 No good. Yeah, look speaking DTS logo swears But it's why I See it But yeah, if you uh, you know if you like I don't I don't even I don't even know I'd explain it really wasn't even about food They didn't really talk about food really This is the CNN one parts on yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like Debbie Harry was in it Like like like New York people that you'd be like wow, you know that pipe ready But everybody's fly Right, but yeah, I know it was um It was kind of a you know like an acid trip of a episode. There's a there's a holiday episode of Of his travel channel one which was No reservations, yeah, there's a holiday version of no reservations. It's all all kind of weird and What's her face from the food channel it shows up Well, that could be a lot of people Rachel Ray. Oh And Samantha Brown is in it and they play like evil versions of themselves What I know like every once in a while you watch one of these episodes and you're like this is a bit of a fever dream Yeah, yeah, you know like this seems like a fun show to work on Or was anyway, but um, yeah anyway, so if anyone wants a fever dream watch the Lower East Side episode of parts unknown Patrick Beja That is me. Are you prepared? I Came into this world prepared Yeah, too good already Shall we then begin? Sarah, are you ready? I am. Yeah me. We're all support. All right I will I will count us in then if everyone in the chat room is ready and everyone in the discord is ready Here and then we go in five four three two one Thanks to everyone who supports independent tech news Directly if you're not already a member become one at patreon.com slash DT and s This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday December 4th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feel I and I'm Sarah Lane and from the Finnish countryside I'm Patrick Bejo And in for Roger Chang I'm associate producer Anthony Lemmos. Thank you for joining us Amos A lot of folks reached out and we're wondering if everything was okay with Amos up there in Alaska with the earthquake It was very kind of very very nice of you. I know Amos you appreciated all of that I really did everything is fine for the most part I don't know of anybody that got seriously hurt in a local community and definitely not in my in my home in my family Well, we are gonna talk about an epic adventure for epic games in developer Revenue sharing let's start with Facebook announces annual F8 conference will be held on April 30th through May 1st 2019 at the McEnnery Convention Center in San Jose, California Registration for the event isn't open yet, but developers can go to the F8 website for updates and more information Might be an interesting one Announced Monday that quote a malicious third party and quote gained access to its systems and CEO Adams D'Angelo says that the hack has may have compromised a hundred million users names Email addresses and encrypted passwords data imported from other social networks such as contacts and demographic Information could also be compromised the hackers may also have records on both public and private Actions taken on core So every developer out there Who's ever had a supervisor look at the plans to secure things better and said? Is that really gonna be a problem? Yes, and there's yes Yes, it will will absolutely become a problem IDC's estimates show that Xiaomi has taken over as the leader in wearable sales in the third quarter Thanks to the me band three fitness tracker Xiaomi's sales rose in India Europe and the Middle East Even while their home market share fell a little bit Apple fell from the lead in the wearables In IDC's estimates to second place. All right, let's talk about a crazy crazy set-top box Patrick So French telecom Iliad announced the free box Delta set-top box It has six devia led speakers Amazon voice services six Fox IOT service Zigbee smart phone smart home connectivity and more it has gigabit internet port ethernet port, sorry a Terabyte hard drive and can raid up to four drives to create an ass It supports airplay Bluetooth and Spotify connect and a suit of apps like YouTube daily motion and twitch Subscribers get the cheapest Netflix Netflix tier for free and new subscribers get a connected camera door sensor and motion detector For free as well the box costs 10 euros per month over 48 months on top of whatever service You're paying for it is as tanker TechCrunch writes a bowl of chocapique What's chocapique mean it is a delicious brand of cereal Chocolate flavored cereal as you might act so so meaning that this is a good deal It kind of is so that company Iliad is actually better known by the name of its ISP free which is the one that brought the triple play type set-top boxes to the world and the reason why in France set-top boxes or internet TV Boxes like the Apple TV and such took a while to get in because we essentially already had all of those things free is an ISP that is very geek centered and brings Innovation where other incumbents are very happy to not do anything new or different The drawback of that ISP is that it has very often had Spuddy service and has been fighting with YouTube and Netflix for peering agreements I'm guessing that by now given that they include a lot of those services in their offering They have