 All right, good morning, everybody. Everybody have a name tag? Yes, that means everybody signed in. Okay, I think we'll start with a pledge and then we'll go and talk about what we're gonna do today. All right, everybody, come on in. Pleasure allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So I'm just gonna do some housekeeping stuff, explain some things, and then we'll get started. Can I just have a view of who the primary is and who the candidate is, are the primary and who is the other primary? And then council, council and council. Okay, all right. So on April 5th, 2022, the official election results for district 10 gave Joseph Heidemann total votes of 403 and Andre Wolton total votes of 402. After the Board of Canvassers met, there was one vote counted for Andre Wolton bringing the votes with tie. The tie was broken with a lot drawing of cards. Joseph Heidemann was declared the winner of district 10. The clerk received a petition of recounts on Monday, April 11th from Andre Wolton and we're here today to recount the ballots of district 10, wards 19 and 20. We are having the meeting taped so we can have a transcript of the proceedings. The microphones are there when green means we're on. And so if there's any side conversations, it'll pick that up. So if you have a conversation to have, if you could take it outside the room so that we can make sure we have a clearer understanding of what happened today. There are five different reasons why someone could object. The objection you need to come from the primary, the candidate or helpful, okay? And I'm gonna ask at different times as we go through things if there's any objections. So on Tuesday, there was a posting made with the recount petition that was sent out via email and that was also sent to the Board. The notice of the recount was sent to the Board and it was sent to each candidate. Actually, they came in and they signed for it. Are there any objections to the recount itself? Madam Chair, there is an objection by Mr. Heidemann to the recount itself. We believe that the statute is clear that in the event of a tie, the candidates are determined by lot according to state statute. And because both of them engaged in the selection by lot, the matter is settled, the winner's been declared. And we object to the continuation of a recount because it's out of time according to the statute. But like that objection recorded in the record. What are you, what's out of time? The recount is out of time because the winner will be determined by lot according to statute. The tie and the statute says that by lot, the candidates are selected and there's a winner. And that was done at the Board of Candidators and then you have three business days to request a recount. That action supersedes the ability to request a recount if you engage in the lottery itself. If you had not taken the lottery and you asked for a recount, this would have been in time but by going through the process of flipping the coin or I guess it was drawing up a card in this instance, the candidates agreed to the outcome and it settles the matter and Mr. Heidemann is the winner. And I'll let our attorney speak. So what I would suggest is that first we let the other council respond to that and then I will give my advice. Okay. Well, when you have a tie, somebody has to be able to ask for a recount. The statutes are clear that you have three days after the conclusion or certification I should say to ask for a recount. So everything is timely, everything should proceed. We're all dressed up and ready to go and we ought to do that. So my advice to Board of Canvassers is that you do not sustain the objection. The process under the statute does provide as was noted by Council for Mr. Walton, that when you have a tie, you don't have a winner and it does require a losing candidate to either file for a recount. And so not going through that process would be meaningless. You would render that portion of the statute meaningless and of course, we don't read statutes in ways that render them meaningless. Additionally, the drawing of the card is required to be done at the time of the Board of Canvassers meeting. That is also very clearly stated in chapter nine. There is no option for the candidates to not participate. Should they choose not to participate, it would have been done in any case. And so for that reason, my recommendation to the Board of Canvassers is that you deny the objection and continue with the recount. I vote we continue with the recount. Chair votes that we continue as well. Yes, I will talk about it. Thank you. All right, when we met last Friday, the Board of Canvassers is comprised of Peter Madden, Marjorie Giesen, and myself. Peter Madden could not be here at the recount today. So we have appointed Martha Leffenan to be part of the Board. Are there any objections to the composition of the Board? No objection. Again, the notices were sent out. The public was notified on Tuesday morning and that the Board has decided that we will hand count the ballots today. Are there any objections to those procedures? Okay, then today we're going to start the recount with word 19 and end with word 20. We have a checklist that the Board will follow is right out of the state manual. And we'll explain the procedure as we go. Please speak up if you have an objection and we'll go from there. So just to recap, word 19, the original vote total for word 19 was 277. The number of voters on the poll list was 277. We had 130 absentee applications and 110 absentee ballots cast and zero rejected absentee ballots. So first we're going to start with the poll list. We're going to go through the poll books. And just reconcile them comparing that each of our poll works. Poll books says the same thing. Yes. So I'll just have you guys start with A's and just be sure and then once you're done we'll go through the numbers and make sure they're documented correctly. A is page two. Do we need the full name? The voter name. Abershinsky. Patricia. Number six. Absentee. We'll do the absentee flag. Okay. Make sure that there's a number for each voter. On page four. Nothing on page three. On page four. Ostring. Danny's. Number seven. Ostring. Christine. Number eight. In the ease. Page five. Barbara. Michael. 242. Barbara. Terry. With an eye. 241. Nothing on page six. Page seven. Vine. B-E-I-N-E. Katie. Number nine. Vine. B-E-I-N-E. Steven. Number 10. Benning. Deborah. D-E-B-O-R-A-H. 156. Page eight. Benning. John. 153. Benning. Deborah. Number three. Benning. Richard. Number four. Berg. Jacob. 263. Berg. John. 248. Page nine. Berg. Kathleen. 249. Berg. Matthew. John. 262. Page 11. Bachman. With two ends. Number 11. Bachman. With two ends. Michael. Number 12. Brower. Anna. Number 13. Page 12. Brower. Kurt. Number 14. Kurt with a C. Brower. Dawn. One. I'm sorry. 230. Brower. Eric. 228. Brower. Jean. 15. Brower. Matthew. 16. Page 13. Brotz. Joseph. 17. Brotz. Renee. 18. Page 14. Brower. Renee. 18. Page 14. Bircham. 191. I'm sorry. Bircham Sheila. 191. Burkhardt. David. 258. Burkhardt. Haley. 171. In the seas. Page 15. There's nothing. Page 16. There's no voter. Page 17. Clarridge. Frank. 184. Clarridge. Maryland. 164. Page 17. Page 18. No voter. These. Page 19. Davis. Lauren. L-A-U-R-I-N. 275. Davis. Mary Beth. 19. Page 20. Decker. With two Ks. Bernard. 20. Decker. Lana. 21. Dillon. Berg. Thomas. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Dillon. Berg. Thomas. 2. 25. Page 21. Donath. Jane. 22. Donlan. Jane. 266. Donald. Mark. 265. Page 22. Dukel. Larry. 227. receives. Page 23. Eisner. Jay. 259. Eisner. Rosalie. Anti. stairway party. Rose Lee, 107, Ekblad, Anders, 240, Ekblad, Elizabeth, 243, page 24, England, Karen, 217, England, Robert, 218, F, page 25, Felker, Jean, 23, Felker, Richard, 24, Feudner, Bonnie, K, 25, Feudner, John, Charles, 26, page 26, Fisher, SCHER, Ernest, 27, Floriano, Anne, with an E, 28, Fosterling, Deborah, DEBRA, 234, Fox, Diane, K, 29, Fox, Thomas, 30, page 27, Fredricks, Mark, Allen, 195, Free, Billy, 181, Free, Catherine, 180, Friesinger, Galen, 83, G, page 28, Gendry, Lisa, Jane, 31, Gendry, Vicki, 36, page 29, no voter, page 30, Garza, Mary Lou, 37, Garza, Raul, 38, Gerhardt, George Jr., 219, page 31, no voter, page 32, Gamak, Aiden, 133, Gamak, Tom, Todd, 132, Godinez, Madeleine, 209, Godinez, Salvador, 210, Goldman, with two Ns, David, Goldman, Tamara, 245, page 33, Gomez, Jasmine, 40, Gossie, Susan, 199, Gossie, Thomas, 198, page 34, Bryce, Richard, 270, Rob Schmidt, Anna, 167, Rob Schmidt, Carrie, 166, Rob Schmidt, Eugene, 165, no voter, page 36, Grinke, Donald, 121, Hs, page 37, Hartman, with two As, Beverly, 41, Hartman, with two As, Ronald, 42, Paulbock, Rodney, 246, page 38, Hammond, Heidi, 276, Hansen, En, Gerald, 190, Harmelink, Larry, 208, page 39, Heinen, Carolyn, 255, Heinen, David, 256, page 40, Hemschmeyer, Betty, 160, Hemschmeyer, Charles, 159, Hendrixie, Carl, with a K, 125, Henning, Rosalie, 43, page 41, Herbert, Linda, 216, Herron, Beth, 152, Herron, Richard, 151, page 42, Hicks, Cheryl, 201, Hilbert Tower, Hauser, K, 44, Heinemann, Susan, 134, page 43, Hockwitz, Carolyn, 138, Heft, Albert, I'm sorry, Heft, Albert, 45, Harris, Daniel, 51, Holbrook, Betty, 235, page 44, Holmes, Patricia, 269, Holshu, Susan, 168, Horzen, Frank, 76, 46, Howard, James, 47, page 45, Howard, Patricia, 48, Hewens, Emma, 49, Hewens, Lisa, 179, Ikenauer, I'm sorry, page 46, Ikenauer, Kathy, 129, Jays, page 47, there's no order, page 48, Jets, Bradley, 223, Johnson, James, 207, Johnson, Jean, 206, page 49, Juntz, or Juntz, James, 50. Martha, would you like to read for a while? Sure. Okay. Page 50, Colk, Kelly, 196, Colk, William, 5, page 51, Julie, or Peller, Julie, 52, Kemp, Sarah, 53, page 52, Cleonis, Jean, 202, page 53, Colk, Gary, 254, Colk, Susan, 252, Colk, Zachary, 253, Kanaus, David, 185, Keeney, Miranda, 236, Kepsel, I'm sorry, page 54, Kepsel, David, 233, page 55, Melissa, Keele, Melissa, 54, page 56, Keele, Todd, 104, page 57, Labonte, Kathleen, 267, Labonte, Scott, 268, Lapigard, Nancy, 55, nobody on 58, page 59, Lafeber, Paula, 122, page 60, Lozing, Marlene, 143, page 61, Lori, Lisbeth, 204, Velvet M's, page 62, Maas, Noreen, 220, Majoral, Terrence, 57, page 63, Martinez, Adrian, 58, Martinez, Vicki, 59, page 64, Matelko, John R. Junior, 60, Maurer, Daniel, 144, Maurer, Susan, 61, McClure, Mulemans, Kathleen, 251, nobody on 65, 66, Meehan, Constance, 56, Merkel, John, 127, Mertzeg, Bruce, 161, page 67, Mulebrook, Linda, 62, Mulemans, Eric, P, 63, Meyer, James, age, 64, page 68, Sue, Meyer, 65, Miller, Marilyn, 66, age 69, Mohar, Michael, 164, Moylanen, Stanley, 67, Molider, Kenneth, 183, Molider, Lori, 182, page 70, Morris, Gerald, 140, page 71, Miller with M-U-E-L-L-E-R, Clarence, 141, Miller, M-U-E-L-L-E-R, Kimberley, 68, Novodron, 72, Hans, page 73, Nelson, Marybeth, 203, Nen, Barbara, 69, Neustel, Catherine, 70, Neustel, Larry, 126, Ninmer, Betty Lou, 71, page 75, Nucker, Gerald, 148, Nora, Audrey, 72, Nora, Elizabeth, 39, Nora, James Jackson, Sr., 73, Noak, Allen, 74, Novodron, 76, Malra, the O's, Olson, Narada, May, 75, Opca, North, Andrew, 76, Adi, Sheila, 139, page 78, I'm sorry, 78, yep. Now we're in the piece, 79, no voter, page 80, Patton, Melissa, 77, Patton, Nicholas, 78, Paulus, Michael, 172, Paulus, Stephanie, 173, Perce, Charles, 244, page 81, Peterman, Suzette, 79, Peterman, with two N's, Margaret P, 175, Peterman, two N's, Randall, 174, page 82, no voter, page 83, Locar, Louis, Los, I'm sorry, 176, Paul, Timothy, two, page 84, Puxich, Susan, one, no queues, page 86, Radke, Arthur, 277, Radschlag, Jessica, 80, Radke, Jeffrey, 205, Brackow, Don, 81, Raleigh, Holly, 271, Raleigh, Kyle, 231, no voters on 87, page 88, Reinbold, Joe, 154, Reinbold, Margaret, 155, Rhino, Barbara, 82, page 89, Rhino, Scott, 247, Richards, Eileen, 128, page 90, Rhys, Judith, R-I-E-S, 274, page 91, Rowe, Sandra Lee, 169, page 92, Grohl, ROHL, Sharon, 84, Resh, Rhonda, 86, Resh, Ricky, 87, Wrestler, Marlene, 85, Rose, Matthew, 261, Rosenthal, Benjamin, 213, page 93, Rosenthal, Diane, 158, Rosenthal, Stephen, 157. Now we're in the S's. Page 94, no voters. Page 95, no voters. Page 96, Schlichting, Schlichting Craig, 226, page 97, Schultz, Doris, 88, page 98, Shut, S-E-H-U-T-T, Patricia, 89, Cyple, Andrew, 90, Cyple, Kieran, 91, page 99, Shaw, J, 186, Sheeran, Patrick, 215, Sheeran, Susan, 214, page 100, Shersell, Brian, 194, Shersell, Judith, 145, Shersell, Richard, 146, page 101, Sixle, Stanley, 170, Soph, Safa, Paul, 239, Safa, Tracy, 257, page 102, Somerfeld, Jack, 124, Ronald, 162, Stampfell, James, 187, page 103, No voters, page 104, Stevenson, Lindsay, 135, now we're in the tease, page 105, Toffener, Barry, 92, Tellier, William, Wilma, I'm sorry, 142, 106, Tempest, Richard, J, 150, Tempest, Ruth, 149, page 107, Tim, Cynthia, 93, Tim, Helen, 94, Tim, Jeff, 95, page 108, Tim, Steve, 96, page 109, Tuttle, Frederick, 193, now we're in the use, page 110, No voters, now we're in the bees, page 111, Balanstein, Debbie, 119, Balanstein, Scott, 120, Van Waddingen, 124, Vanderwill, Matthew, 32, page 112, Van Dyke, Bruce, 229, page 113, Van Stell, Karen May, 97, Verveldi James, 130, Vadesky, 119, Broshnik, VRTO, CH, NICK, Agnes, 98, Broshnik, Frank, 99, now we're in the W, page 115, Wagner, Diane, 100, page 116, Walter, 138, Edward, 131, Walton, Andre, 34, Warren, Alexandria, 272, Warren, Allison, 273, page 117, Weber, Barbara, 250, Weber, Carl, 101, Johnathan, Weber, Diane, G, 102, Weber, Nancy, 103, page 118, Weidner, Jane, 260, Wyman, Teresa, 105, Wyman, Walter, 106, White, Justina Diamond, 35, 19, White, Nicole, 222, Wicca, Glenadine, 192, Widra, Janice, 108, Wield, Kevin, 189, page 120, Wilson, Diana, 109, Winkleman, Shirley, 110, Edward, 111, page 121, Wodec, Jean, 112, Woodard, Jane, 178, Woodard, Richard, 177, Wozniak, David, 188, Wright, Joanne, 147, No voters on 122, Wilson, 1 voter, Jean, Tau, Jean, X-I-O-N-G, and then Tau, T-O-U-A, 237, and on the page, 123, Y. Now we're in the Y's, page 124, Yang, Henry, Benjamin, 264, 125, Ybanus, Y-B-A-N-E-Z, Domingo, 113, Ybanus, Y-B-A-N-E-Z, Spring, 33, page 126, Yetzer, Anthony, 232, Yetzer, Leslie, 114, Now we're in the Z's, page 127, Zaluski, John, 115, Zaluski, Susan, 116, Zimbal, Jerry, 137, Zimbal, Jerome, 136, page 128, Zimmerman, Allen, 117, Zimmerman, Joanne, 118. Zail, 200. Is it? We're going to check the front page again to make sure that the total number of voters was documented. Marge, what is the total number? Last voter number was 277. Correct. Last page number of the voter was listed as page 86. Correct. I'll let you look. Yep, right here. Okay. The number of absentee... The number of absentee electors was 110. Correct. Okay, so both books match. Yes. So now we're going to go through absentee votes. We don't want to keep those yet. We will keep one book. Because one of us will have a book, one of us will have applications, and one of us will have envelopes. Okay. And so we're going to compare our applications with our poll books. You want the log and these, right? And the envelopes, yes. I don't necessarily need the log right now, but I need the applications. This is going to be the easiest way to do this with the book. Well, I think we're going to have to read again. Okay, but I'm saying is the book better in one place or the other? Okay. You have a book? The application. This one is what I wanted. This is rejected. All right. So this is a list of all the applications that we had for board 19. And we're going to have you just read and as you go and read, we're going to look at the envelope, which I can do, and then we're going to look in the poll book to make sure that there's an A under the poll book. Okay. So we're going to be in the A's. Nice to meet you. Certainly. I'm not going to tell you how to write it. Meredith. Nice to meet you. They sound like high energy. Good morning. Have you signed in yet? Sure. Thank you. If we do have a concern collectively with an envelope, would it be appropriate to set it aside? That's when you would object to that envelope from the side of the poll. Did we ever lose, it looked like it was recording the whole time and we just lost the picture? While I was recording I lost audio and video. Okay. Do we know when we lost audio? I don't know exactly what we heard is it is now recording and then it went black. Well I mean we have a minute take or two of that. Did you guys read an even number of names? Pardon me? We were just a little shy at the time and I felt a cough coming on and I thought I'm going to pass the torch. I've got stuff in my pocket. It's amazing how fast your voice will go if you're not used to speaking loud. Unless you do it a lot it's coach's voice. I remember when I would coach my kids it's like you develop that coach's voice. Well I said a lot of duties at the holding pole you're used to using your voice. I don't use my very often I'm not a very good outside voice. Which is one of our issues. And teachers. That's going to say that's going to say I'm on to the laboratory and I'm going to get my mother in the spring. I just want to see if it's okay. I think so. So it's to bring it? Yes. Oh yes, City yes, sorry. Yes, sorry. Whatever comes off and then it's City yes. Thank you. Just a question. Signed by a witness. I would allow you to I think we should just do it right away. Okay, all right. All right, is everybody back and ready? We would like to start and take a break a little later. That's okay. Thank you. All right. So we already did Patricia and Patricia. These can be out of order. So we do the next one. Just a