 Could I mate? What are you here? So it was interesting in that two-and-a-half minute video that Tucker Carlson released yesterday evening That he castigated TV for a lack of debate Apparently TV news isn't debating all sorts of important issues And that's amusing because Tucker's basically done away with debate on his show. That his show has just become monologues and guests who agree with him So 2018 was about the last year that Tucker Carlson's show had a significant debate So watching all of that John Mirshimer interview with Robert Ryde even joined Robert Ryde sub-stack to get the John Mirshimer overtime interview and It's just really good stuff. So they were discussing isolationism, which John Mirshimer defines as an unwillingness to shed American blood overseas for any reason. It doesn't mean that you withdraw from the world economically or culturally or diplomatically But it refers to as the unwillingness to shed blood overseas and John Mirshimer is not isolationist who wants to contain China and so he supports You know going to war with China if China tries to militarily take over Taiwan and He pushes Robert Ryde, where would you be willing to shed American lives and Robert Ryde says well because America has agreements of protection with South Korea and Japan and the Philippines and Then we should do it on those places also because we have American basis So Robert Ryde takes very legal approach to American interests while John Mirshimer takes Just a balance of power Approach is not nearly as concerned with the international law as Robert Ryde is so the whole 100 minutes of that discussion is Is very clarifying I mean John Mirshimer still at the top of his game and Mirshimer's coming out with a book in a few months About how nations operate I always read John Mirshimer's books whenever he releases one Then I was listening to all of the Chuck Johnson space on Tucker Carlson, and it's like three and a half hours Good stuff there. I mean listen to him skeptically Doesn't doesn't always make his his case Chuck Johnson knows a lot of people a lot of interesting people were showing up in the in the Twitter space Like people with extensive political backgrounds, so he's attracting an influential and Interesting group of followers who interact with them and finding value in what is what he has to say and Chuck Johnson is providing perspectives that I don't think I've heard Before and so some of them I think are quite important Least it's a challenge received ways of understanding the world Then he's got a follow-up space from yesterday on I think four hours on Tucker Carlson and Lee could So I haven't listened to that yet, but I'm looking forward to it