 This is quantum healing with Candace, and it is the 4th of August, 2018. And it's been a while since we've had a show, and the first thing I wanna know from people out there is can you see me? Can you hear me? And how is our image quality? Because the last time I did this, I had a little bit of problem, so I wanna make sure that that is working out okay so that we can continue going. And let's see, I'm gonna click on my other computer over here. And all right, there we go. Oh my gosh, guess who's watching? Pamela, oh, Pamela. Crystal and I love you so much. Oh my goodness, okay, so it looks like we are on. Welcome, everyone, and welcome, Chrysola Lewis, who is coming to us all the way from across the pond in Ellsbury, England, and we are going to talk today about modern day spiritualism. Now, I personally didn't know much about spiritualism, and then I had me a visit over at Chrysola's and went to a spiritualist church, and we thought it would be a fun show today to talk about that a little bit. So welcome, welcome. How is everything in your hometown right now? It's raining cats and dogs where I am. What's the weather like for you? Just so hot, Candice. Again, it's just this unbearable heat that we haven't had in many years. So it's just dealing with that, yeah. But it's lovely, it's lovely. We can't complain. If I had a pool, I would be next to the pool all day. All right, well, very, very well. So why don't you go ahead and give us a little bit of background about what spiritualism even is and what the heck is a spiritualist church for those of us who haven't heard of it before or don't know what that is? Yes. So I guess there'll be a lot of fascinating facts that will come out today. And I feel like I probably will have to start with a bit of a history lesson. So in the mid 1800s, there was a family called the Fox family, especially the Fox sisters. Have you heard of them before? Nope, this is new for me. So I'm sitting at the edge of my chair. Tell us about the Fox sisters. So the Fox sisters started hearing noises in the house and it was like clicks or knocks. And this was in America in Heightsville. I believe that's in New York. So they established a form of communication for the spirit world through knocks and they established it was a intelligent spirit by saying, two knocks for a yes, one knock for a no. But then even further, they would say, or they'll do 10 knocks or clicks and then the spirit would mimic that. Now part of our religion is science. So they went through various experiments of how this works, how the spirit side communicates. And this raised a great interest within society. You know, what is spiritualism? Does it mean there's life after this life? What happens when we die? And not only that, there was a lot of other people that came forth to say, I'm having similar experiences. I'm hearing noises, I'm being touched. What is happening with all these paranormal stuff happening around me? Can we explain that? So very fascinating. And with controlled experiments with science, there was through, I guess scientists would set up controlled conditions for them for the communication. And through an experiment, you would record your findings and you'd report back on them. But there was occasions where things just didn't happen. So they'd have communication one evening and the next there probably wasn't anything because they said spirit wasn't there to communicate. And hideful is very much celebrated within the spiritual field. We celebrate hideful as part of our spiritual religion. And I don't really like the word religion because I feel it's a way of life. It's just who we are with spiritual beings. But later in life, the fox's sisters, unfortunately, did come forth. And I believe they said that they made the clicks and the knocks through their knuckles. But nevertheless, it helped spiritualism. It boosted us and it brought people back into the churches where they belonged, right? So lovely. And even today in our own spiritualist church, our church is full and it's so lovely to see these evenings where we panic that we don't have enough chairs to sit the people. But yeah, that's the start of modern day spiritualism. And even when you think of back in the day in the mid 1800s, you still had the witchcraft act in play. So if you were found out to be doing things that is supernatural that the people didn't like, you would be called out to be a witch. Now, I don't know how that applied to the fox's sisters exactly because I didn't think they were affected under the witchcraft act. But later in later years, to skip a bit of history, we had an amazing medium called Helen Duncan. So she was Scottish and she was the last medium to be prosecuted under the witchcraft act of 1735. And that was her just being a medium and she did physical mediumship as well, especially through the wartime era. She helped a lot of people and I guess a lot of people wanted to communicate with those lost loved ones who have crossed over in the wartimes. But the thing is with the witchcraft act that was still in play, you were only really protected if you were in the spiritualist national union here in the UK because if you operated within the church they were able to protect you. And she was warned that if you work outside of the church that you stand a chance to be prosecuted and you are at risk. But she didn't really take any notice of that because she were working for spirits and she knew it was the right thing to do. So she traveled all around the country up and down doing her physical mediumship and I'll go into that in a little while to explain what that is. But she was eventually prosecuted and I think now she has been cleared a name has been cleared recently but the fraudulent mediums act was taken to the High Court with the SNU. The SNU did step in when that happened. What's the SNU? The Spiritualist National Union. Okay, got it. The Spiritualist National Union did step in and they did try and help her and they did stand up not only for her but for all of us that are spiritualists because basically just performing what we believe is natural and a way of life was illegal for many of us. We couldn't perform anywhere that was seen not right or not within the church. So we were seen as charlatans working on the streets taking people's money and the Witchcraft Act through the help of the Spiritualist National Union was taken away but when you take something away you have to replace