 Welcome back to the breakfast on PLOS TV Africa. Our next conversation this morning is on the ongoing Jusson strike across Nigeria. And this morning we're going to be speaking with Mr. Jimon Moussa who is a national treasurer of Jusson. Updates of course on that story say that the Governors have refused to endorse the memorandum of understanding that may have led to the call-in-off of the strike. Good morning Jimon Moussa. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. All right, let's get into this. This strike has gone on for way longer than people had expected. There is talks about a memorandum of understanding that Governors should have signed off on. Of course that would have led to the call-in-off of the strike. What seems to be the challenge here? Well, after two weeks back we signed a memorandum, hoping that the Governors would have to concentrate on the memorandum. Surprisingly in the match, but after one small day they came up with a memorandum, differently from the ones we signed. The change of club is a memorandum. We felt they were not being fair to us. So we did not sign a memorandum. But as of Friday we met with the Minister of Labour, the President Energy, Commander Ayubaba and the Internals. We, after a long debate and argument, the union signed our own column of the memorandum. So we have an agreement now that is binding on out. The only thing that they call the memorandum that is for signs of good faith, the Governors should pay every or many amount, that will be a conditional way of sustaining this strike. So as of today, we are waiting for them, and today we are going to do the needful of containing the memorandum. So as we can call our Congress or NEC to address them, possibly, or most likely, we will suspend this strike. Alright, let me understand. What memorandum of understanding did the Jusson sign off on? Was it the one that the Governors brought forward, or the initial one that was put together by Jusson? There was no time to put the memorandum at home. What memorandum that we have signed were products of the Governors. The first one came from them. We signed it because of the incident of Nigerians that are suffering because of this strike. Aside from the salaries that you've mentioned, that if they are paid would lead to the end of the strike, does the MOU also dictate some of the things that were complained about that led to the strike in the first place? The MOU, we're not talking of salary, we're talking of money new to the judiciary at the safe level to be paid directly to the state judiciary. That is what is contained in the MOU. We have a budgeted amount in every state judiciary. A budget that depends and approves the one that stands for judiciary will be deducted from the accounts and get out of each state and pay to the head of court in that state for sign. That is what we agree to do, and it will take effect from every salary. Okay, so Ms. Amosa, this MOU we're talking about, it was actually presented by the Nigerian Governors Forum. Is that right? So if the Nigerian Governors Forum presented or formed this document that addressed your grievances, why then is it a challenge for the Governors to ascend to it? That is what's going on. They presented this document to their DD, the Governors Forum, and after a long debate, we were convinced that we should sign. We endowed even without their bid present. But they were representative of the Government, the Chair of the Government Forum. He said he doesn't have a look to sign. So the Minister and the Senator, specifically to the Committee, surprisingly for them to hand over the papers back to him, it took them two weeks before they came out with another different document. And with some change in the document, that was why we refused that we're not going to sign. So we had to stop it. And after 14, we met with the Minister on Friday. He tried to convince us and educate us. And we saw this with Nigeria that we should start with software. So we endowed bad documents. Now it's for the document to take effect from today morning. Just to see whether they would do the next tool as part of what's contained in the document. Okay, Mr. Musa, we know that one of the Governors that have said he would not sign off on that document, he says the MOU signed between Justin and the Nigeria Governors Forum is not binding on the States' Governors, Yes and we can. Which other Governor has blatantly refused not to sign that MOU? The Governors Forum are presented by the Chairman and the Vice Chairman. And next week, it's not a Chairman of Vice Chairman of the Governors Forum. So if the Chairman and the Vice Chairman have signed a document, I think it's binding on Mr. Wickey. It's binding on him. For him to sign, it's not binding on him. Mr. Wickey is doing the right thing. You don't expect that the Chief Governors of this country to come together and sign a civil document. So they have their representatives. And the representatives of the Chairman that the Governors of ACT have signed. And the Governors of the Social Security have signed. They are the chief headquarters. So Mr. Wickey's issue is not to be taken seriously. Let's see how this goes. You've mentioned today to Wednesday. Hopefully they play their own part with regards to the MOU and make those payments. We hope to speak with you again but on a more positive note next time. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. So we'll take a break here to discuss another big issue in the country. It's the Office of the National Security Advisor who has actually basically said lots of security agencies in the country would basically be cancelled. These people are harassing Nigerians and they need to be scrapped. We'll discuss that in detail after the break.