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Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please. For technical reasons, our adventure has been temporarily interrupted. We hope to be back in operation very soon. Please remain seated. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please. We regret that our adventure cannot continue at this time. Please follow instructions from our cast members to leave the attraction. Thank you. Please follow instructions from our cast members to leave the attraction. Thank you. You can still see it. Look at his hands. Guys, and Brandon's a white white. Oh, I'm getting a tan. He's getting a tan. Oh my god, I'm turning different color. That's a first. Okay, full honesty. We had a friend moment. We had an emotional bonding moment. We were just crying like 20 minutes before this podcast started. Oh my god. Oh, okay. Everything's okay. What's that Dolly Parton song except the world on fire? Oh my god. Just let it all burn. How was your week? It was a good week. It was a hot week. I hate it. It was very hot. Did a lot of things. You're so dark. I am guys. I'm cooked. Like, I am cooked. Okay, look at that. That's not dirt. I'm just furry. No, no, yeah. I had a good week. I do want to shout out. Oh my god. That's a good picture, actually. I want to say on Thursday it was 32 degrees Celsius and Leviathan did have wheel heaters on. And what did Tundra Twister do? It did a full cycle test. It did a full rotation. I waited. How many? Eight hours. Bren was a trooper and he owned a lazy bear. I literally, I am the mascot now. He owned a lazy bear. People were asking permission if it was okay to close. Fans were literally coming up to me and like being like, oh, I knew we'd find you here. And I'm like, oh, what a reputation. Oh man. Okay, we'll talk about Tundra Twister because I see all y'all comments and y'all enthusiasts need to simmer down a little bit. Give her some time. But we have a lot to talk about today. Hopefully I remembered it all. I stayed until the very end tonight so I didn't have time to set up the podcast. So, yeah. But I definitely am recovering from being tired. Big sleep deprivation. I was very much sleep deprivated. I was stressed. I needed to get the first test run for you guys and it was stressing me out that Wonderland is so far behind on Tundra Twister. So, yeah. That's been eating me alive. The crowds were busy today. Yeah, okay. Don't touch on front gate. Grace! What happened there? I wonder what? What's front gate? It was a good Saturday. It was a healthy Saturday, crowds-wise. All the big rides were an hour, hour and a half and everything else was fairly busy. I still... You know what's so interesting? What? It's been busy. But if you look at the parking lot, like if you ride Leviathan, the parking lot's not full. It's like a half full. But it's still... There's a crowd in the park as if the parking lot was full. So that's telling us that a lot of people are either getting dropped off or they're coming by transit. So I kind of find that interesting, I guess. It's a lot of drop-offs. There's hundreds of people funneling into Wonderland from that drop-off platform when I arrived at 10 a.m. on the dot. It's almost like they need to expand it. What am I doing for Mother's Day? Reminding her that she should have Mother's Day tomorrow. I don't know about that. You went to Ikea. I didn't for my stepmom. I bought her a rug. I bought her a rug. It's more like a carpet. It's a nice zebra carpet. I think she's going to like it. A zebra carpet? Does it match anything in the house? I feel like I should have helped you. We have white chairs and then we have zebra blinds in the living room, so I think she's going to like it. Sledgehammer did end up opening up later on in the day. Is there going to be a construction update? I won't have time to edit one before tomorrow, but this podcast literally contains a construction update. So there you go. Live and in person. I live in Quebec. What is the best music park to go to in that area? Great adventure. There isn't any. Honestly, go on Google Maps and look at how far great adventure is from where you live, because Laurent doesn't count. What rides are closed right now? None now? None. The Bat periodically closes. I mean a lot of their rides periodically close. The Usan strike. No, nothing is closed. Yeah, no, Wonderlands. I'm telling you, I should have put that as the trigger. You know what? Busch Gardens Williamsburg did the last two days. What did they do? You don't know? No, I don't. Guess which attraction they closed to better staff their park? Just guess. Helping guys. Nope. Pantheon? Pantheon. They made an announcement that they were closing Pantheon because they didn't have staff. How many people does it take out? Because all their staff, guys, Busch Gardens literally has like 40 people in the op booth just standing around singing songs. Literally, they sang. Okay, what stresses me about... You know what? Wonderland deserves so much F in credit. So much credit because Heather Hill and the operations department at Wonderland would never... It's like closing Leviathan guys. Picture it this way. Wonderland closing Leviathan to staff Behemoth Yukon and the other crappy rides. That's essentially what Busch Gardens Williamsburg just did. They would never... Wonderland would literally do anything in their power... They wouldn't even allow Dragonfire to be closed for shorts. This is why we all need to sometimes take a deep breath when Wonderland makes a little screw up here and there because one, if it rains, the rides are open. If there's high winds, as long as it's safe, the rides are open. If they're short staffed, they make do. They make do and they push through. On the good rides. On all the rides though. Even last year was the worst staffing issue. Were there ever rides closed? They even have soaring timbers open last year. They have people jumping on the platform trying to get riders onto soaring timbers. Like, we really sometimes as enthusiasts maybe need to like, you know, be like, okay, today wasn't such a great day at Wonderland, but it could be Busch Gardens Williamsburg. I love the park, by the way. But closing your main attraction. And you know what? When Leviathan blew its lift motor, they literally, like, moved heaven and earth and paid half a million dollars to get that motor from SeaWorld Orlando. Dark coaster at 220. Eight riders per hour during previews? Who said that? Who said that? I just saw it. I just saw it. No, but like seriously, like, the operations department at Wonderland really does deserve, like, some respect. Yeah. Also Team Yukon. I know he agrees with this too. There isn't a team at Wonderland that comes anywhere close to that team. And I'm not saying that to be rude to the other teams. Yukon's team feels like a five-star resort this year. We're getting welcomed. We're getting welcomed and guided to our seat. We, they're talking on the speaker box at the top of the drop. That's pretty cool. They are asking if you have any questions to just ask your ride-off as they're checking their restraint. It feels like a five-star resort up in there. So I just wanted to give some recognition because, you know, and what RageBob just posted here, there's a cute little plaque for the park president. That is cool. That is really cool. And why do they put it on Yukon Striker? Yeah, you don't see it on Leviathan. Me too. Um, but Team Yukon. Yes, you know what? Okay. Yukon is doing a fantastic job. Um, what else? What other teams are doing good? What else? I was trying to be shady. Leviathan! You gonna say anything? You were about to say something and then you stopped. And that person? Which one? Oh, we know who that is. Yeah, can we block them? Moderators, can we get rid of slow B9S4? Sorry about that. Um, I can't ban from here, I would. Um, what was I saying? Okay, Leviathan is, you know, shut up Thunder Run. May I have your attention? Please remain seated. This ride has stopped temporarily and will resume motion at any time. Please remain seated for your own safety. Thank you. The Wicker Man is currently experiencing a delay and we have ceased our ritual. We apologize for any inconvenience but we are still assessing the interruption. If you have just entered our territory or at the start of your journey along the queue line, we advise you to leave the woods and try other rides and attractions. Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please. For technical reasons, our adventure has been temporarily interrupted. We hope to be back in operation very soon. Please remain seated. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please. We regret that our adventure cannot continue at this time. Please follow instructions from our cast members to leave the attraction. Thank you. May I have your attention? Please remain seated. This ride has stopped temporarily and will resume motion at any time. Please. I don't remember what we were talking about now. Welcome back. Shout out to Yukon. A couple of people on Leviathan. One person on Thunder Ground. We're hot mess today. Holy crap! Today is a f***ing day. Just saw the El Toro Ryan video where you say Levi is better than Yukon. Whoa! Were you in a video? No, I was not in a video. I did not say that. I was not in a video. I've only ever seen them once in my life. Oh, you, me? Did I say that in a video? Oh, um... Okay. Let's go right into it to give us a topic to talk about because we're a little loopy today. Snoopy's Racing Railway. Look at her! The little dog is on the back. It looks nice. It looks really nice. Someone pointed out the fireworks sign is trademarked. Yes, why? I don't know. Is it supposed to be a joke trademark? Yeah, I don't know. I think it's wonderland. They're like, this is about to be at every park. But look how cute! She's honestly so cute. This is her cutest ride. It's definitely probably the nicest themed ride. It looks very clean. The colors go well. I really wish it wasn't in the Chainspark. But they removed the Dinosaur's Alive building. Right here, yeah. She gone. And they put the fence right there. Why is there a black screen? It's fucking black. Let me edit this! Guys, we're sorry. There we go! I forgot to hit loop! Star Voyager at Marine Land is not better. No, thank you. Marine Land should just close. Cool! Cool, we're sorry! But the dog on the back, Snoopy on the back is so cute. Let me move me. I moved the whole screen! She's so cute though. Honestly, I'm really excited. And the only way... They put barbed wire up. She's cute, but you stay away. You're looking no touching. Honestly, I really hope