 Welcome to church of the chair. Where we celebrate all the things we do while seated. I'm your host E here today with my co-host Chad Lutsky and we are currently collaborating on a novel called Planet Caravan. We are 30 some thousand words or more into this thing. Today I'm gonna be reading over all the stuff that Chad's been doing on his own time. I will share my screen just so you guys can see. I did kind of skim through it last night and I'm insanely shocked that you kept as much as you did. In fact, I might go back and edit some more out of this section, I don't know. We'll see, but yeah. I know you compartmentalized a lot of thoughts. I did notice that there was one thing where I kind of, I took a zigzag pattern and getting to the point and you brought like the bottom up to here and put it together and it read so much better. It's like working with an AI. You just go ahead and fix that shit. Anyways, good morning Hailey, how you doing? I hope you're doing well. I should have stuff uploaded by this weekend. I am slowly kind of pouring it into places to see how much each thing is. What I'm talking about is the merch stuff. So I'm slowly trickling stuff here and there. I tried Teespring, I tried Redbubble, I tried a couple of different ones just to see which one would come out with the cheapest T-shirt at the end of the day. So far, they're all the same. So I'm guessing they have just like a base. They probably all get their shirts from the same place is what I'm getting at. Or maybe they all use the same printer. That's the word I'm looking for because they're all the same at checkout. You joined the Twitch? Awesome, appreciate you. I'll be live with Texas Chainsaw tonight. So I'm really enjoying this new schedule. Having Wednesday morning off and then being able to play games Wednesday night and then streaming with you the four days a week then taking Sunday off. I'm really liking the new schedule. It's working out well. But I'm also not a fan of routine so it'll probably change eventually. But yes, so I'm going to share my screen. No place like home. Ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Bad things are working out for you. Thank you, Hailey. All right, I'm going to get to work so I'm not watching chat. I hate this so much but it's really the only way to say it. Hunters, smokers, cough. I hate two possessives right next to each other. But anyways, yeah, it's shit like this that I love. I went the roundabout way. Like the little bastards suck. But anyways, hang on. I picture her hand over mouth trying to hide this slivered tombstone. And I just said tombstone. Tease, she blames on the baby. The little bastards suck all your vitamin C, she'll say. No one ever correcting her because ain't none of them heard of calcium before. And I think I went on, I don't know if it was a diatribe but I went on and I would never correct her because let her be stupid or some shit like that. I don't know. Like I said, I don't remember what I wrote but the way you blended and trimmed, I like. All the bad sounds. Yeah, opportunities much better than humanity. I knew that didn't fit right. Also changing humanity to opportunity fits in with the stealing of the coke later on. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay, yeah. All right, Chad's back on that bullshit. Predicting, predicting where I'm at and shit. Disgusting. Should that be did? It's honest question. Actually, and it had, I guess either one of them works but anyways. Yeah, either one. Yeah. Now past tense and past perfects can suck my ass. I hate past perfect with a passion, sometimes the only damn way you can go. You could call it chronic bronchitis. What did I miss? Hang on, my country's chronic bronchitis. No, no, it's all right. It's okay. The smokers cough gets to the point much quicker so we want shortness of sync. But yeah, I mean, that is a possible change but I used to tell a joke to people when they were having problems with when do yous had? Just tense issues, period. It was like present tense. I walked down the road. Past tense. I walked down the road. Past perfect. I had walked down the road. Future tense. Where we're going, we don't need roads. It's like, it's a bad joke but I like, I like, I like that joke because I came up with it. I got to change this because that you took out your whore mother, you took whore out of there and then he makes reference to that several times and the upcoming stuff. So I got to go back and change that. Well, I already did. I went, okay. All right. I wasn't sure how far you got. I just didn't want to paint the mom as somebody who, I mean, I know she wasn't rich or anything, but I wanted, I didn't want to have the reader question. You're like, what does he mean by that? Was she a whore and, or maybe we picture the mother different. Like I just- No, definitely not. I just thought it was trap being an asshole. Yeah. But, I mean, it's fine. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm sure that's been used in something before. In fact, I might have even used that. I don't know. This, this word facade is interesting because for the longest time you couldn't, you couldn't format it for Amazon. Back in like, Hey Jayrod. So, I guess it would have been in 2010 is when I started the Edward Lorne name. And back then I had, I used facade in Bay's End and I used it in Dastardly Bastard. And both times the first, with in Bay's End, I wasn't able to do it. Every time I uploaded it, Amazon's whatever algorithm software they have that converts it to their, their style. I think it was back, back then it was Moby. Anyways, it wouldn't let you do the little tail on the sea like it's supposed to be. And then for Dastardly, since it went through a publisher had a professional formatter. I think his name was Glenn. He worked for street light graphics or he owned the thing. I can't remember what it was, but he tried to format that word and couldn't get it to work either. And it wasn't until they went to, what was it, A-W-3 something that it was allowed. And it's just a little bit of fucking pop trivia for you there or word trivia. Just popping in and say hi, E, Chad and Hayley, kids start school in a couple of days. All right, Jayrod, I hope you have a good day if you're even here to hear this. Hello, Viking, Hayley, what's going on man? I never know how to put those symbols on stuff like that. So I usually like purposely misspell something. And then right click and oh, it's not offering