 everybody, I am so, I almost forgot to hit records, to be honest with you guys, because I've said this so many times, all the people I've filmed with on a regular basis are my actual in real life friends, even though we met through YouTube, through Zoom, Shanti and Mornay are family to me at this point. And so we get to chit chatting about life, and all of a sudden I'm like, wait a minute, I should hit record. So, so, so happy to have them with me today. How you guys doing Mornay and Shanti from Aquarius Rising African and Solutions by Aquarius Rising Africa, which those things will be on the description box below. How are y'all doing? Really good, really good, thank you. Winter's coming here, which is probably a good thing, maybe not so good, because you had a very late summer and looks like an early winter as well. But other than that, really good things are happening, things are moving, the energies are crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, but at the end of the day, you know, yeah, yeah, really gotta get out of this chit show and turn it into a gold show, right? No, every day it's like, I wonder what happens today? Like, what's gonna happen today? It could be exciting, yeah, exactly. And I have to say, I always think laughter is such the best medicine because that's one thing Dartmouth doesn't understand is humor. And it's such a high, to be able to, and I know a lot of spiritual teachers have said that the highest form of spirituality is laughter. And I was telling Shanti and Mornay before we recorded that the episode I did on their show on Monday, we were having some fun joking around, saying that this was an open book test. And I got so many positive emails and responses about how you guys were laughing right along with us. And I don't wanna speak for them, but for me, as someone who has been blessed to have a platform, that's part of why I have the platform is that we can all laugh together with the audience or cry together or like figure things out together. And so I appreciate you guys the feedback. We were having fun. If you can't laugh, you would cry. So I appreciate all you guys for letting us know that because I consider our viewers to be our friends as well because we're literally all trying to figure all this out together. And- The sense of- The sense of, yeah. Like, do we really sign up for this? Like, I always laugh about the hunger gains where she goes, I volunteer as tribute. Like, will we really, the soul's out there being like, I'll do this? Like- Can we see your mind and like abort mission at any time? No. But no, it's such an honor to be, because without this shit show, I wouldn't know Mornay and Shanti. And I'm sure that people watching, there's so many people out there that you have in your life now that you would not have had in your life if it wasn't for everything that's happened to us, knowingly happened to us in like the last, what, six years? Since like 2016. But obviously many people have been awake for longer. And so if it wasn't for that, there's always a silver lining. And it's funny, because before we were filming, we were talking about all the new things that are coming up. And I know on the Cassio Pian forum, they have said that we are in for more suffering. Like we're gonna go through some more really hard times. And it's almost like when you, like Shanti talks a lot about alchemy as well, like when you clean gold, when you boil, you have to put heat on it to make it boil so that the impurities can come up. So you can wipe those impurities away. And that friction that's created is what forces that change. And something that Shanti has helped me a lot with is understanding our own vibrational frequency. And I know Shanti did some major healing on me. And she said something that really, really struck me that when you're being attacked either energetically or whatever, the way to stop it is to raise your frequency so high that it can't even touch you. And that's something that I know Catherine and I have talked about. And one thing I believe, we are the storm. What does that mean that we have to start, we gotta stop like crying about being in a pity party over what's happening and actually work on ourselves. Because when we take that initiative and that accountability to do our own shadow work, to raise our own vibration, that's when things shift. That's when things collectively, the collective consciousness shifts. And so I'm gonna shut up now because I want Mornay and Shanti to take over, but here, there's the answer. Yeah, you said it beautifully because more shifting is the greener that grows at the end of the day. And if you look at it, I can see there's gonna be more suffering, obviously, because we've got so much healing still to be done. I can remember when I started my journey with Shanti 12 years ago, at that stage, I was like, wow, everybody must be awake right now. At 2012, when we launched our book, I thought, wow, everybody must be ready for it right now. And I just realized that life is not like when we show it to be. This people are asleep in the sense of people are still, are so much stuff that still needs to be released and healed. And if you look at this evil agenda and the people, they actually look into those weaknesses, weaknesses inside of ourselves. And as soon as we get that healing process starting within ourselves, and the sooner we raise our vibration, the sooner these guys don't have control anymore. They can't take our power. Remember, this is a spiritual battle. It's not like you're a victim in this and you didn't know, you could play victim and blame and be angry. That's not going to help anybody. It's just, we've got to realize that this is a spiritual battle. And like Shantel loves to say it, energy first, then actions of what? Yeah, energy first, then it happens, you know? So first... That's the action second, yeah. Yes, yeah. So we first need to do that. And the sooner we get to this place, let's just start talking about healing. Let's stop. Yes, we have to be aware of what's going on around us. Yes, of course. But we have to spend a lot more focus on how we're going to... Process it and heal. Yeah, yeah. Because we created, we're part of this. It's not like one person in one group is to blame, we're all to blame. Yeah. So we're going to get over that and just start healing. It's so much there, it's so much we can do. And that's why I love, you brought us up in the show today to talk about this beautiful healing and spiritual stuff. You took one of the Cassiopeia and said to you, part of this process is accepting that you're the problem as well, that we have been the problem. All these bad things these people have done, we've allowed it to happen. And part of that process is accepting that, not just blaming them for what they're doing, but reflecting on ourselves and how we allowed this to happen. That's the first step in like, it's like that slingshot. I love this analogy. The more you pull a slingshot back, when you release it, the further it will go. So you think about pulling back into the darkness, the more you pull