we get to ride this. I'm afraid now they're not going to do a media day. I don't think there's a matter. Anyone in here able to allow us to borrow your child? They can be on the channel! We'll do a review together! We'll try not to squish them! Oh my goodness! Look at that! It's like a little conductor. I keep missing it. I'll put this down here so we can see it next time. The only thing I have against this ride is what storyline from a park do you think they stole this from? Come on guys, let's give you guys 10 seconds to answer this. What storyline, if you paid attention, have they somewhat copied from another roller coaster? What park is it? Braden got it. Fire Chaser Express. Yup. This is our little slice of dolly. Okay, but you know what? This one's a little cuter. This is supposed to be cute though. Fire Chaser Express is like explosions. Someone said Yukon Second Row. That needs to be a meme. That needs to be a meme. That needs to be a meme. Oh no, they said they saw us on Yukon Second Row, but that should be a meme. Will there be audio in the shed? That is a good question. There's a firework shed that says boom, so maybe they'll be like but you know, I thought there would be sound effects on Yukon too and that never happened. So I'm just not going to open my mouth. The safety signage is up. The park has finished commissioning the ride. So this could open any day guys. I'm half expecting to walk into Wonderland one day and it's just running. So get ready because this is opening any day now. Fingers crossed and then we're going to find a kid. To ride with us with the parents consent. They're going to do a review for us. Yes. After we ride. Guys, I'd like to warn you not to trip because we don't want the universe to break. We're losing now. We're losing ground. We struggled. The first week Wonderland was open. We started gaining weight again. The lazy bear kind of put us out of commission. We'll sledgehammer be open tomorrow. Yes, as long as nothing happens, it was running tonight. We'll get Snoopy. Are we done with Snoopy? Anything else to say? Everyone find a cousin or a family member that you can go ride with because you're going to need one. Do you think Wonderland is still getting a coaster in the mountain? I think it's very possible. Tundra twister. Brandon, I think you have so much invested in this. You've got to take it away. This is amusement insiders baby now, okay? The amount of hours I have put into this try to catch every moment of it knowing the guy who operates the goddamn thing now like we have a personal relationship. I wave, I wave from riding Yukon and all that, okay? This is Walmart bag. This is my baby. I am the king of Tundra Twister. No, it's disputing him. Y'all can be the kings of Yukon, Leviathan. I don't even care about Yukon anymore. This is my baby. It's moving. Someone said it's moving. It is moving. Have you not watched my videos? I've hosted quite a few. I can't wait to see your reverse POV on Tundra Twister. That's if we fit. That's a quarter of an hour. Do you think it's going to move a little bit faster than this? Faster than this? Okay, yes. Someone had asked that question. Thank you. Yes and no. Boss, definitely faster. Faster than this, yes. I will say I've seen the gondola spin and I don't know if this was just him programming. It spins fast. It does have the I don't know why I'm doing this. It has the possibility that Tundra Twister insiders. That's what I should have switched the name of the channel to for a week but then someone would have taken amusement insiders. So, they didn't run it today. This is what was really strange. They were going through a checklist today. The guy, a checklist. I'm hoping that was him finishing off and then tomorrow we're going to see some sort of action at the ride. We'll find out tomorrow. What are your thoughts on the Wild Teenagers? We'll talk about it. I don't think it's going to move at the same pace as the European Flats. Wonderland doesn't... cycle or speed or both? Yeah. I can't see Wonderland operating this at like... The European Flats would be like... It's easier for them to get motors. But, she's a beaut. She makes no sound. No sound. All you hear is the air coming out of the fans. So, you just hear... Sounds like a jet taking off almost. So, the air coming out. You don't hear the motors. You don't hear the motors. I feel like I'm going crazy. You heard my motor. I swear I swear workers were checking on me. I remember some area, Ride Area Soup was like... Are you just going to be there all day? But, is Stupid going to be open tomorrow? There's a slight chance. I mean, they were rushing getting that sign up today. All the signage. Did you see the maintenance workers tying off all the signs? No, but they haven't been training. No, they have been training. On exit. And load. On load. So, not off yet, but... There's a small chance. When do you think Tundra Twister is going to be up and having people on it by? Let's hope for Friday. Is there a chance for Friday? It's getting less and less. I think Snoopy's. Tundra Twister is my baby. Oh, them are fighting. I haven't seen you sitting on that patio. Look at this tea. Look who I caught here. Uh-huh. You better get... You better get that ride open. Okay, we have to talk about Vortex at some point, though, because that ride's hauling this season. I just saw it go by. It changed my ADHD. It was like, oh, wow, did you see that shot? That looked like I edited it in. Okay. Do you have anything else you want to say about Tundra Twister? You know what? When it's actually running, like, doing its thing, it comes very close to Yukon. It's obviously not going to hit and there's no issue there, but it is a very satisfying thing visually to see, like, Yukon's train coming down on the second drop and then Tundra swinging up from the right angle. It looks like it's going to knock it off. Oh, my God, Ryan, just when I'm riding this in the reverse POV, I have to put I am your mother as the background song. I am riding. I am your mother. You listen to me. Have you birthed any amusement devices? I did birth this. Yeah, you can tell he starts another one ready to come out. Yeah, it's our 2024 flat ride in front of Canada. Yay! It is so much taller in person. It is huge. It is absolutely huge. Let's talk about the chaperone policy. Well, okay. I didn't stay all the way to the end today, but from what I saw, I think they were doing a really good job of kind of patrolling areas. Oh, yes. I just noticed someone saw me filming and they were ducking out. So, we saw, on our way out, a gathering of teenagers and they go in and they break it up now. They're like, uh-uh-uh-uh. And, yeah, everywhere there were teenagers, there was cops. Yep. At the end of the night, they had the helicopter flying over the area. It was a huge improvement. Inside the park was a huge improvement. I don't think we're allowed to talk about that. Um, why? Oh, you mean across the street? No, no. We'll just leave it at that. Across the street actually wasn't too bad. Um, but, yeah, no, it was a huge improvement. It was. Like, I felt safe. I still hate teenagers now. They are very terrible, but the cops were, they were quick. They were quick to respond, quick to react. Um, they were organized. They did a good job. They definitely did a good job. I think if they can keep this up, then there is no need for a chaperone policy or anything like that. Um, but that being said, you know, and I know a lot of you guys, you guys don't cause trouble or anything, but, you know, if you do go to the park with the mindset like, oh, you know, I might start something, just be warned. Like you're not going to be in there for very long. Jerb, so, okay. Okay, okay. You're not going to like what I have to say. He might agree with you. Okay. You're not going to like me. I mean what I'm about to say with peace, love and respect. Okay. So I'm reading your comment. Right. I'm reading your comment. You went on a Thursday with your son to Canada's Wonderland. Most rides were a walk on and even stay on. That should have been the end of your sentence because that is going to be one of the very few times that you ever have that experience in Canada's Wonderland. We live in a world where there are countries being attacked. We live in a world where people are literally losing their homes. We live in a world where you literally had the opportunity to buy a season pass for your family and you go to a theme park that is renowned in North America and is normally busy like this right here and walk on and stay on on roller coasters. Okay. That should have been the end of your sentence. Yes, you may not have been able to pick your seat all the time. But you had the opportunity to go to a theme park and walk on and stay on roller coasters. Yes, it can be frustrating. I get your side of it. Again, I'm not going to sit here and lecture you because you're probably a really great parent and you're a fan, I think. But like I said, sometimes, enthusiasts, I'm looking at him too. So trust me, I don't hate you for your comment. I do it all the time. He does it all the time too. But honestly, sometimes just take a step back because it was, yes, it being so dead they should have let you pick and I find it really weird that they didn't. I kind of want to call that out too when they're forcing you to go to the back. If it was really stay on, that means there's a line which means you can go to any road you are. Yeah, I find it a little hard to believe because just our experience, I thought we were going to have a lot of trouble and it's not because they know us. There's some rides where it's a lot of international students that don't know us and we've been allowed to pick our seats. Sometimes they'll be like, but then they let us. Speaking myth is a little long. I'm not saying you have a reason to lie, but when you say every ride, that's a little strange to me because I think, but again, aside from that, I don't, me personally, I don't view it as a valid complaint in the current times we live in. You literally have the opportunity to take your family to an expensive theme park that is normally so crowded and again, this isn't at you. This isn't at anyone. It's like the Karen. Pick and choose your battles. It sounds like you had an awesome day to me. It really does. It sounds like you had an amazing day. Probably a day your son or daughter will remember forever. I think that's where you should just leave it at. You shouldn't have a bone to pick with a theme park. Send an email. If it affected you that much, send an email to Wonderland and I'm sure they'll respond and stuff like