reminder, the microphone is running. So if you're having side conversations, it's picking it all up and it's locking the ability to transcribe. All right. If we could just any side conversations, if you could take them outside so we can hear and it's on the record. No. String Danny leaves. String. No. Any taxi A offers, lady Kristine with a toast. Vine B I B B I N B I T noted. mesure A eight bloated. Mind B tire and E Stephen J. voted. Benning B and I knoted Brockman with two N oh Mary B our a C H M E voted. Brockman with two A's. Does that mean we're good? Yeah, they're they just came in just to make sure that everything. Oh, okay. Thank you. Brockman, B, R, A's. That's okay. They have to be able to see. Yeah, they have to see. B, R, A, C, H, N, A, N, N, 3. Yeah, you guys should be like 3B, I think. Yeah, just. Well, I mean, but 3 people can, they're gonna have to look. 3 from each side. 3 from each side should be looking. Right up. Everyone else should speak. Everybody else should speak back. Yep, sorry. Okay. All right, so we're on Michael Brockman. Brockman, yes. Voted. Okay. Brower, B, R, A, U, E, R, Anna Marie voted. Brower, B, R, A, U, E, R, Kurt with a C voted. Brower, B, R, A, U, E, R, Jean voted. Brower, B, R, A, U, E, R, Matthew voted. Brotz, B, R, O, T, Z, Joseph voted. Brotz, B, R, O, T, Z, Renee voted. Bufler, B, U, E, C, H, L, E, R, Michael. I thought they didn't vote. B, U, E, C, H, L, E, R, Michael did not vote. Yeah, so that's somebody that we had an application for that did not return their ballot. Okay, now we're going to be in the D smart phone. Davis, D, A, B, I, S, Mary Beth voted. Decker with two Ks, Bernard voted. Decker with two Ks, Lana voted. Um, just a second. I believe one of us can say it, but I think when they're out by ballot went in the wrong column. Decker, the only one that should be out is Bufler. There was no, there was no, that did not vote, so there was no envelope, okay? So we had Bernard, Decker, and then Lana, and then Lana, right, and now we're on, so which, which... I think we're good. Okay, there was no, so the one that was the, um, Bufler, there's just no envelope. Yeah, I remember that. I thought one came from this column, just kind of split over. Okay, we're good. Are we okay? Jane, that's right. Okay, are we good though? We're good. Is everybody okay? Okay, okay. Jane, Donaf, G-O-N-A-T-H voted. Durkey, D-U-R-K-E-E, Yvonne, did not vote, did not vote. So that's, this is the next one, but this is, yeah, it's kind of confusing because we'll have at least 20 that didn't vote. England, Karen, E-N-G-L-A-N-D voted. England, Robert, voted. Could be asked for an explanation of the red. Yes. So this, um, ballot came in and when it came in, it came in on the 5th. We can contact voters to see if their envelope is incomplete for any reason. We've been given the authority to do that. The person did not buy the state. Um, the person did not respond right away. So we were going to send it to the polls with a rejection, but we didn't have until eight o'clock that night to be able to correct it. And that person called back and we have the address of the witness. So that made it okay. Is the authority statutory to contact the voter or was that a guidance provided by WACS? It's WEC. I think it was, they had six months. It's the guidance is up in June from what I understand. Yeah, it's WEC. Okay. That should be flagged. That's why I think I want to object to it. So can you put in that separate file? Yep. Madam clerk, do you mind if we just take 10 seconds and write that down? Robert England. And England is in the country? Yes. And Madam clerk, are you okay if we call you that? Sure. Okay. Um, Robert first name. Okay. I just want to show proper respect. Is there a number of that? So the voter number is 218. And I'm sorry, the details, Dan, that you want me to write down. So that's fine. Is that enough? Okay. Thank you. We can. Herb, Stacer, E-R-B-S-T-O-E-S-S-E-R, Daniel. It's not this one, but not voted. Felker, F-E-L-K-E-R, Jean voted. Felker, Richard voted. So these are different envelopes because they voted in person. Yep. So they're absentee in person. Feudner, F-E-U-D-N-E-R, Bonnie voted. Feudner, F-E-U-D-N-E-R, John voted. Fisher, F-I-S-C-H-E-R, Ernest voted. Floriano, F-L-O-R-I-A-N-O-N, with an E voted. Fox, Diane, K voted. Fox, Thomas voted. Gandrie, Lisa, Jane. I'm sorry, Martha. I should just tell you that we're switching your alphabets. Voted. Gandrie, Vicky voted. Garza, Raul, Mary Lou, Mary Lou, Garza voted. Raul, Garza voted. Gerhardt, George, Jr. voted. Gomez, Yasmin, Correct, voted. Grohl, G-R-O-H, Beverly, did not vote. Hartman, with two A's, H-A-A-R-T-M-A-N, Beverly voted. Hartman, Ronald, voted. Harrison, Gregory, Henning, H-E-N-N-I-N-G, Rosalie. Hilbert's, Hauser, K, Haft, H-O-E-F-T, Albert voted. Horsen, Frank voted. Powers, James voted. Powers, Patricia voted. Hewens, Emma, Catherine, with a C, voted. Now we're in J's. Juntz, James, and K's. Carries, K-A-I-R-Y-S, Roberta Evelyn, did not vote. Kaker, Constance, did not vote. Karal, K-A-R-A-U, Candice, did not vote. Kauger, K-A-U-G-E-R, Marvin, did not vote. Still in the case, Keller, Julie, Ann, voted. Kemp, Sarah, with an H, full K-R-O-L-L, Christine, Keel, K-U-E-H-L, Melissa, voted. And the L's. Lapigarde, Nancy, voted. And the M's. Moss, with two A's and two S's. Noreen, voted. Magero, Terrence, voted. Martin, Kevin, Robert, did not vote. Martinez, Adrian, voted. Martinez, Vicki, voted. Matelko, John R., Jr., voted. Maurer, Susan, yes. So they were contacted by phone. To provide the address. If you wouldn't mind setting that aside for now, ma'am. Do you mind if I just write the name down so we can come back to it, please? Yes, John. Conventional way of spelling, John. Yes. Oh, I'm terrible at names. M-A-T-E, L-K-O. L-K-O. Junior. And what voter number? Number 60. And I'm just so that when we can sidebar with council, was that one of those situations where they, someone here called and said, hey, can you fix this? Okay, I'll just make that in my notes in a moment. We'll figure it out. Okay. Maurer, M-A-U-R-E-R. Susan, voted. Melcher, Nancy, Anne, did not. Milbrook, Linda, that's M-E-U-L-B-R-O-E-K. Ann, voted. Manda, Milbrook, did not vote. Muleman's M-U-E-L-E-M-A-N-S, Eric, voted. Meyer, M-E-Y-E-R, James, voted. Meyer, Sue, voted. Miller, Marilyn, Moylan, and Stanley, voted. Miller, M-U-E-L-L-E-R, Kimberly, voted. Nan, and E-N-N, Barbara, voted. Netser, Clifford, did not vote. Netser, Patrice, did not vote. Neustel, Catherine, voted. Ninmer, Betty Liu, voted. Nora, Audrey Hart, voted. Nora, James Jackson, senior, voted. Nowak, Allen, voted. Please. Allen, A-L-L-E-N, Nowak, N-O-W-A-K, voted number 74. And that was another call situation. And number 74. I'm sorry, thank you. Nowak, Janice, did not vote. Kevin, Narda, May, voted. Opkinorth, Andrew, voted. And P-E-S, Patton, Melissa, voted. Patton, Nicholas, voted. Persinger, Nelda, did not vote. Peterman, Suzette, voted. P-U-E-T-Z, Santina, did not vote. Ratslog, Jessica, Rackow, Dawn, voted. Rhino, Barbara, Richter, Donna, did not vote. Real, R-O-E-H-L, Sharon, voted. Resh, R-O-E-S-C-H, Rhonda, voted. Resh, R-O-E-S-C-H, Ricky, voted. Esses, now I'm on phone. Schultz, S-C-H-U-L-T-Z, Doris, voted. Schultz, S-C-H-U-T-T, Patricia, voted. Cyple, S-E-I-P-E-L, Andrew, voted. Cyple, S-E-I-P-E-L, Carrie, K-E-R-R-I, voted. Sherman, Karina, did not vote. Talfener, T-A-U-F-E-R-N-E-R, Gary, voted. Tim, T-I-M-M, Cynthia, voted. Tim, Helen, Tim, Jeff, voted. Tim, Steve, voted. Van Watten, Jen, Kate, Ziple, who's just missing. Anyone want to write this down, counsel? That's fatal. Two just as a backup. Why don't we, and then we can just come back to it. What's the number, please? 244. Number 244? Or 224. 224. And then the name of the voter, please? Kate. As in K-A-T-E? Yes. Van Watten, B-A-N-W-A-T-T-I-N-G-E-N. Who gave her that last name? Holy cow. What are we writing down, Meredith? Missing Ziple. That's the only issue? Oh. Okay, well, we'll come back to that, right? I'll just set it aside. Van Steele, Karen, then S-T-E-L-L-E. Rochnik, B-R-T-O-C-H-N-I-C-K, Agnes. Voted. Good job. Huh? Good job. What's saying these letters? Rochnik, Frank. She was very good at all. Don't talk to her. She's in the whole presence. Wagner, W-A-G-N-E-R, Diane, voted. Weber, Carl with a C. Voted. Weber, Diane. One second. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, it says G-N-E-L-S. I'm sorry. That's okay. Are we good with this one? Somebody assigned as the assistant as well when they can't sign for themselves. So somebody helped. Well. It looks like. That was just to get the last one. Okay. It looks like a family member. Well, the witness is Weber. Yeah. You good? Council? I'm good. You good? Diane. Weber. Voted. Nancy. Weber. Voted. Wyman with two Ns. Teresa. Voted. Wyman. I'm sorry. Another address. So set this one aside. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Teresa. G-H-E-R-E-S-A. Yes. Wyman. W-E-I-M-A-N-N. Voter number 105. Issue. Badra. So the witness. Missing. Yes. By the clerk's office. And you called? Yes. And that's one of those like we had before. Another one. Walter. Yeah. Walter Wyman. Yeah. Walter Wyman. Yes. Voted. I bet he knows Teresa. Yes. There. Did you get her? Walter is voting. Yes. Correct. Correct. What number was that one? 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 106. 107. 106.为什么. White. Jonathan? Voted. White. Nicole. Wydra WIDRA Janice? Voted. Wilson W I seriously Diana? Voted. W-I-L-S-I-N-G Diana voted Winkleman W-I-N-K-L-E-M-A-N Shirley voted Vodak W-O-D-A-C-H Edward voted Vodak Jean voted Ibanis Domingo one moment then the Y sorry Yep Okay, so this one came in and it was we came from the post office like this So we contacted the voter and it was up to the voter on what they wanted us to do With the ballot if they were comfortable with them and explain what happened and the voter I talked to him Was it okay? We don't look in it. We just said this is it was sliced. I mean if that would have been they would have remade it at the Yes, yes, there was a ballot in there Yes, shabuigan, Wisconsin was added Domingo D-O-M-I-N-G-O first name or is that this first name? That's his first name. And I'm guessing with Okay So Y-B-A-N-E-C is the last name Ibanis Domingo D-O-M-I-N-G-O So we tried to call him left a message he called back. And then so this isn't definitely fine It's the same way whether or two labels one on top of the other. It's just like all of them. I see them There's not another label on them. Okay, so Did you sign in? Okay, Cheryl, can you So Meredith, so and counsel you just Where you came in and go In our office somebody This was not a call. This was a you physically signed it Just put in shabuigan. So just so I have this right Domingo Ibanis number 13 and definitely confined as a Missing address Yes, but there was a call back. It was a call back. Well, yeah, because you talked to him was called He was called about the slice And he says okay, and he said okay, you didn't forget the Jimmy John subs And sometimes we send these back, you know if they want if they don't come forward that we send it back He said it was okay to process I Mean I it looks like it was sliced all the way through but this is seal I mean it's sealed throughout the So I'm not sure what happened. Yeah, and this was There was a valid in there So that was Domingo, okay, okay. Yes, sir YET ZER Leslie Zalewski Cale WSKI John Zalewski Susan voted Simmerman that's CIMM ERM a n Allen voted and Simmerman Joanne CIMM E. R. M a n So I will have you call it your check mark I know I'm sorry. I know what wait once I Seventy-six and seventy-seven seven before was no wax. Let's probably Seventy-six and seventy-seven. I don't Not that it looks like I don't know though Not before you just want to make sure Dan's involved in this Dan is our lead How do you want to work it out with the car that we come back and go over See all this I guess anything no, but Can you assist in what we do with the objective? We need to address that before we open the ballot Yes I'm not even counting At least have two sounds like a good Yes, we'll have to count them for a total Can we get a calculator here Um Being recorded Yes, we okay. I'm sorry. We have 110 envelopes. We have 110 voted off our Applications, and we have 110 that is in the poll book Recorded for absentee ballots that were counted on election day. We did we have any rejected? Where's the rejected envelope so they did not want the inspector statement. Yes, we should probably check the inspectors No ballots in the rejected envelope from election night board 19 And on the inspector statement, they have number of absentee ballots counted as one time I'd said that in the years my thing we had counted those Applications we had one Induction just 20 people For both a copy of the clean version of that list that you started off with as well as a copy of the marked I just don't know that we have a clean I mean you can reprint that's printed off it came up Cheryl do you have that written down? version of What do you have applications? And then a mark copy the one that we marked and that was by who made the request Kevin Scott You're the primary primary breath, and then the council Same thing It was just a list that was printed off of the absentee applications for ward 19 Anybody that had a request for a valid We did we print this we print this all right, okay, so that's what we just did all right Yes, this is gonna be part of the reason So you've set aside a number of ballots Confirm whether they are being objected to or not before we before we act on them, so We might have just walked through one at a time Okay, and then whether or not there is an objection and from the objection is made Are you referring to the eyeballs? Yes. Yes So the first one was Robert England Is there a formal objection to this? For us before we answer that question that's up to the board Yes We can take a five-minute break There's seven Seven that we're set aside you want five minutes It's five minutes Yes, five minutes sufficient. Okay. Can we see them? Yes Can we have a bath? Yes, go Really appreciate it. No problem. Yeah, no problem To 20 so 1027 oh my gosh, I can't write anymore You Could ask we could ask or would you like recessing? Yeah, you shouldn't make a comment This is not a question that they would need to be in this is just a generic question So your clerk's office this request Has to come for them to request the absentee ballot Do they call your office? Do they sense they have to do it writing? Okay, and all it has to be done in writing and then you verify that that's who they are and then you send it to that address, okay? And then after that it's out of your hands if they choose to return in which That's not your job to go babysit a hundred and thirty people But and then I'll wait for this question when everyone's here. Yeah, as far as calling So just just another generic question So with the guidance from this is a totally separate has nothing to do with this when the nursing home stuff here in Shiboy again Because there were no sports special voting deputies did your office just like Give them like 20 ballots and say we'll be back in a week or how did you guys handle that 2020? And this is not to set you up or anything in 2020. They were mailed. They had to have a request. They did we don't yes Yeah, you just don't willy-nilly drop off. Yeah, there's no ballot. That happened a lot Yeah, there's no ballots so they still have to request one. Oh, yeah, everything has to be done in writing So let's say you and I are married and he's my grandpa and he wants one you and I come to city hall request it It's sent to the nursing home correct, but they can they can do it by mail or I mean, right? Yeah, because way too many nursing homes this well here's 20. We'll see it next week. Oh, yeah, that's inviting trouble So that still had to happen Except you didn't have the two special voting deputies go there in person to witness and make sure they were coherent and cognitive True but they have to make sure that you and I aren't feeling his ballot out the special voting So what was the final it was a 269 to 269 what was the total the type boat? Oral this 403 each or all three for the district So 403 so that would be 200 per person or all three each They both got four or three. I'm sorry I do I wrote them all down and their name Oh You know what I mean This is aboard It's 1027 we can let them know we can thank you No, we don't he was down one time Oh So what I would suggest right now you just have ballots that are set aside and I would suggest that you read each one and then ask if there's an objection to them if there's no objection then We'll continue as if they were part of the original file and if there's an objection will have each side State either the reason for the objection or you know The objection made by the other side and then We'll have the board of canvassers make a determination On the ballot now obviously it is only a an envelope It's not the ballot itself And so one thing that's that's important to note is if at some point the board of canvassers determines that There should be a rejected vote because of the application what will end up happening is a random draw of the absentee ballots out of there, so there's no way to Actually match up the vote to the envelope being rejected The ballot out of there before the count begins again, so that's I think that's an important thing to know Council for the record could you ask that your term monology of ballot refer actually to