custom-made men's fashion to your measurements. Made for Me, designer of all your events. Schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il. Made for Me, official dresser of I-24 News. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Back to this special broadcast here in I-24 News, day 61 of the war here in Israel and we want to head straight back to the south to the southern city of Sderot, what is left of it at this point in time. I-24 News, a senior correspondent guy Israel, standing by the I-24 News team all day long. Guy, a day of intense fighting in the Gaza Strip with the main target, clear cut, Hanouness. Yes, we're now in the city of Ashdod and yes throughout the day we've spent in Sderot listening to the heavy fighting there on the border, both IDF-shelling, fighter jets, helicopters, even heard a live fire throughout the day. That was in the northern part of the Gaza Strip where the IDF is still operating in the neighborhood of Sajaira and also in Jibalia. But yes, all eyes are on Hanouness that is the main goal of the Israeli military right now, a major city, the second largest city in Gaza, a major stronghold of Hamas and this evening soldiers of the 98 division, including commando soldiers and special units are operating inside the city, walking from home to home, searching for those Hamas terrorists, as we heard from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The forces are surrounding the house of Hamas leader Ihe Sinwar, an IDF spokesman confirming that he is not expected to be in that house, of course, but nonetheless, both him and Mohamed Effa believed to be in the area of Hanouness, in any case the IDF is closing in on these major commanders of Hamas trying to apply as much pressure as possible on this terror group with the goal of eliminating it altogether, but also attempting to reach a better deal for the release of Israeli hostages. We saw over 70 of them released under the deal last week and now if Israel wants to get more Israeli hostages back alive, they need to apply more pressure on Hamas. This is the goal right now and the IDF troops are there, those very brave fighters on the streets of Hanouness, no es fácil de sorprender. Es un terreno muy diferente de la ciudad de Gaza, y esta es la operación en este momento. En varios lugares, a través del Gaza Strip, militares de los tropes israelíos están operando en esta época. Sí, y el chico, has mencionado que la sensación de la presión militar va a mejorar las posibilidades de lanzar los permanentes 137 hostages y a ese punto, o a la sidra de eso, la cadena de seguridad es convenida hoy para comprobar lo que entendemos, es una nueva forma de formular en la que el fuel que entra al strip va a subir gradualmente en exchange para el acceso, finalmente, el acceso de la cruz de la red a los permanentes hostages. Sí, el fuel es de alta demanda para Hamas, tanto para ventilar sus toneladas, también para la supplya de agua, y, por supuesto, para el fuego de los ruidos, como para el relicio de los hostages y para el acceso de la cruz de la red, pues, por supuesto, también fue parte de esa actividad la semana pasada, donde Hamas no cumplía su actividad. El esfuerzo ahora, para llevar ese fuel, es principalmente por la presión americana. Israel necesita el apoyo americano, por supuesto, para continuar la pelea durante el strip de Gaza, la pelea que esperaba a más de muchas semanas, tal vez, incluso meses, y, al mismo tiempo, la idea del gobierno de Israel es demandar los visitantes de la cruz de la red, si el grupo de Hamas eventualmente le permite eso. La única vez que le damos, para ahora, no ha dado ningún acceso y no ha dicho nada sobre el bienestar de los 237 hostages israelíos, aún siendo llevados por la cruz de la cruz de la cruz de la red, en terratunel y en otros lugares, muchos de ellos en el necesito de medicina urgente, que no estén llegando, muy triste. A los 24 noticias, senora, por supuesto, los de Israel. Muchas gracias a vosotros en tu reportaje. Hoy, aquí en el estudio con el teniente colonel Adoron Avital, el teniente colonel Avital, antes del broadcast, hablamos de la nueva política anunciada de los Estados Unidos, de la banca extremista, que fueron engañados en violencia contra los palestinos en el West Bank, de ser garantizados en la visita, y ahora, como hablamos de Belgrin, es anunciado lo mismo. ¿Cómo es que juega en el esquema más grande en el mundo? El West Bank ya es una pata boilada. Creo que es un signo político. La significación es más política. Creo que es más importante que un signo político. El signo político puede ayudarnos porque realmente queremos mantener el West Bank calmo. Tenemos problemas con los extremistas que hacen los rayos. Y estamos intentando contenerlos, por supuesto, pero la situación en este aspecto no es fácil. Por supuesto, no queremos brindar la población en el West