 What's going on guys? I'm here with the lovely Danielle and before we get started, we have to do a makeup check. And for you guys, I got some makeup wipe removers. So you guys, I'm wiping my eyeshadow off for you. These people aren't going to be happy until I wipe my skin off with sandpaper. I guess so too. With all the chemicals in here, it sounds like stuff you would spray on your, your wheat crops. Dacil glucoside. And now I got to wipe the chemicals off my face. But in the meantime, Danielle was an ex-vegan for a period of about a year and a half. And she does have an extensive plant-based diet history that she would like to share with you guys. So I'm going to let Danielle take it away from here. Well, I basically grew up in a household where we didn't eat a lot of meat at all. And I didn't have any of it in my diet, maybe like once or twice a week. So the reason I went vegetarian at first, which was around 8th grade, like 12, 13 years old, is because it was at the time quite trendy and hip to be vegetarian. And I didn't need to, maybe I ate some fish from time to time, but that was it for me. And I also started developing at the time, maybe a year after becoming vegetarian, a disorder known as orthorexia, which is basically when you get obsessed with putting only clean whole foods in your body. To put it short, I was eating grains, but in the form of like brown pasta, brown rice, fruits, vegetables, and some dark chocolate. And for about eight months, I managed to lose my period. And I also managed to lose nearly like 10 kg, which is 20 pounds, which for my frame, I'm five foot six. It's quite a lot. It's visible. She went from about 123 to like 100 pounds. And you lost your period. This wasn't even like a vegan diet. You were still eating some protein, right? You're still eating animal food. Some fish. I was eating some salmon, maybe once a week. And that's it. Maybe some eggs. The other was pretty much bread. So yeah, I also was getting quite sporadic blood from my nose just gushing out whenever I got angry or agitated, which was a lot. I don't know why, but this diet would make me very, very defensive about it and also very offended easily at everything. I'm not talking only about plant based, not just defending my plant based choices or anything, just in general, very emotional and reactive to everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So after that, pretty much a few months after that, I was forced to stop it from my mom who figured out that I wasn't getting my period. So obviously something was wrong. But you were still very young at this point in time, right? Yes. Yes. I was 14, 15. So this was happening during my first year in high school, basically. Towards the end of my first year in high school, I got caught of what I'm doing, basically. And my mom and I went to a doctor, basically a gynecologist that prescribed me some medication, fake hormones to get me to have a period. And this obviously made me a bit chubbier as well. So I stopped doing that altogether. And I just went to basically a standard American diet, you could say, a mix of grains, fruit, veggies, some meats, not enough. But because I was already obsessed, the orthorexia started because of my desire to get thinner, to get slim. I always wanted to be underweight. So I wanted to get back to that. I liked the way I looked back then a lot. And I didn't like the way I look normally at 110 pounds. So I was looking into stuff to try out. And I was stuck in a horrible cycle, meanwhile, of like binging and purging through exercise, through starving myself. But always like low key as not to concern my parents. So there wasn't big yoyos in my weight or anything or my lifestyle. And then I started searching for some quick fix diet, basically I was looking for a miracle, you could say. This was probably early, actually late 2015. So towards the winter. And that's when I found the channel of freely the banana girl, which I'm sure you're familiar with. So I started watching the videos because she was at the time she was making these videos about celebrities and criticizing their diet. So I just went in because of the drama wasn't even looking at, you know, what she ate or anything. And I started looking and I thought, oh my God, this woman is crazy. But as I started getting into the videos and watching more and more, it started making sense, which is super weird. Just I was surprised to myself. She had a lot of videos about a variety of topic like how much time you have to go to the toilet. According to her at least two times a day. She was making videos on like smoking cigarettes on different dietary habits, different diets. It was interesting. So I started looking and obviously she's every the point of every video she makes is to advertise her book and her diet that she developed, which is called row till four. And in the end of every video where she criticized a celebrity, she says that this, this and this celebrity will be able to achieve their dream body only they follow the heart diet, which is wrote in four. So I was like, okay, this makes some sense. You know, we used to eat fruits according to her, you know, back in the day. And I was thinking about it, not thinking really logically, but thinking about it. Okay, so that's true. When, you know, when we didn't have any technology or agriculture, they're sure there was like a lot of fruits, a lot of vegetables. So we could just pick them out from the tree and, you know, just eat them. So I went to her website, started looking at the row till four diet and decided to, to start it, but I was lacking the motivation basically to keep up with it. So freely is saying, and she bombards every one of her videos with scenes of animals being