worked things out probably with the commercial partnerships. I would guess Yeah Wow, so so if I have this right Patrick Xavier Neal is a big in the startup scene in France And so he's taken that Connectivity, you know that that that sort of knowledge and and got a bunch of startups to throw Everything they could think of his way for this box as I don't know if it's a last-ditch effort But it seems like you know sort of emergency effort to stop the erosion of freeze market share Um, I guess that could be seen like that Xavier Neal Xavier Neal or Xavier Neal If you want to pronounce it the American way Neal He's the guy behind the school 42. I guess you've heard about that one It's also being implemented in the valley if I'm not mistaken And it's not the first time that he's done something like this actually free has been known You know since the early 2000s when they launched the ISP they have always innovated and had interesting set-top boxes I think the recent issues have been Caused more by the quality of the service which I was referring to then by the quality of the Offering, you know of the the the thing they provide the hardware This seems to fix basically every problem they've had if the service the network improves and It also allows them to actually increase the price of the subscription to their To the ISP which had been stuck at 30 euros For a very long time and now it's 10 or 20 euros more expensive defending on the on the box you choose Which might help in turn? improve the service and their peering agreements and network and Be a tasty bowl of chocolate stuff Something today Windows central sources say that Microsoft's Edge web browser which I don't know I don't know what you guys think about it But I have lots of grumbling to do is going to be replaced with a new web browser built on the open source chromium platform And it's blink rendering engine which is the same as Google's Chrome Code named Anna Hyme the new browser for Windows 10 would replace Edge as the default browser on the platform Although if you if you don't like Edge, it still might be called Edge But maybe a better version of Edge. Yeah, so a lot of I think opera uses the blink engine If I'm yeah mistaken right so this would not be the first time that another browser has used this engine Although the way Windows central wrote it and I'm not sure if this is a misinterpretation or not They would actually be using chromium not just the blink engine I would be a little bit surprised if they actually used chromium and rebranded it as Edge Although it's an open source platform. They there would would be able to do that if they wanted They're just using the blink rendering engine. That's a little more normal I do think it's really interesting to see an open source project that's owned and run by Google Having Microsoft jump on board in a major way That could be very good for things if that forces that open source project to move a little bit away from From being dominated by Google at the same time if they were going to do that I really wish they would have jumped into Mozilla and and use the Firefox engine Which is also an open source project that is operated by an independent foundation I think it might have had other I think it would have seen Mozilla might have been seen to be tainted by Microsoft more than chromium for some strange reason, you know my Mozilla is super independent and seen as one of the Non-influenced by the big tech companies entity I'm wondering if they're gonna be calling it Edge I think they might need to change the name if only to get a feeling of newness, maybe they could I don't know go to something to explore the wonderful world of the Internet like the Internet Explorator I think it's just gonna be all that I think it's just gonna be the Just To the blink engine that didn't re-name opera why would you're moving off of edge HTML? because because one of the issues is that edge has is carrying a negative image So, I don't know. Maybe maybe I think that's giving edge too much credit I don't think And keeping the name I think actually helps the edge brand rather than Microsoft being like oh now We got a whole new browser because edge was a failure a new image Hmm CB did there alphabet will launch its wing drone delivery service Patrick in Helsinki Finland this Oh Wings spent 18 months in southeastern Australia testing delivery of food drinks medicine and household items And now wants to expand that to the Helsinki area Meanwhile Ghana has signed an agreement with zipline international for the delivery of health supplies nationwide Zipline already does this in Tanzania and Urwanda although Ghana's parliament Deferred the finalization of the agreement while it completes regulatory checks There's also some debate about the cost of the program. So It's it's not going into effect yet But zipline is very successful in Tanzania and Urwanda and if it does Navigate the political obstacles here in Ghana. This would this would be a big win for them These are actual your own delivery operations from actual companies in both cases You may be thinking hey, what about Amazon weren't they supposed to do this? Well as a matter of fact five years ago December 1st CBS is 60 minutes did its famous story quote-unquote About Amazon's promise to deliver