Bank. Por supuesto. Todo el mundo es muy adecuado sobre hacer esta distinción que hablamos de mi... French. French. French groups. Let's hope. Pero creo que es un signo que tenemos que tomar en cuenta y pensar seriosamente cómo contener esos niños y los problemas que se inflictan en la situación en el West Bank. Ellos realmente take much of the energy of the army trying also to... Y a ese punto, as again all officials are vowing to address all of this. Once the war is over, but if we're talking about the notions of the threats that are more prevailing before October 7th on October 6th, the West Bank took a lot of resources and attention. A mini war taking place in the West Bank for a year or so before this took our attention from Gaza and other fronts, but right now we want to contain the West Bank, we want to make sure that it's calm as possible, as fewer terrorist attacks generated from the West Bank though we had this terrible terror attack in the entry to Jerusalem. We have the problem in the northern Samaria, a problem in Chavron. It's not an easy task, the West Bank, and we want to contain it and to keep it calm as possible. And every single day, every single night, the IDF is operating there to make sure that we will be talking about what's happening in the south and not about what's happening there, not because there is no desire, but simply because this desire is foiled. But Lieutenant Colonel Avataradouan has to jump back up to the north because again there are these reports tonight that Amos Hastin, the White House official, who mediated the maritime agreement between Lebanon and Israel not so long ago, is now engaged in efforts to finalize a ground agreement, rather that will illustrate a new the borders between the countries. And yet we're talking about Lebanon and Israel. We're not talking about Hezbollah. Of course. Hezbollah doesn't have to comply with whatever decision that will be made. Of course, I mean, this is the diplomatic campaign where we got to the 1701, the UN resolution of 2006. This is a good point of reference for us because we would need this buffer zone for our citizens to come back to the north. And I think even Gallant came with a very strong declaration that nobody would come back unless Hezbollah is withdrawing to this line, the Litani line. Could this be, could such achievement be made only by diplomatic campaign? I'm not sure. But I would say the following. Even if in the end we'll finalize a military campaign, we have to start with a diplomatic campaign. We don't want to start a full-blown war in Lebanon without any diplomatic campaign that precedes it and maybe gives some result. Or, if not, give us the reason, the excuse to go into... The Casus Belly. The Casus Belly to go into a campaign in the north. A group we, if you had to discuss tonight, El Tente, Colonel Avital, perhaps, because it is not so much an Israeli problem but an American problem. And I've said it on our broadcast before, perhaps the only ones who are putting their money where their mouth is, the Houtis that are creating havoc. This is a new intervention. In the meantime, our defense mechanism and the U.S. defense mechanism works very well and proves itself against their mises and so on, but they do this havoc on the seas with all those cargo ships. Of course, it creates a havoc, also economical havoc for... All around the world. Of course, of course. And I think right now, and the Americans have said that they would work out when and how to react. We've seen a few things in Sana'a. There's no way to assign them to us or to the U.S. I think the Houtis is a problem that would be taken care of. I wouldn't say this is our greatest problem right now. What we want is to keep the Hezbollah out of the war. We want the West Bank calm. But this is a general problem that goes back to the Biden initiative, this corridor that starts from India into Saudi Arabia. And they are over there trying to derail the process. Global trade routes. Just destabilizing the entire world. I think Napoleon said the Indian Ocean is the key to the world geopolitics of the Indian Ocean. Sí, la Genghis Khan. Sí, la Genghis Khan. Podríamos reinventar la política o pensamos así. Pero no haremos reinventar la geopolítica, la geografía. Lo siento, Colonel La Vittal, antes de que nos vayamos bien. Y muchas gracias por tu tiempo con nosotros hoy. ¿Qué haremos para ver este mes? Estamos llegando el mes para las personas juzgadas. Es la semana de Hanukkah. Y vamos a hablar de la hora de la fiesta, si queréis. Exacto. Espero que el suceso y el mantenimiento de la fiesta siguen en Chanyunas. Espero que la lluvan a los líderes de Hamas que están situados en Chanyunas. Y quizás el sinuario, quien sabe, sería el más grande sorpreso. Y, por supuesto, por supuesto, nuestro hostel. Un poco sobre los hosteles. Un poco sobre el conflicto, alguna operación