 That's right. Happy Thursday morning. This is run it back your hour long basketball discussion. My friends on the panel, as always, stadium insider Shamsherania, Chandler P and Lou Will. And guys, we had a it was a weird night. Something I don't think I've heard or seen before Shamsherania reported that Isaiah Stewart of the Pistons had a little altercation pre game with Drew Eubanks. What happened? Isaiah Stewart was arrested last night and he was cited for assault of Drew Eubanks. He was released after the arrest and the charge and the NBA has also launched an official review of the situation. I'm told they've received security footage of essentially this. Both Isaiah Stewart and Drew Eubanks were walking into the arena by the security area pre game last night in Phoenix. I heard the Pistons sons game and that's when some words were exchanged. Both players came chest to chest and Isaiah Stewart from what I'm told punched Drew Eubanks in the mouth lip area. Police security then separated both of them and police had to escort Stewart out of the arena after that from what I'm told local law enforcement, the league involved with both teams and investigating and looking into the situation. But Isaiah Stewart, he had an incident with LeBron James a couple of years ago and he's been known as a hard edge player, a guy that obviously competes really hard on the floor and he got into it with Drew Eubanks last night from what I'm told Drew Eubanks did not retaliate on any punch. But Isaiah Stewart did connect with him in the mouth area and now we're going to see as the league investigates and local law enforcement did arrest him, did charge him and we'll see what comes of that after the citation. But the league is now going to investigate this and Isaiah Stewart was suspended a couple of years ago. We'll see how that plays into his history with this matter. But definitely this is by far the most unique situation. First for me, I'm sure, you know, Lou and Chandler obviously played. I don't know if they've seen anything like this ever. I mean, arrested in your uniform, like, what is that? Chandler, have you seen this? Have you heard of this? I have. I've never heard of someone, you know, getting arrested in their uniform before the game. Obviously these guys have had a thing. They've got into it when they've played before. And the good news for me is there's got to be a video, right? So I think that will kind of give some clarity because I heard it was a sucker punch, which that that that's bad. You can't just go up on a dude and punch him out of nowhere. If they're chest to chest, they're two grown men that are talking trash and they end up getting in a fight. Fine. That happens. I've seen teammates fight before. I saw I saw Garrett Temple and Omri Caspi literally getting a fist fight and the like that that's that's somewhat normal. But for this before a game to overspill from the last time these two guys played, was there any talks before? Do they see each other in the summer? Like, is this like an ongoing beef that like, all right, when I see this dude, clearly it's on. But I've never seen it. There's obviously there's no room for Isaiah Stewart. He's got he said the issues before. I look for a big suspension from him. But no, to the fact that he's getting arrested. That kind of means it's pretty serious. But I got to see the video before I really kind of give my input on the whole situation. Lou, what'd you think? Yeah, listen, I'll keep it real. I don't need the video. At this point, we got to start looking in the reputation. You know, this is the same person that tried to chase LeBron around the court to get to LeBron. He was in a timeout this season, putting his hands up asking somebody on the other team that they want to go to the back and that they want to fight. And now you have this incident. Isaiah Stewart like to throw hands, man. That's the nature of that's the nature of this conflict. He like to throw hands. It's unacceptable. Um, there's no place in it for our game, especially in the back. You know, we're coming into these arenas. You're supposed to be protected and safe. You know, obviously, when you're dealing with when you're dealing with grown men, grown men, issues are going to arise from time to time. We understand that. But at this point, I think this is Isaiah Stewart thing, you know, as much as we drug Draymine Green in the ground for reputation and things that he was doing on on the court. This is a guy who's physically tried to harm people over and over. And I, and I hate to, you know, throw dirt on Isaiah Stewart, but everything I'm saying is warranted and it's deserved. It's no place for it in our game. And it's unacceptable. I, uh, that is a first. And I guess we can hold out and see if a video emerges and what happens after that. But being arrested, um, that was a big one. I did not seen that before. Uh, let's get to some actual basketball, shall we? The Clippers and the Warriors had themselves a game. No Kawhi in this one. Clippers down 12, rally back defeating Golden State. Paul George finished with 24 before fouling out. Norman Powell had 21. 