 What's up everybody and welcome to the season finale of Falcons in Focus the first season of this podcast is wrapping up I'm Scott Bear. That's Tori McElaney next to me Falcons team president Greg Beatles How does that title sound by the way brand new? Arthur Blank promoted Greg from an already illustrious position team presidents Quite quite an accomplishment for somebody who grew up in the area started as an intern. What is this? Reaching this level of the organization and what you can do for it moving forward like what does it mean to you? To be the president of a team that you grew up cheering for Well, first of all, thank you guys For having me on here. It's a privilege especially the last episode. That's pretty cool Scott, I mean it's it's You know something I could have never dreamed about Starting with the organization a little more than 28 years ago finishing up my graduate degree and and you know, it's I thought was going to be sort of a short short term internship gig for about 10 weeks and It's been a little bit longer than 10 weeks You know, I like to say I started as an intern and now I'm just I try to see myself as a glorified intern I'm still just trying to do, you know, whatever the organization Needs and where I can bring value and benefit to to everyone. So that's what I try to do every day Now you talk about that internship and I would like to go on the record that you did that internship If I'm wrong, tell me but in 1995, right? Yes Don't get already knows where it's coming. Tell me how many years that is before you were born It wasn't that many years, but I was born January 30th, 1996. Okay, so In in this context, I think that should be Celebrated the fact that for my entire life plus a year you have been with this organization. That's pretty cool Yeah, and and you ever hear that that like it's that rap song lyric starter from the bottom now We hear yeah, that's it. So we're gonna start We're gonna start at the beginning right you join this organization as a 10-week interned You had other options on the table coming out of your master's degree program from Georgia State Right, how and why did you end up taking this 10 week? Gig way back when sure So so I had had come back to Georgia and moved to Atlanta and Went to graduate school to give my master's in sports administration at at Georgia State as you stated and so as the last thing had to do was it was an internship and so had a had a couple of different opportunities and One was was here with the Falcons would talk about that and another was with Georgia Tech's athletic department and Had a third as a as a full-time job offer at Washington State University at in Pullman, Washington Which is far a little bit further, you know than Georgia State here a little colder And It's gotten I were talking about earlier just that I pulled out an atlas because there were no Google Maps or ways at the time. Yeah, Tori. I don't know if you know that but Google Maps hasn't been around forever I couldn't drive anywhere without it And just Kind of was plotting it out trying to play in think about, you know, how far this really is and Halfway is Denver, you know in 20-hour drive my little beat-up car and that was just a little too far So I decided to stay in town and with the home hometown team took the Falcons internship. Love it now at that time They were in they were still in swanee, correct. Yes, please tell us a little bit about that time period and that Internship but not just that but the state of what the Falcons were at that time Yeah, so even the state of Atlanta like swanee was the furthest outpost Yeah from from the suburbs if you were out there you're like how far to you know till we get to Atlanta now You feel like you're in town and everything way before you you get there if you come in say south from 85 But it was a lot different it was a different ownership. So so mr. Blank Bought the team the end of 2001 2002 was his first season. So so we're talking about seven seven years before then So the original owners the Smith family Who great folks? Really enjoyed working with them still still try to stay in touch with them several of them still still here in town But we our training camp. Yes in swanee right off 85. There's a there's a big office complex there now But we owned the Falcon Inn and conference center. Okay, which was a hotel and conference center And we and we had training camp there. Yeah for the longest period of time And then we also owned a public health club. So the so the Falcon complex and so it was big when racquetball was was all the rage And so so we helped to run those two businesses Along with with the team, of course, but we had training camp there There was a McDonald's behind it and so folks would come and sit on this hill behind the McDonald's and watch practice and training camp Back in the day. So it was a little bit different Yeah, right and and you're an intern and you're surviving on an intern's income, right? What was that period like you're probably eating a lot of McDonald's to get by at that point Yeah, the the cool thing was that the staff got to eat next door at the Falcon Inn Oh, you know in restaurants. So of course me and the other young folks That's where we hung out as much as we could you know