 Welcome to the RF Elements Unlicensed podcast. I'm your host Caleb Nour and I'm joined with our other host, Tossos AlexEU. What is going on Tossos? What's happening Caleb? Not much going on. What's going on with you man? It's Friday here, right? Friday there. Oh yeah. It's weekend is upon us man. So it's a good day. It's a good day. I feel it in my veins or maybe that's all the monster I drank right before doing this. So I don't know a little column A, a little column B, but that's okay. I can't do that stuff man. I can't do that stuff. I mean, I like monster actually. I like the sugar free monster. That's that's what I drink the white can. It's pretty good stuff, but I mean, I can only have like one every couple of days. I can't do it like every day or multiple a day. I mean, I like my coffee too, right? But I'm like a one coffee kind of guy in the morning and then I'm good to go at that point. I'm charged right for the day. Well, you're about too high strung for me at half the time anyway. So it's probably a good thing. Oh, I've been messing around with these like super turbo espresso cold coffee drinks lately just thinking around here and they're great, but I can feel it killing me. So yeah, yeah, bad stuff, bad stuff. Anyway, all right. Well, today on this here podcast that we're trying to figure out how to make, we've got a great episode. So we're going to talk a little bit about the history of RF elements, where the horns came from, you know, which is what most people know us from and answer that age old question of why exactly are we so horny? But yeah, so we'll just go ahead and lay it down for everybody. You got to clear the air and make sure that we're on the same page. But before we get into that, a lot of things going on lately. What have you seen flying across your radar, either with us in general or in the industry? So I mean, it's very dynamics with things are always changing. This week, though, there's been a lot of conversation about the radio shortages that are out there, radio shortages that are coming. So a lot of discussion this week has really specifically been about, you know, the ubiquity prison, rocket prison radio becoming hard to get some light beam. CPEs are becoming very difficult to get. So, you know, we've been spending or at least I've been spending a lot of my time trying to, you know, give the wisps out there some alternatives for those particular radios. Like, you know, not many people still know that the older first generation Rocket 5 AC light radio is still in full circulation and actually it's in pretty decent quantities available. Now, of course, it's first generation, no active filtering, no GPS synchronization. But the main point here is that it is 100% compatible with all of the Air Max CPEs that you were using with your prism, right? So it's a, you know, stop gap kind of thing. You know, if you have a tower go down, right? I mean, you either have no internet to your customers, right? Or you maybe sacrifice and put up this Rocket 5 AC light in its place until you can get some prisms, at least your customers come online. Maybe their speeds are slightly reduced. I mean, that's fine. Something is better than nothing. And quite frankly, the performance is actually pretty good. We have customers all over Latin America specifically that are delivering 100 megs with the Rocket 5 AC light specifically on our horns because our horns kind of help with the noise rejection. So it may not have active filtering built in as a hardware standard, but the horns themselves help filter out a lot of that stuff. So the performance is really good. And it's again, just a measure that you can use or an option you have. So yeah. And what's really nice about the Twistport architecture that we use in our horns and stuff is it makes swapping those things back out really easily. So you get some prisms in stock, slap them in the Twistport adapter. Then when you go swapping on the radio, it's a simple twist and unlock. And then you get your other radios back on. Then you can take that AC light and go put it somewhere else. You know, use it as a subscriber unit, put it on the back of an ultra dish or something like that real quick and easy makes for a mighty fine CPE device. So especially when you're trying to push long distance with these higher order modulation rates that people are doing, that works really well. The other thing that I'm seeing sort of take off right now is our starter dishes using the ISO stations or even the C5X from Amosa. People are using these starter dishes because it's a very clean install for CPE device. The radio just basically snaps directly to the back of it. It's very, very cost effective. And the RF performance is great. You know, we built those starter dishes to be a low cost alternative to other parabolic dishes out there or integrated CPE unit solutions. But we still keep the really high quality RF characteristics that we developed when we did like the old traditions and stuff. So simplify the mounting architecture and stuff like that, but still really good RF performance. So those are really taken off and we're pushing some verbiage out there in the wild so people know what that looks like. Yeah, and that also brings up another good point out there as far as the shortage goes, not just using our starter dishes as a potential CPE, but it's also natively supports the round form factor radios from Ubiquiti, the ISO station and the prism station, which again, the prism station round radio is another good step in or fill in for the regular Rocket 