 Welcome to Toffy TV. We are continuing the season review and we're on to the Strikers. Attackers. Let's call them Attackers. Attackers. Attackers. Well, Attackers. Attackers. Er, yeah, this is a, I mean, before we go on to the plays themselves, it's a bit of a, bit of a weak area, isn't it really? Just a little bit, yeah? Just, I mean, the cameras on you and I'm talking, which is tremendous. Er, yeah, there is a weak area, I think. You know what was dead ends? I haven't had a proper, like, full look at the Premier League table since we survived and I was looking at it. No, I'm relieved. I was looking at it today. And I think Everton's, erm, goal difference is actually, I think it's like the best out of the bottom. Bar, Leicester, I don't know if you haven't conceded that many, but I like to Chelsea. Chelsea won three more games than Everton. Things like that. When you look where the deficiency was in our team, it was scoring goals. If you look at goals conceded, Everton wasn't too bad really, but it just shows like this and we'll go into each one now, but this is the area where we said it, everyone said it, didn't it? This, it was clearly obvious in August and on both deadline days that we were going to be shorting this area and that's exactly how it played out. Yeah. And when you think about it, Jack, I mean, we will go into it, but the combined figures of the players really should be one player, you know, for all the numbers we'll look at now. It should be one player. That's what I'm saying, it should be, and that should be like almost, almost like in a top side, that would be your second or your third, your third attack, I never mind. And this season has been, I mean, we scored the least amount of goals in the Premier League and that, to me, focuses very quickly on everything that needs to be done for next season. You know, you can, before you look at any other position, it's, it's in that, it's in that final third, and so I'm, I'm stuck that on last day, didn't I, when I bobbled with them four against Liverpool. But yeah, but now we've got a player on seven goals and he's done very well getting them seven goals, because that's more than he's ever got before. But to us, he's our top scorer with seven goals to the team like ever. And even for the team in our position fighting relegation, that should be higher. When you look to next season, you think, well, he's never got that level of goalscoring before. Was this a one-off really get that again? So you're going to need minimum two players really then, don't you? We were a goal scorer, you need at least one striker and you probably want a winger who can chip in a few more goals as well. But then you look into the players you've got there and we're going to go through the numbers, aren't we? But you can look at all of those players and say, like, you're good enough to have more than that by McNeill. But you know, like, when you're mal-pais and you're like, you know, say what you want about them as players, they've scored more than that before. And you've got to look at these players and the ones that we know will be next year and think they've got to give us more next season as well as well as the hopefully three players we bring in. I mean, I'll be honest. I honestly don't know. I hope they're not here next season because it is our massive weakest point and I don't think some of these can be improved. I honestly don't. I just don't think they're good enough. I just, I think you have to draw the line. They probably will be next season. They're going to be wrong and they have to do more. But we have to add to it so much. But let's get into it. Let's get in. Let's start with my favourite player, Dwight McNeill. Played 38 times. Pass accuracy 75%. Seven goals. Three assists. Big chances created 11. Crosses accuracy is 20% or 26%. I can't see it. Well, I mean, is it? Well, 26 is better. Well, it's better than 20, yeah. Dwight McNeill. Go on, Pass. Dwight McNeill. Brilliant end of the season. Gorom wasn't convinced because not just the attribute we needed because Retiala's not gone out of it or he didn't really have like Jax just said there. This was his best output in the season. So there was no evidence that he'd done that before and we were lacking goals and I wanted a faster winger with goals in him if we were losing to Jarlison. He'd come in strut, I think, fair to say, struggling big time in the first half of the season. It looked like the club was, it sounds mad saying it from where we were, but it almost looked like the club was a little bit too big for him in the first half of the season and the pressure, didn't he? But since Jarlison, Dwight's coming. Brilliant. And he was, he finished the season so strongly. Hardware, goals, added goals, assists. Can he do better? I actually think he can at that age, I mean 22. This has to be the bar now. This has to be his level. It's got to be. That's six, seven, eight goals he's got to be getting. Don't forget, most of that was born out of really good form for half of the season. And you know we added a few goals in the first half of the season, but his performances were really improved in the second half of the season. So for me, he's set his standard now and he can't really fall below that. But he finished the season so strongly and we sat here in a bad equal and my life. Who's going to be the talisman? Who's going to pick it up and go with it like the Jarlison did nearly in that season? And to be fair, it was Dwight McNeill. So it really got into the season for him. Yeah, I think for McNeill, I think one of the reasons, and I'm not trying to discredit me about one of the reasons why he has, I'd say so many goals, but so many compared to the rest of the team of seven is because a lot of our attacks went through him, especially in that second half of the season. And I would like to see if there's a number four or a percentage of our attacks went through Dwight McNeill because he became our outlet, became the player we played through. And it might be a case of if we strengthen and we bring in two forwards, this window may be Dwight McNeill gets less goals simply because we rely on him less