it with something else. So it was replaced with the Fraudulent Mediums Act and that was 1951. So if you were seen to be a fraudulent medium then again you would be prosecuted but that meant that mediums all over the world was able to practice their mediumship and the communication with spirit freely without the fear of being prosecuted, killed or thrown into jail. So let me ask a couple of questions. Not that I expect you to have an inside outside know all across the world but how did it compare with the Salem Witch Trials and the things that are very famous in America during the time what was going on in England was it about the same kind of thing going on in both places at the same time? Did it affect each other? Yep, well funny you say that I was reading about the Salem Witches last week and it seemed like yes it did affect them as well but even the Salem Witches what they believe in was also passed as a religion. So I don't know much about what they believed in or how they practiced but I believe that they were also assisted or helped by becoming a religion themselves and moving away from being called a witch. Crystal, you and I had the most amazing opportunity didn't we in May? We got to spend some time with beautiful Magenta Pixie and we were in this quaint little village and I'm gonna forget the name of the woman who lived there what was her name and then she wasn't she the one who like moved sailed to America and then wasn't it Salem and wasn't isn't that how it all started? I'm not remembering very well I'm afraid but interesting how all these dots are together and Magenta was telling us a little bit about how this woman actually started a lot of this you know state sign. Well I guess if you look back in history there's a whole lot of things we can discuss and you know we have so much and so many pioneers that have made their footprint and mark within our spiritualist religion from healers to mediums to trans mediums and moving into physical mediumship you know it's so vast and the mediums back in the day they were astonishable, astonish, amazing what's astonishable? Astonishing, yes amazing. You know they started practicing at a really young age and they were brilliant and amazing but they lived in a different time than what we live now as well so we can't really compare ourselves even though it does seem like we don't have as many physical mediums or trans mediums now than what we had back then and it doesn't seem like there are as many powerful mediums now as what they were back then but time's changing and we have to think about when all those popular mediums and pioneers were at work was during the war times and through death and violence and people were filling the churches because they wanted to know what's going on. Yeah, another connection we have is we both were at the College of Psychic Studies in London and you know before I even got there you prepped me for all of those amazing photographs and newspaper articles and things on the wall you know you and I didn't even have time to go through and look at all of those but it may be a good time to talk about that right now because I saw some things that I really wondered about some of the photos I looked at I thought you know I don't care even if they are cocky to somebody I'm not buying that photo I mean I'm too good with Photoshop to be fooled by what I think I saw in some of those photos and yet one of the newspaper articles and one of the ones that I know that you had mentioned and that I noticed in red was the one with the hands. Oh, fascinating. Yeah, so tell everyone about that because that was crazy and that's part of all of this, right? Yeah, definitely, most definitely. So I can't remember who the hand was from but I know there's a mold of this hand in the College of, the other family college in Stansted, I've seen this hand and it's quite a big hand so what happened was a spirit person was manifested through physical mediumship, okay? Now, when we talk about physical mediumship is when someone can go deep enough to basically step out of their body they're not disconnected completely they're still them but they're disconnected enough so that the spirit beings or re-halem can come into you, okay? And through the ectoplasm within your body I think it is held within the liver can be used and it comes out of any or every hole, okay? It can come out of anywhere. I can't hear that. Okay, sorry. Okay, so the ectoplasm comes out of the medium and through this can manifest a physical person that you would be able to see and recognize as they were when they lived here on the earthquake. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a second. Let's slow down here. So the physical medium opened up one of their bodily holes and out of it came ectoplasm like out of the nose like out of the ears, yeah. And a stream of it comes out into space and created this hand. Yes, so great at a hand. And because the spirit was so intelligent they had a wax already prepared and the spirit person put their hand into the wax and was able to form a physical hand mold from this person who walked the earth plane. And if I remember correctly, and if I'm right, in my remembering, they did send this mold off because there was actual fingerprints within this mold which they were able to analyze. I was just gonna ask about the fingerprints. Wow, that's crazy. But it was done in a day when I'm, you know, I mean, kind of thank goodness we're not all fingerprinted yet but how interesting is that they were able to get that much detail from ectoplasm? I have a picture here I can show you. Hopefully it comes up on the camera. So basically that is how it will look like. Yeah, oh my goodness. So normally in normal conditions this would be done in the dark and not in daylight. And it is so amazing when in a trance state, in deep physical trance state that with the same ectoplasm, they can form a trumpet next to the medium. And if there isn't a physical form, there could be a voice. And through this trumpet, they could speak to you as they did in their own voice when they walked on the earth plane. Sometimes they struggle, sometimes they struggle because they need to remember. They need to remember how to do this. So the trumpet itself is made out of the same stuff that the hand was. Yes, yeah. And when you look at a physical seance where you will attend these things, normally the rooms would be really clean because it's like a