the ballot versus the envelope Sure, so yeah, so for the record. We're looking at objections to the envelopes. Yeah Okay Clarification so it's your wagon doesn't mark the back of the ballot with the number from the absentee envelope Some do some don't it's mystery. You don't okay, so the ballots are not marked or identified with respect to their eyes They're identified as an absentee ballot, but not a number numbered so you can't match the ballot to the envelope All right, so the first one is Robert England I'm just gonna ask if there's an objection to Robert England's ballot or envelope. I'm sorry envelope Thank you telco John Michelle co is there an objection Mr. Sean Alan no act Kate van Watten jinn very good Teresa Wyman Walter Wyman no Domingo Ibanez. Thank you No For the record the proof of following guidance from the hospital elections committee correct That's procedure with respect to filling in parts of the ad Can I ask you a question? I'm not with either one of the two parties. I'm just an independent observer We answer questions up to the board up to you the people who have the privilege of the floor are the three from each side Yeah, would I be able to object to those? No, the three people can object to them, which is the primary the council or the candidates Thank you. You're welcome All right, the bag Cheryl Thank you All right, so Ward 19 ballot bag with an inspector statement. Yeah, so Sir person that asked if you could could you just give me your name, please? Thank you, we just have everybody else's name that said Verify that the seal is on here. It's one one four five seven three two. That's correct Open since election night. This bag has not been It's one one four five seven three two. Thank you, madam clerk Okay, so the plan is to open the ballots and count the ballots together the whole total of the ballots and compare that to the tape And then we will separate out the absentee Balance so if we're looking at this number Balance one for 19 We weren't able to we have a clear cast machine he asked what machine That ESS Dominion, it's clear ballot. Oh, we are the yes. Yes, you're one of the only Yes And what was the model number, please of the clear ballot machine and if you don't have that madam clerk Where's the inspector statement? It is on the inspector statement All right, the machine serial number is C as in cat C as in cat D as in dog zero four One nine zero three one zero five. Thank you, madam clerk. You're welcome All right We're just We're not we're not yes, so you don't really unless you are looking at our We're not looking if they are so we're just putting them in Oh This is what tape prints out at the end of the night And at that that word is that polling location is district 10 actually it's 19 and 20 So 19 is on the tape and then And then a grand total of all the ballots that went in With Mr. Reminder, there's a lot of side Quietly at the table it will not necessarily get picked up and your conversations on the side mate So just let the people at the table speak, please. Thank you and real quick if you don't mind What was the time stamp on the bank? On the night of the electric just a time stamp It is not just that it's sealed though. So no time stamp. Thank you Yes Sometimes there's a machine that you can record a vote Without necessarily doing a ballot. Is there any of that or all ballots? Do you know what I'm talking about? Is it are you talk like an 88 machine? We have a clear access machine that actually if we vote on that machine Okay, so all ballots these are all ballots would be in here. There's not any electronic ballots that are with the clear ballot machine and that that Ballot is correct. So it would be a ballot Put the same size. Yeah, it prints exactly the same Yes This is We're not checking the word number. We're just counting I Yeah, yeah, they're all 19. So make sure there's no 20 Make sure that it says 19 on the back Because they all went the same pot Yeah, I'm just gonna explain so 19 and 20 wards go in the same bucket at the end of the night and They are tasked after the end of the night to separate them into 19 and 20 so So when you counted how many 277 and we had we hadn't counted each other stacks, but we had two more So we're gonna count again looking at the word number For 20 ballots one second Are we done counting before we start crossing these have been counted in shafts so that's another 50 100 150 200 250 and 27 make 277 Which is what the tape say? And that was the instructor statement says March Yes Cheryl can we put these by them? So you just take the record what group that how many ballots you've got that were worth 20 and what you're going to do with Okay Well you guys can come up and look and then I'll show them to the other candidate The ballot the word number is here Okay, they should just stay in Ballot bag though we'll have to insert those into the word 20s ballot bag Well, we should make a note of There's no number on them What was that number from 20 that got commingled how many just like to two ballots in the 19 day Thank you So well at the end there's one machine at the polling location And it's for district this was for district 10 which was 19 and 20 at the end of the night at 830 at night People go through and they do That's with the 800 ballots and two of them ended up in the other wards bag and I ask a question sure if there were There were two put into one bag is there another bag for the other See some in that bag. Yes There could be and when we get to 20 if there are I guess, you know, your numbers coming out of 270 Yes, and we will verify those Yes, yes The 277 does not include those two We all good with Now we're going to go through them and take out the ones that have initials for absences. Okay, so on the back If they're going that's got a MD MD or an emcee see okay, they will be separate Separated So we're separating the absentee ballots from the regular ballot on election day It's up to you if you want to look at what we're doing with the initials That's how we're determining if it's an absentee ballot or not On on election night There are two inspectors that sign the back of the ballot on absentee ballots the clerk Initials That's one thing but if they had to remake it on election night or something like that we might not be able to tell Okay, so there were no remade ballots Anything This is our remade so if there was an absentee ballot that they would have to remake The original would be in here So it's zero this one was done at the nursing home By our SBDs, so it's a it's still an absentee ballot, but it's initial differently We didn't notice anything in the full books that's that occasion we do indicated in the full books if there was but there is no spoil ballots Okay, yes, we're gonna come to grand total of the absentee we agree 25 50 75 100 110 Is that what it says in the full book? Is that what it says on the inspector log? Yes, so many envelopes we've had. Yes, everything matches Okay All right now we're gonna look at the ballots so now as we sort So as we sort I think we're going to have you look in Whatever pile they go in we're sorting by candidate And if there are any objections at that time and then we'll count them Okay So we have we're going to sort into four piles of pile for yeah, yes, please this especially Joseph Heidemann Andre Walton if there are any write-ins and if somebody chose not to vote for a Person as well We have to do one by one so that there's any objections to them right so one March just kind of hold it up So on this one it's the bottom one so for Joseph Yeah Joseph Joseph, yes, if somebody can't see let me know this is how we're gonna try to do it Andre Andre Andre Joseph Sorry Yes, we're gonna sort first and then put them in piles from the tape how many under-votes were there for this race? Seven it looks like Andre You're great Andre Andre Joseph Andre Andre Andre, Andre, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, no vote, Andre, Andre, Andre, Joseph, a write-in, a write-in. The name is there written in there? Joseph Reinhold? Humble. Humble. Okay. Reinhold. A write-in. A write-in. No, that's a write-in. Thank you. Andre, Joseph, Andre, Joseph, Andre, Joseph, Andre, this one, this one, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Andre, Andre, Joseph, Andre, Joseph, Andre, Joseph, Joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, andres, andres, joseph, joseph, andres, andres, joseph, novel, joseph, andres, joseph, joseph, andres, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph, joseph Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph, Joseph. That's my left arm too, it was my left arm. You're a lefty person. No, I'm not a lefty person. Joseph, yeah. That would be strong. Joseph, Joseph, Joseph. You see the unmarked of the mobile balance just to project the circles of all three of those to make sure there's nothing colored in. I don't want to touch the color. Oh, you want to touch the color? Oh, you want to touch the color? And we still have these to go? Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. Do you want to wait until we're done? Yeah, that's fine. Okay, that's okay. Nope. Absolutely with spots. So, I'm okay. I wouldn't have done it. I know. Oh my God, it's my Fitbit too, yeah. Look at how many steps I've gotten today. I'm sitting there. Oh, jeeter. Joseph, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph. No vote. Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph. No vote. Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph. No vote. Andrey, Andrey, Joseph. Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph. Joseph, take a vote. This is one vote. Joseph, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey. Andres. Andres. Andres. Andres. Andres. Andres. Andres. Nogo Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Joseph, do that. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Noble, Andre, Jocelyn, Andre, Andre, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Andre, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Andre, Andre, Andre, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, Jocelyn, like these laid out. So I'm going to give the, I'm going to take Andre's and start separating them in piles of 25. If you would take Jocelyn's, it would be easier if I just laid them out there if you all want to look at them. Or I can put more on this side and four on that side, however they are. Yeah, yep. What's the total Dan? Is it six or seven? Seven. Seven, got it. I'm going to recount what she counted in stacks of 25. I want to personally thank my kindergarten first. All right. So this is the pile. So you're just doing a tally mark on how many stacks of 25 you have. Okay. So this is the stacks for Jocelyn's vitamin. So how many stacks? About 25. Four of them. So just in this. And then you can total what you have and then you have an extra stack. So four of 25. Do you need a calculator? I just feel like... So that's 100. And then you have your random, your other stack. That's not 25 that you need to add in. Which was the little pile? 24. And that's just Ward 19. That's just Ward 19 for, and that was for Joseph Heidemann. I've never heard of it. And the same thing for Andre Walton then. You're going to tally. I'm sorry. What was the total? 124. A little stack is 19. What are you using a phone? The calculator. Oh, sorry. Okay. Here what you needed. That's okay. 24. And then we have two ballots. We're right in. Yep. And on the tape for Ward 19. Older person district 10. Heidemann, 124. Walton, 144. Right in two. Yes. Any objections to anything we just did? Just to clarify. The 110 absentee ballots were commingled with the same. We just separated them to count them to match them. Thank you, Maddo. You're welcome. They're not counted separately. Ward 19. Did you want to. There were no provisional ballots, which for either one of the wards. Correct. There were no votes for this. They voted for other things maybe. But the numbers on those sheets are. Plus the two. No, well, if we would add this plus this, yes. So we counted all the ballots and that's what we counted initially, which was the 277, but broke it down for the all dramatic race, which. At seven no votes. So we could count one. Do you want to add this for them? Please March on the calculator or Martha, one or 124 plus 144. Plus two plus seven equals 277. Winner winner chicken dinner. All right. That's one word. We want to. Take a break before we do the other one. What do you guys think? It's 1130 or do you want to start doing the poll books and then take a lunch break? We can do the book. We'll do the book and then we will take a break. So. Yes. I don't know that I want to secure it until there's any questions when we. You want to secure it first or is that there's some questions. 20. I think. Because they were all in one place. So. You can't secure them yet because. There might be 20. Right. So we'll put them. We'll put the ballots and back in the. Yeah, we're not going to seal it yet just because of. 20 that we took out the two that we took out of 20. Okay. You want the tape. With inspectors. You're right. Here. Could you fold that up? We're going to need it again for war 20. But. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right here. There is anything else you need to get it out of there. So, I know we made first. Oh sure. You want to be your. I'll read. And I'm going to. Different. Okay. I'm going to take this. We read first. Yeah, you could do all this stuff. Yes. Okay. But I need to read first. Yeah. All right. the page. So Ward 20 is in the city of Schwagen. The original vote total was 548. The number on the poll list was 549. There was one vote added to the total vote at the board of canvases. So that made it 549 as well. There were 169 absentee ballot applications. The number of absentee ballot cast was 141. However, we added one at the board of canvases, canvassers as well, which brought it up to 142. There were two rejected absentee ballot envelopes at this board. So that's the summation of Ward 20. And we're just going to reconcile the full books now. All right, we're going to start with a page to A-Home Richard 45. A-Home Sandra 46. Atamavich David 423. Yes. Aldeig Robert 44. Yes. Aldeig Sandra 43. Yes. Page 3. Ayres Brian 56. Yes. Page 4 Ayres Peggy 22. Yes. B. Edward... I haven't even stuffed on that. Sorry about that. Bajic. B-A-J-C-D-Y-K. Edward. That's an Irish name isn't it? Bajic 209. Jillian Bajic 210. Yes. Joseph, I'm sorry, Valkitis. Joseph 454. Yes. Barrow Dennis 179. Arson Debra 172. Yes. Page 6. Baus Kathleen 195. Baus Vernon 194. Beek Frederick 190. Page 7. Beek Juanita 189. Birchmans Danielle 57. Bergen Karen 213. Bergen Paula 456. Bergen Thomas IV 218. Bergen Debra D-E-B-E-R-A-H 58. Yes. Page 8. Berkshals James 153. Berkshals Kevin 539. Berkshals Patricia 154. Berlin Jamie 212. Vickler James 41. Page 9. Bowen Stengel Henry 232. Bowen Stengel Jane Caroline 231. Boren James 174. Boren, Maryland 173. Page 10. Bolle Duane 59. Borth Lynn 233. Battelle Debra 61. Battelle Timothy KB 78. Bowen Floyd 79. Bowen Sharon 80. Page 11. Brower Nancy 81. Bryrather Sandra 82. Brickley Leo 8. Page 12. Brookins Barrow Robinette 254. Brots James 34. Page 13. Brown Steven 29. Brown Thomas A-505. Brulla Matthew 543. Page 14. Broombauer Dennis 377. Broombauer Sandra 376. Brussie Allen 159. Buckley Ross Shane 455. Page 15. Budnick Kathleen 83. Madrecki Elmer 84. Berksh Kathy 514. Berksh Michael 319. Burkhard Jim 184. Page 16. Bush Cynthia 26. Bush Jeremiah 27. Page 17. No voters. C. Canora Catherine 85. Cantral Chad 484. Page 19. Chaffee Kenneth 165. Chaffee Sandra 166. Church Rodney 252. Page 20. Church Sharon 251. Clark Connie S. 433. Clark Sean Q. 434. Cobb Stephen 13. Page 21. Colter Victoria Lane 139. No voters on 22. Dean Dana Tkaren 86. Damcott Julie 87. Dancourt Janet 88. Page 24. Dancourt John 354. Davis Don 299. Davis Dorothy 298. Davis Jean 89. Davis Leslie 49. Page 25. De Bruyne Meredith 378. De Bruyne Todd 498. Dakarski Michael O9. Page 26. DePoctor Kyle 90. DeRuse David 20. DeRuse Mary Jean 91. DeVore Jeanette Sanit 32. Dewey Terry 129. Page 27. Dickman Henry 92. Dickman Patricia 93. Deener Stephanie 386. Page 28. Donable Donna 262. Donable Amel 263. Dortmund Bill 94. Dortmund Cindy 95. Page 29. Draves John 40. Draves Linda 39. Drescher Connie 246. Drescher Jonathan 156. Page 30. Dunn Helen 96. Dunnton Charles 426. Dunnton Leo 30. Keith. Page 31. Everhardy Judith Allen 97. Eckert Kieran 10. Ailert Delano 440. Erdman Donet 235. Evans Beverly 98. Page 32. Evert Michael 54. Evert Susan 55. F. Page 33. Fair Susan 100. Folly Cindy 274. Folly William 275. Foucher Gloria 256. Feldy Derek 101. Page 34. Fessler David 102. Fessler Sandra 103. Page 35. Fess. Zo XOE Arielle 42. Philipsie Dennis 244. Faust Kathleen 151. Faust Malcolm 152. Fox Daniel 359. Fox Pamela J 358. Foy Bonnie J 6. Page 36. Frank Robert C 340. Frederick Amy K 268. Frederick Susan 243. Fierce. Page 37. Fierce Elizabeth 8387. Page 38 in the G's. Gibrilsson Cody 446. Gahagan Kieran 381. Page 39. Gahagan Patricia 36. Gahagan Patrick C 35. Gamm Charles 537. Gamm Pamela 388. Page 40. Gevler Jack 150. Gevler Jean 149. Geibel Gerald 164. Geiger Gerald 501. And that was Junior? Correct. Thank you. Page 41. Gensh Howard 226. Gensh Susan 225. Gens with a Z. Emily 137. Gens Thomas 138. Gerber Bonnie 104. Gerber Don 227. Gerhardt Janet L 63. Page 42. Burke Steve 425. Geasy Megan 509. Geason Marjorie 105. Giles Christopher 237. Gilmer Brian. What was Giles? I'm sorry 236. Thank you. I didn't say