 But at least Thursdays. Yeah Thursdays on the morning rest of the week. I would not recommend it as a well certainly therapeutic I find it so anyway We're gonna fire up the therapy show again because we had a really good time at that. Yeah. Yeah, you should like Real quick. Let me just I got a oh, oh, I was gonna ask if the gains any better. So we oh, yeah No, you're son of fine. It's not a good I have done everything but start the show I think Yeah, I live on video. Hi video. Well video one of those days hangout was giving us a little panic attack of its own But I think it's stable now. It's taking nice five-second breaths. Mm-hmm deep breaths hangout All right Let's do this. Here we go When I first tried the Daily Tech news show it was so good I told two friends about it and they told two friends and so on and so on and so on It gives me super tech news Super informative guests and super fresh smelling hair to support the show go to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday April 20th 2016. I'm Tom Merritt joining me today Mr. Scott Johnson of the Frogpants Network host of the morning stream purveyor of gaming news and beyond How are you sir? Good. I'm still basking in the the the hot sweaty glow of that potential PlayStation 4 leak which I know you guys talked about a little bit at length yesterday and man gamers everywhere Or just can't believe that the console world might change right in front of her eyes, but We got a a long email from yaru Who is a a long time? Contributor to the show. Thank you yaru talking about how he does he is upset He is upset about the idea that they would put out a new version of the playstation because he's worried It's always about worries, right? He's worried that The developers will dumb down their games that they won't make them better And so it'll be a waste of money or or that and then that sony might let them Create a different version for the higher level. Anyway, it's all about fears That's right. And and now today we have a very specific fear that that playstation's data will not be encrypted after all Well, yeah, there's a lot of that. We're going to talk about the latest in the encryption debate the latest shots fired by the tech companies A little later on but let's start off with the headlines Your peon commission has issued a statement of objections to google's practices distributing the android operating system You're going to hear that google's been charged with things and it's kind of a kind of a charge But essentially the way this process works is the commission says these are the things we think are problems Google you now respond to them and then it's a back and forth. They've been doing this with search results already It's a long process and we're still waiting for that to be resolved. Now. They're starting in with android Here are the problems android has 90 market share in most european states That means that they could abuse their market share because they have such a preponderance of the market The objections stated by the european commission Are related to three policies Uh for one to use the google play store app on your android device Manufacturers must agree not to sell any non google android based phones. They must pre install search and chrome And google provides financial incentives to make its search An exclusive pre-installed option in other words, no other search engines google has 12 weeks to respond In a blog post it stressed that its agreements are entirely voluntary and any manufacturer can download android for free anytime they want Interesting i can't wait to see how that pans out microsoft phil spencer announced a big Whoa, whoa, whoa, I have something to say about this Sorry, uh, yeah, no, I thought I thought I was giving you a chance to say something because here's the thing I think the fact that google says hey if you take our google play store You got to do this search thing. I think that's fine personally I think the interesting thing about the financial incentives It's like well financial incentives are fine unless you have 90 of the market and it becomes like Hey, it'd be a shame if something happened to your you know, let's let's give you a little money Maybe that's an abuse of power But the one that i'm a hundred percent behind Is google saying if you want the google play store You have to agree not to sell other devices with android based operating systems That takes away the benefit of an open source operating system If you you're basically bullying out The benefit that having an open source operating system has and when google says well, it's voluntary Yeah, you can choose not to have the most popular operating system That's on 90 of the phones and see how well that works for you. I mean we you know, we've seen that cyanogen and amazon have had mild success But it's really hard for them to get manufacturers to make their phones If those manufacturers then have to give up making android phones that have the google play store on them Doesn't it seem uh from if i'm playing google advocate here Not i'm not comparing them to the devil or anything But if i'm playing advocate of google outside of that one provision Kind of makes sense that their services being more integrated into how android works and how things are distributed search for and found and whatever It makes sense that they're using established Core google services because There's a financial reason for that. It's sure you have to create something new every time you've got underlying underpinning tech That kind of runs everything. They just also happen to be tied to their core services I I don't see anything wrong with that. In fact, I would see a lot of things wrong with not doing that That would seem like bad business for google to To not have that as you know as part of the standard experience So that part I I have zero problem with any of that, but you're right this this last