Muslim. It's sticky, it will feel like cloth when you touch it for what I've read. And it will pick up any dirt or anything that's around it. So the normal conditions need to be clean and very hygienic as much as possible. And when a medium is in such a high state of, you know, when you go into trance, you go into just a very, very high state of, I forgot the word. But you cannot, it's like when you're in deep meditation and someone walks into you, you will jolt, right? Now, when a physical medium is in such a sensitive state you cannot disturb the medium in any way because that ectoplasm will bolt back into the body and will leave burns and scars on the medium. So I was gonna ask that anyway, after the ectoplasm comes out and it forms whatever, it always goes back into the medium? Yeah, it does. And so that ectoplasm then, does that mean it is a part of the medium's physical form? It's just, interesting. So, okay, I'm sorry, I'm gonna be, I'm trying not to be flip about this or anything, and not that you would know this answer, but so I'm wanting to poke holes in this. So if like a trumpet or a hand was there, someone were to come in and like, I don't know, grab that and take it out of the room. What would happen? I mean, what's that? What would that be like? What would happen to that stop when you left the room? Well, that's exactly what happened to Helen Duncan when she was, it was her physical mediumship that killed her in the end, not because she was doing physical mediumship, but because people, the police were blasting into the room, trying to catch her in the act doing fraudulent mediumship. So when they did that, exactly that happened, right? You had these things manifested and the police went for her, dashed, tried to catch this Muslim, or what they said was like a Muslim, and it just went through their hands. They couldn't grab hold of it. And as that happened, the ectoplasm moved back into the medium and there was reports of, oh, it was a piece of cloth, the cloth was thrown out the window, she must have swallowed the cloth. So yeah, it just moves back into the body. But then if you're in a physical circle, you will know the risks of the medium. You'll respect the conditions and the medium and know what can hurt the medium, what is allowed and what's not allowed. Like you can't, no bright lights is allowed, for example, because that will hurt the medium and because the ectoplasm is from within your body, it's not used to bright lights, unless they're accustomed to become used to it, used to the white light. But I think we've jumped a few steps. Yeah, I'm sorry, I got excited to ask you these questions. It's just kind of so amazing, some of these stories. So the interesting thing is, like you said, the police ran in to try to prove fraudulent mediumship. So does that mean if they could grab onto the whatever and it would have been real then, it wouldn't have been fraud, it would have been real mediumship? I mean, how weird is that? I mean, it's a very, very strange situation. I know, and it was really difficult for her as well because this all happened during the Second World War and the High Courts just didn't have time for cases like this. So even Churchill said, you know, I can't deal with this right now. And she was just jailed. She, and even though the spiritualist wanted to prove mediumship was within the courts, they said, no, we don't have time for that. We have more important matters at hand. So she didn't even really get a chance to prove herself innocent. All right, so back me up, Priscilla. What did we jump over? Yeah, I got excited to ask you questions. No, that's okay. Well, okay, so we've gone through the Fox Sisters and that's really what started the movement into spiritualism. We've gone through the Witchcrafts Act and where we are now in modern day spiritualism where we can perform mediumship within our churches. So let's talk about more about what the church is about. Now, even though I don't like the word church, but we are a religion and I know there's a lot of people who find... Religion is a touchy subject, isn't it? And even a church. But for me, I grew up Christian and even though the Christian churches were okay, I didn't think it really aligned with what I questioned and believed in because what my parents told me what happened after this life really just didn't make sense. I just couldn't accept their answers. But even when you look at the spiritualist church, when I went in there for the first time, it didn't feel like a church at all. It just felt so homely and so lovely. And yes, you sing hymns and there's prayers, but that is what religion is about. And it's just amazing how people come together and hear spirit talk through normal people and they've just refined their abilities and worked on their abilities as a medium. And all of us are mediums, all of us. And it's just about practicing and fine-tuning that ability. So we have a normal spiritualist church who would have three services. They'll have a healing service, a mediumship service and a divine worship service. So a healing service is where you can go and receive spiritual healing. Instead of asking for Kuan Hian or angels, you would just ask for spirit to come in and do the healing. So we'll just be spirits working. Yes, maybe other beings would come in as well if you call them in yourself as the patient. That's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. So spiritual healing. And most churches just work on a donation, which is amazing, right? You don't have to pay a lot of money. Sorry for all those out there that does do professional healing. But yeah, for the spiritual, we give spiritual healing and normally it's a small fee or a donation. And the same goes for the mediumship evenings. I wanna say clairvoyant because lots of them say clairvoyant evenings, but it's mediumship evenings where you'll have 45 minutes, those services are normally an hour with notices, prayers and a hymn or two, but you'll have 45 minutes where it's just mediumship, where a medium will stand there and connect with you, connect with your loved ones and you don't feed the medium, right? You don't feed them any information. So they will just literally come to you and give you all the information that Spirit gives them, okay? And how amazing is that? Especially when you have your own experiences, you go to a church and the medium gives you that confirmation. So the same as a healing, you