and we're going through him less. And no, we're still not going to have a massive amount of chances, but then they'll fall to the player. So maybe he does get less. But in terms of what he's done this season, overall, like he started the season poorly, you're allowed to say that. But in terms of what he's finished the season with in his numbers, you can't really ask for more. But he's gone above what he's ever done before. He scores some very important goals. And like you said, he was the one who stepped up and he carried the mantle as much as he was capable of. He was top scorer at the end of it. Yeah, that was only seven goals, but that's more goals than anyone else in the side. So, you know, he's worked to his full ability. He couldn't have asked them to work any harder. And he's the one who stepped up and, you know, without his goals, without him on the pitch, potentially he must have had a position right now, aren't we? Played every, you know, 38 games there, really good, you know, work hard, give everything, whether you'll give more than his ability at times and performed. And that is 22. So there's a room to grow as well. I actually think better teams have those numbers. So I'm not looking for him to drop off because we move other people, we use other people. I'm looking for him to do that again and possibly get them on. And that is winding his left foot up and hitting it. But then for goal, you know, sat my seasons, I could see it was right behind it as it hit him, it was in. Them kind of shots, followed me, followed it up with another one. I did the box, get it out your feet, hit it. He's got that left foot. Use it, get more shots in. And hopefully, if you get then, you get strikers in the penalty area. And another one, why player running in, his assists will get up as well. So, you know, you're absolutely right. But I just think, for me, I hope that this is the beginning for him of being that performer at that level. Only time will tell him, of course it will, but he had a really good end to the season. No, he did. I still think there's loads to go because he had, you know, he's got seven, he had two of them in the first half of the season. I do think, don't forget the goal of Brighton after keeper, it was created by you as well. I do think Antony Gordon even was also a huge moment for him because he cleared the path for him to play every week. I don't think Frank Lampard knew what to do for the best. I don't think he knew. I think playing more and more games, being left in the side, being important, having an important role, you know, things like to set pieces for Dyson, just Dyson probably just talking to him. He looked massively out of his place. I still, and I don't, I actually don't actually care. My opinion is it was still, I don't think it was still a good sign in terms of, I always think you should replace a player with a better player, right, if you can. I still feel like that and nothing will change my mind on that, nothing. But he's, but what I would say is he grew massively in the second half of the scene. He started taking responsibility. He didn't look like a lots little boy, which I thought he did in the first half of the scene. I was very critical of him being poor because he was poor. He was massively, massively poor. Sean Dight, if your man had to come in, he knows him and turns around and says, he was, he watched all the stuff he says. He was, he didn't perform very well. And my, my arguments as well is they didn't have a plan for him. They didn't know what to do with him. They bought him in and like, oh God, because we can buy this fella, because we can put four million quid down for him or five million quid for him. So he suits us, but he didn't know what to do with him. That's why I thought it was a terrible sign. And, and, and sure, the only way that was actually fixed was Sean Dight. I don't think it would have been changed any other way. And, and again, when I've been critical of him and critical of the sign and did the reasons, and I still stand by them because it was just like, well, you've got this player and then you're going from that player and they were like, they're not similar to each other. It's a lot of that was done with Harry Creepman, though. No, no, that's insane. I glad that got double figures every year, bro. That's not criticising the player, that's criticising the club. Mm. What he did second half of us, he took responsibility for it. He gained more confidence. The goals started to come. The got the hard work started to show playing in the same position every single week. And I do think what he's showing now is that he belongs as an Everton player. You can see that now. And that is that's where I would pat him on the back. Forget about like, you know, adding goals, the goals, the goals came because of that because he suddenly felt it felt like he belonged. The goals were vital. And people got behind them. People got behind them and saw the hard work. And so he started relishing that. And that is that is hugely down to him and shown by for taking that responsibility so well, don't you? You know, I still, as I said, I still look at the situation with it all and think it wasn't a sign. But he's come through that. And I think that shows a brilliant level of professionalism, commitment to doing what to change things. And I look at him now. And, you know, if you look at my, you know, if you look at my stand 11s last season and his hours numbers went up, I think he's, I think he's massively, massively got better, improved game by game. And that's a good thing because obviously it's a good thing. We want them to do better. Getting the seven goals is huge. And, and I, and also, and this, this, this is hugely important as well. You look at, like reasons why he was born, putting the ball in the box, having Dominic Calvin Llewyan in there. That wasn't there for a lot of the season. So I think, I think when he was in the team, I think Frank Lampard didn't actually know what to do with him because Dominic Calvin Llewyan wasn't there. He was like, what do I do with this play? I've got mobile play in the front or what do I do with them? And I think