it. Yeah, it's not, I don't think Google Docs is going to, but it's a hot key. You have to hold down like alt and type in a code or some shit. I just look it up when I actually go to publish, but we're not even gonna be formatting this, so. Yeah, in MS Word, that's right, yeah. If you misspell a word and then right click on it to look at the options, then it'll be there. Yeah, I did notice in this chapter we're definitely gonna have to attack then. There is a lot of then, I don't know if you call it a prefix, but there's especially up here with the, and I know they're all for me because that's one of my crutch words, but there's a lot of then he goes to, then he does this, then he does that. But that's for final draft bullshit. That's like that's true. Aim true, I like that. I liked wouldn't because of the whole country vernacular. And this is me, so what am I doing? I am, yeah. I got a comment on here, says about the cocaine. Yeah. I was thinking about this morning because I finished up this morning, I was writing on it, I finished up the chapter before and then started on this. And it just started occurring to me. The more I think about it, the more I think it's a bad idea that Shane holds on to this Coke. I mean, they're gonna be after him anyway. Yeah. But it makes no sense to hold on to it. What if he just like cut it open and on his way there just, you know. What if, okay, I'm with you, but what if he keeps it with him for a certain amount of time and then decides that it's not worth anything to keep and then trashes it? I feel like he would know that right off the bat. Right off the bat? Yeah. Mingo made it clear about drugs. So far he has no reason not to trust anyone, not to dive in headfirst with this and abide by all rules. And they're like in the families, you know, the family doesn't know that he doesn't still have this. And by the time they catch up to him. What if we leave it, what if we leave it as a twist? What if we make it seem like he's had this on him the whole time, but then like when they finally get close to him, maybe there's a scene where Travis like, where's the fucking drugs? And he's like, I got rid of them. Like this whole time we think that he has, I don't know. I don't know if there's something there or not. I mean, can we do that in first person? It feels like the reader would know everything. Well. Or it feels like they should know that. So if he says I don't have it, it's like, yeah, you do, dude. You totally have it. I wish you read Life After Dane because I do that with a first person narrative. And it's like the best ending I've ever, even when you read the reviews, people rarely talk about the book. They talk about the ending. But we, I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe that's, maybe it's fine. I just, there's something going on up here. And when you said that, I was like, what if there is another item that we make people think is the cocaine? We don't really, but we still have the telltale heart moments and all that stuff with, it's in the mummy thing. I don't know. Maybe it's like, we make people think that that is where he stashed it. I don't know. There's something going on up here. Let me think of it. Let me, I wanna get to work today, but there's, I'm fine with him getting rid of it. I'm also fine if you just wanna cut the whole telltale heart bits. But there's something, there's something marinating. Something boiling, coming through a simmer and I'm not quite on it. So I don't have an answer for you yet, but I do, there's something brewing. I'm gonna go ahead and maybe, maybe working, if I take my mind off of it, maybe it'll come to the surface. I'm just gonna go ahead and jump back in. Well, I know you wanna continue on. You don't wanna get stuck on this, but if, and if he's gonna throw it away, he needs to throw it away now, but there's any time. There's something smart going on. Something smart's going on in my head. You just gotta let it happen. Well, I'm listening. We could have him get close to the fair and be like, I need to get rid of this. Start to, and then someone's like, are you coming? And then he's like, back man and puts it back in his pillowcase. So he's kind of stuck with it because I just, if that, unless we do something like that, I don't, it doesn't make sense that he'd hold on to this. Now that we know who he is, you know, initially the idea, we didn't know this character. Right. No, I agree with you. I'm on the same page. But now that we know who he is, we know how much he is against this, it would not benefit him whatsoever. Like, could you see Shane like selling this? No, no, definitely not. I get what you're saying. He's not going to take it in it. So it's money. It's a matter of getting rid of it. Also, he could be conflicted with, where the fuck am I gonna leave this that some kid isn't gonna get into it, that some, you know, or adults, other adults are gonna find it. There is also that problem. Like, how is he going to get rid of that much cocaine and it just be gone? I mean, even in a dumpster, you know, he lives in a pretty impoverished area. There's gonna be dumpster divers. So we can literally make it that, like, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, he just never, it could be almost a comedy of errors. Like, every time he goes to get rid of this shit, somebody's there or whatever. Like, he could stop by the, on his way there, he could stop by the dollar store or whatever and try to go throw it in there. There could be, you know, somebody, like a homeless person, like laying up against the dumpsters, like, damn it, I can't do it here. I don't wanna throw it into a public garbage can, somebody's gonna find it. You know, I could just go rip it open and, you know, whatever, there's any number of things. Hey, Paul, Barry's it? I mean, it's any number of options, but the thing is I think Shane would be concerned with anyone finding it. So unless he has a chance, maybe that could be like a whole scene, like a little bit later. Like he's fighting with trying to find it and then he gets, let's say he gets by a body of water or something, he finally gets alone. He's like, this is the last part of me that I have to let go and he cuts it open and just lets it go out into the water or something. Like there could be- Even though that's not part of him at all, but I know what you're saying. Yeah, it's like the final memory of, you know, that kind of world. I know it's not a part, yes, exactly. But