someone. Gilmer Brian 409. Page 43. Goldman Ronald 177. Goldsmith Anthony 170. As a board, this is the county book. This is the one they sign. Correct. Yes. So 177 is in Gold. Goldman Ronald. And we can see that Gail Goldman signed under Gail Goldman. But it looks like the sticker from the city book was put in the wrong person's name. So we just note that in the minute. Cheryl, that in the city book on page 43, voter number 178 should be under Gail Goldman. And how do you say Gail? Gail G-A-I-L. Goldman G-O-L-D-M-A-N-N. And it was put under Anthony Goldsmith. Do you all agree? I agree. I agree. I mean she signed. I made her signatures here. His signatures here. Yeah. Good. We'll just make a note of it. And then when we put, well she's got it in the minutes. But yes, if you put a sticky note so that. Yes, he has it. No, he did not. He did not vote. Anthony did not vote. Okay. All right. Go on. Page 43. Yeah. Page 44. Page 44. Broth, Yolanda, 167, Grahams, Bradley, 447, Grauman, Becky, 389, Great Gretens, Gretchen, 240, Gretens, Kevin, 239, page 45, Gregor, Timothy E, 48, Griffith, Claudette, 106, Griffith, John, 107, Gro, Brendan, 108, page 46, Grankey, Germaine, 109, Grunert, William G, 16, Benlach, Geraldine, 449, Gunlach, Kennan, 448, Hs, no voters on page 47, on page 48, Ronald Halverson, I'm sorry, Ronald, 65, page 49, Hanson, Shannon Lee, 110, Harmalink, Derek, 33, page 50, Harris, Lori, 391, Harris, Michael Lee, 392, Harrison, John P, 269, Harrison, Patricia, 270, page 51, Hartwig, Kyle, 508, Harvat, Catherine, 183, Asler, Darlene, 393, Asler, Wesley, 394, Heidemann, Joseph, 234, page 52, Heinemann, Robert, 413, Heinen, Lucinda, 180, Heinen, Steve, 181, Heinrich, Barbara, 441, page 53, Hemsing, Jerome, 111, Hemsing, Joseph, 287, Henkel, Elaine, 112, page 54, Hengst, Barbara, 271, Hengst, Bruce, 272, Heinrichs, Patricia, 114, Herbert, Kevin, 494, Herbert, Lisa, 375, page 55, Herman, Mark, 228, page 56, Hildebrand, Diet, 488, Hildebrand, Neil, 489, Hill, Tracy, 515, Hilpertzhauser, Ann, 21, Hilpertzhauser, David, 437, page 57, Hilt, James, 15, Hilt, Kieran, 14, Hensie, Charlene, 115, Hensie, Mark, 116, Ford, Bonnie, 117, Hodgell, June, 278, page 58, Hadzinski, John, 463, Hoffman, Allison, 118, Hogan, Julie, 204, Hone, Barbara, 276, Hone, Wallace, 277, page 59, Bertini, Don, 500, page 60, Novolna, 5, page 61, Ignatowski, Christine, 119, Ignatowski, Paul, 120, James, Jacobs, Tanya, 70, Jacobi, Paul, 121, Jacobi, Sandra, 122, Janney, Sharon, 519, page 63, Jensen, Carla, 123, Jensen, Thomas, 124, Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-E-N, Nancy, 160, page 64, Johnson, Richard C-161, Johnson, S-O-N, Bradley, 445, Johnson, Eric, 125, Johnson, Shelley, 534, page 65, Jeanette, Thomas, 525, Case, page 66, Kaston, Sandra, 126, Heal, Mary, K-E-I-L, 127, Heal, Walter, 128, page 67, Klechner, Marles, 131, page 68, Klein-Hunas, Klein-Hunas, Klein-Hunas, 75, Clark, Patrick, 199, page 69, Kober, Karen, 241, Keenig, Michael, 222, Keenig, Victoria, 223, page 70, Kupf, Patricia, 280, Kupf, Timothy, 281, Krause, Joanne, 279, Krebsbach, Judith, 113, Krebsky, Mary, 379, page 71, page 72, Krieger, Brian, 230, Krieger, Kimberly, 229, Kruschke, Dennis, 132, page 73, Kunzman, Agnes, 133, Els, Lamb, Joelle, 462, Landgraf, Peter, 486, Landgraf, Sandra, 485, page 75, Lang, David, 471, Lang, Julie, 465, Lance, Sandra Lee, 135, Larsen, Eric, 141, Larsen, Marie, L, 142, page 76, Lawrence, Deanna, 431, Lawrence, Robert, 430, page 77, Lemahue, Barbara, 416, Lemahue, Larry, 4, oh I'm sorry, Lemahue, Barbara, 417, Lemahue, Larry, 416, Lemahue, Randall, 364, are we getting to the M's? Yes, I just said that. All right, page 78, Leonard, L-e-n-h-a-r-d-t, Lawrence, 3, Leonard, L-e-o-n-h-a-r-d, Herman, 73, Lewandowski, Louise, 143, Lewandowski, Thomas, 144, Linder, Ryan, 452, No voters on page 79, page, and no voters on 80. Page 81, Mahler, Debbie with an I, 168, Mahler, Rudy, F, Junior, 140, Myse, M-A-I-S, Charles, 395, page 82, Mallwitz, Joyce, 69, Mansion, Michael, 176, page 83, Martin, Christine, 429, Martin, David, 288, Matt Stick, Christine, 544, page 84, Matt Storf, David, 289, Matt Storf, Susan, 290, McCormick, Sharon, 205, McNellis, Chelsea, 419, McNellis, Catherine, 291, page 85, Menzer, Darrell, 147, Menzer, Ebon, 146, Messick, Laurel, 187, Messick, Mark, 188, page 86, Meyer, Constance, 396, Meyer, Eileen, 292, Meyer, Frederick, 397, Meyer, Reinbold, Claudia, 527, Michaud, Jacqueline, 293, page 87, Myles, Caitlyn, 390, Miller, Barbara, 175, Miller, Maryland, 424, Miller, Randall, 163, Miller, Rosalie, 467, page 88, Locke, Richard, 155, page 89, Moore, MOHR, Jean, 295, Moore, I'm sorry, 294, Moore, MOHR, Margaret, 295, Monlach, Cecilia, 296, Montgomery, Marguerite, 398, page 90, Moore, MORE, Kyle, 3535, Moore, Victoria, 399, Morales, Dana, 25, Morgan, Christine, 297, Moss, Myrtle, 99, Miller, M-U-E-L-L-E-R, Roger, 438, page 91, Miller, M-U-E-L-L-E-R, Tricia, 198, Miller, William, 439, Munch, 237, Muth, Timothy, number 4, Shannon, Michele, Munch, and Muth, Timothy, number 4, I have, I have Nicole, Timothy, page 91, there was a four in the county book for Timothy, Muth, M-O-T-H, M-U-T-H, and there was a four put in the city book for Nicole, there's a signature for Timothy in the county book. So similar to last time. Right, is Nicole the same last name? Yes. And again, Nicole did not vote correct. Do we, do we agree with Martha in March that it should be Timothy and Muth? Yes. And we're going to mark that so we correctly counteract both in the system. Okay. All right. Page 92, NAC, Cheryl, 545, NAC, Joanna, 442, NAC, Thomas, 443, NAC, Timothy, 546, Nardi, Darlene, 186, page 93, Newman, Donald, 283, Newman, Patricia, 282, page 94, Notham, Sharon, 520, Novak, Donna, Marie, 428, Novak, John Wayne, 427, page 95, Nighyce, Lois, 267, page 96, O'Brien, Joseph, 530, Etzel, Lorraine, 300, Etzel, Michael, 211, page 97, Oldenburg, Rhonda, 197, Opkinorth, David, 476, Opkinorth, Mary, 475, page 98, Orth, Ariel, 301, Orth, Sally, 302, Orth, Thomas, 303, Pease, page 99, Patchniac, Patricia, 518, Patchniac, Paul, 284, page 100, Parks, Susan, 167, Parks, Terry, 68, Patnody, Dwight, 461, page 101, Paul, Gary, 304, Paul, Lori, 366, page 102, Peterson, Gloria, 305, Van Cook, Scott, 495, Fister, Gustav, 306, Fister, Lois, 169, Fister, Ronald, 170, Fister, Vera, 307, page 103, Pilzel, Robert, 308, Pitch, Mary, Joe, 410, Pitch, Steven, 411, Pitner, Gene, 457, Pitner, Peter, 458, page 104, Pleasants, John, 248, Pleasants, Shirley, 249, Ponzio, Ricky, 137, Poole, I'm sorry, 136, 136, Poole, Judith, 5105, Price, Mark, 221, There are no cues, page 106, R's, Radke, Bonnie, 38, Radke, Thomas, 36, Ron, 37, Ron, Roger, 453, Raleigh, Leanne, 496, Raleigh, Robert, I'm sorry, Raleigh, Randy, Robert, 497, page 107, Riedic, Roxanne, 220, Reichendorfer, Peter, 62, Reif, Frank, 309, Reinbold, Douglas, 258, Reinbold, 257, Reinbold, Kristen, 464, Reinbold, Michael, 171, page 108, Reineke, David, 310, Reineke, Grace, 311, Reinemann, Todd, 415, Reichenaller, Margaret, 437, I'm 435, gosh, I should give back to you, 435, Recolitis, Grace, 312, 109, Renzelman, with two ends at the end, James, 17, Repenshek, Betty, 468, page 110, Repenshek, Thomas, 469, Resh, David, 247, Retagalliata, Daniel, 53, Retagalliata, Dawn, 52, Retzak, Thomas, 77, Rexax, R-E-X-A-C-H, Raphael, R-A-F-A-E-L, 313, Rexax, R-E-X-A-C-H, Tia, T-A-I, 314, page 111, Rhodes, R-H-O-D-E-S, Jeffrey, 315, Rhodes, R-H-O-D-E-S, Victoria, Lynn, 316, Richardson, Greg, 538, Richardson, Joe, 201, Richardson, Mary, 200, stepping,iał, H-1-12, Richardson, Rene, 224, Richter, Stephen, 482, page 113, Reimann, Thomas, 31, райont, Joshua, 23, rimnt, director, Kimberly, 372, Rissy, Keith, 450. Rissy, Mary, 451. Ristol, Denise, 418. Ristol, Kenneth, 51. Page 114. Ritt, Allison, 260. Ritt, Junior, Jeffrey, 261. Robbins, K, 317. Robinson, Charles, 206. Page 115. Robinson, Marissa, 487. Robinson, Nancy, 540. Page 116. Rosenthal, John, 479. Rosenthal, K, 478. Rothe, Piggy, 196. 117. Rwona, Jason, 253. Rwona, Linda, 531. Russert, Jean, 318. Russert, Ronald, 323. Page 118. Sager, S-A-E-G-E-R, Trevor, 182. Salas, Joanne, 50. Salvador, Poulos, Susan, 385. Page 119. Sass, Deborah, 320. Sass, Michael, 412. Sass, Richard, 321. Page 120. Schellbauer, S-C-H-E-L-B-A-U-E-R, Charlotte, 207. Schellbauer, DeWayne, 208. Schlafke, Mary, 400. Schlafke, Steve, 402. 121. Schmitz, S-C-H-M-I-T-Z, John, 401. Schmitz, same last spelling, Julie, 548. Schmitz, same last spelling, Karen, 19. Page 122. Schmitz, S-C-H-M-I-T-Z, Mark, 547. Schnelle, Deborah, that's D-E-B-O-R-A, 259. Schamer, Jerome, 324. Page 123. Shane, Barbara, 215. Shane, James, 216. Schlotz, Justin, 506. Schlotz, Catherine, 337. Schrader, Christopher, 71. Schrader, Kathleen, 459. Schrader, Peter, 406. I'm sorry, 460. Schotz, S-C-H-U-L-T-Z, Alice, 28. Page 124. Schotz, S-C-H-U-L-Z, Kathleen, 325. Schotz, S-C-H-U-L-Z, Amy, 326. Schotz, S-C-H-U-L-Z-E, Ronald, 328. Page 125. Schwalbe, William, 162. Sankphile, Chad, 2. Sair, S-E-R-R, Joanne, 330. Sair, Kenneth, 331. Page 126. Shank, Kevin, 408. Shank, Laura, 217. Page 127. Shaver, Joseph, 365. Shaver, Tracy, 507. Shaw, Troy, 513. Page 128. Siege, Kathleen, 332. Simmons, S-I-M-E-N-Z, Sheila, 157. Simmons, William, Jr., 158. Simmons, S-I-M-M-O-N-S, Richard, Jr., 367. Page 129. Simmons, Audrey, 483. Sippel, Fay, number one. Page 130. Subcheck, Kevin, 517. Subcheck, Monica, 516. Sommerfeldt, F-E-L-D-T, Michael, 403. Summersberger, Mary, 333. Page 131. Summersberger, Thomas, 334. Sorensen, James, 466. Sorensen, Joanne, 360. Sorensen, Zachary, 335. Page 132. Stalter, John, 286. Stalter, Judith, 285. Stauber, Nathan, 512. Steele, Julie, 432. Steele, Robert, 329. Steen, Duane, 477. Page 133. Stein, Arthur, 134. Steinbrooker, Colleen, 528. Steinbrooker, John, 529. Steinbrooker, Martha, 148. Steinbrooker, Phillip, 66. Steinbrooker, Robert, 336. Steinbrooker, Sandra, 338. Page 134. Stelter, Lisa, 420. Stelter, Michael, 421. Stepahar, Shirley, 339. Stinglift, Joanne, 219. Page 135. Stephanie, Nancy, 368. Stephanie, Richard, 369. Stewart, Cameron, 361. Stewart, Kim, 18. Page 136. Strojanke, Jesse, 480. Strojanke, Kelly, 481. Stuckman, Kerry, 203. Stuckman, David, 430. I'm 341. Stuckman, Haley, 202. Sudgeon, Andrew, 510. Sudgeon, Anna, 511. Page 137, page 138. Toggle, Jason, 499. Tempus, James, 342. Tempus, Mary, 343. Phil, Andrea, 255. Phil, Lawrence, 490. Page 139. Thomas, Daniel, 549. Thomas, Deborah, 382. Thune, Sophie, 344. Tim, Bruce, 414. Tim, Marcia, 238. Page 140. Tottenhoof, Gloria, 322. Treasurer, Michael, 185. Treasurer, Shelley, 436. Page 141. Tripoli, Diane, 273. Trossen, Jeremy, 444. Trotta, Elizabeth, 266. Trotta, Lee, 265. Tupper, Thomas, 345. Turner, Paris, 370. Page 142, there are no borders. Page 143. Urban, Bruce, 24. Urban, Therese, 532. Page 144. Bander, Sandy, Dirk, 503. Bander, Wheely, David, 383. Bander, Wheely, Jean, 384. Van Dixhorn, Audrey, 346. Van Dixhorn, Jody, 347. Page 145. Beenendahl, Bradley, 542. Beenendahl, Nancy, 72. Beenendahl, Shannon, 541. Feldkamp, Caitlyn, 526. Feldkamp, Lee, 523. Velier, Cindy, 373. Page 146. Belier, Elizabeth, 473. Belier, Jonathan, 374. Belier, Michael, 371. Belier, Rodney, 493. Do we have to comment on this? He signed here. Razzie, H. Oh, Rodney H. Right, that's the same. Want me to sign to the wrong spot. Okay, he's Rodney. All right, and they indicated it. Okay. He just signed on the wrong line. On page 146. Page 146. 146. 493. Three and four are signed on the wrong line. What's the name? Was that Eero drawn by the foreworker? Yes. Well, I don't, I mean, we don't can't tell. It could have been. It could have been the foreworker. Rodney, sorry. Rodney, Harold, Belier. V-E-L-I-E-R. Ready? Did we see if there were any of them? Are there two of them in the book? It's the same address. It's the same address. It stays in their choice. It's Rodney H and Rodney Harold. Harold. So that's what you get to hear. Oh, there's only one. And sometimes there's duplicate records of the same. Yeah, that's correct. No objection. Fine. All right. For now, Kelly, 191. Verveldi, Jonathan, 348. Page 147. Volmer, Steven, 7. Page 148. Vorpal, Joseph, 193. Vorpal, Judith, 192. That was V-O-P-A-L. Now it's Vorpal, V-O-R-P-A-H-L. Michael, 380. Reakey, Michael, 64. Vorpal, there's Vorpal and Vorpal. There's Vorpal and Vorpal. Different addresses. Page 149, Naran-O-P-A-H-150. Wagner, Allison, 264. Sannin, Weisenan, Patricia, 327. Waldron, John P. Jr., 245. Wallace, 349. Wallace, Gale, 339. Page 151 has no borders. Page 152. Weber, John, 76. Weber, Teresa, 130. Wyman, Autumn, 491. Wyman, Tracy, 492. Wynaw, Janet, 47. Page 153. Weinhold, Judith, 351. Weniger, Ingrid, 362. Weniger, Jerome, 363. Wentz, Julie, 352. Wentz, Rick, 353. Wentz, Sarah, 355. 154, Paige. Wessler, Barbara, 356. Wetzel, Jill, 74. Wetzel, Rion, 474. White, Christine, 521. White, Roger, 407. Page 155, Weirman, Doreen, 404. There are no voters on page 156. Page 157, Wood, Carroll, voter 11. There are no voters on page 158. Now we're in the Lies, page 159. Yancy, Matthew, 406. Yancy, Rachel, 12. There are no voters on page 160. Page 161, page 163. I'm sorry, 162. Saller, Z-A-L-L-A-R. Linda, 357. Saller, Tim, 405. Salm, Daniel, 60. Zempel, Kurt, 524. Page 163. Sight, Michael, 242. And Zwick, Amy, 533. Supplemental page. Fernan, Noah, 145. Tempest, Madeline, 214. Tashima, Emily, 250. Stelter, Caden, I'm sorry, 422. I'm assuming it's that way. They just put it there. Cren, Eileen, 470. Cren, George, 472. Toggle, Jaden, 502. Evans, Adam, 504. Garnora, Sharon, or Charo, S-H-A-R-O-R-E. Wait, it looks 522. And McKay, Molly, Erin, 536. These were same-day registrations. That's a total of 10 or 11, I'm sorry. 10. Thank you. Okay, so let's just look at the front page of the whole book. Where did they affect your statement, Sharon? Madam Clerk, so the supplemental pages are generated from the new registrations in person at the polling location. And when was the whole book generated? The whole book we generated on Friday. Thank you. All right, so we're just going to look at the numbers. The last number you have is for total number of votes. Last order number was 549. And the page number of the last folder was marked at 139, which it was, the number of the number, right number of absentee electors was 141 plus one column at board of ministers. The ballots and the absentee ballots when we returned from lunch. Were you taking us, Madam Clerk? I know, right? There's got to be a buy one, get one free around here somewhere. I had to go full speed agenda. Oh, here you go. One o'clock, one o'clock. Is that okay with everybody? One o'clock. Is that about one? It's 12. All right, we're going to get started again. Check. All right, you're going to get the whole book this time, Marge? Yeah. You'll be comment on that right away. You know, when we do the, when we do the heads for the machine, and it's the same machine. Yeah. When we do the ballots. This is the number for the ward here. Ballots by 48. That's the ballots, but that is plus one. Yeah, yeah. All right, so we're going to start with the absentee ballots. We're going to go through, we're reconvening it is 104. 104. So we're going to do what we did last time with the ballots, the absentee applications in the poll book. There are 169 applications for this ward, and there should be 142 ballots cast. So that's what we're doing for the envelopes, to rejected. So we need the rejected envelope as well. Marge, you're checking off and saying if they voted, then Marge is checking off on the book to make sure there's an A. And I'm making sure there's an envelope. And we're, but you can see. 169 applications. 