that also stunted it. And again, that goes back to pole recruitment because he wasn't explosive in terms of picking a ball up and running with it. It was the case. He couldn't use them as a wide, it was almost like you could see him. And I think Mike McNeill felt it as well. It was like, almost like like what's mean role. And then yeah, once you're on dice coming, then all of a sudden he's picking a ball up and travelling with the ball. And he looked, he looked two yards quicker in the second half of the season in the first half. He looked laboured his run. He looked slow in your life. Why have we bought someone who's got no history of scoring goals? Doesn't look like he's got any kind of pace. Isn't crossing, you know, we told his left foot was good, he was over it and things and all that. And it was, you know, it did all turn around for him. And then it's fair play to him. And he finished the season brilliant. So my player ratings for the season, his player rating was 5.74. But his player ratings under Lampard were 4.7 and his player ratings under Dice were 6.57. So it jumped up massively, massively, massively. And fair play to him, fair, absolutely fair play to him. On a, on sofa score, he was one of only three Aventon players. He got above seven. He got 7.06. Obviously the goals make a big difference, but that just shows it. He was one of the top players. So fair play to him. You mentioned not playing with Carl Birt Lewin as well. I think the first time he actually played them on the left, not asking him to be a right winger, he cuts inside on his left, which isn't his game. I think the first time he played them on the left, we took Dom out of the team. It's like you finally put McNeill in his role where, you know, his job's to cross, stay on his left foot. You know, he's not taking on people as much and then like Carl Birt Lewin who's, you know, is all roles ahead in the ball in the back of the net. He goes in the air and he comes out of the team. Do you think there's more to come from him in terms of not playing as a wide player though? Because I did notice there was times in the season where he was coming inside a little bit of times and not necessarily coming off the wing, just more his position was a little bit more tucked in. And I thought that actually helped, helped with a few more of his natural abilities. I don't think he's a particularly good runner with the ball. Like when he runs at people, I don't think he knows what his destination is a lot of the time. So he tends to run into people. I mean, we've seen that loads through the first half season. He pickers, he just have his head down and run. I thought that didn't produce that. But I thought second half season when he was tucked in a little bit more, you could see a few more touches giving it, getting back and then maybe getting the shot off around the centre of the area. Well, don't think Gary started his career. He was a centre mid on Burnley because he wasn't in the game enough. Burnley pushed him wide because he'd go missing a little bit. And that was what he was growing up, what he was at Manchester United when he was a kid. He was a centre mid field player. Everton used, in fact, from Anglampard played on centre mid in Australia. And he was, he had a very good game and felt it. Now, when he'd be, you know, he'd be West, Sydney Wonders, whatever, but that's where he played and his passing range come into a dense. And don't forget he, when he'd done an admirable job at left back and left wing back at the end of the season when he needed him to. So there is more, I think there is more to come from. I think he's, the fact he can do a couple of positions is big. You might be right. Other times he may play as one of three in the field. That's almost like an eight. But I think what you'd need there is you'd need a left back who can get up and down a little bit more on the second left back. But if he did go in, it's almost like a double eight in the midfield. If Everton got a little bit better and we're a bit more settled, then you could still have a left forward as well. He also looked hugely fitter under Dice as well. He looked incredibly fitter. And I think with that fitness came maybe that, it lacks a bit of pace as well. And a bit of confidence. And obviously the confidence as well. So he did, he done very well, he done very well. He turned it round and he's got to keep that board obviously. He's got the standards now. That's up to him now to take it forward. And only by demanding that the likes of him improve on that will have it and improve. You can't go at the great season last year. Oh, it's not very good this season. He's got to go, right? I want to do better than I did last season. And if all of them do that, we'll, we'll have a better season. Let's move on. Damari Gray played 35 times, did he really? Pass, accuracy 81%, six goals, one assist, five big chances created across an accuracy 21%. So he's an enigma, isn't he, Gray? He scores goals like he did the one that he had, can create, can create a lot of good opportunities, but at other times he's such a frustrating player and you understand why he's had the career he's had because he just comes and goes. Yeah, I look slightly differently at Damari Gray, I think probably than some other people. I just look and think we got him for one and a half million quid. He got seven goals last season, no competitions. I think it was six. He's got six again this season. I think he carries a threat. I think he's got, I've said that before, at times he's almost got champions league ability with championship decision making with him. You know, he does some tremendous bit of driving people and he'll go round one and then his pass is terrible or you blaze it wide or, and then other times he does that thing which is so frustrating. He'll get one v one and he'll stop running, slows it down, he slows it right down and you go mate, he's got the fullback on the run, run past the pace to take him on. Take him on and just get it. When he does it, when he simplifies his game and he goes beyond them and puts a cross in, he's massively, you know, you look and go, wow, what a great