can give a donation and each church is different or there could be a small fee. Now when it comes to divine worship service, which is normally on a Sunday, the only added things to the service, those services are normally longer, will be a reading, a reading out of any spiritual book, which is really nice. It could be the re-invert you, it could be conversations through God, it could be poems, mindfulness readings, it could be anything that you feel will inspire the congregation for the week. And then on top of the reading, the medium will give an address on what you've just said, which is philosophy and philosophy is also a major part of our religion to teach about the way of life and us as spiritualists. And it's funny because I go to philosophy class once a month and this week, the person running the class said, please talk about the rising interest rates. I think that was interest rates and make it spiritual. So that's all we had to do. And it's possible and you can do it. You can take anything and turn it into a spiritual conversation or debate and talk about how we are so much more than what we think and we'll ever know. You know, that's a, there's a very common saying that the mark of genius is to be able to connect to disparate ideas. And those seem like some pretty disparate ideas. I'd be really interested in knowing what did everybody stand up and say something then in your class? Is that the way that works? Yes. Yeah, well, all of us spoke or did a talk and philosophy on rising interest rate, which was very interesting. I don't know what's interesting about rising interest rate, but lots of, there was one that did spirit communication because she has a test coming up and she needed to practice and to do that, to get certain qualifications because the spiritual national union does have a standard. We do want to be the voice of spiritualism and we wanna set a good example for those who come through our churches. So we want good mediums on the platform. So we do put them through testing and we do make them practice, go to other churches, talk about philosophy. So one person did the mediumship practicing for today. So I hope they're past. And the other person did a talk on philosophy because she will also be tested today. So hers was very specific to also the history and what our religion is really about. That's amazing. I had so much fun going with you to the church because you are very active in the church there, aren't you? Yes, yeah, I do chair the odd service and I'm the secretary of the church. So I do have a lot of involvement with what's going on and what events to put on and I've input with that. So it's really nice. I love doing it and I wouldn't think of not doing it or doing anything else. So, yes. And the divine worship services are free because that is what makes us a church and a religion. So if ever you feel you don't have a bit of money to give and you need to hear from spirit or from someone in the spirit will just go and see where your nearest spiritualist church is. But it's also important to note that when you walk into a church or any medium for that matter, it's difficult when someone says, I wanna connect with A, B or C because that's not always possible. They could be in a place of healing. They could be not, I don't wanna say advanced enough but they might not have the energy to come forth to communicate. But you will get communication and the communication you will receive is exactly what you need. So, and you will take the people that come through. You know, might be someone that you're not expecting but you'll get what you need. And spirit's always there, which is amazing because they will come through with evidence with things that you've done recently or talked about or maybe looked at pictures and the medium would tell that to you and say, oh well, that person was there while you were doing that which is incredible. Crystal, how did you first get interested in all this? How did this land in your life? Well, I've always had an interest in spiritualism. My room was haunted as a child so I guess that was a peaked interest. And when I came over to the UK, that don't go away, I've always been interested but I guess moving here just boosted it because I had unlimited internet, resources, I could Google and search and educate myself. And that's a big part of spiritualism as education and educating yourself that there is more to this life. But how did I come into it? Ghost adventurers. I started watching ghost adventurers and I started doing ghost hunting, you know? Just, and I don't like the word ghost hunting, but it's just going to these really old historic sites and working with the energy there, the spirits there, through means of little say answers where you'll do table tipping or you'll play with a yes, no board known as the Ouija board. But that is where I learned that you don't play around with the things that you don't know anything about. And I guess that opened me up to a different world. I love doing that. I went to loads of events to these ghost hunting events and I soon realized that I loved ones can come through on these events and people that are also stuck. And when I spoke to one of these mediums at the event because there's always a medium, I asked her, oh, are you a medium, right? Very enthusiastic. No, I'm a large, she said. And it's a joke. I'm a large, I'm not a medium. Okay, get it now. Yeah. And I just sort of started talking to her and she said, well, anyone can do it if you like. And she sort of said, go find yourself a psychic development circle or a church circle where you could sit in and that just sort of set me off. I went on a spiritualist church or a circle and I joined the psychic circle for two years which helped me immensely with my psychic abilities and connecting psychically. But that is also where my spiritual journey started with mediumship. And through that circle, I found the spiritualist church and that is how I joined the spiritualist church. I was there at almost every service and it didn't take me long to become part of the committee because I was so committed and that's how I started on my spiritual development. I still sit in circle. I don't think we ever stop learning where you open up, you learn how to sit in the power of spirit. I'm basically, if anyone who's watching wants to do that and that is the only thing you really need to become a medium, become a psychic, get to know yourself