tortured very brutally. And she said that if someone still likes the motivation to become a vegan, you should watch this movie earthlings and then your opinion will definitely change. So one day I watched the movie and basically turn vegan overnight because the movie, to put it lightly, it exploits a lot of these images of brutally tortured animals. And it takes a lot of statistic that if you actually do your own research, it's a bit far fetched to put it like this basically makes its own kind of argument. And if you pull out the statistics objectively, they don't make much sense to what they said in the movie. But at the time you were like in rap and it's like you essentially freely was the first source of information you came across in your dietary journey. And you pretty much got sucked into the vegan cult without really looking at other options, right? Yes, and I have to admit something that I was very egoistical be, although I really love animals and earthlings touched me. I did become vegan because of the ethical side. The one thing that really, really, really pushed me to do it is because she promises this is the peak human diet, which leads to the peak human body. And at the time she was looking very muscular and very fit and very thin, very slim the way I like it, no kind of on the right. If you look at it now, especially now she's gotten even thinner, very sick looking if you ask me. But at the time I was like, Oh, she has the most perfect body. She used to be fat because she always is a close to her like 10 years ago, where she's kind of chubby, but not really fat. And she says, this is me eating meats and this is me eating only vegetables and fruits. So I was in it for the looks. But I was seeing I was in it for dates that makes sense. So I started doing the diet, which basically, if you're looking the website, the recommendations is until four PM, you eat raw. That's why it's called roti for so you eat as much fruit as possible. It has to be around 2500 calories, she said. And most of the fruits she shows and she eats and she recommends is bananas, for bananas, dates, mangoes, all sorts of sugary sugary fruit that is very exotic to where I live. So I live a lot of those in Bulgaria. No, not a lot at all. These are very expensive in Bulgaria all year round. Doesn't matter when. And they're also not ripe ever. So just to give you a bit of a background here, what we have is pretty much three or four months of fruits. And the fruits are very limited as choices like apples and pears and pear sorry, strawberries maybe for one month. And that's it. And you don't really have much fruit besides that. Bananas, avocados, these are extremely expensive. So this is for, you know, up until four PM, you eat as much as you can and put them in a shake blender. And then for dinner, you have a kilo or half a kilo of potatoes chopped and baked in oven with no fat. That's like a must. And you make a sauce from canned tomato sauce plus half a cup of sugar, coconut sugar, which I'm sorry, but it's the same as sugar. It doesn't matter if it's coconut or not. So you make the sauce and you basically pour it all over the potatoes to give them some taste and you munch on it. The thing is, I was eating constantly on this diet, like I was eating nonstop. And when my mom first saw me doing like a casual day in the diet, where I put like seven bananas in the blender, she was like, what the hell are you doing? You're insane. This is a lot of sugar. And I was, I snapped back and we had this huge argument because I was like, no, this is fruit sugar. It's different. You don't, you don't understand. You're so close minded. And I was in a constant like fight with her from that moment on pretty much because she just, she thought it was crazy. And everyone else did too. She said, I'm not going to pay for this diet because if you have, if you make the calculation, you pretty much have to spend about like $15 a day to eat that much fruit. And that's only the bananas. And I was basically giving money out of my pocket. I didn't have any money to eat that's for anything. I was just eating the bananas at home and then apples. Then I started noticing that I was gaining fat very, very rapidly, like very quick. I was really shocked because I was promised that within a few months of doing roti for your body naturally goes back to the way it's supposed to be, which is lean. And by the way, it's very ironical to me now, but she gives this example that animals, like for example, cheetah eats what it's supposed to eat in its natural habitat. And that's why you never see fat cheetahs in the wild, right? And at the time that makes complete sense. So we, as fruitarians, we have to eat fruits so that we go back to our natural state, which is lean. And now realize that's like a good point for carnivore diet actually. Being in Bulgaria, you never thought like in the wintertime, like November, when you're watching freely videos, like you never looked out the window and said, where am I going to get all these exotic fruit? But you think it's safe to say that the confidence you had that it would help you reach your physique goal was really what was instilling that, like your confidence in the diet in general, like just that idea that you were going to be skinny. Was that really the main driving factor? Yes. Yes. Yes. And also not hurting animals, but as I said on the second, that was like on the back of my head. The thing is the more, the more I realized that I was gaining fat, the more videos I watched where she kind of, in every video she puts out sort of like a contra argument to whatever people might say to her, might say to contradict her diet. So she would say, okay, so you're gaining fat. Well, that is because