ball. He's really dangerous and he's probably another one who hasn't benefited from having a centre forward in the box. Do you know what I mean? Last season I went under Benitez right at the very start when Dom and Britsial are somewhere there. He looked really dangerous in the opening few games and then, so he is frustrated and don't get me wrong and sometimes I look at him in his attitude and I think you actually asked the UK then other times he does quite well. I think the frustration with him is the fact that you just think you could do so much more and he probably gets away with it because it's for you to solve it and you go, you know, well for 1.5 million, we've got more than enough for that, so it's okay, so we don't need to get on your back and such. It's not like a 30 million player who's inconsistent. You are what you are. You're a cheap and you perform sometimes but it's just annoying because he did the same exact thing last season where there was a spell where he looked like a real beater, where he looked like a quality player, like a real bargain and you think, yeah, you know, you've got 10 goals and you're locked up as you're good enough because he does have the ability for that but it's the decision making and the inability to mix it up sometimes as well, I think. No, you know, with your decision making, you're absolutely right though because if you remember back to early in the season, notting in Forrest at home, there's a long ball from Pickford in the 98th minute, his face such as well class because he just kicked the dead out of his feet and equalises. A week later at Brentford, we're 1-0 up and he's cleaned through with the goalie and all he has to do is think it for 2-0 and he hesitates and tries to and then loses and it's like those moments, he got a goal robbed off him at the end. He was onside and I think they actually said he was onside, got choked off but you're right, it is that thing where you look, you get six goals and you go, you should have 10 because the chances you get, you're already scoring some but you're absolutely right, I'm saying, I look at him and go, well you know what for one half million but that really shouldn't mean my standards drop. I still should be thinking, you should be getting double figures and you can't do it, my gun sits on the bench. I'm happy for you to sit on the bench as a squad player, everything needs better. Yeah, there's two ways of looking at it and just look at the transfer fee and you go what are the 12 goals across two seasons, 1.5 million in today's market is very good. If you look at Damari Gray's ability, he's a footballer at 12 goals across two seasons, he could have close to double that because he does have the ability, he's blessed with pace as well and he can hit them against Manty, against Arsenal. People forgetting that Arsenal game as well, he nearly scored the same exact goal a few minutes later at the bar didn't he? Like the ability's there, he can hit them, got the delivery when he's told to use it, he's got someone to aim at, it's just, where is this consistently, is it a coaching? That's why he's had the career he's had, because no-one's been able to team to get it out. I also think probably him and Machni, I've shared the same position as well, both left side of Andy, they're both coming in on his right footer, that doesn't help either and again, I don't know whether Lampard quite knew what to do with them. I get the 1.5 million thing, it's just still frustrating. That shouldn't really, for me, I'm saying, I look at it like that, but it shouldn't really matter how much his face he's placed in our first team, I'm sure we need that. Yeah, I mean that's the thing, that's what we share consistently over these videos, it's like you can say, oh they should have done better, but if you start having five, six, seven players and you're going, they shouldn't really be in the first team, that sort of points to where we are, isn't it, and that's the problem, isn't it, so. Do you think, sorry, just to finish on them, do you not think that he could occupy the right of chance, because I thought under Benitez, when he did have some spells out there, he looked a threat, he looked dangerous, beating the man one by one and crossing it, but I just don't think he's, I just don't think, you've got to, you've got to play that consistency card, haven't you? You've got to look at it and go, if you can't play consistency over 25 games at least, then what are you, what are you going to do for us, what are you going to, what are you really offering, what you're offering then is, somebody comes off the bench and we haven't got that other player, haven't we, and then you go, well maybe somebody needs to play himself into form and it's like, well, we haven't got the other players to take up the load, so it, it, yeah, we need better, we need better. I give them 5.59 for the seat, for the average, okay. There's a difference much between Dyson Lampard. I haven't got those stats. He got six points. I can't imagine there would have been. He got 6.84, my sofa score, which was one of the top scores. He said, yeah, sofa score man, he's a man. Well like that, look at, you're doing it through your eyes and emotion, obviously, and they're doing it through an algorithm that says if you get a goal, it's bigger, so. But I, like I said, he did a decent job as a centre forward when we needed it, and he should never have really had to do that, but he was all right in some games and the way we played the way. Two was it all three. Two wasn't a forest in Chelsea. Did he have another one? I think he had another one, did he? Did he score in Chelsea or penalty? Not Chelsea. Forest then. Brighton. Brighton. Brighton. Brighton it all. Yeah, Chelsea. Brighton it all in the last seconds, yeah. Let's move on. Ella Sims, 11 games, one goal, now assist, big chances missed one, big chances created zero. Who did get the penalty? I think, did he get the penalty for Gray? Well, he played the ball through, didn't he? Sorry. Come back in January, it's sort of, it's sort of called as well what the situation was, which led to obviously a lot of worry, which is not his