 I had to fire the guy that mows my lawn. Okay, go ahead. He just couldn't cut it. Well, you don't have a lawn, so... I know! Back to our stupid right to do this, of course. I'm Rick. I knew it was a joke. Right after that. Hey, you're false and ain't just a girl. I'm just a rock. I'm just a rock. I'm just a rock. I'm just a rock. I'm just a rock. I'm just a rock. I'm just a rock. I was particularly boisterous today. Boisterous. You know what's a word that isn't used as often as it ought to be used? Hmm. Hoist. Hmm. Like the hoist something. It's a great word. Hoist. Hoist. Yeah, would you hoist that? It's not as good as moist. No, but if you were... There's some words to put them all together. Yeah, if you were like, hoist is a sailor word. I feel like you have to hoist something when you're on a boat. And if it's raining and you got moist, while you were wearing a loincloth and had to put ointment on your groin, you would be a moist hoister wearing the loincloth with ointment on your groin. Gross. Today we're doing a movie review. And it's our first of Classic Month. Welcome to Classic Month. Hey, welcome to Classic Month. Also, a little caveat. This is actually Patron's January Hindi winner of their movie poll. So every month on Patreon, regardless of the tier, you get to be part of a process of narrowing down movies, a Hindi one and a regional one in any region. And then the poll to decide what we watch, you get one a month, one from regional, one from Hindi. This was their Hindi one for January. And I know it's 1983. Our cutoff was 1980. So I kind of just grouped it in. And I was like, it's three years almost. So it's technically not the classics. All the other ones that were reacted are mostly like 60s and 50s. But I think this still could qualify. I think what people talk about in the Zoom, they've put it in the classics. Sure. So just to let you know, this is Classic Month. We are only watching unless something new drops that we have to go, we have to watch. This is all going to be old movies for the month of February. And if you've said it a hundred times, we're saying it a hundred and one times. It doesn't mean that February is the only month we're going to watch classic films. At all. But we were watching for a region just so you know. This time we watched Masoom, the 1984 film, Hindi film, starring who? Mr. Dinshaw. Who's that? It's the guy we saw in the Debra movie. Yeah, yeah. I think that's his claim to fame. Yeah, that's it. He did this in the Debra film. And we said it. We called it. We were like, that guy looks like he needs some training first of all. And probably with training would do, you know, get movies and films like Duhum 3. And it's also starring, say these other names. Also starring Shibana Azmi and Jhuko Hanaraj. Right? Yeah. And Umela Matunger. Who we saw in Satya and I think something else. I could be wrong. But yeah, we saw it in Satya and I believe we did. Is that where we saw her before? Yeah, we saw in Satya. Regardless, 1983. So it's obviously going to be a spoiler review. I'm assuming every classic we do is going to be a spoiler review because if you haven't seen it, that's on you. Yeah. Sorry. So Rick. Oh, sorry. It's directed by Shakar Kapoor. Yeah. Yeah. Rick. Okay. So I've got a paragraph. Okay. A simple but strong story with universal appeal about family, love, right and wrong, as well as the damage we do when we make mistakes and the importance of taking responsibility in order to try and redeem those mistakes. Yeah. Abley carried by two solid performances of our leading lady and man, as well as an adorable little boy who I thought was a child-rithic roshan. I did too, Miss Hume. For all of its flaws, it's still a very good film worthy of being remembered for posterity and included in the echelons of India's cinematic history. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And this director, this was his directorial debut. Did not know that. Not bad. So I actually saw that. Yeah. I've been more forgivable. He said this is his first film. He never went to film school. He just did everything on instinct. Good grief. I didn't know that. Yeah. Than any of the mistakes that I saw. Yeah. Are even more forgiving. There are some mistakes. And it's also, with Classic Month, it's going to be very difficult because it's very difficult to judge on the technical aspect a bunch of old films Yeah. To the current standards. Even, and I'm glad we're talking about this at the outset of Classic Month and this review, because we've got two things that we have to deal with. The one is you can't judge it by today's standards, number one. And you also can't judge Indian films of the past to Hollywood films of the same timeframe. Oh, yeah. It's more 50, 60s Hollywood than 80s Hollywood. Right. Because India evolved behind cinematically of Hollywood. Even the inception of their cinematic industries. We've spent a lot of movies. Yeah. Exactly. So I don't know when it was. I should look in the Bollywood book or maybe somebody knows when India not only caught up, but is at the point of doing some stuff where we've noticed, wow, you're way ahead of Hollywood because it obviously happened before Gully Boy and Pink and all those films that we had seen that were our first introduction. But it's really important because I always do that. I'll watch a movie like this and I'll look at what was going on at the same time here. And this looks 25 years older than everything that was happening here. Yeah. Not a fair comparison. I believe all the classic films need to be compared with what's going on in the evolution of Indian cinema. For sure. Yeah. Absolutely. I did, I actually really enjoyed this film. It's an incredibly sad story. Oh man. We'll talk about that. Incredibly sad, but I thought that's one of my favorite parts about it is the fact that that's a touchy subject matter that you don't often see anywhere in the film. It's like the fact that they were married and they were very happily married. Very happily married. I think he