little bit is uh It's just a little it's a little weird given What android is supposed to be in the way they've positioned it? It's just a little strange and outside and there has been a case uh one time in southeast asia and I It horribly can't remember which manufacturer it was but one of them was going to come out with a third party android based operating system Uh that was entirely modded. So it didn't look like android and google made them stop weird Yeah, open source, baby. It's closed Uh microsoft phil spencer announced something kind of big on the blog yesterday or today actually microsoft has now ceased production of the xbox 360 Existing inventory. I don't know how much of it will be sold out and available availability will depend on what country you're in Uh and at some point maybe what store you're in xbox live servers for the 360 will remain live No word on whatever that would be considered out and done xbox 360 launched in november 22nd 2005 and it is survived by its offspring the xbox one Memorials could be sent to phil spencer care of redmond washington I mean we all knew that they would come it's the fact that it's uh You know the 360 was very successful and the fact that they've gone this long still making new versions of the box It's actually kind of a testament to the success of the box the first xbox when they were done and it was 360 time They were freaking done stop production stop making software stop support stop everything Because here comes the new guys. So the fact that it's gone, you know as long as it has from 2013 till now We've got three years now That's actually pretty good for players if you are still interested in that as the less expensive available platform So You know they're not going to get 10 years out of the thing But you you did all right a lot of people were looking at the 360 as sort of uh A bargain version of the game console because of the backwards compatibility And the cheaper price when the xbox one first came out So i'll be curious if this is opening the way for microsoft to put out some other kind of console Yeah, because sony always tends to do this thing where they try to extend the life of the previous generation console Up to an additional eight to ten years Yeah They'll support it for as long as they can and a lot of that depends on the success rate of the console And they've done pretty well with that playstation two was the top-selling console long after the 360 and the playstation three came out Yeah Even the players one he has one same thing. They made the little tiny version of it. They kept kind of revising it They they like to do that microsoft if they go any longer Than this would really be breaking new ground. So Personally this feels about right to me and um, you know, you got to do it sometimes so may as well pull the cord The electronic frontier foundation filed a lawsuit today against the u.s. Department of Justice The suit seeks disclosure of documents showing whether companies Like google or apple have been compelled to provide technical assistance for surveillance Authorized by the secret foreign intelligence surveillance court the eff requested the documents under the freedom of information act But we're told that no responsive applications for warrants existed The ff's like it didn't look very hard. Uh, so they claim an exhaustive search was not conducted hence the lawsuit The new usa freedom act requires the court to declassify significant decisions or new interpretations of law And I think that's the eff's point is telling us. There's no responsive warrants right at the moment Is not what the freedom act says the freedom act says you have to tell us if you made a significant decision You know, which having apple creates software to decrypt a phone For instance would be an example of a significant decision Or if you had a new interpretation of the law Such as under the all writs act or any or something anything like that They're essentially saying look we see what the fbi is doing over here in public court Is the cia or the nsa doing the same thing in the secret court Yeah, also we need a freedom of information act for the freedom of information act. It feels like because every time this is invoked It's like We don't have anything Well, all right. Well, how do we know that like because we told you we need some we need some kind of like Transparency on the finding of the freedom of information act request. Well, and that's what the lawsuit that's this is your remedy is to say Well, fine, we don't believe you were taken into court All right, like so it's a posting on the website of the u.s. Office of director of national intelligence Who fancy shows the u.s. Foreign intelligence surveillance court issued its first authorization to collect phone records Under the new usa freedom act passed last year in 2015 The new law allows for the secret requests for targeted metadata from telcos rather than through bulk collection Uh, that seems to affect people more outside of this country than ours. I guess Yeah, well it it does it's talking about foreign Suspects the and again, this is the same act we were just talking about the usa freedom act And the other thing it says is you can't just go collect all the metadata You have to decide who it is you're after and you collect their metadata And then this court decision says that you can also get the metadata of all the people that person called You don't have to show anything else just the fact that that person under suspicion called is enough Uh, but this is the first decision under that new act. So I would watch a television procedural Kind of csi like right called us foreign intelligence surveillance court Because I don't know what they do and I think that sounds fascinating though fisk And they'd all be very young and attractive and agent wilson fisk real go-getters man. Yeah Uh le echo showed off a working prototype of an