de riesgo, para que lo que pueda llevarlos a la casa. La última acción de Red Cross, 61 días. Exacto, hasta el principio. Y aún así, ha habido algo. Colonel La Vittal, muchas gracias. Como siempre, por tu tiempo, por tu incidencia. Muchísimas apreciadas. Gracias. Muchas gracias. Y, sí, como hablamos, hay más de 138 hostes en Gaza, jóvenes y mujeres, niños y hombres. Según los que han sido lanzados, hay preocupaciones sobre su condición. Más en este reportaje. ¿Está todo bien? Mi madre fue capturada en un apartamento de 1,5 habitantes. Ella estaba en un pequeño desplazamiento, y la couple vivió en el otro. Un pequeño barrio en el desplazamiento, que se cerró, y ella no podía ver si era la noche o el día. En el momento en el que realizó que ella estaba sola, ella simplemente nos dijo, ¡listen, he decidido, he leído, he estudiado, todas las historias de los holocaustos, voy a mantener una diaria, he leído que Gila Chalit debía hacer algunos esportes, y eso es lo que hacía ella. Ella realizó muy rápido que se han traído cinco veces a día, y ella simplemente habría trajes. Ella lo recordó en un jornal, y las trajes y el sonido de Muazzin, todas estas cosas dieron su complexo de entender qué día era, qué noche, qué hora, y ella revolvió alrededor de eso. Cuando llegué a ellos, ellos se vio la distorsión, se vio la distorsión. Gila, Gila, todo el tiempo, por la otra lado, ella nunca dejó a Adi, hasta dos días atrás, ella se sabía. Ella no hablaba de nada, no se arrojó. No, ahí un poco más, pero, ¿sabes? Ella se siente de la momento en la que se asoció, lo que sucedió. Se vio todo, no habla de nada. No preguntaba, no sobre el padre, no sobre el gran padre. Con lo que sabemos, todos seis de ellos fueron en un lugar. Tal no estaba con ellos, no. Nos vimos algunos de los niños que venían con nuestras indígenas. Hay una mujer que necesitaba la operación. Injueres a las piernas, injueres a las manos, carros que estaban en niños, una nación de un niño, lo que dijo, fue una nación de motocicleta. Nos vimos muy low hygiene conditions, a niveles que no me recuerda encontrarte en niños. Las historias que escuchas de otras áreas, lice, rashes, infecciones de la piel. Algunas de ellos fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras, las que fueron muestras. Creo donde Further noted que la lengua de la comunidad sabía mucho de eso qué significa. Debuat 10kg de niños, llegaron, pero después de cocinar con la familia, la primera cosa que quieren a los niños a que eğen los niños, nos damos a comer, y de vez en cuando linen elpecto, Nos vamos a tener que continuar a apoyarlos y darles todo lo que necesitan, ahora y en el futuro, pero son increíbles, hemos recibido un grupo de niños inspirados. Sabemos que ella no lo sabía. Por ejemplo, lo que sucedió a su padre. Ella no sabía lo que sucedió a su padre. Ella fue muy sorprendente de ver a su padre en ese video famoso en el que ella actualmente murió rápido, a la velocidad de la luz, a su madre en brazos, y de repente, ella veía a su padre, y ella estaba segura de que su padre había sido kidnapped. Ella no sabía que su padre había salvado y salió de él. La primera cosa que preguntó, después de mirar a su padre, y de repente no veía a Leor, su hermano, ella preguntó sobre su hermano, y ella tenía que decirle, esto es realmente la primera cosa que preguntó, después de que regresó, sobre su hermano, que su hermano se murió. De lo que sé, y esto es casi la primera cosa que escuché de ella, cuando veía a su padre, esta toda la vez que ella no tenía camas, por casi dos meses, esta mujer no tenía camas. She says that she was humiliated very much, that she had a very difficult experience, that she was treated badly, and this is now engraved in her heart. Everything she does, she remembers the experience from there. Was she there alone? She's very scared for the abductees who remained behind. They are still in danger. She was literally brainwashed there, really, and she doesn't live in our world right now, she's still there. It's impossible to cope there, it's impossible. We have to get the abductees out of there. If we don't get them out now, they won't get out alive. How did she keep her sanity? What did she do all day? She says that most of the time she just looked at the wall. That's what she had to do and only occupied herself with thoughts of my daughters are fine, my daughters are fine, my daughters are fine, my daughters are fine, my daughters are fine. She kept trying to convince herself. I don't think that we don't see, but you can say that something has changed. Her enthusiasm for every little thing from the most basic things she had before, I don't know, maybe a towel for the shower, some chocolate or something to drink, you suddenly see the light in her eyes that she accepts such things. Or used to, she was always, we'd waste our dinner, throw away food as usual. Today