that, but there's no reason it should have ruined your day. You know, in a ride like Wild Beast, who it doesn't believe that. I find that so weird because when they're dead, they don't even have groupers. If it's walk-on and stay-ons, there wouldn't have been groupers, so what do you mean you can? Never mind. I don't want to call you a liar, but this story doesn't fully add up. Maybe I am calling you a liar now. You know what? So Wonderland does an amazing job of trying to accommodate, and usually for most rides, except for pre-hemath, they seem to have a problem over there, but you are allowed to sit in the front row within reason, but most rides have designed extra queuing for their front rows, and it's usually like four or five groups max. So sometimes it's just like almost luck of the draw. It depends where you are in line and stuff. It is unfortunate because I know what it's like if you want to sit in your favorite seat. That's a you and I problem. Not a thumb problem. If you want to sit in your favorite seat, you know, something I had to learn was that you don't always get the seat that you want, and that's okay because then you can just come back and ride the ride again. You know, you can ask. You can ask. You can be like, you know, would it be possible to sit in the seat? If they say no, leave it at that. Go ride it. Come back and ride again. Try again in a few hours. But usually they are fairly accommodating for front row within reason and stuff like that. So, you know, no one really requests or demands that, oh, I want to go to row five. Cause problems, no. So it's usually one group per row except for the front. Okay. I have a problem with what he's saying now. It's getting out of hand. It was a power move. I doubt on Wild Beast. It was a power move. Oh, man. Usually people that say that are the ones that are instigating the problem. I'm just going to leave it at that. I'm going to stop commenting on it. I haven't had any problems picking a seat this year. No, I would like literally... Okay. We're going to drop it. Try going another day. Give it another chance. I don't know what happened. If you're telling the truth, then that's crazy to me. I don't know where you're wearing like a Trump supporting shirt or something. I'm just kidding. Yeah. It sounds like you had a really amazing day for the day. Truthfully. That's not going to leave it at that. I like what Robert Cook said. You can't have everything in life. You can't. Chaperone policy. Huge improvements. I will say... I will comment on one thing. But they fixed it really quickly. I'll give them credit there. Again, it seems like Wonderland is very aware this year. I mean that in a good way. I'm not saying that to diss them. But they're super aware. So when we got up to front gate, I posted a bunch of stories on my Instagram being like, oh, this line reminds me of COVID. I can't believe we're going to have to wait in this line to think. And then right as I posted it, it was like, bam, they fixed the problem. They stopped using certain things and let us go through the old way, the quicker way, and it fixed the problem. And then they went back to using what they had made. I'm not going to touch on what the system is. So I was really appreciative that someone was obviously watching over the operations and realized that there was a massive bottleneck forming. And it was like, okay, we're going to pause our new system for 30 minutes. We'll get everyone that's bottlenecking in and we'll restart the system. That speaks great management. That is honestly great management. That's someone being like, okay, this isn't working. We're still committed to this new system. We'll make a slight change and then we'll go right back to it. Mr. Sandwich, shut up. So, yeah, it's great to see that they are learning of opinion on the... Oh, they want our opinion on the chaperone policy. Okay. This is a tough one because I also realized I'm struggling that a lot of these teens are younger than they actually are. I think we need it. Because before I said it was a lot of the 19 to 21 year olds but I realized that they're actually younger because the police said a lot of these people they were arresting were younger and that's when I realized I think a lot of them look 19 but they're actually like 16. They try and act all tough. I think they should try it for a weekend and just see what happens. I'd say no Nike tech allowed. Have you come in Nike tech? Yeah, you're done. No, I think it's a hard one. I don't think we need the chaperone policy. I'm such a business person though. All these people there I see dollar signs. Look at the money walking. It's so cute. That's like a Gucci purse right there. That's such a problem. I'm going to go to Wonderland. The average enthusiast books it to their roller coaster. I'm more excited to see the park fill up. Like I get really I'm like oh my god it's a busy day. This is great. It's a busy day. This means new rides. This means blah blah blah. To be honest Mr. so much I don't think they have a liability. I really don't. The park. If they aren't doing everything in their power but they are now like I think that Wonderland's doing everything in their power inside the park. Wait for the first 10 to 10 day. Because a lot of problems seem to occur after 4pm in my opinion. Which is probably why the other parks did it after 4. But what was I going to say? The Nike dudes have the same haircut they do. They all do. They all go to the same place. I would hate to see a chaperone policy implemented because it's slaughtered attendance at the other parks. Like it really slaughtered and we have big expansions coming. So can you imagine having to delay some expansions because they are now only seeing 50% less of their attendance? Honestly the biggest problem with most teenagers is they are all bark. They are loud. I wouldn't say they are bark anymore. They really do attack now. But see like I was thinking about this and you guys can come at me but is it really Wonderland's fault that these teens are like this? Wonderland is a place of business. They open their gates and they let whoever comes in in. That's their right as a business to do. Unfortunately Covid and stuff has made teens extra super high to testosterone or whatever. So Wonderland now has heightened security. They are doing their part. But is it really Wonderland's responsibility to like half their attendance numbers because of the behavior of teens that live around the park? They can't. It's the same thing when they hold a sporting event in Toronto. When the sports team loses or whatever there is chaos. More chaos than you see at Wonderland. But we don't implement chaperone policies at the sporting events and we don't even talk about it. Again I know everyone's going to disagree with me here but again I'm back to no chaperone policy. Now that I've seen Wonderland with all the police officers in the park there was a lot today. No one can argue that there wasn't a lot of police today. And every time we saw a crowd of teenagers there were like four cops and four security officers. And they were quit like they literally came out of nowhere. So there's cameras in the park. You can see it. It's pretty evident. So they're clearly watching the cameras and they know where there's a problem. And they have people stationed in some areas like Leviathan like the big rides like Lazy Bear. But okay so everyone here is saying that it is Wonderland's responsibility. Yes again I will say it's Wonderland's responsibility to keep the guests inside the park safe. But have you guys not noticed that the police have spoken about this issue and it almost seems like this is a situation that the police force is taking on. So clearly the city isn't blaming Wonderland. It looks like the city is acknowledging that this is a problem across the board and they're helping Wonderland. I mean at the end of the day Wonderland's paying each and every one of those cops 70 bucks an hour. I think we have to wait a little more into the summer. I want to see what it's like at night night when it's like a 10 p.m. close. From what I understand Wonderland isn't paying for the whole police presence anymore. This is an operation they have a whole task force and a name for it and everything. They said in and around Wonderland. Wonderland might be paying for some of the ones on property but they're not paying for the helicopter and stuff. That's true. I mean at the end of the day they're making tax dollars off all these idiots so I personally think that Wonderland hasn't been fully blamed for this. Again this stuff happens you can't literally vet everyone that comes in through those gates. It's impossible. If you think Wonderland can vet every single person good or bad then that's crazy. And I mean how much like how many jobs does Wonderland provide for the local city and how many tax dollars too so mm-hmm well I think though this right now is good you know the people who are causing fights arrest them charge them take away their season pass no harm no foul Wonderland like you know they're still getting their money the teenager gets to go in jail or gets like a two thousand dollar ticket so hopefully they learn or their parents you know Wonderland didn't press any charges apparently Wonderland should be pressing charges. That's the one thing I will say Wonderland like that article that said zero charges were pressed the last weekend. Wonderland should press charges. You should be pressing charges. So that's something I would ask Wonderland to do moving forward is can you please commit to pressing charges because disturbing the peace. That's the only way a lot of these people are going to learn is if they go to jail you know or if they get that monetary fine. Yeah I will say after being there today I felt like Wonderland on every weekend even like three four years ago. Yeah obviously there's a difference with the cops but yeah this you know apart from like the usual there was nothing we didn't see any fights and whatever little stuff was happening you know security was doing such an amazing job of dealing with it so I never felt unsafe. I don't think you ever felt unsafe. I didn't feel unsafe today. There was one moment when we got crowded but there were cops right there so I didn't like feel unsafe but no like you know they did a good job and they know where the problem areas are you know I don't know what you caught in Leviathan or Behemoth but I will say I think Leviathan is a major area of concern especially at night when it comes to this kind of stuff. I mean I feel less unsafe on the TTC and like public I say that as if I take it