 Good morning everybody, good evening, good afternoon wherever you are in the world, hello if you're on the podcast, it's the Galactic History Show, it's the second show for the week, I'm your host Chris Hales and we've got another action packed episode for you today. Today we have both Andrew Bartsis and Nikki Fetzi with us and we're going to be covering off on some issues, some aspects, more aspects of human sexuality and sensuality with a couple of guests giving their comments on their current relationship and their previous relationship. But first of all let's bring in Andrew, how are you today Andrew? I am doing pretty good today Chris, I have a bit of a sore throat so I'm going to last as long as I can but it's been very good, how are you doing today? I'm doing pretty well, pretty well having, wow what a week, lots of so much stuff happening actually, great deal happening and I think today is going to be just as eventful. But I'm sorry, you're in a river at the moment, you're commemorating the undamning of a river? It was undamned last year, it was the Ivernus River here in Port Angeles in Washington. It was the place where the largest salmon in the world were recorded 125 plus pounds. When they dammed the river the salmon couldn't go up the river anymore. Now that they've finally undamned the river, you can actually see the salmon going up the river. So they've undamned it last year and now the salmon are actually running up the river. Are they back to the original size or is that going to take some time? It'll take years to get back to that size, you won't find salmon in that size range because of overfishing? Yeah, a shame as always. But we're working on fixing things so nature will take its course, excellent. Nature always takes its course now that the undamned river, and you find it so in its own way pleasing to be at a river that's undamned now and doing a show like this after having a series of no time experiences and plenty of people that have personally shared what it's like living in no time and for all those that are regular listeners, you know, we have a lot more to share with you. Yes, and did anything significant happen with the group during their time? Did they reach a state of understanding as to what no time meant for them? Everyone had their own no time experience and more. Like yesterday's show, six people from the Calgary area came, so there was definitely a Canadian connection there. As for no time, each person had their own experience which was absolutely perfect for what they needed. That seems to be the way that it works. It works very much at an individual and a group level. Having had that experience just recently myself, and it's, as we've been discussing, like the converging of synchronicities on a continuous scale, which makes it rather, it's quite different to any other particular thing. You look back on it and it stands out as being quite a significant experience if you just contrast it with the other group experiences that one has as you go through the years. Very interesting stuff. Are you planning on doing more no time sessions at the castle? We're leaving for Hawaii next and we will do other no time sessions at other parts of the world. It'll be very limited by specialty invite for those people that want to have the experience. Those people that were there, many of them are already sharing their experiences, as well as privately for the people that I experienced it separate. With me right now is Larry Bezal and Katie Cherry, and I believe, Nikki, are either or two. Yes, I am here. She's here. Hello, Nikki. How are you? Wonderful. Thank you. How about you? I'm good. I'm good. A lot of the full moon energy is going on, for sure. So you were saying you've got a full, a proper full moon happening at the moment, have you? Yes. Yes. I'll hear in the beautiful Sunshine State, California. It's definitely affecting a lot of people on a negative level, unfortunately. The full moon energy seems to bring out somewhat the angst in people. They get quite anxious. That's going on with you, is it, Nikki? Not to me personally, but to other people around them. That just shows that they're not quite as fast. They need to clean out more stuff on their closet. The mental capacity, emotional, have to be more stabilized. And that's like a yo-yo effect, that's what I call it. Yeah. So the full moon energy brings out the baggage, for me. Yes, it does. Because it's like this. It's like you have a balloon at a normal state, right? The balloon is just nice and maintained its shape. It could be stretched. It could be flexible. That's a human personality. It could be flexible. It could go any direction. It could, that's a happy state. When you start injecting pressure, that's air, forcing air into a balloon, it starts stretching. And that's the anxiety we're talking about, that tension to a point where that moment where it's going to blow up. And that is human personality, where that's when they start blowing up and they start taking stuff out on you for no reason. And you don't have to do anything. And their mental left brain capacity, the ability to analyze the wisdom goes out the door. At that tension point where it has to blow. Like right now, since I've been on the show, my Wi-Fi, Facebook, anything with electronic, just pay off. I've been attacked with all the system. And so with all the Skype, I'm getting like even eight hours of delay of information coming through Skype. And you're like, whoa, and then people get upset and they don't realize that hello, maybe there's a problem there. I've heard that happening to others. In fact, I've heard of delays of days of data and then a whole bunch of data comes through. Yeah. I've had it go a month, a month later. Like right now, I'm getting so many messages on Skype, messages from June are starting to appear now. Fascinating. Now, do you think that's just that Skype is not dealing with the volume of stuff you're getting? Do you think it's a deliberate thing that's going on with both of you? All of the above. All of the above. That is correct. Now, I would say more towards, okay, I would say 70% is more on the direct attack because I don't have, you know, over a thousand volume as Andrew, but I'm still getting eight hours delayed of information. Yeah. I think the direct attack. The best thing we can say for the listeners' purposes for those who are trying to contact you is please be patient and please use both Skype and email if you need to get a message to Nicky or to Andrew just to make sure it gets through because there is a lot of interference going on. A lot of interference. Yeah. I mean, the under continual attack from those who would rather this information did not get out there, particularly the human sexuality material. Oh, yes. That's a great interest to everybody. Looking on that subject, let's bring in Katie and Larry because what we wanted to do right at the moment is talk to a couple who have actually been practicing some of these things that we've been talking about in a relationship that's, well, I'm guessing a little here, but I think it's reasonably recent for both of them, but they've both obviously had previous relationships which were very much more, you know, I'd hate to call it traditional, but very much from the past. So Andrew, is it possible to start with Katie? Sure. Katie is right here. It's Katie Cherry. Hello. Good morning, Katie Cherry. How are you? Hi, Katie. Hi, Nicky. Hi, Kate. Thanks for talking to us, Katie. I like talking to you. Thank you. Well, that's good. That's good. The relationship that you have with Larry at the moment, how old is that relationship for you, too? We met at the Think Workshop for Two Days in January. It was January. Yeah, we didn't really know each other. Then I went to Mount Shasta with him, so I mean, I'd say we'd known each other for four or three months. I'm old. Three months is not that long relationship, so Larry, you can actually hear us at the same time. Can you? Yep. There's a camera. Okay. Hi, Larry. Hi, Nicky. Very good. Okay, so you two have been together only for a short time. You've both had previous relationships. I'm aware that Larry was married previously. Would you consider all of your previous relationships to be of, let's call it of a traditional nature, traditional being, you know, the old paradigm type? And how different is the new relationship to the old? What's happening between you that really falls into line with the information that we're talking about and anything else that you want to comment on? Yeah, well, it could seem to me that most old paradigm relationships are based almost primarily initially on sex, access to it, and essentially permission to have it, right? Yep. And this relationship and these relationships are noted by the instance of that being the driving factor for being in the relationship. There is a different basis for it entirely. Can you speak to that different basis? Sure. The basis is creation. We want to create together. And understanding how you create together is basically what we're exploring. How do you create together? So it doesn't exclude sensuality, at this point it doesn't include sexuality because none of us really have a clear sexual field. You know, that's part of the process of clearing our field, is clearing all the sexual program. And that one's pretty big, you know? There's a lot of that that's been into our programming, I guess you want to call it programming. That's what everything is based on, selling it, controlling over it, who has control over it. Everything is sold through it with that energy through it. And so, you know, clearing those programs and returning it to its existence as energy without the program attached to it is part of what I'm exploring anyway. I'm not sure about everyone else. That's my take on it. So how are you going about clearing the old programs? Is that done by ritual? Is it done simply by communicating with Katie about it, talking about it? Or is it something that's happening just internally? Well, essentially, any process of clearing anything is essentially becoming conscious of it, that it exists. And welcoming in the teachers, the instruction, the data, the whatever process personally clears it best in you. If you make a conscious quest for clarity, processing, clearing, understanding, then the information begins to appear in your field and it's along your paying attention. You'll see it. We did a 16-hour relationship course covering all of these things in depth energetically and informationally. And with that, I guess, instead of, you know, since I am a little bit analytical, I like to get all of the little details about it and understand it from all the little angles, get all the perspectives. From that angle, then, when something comes up, a program which is essentially, I'm feeling a charge about this, I can look at where it is and where it originated from, why it's there, and then I can choose whether I want to keep that one or not. Because some of them you want. Some of them you don't. You know, it's your choice to do what you want. Yes, so you have to work out whether the charge you're feeling. I think, dude, is that when you're feeling tension about something, whether it's positive tension or a negative? It's essentially you're feeling something causing you to want to react. And so instead of reacting, you just go inside and look at that energy and where it is, you know, what is that? Let it get big and let it express and see if it's really yours or somebody else's idea. And even if it is somebody else's idea, is it something that you agree with? It might very well be something that you want. So essentially you're... Just to interject here real quick. Sure. What we're all working on here is coming together on a soul-family relationship. And that was what Mt. Shasta was about, was soul-family coming together and working out the logistics of what it means to be soul-family. If a