 Welcome to Geneva, I'm Wissis Forum 2022 and I'm joined by Bruno Meier, who is a director of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, known as the IEEE. Tell us about the institute, what does it do? Yes, well IEEE is an association of engineers, it's an association which is a global association which was really started in 1884, it's a very ancient association, which has changed name over time. My role there is I'm vice president of technical activities. IEEE in terms of its technical activities covers a wide range of subjects, which go from energy to computer, communications, radars, satellites and many other topics. And I know your focus is very much around climate change and the role of electronic engineering. Right, just to clarify things, IEEE covers several different topics. Its members are scattered or in 160 countries, more than 400,000 members, so it's very wide. And one of the topics which has come as a priority now is climate change mitigation. It's one of the most popular topics but it's certainly a priority one because IEEE can make a strong contribution to this. Climate change obviously is one of the most challenging issues that humanity is facing today and tackling this problem is certainly a key priority. And what are the benefits of being involved in WISIS Forum 2022? It's been great because I've been in contact with, first of all with other people from different countries who are also involved with the climate change issues. I should say that when people think about climate change mitigation, people think a lot about energy generation, wind power, solar, how electricity is being generated, industry and so on. But it's interesting to remind that, for instance, telecommunications, ICT are also strong contributors, emitters of CO2 and greenhouse gases, so it's important to be working on this. People forget that, don't they? Yes, that's right. We don't realize when we make a phone call or save some data. That's right, that's right. And people think that if you send an email, it just costs nothing compared to paper. It's not like that. Now this meeting was also an opportunity for me to participate to a panel discussion on climate change mitigation and see how we could see the future and what kind of technologies could be used. First of all, what are the main challenges that we face, give some numbers maybe which is always very interesting to see and to look at. And there are some solutions. Some solutions are already here. We see them coming. I mean, over the past 20 years, we've been tremendous growth, for instance, in electricity generation, using wind power, solar power. This is now commonplace. But if you look back 30 years ago, it was reasonably rare and seen as very utopistic kind of solution. It's wacky. Yes, exactly. So there are things which are coming up. So yes, I am optimistic. I think that technology can contribute to this. IEEE has lots of experts in this to give you some practical examples of day to day life. We see a shift in the automotive industry where car manufacturers are saying that they're shifting from petrol cars, for instance, to electric vehicles, electric cars. This certainly makes a big difference. So it's an example of how we can be optimistic. Now, the other way of looking at this is, okay, this is great. Electric cars can do the trick. Now, you may ask, how is electricity being generated? If the electricity is generating generated, excuse me, using coal, for instance, well, then you also emitting CO2. So there is a question of how to increase the share of electricity in industry and day to day life and at the same time generate electricity with less CO2 emission. It's complicated, but thank you for making it as clear as it's possible to do so. Bruno Meier, thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much.