169 applications, 142 ballots and envelopes. No, I just want to make this part, yeah. Somebody came in and voted in person. How's that going to show up on this? After making that. If they had an application, then it'll be in there with, we mark these as A's, if they voted absentee, if they voted in person, they sign over, they sign over the A. Yeah, not on the A, there would be the A. Yes, we indicate an A instead of their signature in the poll book. So if they vote in person, they will have a signature there. And that's why we're using the B. All right, Martha, first one, Richard A. Holm. Yes, he voted. I'm going to ask you to just not to have side conversations because it gets picked up on the... If everybody is silent so that all this can get picked up on the mic. Thank you. All right, Sandra A. Holm. Yes, she voted. Brenda Olson, ALF. She did not vote. Ryan Ayres voted. If it says voted in person. That is because they voted. And, oh, thank you. So just to check, Martha, that one that we have here. Danielle Birchman, B-E-R-C-H. Danielle Birchman, Whedon Creek. They're going to have an address. I do not have. Yes, she voted, yes. Deborah Bergen, B-E-R-G-I-N. Yes, she voted. Marge Belke, B-O-E-H, L-K-E. Did not vote. Duane Boll, voted. Just a second. Is that the one that did not vote? No, we wouldn't have an envelope if they did not vote. So that's, we just skipped that one because she documented on there that they did not vote. So this one did vote. All right, so we just did Duane Boll. Yep. Deborah Betel, B-O-U-T-E-L-L-E. Voted. Timothy Betel. Voted. Floyd Bowen. Voted. Sharon Bowen. Voted. Nancy Brower. Voted. Sandra Bryrather. Voted. Kathleen Budnick. Voted. Elmer Budrecke. Voted. Catherine Canora. C-A-N. Voted. William Conroy. William. Did not vote. Karen Daynert. D-A-E-H. Voted. Dorothy Dallenback. Did not vote. Gerald Damcott. Did not vote. Julie Damcott. Voted. Janet Dankwart. Voted. Jean Davis. Voted. Kyle DePacter. Voted. Lucille DePacter. Did not vote. Mary DeRus. Voted. Henry Dickman. Voted. Patricia Dickman. Voted. Bill Dortmund. Voted. Cindy Dortmund. Voted. Helen Dunn. Voted. Judith Abahardi. Voted. Beverly Evans. I am voted. Susan Fair, F-A-I-R. Voted. Derek Feldy. Voted. David Fessler. Voted. Sandra Fessler. Voted. Elizabeth Fierst. F-U-E. Voted. Pamela Gamm. G-A-M-B. Voted. Gene Gebler. G-E-B. Voted. In person. Bonnie Gruber. Wait, Gene Gebler? She voted in person. She voted in person. So we shouldn't have a vote. So we should have a vote. So that's what you were asking. Correct. Because there was an application for her. She got a ballot. She chose to vote in person instead. So that's why she signed the book. So she's on this list? She had an application. She's on this list. But we don't have a, yes. Just real quick. Does that make two of those so far? I'm trying to keep track for our council. That what? That voted in person that got an absentee application? Yes. I thought there was one earlier. The one I asked about was voted in person. Which meant that they voted in our office. Oh, that way. Not that they, so they're still an absentee bench. Okay, I'll be quiet. So they didn't come in. They didn't come in with an envelope and a ballot. They came in with no ballots and voted in person. We don't know where that ballot is. The other one is just mailed to her. She got one mailed to her and then she came to the polls and voted that way. She was given a ballot at the poll. Yes. So that, the one you mailed to her is still out there somewhere. Hopefully she destroyed it. Okay. Okay. Could I request that you let me miss all the great people in service? Yeah, I was just coming up because the council said if there's something I should, and I'll go sit down now. Is that okay? Okay. All right, so then are we up to Bonnie Gerber? Yes, she voted. Marjorie Geeson. Voted. James Graff. Did not vote. Becky Grauman. Voted. Claudette Griffith. Voted. John Griffith. Voted. Brendan Barrow. Voted. Jermaine Grenke. Voted. Shannon Hansen. Voted. Laurie Harris. Voted. Michael Harris. Voted. Darlene Passler. Voted. Wesley Passler. Voted. Jerome Hemsing. Voted. Delaine Henkel. Voted. Brian Hendricks. Did not vote. Patricia Henricks. Voted. Julie Herman. Did not vote. Charlene Hinsie. Voted. Mark Hinsie. Voted. Bonnie Ford. Voted. Ellison Huffman. Voted. Christine Ignatowski. Can you set that aside, please? It says simple again. Yep. Voted. Ignatowski. Christine Ignatowski. Voted. Then Paul Ignatowski. One second. One second. We're pulling the one, we're pulling. Is there a reason other than the address or some red? We're pulling the one, we're pulling the one, we're pulling. Would you want to go through the same procedure or something? Okay, then there's one in here. I just thought it was just the um, just go with me. But, well, it's sort of that. I'm trying to keep it consistent. So what's the number on Christine, sorry. Sorry. What's the number for Christine? 119, yes. Sorry. Paul is 120. Thank you. So 119 and 120. Ignatowski. They're both Ignatowskis? Yes. Paul is Ignatowskis. One is Paul and Ignatowskis. I'd like to find out. I'll just call them and I'll just call them all. I'll just let you tell me. Yeah, it's kind of DLJs. Yeah, it's in a bit. AMB. AMB. AMB. What number is that? 388. And that was a missing statement. And the statement. I'm sorry. Missing a statement. What? Is it called? Thank you. All right. The last one we did was Allison Huffman. Correct? No, we did that. Okay. Wait a minute. Yeah. We have the Ignatowskis. Okay. Oh yeah. I'm sorry. We put those aside. Yes. The last one we did was Christine and Ignatowskis. We did. We need to do Paul. Yep. Ignatowskis. Okay. I'm so sorry. Okay. We jumped out of there. Yep. Thank you. Okay. That's okay. Paul Jacoby. Voted. And Sandra Jacoby. Also voted. Carla Jensen. Voted. Carla Jensen. Missing the statement. With a C? Yes. Carla. With a C? And Jensen. J-E-N-S-E-N. Voter number 123. Missing the statement. Carla. Thomas Jensen. Voted. Thomas. Jensen. Number one. 124. State Jensen. Yeah. Thank you. Eric Johnson. Voted. Sandra Casten. Voted. Mary Keele. Or Kyle. K-E-I-L. Voted. Walter Kyle. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Fort. Denise Lane. Did not vote. Lance, Sandra Lee. Voted. Larson, Eric. Voted. Marie Larson. Voted. Luandelski, Louise. Voted. Luandelski, Tom. Wait a second. Sorry. Please. Okay, so we have L-O-U-I-S-V. Luandelski, L-E-W-A-N-D-O-S-K-E. Voter number 143. Missing Sheboygan, Wisconsin, and the zip code. So the last one was Louise. She voted. Okay, yep. And Thomas. Also, also voted. I pulled up. Same, same, same, thank you. Yes, missing the same thing. Yes, 144. Lockman, Magdalene. Did not vote. Lorenz, Michael. Did not vote. Lorenz, Molly, Jean. Did not vote. Mace, Charles. Voted. Martin, David. Voted. Matzdorf, David. Voted. Is that one of the same? It's got blue ink instead of red. What does that mean? Either they added it or we added it. I mean, there's no initials, so I can't. To me, the writing feels a lot like the address. Yes. This looks like it's the same writing. Why are we doing this? Do you still, I mean, it's up to you. We are good with this one, but. No objection. No objection. Okay. So that was, that was David. David and Matzdorf. Voted. Correct. Okay. Susan Matzdorf. Voted. Same. Do you guys agree with that? Yes. Okay. Yes. McNallis, Catherine. Voted. Meyer, Constance. Voted. Meyer, Eileen. Voted. Meyer. Jackson, not David. So Eileen Meyer. The voter did not put the dates. It's the dates recorded and was voted. It's returned to the clerk's office. Correct. Is that, was that mailed? The date is, what's the voter number? Sorry. Voter number 292. Yeah, there's a postmark on the back. And we date stamp it. Is that prior to the election or after? March 25th is when we date stamped it. Okay. So it was received by your office, received in your office, on March, before the election. Correct. Do you need anything else, Cheryl? Nope. Okay. So that was Eileen. That is Eileen. Did the group vote on this one? That's over there. So whether it's... Well, it was an objection, so I just put it aside, but... Technically it's not an objection yet at this point. It's just laying aside. Just laying aside even. The objection is at the end. Okay. I don't want to put it in a separate pile. Yeah. Deciding. Up to you, Matt. Put it in a different category. Well, we'll do them one by one when we get there. Sorry. All right. So that was Eileen? Yes. All right. Frederick, Meyer, MEY. Voted. Michoud, Jacqueline. Voted. More. Dean. What did you do, Jacqueline? Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Where are we? You just did. Jacqueline, Michoud. Thank you. She voted. Yeah. Okay. That's okay. And now we're up to more. More. MOHR. Dean. Voted. There we go. All right. More. Margaret. Voted. Monlach, Cecilia. Voted. Montgomery. Marguerite. Voted. More. Wait one second. Sorry. Marguerite. M-A-R-G-U-E-R-I-T-E. Montgomery. M-O-N-T-G-O-M-E-R-Y. Voter number 398. Zip code was added. Good, Cheryl? Yep. Sorry. Yep. More. M-O-O-R-E. Victoria. Voted. Morgan. Christine. Voted. Clinton. Robert. Is that N-A-U? N-E-W. Robert. Mm-hmm. Did not vote. Etzel. Lorraine. Voted. Fourth. Ariel. Voted. Fourth. Sally. Voted. Fourth. Thomas. Voted. Paul. Gary. P-A-U-L. Peterson. Gloria. Voted. Fister. Gustav. Voted. Fister. Vera. Voted. Hilsal. Robert. Voted. Rice. Frank. R-E-I-S. Reineke. R-E-I-N-E. Voted. David. M-O-N-T-G. Reineke. Grace. Voted. Recolitis. Grace. Voted. Rexash. Raphael. Voted. Rexash. Ty. Voted. Rhodes. Jeffrey. Voted. Rhodes. Victoria. Voted. Robin. Kay. Voted. Brona. Linda. R-U-O-N-A. Voted. Russert. Jean. Voted. Russert. Ronald. Voted. Schlafke. Mary. Voted. Schlafke. Steve. Voted. Schnapeman. Nona. Did not vote. Schomer. Jerome. Voted. Schomer. Margaret. Did not vote. Shaneig. June. Did not vote. Schultz. Kathleen. Voted. Schultz. Amy. Voted. Schultz. Ronald. Voted. Sir. S-E-R-R. Joanne. Voted. Sir. Kenneth. Voted. Shackla. Sharon. Did not vote. Seek. S-I-E-C-H. Kathleen. Voted. Summersfeld. Michael. Voted. Summersberg. Okay, hold on a second. I'm sorry, Michael Summersfeld. S-O-M-M-E-R. F-E-L-D-T. Voter number 403. Missing the state and the court. Yes. Okay. Mary, Summersberger. Mary. Voted. Summersberger. Thomas. Voted. Sorensen. Zachary. Voted. Steinbrecker. Roberts. Voted. Steinbrecker. Sandra. Voted. Stempier. Shirley. Voted. Stuckman. David. Voted. Taylor. Tannen. P-A-Y. Did not vote. Tempest. Jane. Voted. Tempest. Mary. Voted. Sophie. Thun. T-H-U-N. Voted. Thomas. Voted. Urban. U-R-B-E-N. Tari. Voted. Ben. Dixhorn. Audrey. Voted. Van Dixhorn. Jody Lynn. Voted. Verveldi. Jonathan. Voted. Wagner. Allison. W-A-G. Was Allison Wagner? So that is, she voted a person? Right. So she's not an Allison. Oh, so she's not an Allison too. Thank you. Numbers, that one? This is number 264. 264. Allison Wagner. Had an absentee application, but voted in person. Then Wallace, Bill. Voted. Wallace Gale. Voted. Winehold. W-E-I-N. Judith. Voted. Wetz. Julie Ann. Voted. Wetz. Rick. Voted. Wenz. Sarah. One second. Sorry. I was seeing Julie Ann, because I heard each other in those. Oh, okay, so. Sarah also voted. So Sarah Wenz. Sarah Wenz. Yeah, I have it. Yes, thank you. Okay. Wessler. Barbara. Voted. Weirman. Doreen. Voted. Zaller. Linda. Voted. Zaller. Tim. Voted. All right. So, we'll do the same as we did before. We have you look at these to counsel. If you want to object to any of them. Why was this one voted? This one voted. Honestly, I know there's a postmarked stamp by the group's office saying it was received in book. It was accepted by the clerk as received. He was running for the tabulator. It's a bold thing. If there was a missing address, zip code, whatever, that would, it's going to be in red, correct? Or was there, were there other colors used? There could be other colors used. Okay. It's consistent with board 19. Can you see the counsel person? I don't see it. What is it? All right. Your tags are falling off. So, there you are. Which one are you? You're the, I'm just sitting here at counsel. Okay. So, did you, your introduction, is that correct? Okay. Thank you. They didn't say anything yet. No. Are we counting this one? No. So, we are now counting them. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. We're going to do that there. What? They're 19. There's 10 of them. Is that what you have? That's what I have. But it's a mystery. 10s. Oh, yeah, there's one of them. Oh, gosh. You guys have an objection to any of them? No objections. We don't object to the ones that are just zip code, which were some were all of them. More address consistent with what was done with board 19. So, which do you object, which do you object to? We object to the one lacking an elector fill-in C date. Recorded by statute. Which was 292? Give me a second. I don't know if that is what I'm trying to say. This one. Okay. We could call it that way, otherwise to get it in. Do you go? Well, I think if there's going to be an objection, we should have both sides, really there are objections and then we'll, okay. And the other side. So, there's an objection to the Eileen Meyer ballot, which does not have a date from the voter. Correct. Okay. Okay, others were not objecting. Okay. So, let's do this if you want to take the nine that are not being objected to and... Put them back in the stack. Put them back in the stack as... And there's only one objection. There's one objection. Do you want, is there anything further that you want to state with regard to your objection? State statute requires that the electors sign and date the application. And if the envelope, if the elector had failed to sign, we would also make the same objections as with the date. Does the other side wish to make a response to that objection? I argue that the clerk is the official in charge of city clerk is the official, mails out the absentee ballots, marks it in whiz vote as a ballot sent. The ballots received in the clerk's office, the clerk marks the ballot as received in whiz vote. It's segregated into the proper tub where it's taken to the tabulator for tabulation. The clerk is the gatekeeper. In this instance, the clerk accepted that ballot. The clerk marked it as received. The clerk stamped it with a date stamp that is earlier than the date of the election. The clerk separated it into the tub that went to the proper voting tabulator and the ballot was tabulated. There was no objection by the clerk's office. The clerk is the chief elections officer of the city. The clerk accepted that ballot and voted it. So it seems impossible to be able to cancel. First of all, we can't find the ballot. We don't know which ballot it is. The second of all, the clerk accepted it. If it was a problem, they could have called and written it in red like they did with all of the other ballots that were corrected by the clerk, but the clerk accepted it. And I'm not, councilor, can you cite the statute that requires the signature and date? I'm familiar with that statute. I cannot, as I said here today, beyond what was done in compliance with the statute. But it was accepted by the chief elections officer of the city and it was voted. Could have been stopped because it was zip code or an address or signature, but it was, it went through. So it's voted. And it's impossible to figure out which ballot it is. Before we move on to just one minute to look up the statute. So we can re-make it out. I think I was actually trying to do that myself. So, yeah, so if either side, if there's some statutes. Yes, we will take a minute to have our council look up. That's nursing home. Maybe just this, but there may be. So, let's get them to come here. I think that's, yeah, a cool sketch. Please make sure you set it up. Does anybody do need more time or are we good to? We have a determination. So, I mean, either side can, if you've got more evidence than this, but I find that section 6.87, let me just make sure that sub one, sub AC, provides that any elector qualifies under paragraph A, that's not an issue. They make a written application of the municipal clerk for an official ballot and by means of accidentally transmission or electronic mail. Any application under this paragraph need not contain a copy of the applicant's original signature. An elector requesting a ballot under this paragraph shall return with the voted ballot a copy of the request bearing an original signature of the elector as provided in 6.874. Doesn't signify anything about a date and then accept as otherwise authorized that elector shall transmit a copy. Now, that relates solely to electronic, but when I go to 6.87, sub four, that has to do with military electors. So, I'm not sure that this entirely complies, but again, it talks about a signature, but it doesn't talk about a date. So, unless somebody can show me a statute specific to just regular absentees that is different than those other statutes that I found that only reference a signature, my opinion would be that the signature is sufficient and the lack of a date is insufficient. It wouldn't cause, my recommendation would you be to count the ballot as a result. Do we have any other comments before the board? The board gets to make the decision. The board gets to make the decision, yeah, whether you should include that envelope, except that I'm here with the analysis as presented by this. Do you have anything else to add? No, we're there for the record. Okay. I guess if this were at my pool, I would have sent it aside and made a call. And probably if I hadn't heard anything from you, I would have rejected it because it didn't happen to them. And nothing was on here that you said it was okay. So that's just my opinion. I'm under the opinion that it didn't help. I'm uncamed for the date of the election and that's where I am too. I clearly see the date here on March 25th. And it wouldn't be date camp, then I think I would have a issue with it, but I vote to count it. I would not, I would have to count it. Very counted, but I didn't deny the objection. So it's voted two to one to deny the objection? Yes. Is it two to one? Did you all end up? You would, okay. I voted to deny it. I did two. You voted to accept the objection we denied. That's up to you. That's the board. You get to decide with the timestamp on it. And I guess I'm okay. I said, but that had not been on there. I probably would not have accepted it. So then it's three to zero. They deny the objection. Very counted. We counted the list. Okay. Why don't we count the is in step 25, that's two. Do we want to put that one aside though? So once all of them are done, there'll be 10 that were set aside. I mean, we'll count them, but though, we won't get them all intermingled. This is 25. These are the extras. Two stands to 25. So how many envelopes do we have? 25, that's a hundred, 25, plus seven. And then there's 10. Oh, then there's 10. That's 142. So we have 142 here, which is what was counted. We do have two rejected. So actually, at least it would be on here that they were turned and they were rejected. So we're gonna change this. So there's two applications that we did have. Balance four, but they were rejected at the polls. Okay. So they were for March. B-O-E-H-L-K-E, this one. So just change that, rejected at the polls. The May-R-G-E-B-O-E-L. B-O-E-H-L-K-E. H-L-K-E. B-O-E-L-K-E, this one. So there's H there or not there? B-O-E-H-L-K-E, eyes are going crossy here. All right, and this one was rejected due to no signature and date. It says signature and voter. Voter, signature, and date. All together that whole line was quite good. Madam, could you read into the record who the witness was? Looks like her signature there. That is my point. But it's not her address. But it's not their address. But that's not her address. So it might not be, yeah. I mean, it looks like there's a J there. I don't know, I can't, I wouldn't be able to say that that name is Mark. Yeah, but that's... If I could request that it just be read into the record please. Well, I don't know what name it is. I don't know what name it is. It looks like something J, felt like to me, or Mary, I don't know what it is. Something small. I can't read the signature, but it is an address. The witness address is different than the voter address. Do you want that read into the record, maybe? Okay, so the voter address is 1113 Carmen Avenue, and the witness address is 1606 South 20th Street, both in Sheboyga. Okay, she might need a name though. Who was asking the question, Jeff? Oh, I'm sorry, that's a good one, Mary. Gotcha. Oh, they're in red. I don't know where I'm at. It says return to be detected, called, voted to notify, couldn't come in certificate insufficient. So they couldn't correct it. So we did get a hold of the voter, but they could not come in certificate insufficient. Oh, couldn't come in. That's Cheryl's initials and data. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. And then the second one was Taylor, Tammy. Last name, Taylor. Oh, Tammy is the first name? Tammy Taylor. Tammy Taylor? Yes. So she voted, but it was rejected at the polls. There was a witness signature, but no address. We tried to contact them twice. Their mailbox was full, can't leave message. Cheryl, I can read it. Can't leave message, return to be rejected insufficient. And then the initials and dates of our office. Looks like a last name, Taylor. So, Richard or something. Yeah. Again, yeah. That looks like a something H Taylor as the witness, but that's a signature though. Okay, we're asking a lot here, but is there a Richard Taylor on the polls in the names, next to her name, for the husband? You're rejected. You're rejected. It requires an address. No, there's no other, there's another Taylor, but it's a completely different address. Well, so everybody's talking, so we won't be able to hear it. So go ahead and just say what you just said. Okay. I was questioning whether there was a Taylor available in the polling records that's probably her husband, and that's possibly why there's no address underneath. And the answer was? No, no. Okay. So this needs to be changed to 140. That were returned. No, you can wait. So we actually have 144 envelopes that got returned to us. So the other way around. Other way, the other way around. Yes. Thank you. So we did have 144 comes, we counted 142 of them. Right, do we all agree? Yes. Okay. Can I ask you something? Yes, you may. I'm in response to this top one. Yes. Are you able to read the name of the witness? We said it was a, I can't read the first name, but it looks like H Taylor as the middle initial and last name. We would like to request that that ballot be admitted because the clerk's office built in the same addresses for other voters who are lacking the address but did not be so on this one. And we request equitable treatment. Okay, do you have a response before I, The name is the one that we're, Ballots were rejected by administrative action of the court for the election. The dead ballots, they weren't counted. They're not part of this recount. They were rejected. We're not litigating the validity of ballots today. They were rejected by the official, the clerk on election or before the election closed. These ballots are of no consequence in this recount whatsoever. Just because there's two ballots inside those envelopes that everybody wants to get through them, you're out of time and you're out of sequence. And there's no, there's no process available today that allows you to look in those envelopes because you rejected them on election day. If they were legitimate ballots and the board of candidars felt like they were counted, I would definitely think they could be counted. However, we make every effort, we have to contact the voter on those other ballots. We need to contact the voter to get that information from them. We just don't fill in the address without getting ahold of somebody first. And so that is our directive and that's what we do. So we will look up names in phone books and we will look up people any way, which way we can to make sure that we can fill in the information that is missing. And this one we could not get ahold of somebody to verify who their witness was and what their address was. And so just so that we have it for the record, what you're saying is that there is not different treatment for this ballot that each person was attempted to be contacted and you only added the information upon receiving information from the voter with the proper information. In this case, you did not receive that information, is that correct? And I think you also did at the Board of Canvassers meeting on Friday make the determination regarding the rejected ballots as well, is that correct? So I think that my opinion, my legal opinion is that while there is a process for counting those ballots, the Board of Canvassers has made that decision last Friday not to count these ballots. So my opinion is they should not be opened and they should not be counted. Is that in the minutes of the Board of Canvassers from last Friday? It should be, yes. That these were rejected? Yes. Because I don't remember seeing them. I was out at certain points so I may just have missed it. But I don't remember being able to look at the back of the ballots that weren't opened. Well, and I can't speak to how the Board of Canvassers dealt with it, but I do recall that you made a determination about rejected ballots in Ward 21. Oh, correct. So those will step back in then below. And now we have 142 with these together because we don't have to count them again. That's 10 that were, oh, we have them written down. We have the names right now, yeah. Now I'm gonna get the ballot bag. Yes, please. Thank you. All right, yes. This chain of custody would reflect the insertion of that extra ballot into the bag. It applies at the same sequence. So the seal number, and Cheryl, I'll wait till Cheryl's ready. My out sequence, go ahead. Nope, it's okay. Okay. I'm gonna put this one that we took off of that one in this day. Yep, that sounds good. Thank you. So this is the certificate for the ballot container on election night. It was marked with 1146738. However, after the Board of Candidcers met, the seal was broken to insert the ballot tallied from the Board of Candidcers. And the seal was replaced with 1145716. Did you get that, Cheryl? Sorry. Say it again, Meredith, please. 1145716. So that is the seal. Is the ballot segregated from the rest of the ballots? Or is it just... I believe we put a sticky note on it. Segregate that ballot. All right, so then I'm gonna break the seal. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Yeah. A question. Yes. If the ballot is segregated, how do, does the city preserve the secrecy of the vote if it's separately identical with a voter? We don't know who scope it is still. We still don't know who's ballot it is. You're welcome. So this was the seal when we broke it. That was the original one that was put in the bag after we broke the seal and then that's the new seal. And is there a timestamp on there at your spot? We don't have timestamps, no. For either. Yep, okay. Sure, oh yeah, thank you. That's the new seal. That was the new seal. One, two, three, four, and then six, seven, three, eight, zero, one, one, four, six, seven, three, eight. And the seal over says one, one, four, five, seven, one. No, this one goes with this. Sorry, they marked that one. This one goes with this. Oh, this one. That was the, that was on election date. They must have written down the wrong, sorry. Okay. Yeah. I'm just gonna see if that one's segregated. Yeah, well, when we count them. So we're just going to count right now. So we're going to count to make sure that they match. And then we will get to 25s because 50 seems to be a lot. And look for, we should still, yes. So if you can put them upside down or right side, whatever, or number you're looking for 20, 20. Yes. And then stacks of 25, please. If you find it. Thank you. No, I had to stop. You don't have any. Awesome. Okay. I was waiting for you. One, two, three, four. 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 21. So it's two. Thank you. Did you add the 21? Yeah. Times 547. So did you add these 22? Yeah. That's in there. I had to add the, and then the two that we had from, that we got out of the 19 bag, we're adding now to the 20. And it's 549. So that's the total of that we have. The total on the tape says 548, but that's because that one ballot at the board of pandasers did not go in the machine. So it's 548 plus the one that we counted, which is 549. Can you keep those two separate for the time being? Which two? The two, the two 20s that were in the 19 bag. Did you just add in your hand? I don't know if I, did I put them underneath? Did I put them underneath? And then there's the one, the question, that's the one that's, okay. It's one regular and one absentee. So there's a lot of people on this thing. All right, keep these three. So now let's separate, separate the ballots absentees from the regular, okay. You do have one ballot that's not initialed, that's folded. So tell me it was in person, state statute. So we'd have to call the WEC on that one. Well, I would say that, let people make objections first. Okay. All right, so. So for the record. We have a ballot that's not initialed. It's legally filled up correctly? Did not even, no, we're making the determination by separating them right now, whether they're absentee or whether they're. Are we counting the absentee ballots first or is this supposed to be on a walk-in in person at the poll, because it's not full and. I mean, that would, that's what it would tell me as it was at the poll, but I mean, that's. So to the, to the. We have not done, we have not counted yet. Maybe we may have to count those first and then see if there's an issue with. Put them in stacks of 25. Okay. 25, 75, 100, 125, 20, okay, to make sure. So I'm going to count out, switch. Oh, you put those aside. Oh yeah. This is going to be one, two, three, so. Well, this one's, this one wasn't, this is these two are, yeah, that's the, that's the side. All right, these two. So according to this, yeah, we have, we have two. Okay, hold on. This one, we have 145, 169, 147, yeah, so we need to. Wait, we need to recall it anyway. These are absentees, some of that extra. Okay, hold on a second. These are, these people signed in the wrong. Full workers. So we have several ballots that appear to be signed by full workers that signed in the wrong spot. So we need to go through and if it doesn't say MC or MD, those are all it should say for absentees. Accepted for SBD, yes, SBDs. And then they should have these two filled out. Correct. And not that one. All right. It should have it if it's in, all right, 25s again, please. Can we not talk right now? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I just need to. I'm terribly sorry. That's okay. Two, 25, 11, 136, two here. We have three, which were, which will go over, but those were, they were remade at the polls, which are absentee ballots. That's 141. And then this one. They're under the absentee, that's not nine in those. They're going to bring that back a minute. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They initialed in the wrong spot. No, but here. But these are all the same. First. Yeah. They were initialing in the wrong spot. All right. Let's just count one more time. Just to make sure. This is 25, 25. Well, no, I would just. Count each of them? Yes. Each stack again. Try to go out of a different stack. Okay. I'll slot with you. We have 141. So how many are here? These are three. These are three that go with the, let me just make sure that there are. That's where we're off. I thought we won 142. And that's, this is, okay. This is my understanding of what happened. And I don't know, can I say my understanding or should we, I don't. Well, we should probably make a record of what's happened. Okay. So we have 141 ballots that we can determine. Well, I shouldn't say that there's 136 here that have the proper initials. This is 136. So just for the record, 136 absentee or 130 absentee? 136 absentee. Well, there's so many piles right now. So there's 136 absentees that we can determine our absentees. We have one absentee that was marked from the board of canvases. That makes 137. We have another absentee ballot that was put in 19s that came back to 20 that was asked to be set aside. So that's 138. We have three that are, we have three over here that are marked that were remade at the polls. That makes 141. We have another ballot here that has no initials on it. It's not folded. This, can I, let me just, thank you. All right, let me just make track of it. This one's not folded. When I go to look into the remade absentee ballots, there are four in here. Four spoiled ballots in there. Four remade. So they're not, they're not called spoiled. They're called remade absentees. I had three where the documentation tells me they're remade. I have one where there's not documentation on it. Four in here. That would make 142, which is what we have documented on our absentee log, our inspector statement, and our poll book. We also have a stack. I don't wanna get any of this messed up. So those are 136. This is a stack of one, two, six, seven, eight. We have nine ballots that are initialed in the wrong spot. They are not folded ballots, which would tell me that they're not absentees. They have initials very similar to election inspectors. And I can put them out on the table. These are the ones that are signed in the right spot. But these were signed as an absentee and as an SVD. So they were signed in the wrong spots at the poll book table. So I can put them out if anybody wants to look at, start with these. Can I start with these? Yeah, let's just do one, about a time and let people just, let's make sure they're all SVDs, special board. These are not SVDs. These are not absentees. These are not folded, in my opinion, these are not folded ballots. They marked a poll worker, marked the ballot in the absentee ballot issued by, and in the SVD, another poll worker marked in the SVD spot. Which they should do. The absentee ballot issued by should only be an MD or an MC, a clerk or a deputy clerk. These are not. These look like a DPL or something like that. So. And does DPL match the initials of? Other ballots that were voted in person at the polls on election day. Including these nine ballots, does the count match? This equals 142, if it's determined that this one, that does not have initials, was just not, and we can, when we bring out the remade ballots, we can determine that intent at that time. Okay. But this equals 142. So these would be in excess of the 142 that was? Yes. And remember the count of this 579 matched. So, so. So the count didn't. The total number of ballots was on the table. That's what I was. Yes. So we started out with just the absentee, so we don't know. Yes, we counted them all. We matched them. 579. The total count of all of them is 579. Great. 549. 549. Sorry. Let me correct. 549. That's what I thought. 549. Thank you. That all matched. Okay. So I guess, let's. So just for clarification. Yes. These were just signed or marked human error. Okay. Which were then put into the absentee. Is that correct? They were put with all the ballots. They were put with all the ballots. We are just separating them because we need to count the absentees and we need to match the absentee. But these aren't absentees. As they are signed as absentees. That's what you're trying to determine. We're trying to determine. Because they're not folded. They are not folded. And we can clearly see that. But you do have 142 that are fold. Determining on the intent of these. I am not going to. I don't think that one's folded. So 138 folded plus those four. Would that be accurate? Kind of perfect. Yes. Thank you. What's 136 folded? 