soul-family like this hasn't existed on this world for 350,000 years, so we're the new explorers with the new rules here. We don't have the human handbook that you didn't get at birth. We have to literally bring it out of the old paradigms that were lost and destroyed and rewritten. We've got to do it with our heart-space discernment. And what Larry was talking about on processing is absolutely vital in any relationship. And what we've got going here between me, Kay, and Larry, and Nicky and the others that come and go from the soul-family is what do we want to create together and how do we continuously keep our fields clean so that our creation field is matching the rest of our energy fields, our emotional bodies, our spiritual bodies, our sensual bodies, our sexual bodies. Though we may not be expressing those on an individual basis between each other, but we're still healing each other's background energies by keeping ourselves clean on an energy level and keeping ourselves in alignment with what it is we're creating. And what we're creating is places and spaces to have healing centers, places for soul-families to come together so they can begin to experience their own known time field, their own energy field of what it is to be a part of the soul-family that has a choice to make the world different for the individuals and for the medical collectors. We're sharing this experience in a radio show so that the collective has an understanding we're here to express parts of the new paradigm. We may not have 100% of the answer, but at least we're pointing in a compass direction that people's hearts face know is true. Your role in the soul group is very much that of the shaman. And part of the role of the shaman from what we've discussed privately is to help others clear their fields for the purposes of the running of the soul group, the success of the soul group. So how do you think the progress is going between Larry and Katie? What have you seen change about them and their field in the time you've observed this relationship developing? It's not a relationship like that. It's a soul-family expression. So relationship is the whole paradigm world, word. And the new expression of this is soul-family. Relationships can evolve out of soul-family and not be incestuous. We're at the very beginning stage of soul-family expression, which means each person comes to the table with the life that they've led before. And as they begin to examine the life they led before and how soul-family is evolving in front of them, the question comes up is, what is it in my field that I can process on my own and what is it that I need help with? In Katie's experience it was having a large group of friends that weren't in complete alignment with her and finding out what inside her was in alignment with them that wasn't in alignment with the vice versa and also how it reflected into the group as it was coming together when it was very large. Because sometimes our little micro-issues reflect the macro-issue. What I see going on in the Galactics right now is very much reflected in the soul-family scenarios of people not fully expressing parts of themselves because of human programming, not because of not looking at a subject matter or dealing with something that was a limitation or a fear. We've all become close enough in the last 12 weeks that we can identify when fear is being brought into the group even on the most subtle level and we can talk about it and there is no domination or saying, I'm right, you're wrong. You sit in the group and you talk. It sounds like one of the major issues at least initially is those relationships that you bring with you that extend some sort of effect or influence into the group and how everyone copes with that or not. Absolutely. People bring into the group. What's the group's in alignment? If anybody comes into the group with even the slightest part out of alignment it's amplified a thousand fold and that person literally cannot be a part of the group. They will be removed from the group by themselves. Whether their actions speak louder than their words or their words speak louder than their actions they will be removed by themselves simply because of what is not in alignment with them cannot bear the soul-family energy because the soul-family energy is complete energy and incomplete energy just doesn't function with it. You've seen this time and time and time again where one person will have a fear that they won't process and they begin to project it on to everyone else in the group and everyone else in the group gives that fear back to that person a thousand fold because it's not in alignment with soul-family purpose. So any kind of artifact that's introduced into the group immediately is amplified way out of proportion to what it would be in some other kind of series of relationships. Correct. We get a couple of days usually of time to understand that this is what's going to happen and so prepare yourself and you'll go stick your tools to it ask the questions that you need ahead of time. You know it's going to come and we share it with them and most of the time they don't really take it seriously because they descend right into a thousand times whatever their fears are manifested instantly. When you're in this field what you focus on appears quickly and even quicker when you're in this configuration. You're in a no-time field of manifesting co-creators that means we create and co-create right away. We manifest in front of us and time and time and time again everyone here even Nikki can see we literally can manifest in front of us a free vehicle. I'm sure they paid us $200 to take away. Yeah. We wanted some gas money with our car. Well let's talk to Katie for a moment. I presume she can hear me still? Yes. Yes, very good. Nice to talk to you Katie. Katie you've obviously had previous relationships and from all that we're hearing you've entered into not just a relationship with Larry but too with a whole group of people and the difference between that and previous ways of living because it's really down to a way of living. It's not just this isn't a temporary thing this is what stretches before you. Can you contrast what you see is the for you the biggest differences between what you did in the past and what's happening now? Well I would say that my relationships in the past really were based like all my relationships were based on my worth and what the soul family really reflects to me is that I am worth loved and I am worth accepting myself as I am and being given that space to go through my fears and process and regain that trust within myself and my relationships of the past tended to reflect my worthlessness and the other person's worthlessness and that's kind of hiding out in the patterns and not really actually accomplishing what we wanted to. Sense almost like a reversal of the past. It's creating a trust so that energy is able to connect with my own love to connect things that I kind of separated from myself or judged and bring that into my own flow of unity with my desire and not have to fear. Yeah and they used an interesting word there with judged and I guess the inference there is that is that the only judgement that goes on inside the soul group is judgments that you decide to process yourself about yourself. Yeah that's exactly right Chris. Because that's a big difference. The thing is in soul family we all have a relationship there's no Larry, Katie, Andrew, Katie, Larry, Andrew it's not. It's a communal expression of a soul family relationship. So Larry and Katie want to go off and process something or just sit there and chitter chatter and tell jokes with somebody else on the other side of the room doing something else. So we all have a zone of trust and that communal relationship of a soul family expression allows all of our crown chakras to be intertwined in a way that trust is created and procreated each time we share something even if it's a meal or if it's a moment or sitting together doing a radio show I have a very sore throat from this morning soul family stepping up to help during the no time experience where we needed an extra person to drive while we were going out taking people somewhere else each person does their part and instinctively knows when someone else needs help. What I'm finding I'm seeing how important it is for people to be really, really aware of the process and for that to be as much as possible an experienced hand helping people through the first parts of this because of this it is quite a significant difference in every way between the soul family situation and what we would deem in the past as being a personal or family close family bonds very different Well yeah, it's a little bit like you know what somebody would do to you would be something and in this case it's what you are doing yourself you are doing it and you're doing it as a yeah, this is a little hard to describe but I think you see an old old relationship with my wife didn't pay the bills it would be her fault and we would have some blame and some shame and some guilt in some of that process you know and be fully in that experience of guilt, blame and shame and in this case if Katie doesn't pay a bill so what yeah it is a great note charging me I know you don't pay the bill or pay the bill you don't have an idea, I don't care get it or don't, we won't help getting it of course I'll help if you don't that's your choice and it's not, all of the decisions are made based on a little bit different a different choice point essentially you're choosing the purpose of the creation relationship and your actions are in support of that and anything that's not in alignment with that can't stay in the field same thing in three or four or five different ways Katie can say it in a way that I have a used to need a translator because it would be in the divine feminine emotional language that it didn't come easily to me to express and then spending time with her sharing us saying exactly the same thing to each other and arguing about it at first like no this is what I mean so this is what you said and you know I'm between them saying you're arguing about the same thing you're all saying exactly the same thing it reminds me of our business plan I don't know if I shared that or not we had a business plan organizational structural plan you know who's going to do what, where, when how do we organize projects who's going to be in this area and that area and a bunch of lines and take places to foot names and you know assign responsibility and coordination without anybody being in charge still be able to track a coordinated effort with focusing on you know at that point we had I think 12 or so people in the field and then I asked Katie at Chewwood to write a business plan too so we can look at them both and share them I made the mistake of saying oh I thought it was a whole type of mission it is a whole type of mission I mean me so we were arguing for about I don't know 10 or 15 minutes this was months ago years ago but it was probably only a few weeks ago six weeks five or six weeks ago at any rate Katie wrote our business plan she wrote a line on the paper she said what did you say this is the planet oh this is the sky and it was lonely so it was lonely and it created the earth and the earth wanted to talk to the sky so it created a tree and the tree reached up into the sky and it had birds and the trees to go express how it felt everywhere so we got this picture of this tree in the sky and that's our business plan and I'm looking at it going oh I really really see it now actually not I think I need a translation we actually brought it to Seattle with us and I gave it to our programmer who was going to put the business plan on a computer that we could share in a way that we could all understand it and he said oh they're exactly the same and I said oh yeah tell me how I drew mine in a tree and he did his in like a web flow