packages by drone and in that story as Reuters points out. Oh, actually I'm sorry AP AP news points out Amazon said yeah, we'll be delivering packages by drone within four to five years I don't know. Maybe they didn't mean we as an Amazon. Maybe they meant we as the human race Which case they were right Well, it's not as if Amazon isn't Practicing this whole thing. So yeah, I mean might be a little romantic argument But it's not as if Amazon isn't trying to make this happen and certainly Test using it how Patrick is is there anything? I don't know You know as far as drone delivery in in your neck of the woods where it would make more sense than than other topographic areas You know, I live about two hours away from Helsinki So literally my neck of the woods is literally my neck of the actual woods So I don't know what range those drones have but I'm guessing that Helsinki means, you know, probably Helsinki I don't I don't think I would have great use for it in a very rural area. It's almost faster to go by car It probably is I never really thought about this But I'm guessing it's a little bit more useful in urban areas. I mean, I'd love to I guess it's not practical Right its zipline is doing this in Irwanda and Tanzania because it's difficult to drive medical supplies and of course Of course, you know over the mountains of terrain Or through jungle terrain in some cases So I don't know if your roads are frozen and you want to order some stuff and it could come to you by drone That might that might if they deliver pizza pizza then Yes, I Mean yes, man after my own heart Brazil's who box robotics it has created the wheelie seven that uses AI to recognize 10 facial expressions That can be used to control a wheelchair Users can assign expressions like raising an eyebrow or sticking out your tongue to movements like forward rotate and stop Who box partnered with Intel to create a combination of deep depth sensing camera robotics and sensors to work with facial recognition software 60 people in the US are testing the system. I Love this story now Intel is trumpeting this as an example of using Intel technologies But I want to give who box robotics the credit for assembling all this stuff And granted Intel is a big part of this with the development of the technology behind it But who box is is implementing it? So so I don't know if they're getting as much of the credit in some of the stories that I saw So I kind of wanted to tilt it their way But what a what a great situation to be able to For for you know for folks who who have to rely on sensors especially and can't even operate a joystick This could be this could be revolutionary Right that that's really the kind of thing that is not going to be useful for a lot of people on this planet But those who will have a use for it Because I'm guessing they can't really make any use of their limbs. It's gonna be super useful I'm guessing yeah, yeah Well, and you know in the sense of and of course, it's very case-by-case, but you know some folks who are quadriplegic have been able to to to to make use of their wheelchair by By their tongue, but that means something that is in their mouth that their tongue is actually touching So if there's something that's in front that gives you a little bit more freedom To to use the technology to to get around but it'd be less invasive personally than physically I can imagine that that is a real win for accessibility folks. Yeah, it really feels like People that had an issue that they know they knew were an issue that looked for a solution Rather than something that often happens in tech a solution that then looks for an issue To solve well said a New study by duck duck go claims that Google Personalizes search results even if users are logged out of their Google accounts and using the private browsing in Cognito mode Google responded by saying that search results can change by the minute sometimes even by the second Especially for news topics the company also says that personalization is done Only a fraction of the total number of search queries and location and recent queries are often used to help understand the context for a search However, Google also says that it doesn't personalize Results for incognitive searches using signed-in search history, which is something that people are a little worried about Well, I guess that doesn't sound like a straight answer to me Right now, let me just say something here. I am a big fan of duck duck go. I love their business model I love their way of approaching things. This is This is a little bit of self serving. It is very self serving And what duck duck go go built their reputation on is we don't track you We just look at your search query. And if you are typing in, you know DVDs will put up ads for people who sell DVDs, right? We'll just base on the query I mean, google could create a study That shows the duck duck go is is tracking you even though they don't say because they serve ads related to your search query Which would be similar to this because I do believe what google says, which is that they take into account location Which comes from your ip address. It's not your gps location But it's your region and they take it into account previous queries Which duck duck go also does and then comes up Search