fault. He was having a good season at Sunderland. Seven, 17, didn't he? Doing very, very well, scoring different kinds of goals. They brought him back to have a little look at him. That ended up being keeping him. One big goal, as we said, against Chelsea, the one goal, but I don't know, Baz, what have you made of his half a season because the manager didn't seem to be, obviously seemed too, too enamoured to get him in the team. Yeah, I think he averaged when we looked, I think it was 19 minutes, I think, over his 11 through 19 minutes at each performance show. I think he was a little, I think he was treated a little bit unfairly in, he was started at Old Trafford, he was started at Amfield in two games that we weren't going to have a lot of the ball off and he did miss an absolute hit at Old Trafford at 0-0, three-man-man, which is others good. But his goal at Chelsea was excellent. I think he's a young player in terms of experience wise, but he's 22, he made his white and green, he was just praised and retialed and at 22 was banging all sorts of goals in and won the Cop of America and all that, so for others obviously it's a different pathway. I think I'm a bit frustrated that the manager chose Maupai over him after he'd scored at Chelsea to start against, I like to fool him at home, which I think Sims would have done alright against, but I'm also frustrated by Ellis when I'm watching, like he came on against Bournemouth in a game where it was run your bollocks off because we just need a battle for that last, he come on with 10 minutes to go when it was obviously 10 minutes in, and when he's pressing, he just jogs and that annoys me. As a young footballer trying to make your way in the game and prove yourself, you should be running around like a lunatic, but when at the back because you're going to get your breath at the minute you've forced them to play out and there's little moments I think, why Sean Dyche wouldn't play him and there is that thing, his hold up plays not great, but I do feel if you play them in games like full on my own, we create a chance, don't forget Maupai, he's to basically open goals that day, which I think Sims would have scored both of them, so I think he may well have got us goals in games had he started and had more of a chance, but then the manager sees him five days a week, we don't, I'm just going, he's a bit more dominant Calvert Llewman like therefore he might suit Everton, where Neil Maupai, not necessarily always his fault. I think the thing with Sims is I think he might be a little bit of a late bloomer, no he's not old on anything already, but normally if a player's got it the show on it by 22, normally I think Alice Sims will be a competent Premier League striker in a few years, but if you've watched him at any level it's always taken him a while to get up to speed, even a under 18 level when he was scoring goals for funny luck, he still looked a bit lost on the pitch, didn't really know his role, he knows how to finish, he knows how to put the ball in it, everything else in terms of awareness on the pitch holds up play now and how and when to press. I think for a while and this is a consequence of how our youth system was run, he was allowed to just get by off being a bit better physically than everyone else at his age group, so he was a bit like a senior player playing at the kids level because he's so stocky and he had a decent pace for that level. He went up to the under 23s level and scored goals but he still looked poor in terms of areas of his general play, still looked like he just didn't really know his role on the pitch when he wasn't on the ball, he just seemed to wonder a bit aimlessly and then you know he goes into the league one and does well, really turns up towards the end of his low and spell day, does the same thing in Scotland. At Sonsland he started okay when a few games out of goal then started getting the goals again and we bring him back. I think it takes him a while to really build up to the level he's playing at because he's not really had much coaching over the night, you're bigger than stronger than these, get past them and score and he's obviously got his natural goal scoring ability and awareness that the strikers either have or they don't but in terms of his performance for Everton this season I just feel a little bit sorry for him because he shouldn't be playing at this level and obviously we had to bring him back as you needed some sort of strike and he scored a goal that ends up being quite important for us so you know maybe you can say it was the right decision to bring him back but say circumstances never should have got to the point where he was coming in the team he wasn't ready. No I agree, I don't think he's anywhere near ready and if he is going to become a competent Premier League player that won't be with Everton. No I think he'll need, I think he'll worried need to do this, I think he'd need to go into the championship and come up with a team and then play 25 games with that team and get better, we can't, I don't think we can afford to offer them because I think we'd end up getting relegated if that was, it would be a relegation team again because it's just, and the manager clearly looks at Simly because he just, it did baff on me but like you said there why are you playing big away games starting and not getting a start at Godderson, that's baff on them, I don't understand what the manager sees there that like whether it's like well and I'm feeling not going to have loads of the ball so all I want you to do is when we do kick it down just chase it, that's all it looked like didn't it, yeah that's what it looked like whereas maybe you think well of course we'll have more play and he'll have to drop in and be a link playing or I don't get that, I don't get that but I think that's stopping his progression isn't it and I think we got it badly wrong by bringing him back but then what can you say, it needs most didn't it so he's got the goal of Chelsea, he's got as many goals as Mopec and it was a very very important goal to get his 2-2 and lovely goal and you always have that, going past cooler barley, one of