12 of those came in the fourth and Steph Curry with his 41 points, but he did call the Warriors average after this loss last night. Um, it's out of character for Steph to say anything publicly loose. So I don't feel like we can get on him for this. He's justified in doing this, right? They're literally average. They're 26 and 26. You know, they, they hadn't shook the tree, you know, left or right one way or another. They are an average basketball team until they prove different. This is a very fair assessment coming from one of their team leaders. They're very best player in the history of the organization. So when he says this, I think guys have to listen and take it into an account and change the results of what the statement that was made, but you'd have to agree with them. They're literally a 26 and 26 team, um, coming off of a loss last night. They've been competing better recently, give them credit for that, but that's only gotten them to an average place. They just got to play better basketball. So this is fair. Yeah, they had gotten to a better place. I know you had your sick day, um, on Monday, you know, the one you had planned for two weeks. Do you think, did you see enough in that little tear that golden state? I mean, granted, last night's loss, notwithstanding, but is there something there? Is there enough in the tank that you could give them the benefit of the doubt that they have something for a push as we get closer to the end of this season? Or is this just the average team that they're going to be? No, I think Steph's head on the head. They're, you know, they're low average. They're the 10th seed in the Western Conference. That is, to be honest with you, wide open. And you know, there's some good teams at the top there, but they've shown progress, you know, going seven and two in the last nine games. That's big. And Steph has been unbelievable. And look, there's no reason for these guys to tank. Like they are who they are. They're, they're, when you look at the reality is they're four games out of the seventh seed, so they can make a little push here. They can, you know, keep guys healthy, continue to groom these young guys like Pazimski and Kaminga while having clay and Wiggins and Draymond healthy in the lineup. They're going to win games. They have this, the culture, the structure, they have the talent. Steph Curry is still playing at an elite level where they can go on little seven and two runs and they can, you know, run off eight in a row and be right back in the mix of the Western Conference. But is it likely it's not, they don't defend, they don't show it every single night. They're not consistent. And those other guys, the Wiggins, the clays, the Draymond, they haven't shown that they can continue to be productive night in, night out. So to me, it's, it's, they're kind of stuck right now in the middle because they don't have enough to contend. And there's no reason to shut guys down yet because they still have this hope that, you know, Steph Curry can go on these runs and average 40, average 50 points and carry these guys to a playoff series. But listen, just take it day by day, try and win games. And once you get in that play and once you get in the playoff, it's a whole other, a whole other season that these guys are used to. So is, is, is the door closed on them? No. But are they a contender? No chance. No chance. Well, here's a fun fact. Steph right now is hitting seven or more threes in four straight games. He's the first player to ever do that. It's kind of crazy to say that given the backdrop of what the team itself looks like. But is there a more fun player to watch Lou than Steph Curry when he's on one of these? Absolutely not. He's just, he's unpredictable when he's shooting like this. Incredibly hard to guard running off of screens, shooting on a dime, shooting in, in, in, in the, in the front court, in the back court, half court, whatever court you want. Steph Curry is scoring his basketball at a high clip. And he's been able to do that over a, you know, a span of over a decade now. You know, he's changed the game. He's changed the way that kids are playing the game, their outlook on it, you know, and even, even in the pros, you know, teams are starting to go to a style of basketball that's reminiscent of how Steph and the Golden State Warriors have played, but nobody plays better basketball when Steph Curry is rolling and nobody is more entertaining when he's shooting those threes like that. So fun. We're getting those pregame shots again. I love everything about that. Clippers were down double digits in the fourth in this one. As I mentioned, there was no Kauai Leonard and Paul George did foul out with three minutes. So considering all of that, Chandler, how impressive is this win on the road for LA? Yeah, it's super impressive. This is that luxury of the depth that they have, which we've beat over the head. This is a team that can go 10 deep. This is a team where you have a guy, you know, you have a big three or a big four with Russ. And then you have Norman Powell now step up and have 12 points in the fourth quarter. You have guys like a mere coffee right here. That's a huge three or a young kid is developing on this experience team. Zoo box being being back healthy and kind of dominating the paint for this team is going to be critical. So they have so many different ways that can hurt you. PG and James carried them all game long. But yeah, when he when Paul fouled out, Norman Powell takes over Terence Mann had some big buckets. You know, Plumbly was effective and the limited minutes he got. So this team has extreme depth, extreme experience, and they're going to be they're going to be really tough to beat because they have that flexibility to go small to go big to shorten the rotation to go to, you know, to go deep. So this is a mature team that kind of has it all in there. And they're starting to click. Shoms, we keep talking about Kauai not being in this game, a left adductor strain. What's the latest? How long is he expected to be out? Clippers hope that it doesn't cost him too much time. He's expected to travel the Indie for the All Star Game for All Star weekend. It's it's uncertain, though, whether he will play. Obviously last night, he did not play there without Bones Holland as well as PJ Tucker, both away from the team sent home. But you look at Kauai Leonard to me, he should be in the MVP conversation. I don't know if he should win it, but certainly he should be in the conversation. The Clippers one of the best teams in the league, arguably the best team in the league since the New Year. He's played in 48 of the 53 games. Obviously he's played at an elite level. Is an All Star reserve this season. So you're starting you've seen him back on that level of being all NBA player, a guy that can lead you to the promised land