but like I'd rather be at Wonderland even last Saturday over again than be on public transit in Toronto. I feel more safe at Wonderland than again I don't really go to sports games and I would out to sports games. Yeah at night like I'm not going in Toronto at night. I feel more safe at Wonderland than downtown Toronto. Now when I say they didn't press charges I do think that they were banned from Wonderland. Yeah season pass gone. I will say though so I went to Starbucks today across the street and it's a Saturday that reduced hours and not only that you are only allowed to go inside the building to purchase a drink you cannot sit inside the building you cannot sit on the patio patio in fact you couldn't sit on Starbucks property so you can only go in to get the drink and I'm pretty sure that's because of the volume of teenagers that go there they just don't want any liability happening on their property which is the business is right. Yeah so the business is still making money which they're happy about but I wonder do you think like other businesses might not be so happy it's a tricky situation again this is where Wonderland isn't responsible and I can confirm this Wonderland is not responsible for what happens with the guests the minute they cross over that property line. That is a city problem that is again the city's responsibility Wonderland is not responsible for businesses having to close their doors and all that it's not Wonderland's fault that their place of business is located where it's located and that the teens in the neighborhood surrounding Wonderland have become this way it's just an unfortunate situation that happens now I think a lot of people are laying too much blame on Wonderland and again I know like even some of my close friends I do think there's too much blame being put on Wonderland there's only so much they can do like as long as Wonderland is banning these people then that's fine if we learn that Wonderland isn't banning these people then yes we need to start writing some emails and asking some questions like I'll say that and I would like Wonderland to press charges personally yeah I think Wonderland should press charges I think these teenagers should be arrested and put in like jail even if it's just for one night because they have to learn that there are consequences and I guess apart from what happens across the street in the surrounding neighborhoods yeah that's not really Wonderland's fault but it seems like the cops they have cops now all over across the street they have cops in that Tim Hortons Plaza Starbucks Plaza, CIBC Bank, you know even going back by the Fortinos they have more cops patrolling the neighborhoods so homeowners should like that yeah I mean at the end of the day at the end of the day Wonderland is a really high paying taxpayer for the city they're a really big employer in Ontario a really big employer in Ontario not many businesses can say they hire 5,000 people seasonally and they're big for the businesses that surround the park they're building hotels now there's three new hotels going up in the area imagine if Wonderland's attendance just got cut in half yeah yes these teens aren't staying at the hotels but what I'm trying to get at is a lot of businesses that are being dependent on Canada's Wonderland success so at the end of the day Wonderland may be causing or might be you know in relation to the problems occurring across the street but they're also a huge blessing so it's a double edged sword and it's something the community needs to figure out Wonderland can't control teens becoming this way outside the park in their own homes it's the parents and the education system so Brennan's going for a lobster look someone banned that Patreon I'm kidding not Wonderland thinking they're universal wait what Wonderland's not building three hotels guys Wonderland's not building three hotels other companies are building three hotels Wonderland's not getting a hotel oh my god yeah so let me correct that Wonderland isn't building any hotels right now they're all on hold or the one is on hold alright the exciting stuff wait does anyone have any other questions anyone want to ream us out for the chaperone policy I know my opinion is controversial I'm going to say wait till 10pm close and then we're going to see yeah I'm sorry guys back to Tundra Twister temporarily did you guys see the new operation by York regional police oh I think that's what he was referring to yes behave it was really good to be honest is Snoopy going to be open tomorrow give us your thoughts on 2025 wow wow what in the distance markers no more fountain shows I know that's weird to me that they got rid of the front gate show yeah am I really that red yeah you're pretty red but your hands are tanned I don't know how that was became tan looks like you've been put through like 30 x-rays are you serious oh my god I'm still cute surf coaster 2025 shut up no the podcast is cancelled may I have your attention hey spring mate keep up the great channel thank you it's happening it's getting confusing I'm lost I'm concerned I don't know anymore I literally 2023 attractions I kind of had an idea I mean it is really early I didn't know 2023 until the way through the season so it's not time yet but I'm telling you right now I'm lost I'm so lost I found distance markings in planet Snoopy today I'm lost I don't know what's going on in Wonderland anymore there's so many construction projects we have yes I don't know what years I don't know what like it could literally be like anything you know what give me a second here oh let me talk okay guys keep an eye there tell me if they can still hear and see you can you guys still hear this is guys we've never done this before I'm doing something else well doing this is pretty cool actually can't wait to try pipeline okay guys would you like a pipeline to come at Wonderland would you like a launch stand up coaster by B&M to come at Wonderland honestly I can they hear you? yeah they can hear someone just said yes no no no no people are saying no to the pipeline oh okay okay definitely not so the thing is I think sooner rather than later Wonderland is obviously going to need to design attractions with extreme capacity and when I think of capacity I think of a wing coaster so and if you design it right like you could probably like gatekeeper what can someone look up what gatekeeper does it's like 16 or 1700 an hour I think if you know design it with a better block zone maybe make it a little bit longer and taller you could probably crank that thing up to like 1800-1900 an hour so I think a wing coaster is definitely coming I do not think we are getting a stand up launch coaster I don't think we're getting a surf coaster and to be honest I don't think any other park is going to get one I think that was a one-off with what Mr. Sandwich said though you can take that you know principle of a launch stand up coaster that B&M did and we're only talking about B&M for right now but you can take that principle of what B&M did with a launch stand up and you can put it in any other model like imagine a sit down B&M like Mr. Sandwich said like Koomba but with 120 kilometer an hour launch seven inversions or imagine a B&M invert launch or a B&M wing launch fingers crossed but I think what B&M was trying to do with pipeline was kind of proved to themselves that you know they did Thunderbird but they fully didn't do Thunderbird another company helped out with Thunderbird Hulk they didn't do the drive tire system but B&M they really sat back down and they're like let's try and launch it and even with the launch shuttle wing in Europe what does that one Mendele's mayhem or whatever they were able to do that so now I think B&M is like okay we can do it now let's see where else we how else we can apply it I don't what another another what goddamn B&M in Canada's Wonderland I'm so sick of these boring long-ass elements that B&M designs what Intamin can do in five feet of space B&M takes 600 feet of space to do I will say though you know what okay they do they do but and I would love an Intamin I would love something like Maverick again don't get me started with Lawson Coaster Trigger I'm literally gonna fight you okay here I got a treat for you guys team surf coaster let's watch that oh I see what it's doing I was like why is it so large okay you can keep talking I'm editing okay now that I'm actually like looking at this this looks pretty boring I've been telling everyone okay can we talk about this is now turning into the I actually pretty I think I said this looks kind of slow though was was that a trim break yeah you know B&M is putting a trim break on everything and everyone's like oh you can jump it's so great you can jump you can jump this is still it's boring in like do you see that turn back there Intamin would have done that in less that's true Intamin would have like thrown a few death twists in there I am concerned about the positioning of that trim break that did not look very fun why it was like all so low to the ground you're just killing all the speed okay let's actually let's watch it again let's let's see what's what's going on everyone loves it I don't know why I hate it I hate it like look right here you know B&M that's so boring on a B&M you know it's so boring on a B&M it doesn't look like it goes 100 kilometers it's a turnaround that Leviathan does and there you had an S turn oh and a slow wing coaster inversion the trim break the massive trim break you guys find this amazing guys Wonderlands literally gonna get this and they're gonna call it Sky Rider like this like I get it like yes for SeaWorld this is amazing we have three B&M's that do these turns and twists and inversions it's gonna be Norm's retirement present I know it's gonna be like hey take this I don't want a B&M if I see B&M track wrapping in the parking lot I'm getting my little Honda Civic hooking it up to the track and like driving it out I'm taking it back to Ohio I get to the border like dragging this big piece what about a B&M invert like Banshee no even if I want a B&M no no more B&M's temporarily like can we put a pause I'm spinning everywhere I'm so triggered no more B&M's I'm starting a whole I'm gonna make shirts no more B&M's I'm gonna start a movement no more B&M no wing coaster yet okay we need we need an intimate we need something I have actually lost faith in us getting a mock as of recent the more I think about intimate and B&M I don't know about mock I told you I was gonna lecture you he's changing his opinion already all day at the park today he's like B&M would be so great okay