back into your own shadow work, once that releases, right into flight. It's a little bit. I've got a similar one. Sorry. Yeah, the girl. Okay, quickly, it's like a well. The deeper you dig, and the digging is sometimes very, it hits, you know, you have to break grounds. The more water you can fill the well with. So the more love you can have. So dig, dig, dig, dig, dig. But yeah. You know, there's really, there's, I mean, I honestly live by the golden rule. Everything in life is energy, everything. You know, God created this universe from pure, powerful, positive, vibrating energy. And every frequency within itself is pure and good. And you can imagine frequencies are like hair, cazillions of them. And while it's, they are vibrating in harmony and beautifully, it's think of someone with long, beautiful flowing hair. But the minute they get knotted up and gunked up, the energy ceases to flow, okay? So energy in itself, every frequency in itself is pure. And beautiful. How we as humans take those frequencies and connect them or not them or plant them determines whether they are positive or negative, right? So we create from the energy. You can bake a delicious chocolate cake, for example, using top of the range ingredients or you can bake a chocolate cake and put liver in it, which is really not gonna give you a very good experience, right? So really at the end of the day, energy can never be created or destroyed only ever transferred or transformed. Now, when we look at others and blame others, we are transferring that energy. And that is where the problem lies because the minute we blame someone else for something, we disempower ourselves completely actually to blame someone for something is probably the most disempowering thing you could do to yourself. So when you take it within and you understand that each person is a mirror, each situation is a mirror, then you can start transforming it. And that's where the alchemy lies. So you then take it within you and that sadness. And we talk about anger, for example. Many people are very angry right now. And how do we transform anger? How do we get rid of anger? How do we get anger out of us? How do we release the anger from us? Well, you don't wanna be doing that. If you are feeling anger, that is your emotion. And the way to change anger is through compassion. That's the first thing. And it's not about showing the other person compassion. That's not where it begins. Because, or the situation, because it's very difficult to show when you're angry with someone and you're in that 3D mode of they did this and look at them and when you're on that path of just destructive mind thoughts and things, it's very difficult to see that person in a compassionate light. Let's face facts. So I'm not asking you to show the person compassion. But what I'm suggesting you do is you show yourself compassion. So it's like you take that angry part. Let's say you feel it in your heart or in your belly or in your head or wherever. And you just imagine a mother wrapping her arms around a newborn baby. Or if you have a baby or if you've ever had a baby, imagine yourself holding your anger like you would hold your newborn child or your toddler that is in a bad space or has just hurt itself or in pain or whatever. And all you do is you just say, it's okay. So it starts with that. And then you start showing your own emotions, compassion, because then you're gonna see that anger or resentment that you are feeling towards the other. A, anger is a mask for fear and pain. Take the mask of anger off and then recognize what fear or what pain is driving that emotion. That's the first thing. That immediately then neutralizes that emotion. And then I suggest you start journaling. I have a beautiful purple bling glitter journal and it's called My Letters to God. So every morning or every evening, once a day at least, I write a letter to God. And if I'm pissed off beyond pissed off, I will tell God why I'm angry. And I'll say, please just, when you write back, show me what I need to see. Because you know, sometimes me, I'm a little bit more. So just show me how I can recognize what I need to recognize in your letter back to me. So whether it's in a dream that you speak to me, which God often speaks to me as in a dream, because if I open my mind up to receiving dreams, I'll get them. Or an insight or through someone else having a conversation with me or something, but God always gives me a message back. And you've just got to be awake and aware. That's how I would say we begin this process. Because it's very difficult to try and understand where do I begin taking responsibility for my emotions or taking responsibility for my anger or how do I begin to trust myself? All of these things, because these are things we need to learn. If we're gonna move into a fifth dimensional awareness or the new earth consciousness, we need to learn new ways of thinking. We need to learn new ways of doing things. We need to learn new ways of being basically. And it begins here. And I think all of us right now can identify very strongly with the emotion of anger. And to change that, we want to start being compassionate with ourselves. Because as the Buddha said, anger is like holding a hot coal in your hand with the intention of throwing it at someone. And the only person who's getting burnt is you. So it's about learning how to just let it go, nurse your hand. And then when you've seen the compassion and you've felt compassion towards yourself, then you can look at the other person and then all the situation. Then automatically you start feeling compassion towards them as well. It's not something you try to do to feel better about someone else because you're never gonna get it right like that. I can promise you that now. It happens of itself when you have shown yourself compassion and you have understood you are hurting and you are angry and you feel rejected. You feel abandoned. You feel whatever these things are that are hidden behind the anger. So we begin with that. That's all. And that's where we begin. That's where we begin. In Mary Magdalene's Gospel, I don't know if y'all have read Mary Magdalene's Gospel but it's basically a lot of these concepts are in it which is why the church banned it. But she talks about the wisdom of the wrathful person. That there is wisdom in your anger. And it's kind of what you're saying, Shanti, like if you're able to recognize and kind of look at these emotions as like a nugget of gold or gold that's like wrapped in mud and you just kind of kind of peel it back because she does talk about that, the wisdom of the wrathful person. And what I find with anger, of course I talk about the friction a lot. If we just like sailed through life with no issues and there was no hurt, no fear, no anger, none of that, we would be like the lizard on the rock just sunning all day. Like nothing would ever happen to evolve us and change us. And so with this anger, fear, sadness, there is wisdom in that. And she talked about hearing from God. I have so many weird experiences and I remember one time not too long