 We have music and concert coming up to really serenade Reverend Jackson, but before then There are lots of questions. I've been getting a lot of emails this afternoon from students who actually are interested In hearing from you Reverend about where we are as a nation One of the questions says is the Trump election the white uprising of 2016 How can we change the systemic mechanisms that benefit white people in America? Can it be done? We've been here before you know in 1861 the choice was slavery of freedom Union of Secession we chose union and freedom. We passed that test 1964 the choice was Goalwater are in the case for statehood segregation Johnson for a new inclusive America. We won that test We didn't win the test last Tuesday, but it is not over. I said it's not over because With a two million popular people vote The people spoke louder than those who opined We must not give up hope Even then it's cloudy, but it does not mean that the Sun is not shining beyond the clouds Don't surrender your spirit Don't turn on your neighbors. It is wrong to ban Muslims It is it is wrong to glorify Tehran on walls in Germany and building walls between us in Mexico. It is wrong Wrong for me and trying to control women's bodies and deny women the right of self-determination It is wrong Wrong it's up because somebody else GBTQ to violate their person. It is wrong And beg the better we fight the right fight and lose simple early And fight the wrong fight and win. Let's keep fighting the right fight I'm curious to know what your reaction was on the night of the election because This was not only a national event, but a global event. The world was watching what was going to happen in the United States What was your reaction? I? was disappointed but Champions play with pain you fall down you get up again Because the ground is no place for champions. You have to play it even with the pain and seek to understand what you're looking at the fact that there is Legitimate economic anxiety and pain to base we've globalized capital But not human rights not international law not women's rights not children's rights If we were playing a basketball game in China We can live without come We were playing a trade game with China. We can't live without come on the athletic side Why we accept the outcome the playing field is even and the rules are public and The goals are clear The referee is fair and the score is transparent That's not true on the trade side. So Fat trade is the answer not isolation. We must learn Fat trade is answer. We cannot Go into isolation. We are one third of our own hemisphere two-thirds of our neighbors speak Spanish English as a minority language in this hemisphere We need bridges not walls We are a great nation because we reach out when we live above international law Human rights and set determination and economic justice. We declare on with the cloud Pre-emptive wars and penal price for it. We must live with and in the world not above it Arrogance precedes the fall the United States is the leading superpower Looking at what happened Tuesday night, you get to travel around the world a lot I'm curious how you think other nations Because the US for a long time has ascribed itself There's sort of a moral authority to call out nations that supposedly are violating human rights or may not be you know Really only up and up even the State Department keeps a list of nations that it claims have human rights violations Nelson Mandela on the bush was listed as a terrorist, you know until it was removed. I'm curious now How do you think all the nations like Egypt and others would now view the United States? Looking at you know, they the the political system here today Much of our moral authority is our own self-described label Someone say the other day that we've been a great democracy for two and the forty years that counts in 1776 African African landing here night in in 1690. We were here a hundred fifty-seven years before 1776 didn't we matter as work without wages? We went from no rights to three-fifths of a human being From that to Jim Crow from that to segregation We are we we have before us the challenge of becoming a moral authority and now we find ourselves growing increasingly arrogant There's there's strength and humility and not an arrogance in love not in hate If your neighbor's house is on fire You saw look at the ball game my here's sirene my neighbor's house on fire Well, I know he was a house on kitchen fabric us He drinks and smokes and sifts pot and all kind of drugs and wouldn't sleep with cigarette burning into his house So far he has a problem. He does have a problem, but the wind blows and you live next door None of us are safer than all of us are safe. We are each other's keeper in the world where If you could you if we go on the plane in New York one going to Senegal one going to LA we get there by the same time Science has dwarf distance and in technology as distance his distance has shortened time There are no more foreigners in this world Everybody sees where everybody's doing in real time And so learning to live together as a moral challenge. I hope that we're up to that task and now I want This universe to remain a moral sanctuary for caring for people Chef for all your classmates Chef for all of your classmates and all your faculty members. We all matter at U of M Set the pace for the nation. We number one not just when you play our way, but So I mean Be no more when you play Ohio State So, you know, I was looking at the images across the nation the protest in New York in Chicago across the land Normally those images come to us from the television screens around the world when Nations do not accept the legitimacy of their governments. They take to the streets of protest to basically Um register legitimate discontent about the president and about the leaders themselves But for the first time perhaps in recent memory recent history. We're seeing in the united states Massive protests thousands of people across the nation Registering legitimate discontent. What do you make of that? And what does that say about the u.s? Mexican children the other day crying For fear that the parents would be deported There were some young Muslim girls who were upset because the hijab had been stacked from their heads And if that happens in the one of your classmates embrace them You must be your own private sanctuary for your classmate Your friend your neighbor. We cannot say either but to be silent is to portray our conscience