okay wait a minute the wing coaster's gonna do this element you know the one that every single one does and dive coaster and it's gonna be so great you know I don't like Yukon but like a wing coaster doing that same element is so amazing I would take gatekeeper over Yukon hands down I would because Yukon's so short okay first of all what Yukon does like that because Yukon does have speed the wing coaster does like this and then she valleys at your point they had to put nylon does valley actually quite often with people on it too but ours wouldn't valley ours if we got a wing coaster we would get like the fury 325 of wing coasters what's the light on I don't know are we gonna get murdered now guys my house has auto sensors on the lights that turn on like when someone's walking by and the light in my hallway just went on did we get docks does someone coming here now you're like B&M B&M's like you see you're almost just standing there yeah that's good god no but if we got a wing coaster gatekeeper we got like the fury 325 of wing coasters and you know what I'm thinking about our future because the way we're handling these rides right now what if we did get a maverick and we tried riding that 30 times in a day okay but we need one of those rides that literally makes us go have to drink their drink plan and relax on a patio oh Leviathan when it's hauling makes us want to do that now yes but that's because it had the wheel heaters on now they're off I didn't gray out on it today still it's still capable they just need to run it that way but imagine us in 10 years when thunder run makes us gray out the helix were like whoa was that a drag when did this go so fast who are we kidding in 20 years from now dragons are going to be ruled unconstitutional and the gen gen M is going to cancel them because there used to be dragons in the mystical land of Narnia and they were killed off so having a dragon in your theme park is offensive that's the direction we're heading gen M is going to cancel dragons guys Herman's numbered his days are numbered his days are numbered a giga wing coaster you know that's going to be my thumbnail do you have a cat this is a roller coaster podcast oh I see why you're asking because the light sensor that I thought that was random no I don't so there's a ghost in my house I would like a GCI it would be a hyper wing by the way if we got one whatever wonderlands building in kingswood is going to be big okay they were distancing above time warp the current wing record I think is 196 so I basically am a dragon and ten years sorry it won't even be the age I am now fearfarm here this early what oh I'm so confused it was me I sent the ghost to your house thank you thank you I actually have a ghost it's true shelly shelly shelly shelly shelly okay well story time this is so off topic derailed okay so I see a female ghost a lot like I'll be laying in bed and I'll literally see a female standing in my room as if it's like a real person no harm no nothing I've learned to view it as a protective spirit well there was one day we were all playing board games and I asked a question remember should I trust or like I something like and a female voice spoke to the whole group and she was like no or yes like whatever and everyone was just like every now and then things do go bump around here yes they do but yeah she's my protective spirit I love her because she told me not to trust him in a game of risk and boy was that right yeah that is true and yeah I wouldn't be able to no she's serious no she's great she's every time I see her she's in like old and pioneer clothes too it's not like it's not like a modern ghost so she's you know I wish she would make me some homemade butter here and there Shelly okay you're gonna live rent free in my apartment at least make me some homemade butter but yeah that's that's my derailed story time they're gonna dragonfire time warp and flight deck and build on top of it right they could be an M can do anything like that I named her Shelly I think it was so random I want homemade butter but yeah I mean like okay let's now let's go into talking about the surf coaster so like the surf coaster she's beautiful every B&M's beautiful other than Leviathan okay whatever Yukon Yukon's literally they even added a plaque on it okay I don't want to they were like this is our Star Trek literally retirement home hahahaha I'm joking I wonder what if you're watching that was the opinions of Surya Kadam 325 on tiktok and not amusement insiders alright doesn't do anything something like we'll put it here oh my goodness um okay I just like the surf coaster to me like cool you can jump that seems to be what everyone's on it you can jump at a certain moment okay like right there and you fly you can ride Leviathan on the speed hill and fly oh you it's when oh you don't fly you get thrown out when it's hauling these paper straws suck Starbucks I think I don't know it just looks like it's taking the element slow maybe it needs wheel heaters or nylons I don't want to ride a coaster on a bike seat amen amen especially if you're a guy you can yeah you and time warp you can be laid on your stomach and then flopped on your back I like I like a bottom may I have your attention please remain seated this ride has stopped temporarily and will resume motion at any time please remain seated oh you're holy shit oh my goodness yeah oh we couldn't actually hear anything oh okay so what about who I'm so lost they can hear us when we go into intermission oh my god could they hear me having that breakdown no no no I made sure I muted it oh the camera just turned you have any thoughts on surf coaster I know you want to be an M I do want to be an M but not this I want to be an M invert is this any different from Thunderbird like isn't it just the same launch system what's that ugly transfer oh that's the uh storage the same launch but Thunderbird does at least inversions and you're riding on the wings which I think is cooler okay the launch looks sick look at his face yeah but then it's that element like like why couldn't they invert that by the way this is Dustin he's the guy that designs the mock extreme spinner for my videos and he runs his own company now he's an engine aeronautical engineer this is who helped me a lot with like predicting things um yeah he's a cool guy so this is him he went to media day for me and yeah so any of those really cool creations you see on the channel now this guy is behind them there's an intimate launch one coming which is so cool actually no I can't show you guys a teaser I can't I can't I can't it's really cool it's really cool he's building it the intimate uh double launch for wonderland escape designs yeah this is escape designs one of them it's a team um but yeah no I'm not showing you guys because then you'll know what the layout is before you see the cool layout patreons I'll show that's what I'll do I'll show patreons um alright um we wanted to talk about top fill dragster oh yeah oh I always miss click okay where did it go oh it's probably in my text oh Brenda what's going on here I was revealing private to you today has been a day oh boy some of my sources there oh goodness I'm gonna have to not post this podcast I think I'm gonna have to edit out this little bit um alright back to you what do you think about top fill dragster what's going on over there I am excited for whatever they do to dragster I think the spike is gonna be 500 feet um I'm not sure about the top hat I think the max the full launch is gonna be a reverse launch that's gonna be the fastest launch it's gonna go up the 500 foot spike that it's gonna be allowed to kind of coast over the top hat um I don't think when it drops down from the top hat I don't think it's gonna go into a brake run I think there's gonna be a few things it does now when it comes out of that top hat it's doing over 200 kilometers an hour so either whatever it does next is gonna be really stretched out or there's gonna be a very very very powerful trim break um I will say though I believe cedar fair is most expensive roller coaster two date was fury 325 I think whatever they do with top top thrill dragster they're gonna top that I think dragster will be cedar fair's most expensive roller coaster I kind of agree yeah and that whole like whatever they do in that area like however they choose to theme it or you know wherever they do it I think they're gonna be spending a lot a lot of money on that but it is gonna be worth it um hello I don't know it's just mr. sandwich oh okay um I think it is gonna be worth it whatever they do and it is probably an lsm launch but there's still a part of me that's sad because that's the end of the cable launch and I don't know if you guys ever experienced top thrill dragster that launch was out of this world awesome what are your thoughts just mr. sandwich just mr. sandwich excuse me no no mr. just mr. sandwich no um what are my thoughts I think this thing is gonna be massive I also want to say I think in 2024 cedar points gonna break records for attendance throughout the train you think they're gonna beat wonderland's regional record yeah I do what dragster if they do the world's tallest fastest roller coaster our water slide it's gonna bring it's gonna bring in our action theater reno our drink stand reno is going to draw the guests in okay um I don't know what you're talking about I think cedar point might be looking into another hotel they bought already first of all wonderland no wonderland's about to take that coaster they're just building it at cedar point to test it out right and then they're gonna run one test cycle and all those cedar fan bamboy's are gonna get excited and then you're gonna see this giant quad helicopter come in and be like and then carried across the lake and then it's gonna be dropped down on kingswood I know it my sources have told me giga launch in my opinion and this is very heavily opinionated I know most of you will probably disagree with me so I'll say it I'll say steel vengeance and fury 325 in my opinion are cedar fairs most polarizing attractions they are like the top top notch that cedar fair has to offer I also say I 305 but I don't think not too many people like that um but whatever dragster is I think that is going to be the pinnacle of roller coaster design like there is going to be no roller coaster that can match whatever dragster is going to be in my opinion like in the world like I think they're going to blow it so far out of the water oh um that yeah just everyone is going to want to ride it I'm excited can you imagine like 500 feet up okay but like so this