you might be coming from a background of eating disorder. Are you? And I'm like, yes, yes, yes, I am. She's like, okay, well, this means that you actually might need a few years to get to that body. And it just, it's a vicious cycle of purely indoctrination, you know, just keeping you in that state where you just expecting something to happen. It's never going to happen detoxing. You're not doing it right. That's your body's adjusting. I've heard that as well. Yeah, I did veganism right. And I did it wrong as well. And both in, you know, someone like freely mind, both are better than not being vegan at all. So yeah, you saw a vlog where she lied and that she lost the weight by pretty much writing her bike every day, right? Well, basically, she used to have this blog. I forgot the name of it. But in the blog, she wrote basically about her journey, becoming from, you know, chubby kind of chubby to like skinny as she is. She actually says to her followers that she did it because of roti or pork. She actually only rate eight raw food. So raw fruits like mangoes and stuff and cycled maybe like five, six kilometers a day. They also have another video which I think is still up with her ex boyfriend, where they tell the people that get fat on the road to pork. Oh, you're doing it wrong if fat comes. That's literally the video. So yeah, I was like, okay, I was exercising every day, doing like HIIT workouts, you know them. Yeah, the high intensity interval training. So you're getting up right off, taking a rest. A lot. I was maybe like an hour a day, each day. And I was getting more and more fat. Yeah, maybe a bit more defined because of the workout, but still fat. I was gaining weight very, very, very fast. So I went from 50, 50 kilos before the diet to maybe 65, 70 after the diet, which you can help me with the weight. So she was about 150 pounds at five, six. And I mean, she's about, that was probably like 20, 25 pounds overweight by no means was she, I mean, probably below average, considering how heavy people in America are. But this weight loss issue and people exercising and falling a caloric deficient isn't just exclusive to vegan diets. This is more in the context of high carbohydrate consumption, high sugar consumption. So, you know, you basically, you gained a bunch of weight, you had a bunch of brain fog, you were feeling terrible. Yes, yes. I was just going to say about the mental problems. Basically, I was at the beginning, you get sort of like a sugar high all the time. So you feel like this is super working for you and it's amazing, makes you feel lively, amazing, awesome. Then you kind of crash. You have this period that you're like, so I actually started developing my depression at this point, which I'm not sure if it's related to, to veganism, but it definitely, it definitely got worse because of it. So I was having brain fog. I was very snappy, and I was done with this really diet. And I decided to quit the diet, but not veganism. And I went back basically to my old ways, which is no like restricting calories and decided to just do what I know best. So my new vegan diet was ramen, cup ramen. You have these types that taste like pork, like beef. And I love the taste because it has this artificial taste, but it does remind you of me. So I ate these, but they're completely vegan. I was like, oh my God, yes, something that tastes like meat, but it's vegan. And I was eating maybe like we have these big packages of spinach. So I would have like one package a day with a lot of vinegar, a lot of salt. And I would also eat a lot of, like I would also drink a lot of papesealite with a bunch of ice inside. So sugarless papesee, this big of a cup with a lot of ice. I was craving a lot of ice as well. And I should mention that around this time actually I did blood work for a variety of just a recommendation from my doctor. And I did see that my suspicions that I had iron deficiencies were confirmed. So for a long time before, you know, being diagnosed with it, I have seen that my face is very pale, very like grayish. And I just feel very weak at times. So this confirm it, I have iron deficiency, but I thought I'm eating so much spinach, it's so rich in iron, this must help for sure. So where's the wrong in that? So anyway, I ate like this for a month. So the ramen and the papesee and the spinach in one day I just got struck with like 40 degree temperature out of low air. I was in bed for a week. And I thought, I literally thought I would die because I was peeing blood. I didn't know what was wrong with me. I couldn't get up and like ask for help. My parents were out of the city. I didn't want to call them because then it would escalate in another situation where, you know, I'm doing bad stuff to my body, etc, etc. So I'm sorry, that's 104 degree temperature for us Americans, by the way, which is insane. Yeah, it's very high. You can die after like two more or one more. I don't know. Anyway, so I thought, okay, this is insane. I must call someone at least. So I call one of my friends and she came by and drove me to the ER. And they basically told me I have kidney stones and I was having a kidney, not failure, but crisis. I'm not sure how to say it in English, which comes with a very high fever and basically you're peeing away the stones. So I was like, why would that happen? I've been eating so healthy like what I haven't been eating any, you know, super high in just what standardly what they blame on like kidney stones is a bad diet. A bad diet in my perception is a diet full of like meats and fats. That's what I thought at the time. So I was eating this vegan diet that's supreme and I was having like kidney stones. Anyway, just to explain for anyone who's unfamiliar, spinach