chart you put them on top of each other it's a tree it's exactly the same thing that's a perfect example if you want an example that would be a perfect example well that's definitely multidimensional just different expressions of the same thing the the statement Andrew just made a minute ago the shaman stepping in Andrew how's it going to be practical for people to go down this path given that we have quite a lack of shamans with experience who can step into this role how are we going to do that very good question and to gain experience as a shaman you must understand what the word is in the beginning the light worker industry has multiple definitions of what a shaman is the most basic definition of the shaman is a person that has a ancestral land that they ritually practice and communicate with this is the most basic function so it's your everyday life that's what being a shaman is it's how you work with your lands and people are part of your lands the most important part of the land is keeping it purified in such a way that the energy is progressing instead of being static or stacked so when it comes to the shaman and the soul group of configuration and the soul family configurations his actual purpose is to not mediate disputes but to identify the charges that people are getting off of them so that they can process on their own and if you run into a process that needs assistance you create a ritual of release for that person on the mental basics of a shaman if you run into more and more difficult processes you need to create a healing path that healing path is about daily cleansing of your energy of your aura, your outer aura and your inner aura that's inside your body and that which you're broadcasting outside of you and the shaman's purpose is to recognize what the people are speaking and what the energy behind their words is when you look at that basic function of the shaman's purpose is to be a translator of the energy in such a way that the two people in this unity for that moment can see that there is a unity force which is the shaman helping them see that the energy they're creating charges with is the actual subject matter to tackle and not the actual argument itself Yes One of the pictures that's forming in my mind is if you've ever seen any documentaries in good documentaries or movies about community life rural community life in the past you notice there always seems to be a figure in the picture who's if you like the mediator the person who who understands how to process problems and sometimes it's the quartermaster or the manager there's always someone playing that role of making the community actually work in a positive fashion and also involved directly with the land and I guess what we're looking at there is what became of the shaman role over a long period of time or at least what we as a culture are allowed to have based on the records we've got we're allowed to put out in media at this point in time and it strikes me that those people still I think there's people around who are inherently like that and will probably step into those roles without even knowing it as time goes on well they will know it eventually but they'll step into it without really knowing why They're already doing that on a different scale the thing is when you come into a soul family configuration the shaman and this is where Nicky and I have had some severe differences with the light worker community where these people call themselves a shaman or call themselves a healer and yet they do none of their own healing work they give until they're broken and then they try to continue to give and give and give when in fact they're giving broken energy to broken people making their lives worse the shaman in the soul family configuration can do the most harm because his energies are amplified a thousand fold and the advice that he gives is amplified a thousand fold and the soul family will reject them in such a way that person in such a way that if they don't confront their own fear, their own envies, their own jealousy, their own hurt beings the shaman will suffer the greatest in both of the masses polarity switches which we see regularly as light workers on bad physician heal thyself that's right fascinating so Larry and Katie you both sound very happy with the situation and the progress you've made what work do you think you still have to do or do you think you've reached a symbiotic situation that can flow forward from this point what I feel that the healing what soul family is and why because I'd look at people that came and go or how I would be able to heal like this and I wonder why did I get this situation and the only thing I kept coming to is that I said yes at a really deep level I wanted to heal I wanted to be better and I wanted to follow my dreams more than I wanted to see in this community and follow the patterns and so when you come into a soul family configuration not quite sure what that means my terminology but to me it means saying yes to being in unity and so when you come up with the charge or because there were times where I wanted to run away from a soul family and I decided that they were like horrible and I don't know and what I ended up coming down to is that I was I got a charge from someone that was involved with us at that point and then I would be reacting to that based on my deep parts that I wasn't quite sure I wanted to bring to the light I wanted to keep my little secret hermit Katie deep caves going on inside and so and I would notice that and make another choice to acknowledge that and feel the love over the separation and I would think that a soul family is kind of bringing all the parts of ourselves and our souls into oneness different people maybe playing a different instrument but it's all our own work of staff Katie there's an openness that is required in this situation which a lot of people would initially find hard to do because a lot of relationships are based on keeping things from one another unfortunately because that's what I was finding last weekend interacting with all the folks at Lake Conjola that there was very very open and willing to be vulnerable for the purpose of gaining from the situation that seems to me what you're speaking to as well that you were feeling vulnerable and that new feeling of deliberately making yourself vulnerable was part of what you were processing yeah go ahead well you keep going what Chris said is hit it right on the bullseye because it is about surrendering before you surrender one must trust oneself first it's not about trusting other people you can't trust others until you trust yourself and when you trust allowing yourself to surrender that means you are allowing yourself to get hurt to be looked at in the most vulnerable aspect the ugly part of yourself that you cannot even look at that's why we have this dark closet and we keep stashing part of our mistakes and what have you it be from thoughts, our words, our actions throw it all in the closet and finally it has to explode you have to deal with that okay it's a have to it is vital because when you don't that is when the illness manifests the actual physical illness or liver cancer, name it depends on where you process your energy some people like it in form of anger so it goes into your liver okay and what Katie has done is I'll put another example for those of you who don't understand a lot of the spiritual technical words that Andrew was talking about soul family and configuration it's nothing more than just your own family your blooded family that you were born in okay except in this case with the soul family in unity because you're joining in that in the energetic aspect but soul family you're not connected by blood in the 3D in this world you're united from many past lives together so you're working on a higher level consciousness it also means that yes you are exploring, they're here where you trust them if you allow them to trust they're holding each other's mirror and say hey take a look at yourself you know like Larry and Katie they were you know when they do business planning they were saying the same thing but everyone has his or her own definitions, connotations word that they use based on their experiences but ultimately it's the same goal it's like your own family what are they trying to reach and that's what they're working towards and I'll put that in a business term think of it you are in a big Walmart company you need to have the CEO and you need to have the CEO can be the shaman okay how do you configure it meaning okay Katie is good in maybe administration and Larry is great in the technical where and how do we put them together and how can we better create some kind of communication system that would allow for them to work effectively okay and openly and that means if Katie is not being open completely to what she's doing and Larry is not then they cannot efficiently be transparent and share because as a company for it to grow and vibrate as to reach the ultimate goal right for Walmart is to what sell sell sell right it's all about sales so that is the ultimate goal for a sole family is to join an energetic work in one like pieces of puzzle form together become the whole picture that's a completion okay on the aesthetic level and that's what they're talking about the sole family connecting when you are to connect and agree on the same higher consciousness level it's like piece of the puzzle if you will is that energetically from each one of them comes together and form this giant piece of puzzle and there you have it a completion if you have a complete piece of the puzzle can you actually see the pictures the image of you know on the puzzle of course you can when you are not in unity consciousness scattered disseminate pieces and therefore you can't see the image you can't see the full picture there is incompletion hmm so I guess it's up to the for the shaman to help people recognize you know where they fit into the jigsaw mm-hmm because that requires him or her to have the intuition abilities and that and the sole family group will also determine how effective is the shaman okay the shaman is you know AA degree versus you know bachelor master PhD level of how far he or she can expand the vocabulary of galactic history information method of healing then they're going to be limited they can only get certain information mm-hmm so limitation is not a good thing it is better to be expansive and try to stay on neutral ground because then you can be observer and then redirected without biases and ego because those things limit you from expansion yeah so that's the other thing that came up last weekend there was you know no ego in the room at all you know these were people who most of them had never met one another before but none of them felt they had anything to prove there was no the usual you know measurement and judgment going on that people who are strangers to one another in in a lot of ways go through when they first meet they're all trying to if you like even the term size one another up is mine bigger than yours etc and the term when we're having discussions we're all actually recognizing these characteristics that were going on because that was part of the discussion why did it feel different and the term holding up a mirror to one another actually came up in discussion that exact term but not doing it in a negative sense just doing it in a non-judgmental here you are kind of sense so almost like here you are is there anything about yourself that you want to actually fix rather than here's what's wrong with you you should fix yourself right and when you say non-judgmental all it means okay it's such a harsh way because we put so much emotional attachment to it and negatively non-judgmental it means that you're not you're not using your personal experiences and to define it okay looking at things objectively just by looking at it for what it is so if that is a car