the best defenders in the world so we're told so we'll have to see what comes next whether we can get people in and say right you can move now to whether it be on loan or payment somewhere, there'll be shun, there'll be looking, Black Bay and I have it you know we've had are interested so yeah difficult season for him but he'll be all the better for you, he's had 11 odd games and everything's first team he's had these three starter being Chelsea away Manchester United away Liverpool away and doesn't get any harder and now he gets in the master's league now, he has qualified for the master's league, he can always say because there's many goals with Neil Mopec. I think the thing to do maybe though if you do let him go is just you know get the future clause in there and say okay Sam if he gets promoted you get this extra amount of money or you know if you sell them to a Premier League team three is down a line and three's just got 20 goals in the championship that's that's the ideal thing to know isn't it? I give him 5.5 now but obviously he played only played 11 games so we've got 6.62 off so far so good but again a goal skew of that unofficial. Let's look at everyone's favourites like Neil Mopec as Ned calls them 29 games one goal one assist seven chances big chances sorry missed big chances created zero and it is that big chances missed one that is haunting him obviously scored against Westam got us three points big three points dead of three points that kept us up big goal big goal and you thought right he's he's coming to me side Dabi missed the big chance you know he couldn't play it leads because it was a bank holiday obviously standard standard scored that goal Westam you think oh he's up to speed now that was it that was that was it never got another goal never got a sniff after that really just in and out the team when he was in he missed big chance the style had to change when he played it's it's on it's one of the most battle and signings evident they've ever made considering considering what he was coming in for which was to be Dominic Dominic Hamlin's unstudy just crazy crazy signing just completely didn't fit what we need does he not that style of striker at all he plays in a completely different way and you can go on all day about how he doesn't play to his strength and play him in the right system he still missed seven big chances still a striker any striker he should be burying big chances that's how it works the law missed a couple he shouldn't be missing seven you shouldn't be finishing the season with one goal one goal that's that's what it's sense of that gets yeah he means to score more against wolves than what in two games in two games yeah but you know you can you can say he's not been played in the right system in everything but what that says that he's had eight big chances so that he could be on eight goals still and that's a good return that make him our top goalscorer that just shows even if he's not in the right system take that aside he's not but they're big chances though what are all the half chances what about all the all the times the ball got slid in front of him and he never made the run what about they're the ones for me that are that are more frustrating big chances come and go in games we see that carl misses chances ever misses chances to me it was all the other stuff that annoyed me it was all the times where the ball got slid in front of him and he's he hasn't anticipated and slid in they're the ones for me that annoyed me it was it was too much of that it was him just driving round in little circles that annoyed me there was like strikers will miss chances but if you're not in the end of stuff that comes into the box the poor umgain the two sith has he missed against full on my own that one one Dave that was if for me that was the final straw it was a huge game and a game we all looked at where this is our opportunity they were they were on a little bit of a you know they plateaued at that time didn't admit a bit and we had two huge chances at one one and he's trying to dink it over a goalkeeper instead of just smashing it in filler around at nil nil when we were the better team if nils squared the team he's got the corn the net and he's trying to bend it it's those moments in games where you're right strikers of course they all miss chances everyone misses chances but it is those moments it's the moments where i'm looking at the average player positions and he's in our heart as you centre forward it's if you're little then as i centre forward you should always be on the last man always you're not going to win others do you know what i mean so therefore his roles should have been like well i'll make sure i'm a ran a penalty spot when we're wide and i can't slid across i'm the one that's turning it in i'm the one that's sucking it over the line we've seen it early on very early on in the dabby you had that grey on that run and we had the whole goal to it you might need it the only place where all of some of us ate a bad term instead of putting it in the other corner and that's sadly for him and now we scored against west dam after it but that's sadly for him summed up as ever in careers so far and the club tried to and move him on in january and he went to the goal and because of obviously the manager getting shocked he couldn't let a striker go up the door without having anyone lined up and he's ended up staying and he's not really contributing just a really poor sign you know isn't it i mean because the lad himself has scored like 10 goals last four seasons or something like that sure someone sent me shut and saying it he's got one in 45 glem your league yeah that's what i'm saying so like you know he was a he's a he's a he's a certain style of striker but when you you can't be moving from different styles week in and week out you know don't look at me and get in you're on a Friday and you're sticking them in you're like well you've been saying you know we have to play a particular way and when don came into the side we'll obviously talk about don next but when he came into the side the team just suddenly clicked into action like that was the