is where I get confused like maybe you can explain to me so they're building like a 500 plus spike right it's obviously going to be massive a crane shown up next to the ride it's actually bigger than Mr. Sandwich and you guys were talking about earlier it's folded down right now because they're building it it's one of those cranes that have the like you know the like parts that come up the back of it that pull it up those big cranes I don't think it's for the top hat I think it's to start building the spike why is it by the top hat though maybe they have to build up there then move it on track like on the I think my question you have a 500 foot spike so you're launching the train backwards and it's like up the 500 foot spike and then it's going to come back down and it's going to go up a 400 foot top hat so yeah that's I I originally think or thought I kind of will still say I think that that last launch is going to be like wicked twisters last launch where it doesn't actually launch it just coasts but yeah I mean if they're going to choose like I think it's going to go forward then back and then forward again but that second pass back is going to be the maximum power the person that was complaining in here earlier about their son it's a someone I actually like a fan I like they just messaged me on Instagram I mean if they do make the top hat like 550 feet tall that then then yeah that only further reinforces the fact that that's going to be the best roller coaster in the world but to get it over 550 feet it's going to have to probably go 300 kilometers an hour and I don't know what kind of train design they're going to have to build to withstand that but at those speeds that's when it starts becoming dangerous like to have open air concepts like with debris and stuff hitting you like at that speed like your your face is going to start like peeling like think about think about like fat loss surgery yeah like it's like the fat just melts off like it's like look I'm skinny look I'm 20 again that's from my Instagram well that's Mavericks hard plastic too that's an old picture that's pre 2014 look at my face like what am I doing that was my first ever visit to Cedar Point don't see steel vengeance doing that you can tell it's old I'm wearing iber combi I can see the resemblance it's not shit posting hours yet so do you think it's either intimate or B&M for 2025 okay they want to talk about that again okay so my issue with 2025 okay it's really confusing like just to be fully transparent maybe is there another photo I can put up here okay you talk what do you think 2025 is going to be I honestly I'm starting to think I don't even know where it's going to be this is tough I'm really starting to think of B&M wing are you I'm starting to think of B&M wing I think it's going to be for capacity I mean yeah it's a wing coaster but if they do 210 like okay 220 feet tall with a 210 foot drop like that would still be really cool um you know I know we talked about this I think if they do a B&M wing it would also come with a front gate redesign so that's getting expensive and that's something that we desperately need or then the other thing is it would be in whitewater canyon with some type of a launch coaster I will say I do think what do you think we need more a launch coaster or a capacity machine a launch coaster is a capacity machine though you just ruled that out you just discredited it more than a wing coaster yeah I don't think we're going to get like the five trains that Velocity coaster has or the six trains that that has like full size trains why though if Cedar Point has a ride that has that many trains yeah but Maverick's trains are a lot smaller they're like a quarter of the size I don't think I have any photos for them okay cancel um I think it's very possible why were they looking at Velocity coaster that's true I don't know I don't know or maybe we would get something like Velocity coaster but it would I didn't I didn't not this soon I knew it was coming but I no okay let's talk about this okay no I'm going to bring up what I originally had here if I can still find it I think I deleted it this side I did it was the map of all the markings for um Kingswood oh I know where it is give me a second guys do you think I guess we should wait to see the map do you think Kingswood is 2025 or later 2025 or later yeah do you think it's for 2025 or is that still Whitewater Canyon uh did you see anything okay good um what was I supposed to see and what's the layout okay let's move this forward okay we'll bring this up here okay so what's really confusing to me is that we have two major areas of construction you have Kingswood and all of action zone to the point where Windseeker area and Skyhawk area now have distance markings now you have the Tundra Twister forest and Whitewater Canyon forest and action theater that also have markings that area had markings a whole year and a half earlier than Kingswood thank you let me save this so um I'm just gonna make this small for a sec what's confusing to me is in yesterday's update you were there when I filmed it a contractor's trucks were all being parked in Kingswood area and shipping containers were arriving which is usually a sign that construction is gonna start and when you see shipping containers arriving necessarily it's not for a flat ride it's for something major it's not for a re-theme like new shops and all that usually when construction equipment is arriving this early it's for like a coaster or a building like if they were to build a hotel I'm only saying that as an example like I'm not saying a hotel is coming so that's what confuses me because a 2025 coaster is gonna start construction any time between now if it's really massive for 2025 now if it's a big steel coaster with crazy elements like a new front gate or something they would start now or winter winter the latest for a big 2025 coaster this year so come springtime next year when you go into a park for example let's say Leviathan let's say we're back in time and 2025 is 2012 so keep that in mind 2025 is when Leviathan is supposed to open we're now in 2023 Leviathan started construction technically in 2024 spring that's when they first like dub broke ground was like end of May 2024 but things started arriving much before then like they had the parking lot fenced off already at the start of the season for Leviathan yeah crazy I didn't remember that so keep that in mind now we're coming back we're 2023 a major coaster this in my opinion what we're seeing right now in the Kingswood area is major so now what we're trying to figure out is if the 2025 coaster we've been hearing about is in front of Canada like I was predicting to finish it off because in my mind the action theater whitewater canyon forest is so unfinished sorry oh like it's so unfinished and there's such a dead zone in my opinion they would want to bring guests back there with a big coaster and to finish off Frontier Canada so to me it just made sense that they would be building some large scale coaster back in the Frontier Canada area a launch coaster my patreons know why I think that because I posted some site descriptions to them so definitely if you're a patron in the April newsletter I posted a little of heights and sizes and distances and all that so what's confusing me now is there's no new stakes from what we know I don't even see evidence that there is stakes in Frontier Canada we'll have to wait until Whitewater Canyon opens and we'll have to wait until Tunnel Twister opens but what we're seeing is signs in the Kingswood area like more activity there a lot more activity now what I'm thinking and I'm not ready to finalize this because I'm stressing guys I'm struggling I'm stressing really hard because I want to be right I want to make sure I get all the information and give you guys a really accurate prediction what I'm starting to think is Frontier Canada is going to be finished in 2024 and it's going to it's going to be a Whitewater Canyon refresh like they did to Timber Wolf because that concrete needs work too and they'll probably throw in some theming and maybe an action theater item whatever they choose they need something indoor for Winterfest they have a building there and it's really ugly there so I think they're going to revitalize the area revitalize the area I always say that with action theater and attraction in there and then 2025 will be a Kingswood coaster to start World Expo just start it and then World Expo will take place over the same time that Frontier Canada took like a three to five year investment yeah I think I think another thing too maybe they're looking at because Kingswood is such a huge area of land and if Wonderland's attendance does keep growing they're going to want to open up a massive section of the park that's historically always been closed off right so they can increase attendance numbers so it's confusing though right I'm still thinking 2025 wing there with the front gate 2025 you think that because like Whitewater Canyon area is like dead now but they already did all their work there I know we're just waiting I know I do know construction of something starts in December so but I mean it could be demolition for the tent the things showing up like Jason just said I mean it could also be Haunt Stuff maybe from Notsbury a dark ride so this is flyover Canada, Toronto yeah I know and Wonderland doesn't want to build that because it's coming to Toronto it doesn't make any sense but no we're not going to get an RMC I can't see us getting an RMC it would be nice to get top of our wooden coasters nicely fixed I think it's a BNM wing and I think you would like it I mean like yeah at the end of the day I'm going to end up liking it but I don't want another BNM well we're going to have to get used to it I'm literally no I'm going to this is all jokes if Wonderland's in here watching this is all jokes and I would never actually break any park rules and all that but I'm going to take a shit on the construction site I bet I'm going to go take a poop on the construction site if they dare build a wing coaster a BNM I'm going to go right up to there with my pants and poop I'm going to smear it on the track and I'll look up at that windseeker camera and I'll give them the finger I'm giving this is just my index finger but the finger I'll be I'm kidding all jokes aside tomorrow I'm going to go to skin in a Frank K access denied access denied I wish oh my goodness I know it's going to end up being a BNM it's going to be it's going to be like the world's longest like this is what it's going to be and you remember