that you are looking at it is nothing more than let's say a four door car for damn being judgmental or subjective the connotation describe the object itself is that is a beautiful or ugly looking car that I have ever seen that's a judgmental aspect that comes from your personal experiences okay so the hard part is to get rid of the emotion and look at the object for what it is and it takes training takes training a lot of processing in your head I'm getting the picture of the shaman you know working from neutral ground and everyone else learning to do that and you know having their objective of doing that Andrew is that a really important part from your perspective in the role of a shaman is maintaining neutrality absolutely not only maintaining neutrality but maintaining relationships with each of the individuals in a neutral manner and still being myself that may allow some level of polarity because you cannot live on the razor's edge of neutrality that's the nature of this unity world and when I create a no time field and they're all a part of it they have endless amounts of opportunities to process their own systems that are inside them and as they begin to go through the various processing it's the shaman's duty to look at them and allow them to make mistakes especially if you see that a set of things are going to happen that can ultimately be effected up in such a way that if you don't allow them to make those mistakes you find that you hit the easy button for them and then they don't do anything at all on their own they expect you to do it for them or expect you to tell them all about it so it can become somewhat of a zen experience where you're trying to stimulate them to work it out themselves but in a directed fashion by you just to nudge them into the right approach to the process sorry I had to hit mute there first can you say that again the role of the shaman is not to spoon feed but to if you like trigger people in the right direction in their thinking so they can learn to self process they can handle it's difficult enough handling people anyway but if you had 15-20 people and we must talk about how big these soul groups can get too if you have a large group of people you don't have enough time and energy to be spoon feeding people at all you want them to be independently processing recognising and processing themselves yeah that's why a lot of times you put it in question format even though you know everything you see it so many different dimensions you still have to place it in a question format and you're just guiding we can be here and give the most powerful healing but ultimately it is up to individual to accept and do their own healing because of the free will in this instance where we're going to a balanced divine masculine divine feminine situation would you expect that there'll be a fairly equal number of male and female shamans actually acting in these roles in the future that would make sense would it not absolutely in the configuration we're in right now I'm acting as the sensual but both Larry and Katie have stepped up into their own divine masculine divine feminine and have been in the no time field long enough that they're stepping into their multi-dimensional power just about anyone in front of Larry and he can go through the fear process and limitation expectation and get a person to understand the types of charges that they're creating in their own energy field whereas Katie can get directly to the love of a person and that's one of both of their special talents and as the soul family configuration grows and changes and modifies everyone will be their own shaman because a shaman lives on their land and knows what's going on in their land the land is your heart what's going on in your space I had those as soon as you started talking two things came to me first of all it's foolish of me to assume that the shaman role will be taken up by a male or a female would not the shaman role also be taken up by partners by male-female role would that not work better and of course the other obvious thing is that people will learn to be their own shaman let's call it learning to be their own leader which is a subject that's come up a lot in discussions about how this whole new paradigm works where we have no leaders because it comes from within well that's the shaman role and that comes with great responsibilities as well well we're trying to achieve a situation to move to a situation where everyone is truly self responsible so I'm actually seeing now more about how this soul family actually reflects right across the community right across the world under the circumstances we're discussing why on earth would you elect anybody anywhere to represent you or to be your leader until you want to do you just wouldn't do it that puts an end to all forms of representation and politics right there bang done you all kind of blew my mind a little bit when you all talked about I don't know exactly what you said but the reason that I haven't been understanding Larry clearly it's not that Larry are so different that he communicates differently than I do and so I'm still trying to hide from him and still trying to put him in different places that I can understand and putting up a facade and not seeing Larry clearly because I'm still kind of in fear of the level because Larry's standing right in front of me being Larry and it's me not hearing him clearly because I'm going what if he does it out of that and you know Katie that is what we're talking about taking responsibility and you've done amazing job about that to recognize within yourself that okay I'm taking the responsibility to go within myself okay and to surrender allowing giving myself permission within my own heart where's my insecurity and yeah Larry is just being Larry right and no judgment or something you know coming from him he's not projecting that he's just speaking his truth based on his experiences and then you who feel insecure you know if people who are not responsible the person would probably be more reactive like hey that's what you're saying is very you know offensive and you know what you're saying is not right and blah blah blah blah you see what I mean so when you're responsible you're like okay let me check my own place where am I coming from where is this insecurity coming okay and is it because I feel like maybe my personal experiences in work or life is not up to par to Larry so therefore I feel inferior you see and that's where the insecurity comes from maybe I feel like I'm just not good enough for him at whatever level that may be you know what I mean so there's more to the feeling that you have for the person so you really have to go deep and deep within your soul and that's part of the awakening and enlightenment process there's an interesting part I wanted to add a quick part of that is acknowledging and understanding that there is no situation that would occur in this grouping that I would intentionally be doing something out of alignment with my own self or saying something that would be intentionally designed to hurt or judge anyone within my soul family especially so you know already you have the safety from the set point of whatever it is that I heard it wasn't designed to impact me to move from to move to introspection to move to where is my charge from it's my responsibility to deal with how I feel it's sort of like you understand what I'm saying a new way of looking at what somebody just said to you oh it wasn't there's any way that that was intended to attack me there's something else about soul family soul family comes together 95% of what we all want it's the same thing we just may express it a little differently and we've me layering hate of seeing this as the various people have come and gone from the configuration when people come together they want to do the same thing the soul family is separated we're here to experience the same type of consciousness experience though we may perceive it a little different the results are still the same the purpose for going to Hawaii is to go and have the experience of all the people that was soul family that's reuniting there and asking us to come there and Nicky is going to be coming to this Hawaii trip also a whole new layer to it because Nicky has been away from the soul family yet still in full communication with us we all talk regularly we've done webinars together we've expanded our creational ability and not allowed the limitations of separation to affect us one of the things I'm detecting here is that the we also communicate telepathically too you know we don't sit and talk every day just when we do the moment that we have talking in 15 minutes is like equivalent to like 5 hours worth of talking because when we communicate it's a higher level communication whereas you know other people 5 hours you still feel empty like feel incomplete but when Andrew and I we talk for even 15 minutes half hour we feel more like complete at a different level hmm there's a whole lot of high level stuff going on all the time in this configuration and the interesting in the configuration there's going to be a whole lot of higher stuff going on yeah that's well actually you know am I wrong in saying that Nicky would also be acting because of the level that she works at she would step into the role at least somewhat of actually acting as Shaman as well as your own self Andrew would that not be true she already does it's a perfect syncopation of concepts hmm the first music you know it's its own expression of harmony and perfection because I can finish Nicky's sentences and she can finish mine vice versa as can many of the people in the soul family and when Nicky is in the physical presence or the spiritual presence or the phone presence she's completing her part of the soul family circuit and that circuit is providing advice on a spiritual level on a telepathic level just on a you go do good job you know so on and so forth or helping us with the ancestral karma or just sitting there and having a conversation complete some other parts so she fit that part instantly because that's just her nature as is my nature and as is Katie and Larry's and when we come together at this type of soul family configuration the final outlook is everyone's a shame it and everyone shares skills so everyone is on equal levels and if one person wants to specialize like I specialize in the galactic history you know Nicky specializes in the medical intuition and the karma and ancestral healing as well as the other awful stuff that we work with we compliment each other because of our specialties hmm yeah and it's like dancing it's just like dancing it just flows there's no fights there's no differences we're the same same of the you know each other on the opposite side of the coin and yet what I'm telling you there's a thought I'm trying to form in my mind here there's a real apart from the complete acceptance of one another there is a real allowance you make space for others to process their energy it's not just about them processing themselves but you're allowing them space within the soul family to process acknowledging that that's going on just so that it can happen without just the process itself creating friction and you know that to me that's a really vital thing really vital thing and because that doesn't exist in a lot of families they just don't give them give one another that kind of respect in fact yeah that's why it's called soul family that's where you connect on a higher conscious level now however there are some special family unique family that do have this kind of conversation with their children and that's the new trend that's coming and I like to propose having a tele-seminar that's coming up I'm not sure when but I will definitely let you guys know is to have conversation with mom indigo children how and just normal children how to communicate with them you know on a higher conscious level