has very high levels of calcium bound to oxalic acid and drinking two liters of Pepsi a day and eating a pound of spinach every day is literally the best way to get like if you can construct a diet for someone to get kidney stones, this would be it. Like, oh, and alcohol and alcohol as well. I just forgot to mention that, which is another one on the top of, you know, spinach and Pepsi, because even more pressure. You have the high calcium intake that oxalates. It's really easiest way to get kidney stones by far. Something I noticed is when I was drinking alcohol the next day was the moment that I would crave animal foods the most is the day after I would binge drink the most. Like I was wanting fatty eggs with butter so much. And yeah, I didn't, I didn't do it. Obviously, I would actually panic at the sight of my food, my vegan food touching something that is not vegan. I was just being all around weird, although I wasn't preaching veganism to like my friends, I would be the opposite. So I would be like an introvert and be extremely defensive. If someone even managed to say something about it, I would go berserk, basically. So at the time I started having also very severe pains in my joints, like where my knees are, especially when I was dehydrated, I would feel it even more. And I had like very big eye bags, had weirdest thing is I started getting like very severe acne on my chest and my back, which I've never had in my life. And I thought it was hormonal because usually you just get it on your face if your diet is bad. My face was just like devoid of color. So, you know, that was fine. I went to went to a doctor, dermatologist. Yeah, at the point where I went to a doctor, I was still vegetarian. So I was already transitioned from veganism. But I was eating mostly plant based. So I completely quit veganism and vegetarianism at the beginning of 2017. I had the acne problem from before. And so I went like twice. And the first and the second time the funniest thing is the first and second time he basically told me the same thing. He said I was eating or had too much sugar in my diet, which was spiking my insulin, which in turn was basically making my skin overproduce oils. And I didn't really listen to that the first time, because I just it wasn't something I wanted to hear, you could say. So I just went with what I knew best. And at some point, which was I was already probably like doing veganism for a year, yes, a year solid. I started losing clumps of my hair in the shower, which really, really, really stressed me because I thought, okay, you're losing hair that could not be in any way related to your diet, it must be stress. As I said, I started developing depression like a few months back. So I was thinking, okay, my depression is getting bad. And I'm just feeling more stressed than usual. So that's why it starts falling. I was also leaving with my dad. So instead of living with my mom, I was already living with my dad. And he kept telling me to stop doing that. It's super healthy. And at the time, he's actually started doing keto. And he is a very overweight man. So I was like, I'm not really listening to advice from a fat man. But his wife, who is like maybe like 40 years old, she was never obese. She started doing keto with him, and pretty much lost like 20 kilos in maybe like four or five months. Yeah, and she looked amazing. Very fast weight loss. Yeah, but I was still looking at him, you know, I was like looking at him. And I was like, no, I'm not taking advice from you. You're still fat. You don't know what you're talking about. So I basically shut them off every time that he tried to speak to me about it. And at the end, maybe like a month or two into my care problem, I realized this is not going to stop anytime soon. And I was very desperate because, you know, as a girl, you don't want your hair to fall off. You kind of look so with me, the dad was always connected to that visual aspect. So you could say that although I was triggered to go into veganism, vegetarianism by the promise of looking better, I was also kind of the transition because of that as well. So I finally started eating some animal foods first, the transitioning back to veganism, which sorry, vegetarianism, which immediately almost fix my hair issues. So introducing some eggs and some cheese helped me a lot with my hair and my nails, which before that were very brittle and basically falling apart. And I was like, okay, this is like, this is weird. Why is this working? But I think a big part of me transitioning is the fact that I stopped like, exposing myself to vegan media and, you know, videos on YouTube or articles and stuff like that. I was still eating sugary junk food when I did transition. So I completely transitioned in February 2017. I stopped eating vegan vegetarian and I started eating some meat. But I was still with standard American diet, just I was eating meat now. And immediately, as I said, my nails started growing, my hair completely recovered. I was feeling just more energetic. I was still very depressed, though, which didn't really clear up until up until when I started doing intermittent fasting. So what else should I say? So just to sum things up to this point, you know, you were very young. You had an orthorexic behavior due to the trendiness of vegan vegetarian throughout your high school years, really just variations of the vegan diet from raw till four. And then just like a junk food vegan diet essentially deteriorated your health to the point where, you know, you're losing your hair, you're having all these issues. And you finally started eating animal products again. When I started eating animal products, the thing is, I didn't fix my acne. It fixed my