the Yukon advertisement it's going to it's not going to show the coaster that I can picture announcement day 2024 September roller coaster national roller coaster day the world's tallest and it'll cut scene to like a bird flying okay the world's longest and then it'll be like the bird like you know doing some sort of like weird inversion and then like you know no coaster track or anything we don't know what it is like the world's steepest fastest tallest longest you know what it's going to be called it's going to be called the Saskatchewan sore and then we're all going to be like oh my god it's going to be the intimate launch it's going to be the intimate launch because it'll end at world's fastest okay and we're all going to be like oh my god and then it'll show gatekeeper the gatekeeper the great kanda goose it'll literally be gatekeeper okay on that end of the park literally and then it'll cut scene to like them interviewing like you know how they always did the ace thing it'll cut scene to like interviewing me like you remember when the ace was like it's like about Leviathan what did they say? like it's going to be like the first of its kind of the world they'll like interview me and they'll be like you know some sort of weapon pointed at me from like off screen and I'm like it's going to be so great so I'm going to write it every day I'm going to write it every day but that's literally going to be the announcement video it's going to be like a dragon you know like a chinese dragon because world expo that's what that's what escape designs is building for one of the concepts too they're building a dragon themed wing coaster with a front gate reno and it's going to be a chinese dragon theme so it's going to be like a chinese dragon flying in and you know you're going to see the coaster tracks slowly visibly appearing as the dragon flies you know cedar fair how they do their act it's going to be like you know and a first of its kind element on a wing coaster a vertical loop they have one they have two the third wing coaster in the world to house this one of a kind element the world's tallest vertical loop loop on a wing coaster oh man the world's tallest wing over drop it's going to be gatekeeper but like 20 feet taller that's that's a hundred percent what it's going to they want the record back I agree I agree jasmine I think we should have a B&M invert going over front gate I don't want to see it what B&M invert I don't want any B&M but it's going to be a B&M look at look how the spacing like how like no other roller coaster takes up that much space B&M's are big they're bold they're in your face they're moderately you know kind of hmmm but that that screams B&M to me and we're going to sit here and we're going to enjoy it and we're going to love it nor not we want an intimate launch or mox spinner I think that's off the reservation now I think that's like that's way back there picture all the trims it's going to have I'm not sure how many it's going to take Leviathan's Valley record but just to stress again like it is it's becoming really hard to predict what's coming in the next three years because obviously Kingswood has just decided to you know amusement and satires we're looking at action theater and whitewater canyon we're like that looks cute there's some distance markings it's possible development for an excellent attraction this could be our launch coaster and then Wonderland was like backhand silence with you you will get your wing coaster and you will enjoy it we need B&M wing inverted flying serve coaster if our I would go for a flying coaster that would be fun I would too but if our park just keeps building B&M's for the next 10 years it's going to be called B&M land it's absolutely an advertisement I could totally see our park president knowing his relationship with B&M being like we'll be your advertisement give us four new B&M's in the next 10 years and yeah you can bring whoever you want here yeah you can fly people out to Wonderland and we'll be like oh you want a flying coaster that's over in Med Fair giga coaster we have one of those but it's designed like a hyper coaster it's okay that's in Med Fair as well oh you want to dive coaster go to bush gardens they have a better one what the funny thing is Europa park's tallest, fastest and longest ride is a B&M is it? yeah a silver star I've never heard of it they're literally all Wonderland's gone crazy with the chainsaws they're cutting everything down well yeah it's definitely a re-theme of action zone that we have kind of all like suspected I mean especially since these markings now go up to um Skyhawk and Windseeker um but I mean like I'm so exhausted at B&M's it would be so fun as an enthusiast to just like finally because you know like our park gets mocked by American coaster enthusiasts for being not that great look at Kings Island look what they have look what they have Kings Island like their lineup yeah but like that's not all Americans don't have a right to make fun of our park no I agree, I agree but they do, we're bullied everyone's like oh you want to go to Kansas Wonderland why Skyhawk and you know that's offensive to me as you know I cover Wonderland she's my little bae and I protect her when she needs protecting and I will insult her too when she needs insulting but you know Wonderland you are doing this to yourself now with these B&M's creating Wonderland is becoming that you know map time part I think what the actual problem is Wonderland is not getting rid of rides like Flight Deck, Time Warp, Dragonfire, The Bat Wild Bees, Mind Buster to name a few but I think that's all we have to say on topics today it's been an hour and 34 minutes so ask your few little questions and we'll answer some Kansas is not a country people yeah the Paramount Years felt like it was a torture do you go to Wonderland every day you have to miss them I'm about to miss four not oh yeah yeah why is their human resources center because they're a big employer and they need a human resources do you ask do you love Tundra Twisters logo I do I think it's really cute I actually like Snoopy's logo too even though a lot of people didn't like it it would be good on a sign whoever said the 750 foot plus coaster yeah that is true Brennan have you ever heard the original ambient music from Kansas Wonderland no I would love to do do do do are you able to host this podcast for a couple minutes so I go to the washroom I am able to host this podcast okay guys let's talk about B&M okay you do it there's the mic guys guys guys guys okay I know I know not everyone here wants a B&M but in the comments right now if we had to get a B&M what kind of a B&M would you want come on come on come on hit me with that inverted talk about bum are there any rowdy kids in the park today or no there were a few but security did an amazing job Wonderland did an amazing job of keeping things under control invert launch wing launch wing invert flyer flyer invert I think B&M flyers are probably the most intense that B&M is made outside of fury launched invert launched invert flying or inverted oh no no well yeah actually I think Alpengeist is probably actually the most intense B&M taxi jam over fury why Tundra twister high up than cyclone I do not understand that question Tundra twister is taller than cyclone in fact other than drop tower and wind seeker Tundra twister is the tallest flat ride in the park I don't necessarily count slingshot and extreme sky flyer because those are paid attractions actually grace gave us a fun fact if you go back and look at the interview with Brendan that he did that we did on this on amusement insiders she said that Tundra twister was only 3 feet shorter than the mountain that's pretty cool like you don't really think about that but that's cool perspective flight deck over leviathan Tundra twister is a couple meters shorter than the mountain yes yes that is you don't really think about it but when you're at Tundra twister looking up it's absolutely huge and okay obviously there is plenty of clearance because they do the studies they do the engineering they know what they're doing angles when Yukon is coming down off the midcourse and Tundra twister is swinging they look like they could make contact with each other like it's close it's pretty cool the gag you added do you think it will be busy monday yeah no how tall is Tundra again someone in the car I think it's 47 meters 153 feet or 154 blackout coasters I'm terribly nervous to ride I'm I'm excited it looks really cool so Tundra twister is taller than the mountain no not quite it's almost the same height I think it's I think it is 154 imagine if it was 200 feet that would be crazy although it's already crazy like time like it's a huge huge ride sorry I won't you accept my food offerings I'm trying to only eat what's on my plate I'm nervous for Tundra but I'm determined to go on it yes when do you think Tundra will be open I honestly am not sure hopefully by this weekend or next weekend I guess because it's already this weekend ah shh I meant why is Tundra high up oh I see what you're saying I'm not sure it might have to do with swing radius if I had to guess why the gondola is so high up because it wants to make sure there's enough clearance so it doesn't like swing into Yukon or the change rooms adjacent to it so you ride Leviathan with me I will ride Leviathan the waterslides yes yes the waterslides from what we see are repaired I'm going on Tundra twister and Leviathan yes would these markings have to show up like last season so they can talk to the manufacturer about the room they have for some cases yeah for some cases you have to make sure you have clearance you have to make sure you have the right of ways you have to make sure you're not going to build anywhere where there's like utilities or existing structures where you can't move I hope Tundra will be open May 19th I hope it will be open May 19th too how close does Tundra twister get to Yukon it gets pretty close um oh someone just posted something in discord that's pretty cool is that a B&M patent to get down petition to get my sister on Tundra twister yes excuse me um what other questions do you guys have ooh here we go would Wonderland ever get an indoor water park there's a place in Quebec City in the United States that have both indoor and outdoor water parks I don't know that would be pretty cool though to have an all year round water park within the city I think that's something Toronto is lacking I know Niagara Falls has one with Falls View but it's a little bit far and I think Toronto could do a better job it's getting Fastlane