 We've actually successfully raised a whole generation of kids now in virtual complete disconnect with nature. And when you reconnect that, you'll suddenly realise that you have the whole curriculum on one square metre of vegetable garden. It's not necessarily the information that you remember from your educational experiences, it's the actual experience. So the pace thing for me is that we want to be fast, but in some ways we can be faster if we can be slower. As a strategist, I'm really delighted and excited when I see discussion about a certain topic which is education for our planet across all of these scales. We've gone from bugs to insects to products to 3D printing to indigenous and ancient wisdom. As indigenous people we have a story, we have a connection, we have practices and behaviours that reaffirm this connection. But that is not something that is just strictly for indigenous people only. I feel that that's something that we all as human beings have a role and responsibility for. Until we reconcile our relationship with Papatūānuku, it's going to be very difficult for us to reconcile our relationship with each other. And so how do we do that?