 As a musician, you must have a good management. Yes, I do. Tu mekwana ke siya, Steve, simple boy. Managementia ke yani, imemwendi atumurama. We are too known as this water. We have had many managementia ke imemwacha. Sama nanasema amili pendo ampi accounti zake and everything. So you as a musician, what does it take unadjuwa this management ndo yango na and I'm sure it anipele kambele. What do you look for? To speak on that ndako hipo critical because I've had my one management since Tuwazange. But what I can speak on from my experience in loyalty na nile kwa sile loyalty liya kongiage na tia kipigana ndako nyumakatitu pigana loyalty liya o kipigana ni ndakutu ako yongo remanta kambusu feikfanya ibe manta ku loyalty to ni different. I understand role ya kia and understand role ya angu na niple na mi na respect decision ya kia nile ya kusabu everyone in this world chang kambiyana takakitu ibe na kitu liya kujaku joki jongi laga sana wasona kutagani ni the person who talks about themselves so much miss out, miss out Gina but here so the same way taku awak everyone has to shine. I'm saying kila mtu ako apuna akuna kipabilitia kia they just need to but you're putting taku onyesha. So let your manager be the manager let the artist be the artist tiki pata na pamaoja satu na kwa team na kwa team and I'm saying so that's yondo sisi tu me pata nangayo liya kila mtu kufanya kwa whatever they can do the end decision is all of us yes but I'm the main decision yes but sometimes nipua nipua kwa kwa kila mtu kufanya kitu uta kwa shocked sana even to mi angumini hape niya na akuna kutuna akisema kitu na mancha na mami nipasa na twezi ni foul the same way na jwa here loyalty ni beautiful sana I hope you're doing well we're right here at the boom fest and we have the one and only super artist butros takatidige story na itu jwa kwa wajia meshama liza kupafom atuambia kuma kua vipi hi butros hi hi guys kosa kosa kosa kosa kwa so bol hapa kwa lukum tuang hi hi ni mai disappoint hi leni li kuna juna kujashio ya Kenyans for Kenyans so li kuna takatuk just come all out and look just lashi leni liza tamia performance parle leo ilikua vipi ilikua salam asana dadia matia ilini bamba I was the first one to open for the show and the response wanga ilikua crazy I made people like Mokanambe energy just came through nicely so I hope us all may enjoy just because me li enjoy personally I released a couple of new songs so just care the reception was nice so I think I think to us all what about the turn out piya umeyona turn outi kuwaze because right now but it's just a tattoo and you know Kenyans Kenyans timers li binekuna kuwanga but so far so good come and meet me perform for a crowd and I'm pretty sure looking boys may perform for a crowd is I'm looking right now at what I'm going to do so what are the disappointments what will you perform kama bado crowd in Apuja but I don't know what will be the disappointments when you perform what will be the turn out disappointed me such a harsh word nila kusabu ni may perform marang mingi so ata 30 badu kongunia 1000 so na apatitru the best name is apatia so when you're at a kutja I think you're short I'm recording nabarun kua pa just ku at least kugelima shout out to you at least people really enjoyed your performance I was there and apart from that you have an upcoming album Mtindo please tell us a little bit about it butchers Mtindo finally after two years of waiting after a second book nupatakwa barabara nui I'm finally going to release it on the 12 and on the 13th I'm going to be having my listening party actually it's like I'm calling it the listening party but it's like a small performance with a couple of artists who are going to perform so on the 13th na takakilamsaku je kwa sa buti Westlands pa le roof top you've mentioned that watuakua mingo jamia kambili what was the issue what was the issue you know the industry na kuanga back and forth there's a lot of kuket signatures especially signatures so yeah and then I don't know time nili kwa perfect nila I needed also to grow just my brand to appoint nye niki toa my first album it makes sense can you tell us why you decided to call your album Mtindo there is a reason why you decided to call it Mtindo because indeed dedicate the name itself to my friend and the past I think like 30 years ago suicide al kwa ga designer like he used to like do a lot couple of things like fresh like crazy and then jina ke liberita kwa Andre so he used to have his brand called Mtindo so yet and only introduced to a couple of things and whatever so after a past nini ni hitting away and at that time nili feel the best nene zafanya niki in libon have that Mtindo in libon it's just my first album I'll call it Mtindo I'll tell you something that's coming because I'll tell you I remember we left kwa golem say and I got the black bean so yeah so your trend Mtindo that's what it came from and maybe with that what that whole story maybe your friend Pufa from suicide what has that taught and do you think maybe our mental health has been really taken care of in our country especially with the youth taken care of I don't think taken care of I think we shadow it shadow it a lot especially kwa counterparts way to but yeah say at least to kwa na more youth wa nangili about it that's a step forward I think we can do better but yeah kwa sabi ni casing ni crazy ni namaliza kwa sabi kwa sabi ni kwa productive kwa kichwa kwa badia kwa badia kwa badia and that's one thing na cheki na cheki industry tu ikona kwa sabu you can see kwa sabili na kata sana kwa kwa ikeni etu kuna kichutuna kwa sahahu sana so yeah I think it's something you should touch on but yeah when you say we can do better you as a musician what are you doing about it I try to do my best to become who I am kwa influence kwa say kwa sita kutia kungalisha ni kwa be to live your life the way I'm living my life my right might not be your right your right might not be my right so I'll try to live the best to any min and try to jamulate kwa kwa better so the people who feed off me kwa sabi na jadikona influence if I do this people will follow it so I try to live the best kwa influence so say when you mean I feel but I got a feeling kwa kwa kwa uki tu okay umekwa na shu the country it was huge how was the experience being there kumikwa fans pia kumiti ma fans kwa kwa the country that ni mesa utu kidoga lakini umekwa outside the country the latest one the latest one the latest one oh seashells seashells seashells seashells kutoka airport tu li kwa gati na pigadi maha gadi ni li kwa na li kwa pigadi photos