might have even forgotten that he had done this. Right. It's one of those things. I think that he had repressed it and his, I'm not saying anything that he'd, I'm not excusing what he did at all. No. But I think he even forgot that he had done it. And then it brought up, but then, because you've seen stories like you know, somebody will at that time cheat on a husband and wife or I thought it was actually pre-marriage. Right. I thought this was from a relationship before they got married. It's better for the story. It's worse for her. But it's better for the story that it's something that happened while they were getting married. Absolutely. Yeah. Because it's incredibly difficult. And I loved, I love seeing young Nasser in Shaw. He's always been just really good, really captured. He's always, I think, cared about the craft and believability. Yep. Because he was never not believable in this. And then she did a phenomenal job as well, even though I had issues with some of the stuff she did. As far as the character or the actress? Yeah. Not. Okay. We'll get into it. She did a phenomenal job. And I would have actually been okay with her doing anything. Like her response to it, like if she left him, I thought she would have been justified. Right. If she just wanted to be upset with him forever, she wanted to, you know, I would have been okay with anything. But taking it out on the child, I get it. I get it. I do. And every single time you see that child that you see your husband and another woman, like together, I totally understand that. But also it's not the child's fault. So like, I totally understand. I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset. I'm not saying you shouldn't like, you could have left him and I'd be like good on you. I totally understand. It's just, you know, I think me, my wife, I wash it with her and she totally agreed. She's like, look, I get it. I get where you're going through and you're justified. Right. He didn't do that. Right. It's not the child's fault. Yeah. So like when she just let him like, like not take care of him when he was hurt or whenever she just left the room. Yeah. Take it out on him, like the husband. He was John Snow in the House of Stark. Yeah. At that point. Yeah. And it is. It's on the one hand, you absolutely understand the vantage point of the wife looking at this constant reminder of her husband's infidelity. Absolutely. Yet that doesn't give any justification to treat the husband as bystander as if they're the guilty party. But I thought they did a really good job. Because this is, once again, a very touchy subject for a film. Yeah. And it's tough from the husband's perspective. Because obviously, he just kind of has to take it. He just, you messed up, bro. Like, and you have no reason to be like, you shouldn't be mad about this. Right. You shouldn't like, like there was one point that which I thought was really good where he was like, what should I do? Should I kill myself? Which hits frustration even though I don't think that was justified. Because you can't really justify what you did. Right. At all. Right. You were at the wrong. Exactly. And you broke your oath to your wife. To your wife. Wrong. And so like, I get it, but I thought it was beautifully written the way. You too. The whole interaction between the two. Yeah. And I'm glad at the end, they didn't kind of just kiss and make up. It was more of a, I accept this child. It was still a, it was a, I'm going to do she, she did the right thing. And the hard thing. Yeah. Let him know. He's okay with me. We're not okay. We're not okay. This is going to take time. Yeah. It's going to be a struggle. Yeah. But I'm willing to fight through this. And I did. For him. Yeah. For him. So I'm glad she, she finally got there with the child even though I was like, I just, I wish she wouldn't have pushed him away as much. Right. I mean, maybe not. Obviously I'm not saying treat him like he's your child right now. I get that. Yeah. Like treat him as a kid. That was my, that was my only issue with the way it was written. My wife actually thought he would. She was like, my, my issue with this is I feel like she's being made the villain. And I didn't feel that way a lot of the time. But I don't know. Maybe some other people felt that way. As my wife did. That she thought that they were kind of making her more of the villain. No, you know, I thought if there was somebody that you could point to as an antagonist, what's really nice about the writing and the way it was written is that she's being made the villain. And I didn't feel that way a lot of times. But I don't know. What's nice about the writing and the way the film is done is the antagonist is adultery. Yeah. There's no human in the story that's really the bad guy. Yeah. It's, it's, it's the, the trapping and the destructive nature of being unfaithful to somebody. And it reminded me similarly. I don't want, there's a, there's a film that has a similar topic matter without spoiling anything. If you haven't seen Fences with Denzel Washington and Viola Davis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a comparable story about a family and a man and Viola Davis Oscar. Viola Davis won an Oscar. It was one of those that when you saw the film was I give her her Oscar. Yeah, just give her. But I loved, one of my favorite scenes both from the writing and the execution because of the capacity of the actors was his confession. I actually started getting low level anxiety for her knowing what he's about to tell her and her whole world is about to come crashing down and she did nothing to deserve it. Yeah. Those moments for me are very palpable. They were such a happy couple. Yes. They were like, you're like this is such a beautiful family. Yes. And he as well, it wasn't, he liked the song we hear being sung over him that we reacted to. Yeah. I loved that he was written in a serenity and portrayed him as a more complex Shakespearean character than just a stereotypical like Dick who's like, well I made