ago I was driving and I was really in this state of like sadness. I was really missing someone, a friend of mine. Like that hadn't spoken to like really missing this person. And I was driving, I usually have my radio turned up really loud cause I just love music. But it was like, I turned it down and then it kind of, it was in between a song and all of a sudden this voice came through the radio that said, it's okay to miss someone. And then it went back into the advertisement, the commercial and I knew that was God. Like I knew it was God saying, it's okay to miss someone. Don't be mad at yourself for being in this longing. It's okay to miss someone. It's okay to honor that feeling. And I think that's, I think, especially in the Western world, especially as Americans, like we're always trying to keep up with the Joneses and we have to put in with social media, you have to put this front up. And so when these uncomfortable feelings come up, the first is accepting that, that that's part of the human experience. It's part of humaning, you know? It's part of what it means. Probably one of the main reasons why you came here is cause I quote you a lot, Shanti. Cause I love it. You say, we came here to learn what we are not. We should put that on a T-shirt. Like that is, that's why we came here. Exactly. Exactly. Because through that you learn who you are. It's almost like you realize, okay, I don't like this. Then you realize, okay, I like this. So it's really true. Yeah. And I just wanted to act with compassion as Shanti was talking about. I have compassion and that's why we teach compassion in the sun kids as well, the soul school. It's a main subject because only through compassion, one gets to wisdom. It's only in compassion that you truly get understanding. It's that moment of compassion that you truly understand. You know, I'm talking about the emotional stuff. It's only through compassion that you can truly understand the situation. And that's where wisdom comes from. So compassion brings wisdom to wisdom in that sense. Not knowledge, not knowing. And yeah, people have, people are scared to be human. And they think human is, you have to be like this and this and you can't feel bad things because feeling bad things is bad. But being human is feeling everything. Like you were talking about missing somebody. Sadness is part of this love. That's one word people throw out there. Love and love and God is two words. People misuse in this world for me. They like use it everywhere and then nobody understands it. There's the opposite of love. Love is every emotion. All spectrum of emotion, love is. Love will. And I love Keelka Brown. That's a beautiful thing about love. If love calls for you, you should hear it's call and it will. It's only when you found worthy and everything. I love that Keelka Brown on love thing. But basically love is every emotion. It's a sadness, it's betrayal, it's everything. And love is complete. But when things are out of balance, it feels bad. But it's still complete. It's still love. Everything is there. You just need to like rebalance, like rewiring and the love is complete. And you will feel sadness and you will feel anger. But then it won't be a reaction or something that you have to press. It will be a natural. And you can start speaking the language of your soul. Then we can start telecommunicating. I mean, if our hearts can start speaking the language but it's meant to speak, we don't need to talk. We will just like our animals, we need animal communication. They walk in the room, you feel them walking in the room. If they say, I do feel them saying, okay, what you said about? We don't need to talk a lot. We don't need to talk a lot. If we need to talk, I think we'll be singing. We'll sing. Or justify, I just heard that justify. Like I feel like as human being sometimes when we are in the space to acknowledge an emotion then we then feel the need to justify it. Like why we're feeling this way. And sometimes it's okay just to acknowledge that you're a human being and this is what you're feeling. You don't have to prove it to someone else that you're worthy of feeling the anger. You're worthy of feeling a sadness. It's what it is. And yeah, I was took animals. I think we have so much to learn from animals because animals don't, they don't seem to hold on. Some do, but you know, like, I know Catherine's talked about this as well. Like, you know, if my dog does something wrong and I, you know, oh no, no, he's not upset for very long, you know? Because he knows that, I think he feels that regardless of whether he's done, he's been naughty or not, he knows that I would give my life for him, you know? He knows that underneath that is love, you know? Whereas as human beings, sometimes I think we forget that. We forget that. That, that we don't love. The same like when we were kids, you know? You were getting a fight with your friend and you were like fighting for five minutes or 10 minutes and then 50 minutes later, you were like playing together, you know? Are your brothers and sisters, yeah? That's like, yeah, big time. Well, the brothers and sisters are a little bit different. They can't go out for days, maybe. I saw the funniest meme about a sibling. A sibling is someone you would give an organ for. Like, you would give an organ for a sibling, but you're not gonna let them borrow your charger. Like, they can't borrow your phone charger, but you would give them a kidney. Very complicated relationship, but you would totally give them a kidney, but they can't borrow your phone charger, so. I'm not even sure if I'd give them out a kidney right now. I'll be quite honest with you. Now, those are sibling relationships, man. Those are sometimes, I don't think my sister and I actually have much karma because we have a very even-killed relationship, but those are very interesting learning, learning relationships. How wild is that? You literally grow up in this house with this other human being that shares the same parents as you do. You spend your childhood together and how many siblings have you met that say there's like three or four of them? They're close in age. They've all grown up in the same house, but every single sibling will give you a replay of a very different childhood. They all have different perspectives and that just shows you how complicated and how we are all very wired in a different way. And a lot of that, I believe, is things that we decided on before taking this life in order to learn the lessons we needed to learn. You know? Definitely. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that we choose our parents, we choose our experiences, we choose our family and the family dynamic is probably, for most people, the toughest that there is, you know? The blood, the blood, the blood, blood, blood. I don't want to say bloodline, but it's your flesh and blood, basically, definitely. Those are very, very often the most challenging. Oh, yeah, definitely, for sure. Yeah. And I always say that when we come here for, well, with my family, at least, we loved each other so much, we came here to show each other our shit. So they're like, please. And with doing, since I started doing the digging work, I have to say, my childhood has changed, like, I mean, I can't even know how many times my childhood, my idea of, you know, my perception of my childhood has changed so many times, every time I discover something or see something differently. So yes, everybody has their own perspective and it's only a point of view of their own perspective. Yeah. Once you go inside of yourself, you get so many point of views and once you get that 360 degree point of view, you know, there's so many, you know. For me, everything is about communication. It really, really is, you know. I think the most challenging experiences can be resolved through communication. You don't have to agree. You don't have to agree with the other person. But it's, you know, when, I mean, in my family, for example, I'm definitely the odd one out. I mean, I'm the only one who doesn't carry a family name. I'm the only one who's RH negative. They'll all turn even numbers and I'll turn an uneven number, you know. So definitely in many ways. I'm a communicator. So I like to express my emotions and I like to express what I feel so that we can understand each other. My family likes to sweep things under the carpet. So they don't like to, it's like, don't say anything. Just don't say anything. I mean, for me, that drives me insane, actually. It's like, we need to speak. You know, you don't have to, for example, agree with each other, but we can respect each other. And you know, it's like, I was just actually saying, for example, in with Tom Althaus's show last night, it's like doing the work I'm doing now, especially I've always been a different one in my family, for sure. But especially during the work I'm doing now and really digging up the stuff that we're digging up, it's like become even more, you know, probably half of them understand what's going on, but they roll over and play dead, you know. And the other half is, I'm a conspiracy theorist spreading misinformation. Yeah. So for me, that is tricky. I'm not gonna tell a lie because it's like, if it's not even about me, I'm not the one that has been and abused in the worst possible ways, but so many people have. So, you know, it's like, how do we not express it? How do we not do something about it? You know, I get that we're all in different places, but I think that's why for me, communication is so important and especially in the family because here we go to talk, you know, I mean, it begins with your own flesh and blood. So it's about learning how, I think, to find a bridge within your own personal family. And when you've been able to resolve that, it makes it much easier to then deal with the outside world. I think when you know that your family has your back, you know that you've got your family in your corner, that type of thing. I think life becomes a lot. It's like having a spouse, but it's so wonderful to get up in the morning and know that you've got a fabulous partner in your life who has your back, right? So, and I think that, I think, as I'm sitting here now, would be a really good place for most people to start, whether it's your family or whether it's your relationship that you are in, is to find that camaraderie with another. And from there, you feel like you're just more equipped to deal with life, and especially when challenges come by, and especially in these times, you know, because these are challenging times. It's like Tom was saying last night as well, certain people on the verge of losing their homes, we are probably gonna need to open our homes to people soon, you know, invite them in, feed them. And I mean, you know, offer compassion in ways like that. I was thinking about that last night, actually. I had a dream about, I wasn't in Atlanta, I was somewhere else, but I was with a bunch of people and we were opening up like, it was almost like we had this like apartment complex, but we owned it, and we were opening up all these rooms for all these families to move in. And it was almost like an emergency situation where there was no checking backgrounds. It was just like, bring your kids, come on, come inside. So it's wild, he just said that. And I woke up and I was like, what was that? Like, I don't even know where that came from, but it was, it was, my mom was there, and it was like ushering people in, and I didn't recognize the building or anything, but it was, yeah, it's wild. And I really, I truly think, you know, when we talk about suffering and that sort of thing, it really is about becoming community-orientated now as well. We're gonna have to learn how to share. You know, in Africa, yeah, the African people have a wonderful culture. They call it really Ubuntu. And that is sharing, you know? And isn't it funny as well? People on the streets who are begging and another beggar comes and says, do you have a dollar? It'll be the other beggar that gives them a dollar. You know, these people running will say, go get a job or go do something or whatever, and I'm not gonna lie, I often give people money and stuff like that, but there are times I think, do you just go wash a car or do something? But please, you know, how many times can I be giving people money every day? You know, I'm not gonna say those thoughts have definitely crossed my mind as well, but I think that there's a wonderful thing here where it's like the family or it's everyone in the village is your family. You know, you take care of each other's kids, you take care of each other's mothers, you take care of each other's fathers. So I really think the time is coming where we are gonna be called to take care of each other. And I was having a wonderful conversation with one of my good friends the other night in Janisburg. And it's like we were saying, we need to take care of each other now. You know, that really is. And even if it's a phone call once a week or what have you and just have a glass of wine or whatever it might be, chatting and having a pizza, you know, on Zoom or something, that's the kind of thing. And I think a lot of people, because I also think a lot of people are gonna exit in the next two years. So yeah, I think in the next two to four years, we need to, we've got to bite the bullet and we have to really just make sure that spiritually we are enriched so that we are able to be that support, kindness, compassion for the other. And we've got to stop thinking this is my home, my electricity, my water, my coffee. Yeah. Yeah, we've got to really learn to open our hearts and our homes and learn. Otherwise that's gonna be forced upon us because we've separated and segregated ourselves so much. I was gonna, I meant to say this in the beginning, but we got to chat, speaking of it, I'm doing this like love challenge that started this week. I saw this on Twitter a few weeks ago. It says, it's a sign someone made. It says, I love you. You're probably thinking you don't even know me. But if people can hate for no reason, I can love. And so I put this challenge out this week. The due date is Monday the 