 I think the people who really stuck that I still relate strongly to, I think Max Sterns is probably maybe at the top of the list. I was really into early Rauschenberg. I liked early Jasper Johns. I really liked the images or the Harry Who people out of Chicago, the underground comic people like Robert Crum and Musco sowing. I'm from Southwest Georgia. My father was a barber. My mother was a beautician. So I come from a family of scissors wielders. My father would take me to new car show rooms and we would come home with multiple copies of brochures. I would cut the cars out of the multiple copies and then glue or tape them together into these really, really long cars. We also did album cover art. My friend Jim Holmes and I did the Almond Brothers Eat A Peach. So I've always been a thrift store shopper and I found a pink felt pillbox hat which I crushed into more of an oval shape and then I spray painted the top of it black. So basically it looked like a vagina and I entered that in the so-called most beautiful object contest at the University of Georgia and won.