We must not be silent in the face of these violations of human rights The black American That's why I said make a link there There's a tug-of-war for the soul of america Shall it be aristocracy for the few and and then make a lot of money and pay no taxes Or shall it be a democracy for the minute? Shall it be one person one vote or should we Assume that one corporation is one person which is so absurd and vulgar. Who are we? We have the dinner to crisis. We must be that land that we talk about giving your tired You pull your hungry Your whole mass of urine to breathe through what makes us great is embrace those who yearn for freedom Who yearn for dignity? As universities like the south your students on this campus will fear Being put out of class and deport deported after next semester We must take a strong stand against having our classmates deported. We must be each other. Thanks very much I know you you just spoke with um senator bernie sanders. I'm curious as to your take What do you think was What was it that was underestimated about this election that has proven those perhaps who were thinking optimistically You know supporting their other candidate hillard clinton wrong. What was what was it that was underestimated about this election? It was this bigly Democrats were anxious that basically they were excited that hillard clinton was going to win So obviously they underestimated something about the election that uh pivoted to trump a two issues once you did win In a democratic society the popular vote matters And a suppressed vote matters and as a consequence between the popular vote lead And suppressed vote that dynamic equals victory And we would not do well to assume that popular vote does not matter Anybody do that would accept uh In your cities emergency managers rather than elected officials Elected officials you get elected one day and they're going to give you an emergency manager the next day That that's the kind of electoral college We demand the right to elect the officials represent us and let one person one vote stand And I was certainly hoped that we would not give up on that I think so long while there are those who want to make second amendment of priority As the first amendment is first because the first amendment is a priority Use your right to demonstrate but do something nonviolently with discipline Goals targets time demonstrations matter when they're clear and focused and nonviolent President Barack Obama the nation's first African-american president has less than two months in office in your remarks You said he should offer a preemptive as you call it. Uh, pardon for Hillary Clinton Are there other items or list of things that you would like? Obama do before he exits the white house. I think first of all in some perspective when he came in office We lost 800,000 jobs that month You had a net gain of job every month since that matters The banks when a global meltdown They've been revived Not connected to reinvestment and lending but revived Uh, the automotive industry had gone down Even the Americans were laughing at low quantity costs coming out of Michigan Now we're number one again Putting me in the Americans have health insurance that did not have it before Some I said well the problem of affordable health care is it balloons at the end If a new car comes off the lot and the brakes are not working the steering wheel not working Don't destroy it. You recall it and fix it Don't go backwards from affordable health care people who don't have jobs and make little need affordable health care more than ever And so There are two things you could do one is uh, if you were just look at Detroit for a moment If we think creatively for a moment If that's a commitment that we have 100,000 big homes in the Benderlots in Detroit and about the same in Chicago To remove lead paint jobs to Do landscaping and cut the weeds and the bushes down And use SBA loans to put entrepreneurs in business jobs To demolish those homes and businesses that can be used for a long time And not be restored jobs Where there are boards put up window paintings and put in painting and glazing and roofing That may be more jobs and people that jobs are a priority Let put America back to work be a priority That's what Dr. King's last mission And so we needed a White House conference on violence causes and cures All you'll do is dust off the chronic mission report Violence causes and cures The most heavily armed nation on earth um We lost about 6,000 soldiers in iraq in 10 years In 30,000 a year at home We are the most violent nation on earth We can't deny it and we certainly should not brag about it and When the idea of allowing Military assault weapons to be sold on commonplace There's no defense against these weapons I don't know what an executive order can do but These are these weapons can shoot down planes They shoot up churches and theaters. We must ban military assault weapons And I repeat I don't miss understood about this in the business Lincoln could have taken a position given the civil war where Calhoun and Lee and those guys Sought to overthrow our government They could have been convicted and harmed tried executed Lincoln said for the good of our nation Let's heal the wounds of war And go forward and he forgave them And and pardoned them And there was some consternation because there was one of him to punish them He'd done thousands of Americans were killed more than any other war since that time But Lincoln chose healing and not hurting You said we're the same as came with Nixon There were those who just wanted one of the salillum Nixon given for water getting met and there would have been a kind of Gratification for some we found they got him President Ford said no, we don't need him for truth. We need him to move on Let's go on with the nation's business And by the way, Nixon was not tried Was not convicted And didn't apply for a pardon Ford made an executive order in the national interests of America Hillary Clinton has not been tried or convicted been facing all those hearings But they're those who want to drag off the next three years into making a Decision of them of defining who we are It's not fair. It's not necessary if you unleash a special prosecutor They have godlike powers more than even attorney jones cannot stop them Presidents cannot stop them They were not stopped. They find some reason to put her in jail. What the travesty that would be How did vice power necessary? I said no only pardon her But there