21st for our community watching to make a sign saying that in your mother tongue, whatever your mother tongue is, whatever country you live in, take a picture of it. If you wanna be in the picture, you can be, if not, no worries and then email it to esotericatlantalc at gmail.com. This is an email I opened up just for this project. So esotericatlantalc for love challenge with your picture, what country you're in and if you wanna put your name in there, go ahead and I'm gonna make a reel of everyone all over the world putting these signs up. Say lovely, wow. So talking about that, I totally forgot to. So we can be that force of change because it is a collective consciousness and it's like that Michael Jackson song, Man in the Mirror, if we all start with ourselves. And it's interesting when you're talking about people who refuse to see it, like put their head in the sand. And I think Shanti, we've talked about this. I know Sean Stone talks about this, that the macro of what we're seeing, the destruction that we're seeing from the 1% will say, that is a direct reflection triggers the darkness inside of us as well. Doesn't mean that you're doing what they're doing but we all have a shadow side and that's really uncomfortable work. That's really uncomfortable to sit back and go, okay, sometimes I'm an asshole. Sometimes I'm a really awful, to have to sit into that and own that. And that's the hardest part of any spirit to work but I think sometimes when people don't wanna look at that, it's not necessarily that they don't believe you or that they think you're crazy, it's just that they don't wanna have to look at themselves. They don't wanna have that collection of the ugliness in themselves too. And therefore it's- Well, I'll tell you something. My ass on this comes out when I have intolerance and I think patients do that absolutely because, and I say that all the time. And it's like, I think to myself, well, clearly I need to be more patient with this. And I get that, but I also understand that when we're looking at things around us, we don't really have the time to be ignorant anymore. That's kinda like where we're going at the moment because we have been, and that's what it's like, I think the two of you were saying it earlier on. It's been walking around with eyes wide shut for a long time. We've allowed this to happen on so many levels through being indoctrinated, through ignorance, through not wanting to see what's going on out there. So it really is- Just the simple like not being allowed to question authority. Yeah. You know? Yeah, exactly. And complying, just going against our intuition, how many people have complied with this narrative in the past two years, going completely against their own intuition, but we just wanna get back to normal. There is never gonna be the same normal. We've got to create a new normal. And that's what this is calling for, you know? And I think we really are in the stages of transitioning and it's always a challenging time when we're in that alchemical transitioning stage, most definitely, which is tough, but we just, you know, we're gonna have to just persevere and do it and just so look within and just go so deep and so dark and find the diamond within that's gonna spark it up and go, that's what I've been looking for. What's funny you say, we have to create a new normal and it hit me, something just hit me. It's like, we'll put this out there. A new normal has to be created. We can either create it or they can create it. And the choice is ours. The choice is ours. We just have to be the ones to do that and to really work through this. And stop putting your head in the sand and stop freaking complying. Yeah, it's as simple as not wearing one of these to the grocery store. Just don't wear one. It's as simple as that. And it's funny, because we've talked about this, Shanti, and I've said this before, like any type of spiritual practice that you're involved with, whether that's yoga or something else, it's all, the purpose is generally the same. One of that purpose is being able to see the truth of the illusion. A lot of that is your own truth through your own illusion. But in the macro, it's so like we were saying on Monday, it's so obvious right now that everything that they're telling us is a lie. It's so freaking obvious. The illusion is so obvious. That's why he says like an open book test, because it's so freaking obvious that it's an illusion. And I'm seeing people that I have known in the yoga world that are more experienced than me or senior to me that have fallen hook, line, and sinker for this illusion. And it's made me question, like I know now who I can't learn from. I'm sorry, if you didn't see this, I can't learn from you because you're still deep into the illusion. You haven't felt the truth. But the beautiful thing about that as much as a morning process that's been for me and other people is that it really puts it back in your lap. Teachers are great, but you're the one doing the work. You're your own sovereign guru. You're your own person that's, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. If you drink and you now have evolved to the point where you can really see what needs to be seen, then why are you going to, for someone else's approval anyway? Do that, see, because you saw. Your work has been, you obviously did work. You know, really the guru is within. And you know, I always say, and I've said this for a long time, sit at the feet of your own life. And I always find that interesting because above me I have that gorgeous picture. Oh, beautiful. And always the feet that stick out. So I often see that then as symbolic of me sitting at the feet of my own life because this is generally where I would reflect upon that. It's not easy to be your own guru. You know, people, we just got to look out there. How many people are looking for a hero? Whether it's Trump or whether it's even Jesse. Or you know, Jesse says this and Jesse says that and Jesse has a lot of beautiful things to say, but at the end of the day, Jesse is her own person who has her life and her challenges. You are your own person who has your life and your challenges. And if she says something which sparks a truth in you, then allow that to be the catalyst for things to open up in you, but then follow that truth. People will say things. It's the same thing with myself. I mean, I've been a spiritual teacher for 20 years now. And I've had the most beautiful people that I've worked with. You know, and they'll say to me, Shanti, you know, had it not been for you. I didn't like that to be perfectly honest because I believe, you know, to be a good healer, you show people what to look for, but not what to see. So yes, I will always tell this and I had a beautiful appointment with a beautiful lady earlier on today. And she and I were both crying because she's had such a massive, she's on one of my alchemy workshops right now and she's had some massive transformations. And I just said to her, you know, she said to me, had it not been for you, I wouldn't have been at the place I am now. And this is