5 prisms that people are using. And again, they make good CPEs when you couple them with the ISO station. So there's a lot of with the starter dishes. So there's a lot of other options out there for you if you're looking for that. Other than, of course, switching platforms, which is something people can do too. Some people are getting tired of these issues with Ubiquiti, let's say, and they want to just change platforms. The twist port makes it easy to go from Ubiquiti to all of a sudden Cambium, you know, with just a change of an adapter. It's pretty pretty simple. Yep, definitely. So other thing I've seen bounce across my plate here recently just because it's at the tip of my tongue is the new 2.4 gigahertz array sector. Yeah. Patch array sector. Now, we talk a bit of smack about patch array sectors, but, you know, there are cases where it makes sense and 2.4 is a case where, you know, there's probably not going to be a ton of volume for us. This is never going to be, you know, a huge moving product, but it makes a lot of sense for those that are still deploying in 2.4 for very rural areas, you know, very long distance clients. You're trying to shoot through a couple trees here and there sort of near line of sight in these situations where a full blown, you know, mega dollar CBRS deployment doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense financially. So we've had a lot of interest in it. It is now hitting distribution. There are some in stock and they're about to be a lot more in stock here in the States at least. So that's excited. We've had a very small, we've had a small but very vocal contingency in our customer base looking for this. So it's rocking and rolling and we're happy to have it out there. Yeah. Yeah. The array sector line is something that I'm very excited about as well because, you know, there are a lot of frequency bands that, you know, horns are just not practical in, especially the lower frequencies, right? 2.4 being one of those specifically. The wavelength is too large, meaning the adapter would be huge. The antenna would be huge. Not that it's not possible, but it would require a kind of total redesign of everything from the ground up in order to do horns and those frequencies. And it kind of leans into, you know, CBRS and us kind of, you know, starting to move forward into other frequency bands outside of 5GIG. So it's exciting for me to see that it's finally really, really happening and it's really moving forward now. It's good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah. I really would like to see a 900 mega-horns horn at some point just so I've got somewhere to like part my truck inside of it. You still see them everywhere and just pick up those big AT&T towers and stuff like that. You got those big-ass square horn-looking things, man, those long lines or whatever. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So that's all six. But yeah, I think the mega-ultra-horn one day, one day we'll have this. So, well, good deal, man. So let's jump into the heart of our conversation here. We'll talk again, like I said, about the history. Let's talk about horns. You know, we're very known for our horns now that we don't do other things. You know, we've got a lot of dishes. We've got the array sectors that we're just talking about and we'll flush these out in more details later on in further episodes. But, you know, the horns are our main bread and butter. And with that, you know, comes this whole, hey, we're a horny wisp. Let's talk. Let's talk a little bit about the horny-ness and let's get, let's get horny. So that sounds awful. Somebody shoot me, I said. Yeah, do you want to go there? So horny. Let's go there. Okay. Yeah. What do you want to know about the horny history of our film? It's so it makes plenty of sense. You know, when I'm new to the company, you know, but I've known you guys for years and it seems like it's always been there. But, you know, where did this come from and sort of where did it tie into? You know, what's the history of where did these horns come from? You know, you've got a pretty long history, but I think folks would be interested to say, you know, hey, these showed up here with the symmetrical and then the ultra dish and then where did the asymmetricals come from? So give us a walk down memory lane here on this beautiful Friday and let's talk about our horny history. Yeah, it's quite a long history. I mean, it's only been six years, but it seems like it's it's been it's been forever, right? So, you know, the original horns came out around 2015, I believe it was, you know, we did the launch at Wispel Palooza in Vegas for the first time and kind of introduced the horns to the rest of the market was kind of our coming out party for for horns and stuff. So I got to know like when you first launched those and put them up and everyone walked up to it, like, what was the general reaction? Was it like, what the hell is this? Or everybody people pick up the message kind of quickly or not? Everybody thought they were point to point antennas. They're like, wow, these are really cool microwave little antennas. I'm like, no, they're there are sectors are point to multi point. They're like, no way. You know, what do you mean? What do you mean? There's like, you know, these these are actual point to multi point antennas. It's just everybody, you know, thought, you know, point to multi point was long and rectangular like a sector and everything point to point was round like a dish, right? So that was the initial idea and the