it's kind of that, I don't know if there should be that scene or not, I just pictured him, like if you were walking through the woods at night and then a field and coming upon this fair and you had a bag of flour and just, you know, ripping it open and just kind of like, I mean, you could leave an invisible trail, really no trail at all, because it, you know. Even if it's something like that, we could postpone that by saying, no, he's an animal lover, he loves animals. You know, they mourn the grave barn. It's like, I don't know what this is gonna do. That could be a running scene throughout the book if you wanted to, where every single time he goes to destroy this shit or get rid of it, something happens. I don't know. If you prefer the simplicity of him just getting rid of it, I'm fine with that, but we could use this. Well, no, I'm with you. It's like the pot of boiling water on the stove. I am with you and I feel like, yeah, this is one of those things where we do need more time. We need to, like, it will hit us eventually. Yeah. Here's what we could do with it. So yeah, I'm fine with that. Maybe for now we'll just have him getting ready to do that. I think the animal thing is pushing it, but. I'm just saying, there's ways we can do this. You know, have him getting ready to, you know, rip this open and then spread it around and then maybe he sees Cassie and she's like, you know, come on, let's go. And he's like, oh, you know, and so he doesn't want it on him. But now he really has, you know, he's kind of, I don't know. He's stuck with it. Yeah, and that way we could put it in the, I don't know, here's the problem with me is every little thing that we say right now, I'm gonna have a whole scene that pops into my head for that. So, you know, it's like every little thing, I'm gonna be like, okay, we could do this with that. We could do this, like all the options is kind of lay themselves out for me. So don't think, I'm like, we have to do this. It's more of there's ways we can do this. Are they good enough to keep that kind of thing? So anyways, yeah, we just need to move on. We need to get to work and maybe maybe, well, no, no, you know, on the document, it's just, I don't know that this is gonna be, we might need more information than we have right now. Like other things might happen. Like you said, we didn't know this character at first. You know, he's gonna take the Coke, of course he's gonna take it because it's gonna better the family. But also when he does finally take it, he's not going to hold on to it because Shane is not gonna be selling drugs. Ningo doesn't want drugs at the carnival, but he can't seem to get rid of this. But if we're going to go down that route, there's got to be some kind of scene where he tries to get rid of it before he even gets there. Maybe even twice, any number of things, I don't know. But, and that could be just as easy as one short chapter with him, you know, like I said, you're gonna go throw it in the dumpster, there's a homeless person, you know, it's sitting right there, or he gets a little farther down the road. I don't know, any number of things could happen. He could be about to, like you said, discard it and Sam could be like, hey, you coming or not? You know, that kind of thing. I don't know. Something along those lines. But you're absolutely right. I do not believe at all, like not even a modicum that he would hold onto this for no reason, because he's not gonna sell it. You know, he's not gonna try and blackmail the family or anything. This cocaine has no value to him whatsoever other than it not being in the house of Cassidy. Tim Meyer, don't know if you're still here, Tim, and hey, everybody else that I haven't said hello to. Oh, hey, Tim. Oh, chat just kind of like, last thing I saw was Paul saying, see ya, Hailey. Good morning, Tim. How doth thou do? Tim will tell you, Tim will tell you all about my control freakiness. Oh, yeah, well, I know that, but the thing with me is I just don't give a shit. Yeah, neither does Tim. Good morning, Zeely. Just as laid back. Yeah, it's just a matter of, and like Tim, what I was telling Chad with me, I don't know if it's the same with you, dude, but with me, it's all about, I edit myself more than anyone else, so it's really nice to have someone going over it as I'm writing. I said earlier that it was kind of like having an AI in my corner, you know, I write something and then they automatically come after me and, you know, and fix the issues, because I'll be going through here and I'm like, okay, this isn't very good, but I'm gonna go ahead and do that so I can move on to the next paragraph or scene or whatever. And then I'll come back and Chad will have fixed it exactly the way I might have fixed it or close enough, you know, for government work, that kind of thing. But with me, I go back and usually, when I say I rewrite, when I'm rewriting, I'm rewriting. Like I will scrap everything and start from the ground up. Every single chapter I will rewrite in whole. So I'm not attached to anything I write in a rough draft, period. I don't know if you're the same way and that's why you're chill with it or if it's just like, you know, Chad knows what he's doing, I don't know. But with me, it's just a matter of I know I'm gonna change what I'm gonna write anyway so I don't get attached to anything. You're writing too, Paul, a horror book? Good luck with that, man. I hope everything turns out well and you get it done. Just remember, you can't fix what doesn't exist. Yeah, I wish I could do that. It just seems like so much more work. But so for both you and Tim, when you guys do that second draft where you do heavy revisions, do you have, do you type the end and then go right away or do you have a lot of time in between? I do what, and I get this 100% from Stephen King. It's in non-writing. And I literally give it the six months he says. So I will write something and I'll go write, you know, three or four other books or whatever it is I'm doing next and I will come back to it. But it's usually anywhere between four and eight months. It's something, you know, it's six months give or take two because what I'll do is I will write other things until I completely forget about that other book and everything that I said, because I have a bad habit of reading what I thought I wrote or what I thought I meant instead of what I actually wrote. So I have to completely forget about it before I come back to it. And then when