are several thousands several thousand other americans who paid their federal dues for the crime they committed And part of them too a kind of emancipation proclamation. Let's start over again Now i'm not i'm not talking about let those in jail out. That's not what i'm discussing Then they're paying that the those who've served their time and are out, right? They say that the burden of the label of ex fellow Many of them can't vote and they can't function and we reduced that that we reduced the damage and reduced their person We reduced their productivity. What's the purpose of the judge gives you five years? Washington society to give you 25 more so There's another issue that i want to bring up because you talked about putting america back to walk uh the flint water crisis What happens to flint now Flint needs water bottles not water pipes not water bottles The people of flint Stand out there there are other places in michigan with water as poisonous as a word and flint It just says says that i i'm inclined to believe that there have been A lot of publicity around flint If there were commitment to in if that's the infrastructure project You put steel workers back to work and Pipe for those construction people back to work Save lives in the environment in the environment. We have no idea the impact of Water would heavily on the lives of children the rest of their lives Flint is a national disgrace and should be a national barricade this governor Has a six for the million dollar rainy day far another diamonds go on the flint Flint is raining in flint raining down poison The fellow government calls flint a uh an emergency not as a disaster So the fellow government offers five million rather than 95 million Flint is a disaster zone and these recovering now Flint deserves recovery now Towards the end of the bush We saw the auto industry crisis towards the end of the bush administration obama prison obama came in And rescued the industry now we're seeing the flint water crisis What do you expect or should we expect what should be done as it relates to the administration of Donald trump Well, he has said that the priority for him And it may become a run issue is to invest in infrastructure It should as a way between put america back to work. We have several trillion dollars In offshore taxes that have not been paid. He understands how that works and uh That should be a system of range a difference made To bring that money back to america Togged it for reinvestment. These inner cities need more than a bank. Dr. Cecil They need development banks When we say marshal plan, we're not talking about the amount of money in marshal plan may have been 13 billion What made the marshal plan significant was in a zone. It was 50 years long tremolo interest loans in these inner cities that have been demonstrated by bank exploitation And government lack of investment And by various forms of of escape We need none of that to redevelop them but a banking system for those zones for reconstruction We know how to reconstruct nations that we should apply it at home You you talk about detroit and reconstruction a lot and I spoke to the mayor's administration this week for a column tomorrow about How the city of detroit responds to the trump administration Um, how do you think or what should urban cities do chicago, detroit, washington? You name it across the nation How should they relate to the new administration in washington? We need economic reconstruction But but we cannot trade off how we treat our neighbor I want a job But the price you pay for it cannot be To violate people's human rights We can do both You can rebuild schools without having children in school crying fear and deportation You can rebuild cities without having Without banning Muslims you can rebuild cities without xenophobic language and behavior So that the issues not shall we reconstruct The cities that we reconstruct relationships Is 2000 we should have 2000 miles of border at mexico 2000 miles We do more trade with mexico on the given day than we do with china and japan Do you want to make your next neighbor an enemy? It's irrational Mexico is a gateway to south central latin america That's why I said as we think globally not just Locally and see the world through a doing not to kill We are six percent of the world's population In putin in his mr. Trump's group represents six percent Most that one eighth of human race is african one fourth of nigeria Puthers by neighbors of latin americans most of them in the world today are yellow Brown black non-christian poor Female young and don't speak english in that world Was lead the world in coexistence and not threaten core knowledge in that world We must live together I want to run some names by you These are these are being talked about as potential picks cabinet secretaries for the new administration don't do that to me Rudy Giuliani the former mayor of new york has been Mentioned as a potential the number one diplomat for the united nation for the united united states alabama senator jeff sessions is also His name is in the in the ring as a potential attorney general What is your take so far about these names that have been put out here? make america read again I mean They represent their party it seems to me that that some people got to make some decisions like I Really voted for him But i'm willing to excuse all of this stuff to get to him because i might get a job You should not risk filing your name even for a job We need jobs We also need decents and dignity in the sense of humanity as well And i'm concerned That as we look at these some of these names that have been surfaced that They made do our nation home But that the if we if we can see this election and don't fight for the suppressed vote And in December 19th, which is the day the electors elect We'll have to live with that for a season it will not be a pretty picture because The rule is not standing by waiting for us to violate them We isolation is not the way of the world Globalization is the way of the world, but it must be balanced globalization It's interesting that our telecom and our Trans media has a balanced system But economics do not and so we must balance our global economics Also, most people realize we're not a part of the of the world court So we on all the poor nations Only violate a poop for the world court But we should we should we should not live above the world court We should all commit our simple justice when your school plays a higher state in