potentially. But health, of course, is the biggest thing. An adductor strain is nothing that you want to play with. I'm curious if you guys would want him to play in the All Star Game, like as a teammate, or would you just want him to rest up, use this break. The Suns are having Brad Beal use the break to get a procedure on his nose as well as the rest his hamstring. So what would you do if you're going to play the Clippers with Kawhi? I'm going to I'm going to tell you from experience and working with him. Kawhi Leonard doesn't care about the All Star Game. If he's not healthy, he's not going to play. Simple as that. All right. And there's no reason for him given his injury history to and where the state of the Clippers right now, they can make a real push and we're talking about a real contender here and that's with Kawhi Leonard. So an All Star game Indiana, maybe go maybe play five minutes, but I'd rather him just sit out reward us a bonus reward of Fox and start focusing in for this latter part of the season in the postseason. Yeah, right. Like what does Kawhi Leonard care about going to Indianapolis and playing five minutes in an All Star game? He's the Kawhi Leonard. Let somebody else have that. Take the time. That's what I would do. The other team in Los Angeles, the Lakers don't look now. They defeat the Jazz, no LeBron James in this one. They have now won six of their last seven four games over 500. That's the first time that's happened since mid December. Anthony Davis with 37 and 15. It's his third 30 15 game of the season. D'Angelo Russell, career high 17 assists AD without LeBron. Chandler, what kind of statements he making? This is a this is big. This is a huge game and you we had mentioned really Hatchimora who has 36 points and 13 of 19 from the field. So this is a game that they should have won, but it was very impressive because they got a little bit of everything. They had AD dominating with 37 and 15. They had huge game from Rui. They had Austin Reeves chip in 22. The D'Angelo Russell, who's now looking like he's having a lot of fun out there and everybody involved picking his spots on when to score, when to dish. So again, this is a team where they're in a similar boat as Golden State. They kind of struggle that they have an older team. There's no reason to not go all in on this last push and they're starting to take advantage of it. They're starting to get healthy. And again, am I impressed by this win against Utah? No, but this is a mature win without LeBron James, who's been there everything this year. Guys, they know they can go and win games without him. And he's going to he's old. He's going to miss some games. He's going to be banged up. You can't rely on him to be your everything every single night. So it is promising to see that guys like Rui can take over a game that Anthony Davis still capable of putting up these 37 and 15 monster games. And Austin Reeves can still do the things he's doing. And Spencer did what he looked a little bit more comfortable last night. So this was an impressive win for me and it shows that guys can compete even with LeBron James out and they can go and win games. But let's talk about Rui, Lou, because in his last three games, he's averaging 24 points and 69% shooting. As far as his role on this team, how does he affect the overall outlook of this Lakers squad? You just got to be more consistent. You know, he's had a great three games and had a career high, but you know, we're 50 plus games in, you know, you got to bottle that up and be more consistent and be that scoring punch that they need and that in that stretch three or four that they're going to need coming down in the stretch of games. And he's been playing well, but this is something that we got to see consistently from him. That's the reason that they brought him over in the trade. And so is he starting to find his footing? I hope so. I hope this is something that we can see at a high level all the time from Rui, and he gives them that power punch that they're going to need when, you know, Spencer did and when he gets with them and they start they start gelling and you get Gabe Vincent back. Then you start to see a different Lakers team where the debt matters and, you know, the role players are doing their jobs and giving them an opportunity to win basketball games. Shoms, talk to me. What's the latest on injuries for this Lakers team? What does it look like? Obviously, the most significant injury so far this year has been Gabe Vincent. He's about seven weeks post knee surgery. I'm told he is progressing doing some light stuff on the court. Ten weeks, they listed him out eight to ten weeks, and ten weeks would be that first week of March, about March 6th, barring a setback. That is still something Gabe Vincent is hoping for, shooting for. Of course, last time he had a little stop and go where he was rehabbing that knee issue, came back on the court after just a few games, had to undergo surgery, and so they're trying to avoid any other long-term damage in that knee, and so he's going to be, you know, progressed over the next few weeks and see if he can make a return in early March. Jared Vanderbilt, the Lakers hope in about a month he's going to be ready to make his return from mid-foot sprain. There was fears that he would have to have season-ending surgery. At this point, he is not, and he's rehabbing that foot, so getting those two guys in the lineup, of course, is massive for the Lakers. They need that. Thankfully for them, they got Spencer Dinwiddie as a free agent, so, you know, if Gabe Vincent does miss even more time, you have that, but they want both to go, both of those guys in their lineup for the stretch run. All right, fair enough. We got to take a look around the league. Here we go. First up, the Nets got destroyed by Boston last night. This total, 136, 86. That is 50 points, ladies and gentlemen. The next second worst loss of all time. They trailed at one point as many as 56 points, by