I come back to it, usually I'm like, oh yeah, all this is garbage. So I just start, I'll put it, I'll print it all out. I'll put it up on a, I have a little stand. I'll put it on the stand and I'll just start, I'll start reading is like, okay, I want to say this better. And then usually it takes me just that one more draft. So I'll do the rough. I will rewrite the rough the way I want it. And then I'll go into like first draft territory where I'm just fixing, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like, I crank it out and let it sit for a few months. That's exactly it. Yeah, that's what Tim says. I type the end and like, I give it a day and then I go back and I- I don't know how the fuck you do that, man. I don't know. I start my second draft, revise everything and then I'll go back again and then I will read it out loud. Okay. Which catches even more. Yeah, I mean- The thing is you edit as you go along. So you're really comfortable with what you've already written. With us, I don't want to talk for Tim, but for me it's just, and I'm even holding back on the word vomit because what I'll do, because I don't want to literally triple work you, I will, when I'm writing, normally what I do, and that's why I'm going so slow with this one, not just because I don't know what's going on next and what you want me to do next, that kind of thing. It's mostly I'm going so slow because I will literally write the same sentence three or four different ways. And then when I go back to the book, I will pick my favorite of those. But I literally just repeat myself constantly, just in different ways, different structures, that kind of thing. And then when I come back, I will cut it out. Yeah, pick the right thing. Lee says, yeah, my first drafts are hardly legible. As in an outsider wouldn't understand what the fuck is going on. The second draft is certainly cleaner. Yeah, I'm not going to correct you on semantics, but it's like rough draft. The first draft should be the first one that you start editing, like once you're happy with it. And then second draft is more of a, the first one's like continuity errors and things that might pose a problem. Second draft, at least for me, when I'm working with like traditional publishers, that's usually, you know, you call the initial one that's garbage, the rough. And then the first draft only is the first draft when you start to edit and you're comfortable with everything. And that's when the content editing comes in where you're trying to figure out, if everything fits, and then you have to do a second draft to fix those issues. And then, you know, and then there's that huge joke with like, you know, final doc, dot doc, and then final, final, dot doc, and then like actual final, dot doc, and then the real final, you know, that kind of thing. There's that joke that just keeps on running and running and running as you're going through and finding little minuscule errors and whatnot. But yeah, my roughs are always rough. I mean, it's literally why it's called a rough draft is because you're just supposed to get, you're telling yourself the story. If you're a pancer that, see, I don't believe that people who plot actually write rough drafts. They write a first draft with the rough draft, you know, you're writing that because you don't even know what the fuck is going on. I actually didn't realize the first was technically rough. Well, it all depends. If you plot 100%, it can be your first draft. You have no rough draft. But if you have a rough draft, that rough draft should literally, no one should see that shit. You're telling yourself the story. You're getting it out. You have no idea what you're going to be doing. And you don't get stuck on things like plot holes or whatever. You just pound it out and then you come back and fix it later. The thing that I've said over and over again, I said it on this stream too, you can't fix what doesn't exist. So as long as you have, as long as you have the, I guess the foundation and the frame, you can start adding stuff to it or even taking away. Do either of you use beta readers? I know Chad does. I don't use them anymore. Where in your process do you bring them in? After a first draft, that's when I need help with continuity and content and whatnot. Yeah, each book is also a different experience. You're right, Tim. Yeah, I use about, I try to use between four to six beta readers and I give them the cleanest possible manuscript that I possibly can. So that they are only finding stuff that I wasn't aware of. Yeah. You got a line here that is written as though it's a, like he's reflecting on something that was already told, but I don't recall ever seeing this before. It's the things we say and do to convince ourselves we're not bad people. It's just, is that just a thought? Yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah, I don't even remember writing that. I don't remember writing any of this. That's why I'm going back and reading, reading what I wrote last time. So for those who are curious, we're at 32,500 something. Jesus Christ. And I'd say at the very least, we're halfway, but if not halfway close, you know, I mean, we're trying to hit 65, 70, right? Right, yeah. Oh, we're going to hit that, I promise you, because we ain't even got like the carnival moving yet. Yeah, this is where the cocaine turns into a subplot. Yeah. For a while. Ahem. Thanks, Viking. Yes, thank you, Viking. I'm going to go ahead and add that back. My wife was just in here, she said hi. Oh, hello. Cooper, what's the matter, baby? No, come here, Cooper. What's up, Lee? Yes, my dog's name is Cooper. Special agent, Cooper. Oh, that's cool, man. Yeah, I named him after both, I'm a huge Alice Cooper fan and a huge Twin Peaks fan and my wife said something about the dog looking like he's wearing makeup. And so we came up with the name Cooper and then I thought we'll name him Special Agent Cooper. So it's kind of a double, double meaning. All right, I've already been in the seat an hour so I'm going to go ahead and take my break. Give me 15 minutes this time because I'm going to hit the restroom, too. You must not know about me, you must not know about me. I just thought of something, man. Yeah. I don't want to go back and change it. We already had that costume jewelry and I like that idea but if we hadn't had that idea, we could have had his mom cremated and they sold her urn and just left her ashes there in a plastic baggie. Oh, Jesus