 So the rules for deducting interest vary depending on whether the loan proceeds are used for business, personal or investment activities. So if you looked at this just from like, if you're like, just saying, hey, I have an income tax, what's the kind of loan that you would expect would be deductible? You would expect the loan for business to be deductible. If you took out a business loan, for example, and you bought stuff that you're going to use to generate revenue, such as a sole proprietorship, then you don't get to deduct the principal payments on the loan, like the mortgage payments that people make the actual payments, but the renting of the money, the renting of the purchasing power, which is called interest, possibly could be deductible. So if it was a business expense, that seems kind of natural. You needed that money in order to generate the revenue. Therefore, the expense on it would be deductible naturally for a...