way it was set up to play and it's so so such a strange sign and again one of those ones where they probably looked at it and gone oh we can get him for a dead small bail payment let's just get him because obviously other teams had looked at him but probably gone that we're not paying that for him or we're not prepared to go with his wages and yet we went for it because we were obviously so desperate to win players in it but spectacularly hasn't worked out. Brighton the thing we all said about Brighton for years was they added proper striker they they caused issues for everyone and he was the one that he was their striker and they wanted out and we took him well we needed loads of goals and they've got rid of him and even Ferguson and Matoomer and all the others you've got and he did get some decent goal return to Brighton as well but he probably had the same thing then as he if you pulled up his big chances missed a Brighton they'd be high then and well and then you take it to Everton where we're making less chances and he's had 18 across the point of the season and then you're always going to assume he's going to miss half of his chances at least aren't you. Well you should start assuming he's going to miss more. I give him 4.5 for the season was he the lowest score never in play? I am Mattyn he was but he was a year and gone 4.5 a lot of. Yeah that's definitely the lowest I think. Yeah okay soffa score he got 6.56 see they don't they're just mad but other than Tom Davis he was the lowest score never in play and that's off soffa score so kinds of goals with fitting with your thing of his performance as well. Yeah right let's move on to Dominic Alvernon finally played 18 times goals 2 assist 1 big chances missed 6 big chances created 2 hugely hugely frustrating season for Dominic Alvernon obviously he got them back pre season played in the game against Kiev or Gouldersen scored in it and you're thinking good times good times and then we get the news that yeah get the news that he's not going to be fit that he's got an injury that the room is where it's going to be like 12 weeks you know quietly and you're just thinking well you better get someone sorted yeah we did get someone sorted. Obviously he's come back a couple of times obviously towards the end of the season what did he string together four games was he? Five games but just just I don't know I don't know this just I mean at the beginning of the season I said that we should be buying someone to replace Dominic Alvernon not to play behind them to be second to him we have to start looking past Dominic Alvernon because you can't have centre forwards who don't play games of football it's as simple as that you can't have any players who don't play games of football and I don't the thing about it but I don't know where we are I don't know where we are with them because we've got them back and then he gets an injury at Wolves and it's a separate injury to other injuries he's had and I just don't know where we are with them I know he's got now the whole summer to sort himself out but that is absolutely no guarantee that we're going to ever get Dominic Alvernon a fitness again no and there's no guarantee that he's never going to be fit again he could have had a situation where he's had situation where he's had two years of injuries and then he recovers and is fit again for the rest of his career who knows few knows but it is that uncertainty you know we were in America and he played against Minnesota and he was looking sharp wasn't he and that and you were thinking right great keep that build up go and keep it going but we knew that he wasn't doing all of the training sessions which was weird and he ended up getting injured having a shot at the end of training and then that resulted in him when he did come back to not allowing him to train fully and not having shot away and when Sean Dyche came in after he'd been injured again he was like no I'm gonna I'm gonna give him this breast period because he's always being rushed back on me out there a bit and it looked like it worked a bit and then he got into the kind of wolves and and he's had the you know the thigh the knee the toe the hamstring a few times in the last couple of years and you start looking and going like what else can he doing and this and the hamstring at wolves might have just been he's playing primarily football again regularly and his body's just you know Nathan Patterson got a hamstring injury very much the same thing had interrupted season but the one thing we would say well there's two things one when he's fitting in the side haven't looked at only different team they're a real threat they look the real threat with them brightening away in particular fantastic yeah but you can't count on them and therefore we went into last season he got injured four days before the Premier League season started and like you said the initial thing was he's out for 12 weeks so it was what you get to share out garasi to ended up going up to Germany isn't amazing but it was six foot three and one to the common and almost went on strike in fact days club let him not train for three days because he does he's coming here and for whatever reason flank lamp I pull a plug on that me shouldn't have done because we need the two strikers in as well as them and they for this summer we're doing the same thing now we look we're sat here going well we need two strikers to come in and that is almost discounting them on the call volume show to go and you know what if he's fit brilliant he can battle together but we can't it's almost like yeah you know we can't give it to John Sheehan we can't see you and all that and I'm just a big part of it isn't it because he's been you know when he got injured don't forget the week before the break he got injured against was it Leicester and he had three different separate injuries yeah three separate injuries that's a ffullham and it's a ffullham and he done his shoulder popped out his neck was causing him a problem he got three separate injuries yeah we've got to sort that one and that one to go thankfully there's a break and he didn't want to come back again just