to to get some food But but it was I mean it was such a great time for me Just you know, I'd never been around anything like that. And so just just the ability to To learn and help out in different areas that I could you know I kind of split my time then between those different businesses But we were much much smaller shop. So I started out in the finance group Which was three people. Okay for every asset group. It makes it sound bigger than it is Yeah, yeah, that's right. And and so, you know the guys that I worked with my boss did Player negotiations salary cap and then you know just the normal things you think about with finance and budgeting and all that so Got to learn, you know salary cap the collective bargaining agreement all those sort of things from early on which You know just a great experience. It's crazy to think about the changes over the since that point and where we are now with Everything I mean, it's a full-on operation like the growth of it is unreal when you really sit down And you say there were three people in our finance department in 1995 1996. That's Mind-boggling to me as a professional like sporting team I mean sure, but it's it just goes back to kind of like where it was at the time now Another thing that I believe Scott told me as well. The players stayed at like a best Western like like A best Western franchise it's okay for some period of time. Yeah, and so that's where they would that's where they'd stay During camp. That's where the coaches would stay and is that where the staff was staying to or did you have an apartment or something? For those that stayed during camp, you know, those of us live nearby just just went home like like now But yeah, yeah, wow. Wow, that's a lot different. I mean in those early days Do you have like a a story that sticks out as like this is really me living the intern life for the There is there a moment maybe it was an odd job or or something that really sticks out in your mind Yeah, yeah, there was a there was a few so Around that that time is when so there's also Tory this thing called the internet has resisted forever, right? And so a few of us our IT department and myself and our PR team We actually started Atlanta Falcons comm. Oh, well went out and like secured the URL way back in the day and started it and then my My big thing with that was I started the team store online So we didn't have it before then and so 98 when we won the NFC championship went to the Super Bowl was the first year that we had an online store and so So I took the pictures of all the product ordered the product uploaded on to a yahoo store that I got all the emails for the orders and then my wife Jill would come during lunch and help me ship it all out So we had a storage room over at the Falcon Inn And so we'd box it all up and UPS would come and especially that year because the playoffs we sold $400,000 of merchandise which back then was a whole lot. Yeah But but that was pretty that was pretty cool and another just learning like how does this stuff even work? I was the internet. How do you upload a picture and all that kind of stuff? You know we did from the very beginning. So so that was one one fun example Wow, you've done you've been involved in almost every department within the organization, right? But you've also had some fun odd jobs, right? Like yeah, like I think that you told me that you you started doing pre and post snap still photos like you go up to the coaches box like What was that environment like like you're in a game You're trying to get the stuff down to the field because it's not getting sent down there Right and coaches are probably either pretty upset or pretty excited. It must have been a really ending on the game Crazy environment to be in like tell us more about that one It was so, you know, we all sort of had our normal quote day jobs But then on on game days, we'd help out any way that we can so one of the ones I did for several years was take the the steel photos And so, you know now we have the Microsoft surface and all the big technology and it downloads and all that sort of thing so in the early days we would we would First we only had one camera like up in the coaches box or a feed to the coaches box And so, you know, we had a little black-and-white TV about this big and we're trying to look and see the best Second to kind of get the pre snap and post post snap reads and it print out on fax paper I'm not really not this old I don't think I am Print out on fax paper and and we punch three holes in it and put it in a three-ring binder And so the coaches up in the in the box would look at it and then we would send the same Book down on the field for the players and coaches to look at it So just think about the time the different, you know, how long it takes to get down there And so our good buddy Spencer Treadable who's our VP of operations now He was he was one of that one of the runners And so he would run it down to the sideline and everything and then he'd deliver messages back up, you know Hey, you know the offensive coordinator is not happy with how you're taking the picture. You need to do it faster slow or whatever and Sometimes when I was doing on the field, I did have a few coaches come over and you know Have a have a few