and I had that one conversation today with some of the kids and they're just like loving it you know and kids love it parents love it and they just keep on growing and that's how we educate we got to educate the children at a young age train them embrace them into the right way rather than we allow them to continue into adulthood who they will surely become just like us you know contaminated with the old program mind-setting that is it takes longer period of time to de-program that as much as the ingrained it into our DNA level into a soul family will ultimately come children and it's given that the whole of the collective is going to go through some rapid changes in the not too distant future you know the children have to come into this equation all the way along the line so we all have a lot of learning to do the children is our future they are our future speaking of which can we ask Katie and Larry whether they see children in their future together we have one he's like how old is he 39 39 what's his name well his name is Andrew ah okay we just forgot to get a timed right I timed well he thinks we're funny we're number one fair enough well hopefully you'll have some of the other variety at some point the life that a child would leave in a soul family grouping especially the first five years of its life would be a completely different experience to an old paradigm family quite different completely different actually I'll ask him if you're curious do you think Larry and I are in a romantic relationship sorry were you wondering if like I'm kind of confused I kind of find that maybe but even Larry we're in a romantic relationship well I did is that me just applying my old paradigm interpretation filters that's a lot of words and I think I guess you could use those words and I wouldn't make it so interesting yeah we just let's put in what I like to look about Larry but we shouldn't really be interested like that well there you go there you go there's a lesson for me right there absolutely I mean it seems to me the old rules don't apply I've fallen straight into the trap bingo that brings us to how having a male work together it's not because I'm wanting to get my kicks or go out for a nice dinner it's like oh my gosh you dream of unity consciousness and helping along with me to work together it's that pure intent that drives the entire relationship you know and with it you know pure intent when I have issues come up and I don't fall into all the patterns of like making out and having sex which makes things more confusing then it allowed me to take place to process the whole family without deciding their evil in any way well see there's that level of respect again because you know the old the old style of relationship was very much involved you know very a physical relationship gets very much drawn into it's almost used a lot as leverage in a relationship and you know the ebb and flow around it was always you know there's always an issue not an issue there's an aspect of conflict around it a lot of the time and I guess if you know I'm sort of standing from the outside to you guys and saying wow that's quite a pure relationship then in the sense that it has a simplicity to it that would probably be very refreshing actually but at the same time you guys seem to be really really close we are very very very close but if we wouldn't see we would probably punch each other yeah she doesn't understand what she's saying okay well on that note on that note when the process that you're in is creating new relationships essentially you could start with what I went down to the river a moment ago and got which was a handful of brand new clay from the new river that's freely dammed and it's sitting here in front of us ready to be formed into whatever shape and form breathes us right now and I guess I can take a picture and I'll post it but it's pretty awesome it has a door it has a spare and it has a ramp and it has a whole bunch of arms it has a pine cone it has a moat what is that okay that's my interpretation what would you see? what is the whole formation? I think it's our shaman full family hut our shaman full family hut see it's like that's the point of co-creation in a sense which brings our many perspectives to the same thing and the perspectives that we haven't considered they bring as well so all together our perspectives create a reality and a more durable and reality more in alignment with what we're actually consciously thinking and in the soul family group it's even more obvious because on millions and millions and millions of years of levels of life we've already essentially agreed to the basic basis foundational do you think it would be fun to go sit at the river? oh yeah that would be great we don't have to ask in a sense we all agree on a lot of things 95% of the things as Andrew had mentioned already are in complete alignment the 5% of the stuff that we may have brought to here that we're essentially purging and clearing to the tools and the people that we work with so I saw one thing Katie saw another thing now I can see that that's a hush on a hush and I can see how we can build it she can see it we can visualize it Andrew can see it we can make it real so when you take someone's against me this person's against me oh my god against me me against the world out of it then she said everyone is saying I love you in a way that you don't understand wow so so I'm doing I don't understand look a very clear message there from both of you thanks so much for sharing and being so open about it now this is new territory for everybody and the only way we can understand it is to communicate about it and bring these things out but as usual no time is going to be interrupted by a song break because we need to let people go and grab a glass of water and do whatever they need to do and that would include you guys for a couple of minutes but don't fall in the river River though Fleming very good very good write a quick tip then Andrew are you still with us I'm barely here my voice is starting to crack a lot now okay we'll take a music break and after that we'll work out what we're going to do next we'll see you guys I got another 15 minutes of voice probably and then we have big key Katie and Larry here and this has been an outstanding show about soul family I've gotten these questions before psychically what does this have to do with galactic history absolutely everything soul family is the fundamental understanding of how we function in reality and the galactic history completely reflects that we have perfect soul families in the past and this information hasn't been allowed into our presence for 400,000 years and if you're going to function with a soul family you need to allow that to be present and show you how it works indeed well that's what this show is doing it's beginning that process that's right very good okay everybody we'll see you in about 4 minutes and we're back hi everybody are you guys still with us we are just locating a tiny bit to get out of the sun for a moment so we're walking very good are you guys operating from a phone or from a laptop well we have a laptop that the phone plugged into to keep it charged up so where a laptop is a big battery fair enough is Andrew still there he will be in effect yeah well just while we're waiting for Andrew I just wanted to just reflect on one thing for a moment that although the the idea of soul family for me is only months old they're talking about circumstances amongst a group of people that are quite specific and very special and we all have in our lives I hope we all have times memories of weekends of dinners of an afternoon with family that just seems so special that you can't quite put your finger on it why did it actually feel so good why did it work so well and I think if you if you look back on it and analyze it you'll probably find it's brushing up against this concept of the way that a soul family interacts and that is something to look forward to but if you know obviously there is a learning curve to this and we just have to be open to it so Andrew are you Katie you're obviously there hello I think what I really noticed is that I always talk about the dream in my heart that I came in and everyone has a dream in their heart and I have this dream and I would look at all the people around me and try to make it work and it never would and I felt very defeated until I would tell people about finding soul families to follow that dream that part of you your joy your light your love because that dream you have isn't for nothing it's a purpose it's your purpose and as you follow that then you will connect with your soul family because you already are with your soul family in your heart and they are you you all share everything yeah I even understand that that was beautiful thank you Katie thank you very very nice well they're still gathering into a safe place out of the sun yes we are under the big bridge at the foot of the mouth of the river right now absolutely beautiful nice cool breeze here instead of getting cooked in the sun hmm there's only so much sun one should have in a day well you do need some so how are the salmon doing are the salmon actually running at this point in time where you are well this time of the year they'll be humpies and those kind of sockeye would be coming up at this river there's large king salmon it's just like a this river is right now cleaning out all of its ancestral karma I guess you want to call it it was dammed up with no fish ladders it was illegally made the dams in the first place and the headwaters of this entire river is a national park so the entire upstream from here is all park so it hasn't really been molested too much so all of the everything behind the two dams that were here whose purpose was to provide free electricity well you know basically free if the company that built it recovered their cost which they did a long time ago to produce paper to cut down the forest a funny circle anyways yeah the dams are gone and the sediment is clearing out as they take a few years for it to clear out its ancestral karma I guess and then I'll go back to regular the 120 pound king salmon can run up the river again they need to be that large because it's so far up the river they need a lot of strength to make it up the falls they need a lot of strength to make it up the tight narrow river that goes a long long long long way to bring the ocean into the forest I presume that's because they need certain conditions in terms of you know water depth and temperature and so forth to do their breeding well their breeding spot way way way way way far into the forest and the purpose of a salmon in one aspect to bring the nutrients of the ocean which can't come through rain all the way to the center of the forest where the animals in there bring them out of the stream and into the forest so they travel they follow their path and they find a place where they bring joy, light and love to another sea salmon and the river they bring the nutrients of the ocean like Larry was saying it's completing a cycle of life so the ocean does truly exist on the land I've never heard it expressed that way before that's gorgeous actually and I wanted to say before we move forward that our blood family love is our whole family it's not that it's these specific people that we have to go outside ourselves and find it's that love as our whole family like my parents that I was born to and my family as I've gone on my journey I've become more connected with them I've been able to see them more clearly because I love them and it was hard for me when I wasn't positioning myself with my own love and accomplishing my own dreams to hear their love Katie I was just going to ask you how are your current DNA family how are they viewing this change in your life and in you Well like my dad one time I was sitting on the couch and my mom told my dad maybe he should listen to