nails, my hair. I didn't fix my acne. Actually, my acne started getting worse on my back and chest. So I went to the doctor again, the same doctor. Funny enough, it just happened to be the same doctor. And I wanted from the cream that he gave me last time, because last time he did tell me stop sugar, but I'll give you a cream. It's not going to solve your main issue. It will solve the symptoms for a while. So I was like, I went there and I wanted the cream again, but he said that he will give me the cream, but shouldn't I consider treating the problem of the root? So I was like, okay, what do you mean? And he said basically that it's sugar again. And he was like, don't you know, there's a lot of misconception about sugar. We always, like you millennials always try to be gurud or coached in something. Do your own research. There's a lot of stuff that hides how sugar is so, so, so bad for you. And actually now it's promoted, fat is promoted to the, to the villain. And he said it's not like that. You should at least try it for like a month, not eat sugary stuff. Don't even, don't even remove the fruits, leave some of the fruits. Just don't eat any processed foods and processed sugars and white pasta and stuff like that. And you see the difference. So I was like, okay, I got the cream and I started cutting out sugar. And I started also intermittent fasting at the time, which was as I said, the beginning of, no, maybe the middle, that was already maybe the middle of 2017. I started doing that. And maybe within three, four months, I went back to my original weight. So 55, which is normal for me. And I was feeling much better, less cravings, less brain fog. I was still having a lot of like ups and downs with blood sugar. So I was feeling very, very weak in the morning, because when you, when you still incorporate like, I was maybe even maybe a hundred, 200 grams of carbs, still from sources I thought were long lasting. So like brown bread and brown pastas, it still makes you hungrier during throughout the day, I've noticed. So at the end of 2017, I started researching different ways of eating again. And I stumbled upon this channel called what I've learned, which advocates strongly on keto diets and just fat based fat, heavy diets, started looking into it. But it took me some time before I was convinced, although the science of these videos is much, much, much better than the pseudoscience that you see in the vegan videos. I realized that actually, people can, people can pretty much coach you into an opinion they have with throwing like pseudoscience like this, and they just, they just don't, they don't expect you to actually do your own research. So yeah, after that, pretty much now what I'm doing now, which I started doing heavily from the, from the middle of 2018, I started cutting back sugar seriously. And then towards the end of 2018, I found your channel. I found Mikaela Peterson, which is the daughter of Jordan Peterson. I'm pretty much sure everyone knows them. And I also found Saveridge, I think it's pronounced. So I started watching your videos. So what do I, what do I get from it? Well, there's this girl that basically fixed an issue that was pretty much going to end her life. You know, she has very severe autoimmune disease, which was cured by essentially what is a keto diet. You have, you and Saveridge that pretty much, well, you provoked a lot of my opinions on a lot of different topics. And when I first found you guys, I also thought you were kind of crazy, because when do you expect to see like a title with eating raw meat all day? You know, it's kind of crazy. I'm sorry. But now I start incorporating that too. And I can definitely see why you're doing this. So the reason for me to start looking into something more sustainable is because in 2018, in the beginning, I got pregnant and my anemia got very bad. So I would like literally randomly pass out, which I didn't know why, why it wasn't, I went to the hospital for maybe 10 days. And they still did not give me a clear answer in my exit papers to the hospital. It didn't really say why I was there, what was wrong with me. And even after exiting the hospital, I still had throughout my pregnancy, just random, dizzy spells, I would just pass out, I would feel really, really bad blackout and pass out. I even had a case where I passed out on the bus stop and people had to, you know, help me. And I was okay, I was doing something not completely right. So I need some sustenance. I checked my blood levels a few times because you are required to do that for your pregnant. And always no matter how much meat I was eating, I still had very, very low iron. And I was wondering why this is, which obviously now I know is because you don't absorb iron so well when you also eat grains and stuff with it. Yes, yes, exactly. So I started at the end of my pregnancy to eat a lot of raw fish, despite it being sort of a taboo. And a lot of people would criticize me about it. But I ate daily meats like, you know, also the meats here we have is dried meat. So you have this pork and beef mix that you dry. And I ate like I ate them by the bunch literally else craving them so much. Also, you're forbidden to eat cheese, it's like aged mature cheeses. But I also ate these. I thought maybe that my body knows a bit better than what they said. And I also knew that the reason people say, oh, don't eat raw fish, don't eat dried meat is because of the potential bacteria. So I just managed to get stuff from a cleaner source and I thought I would be sorted. And I was there's absolutely nothing wrong with my baby. It's actually very big and I am breastfeeding it to this day. And I'm planning to continue. But I have the point is I have a lot of