words with us about it's taking too long or whatever So that's pretty stressful as a as an intern or a young a young guy with With the football coaches and everything that they're having to deal with going on It's like we're trying our best. We're really running It's so I was I was thinking about this and I talked to Spencer about and he actually couldn't remember this so I so I Texted one of our former video directors yesterday to confirm this make sure I wasn't In New Orleans The in-zone camera location was up really high and still is but you you pretty much had to like Climb into the air duct system for where they would set up the cameras. Okay, and What we did up there to keep from having to it would take 20 minutes to get down to the field and so From Brian Borgner our equipment manager We we would get a sock an athletic sock and put a piece of soap in it Put the pictures in tie a knot and during timeouts. We would throw it down On the field from like the 700 level of the Superdome So we'd have to wait make sure our guy was down there So, you know no ref for anybody we'd get hit and sling this sock down on the field and Yeah, so it's a little the technology is a little bit different. We were innovating continuously even back then with the sock Honestly, it's it's now I feel like that. It's the same concept as the parachute drop now that they do at Mercedes Benz Stadium That would have been safer You also worked on the stat crew right? Yes For a while and you grew up you played baseball and basketball Yeah, right, but you really get a chance to learn the game when you're doing player participation You know snap in and snap out understanding these stats and being around these coaches You really kind of got immersed in the game in a way that you know few people do that. Yeah, that was definitely help for me Just to better my understanding of the game because I did my dad was a college basketball coach his whole career 50 plus years so reminds me a lot of coach peas, you know retiring after 50 years in the business and so that's what I grew up around and and Never never played football. It was around it very much And so those early years of being in the in the coaches box and hearing the guys talk about it Me being able to ask him later when the pressure was off just about you know strategy and things like that really helped and Yeah, doing player keeping up with player participation for contract purposes, you know I started to say okay on third down these guys are coming in and those guys are going off and you know Start to understand what what the coaches and the team was trying to do was helpful. Nice. I like that you brought up Your dad as well. I'm a coach's kid. I feel like we it's almost like a fraternity Because it's like we understand we speak the same language. Did he ever coach you did you play basketball? And did he ever I did so he he coached. He was an assistant coach For I played college basketball one season at a small school and he was there So that was that was interesting Before that I did a lot of basketball camps, you know that he was leading and things like that and so When you're when your dad's your coach Whenever someone needs to be picked on or made You know made a lesson out of it was it's always you know you so So so yeah, and that's there's a lot of good. I think that comes out of that But I did yeah, I did play with him for one season. How much did I guess like him being Even though it's you know basketball world, but in the sports world and and kind of being Yeah, how did that kind of shape you into kind of your trajectory and what you wanted to do Just a huge influence You know so he was he was at smaller NAI Schools and so like we're talking about how our business has grown a little bit smaller But all the same the same basics. I think the biggest thing Just being able to relate to the coaching lifestyle. Yeah, it's very different. It's just one of the hardest jobs just the pressure they have and How they've got to move around and so being able to relate to those guys, you know Just I think comes a little bit more natural and understanding where they're coming from And thinking about their families, you know and when we get to meet them and talk about them being able to relate to Them and understand how much you know, they're sacrificing for the for the good of the team I think has given me a good perspective over the years And there was a point where your first job out of undergrad at LSU was in the oil and gas industry Yes, right and it was more finance based and obviously not in sports, right? That didn't last very long No Went to LSU for my undergrad congratulations to the dogs We are recording this the day after the dogs won the national championship, so it's always very exciting. I'm pretty pumped Congratulations Went to LSU and my first job was in Houston, Texas in the oil and gas industry. So worked for a company that did underwater drilling and Built drilling Derrick's and things like that. So very exciting For some people So, you know, I was there a couple years and learned a lot just about about business But just I figured out pretty quick It was not what I wanted to do and how I wanted to spend the rest of my life, you know, or my career at least So started thinking about other options and you know combining sports and business because of the background with my dad and then my interest in business So that's when I decided to come to graduate school and come back home My family had had moved back to Georgia at the time and most everyone was here. So it was just a natural Move to make it that point. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, so so then you get in with the Falcons We're kind of having a lot of fun talking about the old days, right? But you've also been instrumental in taking this This team this organization into the future, right? And kind of everything about what's developed, you know throughout this process and that's kind of where I want to get Into next and I think obviously you go back to when Arthur blank bought the team You were part of the process of selling the team to Arthur, but Meeting Arthur blank for the first time. I mean, I mean, he's just he's such a magnetic personality and go get her type of thing What was that experience like meeting him and you know, what was it like back then? Yeah back then. I mean it was it was scary You know, so so you think about it selling the team and our small little group my boss and I basically helped to Help to sell the team to Arthur and his team. So, you know, there's a story where our see if at the time His name is Jim. Hey was a great mentor to me He and I walked into a room where we were going to go through all start the process with all of Arthur's team When I say all of Arthur's team, there were 17 people around the table Okay from his side and there were me and my boss on the other side And so we're we're going through explaining how to player contracts work and summary of all of those how to sponsorship deals work How does the NFL revenue sharing? We're just all the things of the business and You know, Arthur's got bankers from two different banks Two different legal firms and all that you guys being like, yeah, and we're like, okay You know, that was several several days and weeks of kind of going through everything and and then of course The data room was actually a room with a bunch of paper. It wasn't you know in the cloud. So But it but it was good After that process Arthur decided to let me stay around so that so that was good and my boss retired Just a few months after that and so Arthur promoted me at that time the first time that I was an officer I didn't really know what a what that meant vice president but Just really was able to jump in with with him from the very beginning and you know he took me to the first NFL owners meeting and You know, I he wanted me to help introduce him to a bunch of people around the league And so the three people that I knew And and then made a lot of quick introductions, you know before I was introducing him to the next person and and and so we We've been doing that working together now for more than more than 20 years So that's great. That's crazy, too I mean the there aren't very many people who I think can say that they went through a They were with the organization and then it gets sold to a new person new owner And then continued with the organization after that going back to that time. You said, you know, there was like some fear there There it was kind of it was scary. I mean Can you speak more to what that time really felt like as you're kind of going through this like Who is this Arthur Blank guy? What's it gonna do with this organization type of thing? What those feelings? Yeah, that's great. I mean it was it was a good mix of excitement because here's this super successful business person Very professional with a lot of resources coming coming and purchasing the team and then a lot of times, you know When when any any business there's a new owner comes in a lot of times They want to bring their own people like financial people and legal people That they've worked with so so there was definitely apprehension, you know about that and so You know after I think it was even for Arthur we closed the deal with Arthur He wanted to go around and meet All the you know the leaders of the business like each department head And so he took time went around sat and sat in everybody's office to ask him what they did and and so there were some positions You know the assistant pro personnel director. Yeah, Arthur had no idea what that was at the time And so he's like, okay, tell me what you do. How does this work? And so, you know, I'm the finance guy So he comes in and sits down and closes the door and says okay pull out the financial statements We're gonna go through every single page line by line. I want to know this So there was no learning, you know, what I was supposed to be doing. He knew right away And almost like hindered spirits There is I mean we definitely spoke the same language and I think you know that brought him a comfort that that I understood The business and I could speak in his same language. It wasn't something that he had he had to learn So we we built that rapport Early on and and really we've been talking so much about your experience with the Falcons But but you've but you've represented Mr. Blank in getting the Atlanta United up and running There's I don't know if anybody knows but there's a beautiful venue down and down in