engine results and I do believe that google is changing those results Every second because of the way their algorithm works and it would appear Difficult to create the same results twice in that situation. So I'm not letting google off the hook Maybe there is some other stuff and it's worth investigating to find out But just on the information we have from duck duck go. I don't know that this is a smoking gun Hmm, I'm I think They google could have stated it a little bit more plainly, which worries me whenever a company doesn't Explanation though. This is as plain as you can state it if this is the truth well I'm I it seems to me that What What duck duck go is saying is well, it personalizes your site search google could have said yes, we use Uh, uh, you know, we use location and that's it. What else like let's give a list of what they use to personalize Doesn't personalize results for incognito searches using signed it search history period. Yes I know what duck duck go What was saying Okay, maybe you did the main contention outright. I don't know man Well, yes, okay, that is the most important thing like if you if they were using your signed in information When you weren't signed in that would be a huge concern and they do refute that so I take your point Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines Dot com now you may have been wondering about the epic game story Well, yeah epic games announced it will launch its own digital game store for mac and windows version of android will come later in 2019 you'll be able to get it online or through the epic games launcher Uh, which if you play fortnite you use the epic games launcher, uh, epic says it will not require drm Uh in order to be in its store. They'll allow drm free sales and here's the big point developers will receive 88 percent of revenue from sales Users of the unreal engine who usually have to share a percentage of their sales In order to use the unreal engine will not have to pay that five percent engine royalty on sales through the epic store It'll just be part Of the 12 percent that epic assist keeping now that goes against the usual 30 percent That most stores like steam take in fact steam recently instituted tiers lowering the cut it takes to below 30 percent But only if your revenue tops 10 million dollars More information on the epic games store is coming probably december 6th at the game awards. Patrick. This is kind of a big deal It is a huge deal, especially since this announcement is coming Like three days before steam announced that they would graciously lower their percentage from 30 percent to 25 percent if you top 10 million and then to 20 percent If you topped think of a number what number do you think you have to top to get to See if I remember it right is it 50 million 50 million which only two games in the history of steam have reached And this seemed like a pretty big deal when steam announced it a couple of days ago and epic is essentially destroying the This that announcement ridiculing it with their own announcement I'm pretty sure it's so close together that they can't have planned it. I doubt they did To come out so close so so close to one another, but this is really significant because the PC game store Ecosystem has been kind of stagnant for years now ever since ever since valve Launched their steam store and it's been over 10 years It took a few years to to gain traction But it certainly has been the main way that people get their games on pc for a long time And this is in the context of more and more developers and publishers big ones Creating their own platform their own storefront For people to reach their Subscriber their customers directly With that kind of revenue share It almost I don't know how much it costs to put up and maintain that kind of store But i'm guessing for many of the publishers It doesn't really make sense to have your own store if you can keep 88 percent of the revenue that you're getting from the epic store So i'm guessing a lot of them Might decide maybe not the big big ones But a lot of the middle tier ones might decide, you know what let's go with epic um That being said Steam still has the majority Of the player base as their customers. So it's still, you know, the familiarity of it is important epic Does have they recently announced 200 million Fortnite players 200 million steam by comparison has 100 million users Of course a large part of those 200 million fortnight players are playing on mobile So it's probably a fraction of that that play on pc, but it's significant It's a lot of people that you can insight to come to your pc store. So It is massive for the the gaming world on pc already for sure Yeah, imagine we've talked about with discord opening its store The idea that well with so many people using discord chat while they game What a perfect thing for discord to do to say hey, why don't you just buy your games here since you're already here while you're gaming Imagine fortnight, right? I mean discord as popular as it is is not as popular as fortnight Uh, and and if you could start a game store on the front of fortnight Why wouldn't you now granted? I imagine this is a question I have patrick I don't know if you know the answer Is it costly to publish to multiple platforms that seems to be