because how can you connect with someone else or give anyone else a message if you don't know your own mind and your own being? So sitting in the power of you in stillness, not with a guided meditation, just still ground yourself and open yourself up and let all your thoughts go. You need to be like almost in a hibernation status, you know? Just quiet, feel the energy. You can call in your guides if you like but just feel them, feel how you are your mind. I don't know how else to explain it. It's really such a simple exercise. You will start to feel your energy rise. Your energy will quicken as your energetic body starts to increase in vibration as you sit in the power and the connection of spirit. And people would say, oh, it feels like I'm having a panic attack or my heart's beating out of my chest. But that is, you know, when almost like you have an out of body experience, your etheric body just starts pulsing really quickly and that is you just feeling your true essence. And when you're in that state, you know, ah, this is the state I need to be in when doing psychic work or communication with spirit. That's so beautiful. Crystal, tell me some of your, some of the favorite things that you ever saw in a spiritualist reading or, you know, during that part where the medium gives messages to others out there. You know, I went with you to the one service and it was amazing. And what I noticed was how happy the older people were when the younger people showed up. I noticed that. And everyone was very nice and very kind, but I, you know, it made me wish that I had been able to spend more time there and go to more services. So I only went to the one, but it makes me wonder about some of your favorite services, what you might have seen or experienced during some of your more memorable ones. Well, when I'm in a church, especially when I'm chairing, it's nice to look out to the congregation because you can sort of see their auras. And as you're observing your audience, you can feel or sense the energy where the medium might be going next, which is really fascinating for me. The most, the evidence that comes through which is the best kind of evidence is a medium that can give you exact details. Like, oh, she did, instead of just saying nothing, she did crochet and she did it in these colors, or instead of people on the medium saying that, oh, I have the month of May, you know, to give more specific details to say, ah, I have the 21st of May for you, you know, and get the names. It's amazing at a medium the other night who was able to give names exactly. Wow, you need to have the clear audience ability to be able to hear that. So that is very fascinating. But even today, we were playing around with the Carillion photography, which I told you about earlier. And with that, it's a photography that basically picks up the aura and the energy fields around you, but not just that, it sort of monitors the energy and the light around you. And this medium, Gordon Smith, I was there today, this was a video image of him. While he was doing mediumship, he was saying, I have your father here. And as he was saying that, this spirit energy basically just popped out of his camera. You could just see the full spectrum red next to the medium as he was giving this message. I'm knowing to him what was happening. The spirit manifested right next to him as he was giving the message. On other occasions, you can feel the energy when you're on the platform, where the energy gets really hot and you get very emotional. I have had, I've started crying in a service where a message can be so emotional. So it is beautiful. Every experience is unique, Anders. It's difficult to say points to one, because what you get might be just so personal to you and I wouldn't understand why that is. And that is what a medium does when they come to you. They don't have a clue what they're talking about. I have to give you this red bat. I don't know what it is, but you should know. Oh, yes, yeah, I remember the red bat. So something like that. For me, personally, I never knew my grandmother on my mom's side, our pictures of her and she is always the person that comes through for a message. She's one of my guides. She's always with me. And she's the one when I need a kick up the bum, she comes through and she will come forward with the message that I need that week or not specifically every week, but when she feels that upliftment is needed or motivation, she comes through. And the mediums have, for example, said that we have such a strong bond and she helped me before I incarnated and was born because she passed along before I was born. And she's always with me. And I speak to her, because today the lady said, you speak to your grandmother in pictures. I said, yeah, I do. She says, I know, she's telling me that, which is lovely, yes. So I know so much about my grandmother now, more than, I don't wanna say, I don't know when she lived, but it's like you get to know the loved ones more when they cross over them, when you did, when they were on the airplane. Boy, howdy. I could say that about a couple of people that I've been in communication with. You know, though, some of the more interesting experiences I've had of mediumship-wise, as I'm sitting here listening to you talk is, for me, it's like in my dream state, I was thinking about you talking about that you don't even know like about the object. And I actually had a friend, and I'm gonna try to remember what it was, but I had this dream about her brother that had passed. And I know my friend very well, didn't know the brother very well, and had this dream about my friend's brother, who I just didn't know really at all, right? And who I'd met maybe, I don't know, 30, 35 years ago, a long time ago, maybe in passing. And I dreamed that he was showing me, I think it was something like a purple coffee table, a purple coffee table that something, something and something was on it. And he was so insistent, so insistent. The next day, I contacted my friend, and I went, look, I had a dream about your brother. And it was, it was really strange, but he was very insistent about this purple coffee table with, and I don't even remember what the object was, but she just burst in the crying because it was so incredibly specific and special, and she knew exactly what it was about, and it was this huge message for her. And she felt very disconnected from, because she'd lost him and another