week nine. Okay, this is week nine that they're just finishing up now. And I said, I will show you what to see, but you've always had to do the work. Yeah. So it's, you know, absolutely. I understood what has been gold in my life. I've understood what has been the catalyst for gold in my life. And that's what I've shared. I've not shared some person teaching me this and some 10th lineage that I was born knowing things. It has been my purpose and my journey to take something very abstract and create something very tangible that others can understand. And I am so grateful that I've reached that place in my life. Really I am. And I must say, you know, having people like Mornay at my side has been amazing because from the creative side as well has been incredible. So, and not just Mornay, although he's been certainly the main person, but there've been lots of students and people that I've worked with. And each and every one, each and every workshop we do, the people coming there and they will give us gold, man, just by sharing who they are. I mean, one of the guys on my workshop, he was up for people and when it came to, and in fact, this was one of the weeks that when it came to sharing their story, because one of the things we worked with the Tricky Trio, Shane Gilton emulation, he shared, he told the group and he's prepared to have this recording out there for the world to listen to. And I wanna tell you, I cannot tell you how many people have learned from his story. It's just amazing. And I said to, and she mentioned him today and I said, you know, I know the guy well, he lives not too far from me. And I said, his whole life has turned around because of that. And honestly, he's, it's something we judge people very, very harshly for. I get that, I'm very grateful I have not been a victim to that and neither is my granddaughter, but I know a lot of others have been, but I also understand there's a lot of karma between people who have those experiences. So he has been able to turn his life around because I did not judge it. I said to him, you need to tell me the truth, because if you want me to help you, I need to know the truth so I can hold your hand through this process. And he told the truth. And it's just been an amazing thing to see how the truth really does set people free. So my point around this is there's nothing so bad and so awful that we've done for which we can't transcend out of. There is gold in everything and there's just beautiful human beings out there who have a lot of compassion and a lot of kindness in their heart. And those are the people that help the others to heal. Not me, not me. It's the rest of the people that take that journey. And it's, yes, I'm gonna scratch things. That's why I have a nose, got a big nose, you can see. My nose catches a whiff of everything. And when I go, hmm, I smell something, I go, oh, that's where we're going. No, no, no, not there. There's something. So I talked about this with Catherine as well. We've talked about the ego, the thought sense of self versus the true self. And there is something very, and I use the word sexy, just when people are able to be vulnerable, when they're able to admit things in a very humble way, there's something very attractive about that quality because it's real. The soul recognizes it as real. And that's, it's truth. And when we look at somebody who's set in their ego who can't admit anything, who has to put up that false, it's so repulsive because it's a lie. It's not true. Absolutely. And so when I, you know, and I know it's hard, it's so hard to admit when you've been wrong or when you've done something awful or things that have happened to you. That's a very vulnerable place to be in. But if you put yourself outside of the situation and see when someone else has done it and how much more respect and how much more compassion and love you feel for that person, you should also be giving that to yourself too. And know that it's, it's, we're all, it's like that infinity sign you talked about. It's like we're all shocked in our last episode. It's like we're all looping together through this. And our obstacle. But you know, sorry, Brass, I want to just say on that note, how beautiful it is when people become vulnerable because when other people become vulnerable and we witness their vulnerability as well, it's like they give us permission to become vulnerable too. So it's a two-way street, exactly what you're saying that infinity sign, right? So when I hear you becoming vulnerable, it inspires me to want to become vulnerable too. And we have this beautiful conversation where both of us become vulnerable and we both cry and we can both be caring towards each other and understand each other's sadnesses. And because at the end of the day, we all have hurts and pains and things we are not proud of and all of these things, you know, we humans, we've made mistakes and some of us have done some very ugly things. And, you know, what's ugly, you know, what's ugly to one might not be ugly to another. It's what your shame is. It's what you're ashamed of. If you feel ashamed of something and I implore you because we're talking now about the alchemy group this week. It's all about dealing with humiliation, shame and guilt, the prickly trio I call them. And you'll see how intowoven they are. And the minute you start allowing them to not take a hold of you. Yeah, for sure. I like that. They become your superpower. The thing that you've been most ashamed of and you are no longer ashamed of it, we talk about it, you understand. It's like the lady I was telling you about, she spoke to me about something she felt that happened 20 years ago, that she felt so incredibly ashamed of, which then led her to something else that happened when she was a child. And then I showed her how to link and she had no understanding that that was linked to that. And when I showed her what the link was, suddenly everything just opened up and all the guilt, all the shame, all the humiliation dissolved within five minutes. It was gone. That's what I call them, the gatekeepers, the three gatekeepers sisters. I think that's what I called them. They're the gatekeepers. They open the doors once you... Yeah. Amazing. You know, that's how, and that's how we heal, guys. So we heal by recognizing that within ourselves. You know, the big thing is that we also work with is the learner, teacher, teacher, learner. So we get to identify the things that we are not comfortable with in ourselves, our own incompletions. And when we recognize that and we no longer judging ourselves, we then can recognize someone else's incompletions or completions. And then we can recognize that, but without judgment. Yeah. And it's just such a beautiful thing when you're seeing that A within yourself and then in another. You know, there was something someone said to me once, and I love the whole connecting the dots things, because everything is like, really, it's a chain event of love. And when you release it, things shift, but someone said to me once when I was in university that, and I'm paraphrasing, you