a mistake, just forgive me. Yeah. He was like, I can't believe I did this. The only thing we wanted, a little boy together, I have and I wish I could celebrate that blessing of having the son, but this is not the way it was supposed to happen and he takes full responsibility for her. Yeah. What do I do? Did you also notice they flipped the song later in the film? Yeah. With a female voice for her same song, but she's singing the very same song as she's coming around to the acceptance of this little boy's not at fault. Yeah. This little guy doesn't have a mommy. Yeah. Maybe somehow in some providential way there's a redeeming aspect of the fact that maybe God somehow knew that I could be the mommy for this little boy and work something to take a common phrase, beauty for ashes, to take something out of this tragedy and make something redemptive out of it, which is what it does. And that's why I think ultimately for all its technical flaws and other things, pacing, it's a worthy, really good kick off to it. Absolutely. And the stuff you can you gripe on like right at the beginning, some of the Foley work was just terrible. Something dubbing? I wrote that in here. It looked like it was like just like didn't even try. No. Yeah. I put that in here as forgivable technical things like choppiness of edits and sound and the dub sound in bad Foley. Yeah. And as lovely as the main theme was for the broken hearted little kid in the situation, if that theme started up another time, I was going to like that it was a very melancholic, beautiful refrained. Yeah. But I could point was like here it comes. Okay. I don't need to hear that again. But again, I felt like everything in this from the director was all with an intentionality to try and tell the story the best the best way they could. Yeah. And being a first-time director, having no film school or anything like that, I think he did a stupid job. Great job for a new director. But like because a lot of the technical stuff you learn. Yeah. You learn on the job. You learn. You learn as you do more films. And I thought as just the story was fantastic. Yeah. One that you don't often see. I thought all the actors I had a few. Yeah. Some of the supporting smaller people were not not the best. No. The little boy who I thought was Rithik for I'd actually look it up. I did too. Is that Rithik Roshan? Those eyes man. Yeah. They look very similar to our children. Yeah. But he did a really good job. And obviously the serenity and the woman did really well. Yeah. She was both beautiful on screen presidents and really beautiful working with the serenity and just holding it. And her character was really very progressive in terms of the relationship that they had. This was an absolute home of what felt like equal between them. This wasn't some patriarchal overloading of her and demanding things. This was living in mutual admiration and respect for each other and trying to make things work. And I also liked the way they incorporated their kids and the innocence of their eyes. And I think that was a big contributor for her character really realizing wow it's not his fault. Yeah. He's a little kid and I need to see him more the way my little girls do. Especially the book when he's crossing. That was sad. All of his drawings of himself in the family and he just crosses the mountain. Oh yeah. There was a lot of obviously questionable stuff in terms of just these characters that I was like one just tell him you're his dad. That's weird. Like why can't you tell him that. I think because he didn't want the little girls to know yet and he knew he would tell his daughters. Very strange. And then just sending him off to boarding school strange. See I'm like I don't understand but I get it. Yeah. But I did really appreciate the whole dynamic of taking this happy family and the symbolicness at the beginning of the family photo breaking. Yeah. Good point. The family he said he said my family is breaking. Good point. Because of what he did at the beginning like when I at first I thought it was so I thought me too. This was like a way I think that's what they wanted you to believe is that this was before but also I guess this he had a daughter that was older than this kid so that kind of well and it does it just from a from a while his wife was Yeah from a from a drama to a logical point of view which is the proper creation of a story that's compelling and has good conflict and you want to raise the stakes as a much more interesting compelling and problematic for him to have done this while he's married then before because it puts the wife in a position of much more difficult capacity to be forgiving and it puts him in a much more severe place of self-deprecating beating himself up and it makes it just harder to get past much harder but yeah I thought that I thought it did a really good job I'm really excited I am too once again most of all the other ones are I think I just I mapped it out in 50s and 60s or most of the other ones okay cool so we're going to get some we're going to get some old ones but some ones that oldies but goodies oldies gold that are classics like when you think of Indian cinema these are the the classics that we're trying to get to we know there's a ton we won't be able to get to all of them but we're going to try to get to a lot of them so let us know and Shah love obviously we love him and I'd love if they've worked together I'd love to watch them work I'd love to watch more of her work I've thought that she she was surprising in terms of somebody that I didn't really have any recognition for I didn't recognize her from Satya and I felt that her screen presence was beautiful no no this is not the wife oh who were you referring to earlier this is this is what I was referring to earlier but this is the friend that got back together oh that makes sense she is not from Satya okay I didn't think I'd seen her before but I'd like to see more of her work absolutely so let us know what's next on we should watch down below