member of her family recently, and it was a beautiful thing. But for me, those things are, they kind of come out of the blue, and they're very rare, but it's so strange because I've had more than one of these people who I don't know come to me in my dreams to give me information for people that I do know, but it's not a weekly thing for me. This is kind of a, you know, this is, so I know I've got something, right? All of us do, all of us do, and you are definitely one of the sensitive ones, definitely. But then, you know, you have all these added things. You have precognition, you have retrocognition, you have the ability to just go in an altered state and do Akashic records readings. You know, this is all form of communication and using your abilities. And we use our abilities by seeing, but not seeing with our eyes, but through our third eye. And especially when some people are developing and you say, maybe Spirit's talking to you, you're not hearing it with your physical ears, you're hearing it with your atheric ears, and then you feel some people don't have any other senses and they just feel spirit. But it's important to note that whenever you have a reading with any medium, it should always be an uplifting one. Spirit will not come with doom and gloom. Yes, I will say you're stuck, but I will also tell you how to move forward. It should always be uplifting, because then you know that you as a medium has done healing and given the message that they needed. So Stella, let me ask you, your involvement with modern day spiritualism, how has that helped you in your BQH practitioner world in life and dealing with clients? How do those things combine or do they? I think they combine all the time, especially when doing healing or when loved ones come through in our sessions, then I know exactly how to deal with that and call the loved one forward. So quantum healing definitely in BQH comes to the forefront or all the time in my mediumship and in the spiritual field because it is so vast. When I was looking at this Galilean photography today, the first thing that went through my mind is, oh my gosh, I need to get this program so I can get it recording when the client is sitting in the couch. So when healing takes place, I want to see it happening. Like how cool that be, you know? Amazing, amazing, that was so cool. I want to be devil's advocate here for a second and say something that everybody out there knows me, knows I don't really mean. Could you ever turn that off? Yeah. In your session? You could turn off your connection to the spirit world. You could say I don't want it right now? Well, for our different Pamela, I'm sure it's different. But for all the mediums that I have worked with, yes. We are in control of us and if spirit is doing things that we don't like, we could say, or put a boundary down and say, please, you can talk to me when I am in the power or I set the intention to work. Otherwise, please do not disturb my day-to-day life. But I think it's natural. When they see an opportunity to connect, they will jump right in, they will, right? But imagine getting a spirit message which I do all the time, right? Doesn't mean I'm always switched on but when you do go in a hypestate, which sometimes we do, I can't go up to the random person and say, oh, hey, I've got a spirit being or a loved one here and they want to give you this message. I do at work and I all think I'm crazy but it's just the laugh at work. They're not taking, I'm not taking them seriously at all because they don't believe in that and which is fine. Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they believe but I find it funny that they watch Star Wars and do gently the realistic agency and they don't believe in anything that I do but they believe it in their own way, which is fine. But okay, devil's advocate, can we switch it off? Yes, yeah, yeah. Because I wouldn't want to my mind working all the time. I don't want to be in that altered state, high frequency energy all the time. Even though it's nice, it's nice to be up there and you feel energetic when you work up there. You come back feeling uplifted and energized and it's incredible. So yeah, I would love to live up there all the time but no, I wouldn't want to work all the time. So when I spent that one night, oh well, I spent actually two nights at the college but only one night in that giant building all by myself the second night. At least there was somebody else in the building. Something about that just made it, I don't know. Let's just say I was a little less jumpy. You know, it was really, really interesting because as you were talking about the, you know, turning it off and everything, I remember standing at my bedroom door and before going in, I kind of turned around and I did it silently, I didn't say it out loud but I basically said, okay, this is my do not disturb sign. I need to, I have things I've got to do tomorrow and I need to sleep. And I mean, it was just kind of, you know, the party was already starting right outside the door alongside all the crazy pictures and all of those things like the woman with the glasses and you know, the one you showed me and all just the crazy things in that and the amazing place of the College of Psychic Studies. They respected me. They didn't stop their party. The party continued, but it continued outside my door and it was kind of like being in a dorm room in a busy college dorm where I was, you know, the nerd trying to sleep and everybody out there was having a party. Well, you set the boundaries, right? Which is great. And if everyone can just do that because as I said earlier, the spiritual wants to communicate with you. They want to make their presence known. I'm okay, you know? So let's make a noise. Let's make a bang. Let's touch her or let's blow her in her hair, you know? You'll feel wind coming on your face or something. And that's them, but if you don't like it, please tell them, don't do this or I'd rather you do to communicate, you know, leave me feathers and you're in control. If they scare you in any way, you know, just say, well, please don't do that. That's scary. I don't know what's going on and I don't like it. But, you know, that is why if you overcome the fear of the other side of bad and, you know, the good and evil and that there is nothing to fear, then you'll be in such a better place and you'll know that there's nothing to be scared about. So while we were