we're forbidden to throw away food. There's no such thing, save everything, put it in the fridge, find a place. We were privileged to take care of 29 returnees, now the 30th returnee. Almost all of them without exception. The first thing they wanted to do when they met their families was to talk. We heard a lot from them about the psychological games that were played with them as part of the psychological abuse they went through. So it's also related to information that they share and don't share. As part of the psychology of the captive, of creating dependence on the captives. But by my feeling from what I hear from the people is that it has been refined at very high levels. The feeling is that it was sophisticated, not random or unplanned, orchestrated. Not some kind of relationship that develops by chance between a certain captor and a certain abductee. But to create the psychological infrastructure to play on their minds in a way that would achieve their goal. Was there also evidence of abuse? Sí. Pero no voy a hablar de detalles. Como dije, puedo decir que es sobre todo el range de abuso que una persona puede traer. Quiero escuchar a algunos returnees que solo quieren hablar. Y encontré a mí, por sus vidas, por horas de escuchar sus historias. No es diferente de las testimonias de personas que sobrevivieron los getos o los capos de concentración. Se siente que es lo mismo. Es lo mismo. Creo que no podemos escuchar nada más. Creo que no podemos dormir en la noche porque de los que han regresado y las historias que tienen que decir, y lo digo de nuevo, vamos a tener tiempo para salir. Y aún tenemos mucha gente ahí que está siendo heldada en mal condiciones. Y como los días van, están aún ahí. Sí, estas son las historias, estas son las veces, el signo de las veces, la esperanza mezclada con la fe, el regreso contado, mezclada con el grifo, y, tal vez, más evidentemente, entre los que regresaron a casa y aún dejaron parte de sus corazones en el Gaza Strip. Yeri Moses, el hijo de Gadi Moshe Moses que fue kidnapped a Gaza de Kibbutz Niroz y el hijo de Released Hostage Margalit Moses, el reto de todo lo que sucedió en este universo paralelero. Bueno, estaban en captividad. Ahora, con todos los días pasados, escuchamos más y más detalles de lo que la captividad parece y se siente. No tienes que, por supuesto, pero si te gustaría compartir con nosotros lo que tu madre ha podido compartir hasta ahora. Bueno, lo que estamos deseando es saber cómo ella se mantiene positiva y a las fuerzas de creer que ella estaría en casa porque ella lo creó. Y lo que ella ha hecho es intentar quedarse vital tanto como posible para que se sienta que es necesario y que no es necesario. Entonces, las personas que estuvieron con ella tienen ellos lo que pueda incluso para que las personas estén más cansadas de estar con ella y estén tan cansadas de estar con ella. Entonces, ella le ayudó a estar en casa con ella. Ella intentó calcularla con cantar una canción o jugar un juego de palabras o cualquier cosa que pudieran hacer para que estén positivos y que estén vitalos y que creen que estará en casa. Para ayudarle a otras personas a hacer algo. Y necesitamos que la red se sienta. Entendemos que la negociación puede hacer más tiempo. Espero que no. Espero que hoy, mañana, pero en cualquier caso, debemos saber cuáles son sus estados. Debe recordar. Absolutamente. Y a ese punto, la noche anterior de los estados buscando many, many answers that were perhaps not given some understandably not given others less so what can you tell us? I wasn't there so I'm now traveling to the US in Detroit now. So I wasn't in that meeting and I heard that there was a lot of shouting and this is something that with the families of the government to update us what happening. And not each time we demand and shout hard enough then they set a meeting. It's need to be something regularly that we know we can ask questions, get some answers. We understand they cannot tell us everything what is going on. But we need to be updated more than what happened now. And this is very hard for us the situation itself. Sometimes I believe they do whatever they can. I don't think they're just sitting and do nothing but not updating the families it's very hard for us not to know what's going on. Yes, no matter what is happening at least this communication line will be accessible to you and not that you will have to demand it every time on you. We are wishing you and your mother easy days ahead of course more than all else that your father will be brought back home very, very soon. My father and all the other hostages must come back as soon as possible and we need to do everything we can do in order to bring them back. 138 hostages that are all should be back home. Not now but yesterday. Thank you very, very much Hermoses we're sending a lot of strength to you and to your mother.