what I had to say and he said I'm not going to understand anything she has to say anyways but okay I mean I mean I'm from Texas and they definitely are like that but they love me and in a way they've helped me so much because they've provided the space for me to learn a lot of lessons of this unity and a safe place with people who at their core love me and I'm more prepared for this journey from the struggles I went through as a child because in a way they were they were providing that safe space a place for me to learn about with people who instinctively are my parents and they followed their agreements and I'm so grateful for loving me so much because it wasn't for that deep soul of them and encouraging me to not completely give up on life and kind of nursing you along with a piece of cheese almost Yeah, do they at least acknowledge that you've changed and that you're happy they notice that they would say I pretty much beat them up to the point that they're just like she's happy, she sounds happy she seems like she's doing something good so we support that to do that Katie And have you got any brothers and sisters Katie? Yeah, I have a younger sister and brother And how are they handling your shift in direction? From where I was in my life my whole family is just happy to see me doing something and being happy because they were pretty much afraid I was going to die or worse for a good portion of my past few years So it's a relief and it's almost like they get to be free because they don't have to hold the space of supporting someone who's scared to go love herself Wow Look, thank you for sharing that Katie that is really exceptional really appreciated and Larry how is your family because you've got you do have I gather an ex-marriage and how is the rest of your family your DNA family what sort of comments are they making on observing you make this change? That's a pretty interesting interesting story I have a very large extended family as a member of the Macaw tribe and so everyone in the tribe is family DNA-wise with many layers of cousins nieces, nephews, uncles, aunts everyone's uncle cousin or something in some form through some way some marriage, some all these ways and so my biological family on just my mother's side which is the tribal side is enormous and if anyone has ever grown up in a small town they know what the small town dynamics can be well if you had in small town and DNA family some of whom are here to provide contrast you can start to get an idea what it's like where my experience of it though is different I think than many would probably have information doesn't even enter my field all the yes we call it the what is it when people talk about other people what do they call that? gossip field so it's like with almost like a mused joshing really? that's what they think, that's what's going around town I can't believe that, I wouldn't even imagine that in a million years there's all the fears that you can imagine in a cult I'm wondering who's cult it was but nobody has a name for that there is no place there is no cult there's just a truck when we travel and have a good time and meet a lot of people and enjoy our life we're most how do you explain it most of it and all of it is essentially protecting their own into the experience so what they observe is something they would really actually enjoy I would really like to go do what I want with who I want, whatever it is that I want to do it and that's pretty big statement for many people because there's so many things limiting them from doing that so in order to remain happy in the dream not dream so much happy in the reality that has been created for them they have to not dream and it's difficult sometimes that's the way of people processing that aren't necessarily on their own path is to project your fear onto someone that you view as you like your family members so you project all of your fears on them and want them to see so consciously want them to process it for you and when you know that someone in your family is doing that then you're more able to recognize that you don't have to take that on like that was a big part of seeing my parents use authority figures that I have to do what they say seeing them as people with their own emotions and their issues that are acting from their state of love and it's not kind of encouraging myself to do what makes me feel good and not just be like massive victims yeah yes must be a relief for you as you said Katie for your parents and family that you know you've obviously you've stepped into an area of self-responsibility as well it's not just there are others around you you know supporting you that are not them but you're actually lifting yourself yeah it's really the biggest change for me is in like oh can I do that can I really do that oh I can no are you sure really I'm going to forget that I'm wearing out I don't know oh really but it's like yes it's here correct this is my past I'm going to give myself a chance mmm really cool and Larry the people are closest to you and your family the ones who have a better grasp of what's going on with you obviously some of the family members around you are viewing this as just some kind of strange situation that Larry's got himself into no doubt but the ones that are more aware of the details and understand it a bit better how are they feeling about it well um there are none I have a thousand a thousand or fifteen hundred family members and the ones that do actually I can squeeze the glimmers of it in the posts that they like on my Facebook page because the tribe you know as a whole we all pretty much are friends with everybody on Facebook and so you could start to see who's in alignment a little bit with some of these thoughts through the posts in the shares and things like that and so it's it's a growing a bit and then recently they'll get curious and they'll come ask to clear up because you know growing up in a family with family people eventually someone gets the nerve to go ask and see if this story is actually true because you know it's getting pretty far out so you get to clear the grapevine up a little bit once in a while like that when the community of the collective actually wants to get entirely drama you know it's really entertaining I'm sure story so it's a really entertaining story don't really want to I guess destroy the storyline before you went to all the ends of it so it creates a lot of opportunity for everyone to examine a lot of things and it's all fine because I mean by definition almost 100% of it is complete fabrication as though it takes on a life of its own and it allows the entire extended family to process all of these things that are in their field they're things that are actually their own personal projection they can project it on an imaginary me who has no charge about it and a neutral perspective and they're allowed to use I guess it's not using me but it's using the story as a place to process Mary doesn't have to poke that on because it has nothing to do with them truly it's not cancer at all and when you take the power out of someone like oh Larry you did this wait then it doesn't matter because he's being Larry that's kind of cool that's a really excellent part about it when you look at it because most respond in a way of reaction to false information someone's telling the story about you and they feel a real strong need to defend themselves against that and that that energy hasn't really existed in this family this extended family because of the nature of moving aboriginal original cultures away from their oral history into written history to divorce and distract and change and interrupt and disrupt the entire oral history process all of the things that kept that which in a sense was a soul family together they're all separated so essentially it's correcting that separation from source it is the whole system of domination control is about separating us from source from one another just separation, division from one end to the other and injecting this information about soul family back into the collective is correcting the most damaging division of all between us and our soul families and our DNA families it's all part of the same mix I like to think of it that your DNA family is a place where it kind of gives you a lot of programming and then you move into soul family because after 18 or some years you become independent so soul family is a place where you go and start searching your true divinity now the DNA family doesn't support it only unique special family that are open in spirituality practices and I tend to see this from parents that are spiritual or light workers but that's not as typical the typical family is more you do your materialistic world how your program and then soul family when you move away from that you go into the soul family and start to look within yourself holding up the mirror and then also start to connect with your divinity that's why soul family as Andrew said is more powerful when you are with your soul family because they hold each other's mirrors and helping each other how to communicate with others as you communicate to others you also communicating within yourself heart space allowing you to rise to a higher consciousness it's hard for you to do that with family because it comes with biases a lot of it and that's where it's much more difficult once you go out to the soul family you heal you master that and then you go back to your family and test it out how do you manage, how do you get along like Katie said when she talks to her father Katie I don't understand where you say she's okay with that before I'm sure she would get upset it would make her feel unloved but now she's like okay I understand I respect your space it's all good by me as long as I know that I'm good because I had psychology sessions with my soul family soul family is a safe place where one can come in knowing that I'm not here to harm you I'm here for open communication it's a psychology space pretty incredible opportunity for personal experience extraordinary actually quite extraordinary because you couldn't if you just randomly selected a group of friends which is quite often what happens you end up hanging out with our friends you're forming a little social group there what are the chances of that being successful if they're not soul family in the way that we're describing it's random, completely random with friends and this is typical okay this is why Andrew was like this is like the first time soul family is allowed because you're connected on a higher conscious level coming from a place of love when you have your friends you question each other's love trust and respect they're not loving themselves and then you've got other friends that don't love themselves so this whole cycle of gossip back stabbing occur and then you get hurt then you move on to the next one it's not overcome from a love unconditional love platform you see but it is and some people would say Chris that oh what you guys are doing soul family are nothing more than cult is not a cult okay if you want to say that then you shouldn't have friends like groupies or friends that you hang out with your social group your book club groups your cooking group then you can call that as a cult cult is anytime you gather people together but the connotation of that implies that there's a lot of negative activity that comes with it but it's not it's just a group of people are here to psychoanalyze each other in a safe loving space and not only that in cults you can observe the behaviour of cult and you can see where the usury is and I don't see any of it here because it's a co-creation co-creation so by agreement so you can't begin to compare the two situations but people like to judge on superficial elements they don't observe closely and before they judge in fact they really should be judging anyway but they do and they will jump to the conclusion quite readily