uli demon ni nekiwa ni ane nangali ane nangali Angela Ane nangali ane nangali it was nice it was receptionally kwa beyond because we had to move from different islands for performances because I had like four performances in every island I did not drive a bike kwa barabara I drove a chicken out to you and I was like Angela Angela it was beautiful to come outside of your country so yeah okay as a musician when you have been outside the country and the musicians who are upcoming what does it take for someone to have shows who are outside the country na tena anona Kenya badu hajavu masana what does it take? I don't know to become global seed because it's like global if you want to sell your thing locally you will find nishia naka local ni ni if you want to sell your thing globally find nishia global ni ni yeah if you in the business of making music it's good but if in the business of the music business there's a whole scope other than just put on gomanaku perform so yeah if you want if you want to sell global thing global if you want to sell local thing local so it's just the same thing so kama minafu raising gomanaku dashika kenya dashika ipuat this is what I need to do julis and if you can see what you need to do what kind of song what kind of image what kind of people you need to talk to it's just simple it's simple mathematical please allow me to take you back a little tomb tindo because I have a burning question of course you've talked about mental health and a lot of people of course you have a lot of fans jenzis and asana you've mentioned that wana kunyu akusao bitufulani as butros maybe especially in the industry have you ever been in a point where probably you had you have experienced maybe some sort of mental health issues and probably how did you take care of that or how did you go through that? personally personally I haven't but I've just I've learnt I've learnt how to be responsible the things I do like I think I love I love to drink I like my kakiba but responsibility kujua how I manage it when I need it when I want it the difference so sometimes I don't know how I manage it just because it's the easy way out it's a factor that you know explaining it and the dialogue and the Einstein but everyone knows the situation I'm just saying speaking up and listening to a vocal about it I don't know how I manage it to be less I don't know how I manage it to be less feminine or more feminine I don't know so yeah I don't know this is a question that I have kujua but now these are is it part of the am I not symbolized part of the brand to know na heko he buti ya buti then he wuku piya then jubo hapa I'm part of the brand am I not symbolized this is me my name is Buti there's a man named Buti and then this is the Shrap God she's one of the Shrap God so Shrap God and then this one is because Shrap life I like everything Jesus is not compliment but yeah I like everything kina make sense kwa if I'm ume okay sorry okay if I as a musician yes you must have good management yes I do tumekwana kesee as the simple boy management ya ke ya ni imemwendi ya tumerama we are to known as this water we have had binyu management ya ke imemwacha someone na na sema amlipendu ampia account zake and everything so you as a musician what does it take unadjua this management do yangu na and I'm sure it a ni pelekam dele what do you look for um honestly to speak on that ta kwa hypocritical because I've had my one management since to Azange but what I can speak on from my experience loyalty nalere kwa sile loyalty liya kongiagilati to kipigana tinda kwa nyuma kwa chitupigana loyalty liya o kipigana ni takutaku yongo rea manta kambusu kwa niya imemwantaku loyalty to ni different I understand role ya ke and understand role ya angu na na iple na mi na respect decision ya ke na liya o kusabu everyone in this world chan kwa mbiana ta kakitu kibana ikitun liya kujaku kijangela jasana wasona kutaka ni ni the person who talks about themselves so much misal jina but ya so the same way taku a wak everyone has to shine kila mtu a kwa puna a kuna capability ya ke they just need to but your opportunity a kwa nyesha so let your manager be the manager let the artist be the artist to kipata na pamao jasata na kwa team na kwa team na imu say so that's yondo sisi tmepata nangayo liya kila mtu kufanya whatever they can do the end decision is all of us but sometimes nipo a nipo a kuwacha kila mtu kufanya kila mtu kwa shokt sana tende iwa sana even do miyango me ni hape niya na kuna kutuna aki sema kitu naman chana maami nipo sana twezi ni fawl the same way na jwa ya luliti ni beautiful sana so ya good news to Adontha do you think artists should come together to support Stevo Sibobui because he's one of of you that won a request from my fans from Wale Otobo one of our followers aki sema artist should kwa ni mi felnika a mi kwa na management kaza bacha sa every time napa tawa hawa ko sawa a mi haachua dhenpia ako tu palestrana so mambo ni mengi so i'm asking if maybe artists should come together kwa ni kwa mambeni if anyone anza come through kumsa idea si ni kitu poa i mean yeah i mean why not so it's something that's you supposed to do as a human being so i wouldn't i wouldn't sayze kata sayze se mati kana kitioto against it here so but i would just say kama na joe game na kwa kaivi i mean just don't let's just i think we live in an age of knowledge sometimes my sound out of out of bound maybe cruel but we live in an age of knowledge where people people should understand or maybe try to find out if you can pick up a phone and text i'm pretty sure you can get something on the internet you know what i'm saying if you're coming into the music industry the one that i know is a treacherous game yeah so if it happens to you you know i'm going to fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on for me kama mayudu niyama rea tatu tatu niyama rea netena so i hope inafakwa lesson to just even other artists coming through select kusabini life ya ako select the people who are about to let into your life vigilantly misiasi pidiya tawambili and then that can be desperate desperation taku pelika placing in ya and then people have their lives to live whether you like it or not no matter how bad it might seem people have their lives to live if tell them matena kuja uta kuna temi misiasi pidiya ita kwa crazy but i hope ya ioparatoka kwa yoshimo because that man he deserves more he deserves more than what he's getting so yeah yeah we'll do what we can we can so thank you so much thank you guys for having me man say hello shukran bop bop bop