first thing people thought when when they when they, you know, when we first brought the horns to market their visual perception of what it was all about. But but a sector is supposed to be tall and heavy and have a whole bunch of like weird metal plates bolted on the side and wrap it in aluminum foil and stuff like that. So how could this small light weight easy to deploy unit with his twist port thing? How could that possibly be a sector? Right? Yeah, yeah, definitely. That was it was very confusing. It was very confusing. And then, you know, they'd be like, Oh, tell me more. Right. So you start telling them because obviously it was, you know, eye catching and they're like, All right. Naturally, they want to know. But then when you start saying, Oh, this is our 90 degrees symmetrical horn and it has, you know, 9.6 dbi gained. They're like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, what? How much? I'm like nine and a half dbi of gain. And they're like, Well, that's crap. That's nothing. I need 20 or 21 dbi again. I'm like, Well, not always, you know, and the conversation start, you have to start explaining to them, you know, what's your deployment like, you know, a lot of these people were, you know, trying to connect clients at half a mile or less using 20 dbi sectors and stuff like that. And that's where all this noise comes into play and how we started, you know, kind of putting our message out there. It's like, Well, if you have less antenna gain, you have less received sensitivity and therefore you also hear less noise and basically you improve your SNR. So that's kind of how that message all started and how we started, you know, putting it out there into the world. So you mean I don't want to hear the noise like five or eight miles away for my subs that are a mile away, like, come on, man. That's so counterintuitive. I did, man. It took a long time to kind of really educate and get people to at least start thinking about our concept of noise isolation. I mean, there's the whole thing between not having side lobes and all the other things that help us isolate against noise, but really having everything from 30 degree to 90 degree horns and 10 degree steps and at different gains is really another tool in the toolbox of how you utilize this. I mean, people still use, you know, oversize or overgain antennas for much smaller distances because they think that's how you, you know, that's how you dominate noise is just by screaming over it, right? Or hearing over it and stuff like that. And it's really this, you know, noise isolation of not having side lobes and again, the reduced the reduced gain of the antennas reduces the amount of noise you hear. So it's really, you know, it's really deployment specific, which antenna works, works best for you. And, you know, at first, of course, we were mocked, right? Everybody laughed at us. Yeah, it's not going to happen. But I remember, I remember like our second year at Wisp of Palooza and definitely our third year at Wisp of Palooza where, you know, I, I'm really good at faces. I'm not the best with names all the time. But if I see a face, I remember it, right? So I remember everybody that I talked to and I'm like an elephant in that way. I actually remember, you know, the majority of those conversations. And it was funny to see the second year at a third year because when people started using it, they wouldn't tell anybody, you know? So like the second year you're at the show and you're out there with the same wears and you'd see guys kind of like walk by and like kind of look at you and like walk by and then they kind of come back and it slowly ease in, right? And where they used to yell at you and say you're dumb for thinking that this thing would actually work. And they're like, hey, man, you know, those horns actually work. You know, they're like embarrassed to admit that, you know, we were right and that they, you know, they wish they would have listened earlier and tried it and stuff like that. So there's a whole, a whole evolution of all that stuff and how it went down. And then fast forward to this year. So I started in April 1st. So I don't know if that bodes well for me or not. We'll see. Maybe better for me than you guys. But, you know, we had the Dallas show, the Whisp America show, like three weeks later. So I went to booth bouncing around doing my pitch and everyone's like, man, your horns are awesome. You've really done all those great stuff. And I'm like, yeah, definitely. I've been working really hard, you know, making sure that you guys are successful. So got to, got to soak up a lot of that extra credit on that, which was pretty cool. But yeah, it's been pretty wild how the shift in conversation has been. So yeah, I mean, it took a while, right? So again, there was a, there was an, there's been an evolution or, you know, evolution, or yeah, there's been an evolution of our message and how we kind of, you know, send this information out there and educate Whisp's and we try and change and tailor our message to help people understand it because everybody, you know, learns in a different way. So you need different examples of how this thing affects you as a Whisp to make it click in your head and people finally get it and people eventually want to try it. And, you know, the evolution of, you know, how the customers, you know, didn't talk about our horns changing into always talking about our horns is a whole nother story as well, right? So, you know, at first people were, you know, I don't, they didn't want to talk