Christ. Morning, solvents. It's a damn good idea though, but oh, Jesus. These people ain't horrible enough already. Oh, I'm going to leave that one up to you. I like it, but yeah, it's cool. That's rough. That's a rough one. We could have, we could go in there. You know how we talk about the golden tooth? Mm-hmm. We could mention that there used to be an urn, like so-and-so's ma or grandma or something like that, but they, and so now on the mantle there, some mantle, a windowsill or something like that. Yeah. It's just this bag of ashes that's been sitting there since they sold the urn. Christ. I mean, yeah, yeah. Urns are not cheap. No, they're not. I mean, this is 89, but yeah. I mean, you can get some cheap ones, but. But would, I mean, unless she had like, I mean, that could be a whole, not subplot, but that could be a whole reasoning in and of itself why they took them in. Maybe she had life insurance or something. I mean, how did she, who paid for it? It could have been the grandma's. So it was handed down to the mom and then a mom or dad died and then they got this urn. They're like, well, sell the urn. You know, like it doesn't mean anything to them, but it did to who owned it before. Right. Definitely an option. Definitely an option. I hate these fucking people. Mm-hmm. Are you frozen, dude? Or is that me? You're frozen on my screen. I don't know if you can hear me. Am I back? Yeah. I'm back. You're back, but pixelated. I could hear you the whole time, but hang on. No, you look better. No, you look better. Yeah. Hang on, let me turn off. That's what it is. It must have reverted the Wi-Fi there for a second. It's back on land now. Mobile. All right. Time for me to go on break when I get back. We can either continue working or we can chat for a bit, whichever one. I got one, two, three, almost four pages done. That's pretty much been my average since we started. Okay. So anyways, I'll be back about 10 minutes. Okay. Turned my camera off while I eat lunch, everybody. Welcome to my world of fools, pink champagne, new swimming pools. I'm here, eating lunch. I figured. All right, Viking. You're probably already gone, but have a good one. Let's see what Mr. Lutzki has done today. Ugly doggly, 12 followers. I need 38 more followers on the Twitch. All right. Oh, good, very, no, because I got to get up in the morning, but I'll definitely be reading it after, I'll start it after our stream and morning solvents. And then I'll spend all day Wednesday up until the stream reading it. What are you reading? Holly. Holly comes out tomorrow. Oh, okay, cool. So I definitely want to stay up reading it, but no, I'll start reading it tomorrow after this in between streams and then all day Wednesday. And I'll probably have it done by Thursday. We'll see. I don't know. It's your favorite. Yeah, I saw you said that on Discord. So I'm looking forward to it. I'm just looking forward to a new King book, period. Really. So the fairy tale was great, but I mean, it's like every other book has been kind of stinking lately. Well, no, that's, that's wrong. Cause I loved, let's see here. Yeah, everything after the Bazaar of Badger, you got Sleeping Beauties, which was bust, the outside of the Institute, if it bleeds were all good, but then Billy Summers was bust and then fairy tale was good. So I'm just hoping that Holly, I'm sure I'm going to like it. As long as Holly, the character is the same, I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it. So I'm also listening to a bunch of different audio books on Scribd for Halloween reviews. You got 31 days of Halloween coming up. I already got two videos done, two movie reviews. Gonna have a new releases week, horror movie week, a classics week where I'll be doing all these. I've already shown these off, but a woman in white, Wilkie Collins, Mysteries of Udolfo by Anne Radcliffe. Yeah. And then The Castle of Autronto by Horace Walpole, which I had never read, but I had quoted in one of my books, which is, I find that hilarious. And then The Monk by Matthew Lewis. Oh yeah, I do it every year. I usually start about mid September, but this time I'm hoping to have all the videos done before October 1st, done and uploaded. So that's another reason why I haven't been posting any other content. That and I've been busy, but I'm saving all of it for Halloween. I also have a review of The Weight of Blood by Tiffany Something. It's the remake, the reboot, reimagining of Cary by Stephen King, which is weird. I have never read a reboot of a book when the author has still been alive. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, so, but it changes the entire aspect instead of Cary being nerdy, white girl, this version of Cary, which is a completely different name, is a mixed girl who passes for white. And one day, this is the very beginning of the book, one day, she's never been out in the rain before because her father's controlling all that. Her father's white, mother was black. And her hair gets wet and it gets all frizzy. And everyone realizes that, you know, she's not 100% white and then things go downhill from there. Yeah, Tiffany D. Jackson, that's it. That'll be coming and then I got a T. King Fisher book, a bunch of other stuff, a lot of stuff, actually. I'm trying to read only the, I'm trying to do, well, like I said, it got new release week, so Weight of Blood will be that, will be the first one. So I got new horror release week, horror movie week, classic horror, classics week, just like I did last year. And then the fourth and final week is gonna be like a history of horror kind of deal. It's gonna be more discussion video thing, probably with some other reviews mixed in. It depends on what all I get done, but yeah. So the only two reviews you're getting this month are Broad Street Bastard by some dude and then Ahali. And no, I have not finished it yet, but it will be finished this week. So I'm like 20 pages from the end, it got nothing to do with the book being bad once again. It's literally just me not feeling like reading. And I'm hoping the King gets me back into that place, but usually I'll read a Stephen King book and then I'll be like, eh, let's try this other person. Then I go read it and it's not Stephen King and everything sucks for a couple of months because it's not Stephen King. I think I'm like 180 pages in the Duma King maybe. Ah, cool. You've read a bunch of Teak King Fisher. I've never read anything by her, I think. Ursula Vernon is her real