know, when you're a little kid, you look at your parents sometimes, regardless of whether you had a harmonious home or a crazy home, but children often view their parents as these gods and goddesses who know it all and are like the bearers of life. And then there, and the person said to me, the real sad day is when you realize your parents are just human beings. But there's a third step too, because when you realize that your parents don't necessarily know everything and you can disagree with them and sometimes your parents are crap and that they're just human beings, that's not so sad because then you realize because of that, because they're also faltered, there's a liberation that happens within you as well. Does that make sense? It's like, when you realize that human beings are not, no human being is perfect, it gives you that freedom to understand that it's okay to be different from somebody, it doesn't make either one bad, but it also makes it okay for you to make mistakes and for you to fall and they're not, that's one thing I really can't stand. Oh, there's a lot I can't stand about the church, but one of the things I can't stand about the church is this whole emphasis on sin, and it's just bad, bad, bad, but the original definition of sin just simply meant to miss the mark, to just miss the mark, to not understand who you really are. And my opinion is if you commit a sin or a mistake, it's not really a sin or a mistake if you take that, what you did, that experience and use it to your better, to your higher good, to alchemy. Exactly, it's taking those issues and failing forward. So it's taking whatever the things where that you thought you failed on and you use that as a stepping stone to understand how to do it differently next time or what not to do. And I always remember we did, even if you've committed a horrendous crime at the time that was probably the only thing that you thought that you had to survive or if you murdered someone, you probably thought that that was the only way that you could live at that point or whatever it might've been, I don't know. But there is nothing that is unforgivable, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. So it really is, it's about you getting to that place inside of yourself and saying, I mean, I also heard a terrible story again from one of my students this week where they did something horrendous to an animal. I had to just, oh my gosh, bite my lip and just work with that, process that. And eventually today I connected with the animal spirit and I understood the clarity of that. So it's very easy and I could understand why the people were so ashamed that never wanted to talk about that for sure. It was the first time I think it was spoken about to me. And it was like, often as a healer you're gonna get these people, I almost say dumping stuff on you, it's not dumping, but as a healer you take this on and as an alchemist I choose to do that and I've got to alchemize that, not just for myself but for the person and the animal as well. So I prayed about that and I had to sit with that and then I must say through my conversation with a client earlier today who I was telling you about with a guilt and everything 20 years ago I also involved a little animal and then I've got the connection together and suddenly I just got the answer and the alchemy occurred and I could see how these animals had been teachers for both the families and that set me free and the spirits of them as well. So there's so much beauty in what we do when we understand what it is to sit with that dark stuff, to sit with pain, to sit with discomfort and not try to run away from it and not try to be all leavenlight, leavenlight, leavenlight and then judge people who are doing things in your opinion that aren't about leavenlight. There are a lot of people who are doing those things but they really don't know any better and I understood what they didn't understand if that makes sense. Not so much the today one that was not nearly anything like a few days ago that I heard and I don't wanna talk about it because it's obviously I'm just using the examples but it's heavy stuff, very heavy stuff and once we understand that every spirit has its contract whether it's an animal or a human we have contracts with each other and our animals are our guides on many, many instances and the person, it's like Jesus said at this crucifixion forgive them father, they know not what they do and really animals will say the same thing when a human being is being atrocious. You know, I've been saying that a lot in my head and I see people that annoy me because they're promoting the nonsense, the whimsical nonsense of the narrative and I'll catch myself and I'll just say forgive them father for they know not what they do. Like I caught myself saying that a lot and I don't know if it's just for me to release that judgment, you know but I've been saying that forgive them for they know not what they do, they're supporting, you know and I'll be honest with you guys like I've been getting really annoyed with all the like fundraisers for, I don't know if like Ukraine basically because they're supporting the bad guys and like you guys, you should know better because you should know what these people do and it's not even about the country, it's not even about the people of the country, it's about this various group and it just, it's infuriated me but forgive them father for they know not what they do, they think they're doing a good thing but they just don't wanna look at the reality of the situation and I will say the thing that I've learned the hard way many times is that if there is this darkness that you're running from whatever it is, the shame, the guilt, whatever from something, running from it and ignoring it, it's not gonna make it go away, it will catch you, it will keep coming up in your life as a repetitive patterns in your life until you know that some people have to hit rock bottom until God, the universe goes no, you're gonna sit down and look at this, stop ignoring this, you can't graduate until you actually go through this course you know and so sometimes when we surrender to that and we actually just sit down and start to do the work, it's just so liberating and freeing and I am gonna put again guys in the description box, I'm gonna put all of the links for their social media, their channel but also the links for any of the workshops that Shanti does in a morning, you're involved in that as well, healing sessions with them because this is like so, so, so important and I've said this before, I'd love to bring it up Shanti because I know even as a yoga teacher myself, we always have like cards, business cards in our Shala with like therapists and stuff because Shanti, Mornay, myself, nobody, no light worker can actually do the work for you, they're just conduits to show you what you already really kind of know deep down and to help you hold your hand while you have to do that, you're the only, that's your superpower, is not something to be afraid of or to fear, it's your freaking superpower that you're the