Atlanta's West Side That's one of the best in the world. Right? You ever heard of that one Mercedes Benz Stadium. Yeah, you were instrumental in getting that Project done right a very big project I don't even know how to describe that other than in talking to you and talking to others that this is a years-long process And I and I guess you know What are you most proud of from? going from an Idea and your brain and Arthur's brain in the organization's brain to seeing the Majesty of what it's become or the magnitude, you know, I think that every NFL stadium Right, nothing like it. Yeah. Yeah, what are you most proud of from that? Yeah So I mean the idea definitely came from Arthur's brain at the very beginning early on at the Georgia Dome Great partners for us the Georgia will Congress shoulder can still a great partner partner for us and we'll be for a long time But it wasn't our stadium, you know, we were the the primary tenant there, but still a tenant so we didn't control a Lot about the game day We didn't even at the beginning sell the sponsorships, which is you know, today just kind of foreign to think about We didn't sell the premium seating the club seats or the or the suites We later kind of started to transition where we took some of those things over But Arthur wanted to be in control and you know come from Home Depot just the customer experience He wanted to be sure that we could 100% control the fan experience So one of the one of the early things he asked all of us was what do we need to do to own our own stadium to build Our own stadium and so we started working on that, you know, very very early With Atlanta United We talked pretty seriously to the MLS all the way back in 2007 wow about potentially having a franchise and got along pretty pretty far with that and once our Negotiations discussions about the new stadium really started heating up and we knew it was going to be a reality Arthur wanted to pause very wisely because He was about the only one that thought hey, we could do this downtown in a NFL sized stadium You know when the rest of the MLS was going out in suburbs and and just kind of marketing and doing things a little bit differently So he had that foresight So we kind of hit pause on that focused on on on the stadium and the negotiations which You know we're we're years into making before we got to put in shovel in the ground In 2013 so all the different sites that we looked at potentially Downtown outside of Atlanta. We had a lot of incoming, you know Municipalities and counties that that heard that we were thinking about a new stadium We fully vetted whether or not the Georgia dome could be renovated or not and that was months and months and months to work through all that and We along with the Georgia or Congress Center in the state Decided it was almost as expensive to do a renovation on the Georgia dome as build a new one and It would have limitations on it just because of the structure and everything else so You know overall from the very beginning of starting to parse through all that to the day that we opened it in summer 2017 was was probably pretty close to 10 years, you know for Arthur and Rich and I and a few others man It's it's fun too because I the I believe this is at the family office I'm not entirely sure but there's a diagram of like the first diagram that was presented to you guys of Mercedes-Benz stadium and it's it's it's funny because it's it's big But it's it's small compared to the main thing But it's it's cool looking at that and being like this I mean everything comes from an idea everything's built upon an idea and a thought but When you look back at that time and kind of the early planning days of what this was gonna be Is there anything that was that like surprises you about what is there now if that makes it? Yeah, yeah, sure I've got a couple of sketches hanging up in my office that The architects first did when they were first pitching the idea of the roof and all of that and It's a perspective looking from the west side out to what we call the window to the city Mm-hmm, and what strikes me when I look at it is it's almost identical to what really happened really and that's you know that's so rare in any kind of architectural design anything and Especially something of that size and magnitude Because this was from like our very first sketchbook that they gave us and there's so many revisions meetings changes after that but that vision that they had and that we all bought into Stayed pretty consistent, and then we just worked around it to make it happen. That's cool Yeah, and then so you you get to the point now you've worked in Not only just the Falcons organization, but the stadium and the soccer team and all of Arthur Blanks businesses And now you're really refocused on the Falcons, right as the Falcons team president And that's that would like that would be a great accomplishment for anybody no matter where they came from But you have a Steve Barkowski jersey, right like you grew up a Falcons fan. What does that add to? to this I wish I still had had that jersey I asked my sister if she could find some pictures, so I think she's digging around trying to find them But I would definitely have Bart who's a good friend to sign that for me Yeah, it's