name, huh, interesting. Yeah, what's on my list is What Moves the Dead, which is I think her most recent book. So that's the one that I have. I'm doing the audio book on a script. Got some other things. And then in November I have to review S.A. Cosby's new book, All the Sinners Bleed. That's pretty much it for the year, probably the rest of the content's gonna be whatever I feel like doing in between streams. And then once me and Chad wrap this up, I'm gonna be working with Derek on the same thing and then I'm gonna be working with Viking on Screenplay Live, all that stuff. Anyhow, got a full plate ahead of me. It's just gonna be weird to get done with this book and it pretty much be done, except for editing and all that stuff. Gonna be really, really weird. You mean because you're like showing up for work? Well, it's just, no, it's just, you know, as much editing as you've done already, I mean it's just gonna be light work there on the back end unless we decide to change like whole sections or something. Right. And I'm just not used to that because I usually take longer on the back end than I do writing the rough draft. No, Thorn Hedge just came out and a house with good bones before that for King Cusher. All right. Well, all I know is that it was in the new release section. What moves the dead was in the new release section for Scribb, so I don't know how long it's been out, but that's what I was going off. Thorn Hedge, good gravy. So she writes into horror and fantasy and wow, she's got a grip of books. I knew she had a lot. What moves the dead came out last year? Yeah, it'll be in their new release section. They still have Billy Summers in the new release section. So, and as of tomorrow, there will be two books out after that one. We're also getting a new collection. Okay, something like, if you guys like the darker, whatever, I can't remember what it's called, but it's something, hang on. We'll probably get that next year in September, unless he has a novel for September and then we'll get it early. Yeah, you like it darker. Yeah, new collection out in 2024. You like it darker. So we got, hang on here, full dark, no stars. Just after sunset, full dark, no stars and you like it darker. It's gonna be interesting. It's like a little trilogy of stories and novellas and whatnot. It'd be great if somebody found a lost, ketchup, camel or collection. Yeah, it'd be interesting. I'd read the mess out of it. I haven't even read all of his stuff yet. I read the lost, Girl Next Door, of course, the entire offspring series, including the woman and all that. I haven't read the one with the blue book with the dog on the cover, whatever that one's called. It's the one he wrote with Lucky McGee, I think. Yeah, something, secrets or something? Yeah, it's something like that. It's got a dog on it, that's all I remember. Secret life of souls. Secret life of souls. And there's a couple other ones, like She Wakes, I have no interest in that whatsoever because he doesn't even like it or he didn't even like it. So there's only foray into the supernatural. As much as I love Ketchum, because he's one of my, him, King and Lansdale are my top three. I haven't read much. I've read Red. I've not read that one. I have seen the movie, though. Brian Cox's Amazing. Yeah, it's a good movie. And I read, Dallas is actually in that movie too. He plays a bartender, of course. And I read Secret Life of Souls. I've read the first, is it off season or off spring? Off season? I think off season is the first one and then off spring is the second one. I've read off season and I will not read Girl Next Door just because I'm too scared to because I know how he is with words, man. Oh, it's destructive. It's definitely destructive. I've read it twice and I kind of, I don't regret reading it the second time, but I mean, it was just as bad, not bad, but it was just as disturbing the second time I read it. And I read Grille in the Room and Peaceable Kingdom. Yeah, I haven't read any of his short story collections. He's actually, my three favorite short stories are Tell Tail Heart in the Hills of Cities and The Box by Jack Ketchum. Love The Box. I knew The Box was coming, I knew that one. It was adapted into an anthology, what was it called, XX? Yeah, I saw that, yeah. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. If you wanna see a weird, not in an adaptation, but something that might remind you of The Box that has that same, like very uncomfortable feeling, watch Killing of a Sacred Deer. Oh. That's got a lot of the same, like dude, like dude's not eating, dude's not walking, and then his sister's not. Oh, I know, I'm well aware of that movie. It is my oldest, one of their favorite movies of all time. And they watched it when they were like, what, 14 or 15, something like that? I can't remember, but it became their fit. They watched it constantly. I could not get through it. Really? I don't know what it was, man. It was, there was something about it. It of course has a very oppressive atmosphere, and the visuals are absolutely striking, but I think I have the same problem with it as I do Kubrick's The Shining. It's just, I don't know, it's just, maybe I do need to finish it, but it just lacked any, it was very clinical and surgical, like I say about The Shining, and it kind of like lacks heart, at least what I saw of it. I think I saw like the first half of it. I don't dislike it. It's just, I don't feel the need to continue watching it any time it's on. I think that maybe you didn't realize that it's a very quirky movie. Like the acting is very, it's like David Lynch, like the acting is purposely like quirky. And- Same with Wes Anderson. It makes it kind of, I mean, it's not a comedy by any means. It makes, but because of that, it makes it kind of dark in like, you don't know what is going on with this kid. What is going on with this man? And it makes it kind of, but yeah, as soon as I got done with it, it was one of those movies where I was like, I mean, I loved it. It was the best movie I saw that year. And, but at the same time, I was like, man, I kind of wish I wouldn't have watched that. Because it really messed me up. The ending is very dark. Yeah, in my oldest, they love dark shit. The darker, ending the better. Joy Ride is good, but it's probably, it's probably my least favorite of Ketchum's stuff. And that's, and of what I've read, other than She Wakes, which I have absolutely, I don't know, there's no draw or pull to actually