Plus worth it at Candace Wonderland it depends um I think all season is worth it if you're going for just a day and you don't go often and it's busy yeah it's definitely worth it is a flying B&M likely a blackout I really don't think a flying B&M is likely because they're not that popular anymore for some reason maybe it's like a maintenance problem airlines are very expensive for a B&M flyer and they are very forceful but does Wonderland need a new water park a new water slide I think Wonderland needs to do a little work in the water park yes totally agree CW should also run more rides in the winter if they can convert some of them where it's doable I agree would you imagine riding Leviathan in the snow and it's like negative 10 I've never a Manta at SeaWorld is so good that pretzel loop literally takes your breath away I don't know what the next ride to be removed at Wonderland is I have no idea but when Brendan comes back maybe he can give his opinion on that um why does all season fast lane cost a thousand dollars so it's whoa wait a minute all season fast lane doesn't cost a thousand dollars the platinum one does that gets you into every cedar fair park with fast lane how did you upload a wait time update time on youtube why are you here on the podcast I didn't I was like 4-5 days ago are you serious yes wonder that I just dropped off some BNM concepts for you in the watch room someone wants to know what you think the next ride to be removed is or if they're gonna remove a ride time warp maybe clearance issues and shitty ride issues I mean they were surveying her a lot how much is a gold past 125 dollars plus tax yes key switches I did key switches we still Mr. Excellent yes I do think that's coming to Wonderland well that's very bush gardens like I think that isn't that the original concept or is that a picture somewhere else oh I thought that was a wonderland concept that's embarrassing I think that's an actual picture I right after applicable I think fast lane is like seven eight hundred dollars why don't you see an RMC coming to wonderland the maintenance cost and they're always down and yeah you don't want that coming to wonderland it'll never be open to be fair time warp is a small footprint I'd be surprised without what are we getting in 2024 I mean I think it's pretty obvious but I I thought it was pretty obvious we were getting a launch coaster in whitewater canyon I think that I can promise you a couple of things sorry am I even on the mic um actually I can't promise you a couple of things because not suppose who my sources are I can tell you that we're not getting any good water slides I can tell you that we're not probably not getting a flying theater if what grace told this is true I can tell you that we're not getting a coaster in 2024 watch now that like it's like a GCI then our big coaster in 2025 and then there like a wing coaster in 2026 cedar fair is like here's all the money so if I were to honestly if I was to make a prediction right now this is not my final prediction but if I was to make a prediction right now I would stick to a whitewater canyon refresh something in the kids area whether it be like a little mini like drink stand or restaurant or a little flat ride for the kids again right next to snoopy's racing railway and then um obviously action theater something in action theater I'm gonna stick to the action theater I've stuck to action theater for three years now I'm sticking to action theater a gig coaster in the next seven years and now we already have our gig though yeah I I think it's like it's pretty wonder obvious until they have Kingswood when Kingswood entered the equation and all of action zone literally all of action zone it's like and where do I begin predicting we'll find out soon enough though we'll find out soon just keep picking action theater eventually I'll have to be right I mean like okay so the person who told us action theater told me all the other things that have come true so like I can't even say who it is gonna want to get them in trouble but like it was at we had an interview with a park official at Yukon Strikers opening day and they literally were like you know Wonderland's gonna get the most beautiful eating establishment in the chain Lazy Bear Lodge Wonderland is always gonna build like the tallest longest fastest steel coasters steel just does well for Wonderland that was another bit of information that came from this person and then they said action theater is going to be developed into you know an attraction sooner than later like literally like and when I he said that in 2019 I was like okay 2020 but then covid hit so then that's why it's been like all up in the air right I've only predicted action theater since 2019 you remove 2020 from the equation and most of 2021 because there were no new additions for both those years 2023 2022 and 2023 yeah it hasn't happened yet but I think I think that might be because the Toronto announcement for the flying theater too like that could have been a part of it so I'm still holding out that action theater is part of the development the whitewater canyon area is not small just wait until escape designs drops their coaster on the channel you guys will like it a lot this is cooler than the mock extreme spinner it's cool it's really big too it's like 40 million dollars for the track my sources are not saying 2024 I think I've won everyone over for 2025 now so no they're not sticking to the 2024 again this is what I was saying he can back this up when you get information from people you have to like really have to sift it like you'll get past like a bunch of information with sand gold nuggets and like rocks and you and this is what like you have to learn this as a content creator that covers like theme parks because you'll get sources all over the place you have to sift it and you like you literally have to become experienced enough to be like okay that that I can see that I can't see oh I don't know where the fuck that came from so you do and this time around I was like 2024 we're not getting a coaster that's impossible it doesn't like that doesn't make sense it has to be 2025 there's too many big parks getting coasters in 2024 how does wonderland fit into that equation it fits in in 2025 and then this little guy little came in with the missing puzzle piece that literally solidifies 2025 as the coaster year so now it's like okay 2025 is the coaster year so everyone's like okay 2025 is the coaster year we'll never get a parking structure at wonderland and we don't need one anymore we really don't need one anymore that's what we talked about at the start is I like today was a busy day but the parking lot wasn't even half full and a lot of people just seemed to come dropped off maybe they walk over because they live in the area or they take transit over yeah um but yeah honestly it's like I have to we'll know more information at the end of the year they're gonna start digging grounds soon for 2025 not even the end of the year like come mid-summer yeah look well because if it's whitewater canyon you're gonna have to see tree removal yeah um and also corn stalkers will be a telltale sign yeah and even um whatever is going on in um action theater right because there's a maze in there yeah so these four new mazes are what's interesting oh you know what when they put vampire disco they put in the same area yeah that's true that'll that'll be there'll be so like so for example if vampire disco is moved then you know Kingswood is probably gonna be under construction sometimes soon or if action theater loses its haunt maze then you know that something's gonna be the basement of the mountain if that's then that's our 2024 coaster oh my god if my sources end up being right I'm gonna be so mad um I want another beam dive coaster that's similar to you gonna try this uh that's why I didn't know they cost that yeah parking structures cost a lot and the maintenance on them is apparently insane feel those trees around we're removed for more than one reason it's a great spot for nebula see um from what we know the trees were just removed because one fell on the ride like um and they had to rebuild the ride from scratch I could only remove the ride and rebuild it that's the only reason those trees were removed from what I understand you could be right from what I understand a tree had fallen on the ride and the ride went boop what is 25 is a mix of the big three has a wing it says if they need not oh my god I'm literally gonna boop on the ride I'll show you says why does the LC even cost Brennan why does the all season fast lane cost one thing that isn't so expensive why is that why does it cost a lot it's a thousand dollars on the platinum pass isn't it yeah for all season that's because it's very any other questions before we end this podcast this was a long one this was a very interesting this was a long one we're really dead we would definitely look a lot less energy because yeah going to wonderland every day is kicking my butt at least ah yes we discussed the tundra checklist today uh front gate I can't discuss front gate the park okay just to be transparent the park has asked us not to discuss anything going on at front gate so so we're gonna stop talking about front gate you better have given me a shot key switches key switches saw a checklist no I never I don't think one of them would ever bulldoze the forest but they all need to cut a line and wonderland isn't tree conscious anymore jasmine I think when you visit the park this season there's a lot of cut down trees someone from cedar point came to wonderland like yes someone went a little chainsaw happy around the park everywhere they're getting paid per tree you'll be walking around the park and there's just like stumps everywhere now they're cutting down all the winter fest decorations sir you're gonna go live tonight I am I'll get home I'll probably be live around 12 30 12 45 12 30 12 45 am on siria's tiktok sir he has three two five three two five I don't know if I'll be awake but I'll try to be yes and um we will be at the park tomorrow it's mother's day happy mother's day I guess tomorrow's mother's day I'm kidding mothers are awesome I'll be in discord immediately after I'm again I am I look so out of it I'm tired guys any of you who are on patreon and all that know from my videos too I've overworked myself yeah but yeah thank you for joining us today I promise I'll regain some energy next you guys some rest days okay so see you at siria's live stream bye guys bye was that your stomach my stomach that sounded like a dragon I know something's going on