milk. There's nothing, nothing wrong with my diet that in any way reflects on me or my child. So at the end of the pregnancy, I was already like after the pregnancy, I was free from any food or versions and stuff that that comes with pregnancy. So I could finally actually begin doing something that I could control. So I started doing keto at the end of 2018, so December, doing it seriously. I mean, so I will eat meats, cooking various ways. I would eat some veggies like maybe five or 10% of my daily intake is vegetables and just for taste. And a lot of milk, we have very good sources of milk and pork here. So we have farms with basically Bulgaria's most consumed meat is pork. From a farm, it's very cheap and very delicious to buy pork. The pork is like a deep red color. It kind of looks like a Wagyu beef. I'll show you pictures. And it also has very, very good variety and consistency of milk and butter. The milk is amazing. It has this thick layer of cream. Yes. And beef, not so much. We have mostly keto for work here. But I just do it mostly in pork and I still get amazing results. My iron level is pretty much top notch, which has never been since I was 12. Since basically I started doing any type of blood work that I remember. I always had low iron. And I also started craving some raw meats. I would eat some of the beef that I buy, like the more expensive ones from the farm that I know is fresh. I would eat it with a bit of soy sauce because I'm still getting used to the taste of raw meat. Someone I have no problem eating raw, although it's not like local food, but we do have Bulgaria does have a coast. So you have source of fatty mediterranean fish. We also, I kind of think Greece is also in our region. So you could say it's kind of local. It's not that far away. And yeah, I just, I haven't never felt better. I mean, I have an infant that's three months old and I get maybe like four or five hours of sleep. And I feel amazing during the day. I have no ups and downs. It's just like a steady line. You could say maybe I'm getting like sleepy thoughts earlier than usual. And also maybe another, I wouldn't say a negative. It's actually a big positive because if you haven't heard from this story, I kind of had a problem with alcohol. So I have less craving for alcohol. I don't want to drink it. I don't know why. Maybe because you get much worse hangovers when you're doing keto, which I don't know why this is, maybe you can explain, but yeah. I've actually heard of explanations to why people stop craving alcohol on, you know, I'm not sure if it tied in with blood sugar or the pancreas or whatever it was. It could have been a caloric thing too. I don't remember the exact conversation, but I know there's definitely, you know, a few places where you kind of, you know, you were really fortunate in the sense that your doctor gave you some excellent advice. Like if you went to a doctor here in America, that's the last thing they said. You know, the last thing a dermatologist would be saying to me would be, I'll remove sugar from your diet. You know, it's dermatologists never said to me that, you know, diet was anyway related to my acne. It was always just give me an ointment or give me a pill or whatever it was. And the thing I like you brought up is the food quality. And you go into any American supermarket you have this, it's like pink, almost white pork that is not what meat is supposed to look like. Pork is supposed to have that deep red, almost purple color, just like beef. And even beef in the supermarket, it's like a light red and beef is supposed to be a deep, dark, almost purplish color, just like game meats are. Did you want to tell them about the chicken soup as well? Yeah. Yeah. I was actually going to mention first that the quality of the meat here in the supermarket is pretty much the same as you say. But there is definitely more access to quality beef, even in the supermarket. However, I would I would like go on a whim and say that even though I did not begin veganism because of the ethical side, now my whole perspective because of your videos as well has changed a lot. And also the way that I think about stuff. So here there's a lot of hunters. So one time I was speaking to this hunter, we have near my village, we have a hunting group that they go and hunt boars. So wild boars is the most commonly hunted thing here. And I was talking to him and I asked him, don't you feel sad when you kill one of these animals? Some of them have little boy children. And he said, basically, not unless you use all of it, then I have no remorse. So I was like, what do you mean you use all of it? And he said, okay, so let's say you kill an animal as a trophy, you take a picture and you're just flaunting that you killed something. Yes, that's not very cool. But when you kill an animal like us, we literally strip every piece of meat, freeze it, eat what we can't have any space anymore to freeze. And the skin is in front of the fireplace to keep you know, the kids warm or whatever to play there. So every piece of that animal literally is used in something. Yeah, we call it nose to tail over here. That's something that's something that obviously not every person in their daily life can do. But the way that you can do it, I thought, okay, how can I a city living person can do something similar to that? So I can just use farms that are owned by, you know, a few people. First of all, I'm supporting smaller businesses, which is amazing because here in Bulgaria, we have a problem that big businesses basically supermarkets crush our entire market. And second of all, I'm actually doing something ethical. If you look at it from this perspective, that you're you're thanking the animal for providing