and of course we're trained to do that because that's the way the media works you know examine things superficially jump to a conclusion label it and move on it takes a lot of self control and discipline a lot of discipline yeah well that's the thing there's there's a whole lot of elements to what's going on in the dynamic that aren't things that we are encouraged to embody throughout you know if you want to call it hmm the parenting that goes on and it goes in cycle unfortunately it doesn't ever go to the specifics cycle yeah we seem to have reached a new cycle this new point where this whole concept is actually possible, feasible and in fact desirable at this point in time the energetics are all pointing that way the shift in the planetary emphasis away from this old system to something new and in the case of you know well okay we know that the old system is going to fall away because it's done yeah so what's going to replace it what are we looking at and this is what's appeared in front of us and Chris I wanted to share some light for you you had asked Katie and Larry if there are a romantic couple there's a reason for you to ask at it is not your old paradigm asking that okay because what happened is Larry and Katie have basically worked a lot okay in communication and working on within themselves to a point where they clear a lot of old stuff and connecting at the heart chakra level because of that in unity okay now let's now that's where they are okay as a soul family without the sexual intercourse whatsoever okay now you look at a normal average couple a couple will go into a marriage when they have sex and all of that stuff that's where it's called love they connect at each other including a sex partner part okay but love has to exist between that too so when we go around and we meet people you can automatically feel it if they're a couple or if not and based on the energy where is that coming from it's actually coming from the heart chakra okay that's why we you automatically ask are you guys in a relationship because in your past you have seen most couple connect on the heart level because they are in a you know a romantic relationship whereas you know Larry and Katie they're in a soul family and already connected without the you know the sex that's why you ask that see the key here is connecting at heart chakra that's the difference with soul family that's the different and when you connect that you join in and Larry could be in Russia and Katie could still be in Seattle and they can continue to communicate with each other on the heart chakra without direct Skype phone or emails it's easy for them to connect at the heart level yeah it's just my that's the way it felt to me when I observed what was going on between just the interactions between them you know it felt like you know what I would consider to be an involved couple and you know this is just my learning path at this point in time I'm being exposed to something I've never observed before so new rules need to apply and it's actually the point you make there it's the connection through the heart chakra that I'm feeling when I see their interactions yeah because we're taught that way and it's okay to acknowledge that now you acknowledge it the next time you see a couple you're like oh is this a soul family connection you know or is this a romantic couple you're going to ask yourself those questions and you'll get your answer now you know how to decipher yeah and it means you'd have to observe closely if you needed to make that determination or you could simply ask them it's another way of doing it but it just means there's an extra question that you now have to actually mull over when you're sort of looking at what's going on around you and well that's just another part of a tapestry that's appearing yeah and when you say you ask questions you asking yourself it's almost like you are asking them you know face to face hey are you guys couple here you guys couple but instead of doing directly face to face and as you know it's not you know correct manner to go and ask people in their private business right but you're asking within yourself and then you give yourself answer no matter what you're still asking the question is do you do it out verbatimally directly up to them or you do it within yourself asking your high consciousness for the answer and that is where how another method of developing your intuition okay so it allows you to become more awakened by the practice we have to know but I actually had this last night I was having a conversation with some friends about who are who are light workers and they said to me are you asking the questions are you actually asking for the information and I shame facially had said well not often enough because they've actually told me many times you've got to ask those questions of yourself to get you actually have to ask them of yourself you know with intention of getting some information and yeah that's part of developing the personal intuition as you just said is to ask those questions because you will get answers they will come to you and the more experience you've got at asking and answering you know the better it will be yeah if you wanted to even carry further Chris then you can ask yourself why is it for you to eager to know that go within deeper peel those layers of onions why are you asking this question does it matter for you to know so your answer may be well it's for my learning experience and also practice an intuition oh okay thank you you always want to thank when you get the answer okay and then when you get it oh thank you good job and then you move on you always want to acknowledge that trust within yourself for the answers more of a more trust building. Nicky we've got some callers and if Andrew is still there do you still have any voice left Andrew? I barely have any voice left right now at this point in time I want to leave it to Larry and Katie to talk for the remainder of the show here no problem Andrew well hopefully you'll be back on deck on Tuesday for the next show we'll be good and so we'll leave you to recover and just enjoy the rest of the morning and Katie and Larry we'll press on with a little bit more in fact Nicky do you want to we'll take one or two calls because there's people that have been waiting here for a long time just help them as we can okay somebody has healing questions somebody is asking for healing every code 505 name your question please area code area code 505 okay we'll pop them back on hold oh hello is it Angelina yes sir yes this is her this is Angelina very good did you have a question for Nicky what kind of questions we could ask Nicky what questions would you like to take typical cookie cutter question is you know if something happened to you okay whether it's good or bad you want to ask what is the lesson in this for me okay what is the lesson that I look at mm-hmm and then the next question goes is yes so you want to say you want to ask that for example somebody yelling at you okay treat you and you ask what is the lesson in this you know is my then you ask yourself what have I done what did I say or do that may provoke this is it mine is this my energy or is it somebody else's energy if not then you say yes no yes no try to stick with yes no type of question and answer because it's much simpler okay because we are not our mouth cannot speak as fast as our mind and energy just think of it light versus speed of light is much faster than throwing a ball across the street so you want to question that and those are my favorite questions that I always like to ask what are my lessons and you know is this mine is this something that comes from me and how is it that I can do better okay and or how is it that I can do better in change the solution the outcome okay we ask regards to my life purpose or perhaps a blueprint I'm just curious because to be honest I feel like I can tell you right now that you need a lot I can tell you right now you need a lot of healing because my right leg is like it's cold right now you have imbalance of energies flowing through you and you need a lot of healing it's like you're inside your chest right now it's like screaming out loud all the way out like projection of energy like projecting through your the back of you your back like behind your scapula okay actually I feel a lot of tightness there yeah it's screaming right now yeah and it would be it would be easier for you to breathe okay and have more clarity once you clear this out okay you're in anguish that's the word anguish okay my right leg right now is cold cold ice cold okay so it means your flow of energy is not in balance okay and you and you got some a lot of emotional issues to deal with go and clean your closet basically and don't feel bad that's typical when you're human you got to go clean your closet part of routine so there's nothing to feel shame about that some people are they don't want to reveal that okay but don't be it's very normal everyone carries something with them and life is a journey you know you kind of I can't hear you broken off oh I'm sorry I said well you just can't feel too bad or guilty about things you've done no it's not about not feeling guilty you have to go in and why you are guilty it's not about do's and don't those things throw them out the do's and don't those in your vocabulary throw them out comb and ask why why is this happening why am I feeling guilty okay and that's how you peel the layers of onions and you go deep very very deep until then you find the root cause of the problem and then all things that should be there the do's and don't they just get released you don't work on I need to release this no it's about finding the root cause and everything that don't belong there won't get released on its own releasing is like forcing something that is not ready it's like a horse is starving so it's going to sit there and eat a lot of hay and you're trying to pull it away it's not going to go it's still hungry it needs to be fed until you realize that you let it get fed up he's folding you can take him wherever you want and he'll go with you that's the release okay well thank you you're welcome I guess your impression are you able to tell what I'm here to do or what I what I could give a service to people as a career that's where I'm like really career did you say career or creator you're breaking off I'm sorry career wise okay yeah well what do you like to do well I really like art I know that and I love the holistic healing art although right now I need more of that until I can actually get into that kind of thing but I really don't know what I'm here as far as career wise what I could do for people okay I'll tell you this much okay when we have free well we can change and we can be creative okay if you're if you want to go into healing art holistic whatever there's many ways of doing it okay but most importantly you have to go and clean yourself first because the first level of master heal is to clean oneself once you achieve that then you can go to the next level of cleaning others do you see what I mean yeah because if I give you too much you're going to be overwhelmed and then what it's called reverse psychology it happens all the time because what I if I have to tell you you're going to get overwhelmed and then you're going to delay the process so your job right now is to clean yourself achieve the master level one as a healer clean yourself okay through that cleaning process you will discover what you like and what you don't like because of free well you can say well you know what I made to be a teacher and you can like being a teacher for and doing that for two years and that's all you can handle because you're going to be like I want to do something else you see what I mean so you can have a multiple and then you mix once you get all of that skill set in different parts of life time okay then you can take that and