only one to do that work for you, that you actually are that magician that can take that lead and turn it to gold. Absolutely, I love what, I love that, you are your own magician, absolutely and you know, nothing that we're gonna say to you is new information, your spirit knows everything, what we do is really just remind you, we'll just go scratch, scratch there, scratch, scratch there and then suddenly you know, the artwork of your soul is revealed right there in front of you, we just help you scratch away the mask, that's all and then you see what's truly inside of you, absolutely. It's beautiful, doing spiritual work on yourself is one of the hardest paths you will ever take but it is the most liberating and most beautiful thing that you could do for yourself and so guys, I really wanna encourage everybody that that in my opinion, even if you wanna look at it from a broader spectrum, that in my opinion is what it means to say we are the storm, it's us taking that power back to alchemize ourselves individually so that collectively as a consciousness, we can change the direction of this ship, you know and so people like Shonte and Mourney are here to help you start that process and again, it's your superpower, it's your freaking super plot twist, you're the magic one, plot twist, you're the magic one. So guys, this is a good plot twist, isn't it? That's the beautiful thing, even though this time is so just all, like we're so ready for everything to be over, I know I personally can't wait to hug Mourney and Shonte in person, at this point I might just have to ask for travel especially with the gas prices going up but I'm ready for all of this to be over but in my opinion, knowing the way spirituality works from my understanding is it's not going to be over until we all individually start to work on ourselves and accept things and work through things so guys, I'm gonna encourage each of you and I love the whole journaling thing, Shonte, I tell my students to journal all the time, like when they feel and I actually even tell people just start writing even if it makes no sense, just keep your hand moving and don't stop and just see what comes out. You know, the first few lines make any sense and all of a sudden things are gonna come out that you did not expect to see and ding, ding, ding, that's when it gets juicy, right? That's when you- Very juicy and that's beautiful, that's like you, it's that moment and I wanna say no typing, you wanna scribe because scribing channels wisdom and every shape of every letter and every word, it's channeling wisdom from God or your divine source, your higher self, your higher consciousness and just by writing the shape of the words and the letters, it's such a beautiful experience, just to sit with yourself. And you don't have to show anyone- And my letters are beautiful. You can just be you and God, you don't have to show anyone what comes out on that piece of paper like that. Very private, but yeah, and I would say don't, yeah, don't type, I still, people make fun of me. I have like in my other bookcase, I have like shelves of notebooks. When I research, I longhand, I'll send outlines to people sometimes typed up, but I always longhand, there's something very therapeutic about actually writing anyway. I agree and you know what I also do, there comes a time like sometimes on the 30th or the 31st of the year or around about the say the night before my birthday or something, I'll have a bonfire. And all my old journals and stuff, I will then just bonfire and just, because fire is a highly transformational energy. So I just transform it, send it into the universe's light and let it go, let go and let God. So- Yeah, beautiful. And if you don't, yeah, if you're writing and you're scared and unfortunately it sometimes has definitely happened that someone gets hold of your journals and reads them and you know, that's obviously not something you wanna be doing. So if you're scared of that, then sit outside the next day or even the week later and strike a match or light it, burn it. And you could, we have, I don't know if you guys like little kids, journals or diaries. When I was a kid, they would have little locks on it. I had them. Yeah, if you're worried, just look at a little kid's journal with a lock on it and put that key on it and say so. Exactly. I will admit something, if my sister is watching right now, I used to sneak into your bedroom and read your diaries. I remember all your little boyfriends, I read about all of them in the, I mean, we were so young. I will admit that if my sister is watching and if my brother-in-law is watching, call me, I'll give you all the juicy details about her business. I will never admit that to you. I won't admit that. I read my sister's, I was speaking to her row and read her diaries when she was a kid. My journal always has a lock on it. Hers did not. I wonder if any of my siblings read mine. It's actually kind of cute. My mom read it twice with different diaries and then she left the diary back again, but then she wrote a page or two for me back in my diary. I was so angry at her all the time but she was like, very scary, you know, she's actually very concerned. But I was so angry and then I refused to write into that diary and I got a new one, but yeah, I loved it twice. And I hate it away, but my mom will find it. You know, but it's adorable to read little kids. Y'all, I'll end this on a funny note and I cannot remember the name of the show, but whatever country you're in, if you just kind of put some words in the search engine on YouTube or Rumble or something, there was a show where they would film people, you could go to like a comedy club and they would film adults, 30s, 40s, 50 year old adults to bring in a journal from your childhood and read to the crowd one of your journal entries. It is the funniest, and I think it's called like humiliated or something. Like it is, if you want a good laugh at just being a human, I'll see if I can find it. I'll look for it today before I post this and see if I can put it in the description box if I can remember. But I would suggest because I've watched the series, I had never laughed so hard in my life, but it's because you recognize yourself in those journal entries. In all of that, yeah. That's because we, you know, here's a 44 year old woman reading about a boy she had a crush on when she was 12, you know, and the ridiculousness of the things you write when you're 12 and like how dramatic and people will read it with such a straight face, like such a straight face. And it's just so funny because you see yourself in that because we're all human, you know, so, so. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, well guys, once again, please go subscribe to Aquarius Rising Africa and Solutions by Aquarius Rising Africa, as you all know, we're constantly kind of sweating in our shirts a little bit because we never know when something's gonna happen to our channel because we do push the envelope on our channels and we appreciate all your support. 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