about it, right? A lot of them were treating it like proprietary information or like, holy crap, this stuff really works. If I tell my customer or my competitor knows about it, then he's going to use it and he's going to be able to offer the speeds at home. So, so people kept it, you know, like, you know, intellectual property for themselves, right? So that's was the first kind of generation of people out there in social media with the product. And eventually it got out to the masses and everybody wants to talk about it and everybody's posting pictures and everybody's proud of these 12, 24 and even like 30 horn installations. And that's kind of where the horniness thing kind of came from and how that evolved into, you know, the social media sphere of everything in our marketing, you know? Yeah. And then, you know, they learned too that they didn't have to be afraid of their competitors using it because the more their competitors use horns and everyone's cuts back on all that noise just being squirted all over the place with these noisy sectors, you know, it only helped everyone. So it was one of those where all floating boats, blah, blah, blah, everyone does better. So yeah. And it was funny because everybody back then, you know, they used to complain that nobody wanted to frequency coordinate with one another. And really the truth was even if they wanted to frequency coordinate, they couldn't coordinate because all the side lobes, all the noise there was just no effective way of really doing that. And now the precision of our antennas with no side lobes and it actually only goes kind of where you point it. You actually are able to frequency coordinate with your competitors and stuff. So it actually not only makes it possible but people realize that, you know, they both win when they play well with each other like that. Definitely, definitely. So the symmetricals were first, obviously. And then we went through a second generation, mechanical improvements and things like that. We're always, always tinkering of things, making it better. And then the big daddy ultra horn was somewhere in that middle phase, which I'm a huge fan of the ultra horn. It's pretty cool. Ultra horn rocks man. It's an extreme measure but by golly, sometimes you got to swing at big sticks. So and then the asymmetrical sectors came out and I think that's really what sort of drove that that coincided with the big boom and popularity, especially with the widths that were not necessarily dealing with the really small ranges or the really high density. But that's that sort of middle ground where, you know, your ranges are not extreme but you know, definitely not, you know, quarter mile and stuff or half mile or whatever it may be. And the densities weren't super high. So what did, what do you see the asymmetrical sectors sort of doing for the next leg of what the horns were doing? Well, I mean, they kind of serve two purposes, right? So there was, you know, the symmetrical horn really is the smaller symmetrical horns really is a an antenna for really high density. Not that you can't achieve that with the asymmetrical but that was really kind of the first generation and how those things work. We had a huge portion of our customer base or potential customer base out there that just didn't need that density, right? They had longer distances to cover with less customers in a wider angle of view, right? So, you know, they needed basically a sector, right? They needed that type of coverage. So that's where the asymmetrical horns come into play with a much higher gain at a much wider beam angle than its symmetrical counterpart, right? So really this really helps go out into those areas. Now, what we're finding, right? As again, radios evolve, you know, the antennas need to evolve with them to be able to, you know, match their requirements. These higher modulation radios actually require more antenna gain, right? Because people still are trying to kind of push the limits of their coverage areas and stuff like that. So you need, you know, antennas with more gain. It just helps that ours have no side lobes. So we're again, at least focusing all that game that receives sensitivity in the direction that you actually need it. So it kind of plays two things in there, you know? Yeah, and it's definitely what I see it as is kind of the best of both worlds. Now, you know, there's different ways to deploy and this is why I think our link calculator that you will hear us, we will fly that link calculator flag a lot during this and basically everything we do. I may need to get a big banner back here on the wall, this empty wall back here. But, you know, the link calculator allows you to look at your coverage areas, look at your multi-CPE layouts, place your CPEs, see where your pattern is going to be, the modulation rates that you're going to pull for a particular client and do things like play around with a down tilt. You know, a lot of people aren't used to utilizing down tilt as a tool. They were just like, hey, we need to get it just down enough to hit our clients. Well, with the large elevation cuts we've got on the horns and the different versions, depending on the different horn, there's a lot of stuff you can really do with those and do wide coverage areas and really hilly terrain, mountains and stuff like that. So play around and, you know, used to down tilt two degrees max, maybe three. Well, we're talking horns. I mean, we can roll 10 or more. So run that link calculator, play around with it. If you got any questions, reach out to