use it to create something else more you see what I mean you can literally use art and holistic healing all in one it's called art therapy okay using your intuitive skills you see what I mean part of being human on earth is to have the human experience so you need to go and discover okay it's easy for me to spoon feed you but that beats the whole purpose of being here as a human being okay you can go and experience and enjoy keys to enjoy have fun and be thankful for the experiences and then you move on and then you move on you will realize wow I've earned my you know I've earned my degrees and fat you can be creative do whatever you want with it okay but for now considering art therapy if you like art and then you like holistic healing art therapy is great but there is a traditional way of doing art therapy but you can modify it and add a lot more intuitive stuff into it you see what I mean be creative okay thank you very much for your question we'll leave yep thank you very much we'll pop you back on hold and I think we have time for one more shortish call Nikki so we'll take the next caller area code 321 have your name and your question please hello my name is Patricia I'm sorry you caught me in the middle of eating that's okay Patricia I was just wondering Nikki just not really a general question but what is the best advice that you could give me right now what are you sensing okay what are you sensing okay can you tell me about how your day went what did you do this morning well I had a regular working day today and this morning I woke up to the alarm clock tried to process my sleeping time I didn't have much time to do that so I went to the bathroom and the shower and then came down stairs it took care of my little dog okay I got you thank you Patricia okay do you have a lot of stress at work at times I do and I don't what I'm going through right now is if I should be at a job at all I'm really feeling the strong pull towards the the higher dimensions I feel like you need some vacation time well I am and I'm going to Sarasota also I've gone to different events and something has felt right to me so far and I'm really feeling the strong pull I live in Florida so that'll be real convenient and what time do you have to be up in the morning when you go to work at 6 in the morning okay because I feel like you can sleep in a little bit more it's actually continuation of your dream time I don't know how your schedule is how you can rearrange it because you literally can go sleep even a little bit more tell about 9 o'clock 10 o'clock a.m. because you will still have your dream time and you're doing healing in your time okay this is how you access so I don't know how you can resolve your schedule the reason I asked you about with your stress at times because you feel like I don't want to get up I could be here more it's because you're doing a lot of dream time that's like activity everybody has a different time so a portal when they're opening portal time it's like your job you know your galactic job role is like at 6 o'clock in the morning well your job starts like 5 o'clock all the way to 9 and 10 a.m. yeah there's been a lifetime job hours that's when your portals are open well this is a longer has anybody reported dream time of seeing orange and like an orange gold yellowish castle uh... no everyone all have different job positions so it's going to be different experiences because your job is different everyone has a different experience but if you can this is important for you because you're not feeling fulfilled if you can try to make schedule stay in bed till 8, 9, 10 a.m. and then work maybe in the afternoon or something okay I know it's not it's not practical but but then your soul is feeling incomplete and your body is stressed out by that okay your body is stressed out by that so if you want to do quick energy galactic work hour you're welcome to get one of the cones or the disk it will actually help speed up the process much faster because it puts you in that quantum field that gets you there faster to do the job you know it's like saying if you meditate typically an hour to feel fulfilled when you meditate with these the nano disk 10 minutes is equivalent to an hour so imagine if that's the case then when you do your galactic dream time work that takes 10 minutes okay that's great thank you very much thank you for everything you do for everybody you're welcome thank you Patricia I'll pop you back on hold and Nicky we've got about 7 minutes left in the show and I'd first like to as a rapper but Katie and Larry are you still on the line with this oh yeah we're really loving it look I'd just like to thank you guys for sharing your experiences with us today it's been really exceptional and I wanted to share too about the tenanos that Nicky's talking about I use those I use those myself and absolutely what she says is my experience as well would you like to share about the lower entities that you had the experience with we had an individual to join the group we had to portal maybe a hundred entities in him and at one point or another we made the choice where we offered the choice to him to decide what he liked I want to write out of here so I gave him a write out of here and I had my phone with me and it was pointed at him and I don't know about after 15-20 minutes he wanted me to pull over to the side of the road he really really had to go add I don't know which number one or two but he went in the bushes so another 10 minutes is back to that not even 10 minutes down the road is more I go back out there and do it again and he was just feeling just horrible uncomfortable I couldn't figure out what what's wrong with me I don't know what to the matter with an hour ride to get to where we're going and by the time we got out and he was ready he was ready to go he's like I don't really want to hang out anymore thanks for the ride see you later bye and this was something that was intending to be a Klingon he was prepared for and housed and fed and everything else and he basically voluntarily decided the best thing for him was to leave and maybe Niki you can fill in why that experience occurred so much with the Klingon especially with the pointed at him yeah the Klingon will have effect on people who are possessed with these things and low entities and whether there are some humans that were being are as well being born as being demons yes they do exist this is not a joke I've done a lot with these cases and some people when I inform them they do not like to know the truth you know the truth will set you free and until then you continue getting sick a lot of people are being possessed or born as in that aspect will have diseases like lupus diseases that you can't cure okay and not some past life stuff being demons or really dark witches and things like that when they deal with that level because everyone here is born to have opportunity for ascension it doesn't mean you're a bad person it just means you are dealing with your own mirror you know you might have a lot of dark negative thoughts but it doesn't mean you're projected on other people you can still be kind and loving it doesn't mean you're a bad person I'm just saying that there are those that born in that so many times when these people entities included are exposed to this T-nano technology they hate it they don't like it and they will have the side effect of that is headaches stomach pain and they just can't stand the energy and if you keep pointing at it they are upset by demons the demons will come out and will they return Nicki or will they leave permanently they will leave but they will try to come back and if you want to have where the technology because I have pendants and dips you can wear them and protect yourself you have to and to get rid of them you have to require somebody who knows how to get rid of them but with love and compassion not with thought it's not how we do it but you can actually use the technology to assist that process yes you can get them out perform exorcism if you look at exorcism I mean traditionally you have a priest you know days and nights you know praying and blah blah blah it's like you don't need that literally like in 30 minutes you can perform exorcism without priests or anybody you just have to have them sleep on top of the cones and then for about 15 minutes then you put them in a sacred triangle made out of cones put them in there and bam and they'll float around they can't go back to the body because the body is such a high frequency so where will they go floating around go whatever or trying to find all the holes when they can and then come back because there is a contract between your soul and them that's why they come back and if they can't get back in will they eventually dissipate or leave permanently yeah they will leave permanently and send them to the light mm-hmm quite a project I've talked to people that have done house cleaning, clearing they call Archangel Michael what I've lift up the house there are different kind of demons and you need to know which kind what kind if you look at Solomon's seal those are the seals of all the different demons you have to know them identify their names call them out I do a short cut do you look at fast together quick it's because of who I am I'm a benevolent being because of that you override a lot of stuff it comes with great responsibility for that but people who are just I'm just a light worker I just wanted to do this as a profession then they have to do the long route they have to go through the process it's like saying hey I'm starting college freshman you can't just jump to PhD level you have to earn it and I've earned my part through many million years indeed well Nicky I think one of the things we can do in a future show is actually go into the Tinano technology a bit more because it is proving to be extremely useful in this particular time one question I have for you is that at some point there is going to be a big upward shift for the whole collective in terms of vibration at that point will most of these demons have to leave will they all leave or are they still going to be around they will have to leave they will have choices do you want to continue then you have to do your healing you have to do all your processing if not they are going to be vanquished somehow gone excellent well either way we won't have to put up with it by the sandwich which would be like the new earth right now they can't even go in there so they are going to stay behind this old earth and eventually the old earth is going to disappear where do you think they are going to go no way good stuff but everyone on this earth as long as you hold the human skin technology that comes with divinity in your heart chakra you have the opportunity to reach enlightenment and ascension big message there and Nicky we are actually at the end of the show at this point in time and I would like to first of all if Andrew is there and he has got any voice left at all Andrew thanks for coming on though and thanks for putting up with the scratchy voice and still contributing really appreciate it and hope you have a quick recovery yes he is smiling we can't talk give that voice a rest we will catch up soon and Larry and Katie again thank you so much for sharing no doubt we will hear from you again and continue to share the experience you are most welcome bye to everyone in the chat room it has been a really good show really interesting stuff going on really important stuff what is coming up for a lot of us and we will see you all at the next show on Tuesday 1pm sorry western Pacific time in the United States just to give you a framework there look out for it on the website and we will hopefully continue next week on next Thursday particularly with the the human instruction manual that you didn't receive when you were born and on Tuesday yet to be announced look out for it on the web page excellent stuff