a few days from now On the real side You want to win the game you really geek to win the game And if it's 10 yards for every first down And 6.4 touchdowns You can accept the outcome The one school has to run 12 yards for first down the one has to run eight yards You can't accept outcome. It's just out of justice peace comes out of justice the sense of fairness uh, and you cannot favor The teens wearing the gray and red or the teens wearing blue and gold It must be a sense of fairness. We seem to have given up On justice as a reasonable standard Justice is reasonable It is often said Reverend that you know A true function in democracy has to have a vibrant press We've seen a pattern now since Donald Trump's election Picking up a fight with the media this morning. He was on twitter with the new york times Any concerns about the role of the media here in moving forward, especially after this election lessons learned Well, one lesson learned is that the media can that the media is a lot to promote from And was not as Did not critique as well as it should have critiqued But we need a free and vibrant media and we cannot and social media opinions Are not the same as well-trained journalists who thank you in the research I mean the social media opinions cannot compare with the well thought out story We must not give up on that narrative I have two more questions We've seen before this election The new wave we talked about this university of Missouri diversity equity and inclusion and so forth But going back to the civil rights movement It's well documented that you know the movements for social change actually started on student campuses For some this moment represents perhaps a new era a new civil rights movement or perhaps reignite in the past What role do you see students playing? On university campuses across this nation at this point in time Being a source of conscience used their freedom to mature into a sense of social justice I remember 19 years old going to jail with seven classmates Chinese the public library. I came into my sense of maturity within the country losing my fear Of jails and death by going to a jail And then other jailings fighting to open the doors The good news is what keeps my hope alive is that We have these dark moments, but we're winning When I look at Carolina Panthers put Atlanta Falcons They couldn't have been behind the cotton curtain was it been illegal you couldn't have had the Olympics behind the cotton couldn't Atlanta Georgia couldn't have had CNN in Georgia couldn't have had South Carolina's a number one producer of tires behind the cotton curtain. You can have had the greek climpson Alabama game behind the cotton. We are more civil but it's just like swimming from Britain to france. It's not the distance that's The tackles from mr. On the current and that is in life Uh on the currents They're cross wins. That's unanticipated And sometimes these wins knock you down. You cannot look for the First play the grass alone. You got to get back up and keep fighting. I repeat again Deep water does not drown you You drown when you stop kicking Paul said that was a shipwreck one time And people wouldn't climb the panic. He said well some Uh made it on boards And some of them broken pieces a few days ago John Graves I was walking down the street And I saw like really didn't see it because I slipped and fell broken sidewalks And a rudder growing on the one of the trees and lifted the sidewalk and it was kind of lifted And I look back at where I had fallen And in that crack There was some grass coming out Just a little daylight a little sunshine a little water Life sometimes comes with the cracks Sometimes it does not come in whole pieces It's fine life Where it is and let life express itself Even semen cannot suppress it ultimately We the people in the end in the end right will prevail Southern breeze character In character breeze faith in the end faith will prevail It is about on that belief that we go forward and don't surrender That's a nice segue Reverend to my final question next week is Thanksgiving There are lots of families who will be having Thanksgiving, but in fear in a state of fear on show What will happen the next day the next week in January? What do you say to those families? That you know might have a different Thanksgiving this year because of the climate in the nation today Well, if I were a turkey, I would not organize the Thanksgiving dinner. That's the first That's the first got that point The turkey should not organize things you would do this got that point regularly. Yes Well We cannot settle for people having A meal a day a year people need to have the capacity to have a balanced meal Every day. That's the first issue second issue Some of the great heroes and heroes of our time are people who in world war two who found threatened jews And gave them sanctuary their lives were defined by providing for frightened people's sanctuary A little love would do if there is some student some classmate of yours Who you know is anxious and maybe crying night because The fear of deportation Maybe don't take them home for Thanksgiving with you and be kind and not only should your school be a sanctuary and not And fight for policies that protect mean you have students in this university right now Who have come against great odds? And they're doing well in class, but they fear being deported We can mobilize and fight for policies that stop that from happening I think if we mobilize The worst may not happen It is it's silence that's betrayal When we didn't have the right to vote we got the right to vote because we marched The discipline and all I'm saying to you is that Fight for the protected right to vote What makes a great american right great is the right to fight for the right Fight for football health care Fight for student loan debt reduction Fight to forgive student loans Fight for that which is meaningful you fight for supreme court justice The moral is supreme not the supreme and their power and keep fighting And there are checks and balances You know Trouble not be to move on America like you moved on a hotel There are checks and balances Because I interest one reason why he is not going to move The way on affordable care. He thought he was because I mean if his constituents need affordable care There are people who were so confused until They wanted affordable care, but they didn't want Obama care They wanted Omelet, but didn't want eggs But now they will find out thank you very much