the way. Guys, have you ever, ever been on the receiving end of a 50-point loss? Uh, I don't think, I was reading this, I was reading this earlier, and I was waiting to say no, and then I was thought you were going to throw, like, a 50-point loss in my face. I'm not sure. Nope. I don't want to say, I've got, you know what's crazy? Cory Brewer, one time gave us 50, and that was, like, the world was ending. Watching the film of Cory Brewer giving us 51 points was crazy, but now this, this is, this is, when things are going this bad, it's, it's, you're not making shots, you're getting frustrated, you're getting pissed at guys, missing you. This is a collective, just miserable night that, I'm not even sure they watch film on this. It's that bad. You just want to flush this thing and move on, because this is, this, this was brutal. Thanks. Yeah, that's, that's usually, that's been my experience. I've lost about 50 points twice, and, and for those reasons, I remember those games very vividly once. I was with the 76ers. We lost to the, we lost to the Houston Rockets about 50 points in a game that I didn't play in, so it didn't sting as bad, but it still was a big loss. And then, you know, another time we lost to the Dallas Mavericks by 50 when I was with the Clippers. One night we just, we just peed the bid and didn't show up. It didn't work out. So usually the games like that, it's not really a lot that you can learn from. It's not a lot that the film is going to show you. You throw it away, chalk it up to a bad night, and you get ready for the next game. I mean, I get all that, like just forget about it, but they started 13 and 10, and since then have gone 8 and 23. What has happened to this net squad, like, internally, externally? What is this? I mean, they have solid players, they, Mikhail Burgess is a bona fide player, but besides that, it's just kind of like a collection of these role players that don't really mesh well. I don't really know what their future plan is. They're kind of stuck with the whole Ben Simmons situation. They went through all the drama last year. So I don't know, they're kind of this team that's kind of stuck in the middle because they have a lot of talent. They have a lot of assets that other teams, I'm sure, would love to have. Guys like Dorian Finney-Smith, guys like Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas, they have talent. They have guys that shoot the ball, score the ball. I just don't like the structure of their team. I don't see, like, the big picture of really, of what they're doing. And Mikhail Burgess clearly, it's been noted that he's the only untouchable guy and that's fair. Besides that, I think everyone's on the table this summer. They're in no shape to compete, even in the play-in or play-off. So I don't really see their vision, but the good thing is they do have a lot of pieces where I think they can move around and kind of figure something out this summer. Fifty points. All right. Let's talk about Pascal Siakam for a minute. We haven't really addressed him since the trade. We're going to check in. He had 23 and seven rebounds in his first game against the Raptors since that trade. He's averaging 21 and seven rebounds in the 15 games that he's been wearing, this new uniform, and the Pacers have gone seven and eight, but five of them have been without Halliburton. That being said, 15 games in. How does this look, Lou? Looks like he's playing well. He's fitting in well, getting his footing, you know, playing, playing very well with this team. I'm interested to see what they do coming out of the break. You know, the East is starting to shape up to be Boston's Boston alone, but, you know, with all of the early success that they had with the end season tournament run and Tyrese Halliburton having his coming out party and them being the successful team that they were in that first half for the season and then bringing Pascal over. I'm curious to see what they do in the games to come. But the first 15 games, it has been a sample size of things to come. He looks well and I'm just curious to see what happens next. And look, you said it, no Tyrese Halliburton for five of those games. He's there everything, and I think Siachen will be a good fit implemented into this offense. And when you look at these reconference, you see Boston's dominating and the one team that's really made that push has been Cleveland. But outside of that, it's wide open for the Pacers to kind of make a run here, find their rhythm, get everything together and they can, they can sneak into that three or four seat with everything that's happening in Milwaukee with Joellen B going down Philly. It's right there for them to make a push to your post all start break. So I look for this team to continue to stack wins, you know, in the last part of the season. All right, we're taking a quick break right now. When we come back, we will be joined by Rockets Guard Aaron Holiday, run it back returns. Oh, I see they got that in there. Aaron Holiday has had himself a week joining us now on running back, Aaron, when I'm not watching the Spurs, I'm watching the Knicks. So I'm watching on Monday night. You know, we have to get right into this. All right. That call at the end of the game where Jalen Brunson gets called for the foul and we were heading to overtime. I'm thinking, oh, this is exciting. Things are happening. Then you hear the whistle, then there's controversy. Where you felt? I mean, it depends on what the refs call, but he did bump me. He bumped me in my chest and I turned my body, but you just don't know how the rules are in that situation, but it happens. Were you shocked? I mean, because first of all, it took forever to figure out what was going on, but were you shocked at thinking, oh, we're heading to overtime, or did you realize, oh, I have a chance to just seal this thing up and keep it moving? So I was focused on making the shot. I didn't really hear the whistle. And then obviously he had his hand up