 I want to show an example of a bunch of what it looks like when people how are normally communicating with each other without utilizing as seen as an approach to get there. I'd be a lot freer if people like you were put in prison as retaliation for the collective crime of racism, anti-Semitism, misogyny and homophobia. God blesses me. You're judgmental. How do you deal with shame in your life? I perpetrate this every day by telling people what their rights are and what they aren't. How do people like you start to ruin this world? You're judgmental. Christians are responsible for slavery. Do you know why you're getting upset about it? I'm getting upset because you are stepping on the right. There are thousands of Americans. No, this is a freedom to me. You're judgmental. You are lost in a fantasy. Yes. Preach the word. Preach what? I'm... Sir, you can't spit on me, sir. Well, I know this. I could look at that sun. I could look at the sky. I could see the trees. And I know there is life. So if there is life, there has to be a creator of life. No. Who doesn't? It's a hassle. All you have to do is provide evidence. Can you provide evidence? I'm a volunteer. Okay. I'm a volunteer. I'm a volunteer. I'm a volunteer. I'm a volunteer. I'm a volunteer. Who course got it? Listen, listen. That's the key point. Listen, well, I know what he's saying. I can set you up every time. But of course you know what I'm saying. But your arrogance is a Christian. You know that he ordered you. You don't have to believe it if you don't know it. If you don't know it, then think about it. Do you think God gave you a break? Again, how do you deal with it? You breaking the law of God. How do you deal with that? How do you deal with this delusion of yours? There's some invisible man in the sky sitting on a cloud. Well, it's not just that. So you don't believe that Jesus walked the earth? No! The Christians are responsible for slavery! Absolutely. Yes, that's exactly what I mean. You mock your religion into extinction. That's exactly what you think. It's already happening. It's already happening. It's not a fairy tale. It's a fairy tale. I'm a born-again Christian. Oh, born-again. Baptized in Jesus name. Who do you? Fill with the Holy Ghost. Jesus too. It's God who works in me. It's a false law in me. It's not true. It is not true. It is not true. Then your parents teach you magic. Is he right next to you or are you holding his hand? Yes, I am. Oh, you need some medication, my friend. Hitler. Who designed God? You're caught in a trap now. It's a logical trap where you would listen. I'm the ignorant one. I use reason and logic. The Bible is no more proof that God exists. Then a comic book is no more proof that Superman exists. You are sick. You need Jesus. You're a sick person. Thank you very much. You're welcome. You judge mental. It's not going to be a two-way conversation. There's no point. Bye! Bye! What is interesting here, actually, is that we've got people from different fights and who all believe in some kind of heaven in a different sense. But every single one of them believes in this heaven on the basis of faith. Faith, by definition, is believing in things without evidence. Personally, I don't do that because I'm not an idiot. Whoa! Ouch! I'm so glad you guys laughed at that. It was a lot of moments where I noticed, like, oh man, that was just me. I don't know. Three years ago, you're caught in a trap. You didn't realize that, did you? I got you. I used reason and logic, and now your trap never works. So, right? How's the audio in the back? Can you guys hear pretty well? Yeah? For real? Okay, great. Okay, cool. So, those were examples of what conversations look like when you normally don't use SE. Hold up. All right. Those are conversations where, when you don't use SE, they tend to, like, evolve into, like, really accusational terms. People not really being open-minded about changing their mind. I want to show you an example of what actually looks like what SE is employed. Yeah, so, yeah, I just have this hobby where I chat with people about anything. Is there a particular belief you want to chat about? Is there what? A particular belief that you want to chat about. Something you really think is true. Christianity. Yeah. All right, anyway, yeah. Ty's my name. I've got a five-minute timer. Okay. I don't know if any two people can talk about anything. Is there anything that strongly motivates you? What do you think is true? God? Yeah. That's a heavy topic. You want to talk about that for five minutes? Sure. Yeah? Yeah, I can talk about. I mean, I was, my background is Christianity. I was raised Southern Baptist. I believe in gods. That would be the thing I'm the most certain about. Okay. First, got to get a sense of your confidence that a god exists. Okay. Say on a scale from one to ten. Ah, ten. Ten for sure. Ten. Yeah. 100% certain that higher power exists. Okay. Um, 95. 95. Mm-hmm. All right. Very confident. From like zero to 100%. 100%. 100%. You don't need any more evidence. You're absolutely closed on the position. You think that's absolutely true? Yep. Okay. 100%. What got you to that 100%? Oh, really? Well, uh... So, I go to a Christian school and I've learned. I've taken a bunch of classes on, um, theories and all these different things. And it just makes sense to me. It kind of like hits home. I, and for me, it's just a meditation thing. Okay. That I realize that it's just, it's just a full-on total goodness of the earth. Mm-hmm. All the plants. Um, I believe that there is something that has been working on my behalf in this universe. Whatever is here had to come from somewhere. Okay. Uh, right here. From somewhere without some sort of first cause. Okay. Yeah. I know it's hard to think that, yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, how does something making sense to you relate to the actual truth of it? Like, could someone actually be mistaken about a belief that makes sense to them? Yeah, I think they could. Okay. That is a, uh, very good point. I would say... So you, oh, that's a, that's an interesting perspective. So you believe that, wow, I've never ever heard that before. Well, that's an interesting, you know, we've come around to an interesting point that Oh. I never verbalized to myself before, but I do see that, you know, I'm starting to see just from this discussion. And the benefits I get from it? Right, right, right. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's a good perspective. I would like to, I would like to believe it if it's true. Right. But, but, because nobody can question it, nobody can prove it. You can't prove faith. You can't prove any of these things. It's like, why am I believing this? Hmm. You may be onto something, man. Yeah, so... That's powerful stuff, man. Thanks. Yeah, it's just stuff to think about, man. Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you for that. That's really enlightening. I never thought about it like that. That's true. Right. That's a good way to look at it. I like to think about it that way. And that, anything that puts you in a more reasonable position. I try and I try. Hmm. Well, thanks. Yeah? All right. Have a good evening. It was good chatting with you. Good chatting with you as well. All right. Have a good evening. Have a good one. Isn't there a huge difference there? You guys see it? No one left angry. No one left angry. And people were open-minded. People were willing to change their perspective a little bit. Let's talk about how that works.