you the necessary nutrients and you're eating it from a clean source. So I was like, okay, that's totally fine by me. Now that's that's exactly my opinion now. And with Bulgaria, as you said, the quality of food here is really amazing. You have pork that's as I said, red, strict with fat, the chickens here you can buy from a farm as well, my granny raises chickens, we have maybe like 100. And they're not as big as your store bought chicken is like this. And the homemade chicken is maybe like this when it's cooked. My granny makes like a thick chicken soup. The way it's made here is that you put all the organ meats in the broth. The broth is from it basically juices all the chicken for like two hours by they boil it and all the juices just like combine very well. You also fortify the broth with a few egg yolks and some milk. And this when you drink it when you eat it, basically, those people say it can literally revive dead. And yes, when you do have like a flu or something, I'm not kidding, it literally can can make you from like drowsy to pretty much energetic and back to health. So yeah, I think that especially for this region, the key to way of dieting of actually not dieting, it's a lifestyle is the best because it's how we used to eat many, many years. And I actually dug out something very interesting for you today. The Prague predecessors I'm not sure how to say that word, basically the ancestors here, my ancestors, they're called the proto Bulgarians or proto Bulgarians. They were nomadic nomadic tribe. And I'm very interested in history, it says in the history, in a lot of history sources, it said that they associated farming because there were slabs here before them. So when they came here, they saw the slabs doing their farming, but they associated farming the earth with dead people. So meddling with the soil meant dead people. And they thought it would it bring it brings like bad energy. So they mostly and mainly ate meat, including horse meat, which is very popular here as well to eat. Yeah, that's quite interesting in my opinion. It's a metaphor. He veggies die. It's interesting. A lot of if we look at any indigenous diet for any period of time, especially preneolithic revolution, the presence of animal foods in the diet is always something that has really been where we've extracted all of our nutrition. And then the plant foods always come as a necessity or like a secondary aspect. But this is a really unusual story in a sense that you were fortunate enough to kind of not really suffer too much from the detrimental aspects of the vegan diet and that you were guided out of it in a way. Unfortunately, we see a lot of people who end up being vegan for a very prolonged period of time. And just the fact that you found out the importance of these foods early in life is definitely something to be at least happy about, I think. But how did that in general? I mean, of course, we could probably talk about how crazy your vegan days of eating were on the roto 4 diet. But I think there's plenty of examples of that. Oh, just open roto 4 on Google and you see. Yeah, right. But what I wanted to know was how did, I mean, this must have changed your life drastically in general. I mean, I can't imagine how much like turmoil there was in a sense when you were on the vegan diet, when you're having all these health issues. How did that affect your day today? And now, how has that changed? Is it almost like you can't kind of, you can't almost believe how different your life is now in a way? Definitely. But also I was, my biggest problem with it is I was very vulnerable and I was obviously seeking some sort of quick fix, some sort of thing I can follow. I think that's the issue with most of the vegan followers. So they're looking for something that's going to fix all their problems. But it's just not that. Think about it logically. I was just feeling so drowsy every day, feeling happy one, one moment when I ate, and then feeling very down like 30 minutes after always bloated on the toilet. And now it's not like that. It's sort of like food has not become my obsession like then. Now it's just something that I do to feel my body. And yes, sometimes I do indulge in like preparing something that's like flavor dense or something. But I'm not super crazy and obsessed with food. And all my teenage years are characterized by an eating disorder behavior. And I think veganism just fueled it further, which the keto diet and let's say paleo diet kind of reverts it. Okay, so even though to people like outside of it, it would seem like an extreme diet. It's not, I always counter this with, I don't know who I've heard saying this, maybe you but do pandas have an extreme diet by eating only bamboo? No, because that's what they're supposed to eat. So I don't really think about food that much. And that's the reason I wanted to share this because I've my biggest pain with veganism is that it actually seeks after vulnerable teenagers. And it seeks after the weak of mind, the ones that want to be coached into something. And that's really, really dangerous when you're talking to teenagers, when you're talking to moms that are expecting kids, that that's something that like really, really bothers me, vegan pregnant women, vegan breastfeeding women. I mean, I'm breastfeeding and my baby is literally gaining a kilo a month, which is insane. But it's still not fat, you know, it's gaining weight in that way that babies are healthy. And my doctor's always given me compliments. And I think it's because my breast milk is very nutrition dense. And I look at people and I look at the vegans that even would refuse for the child to eat even adapted formula because it's made from cow milk protein, I think. So