talking, there's some people talking about possibly there being some online mediumship circles. That's pretty interesting. I didn't know that it seemed like the physical presence might be powerful in a mediumship circle, but it looks like some people are trying to do it online. What do you know about that? Okay, so I'm in a circle within the church and without outside the church, actually. But when I go to places like the Art of Finlay College in Stansted, similar to the College of Psychic Studies, you have people coming from all over the world and there's a lot of places in the world that don't agree with mediumship, don't have spiritualist churches, so the only way they can practice is via online. So they get each other's numbers or Skype details and they set a set time each week to get together and practice the mediumship, which is incredible. I think that's amazing. And I do that as well with my trans mediumship because I don't have a lot of people to practice with, so I do the same with people that I have met in trans circles and we practice online, which is give each other the power, because as you're sitting there, I would power you up, give you my energy so you have enough to go into trans and do communication. So until you can do that yourself, it's good to have a bit of a boost. I love that idea. Friend Wendy Liu is talking about, she basically took the words out of my mouth, she said, I prefer physical presence, but I'll take what I can get. Yeah, living in rural Kansas, I feel the exact same way. Pity, Wendy, we can get together with Priscilla and do something online like that. It doesn't matter if it's online, it all works the same. There's a fascinating story about the college of psychic studies because we know that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was a president of the college for a few years and he was also part of a psychic society and he fully committed himself to becoming a spiritualist and spreading the news of spiritualism during the war times. And this was the time he started writing or he was writing Sherlock Holmes. So for those of you who don't know Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, he wrote Sherlock Holmes and one evening when he decided, I need to commit myself fully to my spiritual beliefs, he said, tonight I will be killing someone. And he meant, I'm killing Sherlock Holmes. So he killed off Sherlock Holmes to commit himself fully with the psychic research and his spiritual journey with the College of Psychic Studies. That's a brilliant story. That's just such a great story. I had no idea you had that one up your sleeve. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. I think you brought him back to life eventually, but yeah. What's new in that? What's coming up new? Anything new in modern day spiritualism? I mean, new things running, you know, coming up other than maybe the Corellian photography thing, which, you know, I had some of the same thoughts when I first started doing Dolores Cannon's method. And there was a person out there who had, it was one of those, oh, what do they call it? Kickstarting. It was a kickstarting fun project that this person had invented. It was like a headband that would measure people's brainwaves, but, you know, without having to be in a laboratory with all the wires and stuff, it was like this portable thing for people like us who are interested in, well, what brainwave state are you in right now? And I was like, oh, yeah, man. And I was so excited and I like sent my money and everything, but the idea never went anywhere. But I just wanted even, I mean, could you imagine seeing somebody's brainwave state and then seeing what's going on with them and really, because we kind of only guess right now. I mean, we have clues and stuff, but I think some of that, you know, I am interested in the science and all of this. I'm interested, not in the skeptical part of science, but in more in the other side of skepticism, which is see how this actually is what we think it is. And like you said before, sometimes spirit's there and sometimes it's not and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. And that's science for you anyway too, right? So what's new? What's coming up in the world of spiritualism? Well, science is a big part of it. And I guess the world of spiritualism as we know it is to try and get people more aware, to bring them in at the moment. We have people leaving the religions and we have all sorts of religions in our church where they are stepped away from what they believed in, if that sounds correct. But as you said, the science part is about repeating an experiment. And when you see a different medium at every service standing on the platform giving messages, it's about what different information do you get or do you get the same information? Do they correlate with what you know? Okay, where are we moving to? I feel like with the acceleration that's happening within all of us, we are becoming more aware, we know that, right? A lot of us know that. We are becoming more sensitive. So we are getting younger bodies in the church questioning what's going on, okay? Which is lovely because we have people here that are experienced enough to be able to help and educate them. And a lot of them do turn up and on our circles wanting to develop because why don't you wanna know who you truly are in essence. Once you have that question of who we are, how can you not investigate it? And as I said earlier, a lot of us have a fear of death, right? How many of us have that? And to know that you'll be okay is such a big step. I feel like we have gone backwards with regards to the quality of mediumship and we need to get that back. I feel like we don't have as many trans mediums or physical mediums anymore, but then we have to ask the question, do we really need that? It's a difficult, difficult question. I said, I have come to a point for myself where I have done the psychic work and it's like a journey, right? I've done the mediumship and I asked myself the same question. I kind of read every book. If I pick up a new book, it's like, it's nothing new for me. Like I need new challenges and new ideas to push boundaries. And that is when I stumbled into trans and it took me a while to think, okay, maybe I should go into trans mediumship. Which I really like to think that you can connect to a spirit person who'd be able to give you inspiration and maybe talk through you. Like