us. We will walk you through it. We spent a lot of time doing that because once you figure that out, then you figure out the bulk of, you know, what the RF planning on this looks like for sure. Yeah, link calculator is a great tool. We've spent a lot, a lot of time and it's, you know, we always push that it's a calculator, not a planner, but, you know, over time it's starting to grow into actually being a kind of network planner. And we spent a lot of time not only developing it, but trying to work with the radio manufacturers out there because that's another thing, you know, you can go into kind of a generic link calculator and kind of put, you know, your TX power, your antenna gain, and it'll give you the basic, the basic distances that you can run based on basic link calculation, but we actually work with Mamosa. We actually work with Cambium and we recently were able to work with Microtech to kind of get the detailed received sensitivity data that we need for all the different MCS rates that the radios are capable of operating in. So that way now, with that data, we can give you highly precise and actually it's extremely accurate what kind of distances you're gonna get, where the MCS levels start to drop from, you know, the highest modulation down to low modulation and plot that all out on a map. So it's extremely useful and it's very beneficial for customers to learn how to use that tool and go give it a try. Definitely, you want to use it. You want to use it for sure. Definitely. So that said, let's talk about giving horny. So the first time I went to a trade show and came back with one of the shirts. It was one of the, when the first Are You a Horny with shirt came out. So a little background for those that don't know me. I'm a bit of a large fella, a little girthy. And, you know, I come back from these shows and I got a handful of t-shirts, the ones I think are cool, but most of them don't really fit, you know. So I ended up just giving my wife her sleep shirt. So she's got like trade shows from across the world full of companies and languages. She has no clue. So I came back and I was unpacking my suitcase. I was like, babe, here's this new shirt for you. And she looks, she's like, are you a horny with? She's like, what the hell is this? And at the time I'm like, I don't know. They make horns or whatever. So fast forward a few years and now I am super horny. So where did that come from? And then like the whole, the horn, the plural version of the story that you told me is actually super interesting. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, on social media, it all started with a customer. What really wasn't us. There was a customer out there that had deployed whatever, you know, eight or nine horns on his tower and he was super excited about it. We were super excited about it, right? To see people actually, you know, doing the things we said that you could do with her horns and stuff like that. And he was just like, hey, I'm a super horny wisp. Check me out, you know, whatever. And we're all, everybody started laughing. Like that's pretty funny, right? The ironic thing there is that, you know, we had recently internally been talking about, you know, some catchy marketing, whatever, and that the word like, hey, horny wisp had, you know, had come up in our conversation. And, you know, in a lot of our team meetings and team calls and stuff, it's pretty much done in English no matter where we're at, but every once in a while, they switched to Slovak, you know, and I've been there a gazillion times and stuff. And I hear lots of words, right? Mostly, you know, I know a lot of the cuss words, obviously, but there are other words that, you know, that just stick and I remember always hearing horny, horny, horny in a lot of conversations and, you know, long story short, horny is just plural, horn, right? So it's more than one horn is horny. So that's how we, you know, kind of said that maybe we should use that and somebody obviously beat us to it and kind of did it. So we, there was really no debate at that point. It kind of took off to, so to speak, go viral in the industry. And yeah, that's kind of how the horny wisp, you know, came to be, I guess, you know? Yeah, that's funny. I get it. I mean, it makes total sense. And, you know, definitely a lot of our marketing efforts are a little tongue-in-cheek sometimes. We get a little froggy with it to sort of push. So it is funny though, you know, doing presentations like for sort of standard customer base. I mean, we're both very casual folks and I am most of us and you know, we're super serious about the work we do. But at the same time, you know, just super cash about our talking and conversation. You can see that here, but there are times where I'm doing a presentation. I'm like, this one's a little stuffier, a little corpus. Let me control after this presentation and make sure it doesn't actually say horny in here somewhere. So I mean, quite honestly, I mean, horny is not that bad, right? It's not that dirty or that edgy and stuff like that. So I mean, it's just kind of a, it's a light edge to be, you know, to be used compared to, you know, some of the cuss words we've used and some of the bracelets we have and yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll get into that some other point. So well, that's cool, man. So that's awesome. Yeah, I got a sack of them here that I need to start spreading out, but well, cool man. No, I think this has been a very informative little chat here kind of about the history, where