around Christmas didn't he and he came back to the city didn't he so it was it was really hard yeah but I don't know what you do with them that's what worries me though the fact that it's always constant different injuries if it was just for example his fight and he had a recurring fight problem that's still bad but maybe you hope with a surgery you can maybe fix it it just seems like the lads entire body is broken like his muscle tissue and all his joints are all just written off and it's not the lads fault he's always injured but we can't rely on him it's not his fault we can't rely on him but we can't his body just can't handle the pace of it team and we it might do maybe you know we'll you'll get lucky and there'll be a spell where he's injury free but we can't bank on that and you know bank on that for some players do it though you know some players do have that like period in the middle where you go the injured all the time and then they come to get over it whether they've changed your diet or whatever it is palaties five times or whatever um and they come through it and then they've managed to body better than the i think that what's so frustrating is i suppose now is you'd like him to be fit right now but resting or just doing not playing games of football but the fact that now he's probably gone another three or four weeks of rehab and then start building up again and then we start then more like looking at them and looking at the season where what you wanted was like six weeks of him not just not kicking a ball but being fit on holiday and it'll be sure i'll get all that i'll get all that but he's got but he'll be rehabbing as well only because he's you know because of his hamstring i maintain and i'm no i'm no expert i just mean i just think it all started coming when he started playing the muslin it and his body just can't take the stress and that happens sometimes in different ways it happens a lot more from a little cocky when he started to be clever and start bulking up at man United and next minute he looked he looked awful and then they found that he was something you know he was putting the wrong stuff in his body i just i don't i said i'm no expert but there's got to be some kind of relation because when he was dead skinny he was fine and once the he started putting stress on his own body his body can't seem to take it and i just wonder where i mean listen the good i suppose the good point is you might be like that's about it might just be an hamstring and see they might look at it now going we know what the process is but that's where you've got to go and get us into folk it'll start games now you're right and loads of people will be saying and we see it all the time in the comments from people on our live shows and all of that it's like but we can't rely on him so therefore he is what he is and i absolutely agree i wouldn't say any different to anybody we can't rely on him and that's frustrating because we see when you see when he's on the top of his game he looks fit he's a handful quick he's doing you know big campaigns are brighting to create goals the awareness is there he had that one a palace where it was almost a world he dragged it back and it didn't decide nothing he looked and going he looked sharp and if he put players around him and but you can't build it on i hope he's fit what has to happen now is everton need to bring in at least one more striker but for me it's got to be two whether that's whether that is Tom Cannon becomes number three and there's Dom then there's a main striker i don't know i don't know i don't know i still personally would like and a Demberlay on a three and another striker a younger one but and then he does almost have to prove his fitness and and that is him being on the bench and trying to force his way into the first you just need someone who's similar don't you someone who couldn't play in that role yeah someone who's an audio threat but also mobile as well you can't get about the pitch as a decent face touching and bring other people into play you don't want to go too far and end up with someone like a that on a two itself hampton who's just a just a jump for the ball and can't do anything but you want someone who can replicate that style of a bit more of an old-fashioned number nine you know you don't you don't need it a big camper a haddy king who's dropping into midfield that's what malplay tries to do and grants these not as good at it you haven't just put malpie in the same no no i'm saying up and cane you know you should have left your glasses on no but i'm saying you know that type of wants wants to come deeper and all that maybe you don't need that but we need someone who can and maybe they're not as good as a fully fit calvert living maybe they're not but they can they keep us in the same style and score goals in their own right and get 10 goals overseas and if they have to play every game because i think if calvert living stays fit those numbers that we just had on screen they are particularly flatter and hardy he's got almost as many big chances missed as malpay in less games but malpay is goals over the course of a season if he's not going out the team injured all the time he's sharp at his score and more goals as we believe that we said that on round the tower last week didn't we but don't forget they asked someone at home and on and on i went on that running rolls at the cross and he's just stressing it rolls over his foot or things like that oh there's so many times like that there's the other thing as well that i think sometimes overlooked is that having him freeze up all the players it's not the fact that you're right and it's big six chances but you can't say malpay seven is terrible and don't it's all right because it isn't he's got to get better at that but when you've got him as your focal point it drags other people all over the place and they for freeze up opportunity as we saw if the likes are bright yeah yeah that's just that we can get something sorted i don't know whether we will or not there you go that has been the season a lot longer than i 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