136, but no, this one was that special ballot. This one was the ward 20 that was in the ward 19. So we, there's just separate piles. So how did you determine that we needed to look at these? Because. About the word absentee? No, well they signed in the absentee. Uh-huh. This is our deputy clerk. Only the deputy clerk and the clerk can sign in that spot. So this is her initials. Can we find one with my initials down here? She did a lot of initials. She did a lot of initials. A lot of initials. We just stamped in the loft. Yeah, we keep running out of ink. We just do it. Write your initials down there. She did a lot of them. Yeah. She needs to read. That's easy. That's gonna stay there. That's gonna stay there for me the other day. I can write my initials on this one. I was gonna say it doesn't need that. That's my initials. That's fine. If you're good with that, those are my initials. And these are the deputy clerk. That's okay. This photo, it's fine. That's fine. She's done that whole board. Yeah, she probably did those boards when we sent them out. So I guess first we'll do, if there's any objections to these ballots. And the question really is not so much whether there's an objection yet at this point to the ballots, but whether there's an objection to the board of canvassers determining that they are not absentee ballots, but that they are ballots that were voted at the polls for the purpose of the number. And then I think as long as there's no objection to that, then we'll have to deal with whether they should be counted or not. Just for the record, this wasn't noticed before today. We never looked at where it was until today. Well, yes. The poll workers did not know it. No, not judging. No, no, no, I know. No, no, no, yes, absolutely. Okay. And for the record, there are two sets of initials on there, they're just in the wrong place. And I would note that the statute does simply say that the voter is, let me find it here, I had it up. If an elector receives a ballot, which is not initialed by two inspectors or is defective in any other way that the elector shall return it to the inspectors, if the statute does not specifically note about the wrong place. So the elector, him or herself, whether or not they know that they did actually receive a ballot with inspectors on it. So is there any objection, first of all, to determining that these nine, is that the number? Nine. Nine ballots are ballots that were kept at the polls on election day and are not to be counted in the count for absentee ballots. I agree with your statement. You agree with the statement? So then, as long as the Board of Canvassers is in agreement with that, and it looks like for the record, all three are shaking their head, yes, okay. Then the next question becomes whether there's an objection to counting those ballots once we get around to counting the votes on the ballots. Is there an objection to that? No, there's not objection. No, right, so then I would go ahead and put those right in your stacks with the other votes from day up. All right, so that's the first thing. Second thing is that we have three ballots for the record that have for official use only documented on them, which means that it looks like they checked that a ballot was damaged. So we would check the remade ballot envelope, which is pink, and here we find four. This looks damaged, because it's white. But we have four and three. And we have one ballot over here that does not have any documentation on it. Can I ask what tape? Somebody taped it. I can't, I don't know if you can see that, but they remade it because, yeah, the inspector sent it, but they, that's 19. Oh, I'm sorry. I have a 289 absentee ballot rep made. Could we line them up? Because it's the numbers should be on the bottom. 289. This is 393, 404, and this one doesn't matter. I have a 289 of 404, 393, and that's what I have. So we make our determination first, or do we ask? I think what you can do is ask for objection. And I think just to divide it up for simplicity, let's talk about just the three where the numbers match up. Are there any objections to counting the remade ballots, the three remade ballots that have voter numbers identified with them? No, judge. So those can be whatever you need to do with them, but we can... Do we also need to look at both of them and determine that the poll workers on the night of, to match them up for their intent or not at this time? Do we not do that? What is in your manual as far as doing that? That's part of the recount, and we would have to probably either call the recount because we don't match them up unless there's a recount, and this is our first. This is the recount? So then I would suggest that you match them up. So there's not an objection to them, but let's make sure that they match up. Okay. The purpose is a county right now, just... No, but just to understand that they voted, so you have... Well, yeah, we don't need to do this. So this one matches the intent. And you guys see... I'm sorry, the board you should be seeing as well. This one matches with this one. Yes. Yes. Did you guys get a chance to see them? Yes. Okay. Okay. So then what I would do, whatever is part of your process, get them to vote. So are you... So no objections to me putting these three in with the absentee ballots and putting these back in then vote? No objections. Okay. Well, they can go in. So that will take you to 139. So they're... Well, they are marked as being remade. So you would be able to, again, match them up if there was another response. So then those go in there. So now we have one, let's hope... You've got that one ballot and then you have some other ones that you have to determine there, Meredith. No. Okay. So the... The last one. This is the last one. So then the question becomes, what you're saying is that it appears based on your expertise that this is a remade ballot but that the poll workers did not properly initial the ballot. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. So I guess I think what we should first ask is there an objection from either candidate or their representatives to... Thank you, Merge. Sorry, I didn't see it. Yeah. Is there any objection to... I think the first step we have to make is to determine that we should count it notwithstanding our check to make sure that the intent was followed. Is there any objection to counting it notwithstanding that? I don't know the objection to counting but if there's a discrepancy then it could be that this is not the right... That is correct. So that's what I'm trying to get at. Yeah. Let's just see if we have a problem or not. Well, before then I want to state an objection. The other three were properly remade. It appears that the election workers there that day knew it to do and they did it. Whereas the fourth one didn't happen. So that's why I'm objecting. Okay. And that's why I wanted to do it in that order because I think before we determine whether... I think you as a board of candor should decide whether it's proper to take it to the next step which is to compare intent or should you just toss the ballot now without determining intent because the ballot is improper. The only statute that I found on point again really is it's the same statute that I cited which puts the onus on a voter who appears at the polls to return and properly made ballot. This was done actually by poll workers for an absentee ballot. And so I think what you have to determine you have to weigh the consequences of the possibility of defranchising one voter by a mistake that is not their own mistake but is a mistake of a poll worker with the possibility of an improper ballot in some way. What are you doing? Noting... Okay, hold on a second. There is one, two, three. So there is documentation, but not the same documentation and not proper documentation on the ballot but there is notation in the inspector statement that one was torn and remade. Not the same documentation because it happened by Jim Victor. Sorry, different poll worker than the other one. So that is another for the record. It is on the inspector statement that there should be four. So madam clerk, that's in the 104 from the chief or the inspector. Yes, you know 104. So three of them were marked with the voter number of the poll book. And they were the afternoon. And then there was one in the morning. 10 in the morning. 10 o'clock in the morning. That says they remade a tour ballot. So does that change your objection? Yes. So you are no longer objecting to at least moving to the next step, which is comparing the intense on the ballots. Okay, so good to go. I appreciate that. So now we should compare intent. One. We consider it. All right. Okay. That's right. Can we take a break? Yes. The board. And for the record, you... 10 minute break. For the record, you are counting that out. I'm sorry, thank you. This is 140 then? This was 139, that's 140. We have two ballots that are still here, but there's no, there's no, I don't want to use the word objection, but this one was the one that was a word of pandasers. And this was the one that was in word 19. So 140 here, 41, 42. So that one was counted and it's, there has been caused. We have 140 here, and then this makes 141, and this makes 142. And then this is a... And then this was, this was the, that was in 19s. So we wanted to keep those aside. These were in ballot bag 19. But this has already been here. Yes, because that's here. So that would, this would make it 40, yeah. And then this list reflects that ballot was accepted as a... Yes, well we don't know who's it is. So yes, they had a... But the envelopes match. The envelopes match, yes. That envelope is in there somewhere. Yes. We are going to take a 10 minute break till 2.54 please. I think we could stipulate to move those two in a proper stack. Is that okay for you now? Okay, awesome. Thank you. That would help. We need to like break that through. Okay, sorry. So both parties are stipulating that the two ballots that had been in 19 to 20 and be counted as part of World 20, is that correct? Yes. Yes, correct. All right, then we continue. One, two. This is the board, yeah it is. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. This is mine. You're using it? No, it's not mine. Maybe it's mine, that's either. Following a part. Not yet. Not yet. The good thing is you're not doing 300,000 in a week. Right? Yeah, it will take a while. Is this okay on the stinger? Are you staying here for a moment? There should be one more. You're staying here? Yes, I'm staying. Yes, so that's the training floor as well. That mystery ballot's gonna remain marked for the pink thing for the timing, right? Okay, okay. We got our eyes on you, Mary. Yeah, I know. Sort of the cameras. This is on, we made the ballots too, right? Yeah, so that's the training thing. You guys show our instructors on Washington? No, we move people around a little bit because we increased our number of polling locations when we redistricted, so we have 10 instead of 8. So it's a little bit of a shift there for us, but I think it was a good shift. It's always gonna have that option. One point in the end, three words, I was down to seven people. Ooh, it was John. That is it. Yeah. Together for us before. That's when you're getting your steps and jumping from the table to the table. To the table, that's amazing, yep. I could go through it this way. I could do that on the table, yeah, I know. I was getting a little bounce all over the place. I never know if I was supposed to say anything about that. I don't know if we wanna open up a window, but I don't know if I'm gonna open. I know, that's the one thing that is just. Can I throw a chair to the window? Can you what? Throw a chair to the window? We always thought about that too. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Well, the window, do you hear the window crackling before on that thing? It was really nice that, that is the one thing that I missed about it. Just that fresh air too, when you're working, it's just really nice to have a little bit of a, can't complain. For all of your sites with air conditioning for August? No, it would be interesting. There's all those are just the one. Just the one now? We had one before too. There's two, there's two. They can open doors and things. There's ceiling fans and so many, yeah. Half days will be nice if we can do it again. I still like elections in August. That's summertime. That's into my summer. Summer is so short in Wisconsin. But it can be a little cold in the winter once too. You always have to tell them. Right, but I like to like to tell my days in August is what I'm saying. And it's last days to enjoy because then I have to. That is true. So now we're in the dividing. Well, then you've got the two weeks prior to the election day. Right. But you guys do that only in the all of the great people. No, no, it's all good. It's all good, no. That's the old inspector state. Bring that up now. That's not on the list. Those are the rejected absentees. Well, those should stay there for now. The poll book you don't need anymore, right? I can put the poll book over there or should I? I'll get it, wait. Would I not ask that? No, 24 hours. Oh, okay, so you're with the update. Got it, got it, got it. Yes, I'm the passenger. Peter was. I mean, I could put the poll book over there. The base in your experience, would you have it? Of course, yes. I'm gonna give you some more, ooh. I'm eating a lot of candy today, guys, and it's not gonna get any better this week. And a taster. But those are holiday, that's the one thing. Yeah, those are from Christmas. These are from Christmas. Oh, I can go, I can, I still have Valentine's Day in between. Anybody have Valentine's candy? Right. Purge, so if it's Christmas and you still want it too bad. My grandma used to have a dinner party once a year and then everybody got done, whatever. Just get whatever she had. All of the staff, that's the way it is. You can take napkins, like holiday napkins. That's fun. Oh, they're all mixed together. Yeah, so if it's Thanksgiving and you happen to get Easter, that's just holiday fun. You should just do like a holiday party and then you could just, you know, everybody could bring, get a napkin first and then they could bring a dish to celebrate that. We could even match the napkin. Okay, right. Put it in. Yeah. We should do that here. Oh. We had a spam carving contest. Well, that I wouldn't drag it or do. You had to scarf, carve what? Something. I thought that was going to be a harm. Really? Yeah. You had to like, my late husband and I won. What'd you carve? We had little people that we made up that were spam people. I thought it was a lot of recipes. We had little cool-to-skirts on them. Oh my gosh. It was hysterical. Yes. How did you make them? Did you eat them? Huh? Did you eat them? You made them out of spam? Sure. I like spam. So do I. Especially when you open the can and you tip it over and they go, it's the best part. I've heard that many times. That's the best part. Do you get the bacon spam? Oh, you make a BLT. Was that right? No. Have you ever been to the spam museum? The spam museum? Come on. Awesome. Really? So we had an exchange student from Korea. They loved spam. So she was really excited to go to that spam museum. We go that way whenever I go to the museum. I said I have to go there to order online. When I want the Teriyaki spam. Yep. Yeah. How many flavors do they have? Oh, they got all kinds. She came through. She came through. No, it wasn't that kind of an exchange. She was at a private school. She lived with us for a year, but she had been at the school. Black pepper spam. I saw that in Europe. How many varieties are there? Lots. Probably 10 or 12. I can't say anything bad about spam.com. I don't order them. We have one. Rehearsed. I just wrote rehearsed instead of rehearsed. Next. Not yet. I think we'll be on time. Who is Ty? I'm a... All right. 254. We're going to have not many to do with Michael. Just want to make note that in the inspector statement, it does indicate that the first nine ballots were initialed in the wrong spot. So they did catch it and they did document it. So it was a good call to put it away. Where are we? Oh, I said that. I'm sorry. I'm thinking about a fish fry right now. Where it says that? We'll just... Okay. I'm on now. We have those four pieces of paper to say where this one goes. Now we're going to sort somewhere here. I think it was this way. It was. Thank you. All right. We're going to start to sort the ballots. All right. Ready? Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Yes, which one? I'm sorry. Yeah. You're welcome. Joseph. Okay, I'm thinking about getting each one. Andre. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. No votes. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Jose. Jose. Andre. Jose. Jose. Jose. Andre. Jose. Jose. Andre. Jose. Jose. Jose. Andre. Will you hold me back? Andrey, Joseph, Andrey, Joseph, Joseph, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph, I would say Andrey. Just for the record, there's a ballot that is a darker bubble for Andrey and a slight mark for Joseph. Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph, Joseph, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph, Joseph, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Andrey, Andrey, Joseph. Andrea. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Andre a. No votes. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. No vote. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Andre, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Andre, Andre, Joseph, Joseph, Andre, Andre, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Andre, Joseph, Andre, Andre, Andre, Joseph, Andre, Andre, Andre, Andre, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, Joseph. Andrey. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Just store it. That's okay. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. We'll see you at the end of the video. Andrew. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. Andre. Jess SNF vorstellen, accompanying Connor Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, Andrey, so if you do Andrey's, I'll keep it aside then. It's stacked up behind you, okay? If you need to go on the other side of the table, I do, I don't know, how it's easiest for you. Yeah, I would suggest that we deal with that one now, but you can put it in a stack. So do we ask for objections, Trump? I don't remember. I think you probably, in this case, you have to make the termination of the intent. So I would suggest that the board of canvassers of the ballot determines an intent and then determine if there is an objection from either side and then if there is. You ready? Yes. Here's the ballot in question. The vote is that it clearly looks like an Andrey vote. I agree. Three to zero. We think it's an Andrey vote. Right. So then we determine if there's an objection to that. I'd like to object that. The reason I'm objecting is because when you look at the circles for all of the other candidates, none of them have any mark in the, in the non-voted for candidate circle. But I would think this is an overvote because there's a mark in both of the circles. One is obviously more prominent than the other. But none of the other circles have marks other than the intended candidate. So it looks to me like an overvote. I object to accepting this ballot. Response from Mr. Walton's side. It's obviously a vote for Mr. Walton. The machine didn't even consider it an overvote. It would have kicked it out if it had come through that way. And so the dark prominent area is for Mr. Walton. And it should be identified as sorry. I'm going to add to that. But consistently marked extreme. I'm not touching it. Extremely dark and to the side. And every other category that he voted for. So it's that vote for Andre is very consistent with the rest of those. But Edmark is also to the side. There's the same gap on the left. The right side of the oval as the other votes. It doesn't look like that to me. The mark is in the right side. That's my objection. So what I would say is I'm not going to make an opinion on how you should vote. But what I would say is that in determining whether you're going to change your vote based on the objection, a couple of principles that you have to consider is the intent of the voter clear. And are any of the marks spurious, meaning that they're likely to have not been put with any kind of intent. Those are the things that I think you should consider in deciding whether you're going to change the determination based on the objection. So now we're deciding if we're changing our minds after hearing both sides. Right. I am not changing. I'm not changing my mind. So it's for the record, it seems like we have a three to zero vote to count that ballot as a vote for Andre. Well, so we want to put a sticky on that one. And then we do have to put this one in there as well. We didn't sort this one. This was from the board of canvassers. But this is the vote for Andre as well. Is it appropriate at this point to make an objection to this ballot? We have an issue with the chain of custody of the ballot. It's understanding that on election night, the ballots from the machine were sealed in the bag of tags. But this particular was ballot was in a manual folder from Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and it was pulled out Friday. There was no chain of custody for four days. So we have no idea if that's the original ballot or not. Nobody does, because it was outside of the chain of custody. If it was an important ballot, it should have been locked in with the rest of them, but it wasn't. So there's no chain of custody. So we don't know if that is the exact ballot or a different ballot. So we would, we would recommend that that would insist that that not be counted. So let's do that. You're an objection then? Yes. The chain of custody issue. And how would the other side respond to that? Well, it's clearly a vote for Mr. Welton. As you can see, it appears that there was an overvote in a different race. And I think that's what got things kind of unusual here. But obviously with respect to our race, it's a vote for Mr. Welton and there's no way around that. With respect to custody issues, it's always been in the custody of the clerk's office throughout this time period. So I think it's a vote for Mr. Welton. And Meredith, is there anything that you want to add as far as the chain of custody issue? Besides that, all ballots and materials are locked behind two doors when they're returned to our office. There it's, and this ballot, this ballot was outside of the envelope and in the rejected envelope. So we knew this was the only one that was out. We knew where this one was. And it's always been with us. For the record, when was it first understood that there was at least a rejected ballot? Wednesday morning. And between the close of the polls on Tuesday and Wednesday, we recognized that was the, was the ballot kept in a locked space? Yes. So I think, so again, the board of canvassers has made a determination to count it. So now what you're doing is responding to the objection and whether there is sufficient new evidence to overturn the previous determination of the board of canvassers. That's for the current board of canvassers to determine. That would include the fact that the ballot was not sealed with the, with the other ballots. Right. I think it was in the rejected folder. So they've, they've accepted a ballot with no chain of custody. We don't know if that's the ballot or somebody else marked it, or if it was marked for one candidate or another. We don't know anything about that ballot until it was admitted in on Friday. There's no chain of custody. It's not a legal ballot. Is that, if it was a ballot, it should have been sealed in with all the rest of them. Certainly that would fit in that bag quite nicely. It should have been sealed in. It was in the rejected. But that should see if it was a valid ballot, all ballots have to be sealed in that tub or that bag on election night. And this minimal folder would have fit nicely in there with the rest of them. It could have been debated whenever, but this idea that a ballot can show up three days later. We don't know if that's the ballot or somebody switched it. There's no way for us to know that any of us. It'd be very easy to switch a ballot. Very easy. The purpose of the sealed bag is to keep that from happening. So you've got a ballot outside of the chain of custody in this election. And you're accepting that. It was with the rejected ballots. It was always under lock and should have been rejected. No, they get to look at them. That's the unofficial. Madam start. Does the chief inspector's report on the 104. Have anything to say about this? It does. So it was determined at 1035. That the machine rejected an absentee due to overvoting. We did contact this chief inspector to ask her about. Yes. And then she wrote this. Yes. But that was because the ballot was found and she was one vote off. They did market on another sheet as well. That they were one vote off because they put a ballot into the envelope instead of putting it in the machine. So the ballot wasn't secured. It could have been manipulated or switched before date. Well, it could have been. I mean, the point is that these things need to be sealed. These are the artifacts of the election. These are the artifacts of the election. And this one is outside of the scope of that. And it was locked in the clerk's office. It's not locked in a sealed bag with a tag that we can look at the security tag. It's locked elsewhere. It could have been locked in the trunk of a be like who knows, but I think it should not be accepted in this in this election because it's serious. It is outside of the scope of the of the of the artifacts of the election. So why don't we give Mr. Walton's side one more chance. Already asked and answered. And for the same reason that we permitted a ballot without signatures into that the intent of the voter and the what happened is clearly explained. And I was behind two sets of locked doors as was explained earlier this afternoon. So for this reason, the ballot should be kept. So it, you know, the board of canvassers can decide on the ballot. And again, I would note, I think the standard of proof here is that the board of canvassers has made a determination. And so now you're looking to decide whether to overturn the previous determination. And there you would look to the idea of whether there is new evidence that the previous board of canvassers did not have before them. But that's for you. That's for you to determine. And you can decide whether to accept the both to count the ballot or to discard. This has always been in my custody. So I'm going to stand by my decision at the board of canvassers. I'm going to agree with your decision to keep to count it for Andre. I don't think that there's new evidence to overturn what we decided on Friday either. So it's a three to zero vote that we're going to count this ballot for Andre. All right. Should I mark it? It is marked on the back. Oh, yeah. Thank you. So if we could divide these into 25 and I can help. And then we'll switch and count again to thank you. And you want to check to make sure that you're checking the rates as well. I got it. That we sorted it. Yeah. Which are stacks. Do mine. And then I'll do yours. Okay. And then we'll see. You can take 20. No. Double. Okay. These are all stacks. Except on me. Oh, this is for Joseph Heidemann. One stack of 25. Two stacks. Three. Four. To the stacks. 11 stacks. 11 stacks. Okay. That's okay. Okay. That's okay. That's okay. 11. Yes. 11. So that's 275. And then four. What? Sorry. It's 11. Yeah. Callie. Thank you. 275 plus four. Yeah. I got that part. Sorry. Doing that. Okay. Sorry. Girls get along now. What the heck? I asked nicely. Yeah. Are you ready? Andre. One stack. I'm just doing stacks now. Two. Six. Seven. Eight. How many are there? 10. And then what? Nine. And then nine extra. Oh, plus nine. So you added 10 stacks. Other tally sheets too. For 19. What would you like? Oh, yeah, but you need to do those two. Yeah. No, but you're adding them into the total of ballots. No. Because we already did the total of ballots. Oh, that's okay. How many of those are there? You want to know how many? No. Right. No. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. You can choose a girl. No. That's okay. How many of those are there? You want to know how many? No. Right. No. Right. Yes. Okay. So I have the tape. I need the other tally sheets. So the tape for Heideman has 279. For Walton has 258. But it is 259. And it's the one that we put in from the board of canvassers. Because that wasn't on the tape. And zero write-ins. Where are they? Did you just leave it on? Right there. All right. So I lost mine. All right. So we're going to do a grand total then. Put that. Here are the tally sheets. Here's your tally sheets. We didn't have a third one for a grand total. You can definitely write that down on a piece of paper. And put that on the tally sheet. Did you write a piece of the paper just out of there? I have it. I have it here. I don't know why they got down here. 279. 279. Just 403. So for ward 19 it was 124. For dose of vitamins. And for ward 20 it was 279. For dose of vitamins. Which equals 403. Could you do that again please? 124 for ward 19. 279 for ward 20. Which equals 403. For ward 19. For Andre Walton. We have 144. 144. Plus. 259 for ward 20. Which equals 403. Which is where we were at the board of canvassers. Which is with a tie. So at that time we broke the tie. And that stands. If there's any objections to any of that. That was not covered today. Right. So the, I think the first question is, is there any objection to the. Result from either side based on. Count. Based on their account. The account. No. Based on the count. No. Not hearing any objection from, from either side. So then you're right. As, as noted. The. The tie breaker was done at the time. Of the board of canvassers and that tie breaker stands. So there we wouldn't do another tie breaker today. And so that would mean that Joe Heidemann would be the. The candidate. Wait, wait, wait. There's, there's still some. We haven't adjourned yet. We haven't. We celebrated too early. Oh God. Sorry. Okay. I object to that. Well, I don't think that the. Choosing of cards. After the canvas. Appliance. After the. After the canvas. Applies to. After the recount. And one of the reasons that I say that. Is an ordinance that the city of Sheboygan has had for many years. Section 38 dash two. And that says. Whenever two or more candidates for any elective office. Shall receive an equal number of votes. For the same office. And the reason that I say that. The majority vote. Of the common council elect. At such time. And in such manner as the council shall direct. And the reason that I say the drawing of the cards. Doesn't count today. Is that when you have an equal vote at the canvas. Somebody has to be declared the winner. So that somebody, if they want to, can have a. You have to be the person who loses. To be able to demand a recount. So we humbly request that. The canvassing board followed the law. As established by the city of Sheboygan and conducting. Municipal elections. As part of the state. And if I may say one more thing on that. I don't think that's really your decision anymore. I think that's the common council's decision. Your work is done. So is there a response from the other side. When I have to look at. This ordinance is the first. So I can read it for you. 38.2. 38 dash two. Of the municipal code reads tie votes in election. Whenever two or more candidates for any elective. Office. Shall receive an equal number of votes for the same office. The election shall be determined by a majority vote of the. At the time of the election. The majority votes that elected. At such time and in such manner as the council shall direct. I need to also just take a look at. Title of the chapter. Things like that. Well first thing I'll say is that that's superseded by states. So state's. Provides that if there is a tie vote. That the winners to be determined. And the board of campus. That was done. Second I recount is simply for the purpose of determining. Whether or not the original campus was correct. in the amount of votes as done during the recount, then the Board of Camerset shall change their statements and conclusions at that point, but there is no difference. So because there's no difference between the amount of votes that were determined at the original Board of Camerset meeting and here at the recount, there is no grounds upon which to change anything. Any response? I'm not saying change anything. I'm saying apply the law. City of Sheboygan has developed an ordinance. It's been on the books for quite a while and it says it goes to the Common Council. And you failed to notify the Council of Plan. You failed to notify the canvassing board of this Eureka discovery. They put all of us through, what, how many hours of this? Are you serious? The ordinance has been there. You can read the ordinance. It's been there for a long time. The ordinance has been superseded by state law on the Wisconsin Elections Commission. We're following a lot. Wisconsin Elections Commission procedure for how many hours today? This has nothing to do with the jurisdiction of the Common Council. This has everything been determined. It's over. The purpose of the recount was confirmed and it confirmed that there were an equal number of votes at a tie and therefore as applied here in Sheboygan, it's not inconsistent with state law as Council is claiming. It's fully consistent. This is how the city of Sheboygan has chosen to implement municipal elections. I'm not here to question the wisdom of the board of Sheboygan. And the Council that adopted it. I need to respond. First off, section 5.014A provides if two or more candidates for the same office receive the greatest but an equal number of votes. The winner shall be chosen, shall be chosen by lot in the presence of the Board of Canvassers charged with the responsibility to determine the election. Or in the case of an election for a state or national office or Metropolitan Sewerage Commissioner, the commissioner's elected under an irrelevant statute in the presence of the chairperson of the Elections Commission or the chairperson's designee. Two things. First, it says the state statute says shall. The Board of Canvassers shall determine the winner. It's not may determine the winner depending on what the municipal ordinances say. Second, that there's a distinction made in that statute between certain types of elections and there's no exception made for municipal elections. It says in the case of a election for a state or national office or Metropolitan Sewerage Commissioner, there's a different procedure provided for rather than the drawing of a lot. There is no exception made for a municipal election. Third, the statute I just cited was enacted in 1979. Whereas the municipal ordinance was enacted in 1975. Under basic rules of statutory construction, the statute supersedes, it takes precedence over the municipal ordinance and the procedure has been followed correctly thus far. The drawing of a lot was correct. The result was correct. The recount here is determined that the tie vote is the same as it was. There's no grounds to change anything. So as far as the Board of Canvassers is concerned, you have completed your duties. I don't think that there is any need to take any further action on behalf of the Board of Canvassers. You've made your determination that there was a tie vote. You already broke the tie at the meeting last Friday. It may be that someone will go to the Common Council at the Common Council meeting and attempt to apply this ordinance. And I will give my advice at that time. But I will advise the clerk that at this point, it is my advice that you should treat Mr. Heidemann as the person has been elected under the statute. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you for everything. Thank you very much. Can we adjourn? Yes. Thank you. Three, six, go. Three, six, go. Three, six, go. Three, six, go. Three, six, go. Three, six, go. Three, six, go. Three, six, go.