finish that book for me, especially no one he didn't like it. He wrote it on spec, if I remember correctly. He was writing it for someone. I can't remember the story behind it, but anyways, Joy Ride, I did enjoy, but I mean, I haven't hated anything Ketchum's done, but that was probably my least favorite of the ones that I did read. You probably won't like Secret Life of Souls. I mean, it's okay. It's probably my least favorite. I don't even think I own that one. And yeah, I may not. My favorite book in the off-season trilogy, whatever you want to call it, The Cannibal Trilogy, is The Woman, actually. I really, really enjoyed that one. The movie too, even though the production quality isn't amazing for that one. It was like much better. The first two movies were much better. She Wakes is a Little Week, yeah. The Supernatural doesn't work for kids. He didn't even, from what I understand, rumor, legend, myth as it, that he didn't even want to do the book, but he was paid to write something supernatural. And that's what he did. I can't remember if I heard that from him, or if it was an interview, or what. I can't remember, but I do recall very specifically, him saying that he didn't even want to write the book, but he got paid for it. So I don't know if it was Leisure that kind of talked him into it, or what, Don D'Aurea, whatever the fuck that dude's name is. I don't know if it was a matter of that, or what, but his heart was not in it, so. Yeah, he was not a big fan of supernatural stuff at all. Which is funny, I'm actually changing the subject here. It's funny that, you know, top three favorite stories is In The Hills, The Cities, because that doesn't get any more fantastical. Like, that story is just so out there, wild, wacky. It's, I love the story. It's my number two. No, actually, it's my number one. And then it would be Under the Blackwater by Mariana Enriquez would be number two, and then The John by Stephen King would be number three. For me, it has everything to do with, I have never read a story like this before. Exactly, that's exactly how I do it. Yeah, it's not another ghost running up and down stairs, it's like people creating other people using people. Yeah, it's fucking madness, man, I love it. And that's one of the things that I believe is Barker's strength is when he can be wild and not have to explain anything. And that's why I think he's a better short story author than he is a novelist. Yeah, because when he gets to the novels, he seems like he over explains every little fucking detail, even if it's a wild explanation. He just over explains and it all feels like padding from him, I don't know why, but it does. And I've tried numerous times, five times at this point to try and read through his entire catalog and I keep getting stuck on Weave World. Holy original, never read anything like it other than it being a portal fantasy. It just, it's very much, oddly enough, it's very much like Stephen King's fairy tale, where it's just the world that you travel to isn't completely different from your own kind of deal. They still have cars and shit and all that. I just, I get lost in it and not in a good way. It's like I'm stumbling around here and his very in-depth descriptions of every little thing because he writes about things people have never seen before. So he has a strength for that, but when you're trying to get through a six, 700 page novel and you're getting bogged down in the description that it's never a good thing in my opinion. But it's just too flowery. When Books of Blood came out that just, I remember it just blew everything up. I mean, he blew everything away as far as like short stories and just even novels. It's like, man, what is, he just exploded. But it's the same reason why King and Straub and even Anne Rice to some extent were so popular is because they made literary fiction commercial. They made it, they made literary fiction fun to read. And one of the reasons that is is because they put the horror stuff in there. They put the wild wacky, the not really not, Anne Rice, not so much, but she was very flowery with her prose. And before that crew, I mean, the best thing we had was like, we had Poe, we had Lovecraft, that kind of thing. Very dense stuff. Yeah. And they found a way of writing that really deep literature and making it accessible to everyone. So, Straub, Straub, not so much. Straub was still a little more vague and obtuse and too dense for some people, but I would say definitely King and Barker and Rice all came out and they were like, hey, let me show you how it's done. You know, I'm gonna make this wordy shit fun as hell to read. I've never read Straub. Straub, I think you'd probably hate him. It's just, he's so, it's just brick after brick after brick of text. And his humor is not funny whatsoever. He has very awkward sex just like every other dude from that era. And even some of the women, I mean, and Rice writes terrible sex scenes in my opinion, but people love them. So, in fact, she's who I mimicked when I started doing my erotica. And it was very popular, you know, so quite a few of those books. But yeah, I don't know, it's just... And that's one of the things, you know, I'm also writing in all these different genres and everything and just taking chances and seeing what people like, what people don't like. It all really comes down to whether or not people like your writing. If people like your writing, they will follow you any fucking way. They'll read anything and they'll enjoy it no matter if they like it or not. It's kind of like how I look at Salem's Lot. I hate vampires, but I love Salem's Lot. I hate vampires, but I love all the vampire stuff in the Dark Tower series. And it's no different from any other vampires really. It's just common as bloodsuckers. Yes, they're monsters and they're not sexual creatures like maybe Anne Rice or Twilight or whatever. And I definitely prefer my vampires as monsters instead of sexy. But I think the older I get, the more I realize, if I'm a fan of a writer, I probably am not going to hate their stuff. And with King, the only time I don't like King is when he gets stuck on some of his old mentality stuff. Like he writes modern-day kids terribly. He finally stopped doing sex scenes, thank fuck. I don't know, I blocked out a lot of Billy Summers. I think he ends up having sex with the girl he rescues anyways. But I don't think it's a graphic, like not graphic, but I don't think it's like it used to