things came from, where some of the funny parts of things came from. So getting people learned up, educated about what we do. And I think that's a real important part of what we're trying to do with those podcasts, you know, super casual format, very informal and we're going to flex around with it. And the big part of what we want to do with this is get feedback from, you know, folks out in the wild. Absolutely. Absolutely. We want to know what you want to hear, right? What you want us to talk about, you know, what we should, you know, be shedding more light on in the industry as a whole. You know, it could be, you know, something from the equipment side. It could be something from the legislative side. I mean, whatever it is, we want to know. We want to know. Yeah, we can, you know, toss, you especially have the gift of gab. So, I mean, we can both bounce up here and just talk about whatever we've all been doing this a little while. So, you know, we can get up here and just run our mouths the whole time. But yeah, let's, you know, you guys let us know. Where should we focus? What are we going to point at? We're going to start doing guests at some point here. So bring some folks on, share your story, talk about things that you've run into or crazy stories from the field. I don't know. Maybe we'll have some crazy ass story segment or something. So let's, let's figure out what's entertaining and which you guys did the crazies, the crazy story segment. We will have to sort of screen those. Right. So take a, take a few takes. So we'll have a, maybe we'll have a PG version and an after dark version. We'll figure that out. Our filaments after hours, after dark. So that's cool, man. So I think it's about time to wrap it up here. You know, like you said earlier, it's Friday. We were both getting a little jumpy to get our weekends going on. I know I've been, I've been doing a math trying to figure out what I'm going to cook this weekend. I've been on this big barbecue cook. I always have, but lately, especially I've gotten a little bit more keyed up. Maybe, maybe the competition has kind of gotten me stirred up here a little bit. So, so, but then trying different stuff too. So I've tried the, what is it? Oh, the smoke and then fried wings. I've tried that at a time or two and never worked out, but I'm going to try something different. I'm going to smoke them and then draw them off real good and hit them with a flash fry and then the sauce and stuff. I think maybe give that a shot, maybe do American cheese. I don't know. We'll figure something out. Yeah. I've been looking, I've been looking into the frying thing, man. I've been watching some, you know, cooking shows and stuff and man, just been seeing these Carol like chicken sammies and everything that people are making up some fried chicken, fried fish, fried shrimp. I mean, fried up every way. And, you know, I'm kind of, you know, habit forming, right? You know, I have an addictive personality on some of those things that I do. Like I got into smoking, which is all about smoking. You know, there you saw me go into my sourbread baking phase. You know, all of that stuff. I went through my griddle phase and, you know, I jumped back and forth and sometimes incorporate both, right into it, but frying is just something I'm just like, hmm, I don't know. I see a deep fryer being purchased in my future and maybe you'll start seeing some of that in my social media stuff, some fried, some fried goodies coming up, I think. I think that's where I might go. Oh, this is, this is not where my heart needs to go, but I'm kind of right there with you. I was, I was sitting on the sofa on my laptop the other night looking at one of his big fancy stainless steel outdoor deep fryer setups, one of those four gallon rigs and stuff from my bio classic or something. So I'm looking at it and getting all excited. My wife walks up behind me to ask me something. She's just like, no, no, we're done. No, no, we've got enough stuff outside. No. And I'm like, well, well, I am kind of running out of space. And if I keep this up, I'm going to be a heart attack broke, but I don't know. It keeps me amused. So I also saw some cat was griddling. They were, what was it? It was absolute garbage food. Oh, they were taking sausage patties, frying them up, dunking them in pancake batter and then making pancakes out of them. And I'm like, man, I don't know if I've gotten to that point in my life yet, but we'll see. We'll see. Yeah, that's pushing it. That's definitely pushing it right there. Depends on how much liquid brain power I pick up over the weekend. We'll see how things go. So all right, man. Well, thank you for everyone listening to us. You know, this is new. We're trying to figure it out to those of y'all that are still here. We absolutely appreciate it. If you want to find us, we are all over social media. We have the RF Elements Facebook group. We have the Facebook page. Then we've got the RF Elements English Facebook group, which is big. We've got RF Elements Español. We've got RF Elements Asia, which we just fired up as we get more and more inquiries from that region. We've got a YouTube channel where we put out tons of informative educational content there. We've got our website, ton of good info there. And we're just, we're around. So you guys let us know. Again, anything you want to hear, let us know any feedback and we will greatly appreciate it. Yeah, we're not hard to find. We're out there. So until next time, everybody, stay horny. All right, y'all be good. Stay horny.