the wisest choice if you can do it to say Yeah, I'll make my game available on discord on steam on epic And maybe I'll promote it to epic more because I keep more of the revenue But why not have it in all the places? Well, traditionally there hasn't really been many places There's been right. Yeah, there's been steam. Maybe good old games if you want to publish there as well Now there is also discord, which you might want to go to But this one is really significant because if you get to keep 88 percent You might even be able to price it a little bit lower And still get more money, especially if you don't have to pay the five percent If your game is an unreal engine game and you don't have to pay the five percent on top to epic Because if you sell on steam and it's an unreal engine game You have to pay 30 percent of valve and then five percent to epic So the the the amount you get to keep is significant and I think This is a massive incentive for companies to put their games on on on The epic store And sure, you can put it on every store if you want to but I'm guessing that some developers might want to put it first on the epic game store And then maybe put it to steam later and if it's a game that is highly anticipated They might want to put it, you know to they might want be enough to drive people to the epic store and pay a little bit less maybe even and one other thing I wanted to add is in the context of the potential Arrival of streaming technology, you know video game streaming The it's we've talked about it a lot. It might be coming in the in the next few years Um More and more developers are not beholden to a to either steam or Sony or microsoft for the consoles they can reach their Customers directly because they can they only need a small app on a setup box or a tv or something like this or even a mobile device um Steam is getting Not attacked, but you know, there's danger everywhere right now Valve is looking at the five year ten year future and thinking You might need to change things And the last thing I want to add. I'm wondering if this will have an impact on the general model of Stores take 30% that's the way it is. It's like that everywhere and that's the standard It might potentially have an impact on Stores in general potential. Yeah, right and and consumers Does it matter to you? If you have a few different icons on your desktop where you've got things bought at different places or Or is this bothersome and you will really just want to have one place That holds all your digital games or are you like nah? I'm just going to buy physical copies forever forget it Not even going to be part of this unless I got a coupon. Let us know feedback at daily tech news show.com Also, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit You can submit stories and vote on others at daily tech news show reddit.com if you hang out on facebook a lot Well, we've got a group for you facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show And we love your emails. We do we do we do keep sending them. What do we got today? Oh nick actually wrote in he was talking about our our conversation about 8k broadcasts And do we need them and where's it all going? Nick says I work at one of Australia's largest department store chains Among our many other lines. We carry dvds blu rays and 4k u hd blu rays Despite most tvs in the market these days being 4k including the ones that we sell dvds are still the most popular optical disc that we sell I'd estimate we sell about 20 dvds for every blu ray that gets sold 4k u hd blu ray sales are so rare I almost want to stop the person buying and ask them about their purchase Personally, I feel if the tv industry wants to push higher resolutions They're going to need to work with movie studios to phase out lower quality media and force an upgrade To people's viewing habits That's a good point and it's good to get those boots on the ground perspectives I imagine the reason you see more dvds sales is that more people have dvds players than blu ray players And anybody who's not in the market for dvds anymore just streams And hasn't bothered to buy a blu ray player Well, that's me for sure And I think that's where it's going and and to nick's point that the tv industry wants to push higher resolutions They need to get those 4k streams up They need to get bandwidth up so that people feel comfortable that they're not going to go over their caps if they have a cap Or they have enough bandwidth to stream a high resolution Stream and we've already seen the stores like play store and the apple store both automatically upgrading you to 4k content Because the they convinced the industry like hey, you need to do this you need to get people used to it So they're willing to buy the 4k movies if they have the 4k tv Well, thanks so much for the feedback nick and thanks for everybody for their feedback And also thanks to patrick beijer for being with us today patrick Where can people keep up with all of your fine fine work? 