and I knew I had three free throws coming. So I knew I was going to make two of them and probably miss the third. So I was shocked, but I'm just happy we got the W. Did you ever think to decline the free throws and say, no, sir, I'd like to go to overtime and settle this like men? Okay, I'm just checking. No, they crossed my mind. Fair enough. Aaron, in that same game, you had a monster dunk. You had a monster, monster dunk that went viral. Which is great. It was only your sixth dunk, believe it or not. Was this, was this, were you thinking, you know, all the way through this play? What was going through your mind right here? This blue, yes, I was thinking about dunking it the whole time because I had one previous in Atlanta. Our game might be for this, I believe. So I guess. Oh, yeah, I was thinking about that. That's got to be your best dunk ever. I wouldn't say that. I've had a few in high school that were pretty good. Fair enough. Yeah, but you, on to Nick. Was your phone blowing up more after this game? Because of the dunk or because of the how it ended with the with the Jalen foul? A little bit above. It was a good mixture. Obviously the dunk every my family was very excited about it and social media was as well. I can't even remember at all, Lisa. But I just. I looked at social media, obviously it went viral and I just had a good game too. So I feel like all that put together really, really just helped everything go viral. No doubt. So Aaron, this season 24 and 30 for you guys, you guys have already surpassed last year's win total. So what do you think has been the biggest key to your guys success already as a young team that's growing? Have some veteran players, including guys like you. I feel like the organization did a great job of just putting a lot of group, a lot of vets together with this young team. We brought in probably four or five good vets that could help us win and understand the game and help the young guys as well. So credit to them there and also bringing an email. He's a great coach. You saw it in Boston and he really gets his players to play well. He holds them accountable and on defense is, he's probably one of the best defensive coaches I've been around. So all that mixed in with the young talent, the veteran talent and a good coach, I feel like we were able to put something good together. That's what I was going to ask you. You know, he may be a young coach. You guys trying to turn that page and being a young team. You said defensively, he's one of the better coaches that you've been around. But what has this impact been other than that in you guys locker room? Man, he's just a great leader. He installs confidence in us. I remember in training camp, he came to all of us and pretty much said, no matter what points you are at your career, you can always get better. And that really stuck with me because I'm a guy who works and throughout my career it's been up and down, but my work is stay consistent and just hearing that just, it just gives you confidence. And he also breeds confidence in us by obviously allowing us to play our games when we're out there on the court. But just holding us accountable, that goes a long way and growing as a team and as an individual player. You guys added Dylan Brooks in the off season. It's just a joy to watch him instigate people. So what's it like to play with him versus playing against him? I've never had problems playing against him. I played him at Oregon as well. So he's always been a good dude to me. But you really see how good of a guy he is off the court when you're around him in the locker room. He's funny. He has a little Canadian accent. So it amplifies everything. Everything's funny that he says. But he's just a good dude and a great leader for our team. He brings that edge that we need. And especially for me and the young guys, like we need to see somebody out there going hard so we can follow up with that and go hard as well. Has there been a moment or something specific that you've seen him do where you just realized like, oh, I'm glad he's my teammate. I mean, just the way he plays every game he's out there playing hard for his teammates. He's obviously defensive effort. He picks up whoever the best player is full court and doesn't care. If he gets cross scored on, he's going to give you that effort. And that goes a long way for me because I'm a guy who likes to play defense and go hard as well. So credit to him. He got us, our defense started off and it's going to a good start. Aaron, there's also your current teammate, Bobon. And when he's on the Mavericks, he kind of wanted to fight you at the end of this game here. What? Have you guys talked about this? Yeah, we spoke about it before. We all laughed it off, honestly. But yeah, I remember that against Dallas and the playoffs, I think they just beat us for the series. But I mean, there's no bad blood there. We're all, we're pretty good teammates. He's a great guy. And I'm a great guy as well. So we talked about it. Aaron, what did you do, bro? What did you do to Bobon? I know Bobon. I know Bobon. He's the least confrontational person I've ever shared the locker room with. What did you do, man? What did you say? Didn't play anything. I don't know. I was just trying to play basketball to the end of the buzzard and they threw it to him and I stole it and shot it through. He made it. And I think that's what ticked him off because I stole it from him and shot it. But I don't know. There you go. Never seen Bobon get mad. Yeah, I never got to play with him. But all the shit you see, the commercials, he's got to be the funniest cat on the team, right? Man, he's hilarious. He's a great dude. It's crazy going to city to city and everybody's yelling Bobon during the games. Like they want to see him out there. Even off the court, you see him talking to everybody. He treats everybody like family and he's just a great person to be around. But the dancing, we can tell him to stop dancing. Right? I mean, it's