who do we have? Cryon, Bashar, are my two favorites. That's amazing. But you don't typically get galactic being stalked through you. It would mainly be a normal person. I guess those are special people in the sense that they were lucky enough to be able to bring forth or were a vibrational match. You know Bashar or Darryl was a vibrational match for this amazing message to come through and it was meant to be. But we continue with our healing work. We continue awakening by spreading the message of spiritualism and educating. We're a teaching church. So if people come in, then we're there to teach and show them the way. But to compare that with quantum healing as well, how many times do you have a quantum healing session or beyond quantum healing session? Which you just brought out, which is such an amazing modality. And they already have the spiritual interest. They're so spiritually aware. So I can help them. I can help them as well and give them techniques and I can do that with beyond quantum healing and a system. All right, well we're getting down to probably the end of our time together. But I do want to ask you a couple more questions because I've watched you really blossom these last few months. And some of your connection with our mutual wonderful friend, Pamela Aralyn, when you're assisting her during her mediumship, what's that like for you as a budding medium? I know that when I was around Pamela, it was very informing to me in my own psychic development and my own mediumship skills. And you've hosted her multiple times now on some of her Patreon shows and classes. Talk to me a little bit about what that's been like and how that's been for you internally in your own mediumship. I can see how she works. And personally, by asking the questions, it's almost like I can have a personal communication with the communicator. And it's, I have a story there because the first session that I facilitated was Archangel Raphael. And I was sort of attuning myself because before a session, maybe mediumship, quantum healing or with Pamela's, I would have quiet time beforehand and I would set an intention. And this time I was on my way home on the train and I was looking up in the sky and I was just seeing the sun. And I looked at it as a halo, right? As an angel energy, the sun being so bright. But I didn't think anything of it. I was just looking at it and was penetrating my third eye. And when I got home, my Xbox switched on all by itself. And if you look at the sign of the Xbox, it's a green sign. And I don't have the Archangel energy of Raphael Ease Green, but it has a green cross across the Xbox sign. And then when the disc popped out, it was halo. So that was like, wow, wow, that's just incredible. But I absolutely love facilitating for Pamela. I don't know if she feels like, I think she thinks I'm a good facilitator. I enjoy it so thoroughly that I'd be able to do it all the time, you know? I enjoy watching her bring forth these amazing communications. And so naturally, almost with no effort. And she's an inspiration to me, you know? I can just, I want to be like that one day, you know? Just, I want to be on that platform and I want to give mediumship like every other medium and that I'm still practicing. And I do mediumship readings myself. And it's really an honor to do that, yeah. I'm getting a huge tone in my ear right now. I think maybe that's confirmation for you and maybe for me both. You know, that time that I spent with her right when Stephen Hawking had passed and I was there for her kind of impromptu channeling of him. That just kind of changed everything for me, watching. Just kind of being in Pamela Erlen's kitchen and, you know, hanging out with her, doing daily things. It was astonishing. It was eye-opening. It was such a gift. Those of us in the metaphysical community are so lucky to have her. And for those of you out there, anybody who might be watching this video who don't know about Pamela Erlen check her out. She's like my friend Michelle Walling said before I even knew who Pamela was. She's the real deal. And she's the real deal and all that and more and an amazing, inspirational human whom I adore just so much. And I just love watching you with her. There's something about you that just glows when you're assisting her. So, I hope that that continues. And it's amazing what she's now also doing mentorship programs because there's just so much more than just going for a reading, you know. You have all the answers within you and she teaches that as well and you do. You do have all the answers in you. Yep, you really do. All right, Crystal, I think we've come to the end of our time today. Why don't you tell people how to get ahold of you in case they may be interested in a medium shift reading or maybe a BQH session? Yes, either or both. You can find all the information you need on chrysillaloes.com. And my name, oh, my name's a complicated one. But it's, but I'm sure you'll find it. I'm sure Candice will tag me in the post. And it's my first and last name.com. Easy, easy. I guess I kept it easy. Absolutely. And if you can't find her there, of course, you can find her on quantumhealers.com. You can find her very easily. And for those of you who are interested, please know we're still offering the BQH course out there online and you can take it during your own free time. It's completely online and take it as you would like and it fits into your schedule. OK, Crystal, well, thanks for joining me on this Sunday. You know what? It stopped raining since we've been talking. Yeah, and maybe we can step outside a little bit, enjoy a little bit of this day. We've been inside and set up. Oh, there goes my tone again. Actually, you can. Getting a lot of upgrades here. It's been so nice spending this time with you. I love you so much. I love you too, Candice. And I love you, Pamela, if you're watching. All of our BQH community, too. But yes, I didn't mean to speak over you. No, no, it's fine. I guess we've touched a lot of, you know, small areas because it's such a vast subject. But thank you for having me. Sure, well, we'll do this again for sure. All right, thanks to Facebook people and other people who are catching this on the recording. And I want to say a very special thank you to my friend, Greg Prescott, at n5d.com, who sponsors this show, Quantum Healing with Candice. Love you, Greg. Thank you so much. All right, bye-bye, everyone. Till next time. Bye. Bye.