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So we push his voice Gotta save it For the next ritual misery Um, but yeah, if anyone could fill in for roger, I mean who better than amos. They're both sick It's really the coughing side of things as well Uh, hey, uh, sarah Yes, what should we call this episode? Well, I'm glad you asked tom I am um Yes, uh, so We've got uh, some of our top, uh ideas are google says go duck yourself I feel like it would be more Dr. Go says google yourself, but we're kind of Uh, um chrome chrome on the edge Interesting, uh deliveries from a to z Uh chrome and edgy clothing Okay, you guys are really getting Very creative, um Opening up the valve Uh, unreal amounts of money unreal amounts of money that one's not bad Uh, I vote for it and I disappear into the night Ah Like a finished vampire Essentially Uh, I'm sure they there are there's a lot of goths and metal heads, which aren't the same thing Now, uh, where are you in relation to romania, right? Yeah, we're not very close. No, I mean it depends. We're closer to romania than we are to the us So I don't know that or than we are to romania Yes, exactly That are americans. All right. Well, good Oh, keep on it patrick. Thank you very much. Uh, next week I will be in paris. I I hope I don't uh, get accosted by myriads of yellow vest people I just bring a bring a high vis with you and I'll just think you're part of them Yeah, I'm I'm not sure that would be a good thing either. So I'll try to be uh Invisible like a vampire. I have training here. Yeah, so your vampire skills with you. You'll be fine. I hope I will see you again in two weeks. Okay. Yes. Be safe Bye Patrick safe Keep yourself safe against those vampires. You know, they're in finland They got you you know, what's going on in paris right now with the uh, the big protests and everything, right? well, yeah I Hopefully patrick will not be uh in peril In peril, right. Yes, or otherwise Is So What else is new? How's otis? Otis is good. Otis is um, he's uh, let me move this. Um, he is Sleeping soundly. He snored. He he sawed some sawed some logs throughout the show. Um, nobody apparently heard It was really funny. Um We uh, I had a real busy morning And so, you know, I I I like to take him out for like a good hour in the morning And we just didn't have time to do that this morning. So I kind of every time I would go outside to, you know Get something from my car or whatever, you know, I'd take him with me just so he could have a little A little bit, but I think it it tuckered him out enough that he's he's having his afternoon slumber as usual but um When we came back from like the third time in our, you know, darting outside to do whatever we were doing Lo and behold lucy was in his crate Uh, which is lucy is a cat. Um, and she noticed get along fine. Yeah, but she's never gone into his crate before What was she doing in there? She was just she was just chilling in there During a certain time of day a little bit earlier than this because I'm I'm looking at a window right now Um, the um, his crate gets like direct sun And so she obviously has been like monitoring this and while we were out She was like this is my house and so she got in there and was just like very pleased with herself You know and Otis kind of like came back in and because he likes to he likes to hang out in his crate Most of the time when we're at home. This is just his little his little spot Yeah, he kind of looked at me like what do I do? I was like, I don't know man She's in the crate She's I mean there's room for both of you. It's a huge crate and he was like, mm-hmm won't do it Uh, as much of a good instagram moment as that would be for you mom not gonna do that not gonna do it Um, finally, you know, because I sat in here, which is you know, the crate It's right next to me right here and he was like, maybe I'll try and she was like, okay I'm out of here But it was I was like we're getting to the point where those two are gonna be in the crate together I see it happening by Christmas mark my words Bad story for that picture. I'm already pre-liking it I am too No, they're they get along fine. They get along fine. So you haven't met Kai? Have I met him? Oh, Kai's in Amos's lap Oh Oh my gosh, Kai is so much bigger than I thought he would be at this point Oh, look at those ears I mean Kai is looking a lot like Ray. Am I right? Yeah, they could be cousins Oh my gosh Now, I mean for such a little dude How big is he gonna be if he's that big already? Um, he comes from a line of very large dogs. So Well, I'm a I'm a large dog fan myself His sire was 140 Oh shoot Sorry, I almost cost wow. Oh my gosh 140 Yeah, he's uh, he's he's about 40 pounds right now And he's what what you'd like 10 weeks He's he's right at right at 15. I think 15. Okay. Well, yeah, he's gonna be big At least 100 Oh, look at Kai. What a cute heart I know the audio listeners that this is, you know, torture Well, you know, if there's any incentive to watch video, you'll see all of our pets At least Kai I keep Ray and Sawyer away because they will start barking at the mailman Dude, are they mailman? Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, like every day without fail type thing. Yeah, we had a package delivered earlier and and That's how I know a package is coming the the amazon notice comes well after the package is delivered But the dog notice comes in in advance for sure Ray is right at the door just like Just ready. Yeah, I remember A dog that we had as a kid who was she wasn't a german shepherd, but she was sort of a Well, anyway, she was she was a mix of something that did not like postmen post people And yeah, it was a whole thing When when the mailman came It was a whole thing to make sure like not only was she sort of subdued but that she wasn't out and about Because she might have Launched herself at him. It's it's a it's not a uh, it's not particular to the mailman It's it's anybody that isn't me or aileen coming to the door right stranger danger Yeah, although in our old she's doing what she thinks she's supposed to do In our old place and and and you know if it was a burglar then you know, she's right. Yeah uh, so we're used to Not only bark at the mailman in the old place, but he knew the mailman smell So when we were out on a walk, even if we were Blocks away and he saw the mailman. He started barking Oh, and he's like, oh, I know you you're that guy tries to get in our house every day Got another rude man And I wondered I used to wonder like is it the uniform? Is it you know, what is it? Oh, no, because when we moved to this region I keep them in a back room while I do the show So they can't get up to the door. We see the mailman when we're out walking now in the new area He doesn't bark so ours doesn't know the mailman here from anyone else Not that the mailman smelled I just mean like, you know sure just well Yeah, I mean dogs sniff each other's butts. Yeah, so you need a dog a dog can hear your particular vehicle from like a mile away as you're coming home Um, Kai has gotten he spends enough time down here in the office that he actually can tell when david is walking in the kitchen upstairs Because he'll start getting really antsy but only for david anybody else walks upstairs. He doesn't care But when david does my son he gets really antsy and I gotta let him go so you can go up there and play with david Oh, that's so cute. He mentions david's footfalls They know when I open the drawer that has my workout clothes in them From across the house and come running because they think maybe he'll take us on a run You know this morning I live across the street from an elementary school And they were you know, no kids actually really show up there until about 8 a.m I don't know when school is in session, but it's like it's a ghost town until about 8 And I'm up earlier than that doing whatever and this morning because there's like a You know loud speakers where you know, they talk to the kids or whatever But at 7 a.m. It was sort of like this is a test of the emergency you know one of those things where they were they were testing basically like smoke alarms or whatever And um, it was disruptive You know, whatever it was obvious what was happening I wasn't actually worried because I I heard the you know the warning beforehand But odis was just like he wasn't even upset. He was like he just was looking at me like What is this sound? What is that? I don't understand. I've never heard this so before. What do I do? What do I do? Yeah, just like, you know kind of just like I'll sniff this corner Um, and oh no, it's still happening. You know, maybe I'll pick up one of your shoes Okay, that won't help either And it's just sort of like you kind of have to laugh because it's so like you can see like the wheels in motion of him being like Why why is this happening? This does not happen at 6 30 a.m. Ever. Yeah 6 30 a.m. Oh Well, I mean I was up so it wasn't the end of the world, but It feels illegal Like you can't you can't do construction that early you have to depending on the neighborhood It's 7 or 8 a.m. Before you can actually start doing construction. I mean, this is a very big elementary school I mean it takes up a whole city block So who knows maybe there maybe there was a fire Safety issue where they just had to do it before the kids got there this morning. I don't know I was up wasn't the end of the world, but odis was just like What's this noise? poor kid Well Yeah What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Yeah I have found that kai loves going outside and getting in the truck. He loves getting out of the truck and coming inside He does not like to drive very much So he just basically sits in the back in In wimpers instead of roll the window down everything else and he'll just sit in the back and just like i'm not having this This is not good I know uh Sawyer doesn't really like To be in cars Oh, what else loves a good car ride? He's actually really good in the car. I mean I took him on a you know seven hour Yeah way road trip, you know early on in our in our union and he was great He slept the whole time, you know politely waited for us to you know Stop at our little rest stop and did his thing and he's really good in the car So I I think my lucky star is because I know some dogs are not um but uh We had a uh a friend's dog who just freaked out in the car like wind and and and stuff. It was just Yeah, right or some dogs get like carsick right or um Yeah, we're just sort of don't handle the bodily stuff that they would normally because it freaks him out Mm-hmm I mean, you know Otis has his moments, but at least in the car he can Keep his ish together Folks those are your last dog stories today. Thanks for listening We're watching and video or audio folks stick around who knows we might change topics. We might not You'll know in a minute