yeah, it's really disgusting. I mean, you know, there's many opinions out there about the vegan diet in general, about the benefits of the keto diet in general. But the fact that you would deprive someone of nutrition, let alone a child is what does not sit well with me. And I think one big issue with these vegans, and I mean, I'm sure you have many negative things to say about freely and what she's doing in regards to poaching vulnerable young people. But one huge issue in regards to veganism is that there's not anything with as much drive behind it in a way. With vegans, you have all these propaganda-like documentaries, you have all these people pushing the agenda to such unbelievable extents that the likelihood it's going to be met by anything of that magnitude is it's there's nothing else. People aren't out there pushing, there's no paleo, there's no keto, there's no, you know, stop eating sugar. I mean, there are stop eating sugar documentaries. But you know, the point is no one is like putting on a suit of cucumber armor and a broccoli spear and going around and try and convince people to, you know, that's what they're doing with vegans. Oh, we used to have something like this here, they would put themselves into like, you know, the type of box they put meat in the store with cellophane on it. So they undress with like bras and panties, and they put themselves into this on our main street here in Sofia. And people made fun of them actually here, the movement is not very famous, not very popular. I'm talking about general mass between people from like 1314 to my age, it is quite popular. So yeah. But just to put it shortly, I think I did myself a favor. And another thing is I also, I also seem to notice that when you, you know, when you come off the vegan diet, you kind of do it in secret, which is what I did because of the insane backlash that you have. Obviously, I don't have any followers or anything that I really care about like, you know, famous cases last month, few the last few months. But still people really do criticize you because you are a killer all of a sudden. So yeah. I mean, we see this time and time again, and the way that vegans respond to the I am no longer vegan people. It's unbelievable. I mean, the few that have happened in the past few weeks, they've literally had to take down the videos because of the backlash. And it really shows how much of a cult and how indoctrinated these people are. They also did it. They also did the transition before putting up the videos. I mean, they put up the videos like some cases even years later. Why is that? Because, because of exactly that insane backlash that that's what gets me though. These people are eating meat for months to year and no one knows about it. I'm very curious how many closet vegans there are. What is it? Would it be closet meat eaters that are posing as vegans? I'm sure there's plenty of them on YouTube. It's, it's crazy. And you know, you're not, you're not sitting there watching them what they eat. You know, with them in the supermarket, you really don't know. But which, which brings me to the to something. And finally, I want to add that actually, I was on a forum, someone said that exactly freely someone that actually, you know, promotes now she's leaving off greed. She is taking showers in the rain and stuff like that. And in reality, she actually lives in a gated community in Ecuador. She has like a fucking lawnmower in the back of her video. Someone is like, you know, doing her garden, and she has all these electronics and electricity and clean water. And meanwhile, maybe like two streets down, people are starving. And but she has no go figure. But I hear the baby in the background, Daniel. Yeah, actually, she's kind of like upset now. So I was just gonna say that maybe we should wrap it up a bit. Okay. Yeah. No, that's fine. I'm gonna let you go take care of your daughter. But did you have any final notes you wanted to say overall? I mean, I think we're just really, you know, trying to punch through a brick wall here. Unfortunately, I mean, the more stories that come out, you know, the more evidence we have against it. But I think stories like yours and stories that, you know, other girls on my channel have told are really helping people wake up in a sense. And you're giving them the context of something they can relate. You know, maybe there are some young girls or young boys that watch this video, and they open their mind to the idea that there are other options in the diet. This is how they're having what they're suffering from. You know, it's not that they're not doing the vegan diet properly. It's simply something that cannot be done properly. There was a comment on one of Spheridge's videos yesterday, there's no right way to do a wrong thing. And I don't think there is any better way to put it. But Danielle, did you want to say anything to Frankie Boy's subscribers here today? Just think about it, like, five, six hundred years ago, the fruits, the way that they look now, they didn't look like that at all. And also, don't eat something you can't eat raw, you know, how do you really eat rice and starch raw? You can't. And I know it's kind of crazy to say and think at the beginning, but me, dairy, we always used to consume it raw. So just think about that. Think about logical, the logical perspective of things and do some research, be open minded. That's maybe all I want to say. So yeah. No, Danielle, thank you so much for sharing your story. Thank you. Is there any anywhere you wanted them to, you know, you're on Instagram, you're on Twitter, any contact, anything, no? Yeah, I do have an Instagram. I do have an Instagram. 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