be. Dean Coons was his stuff. It's funny because Dean Coons didn't want to put sex in any of his books. But he wrote some erotica with his wife and then he wrote some erotica by himself. And finally he dumped all that because he wasn't making enough money and he started writing the sci-fi stuff that he's known for now. And he had like 10 different pin names. And nowadays, well, he's been republishing those under the Dean Coons name since the 90s, but it's just he, every time he would write something and it didn't have sex in it, he'd take it to Random House, Valentine, whichever subsidiary it was. And they would be like, it needs sex. And so he'd throw in the most awkward sex scenes possible. And they were like kiddie, like kiddie graphic, like a child's idea of what sex is or someone who's only ever watched porn. Like, that's the only, like the worst one, the worst line, and I've mentioned this all the time is the ribbons of semen. He's spurted ribbons of semen into her velvet, no ropes, spurted ropes of semen into her velvet interior. I'm like, that's the worst line I've ever read in fiction. It just, it stuck. And it's in my favorite Dean Coons book. It's in my favorite one. I don't care about sex scenes. They could be the worst or the best. I just gloss over them, it doesn't... Yeah, I don't bother with them. I tend to skip them. I have never read anything that physically aroused me. So I don't get that aspect of things. I know there are people who do, and of course, nothing wrong with it, no shame on them, but I've never read anything. I'm more of a visual person. Sex scenes suck. And then I hopped on Twitter for a hot second the other day and the very first thing I saw was some, I don't know if it was Hailey Piper or someone saying, if your book doesn't have sex scenes, add it. It's just as important as violence. And what else did they say? And the only thing better is sex after violence. So I'm like, okay, I'm really out of touch with what people want these days because I thought it was a good thing we were moving away from like graphic sex scenes and movies and books and whatnot. But I guess not. I can't think of any of my books that would be better. I can't imagine writing up all strings of flies and including sex or just wallflower. I would fucking hope not. Wallflower, if I had written wallflower, there definitely would have been some sucking dick for heroin kind of thing. There would have been something. And I guess that's kind of what I'm getting at when I say I'm more vulgar than you. It's not a matter of that you're a prude or anything, but I always have something like some kind of deviant sexuality, something that is completely out of place in the story. I think one of my, and this isn't on the deviant side, but one of my favorite sex scenes that I've ever written is between the two men in The Bedding of Boys, Walter and his lover, when Gina goes into and stabs the dude in the side of the head and he bites it, they're in the 69 position. One of the guys is eating the other guy's ass. I love that scene for one reason because the gay couple, those two are the, it's the only positive sexual relationship in the entire book. Nev's parents are kind of on the sketchy side with you don't know if, because there's a thing where he hears them through the wall and he hears his father say like take it bitch or something like that or whatever. And all that's fine if that's what you're into. I'm not saying that's deviant, but you're kind of on the fence because it is after a fight. So it's make up sex. And then you have the deviancy of Regina being a pedophile. And then you have every single sexual relationship in that book is kind of rocky and whatnot. The only one that they're minding their own fucking business in their house, not bothering anybody. And she ends up killing both of them. Sorry for spoilers, but I mean, if you haven't read the book by now, go get it. But anyways, and I wanted that scene. I wanted that to be the only positive, the only positive, not really love story or sex scene, but it's like you see these two people minding their own fucking business and they end up getting killed. And I was so worried I was gonna get called out for the kill your gaze trope, but at the same time, I killed everybody in my stories. So it's not like, I even managed to do, well, I don't wanna tell you this one because you haven't read it yet, but I managed to do one where the main character dies. And it's in the first person. And I managed to do it to where is eating cookies a gay expression? Is it? I don't know, we can always check. It's a meme, but me when I found out eating cookies were not a good thing to eat for when I, what the hell? I don't know, but if you type it in eating cookies, you get a bunch of cookie monster memes. Mukbang. Yeah, eating cookies. No, it's not, well, I mean, unless you're a woman eating cookies because eating cookies is slaying the means to perform oral sex on a woman. So I don't think it's like I wanna ride my bicycle I wanna ride my bicycle, like from Queen. I don't think that's what that is at all. No, before it was sex before violence. No, they are guys and probably not, then probably not. But I mean, then again, people are constantly coming up with new ways of saying things. You're welcome. All right, that's getting a little creepy. We both just like grunted side at the same time, Chad. So I think it's time to call. While talking about sex. Exactly, exactly. So that's enough ASMR, dude love for y'all. I am going to go, I gotta get off my ass for a while and we're supposed to be done by noon every day anyways. Just let you know tomorrow, as always, Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, we'll be here at nine o'clock those days. I'm also gonna be streaming on Twitch at five PM every single day, maybe a little bit earlier. But if I go earlier, then I will put it up on the Discord. I think that's everything you guys need to know, Chad. You got anything you wanna say, brother? No. No, okay. Great streaming. Thank you, Solvents, appreciate it. In the, hang on, hang on, hang on, we might have a word. In the ethnic gay world, cookies is a word that could be used instead of ass. Well, there you have it. Google, what the hell? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Okay, you suspected, okay, well, hey, whatever. You learn something new every day, that's what we're here for. But yeah, I'll see you guys later. Until next time, all hail the chair.