it. I mean, it's really special so Growing up in the Falcons as I did and we got to the point where Arthur bought the team and then Started working on a and BSE so all the sports entities Really back in earnest back in in 2012. So, you know the last 10 or 11 years I wouldn't trade it for anything so being able to work on all the stadium things being able to launch United and and help to oversee all that from a Strategy and financial perspective has been wonderful but I have you know bounced around a lot and Gone from flowery branch to downtown to Marietta Arthur's family office way more times than I want Account I have an electric car. So that is help for sure But being able to come back and just we kind of started it last year getting getting refocused on on flowery branch and Rebuilding and building further building sort of the team Identity and team culture and not not you know just on the field But all of us that at that work up here as one and so we had that for a long time and then With a and BSE we have a lot of great people and they're all helping out all these businesses And so I think that has suffered a little bit over over the last several years And so last couple years feels like we're we're rebuilding that and making people Proud to you know to work for the team and not feel like we're working for sports and entertainment You know corporate business, right that makes sense. Yeah, no, and it's I mean even to that end just the facilities here I mean we're inside the Falcon's indoor practice facility on on this campus that when you started wasn't even a thing And now there are I mean Ticketmaster Studios Dorms out there, right. It's just wild to think about the growth that I Mean over the course of your career that this organization has had But even in that I think to break it down on a microscopic level like This I feel like from everything I've read about you and what you're talking about is like this has always been about family and for you I Love the story of you and your wife literally shipping out in 1998 all of the all this merchandise and everything What has the family your wife Jill? meant to you in these 28 years because it is a family thing. It's a family business. So some of our friends read the Article that Scott wrote yesterday, and so they were texting Jill and I and making fun of her for shipping out the boxes I said I gave her the day off today. She's not having to ship any boxes out Right back on it today Yeah, it's it's you know, we're we live 10 miles from here and have for a long time and so this this part of town is is is important to us our roots are here our Families nearby my extended family, you know lives lives in the area so It is important. I've got four kids and they all love going going to our games and our events down at the stadium and so You know not only do we want our business here and everybody works here to feel like the Falcons family But my personal family it's it's important as well. Yeah, and now I mean this really is a full circle I think moment and Can you imagine? Like 13 year old Greg like what he would think about where you ended up and to kind of be like, yeah, man It's all gonna work out. I'm gonna be the president of this organization You like so much. I mean it's so far-fetched. You know, I didn't probably didn't even know what a president was seriously so I Grew up very small rural area up in Northeast Georgia. We have one flashing yellow light. I think still From a town that had one red what we had a red light, but So I wouldn't even been able to fathom it or comprehend it just Especially the way the business is now compared to when I started all right. We have reached the point I think it's my favorite section of the podcast. Definitely rapid fire. Yeah, Greg Beatles. You're officially on the hot seat Just like Grady Jarrett and Drake London before you and we're gonna ask you no joke the exact same questions Okay, everybody gets the same everybody gets the same ones But I mean you can kind of interpret them how how you can't you know watch the show back here We do that's the best when people actually aren't prepared for the question Question number one your favorite play as a Falcon or game could be a game for you Okay, so I would say the 1998 season NFC championship game Okay at Minnesota and so I was in the coaches box doing the pictures then and so just Amazing game amazing experience the euphoria afterwards Everything that happened after that leading up to the Super Bowl obviously wish I could say that was a favorite game but you know, that was just that was really early in my career and just Unbelievable experience to go through that What is either your one of your favorite TV shows or something that you're binge watching right now like what's on in the Beatles household? So I have I'm a few years behind, but I have started watching The Good Place. Yes, I love that show I'm in season two. So my my second oldest child my son in college Clued me in on it and And so I realize now He's been going around saying these things and I didn't know it was from You know, do you have a nefarious agenda You know eight or nine episodes in that I'm like Tell me that so that was kind of a little Easter egg to find out. So I'm watching that right now I finished