the TikTok stuff is weird. He's like just a giant. I mean, there's nothing to say, man. He's so good. He's an excellent player. He's the only player I know in the league that gets a chant no matter what building he's in. And that's that says something. It's so good. Bobon's a rock star. He's a rock star. He really is. You've got two other brothers playing the league, which, first of all, is amazing. So to play against your brothers, is there trash talk? What is it like pregame, postgame? How do you guys handle that? There's no trash talking. We just hang out honestly. I'll try to get to their house when I'm in their city or they'll come to mind when they're in mind. And it's just a time for us to be around because we don't get to see each other that much. So I really take that time to just hang out and be a brother, honestly. So pregame, I'll watch them work out. They'll watch me work out. We'll chat then. And then after the game, we'll pretty much do the same thing. But playing against them, it's a blessing, obviously, that my other brothers in the NBA with me. But those are probably my best and most fun games that I play in. So awesome. One-on-one tournaments, holiday times. Do you guys have those? And if so, who wins? I mean, we've played a few times, especially when I've gotten older and gotten to the league. But it's honestly who gets hot that day because obviously we all could play defense and we could score the ball, all three of us can. So it's really whoever gets hot that day and they'll usually take the W for the day. You play with Justin, two separate stops in your career. Spending so much time together, growing up, is it better to play with your brother or without? It's better to play with my brother. He's by far my best teammate I've ever had. Not just like off the court, you get to hang out and spend time with your family. But on the court, I know every move he wants to do, where he wants to go. And I'm the point guard. He knows where I'm going. I know where he'd be at. So even on defense as well. So it obviously works out for us both. And I just got one, I got to play with Drew one year. Hopefully we can get happen, but we'll see. Your parents also both play basketball. I know your sister, Lauren, played basketball as well. I mean, was not playing basketball even an option for you. I know you guys had a lot of backyard moments growing up. But like, what was that like growing up and just a push to who? Just competitive. There was no push really. My dad, he didn't really force me to play basketball. He said, if he wants to, I'm here. If I go to the gym and I'm not doing what I'm supposed to, it'd be pretty much just say we can go home right now. He's not going to force it. But we played every sport like baseball, basketball, football, hockey, sometimes soccer. We'll compete at everything like card games. Like you can name it, we'll be competing. And that obviously helped me grow into the person I am today, always competitive and have that edge. I'm just picturing a garage full of sporting equipment. So much equipment. We always like to ask everybody, you're welcome to the NBA moment. Do you remember yours? I probably have a few, but I know I played against Alec Burke. I forgot what team he was on, but he came in, he was already had. I came in the game, had to guard him, and he ran off like three or four straight buckets. I'm like, man, this is crazy. This is what the NBA is like, and just got to get better and get used to it. That's awesome. Aaron, we appreciate the time. Thanks for playing along at the beginning, even though I wish the Dixit won that one. We'll talk to you soon. Best of luck. Rest of the way. When we come back, we're going to ask Lou about his favorite topic of all time, the 2020 bubble, when Run It Back returns. Run it up, run it back, run it up, run it back, run it up, run it back, run it up, run it back, run it up. There's a whole bunch who won't do it. The Eagles are not going to allow it. And that's why you don't get sometimes the greatest dunkers in the game in the dunk contest, because it's like, I ain't trying to come in second or third or fourth, and it did, because it's about the brand right now. They don't want to do anything to diminish the brand. Diminishing the brand. Dr. Jay says that's why we're not seeing the stars, Chandler. You agree? I agree, but I think that's wrong. I don't think Jaylen Brown not winning the dunk contest. I don't think that diminishes his brand. I still think people are going to respect him as an all-NBA, all-star type of player. I think it's more kids' egos these days for sure. And I think it's guys just not wanting to do it. I think they think the dunk contest has lost its luster. It's kind of a lame thing. Nobody watches anymore. But what they don't realize is when you do get a Jaylen Brown, you do get an Anthony Edwards, that will create that buzz and that excitement around it. So I don't think it diminishes their brand. Like, I don't think it's a bad look if Jaylen Brown doesn't win the dunk contest. I think it's just a great look that he's simply in it. And that's who we want to see in it. We want to see good players in the dunk contest. We want to see good players in the three-point contest. We want to see the best of the best compete, not in a basketball game. So I agree with what he's saying, but I think that if that is the case, the whole outlook is wrong because I don't think it's a bad look for them not to win. I think it's great for the league and great for the actual brand to do. That's what I think he was trying to get across, Chandler. Like, as fans, we don't care if they lose, but from their perspective, I think a lot of players are just scared to put themselves out there to be in a losing position. And I think the more and more you get your superstars back in it, the more and more they don't care. You know, if you've got four all-stars in a dunk contest, somebody has to win. I don't think you really, you don't really care as much. But