the show. It only gets better. Oh good and more philosophical, but in a super but in a good way Yeah, yeah question number three Who is your favorite former Falcons player? Oh, I know that's hard That is hard I I So I'll say Michael Vic, okay, and there's a lot of pros and cons and everything with with Mike, but I think obviously the excitement that he brought to the game the way he helped to change the game as it's played in NFL today And then just what Mike has been able to do with his life after all of his difficulties and where he's at today I think he's a great role model for for kids So love him what he did on the field and what he's doing now this life is great Know what's so cool is there there are a number of Falcons on the roster now who grew up Oh, yeah Atlanta area and you every single one of them is like, yeah, I had my number seven right Yeah, everybody had one that he I didn't live here then but that he captivated well Yeah, I lived across the country and he captivated the whole country But I think especially this market there was something that he inspired a lot of these kids who came up and became really great football players So I definitely like that answer. This is gonna be an interesting question. Oh, yeah And it might be our favorite one. Yeah, which Falcon and that's anybody in the organization Obviously not roster coach, but which Falcon do you hang out with the most? So I have to say rich McKay So for one our offices are right next door to each other and You know, it doesn't matter if I'm on, you know, the most important teams call video whatever You know, he just come busted in the door and and start talking like Sorry everyone all 100 people that I'm addressing right now Let me let me put you on mute so I can I can help coach McKay out here But yeah, it's definitely rich. So so, you know from business perspective, you know, we we've worked together for close to 20 years now and We're we're very symbiotic. I think in just complimenting one another. I was about to say y'all are two very different styles Yes, and I think that's why y'all probably work so well together. I agree. I think that's definitely it So areas that that I'm weekend, you know, he's stronger in and vice versa You know, he'll like to come in and throw out an idea or write it on my whiteboard and then I have to actually figure out Okay, is this something that's real that we can actually do and and And sometimes if I'm studying something and I've gone through a hundred different Iterations of it to make sure it's just right. He's like, you know Beatles We have to actually move forward and do this So and and you know, then we just enjoy one another outside the office as well You know, he's he's a coach's kid too. So we have that, you know as kind of a natural connection His family's great knows family well and and vice versa. So yeah, I sat in his office the other day talking about you And he said Greg is a master of the details an area where I am incredibly deficient That he that yeah, he comes in with he wanted that to me All right last one last one what is your biggest pet peeve? Yeah, we've had a lot of really good off the wall answers Avery Williams I think had my favorite one. He said it was when people say salmon and not salmon Which that I have never heard that being a specific pet peeve So that one was it that one was a good one. Yeah, we get slow drivers. We get all kinds of stuff anything pop in your head there Hey, maybe because I have too many that's taken me So my wife Jill is is definitely part of the grammar police and so she's probably worn off on me, you know on On there, you know People put it even if it's a text like I'm like just a text but but I'm afraid that's rubbed off on me So probably a little bit of the grammar police. I am in your camp one hundred comma usage is my big thing Right for living my friends get mad at me because I'll text them and they're like, why are you putting a period there? Like I use proper punctuation a comma can change the entire meaning of a sense I will get off on a tangent on that We do have to wrap this podcast at some point Greg. Thank you so much for taking the time and thanks Tutorial to everybody who's been in on this podcast since day one Yeah, we don't talk a lot of football here You get to know people within the organization and to see the positive comments and everything that we've had Talking, you know about players talking to our team president has been it's been such a positive start And we're so excited for what comes next I think Scott and I say this all the time. This is our favorite part of the week 100% when we get these moments These moments when you really get to know individuals, right? It doesn't get any better than that over a longer period Yeah, so that's been great as I always say here. Please continue to rate review subscribe to the Atlanta podcast network I think I do the same hand gesture every time But thank you guys so much the plans that we have for the future of this thing Inside now everybody knows about ticketmaster studios. There's a podcast studio in there and it is glorious. So we're all excited for that Greg, thanks once more. Thanks to everybody for downloading and listening and we will talk to you really really soon. See ya