when you're the only one or you're the only one even considering it and you're dunking against guys that you don't really know, that becomes a different conversation. And so I think, I just think that's what Dr. Jay was trying to get across. But I agree with you. It doesn't actually diminish your brand to lose. Go ahead. If you're Jaylen Brown, are you salty? If you lose to Mack MacLung, you probably are going to lose to him. This is what he does. Like, you know, I mean, I don't think that's a bad look at all. Neither. But I do. There's something to the fact that if it's three other dudes we've never heard of versus three other stars, I guess that's a different kind of losing. Lou, this one's for you. Anthony Davis says, the Lakers would have won the 2020 championship even if there was no bubble. What do you think? I would disagree. I think pre-bubble, the Clippers were playing the best basketball in the league and we're gearing up for it. We've talked about this a hundred and one times. I'm not going to keep going over this and over this. 80 is entitled to his opinion. I'm entitled to my opinion. They did win the championship, so it doesn't really matter what I think. They did get it done, but I disagree. Disagree. Very politely said. I like that. Chandler Kevin Durant said, Steph Curry is the best ever. I had his position in top five player all time. Do you agree? I agree with the best of his position for sure. I think he's the best point guard. I think he's changed the game. I think respect to guys like Magic Johnson and Jake Kidd and Steve Nash, these other guys, but I think Steph is in another bracket. I think he's completely the way he shoots the ball, the way he's won championships, the whole dynasty that he's assembled in Golden State. Yes, he's the best point guard of all time. Top five that you can get a little dicey here because you can go with the Karim, the old school players with crazy resumes. Is he in my top five? No, what about your top five? I want to hear your top five. Because Karim and all those guys are before our time, Chandler. So when I do my top five, I respect those guys, but they're not in my top five. They're just not. I'm a LeBron, MJ, Shack, Steph Curry, and then you can even, again, now we're talking players. Are we talking Kobe? Are we talking Tim Duncan? Are we talking, so I'm a new age guy. I respect the Larry Byrds. I respect the Magic Johnsons. I just think if you put those guys in today's situation, I think they're obviously going to be very good, but I think Steph Curry, I think he's different. I think he's, I think he's, there's no one ever like Steph Curry. It's simple to explain. If he's, if he's in my top, he's in my top. The best point guard ever, and we build a team from one to five, he's going to be the starting point guard. Yeah, like if you give me a team with, with Steph, Kobe, MJ, LeBron and Shack, I don't think they're losing. Ever. And I think that's the five. I think that's a fair five. Yeah, I was like, who's beating that five? No, no, nobody. God, I wish we could find out. It would be so fun to watch that. Um, all right, Lou. Ben Simmons thinks he would be more useful starting than coming off the bench. Oh God. Do you agree? I mean, uh, all right, like Ben, I just wanted to be healthy and play great, whatever position he in. Now, as far as him feeling like he would be more useful, and it started a lot of them on the bench. I mean, you, you were a starter 95% of the time that we've known you'd exist as a basketball player in, um, you couldn't get healthy and things kind of went haywire. And now you're, you're getting back into a groove, you know, take things slow, man. Get, get your, get your footing back under you and start rolling. And then you start demanding more minutes and then you start demanding to be in a, a more successful position or a more useful position as you put it right now. I think this is appropriate for you. You know, allow, allow your body to, to, to get to the place that it needs to get for you to be the guy that you once were, if that is a goal of yours to get back to that level. So, you know, I don't know everybody wants to, everybody wants more for themselves in their career. I understand that. But you know, let's, let's take it nice and slow here, Ben. I like that. That's just good advice. To me, it's like, like who cares? Like this is, this is just ego. This is, this is his, this is maturity. This is play well at the end of the games, play well consistently during the games, and then you'll probably find your way in the starting lineup. So this to me just shows that his priorities are still kind of out of whack. If this is what he's concerned about, like at the end of the day, who cares, man? You're on a struggling team. Help any way you can and you'll find your way in that starting lineup. I almost feel like Ben Simmons would be better to just say, I don't want to answer any more questions and then just leave it like that. That's how media for the rest of the season. Yeah, just like, I got nothing, nothing for you. Chandler Kyle Kuzma said he chose to stay with the Wizards over being traded to the Mavericks because he wanted to stay and build something in Washington. Your reaction? I'm not buying that. No, I'm not. I can't buy it because the Wizards, they're, they're not building anything over there. They're one of the most awful, like their team is in complete shambles. Outside Detroit, we're looking at, the Wizards are really struggling. They have no real pieces besides Kuzma. Jordan Poole now at that contract. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, so I think Dallas is actually building something and Dallas, if that was an actual offer and a possibility, man, I would have jumped on that because that's where a chance where he gets to play with an absolute star and Luca and Kyrie and have a chance to win. And then there's no chance to win here. There's nothing that's getting foreclosed on. There's nothing, there's nothing being built in DC. So I don't agree with this. If this was the case, then I think this was a mistake because I think he'd be very good in Dallas. I think he'd be very good in Sacramento. Washington's tough. Washington's tough. All right, Lou, Anthony Edwards said that Rigo Bear cussed out the team at halftime in their game against the Clippers. Do you remember a player ever giving an emphatic speech that was motivating? I've played with some really good leaders. Andre Guadala gave a speech once when we were on the Sixers. And we were teammates at that time that really stuck with me. He had some really poignant things to say that stuck with me throughout the course of my career. I've played with Pat Bev over a course of five to six years. So I've heard my fair share of things at halftime coming from Pat Bev. I was thrust into a position of leadership at the end of my career for the last six or seven years of my career. So I was nine times out of 10, probably the person to say something at a lot of these halftime. But this is great for Rudy Guadala. I didn't know he had this in his personality. So it's great for Anthony Edwards to shine that light on him and give him the kudos that he needs to hold his team accountable. And so this is cool. But I've had my fair share. I'm curious to see how that went. I might have to call and get the inside scoop on that. Yeah, to me, this is awesome. This is part of the reason why he was brought there. He's that defensive anchor. He could be the leader of this team and as talented as they are and as good of a season they are. I love that he's not accepting this let-up. And they're the number one team in the West. Whether you like it or not, they've proven that over and over again this year. So me personally, I've had some teammates. I've got Zebo used to really get on us. Even Mike Connelly is a soft-spoken guy. He would pull us at a timeout, a halftime. And leaders like that, they do it before the coach does it. They do it before the coach comes in. They do it before the media comes in. You know what I mean? It's not for show. It's not for click. So this is respect for Gobert because this should be part of his DNA, part of his role with this team. I like hearing that, too. Hey, Chandler, what about the guys that wait until coach comes in to start yelling? What about those guys? Y'all teachers, pets. There's a lot of those cats, too. You got a 15-minute halftime. We're sitting there for five minutes in silence. And so as the coach walks in, you're going crazy. I know two names right now that I want to say so bad that I can't. But there's just two guys. What are they rhyme with? Come on. We out the game now, Chandler. Let it fly. Oh my gosh. I'm just going to catch random strays on a Thursday, but I do hate that, Lou. That was my biggest pet peeve. The coach just pets. That's my biggest pet peeve, too, bro. I hated it. Can you text us? The false hustle, guys. The false hustle. It's shut up. Like, you're just doing this to get on the pitch. Yeah, everybody hates that person unless you are that person. And it's so obvious what you're doing. Buzz off. All right. We'll text the thread because now I need to know. Hornets coach Steve Clifford acknowledged he has failed miserably because his players do not care about defense all the time. Wow. Are you surprised he admits something like that, Chandler? Cliff. Cliff has kept it real the entire season. He's turned upset. This isn't an effort problem. This is a talent problem a couple of weeks ago. So he's, I don't know if he's trying to get fired, if he's trying to lose this locker room, because he's telling the truth. This is, everyone thinks it. Everyone knows it. Everyone knows Charlotte simply just, they're not talented enough to win games and compete in the NBA right now. And, but usually coaches don't say that. Same thing here. I mean, if the coach can't get these kids to buy in to the techniques and to the culture and to what that he's trying to get to, you fail. And that's not saying that's an easy job, especially with this collection of players, but I respect Clifford for saying this, but this, this isn't going to age well. He's, he got to imagine he's out of there after two of these comments like this. And it feels like he wants to be out of there. So it's a win-win. Yeah. Get paid, not to coach. I love it. We're going to take a quick break here when we come back. We'll wrap things up on run it back. Get in on all the NBA buzzer beater, ankles, breakers and tomahawk jams with FanDuel America's number one sports book. Right now, new customers get 150 and bonus bets guaranteed when you place a $5 bet. The app is easy to use and there are so many different ways to bet like live, same game parlays, find bets in the new explore tab, make a parlay in the parlay hub, the best way to find popular parlays and more. Download the app, make your first bet a layup. FanDuel official partner of the NBA. Okay. Around the league, we go. So Steph Curry had the 25 points in Tenesis in his first game against Utah. That was early in the season. He's averaging over 32 and a half right now since Draymond returned to the lineup. What will his point total tonight look like? Chandler, guess. I think he's going to give us 36. Okay. I like that. I like that. What's that? 7-3. So that's 7-14-21. You figure six free throws. That's 27. Four layups. You put it that way. It feels like he's got 50. Wow. You went, okay. You went right through the 35. Really? You know what's going like big? Like 50. Like he's just going to need it. That's it. That's unicorn stuff. You put it down for 50. I'm putting it down for 50. Utah played last night. They're a little tired. Yeah. Maybe. 50 for me. You know what I'm just realizing, Michelle? This is not our Friday anymore. We can't say that because we are back tomorrow. We're back tomorrow. We have a Friday show with Tim Hardaway, senior Manana. So don't act like you don't know about it in the morning, Chandler. See you guys tomorrow.