electric self-driving car the lessee The chinese phone and tv maker has invested in faraday future and astin martin you may recall And you're like, oh, that's the ones uh le echo hopes to create a fleet of autonomous taxis With their version of the car more details to come at the beijing auto show on april 24th leko also showed off three new smartphones the le to the li to pro and the li max two None of them have headphone jacks. Uh, so they beat apple to the punch These are all gonna use usb c ports for delivering audio to your ears I still believe I believe firmly that when we get around to the w w dc or wherever this is announced for the new phone They're going to not have a usb jack or a light I am a hundred percent sure it's gonna be one of the two things either It's just gonna be there like it's always been there and it'll be much ado about nothing or It'll be some kind of trumped up Uh bluetooth like solution with two pods that sit your ears and they're wireless and that's it And if you want to get regular headphones on that they'll they'll be an adapter you can buy But I don't think there's any way that we're being to be putting headphones on our head where the other end of that headphone is a usb c jack Can't be don't be right. Just don't be right. Okay I don't want to derail this to make it a whole about a whole other issue. But I I'm oh, I just needed to come and go I need those guys to do their thing And then if it said here's it would bother me less if apple would just use a usb c port and it was like Oh, we're just getting a new connector for headphones Eventually that was gonna happen the mini jack wasn't gonna last forever. I guess Uh, and I could get myself a little more comfortable with that, but we have a perfectly good working stereo headphone jack Why do we need to mess with it? Right and and the phone doesn't have to need to be any thinner if that's your problem The phone is bloody thin. I don't need it snapped in half. Oh my gosh. That's more on that on future episodes of daily tech news show Uh google's email client inbox, which I use pretty much exclusively on mobile now. I love it I don't use it so much on desktop because I feel like it's kind of ill-suited for desktop use But it works, uh, amazingly on on mobile at least for now Anyway, uh, I can now take all emails about an event and show them together including whatever's changed. So for example I canceled my oculus rift pre-order today I did that. That's not a meeting but no No, but it's but the idea is that if I've got a string of emails that are the same and they're and it includes things Like cancellations or changes Uh, you're less caught off guard because you're gonna see all this stuff together At least you're less that that long string of emails about whether we're meeting with fred and ginger on tuesday It becomes a lot easier to make sense of exactly or you know other threaded things that aren't necessarily threaded But are associated one with another and that makes perfect sense Uh, there's also an option to share these links to inbox rather than emailing them using chrome extensions or ios or android share functions Which is currently how it works It's sort of a read it later sort of thing and finally it's easier to preview newsletters click through to particular articles And minimize when you're finished I think that's great Really, it's just an extension of what they already do with putting all the promotions in one place and putting all the social in one place And this is a little more granular, but uh sounds useful. I'm excited about it Biztech africa reports that jungla announced a new lightweight messaging app at the mobile west africa conference in legos Jungla is only 2.5 megabytes Put your head around that and it works over edge in gprs as well as faster connections The service is free claims to use less bad width than we chat fiber What's up and others and users can also chat through the web with contacts that have not installed the app So they're basically saying look we get we get it connectivity isn't great in a lot of places We're launching this so that you can chat Even where you only have that gprs connection and that other person doesn't have to install our app They can just use their browser if they want Let's test this out tom you on jungla yet. You got your jungla Uh, well, I don't live in nigeria. So all right, forget it then. Uh, I don't get that typical nigeria getting everything first The verge reports facebook sent out a verified user survey asking which method of monetizing post seems the most interesting to them I did not get this because I kind of want to answer it Anyway, the the options were listed tip jar branded content sponsor marketplace Donate option call to action button and revenue sharing So you would sort of say which one you think sounds the best Survey was part of a larger group of questions asking how participants use their personal profiles pages Now people get way over excited about surveys They send surveys out because they want to know whether people want options And there's no cost to adding options to the survey So when they put tip jar in there it could mean as the verge is intimating in this article that facebook is considering Putting a tip jar up similar to what youtube has done. Uh, and that could be interesting It doesn't mean that they do plan to do that. Uh, it just means that whoever created this survey said Should we put tip jar in there and somebody said yeah, why not? Let's see how many people are interested in it And in fact surveys are usually conducted in order to find out if something's a good idea or not So they may not have decided to do a tip jar and then suddenly everyone says Oh, we would like a tip jar and they changed their mind or vice versa They may have decided to do a tip jar if they do the survey and people like no We don't want that and then they don't do it. That's why you do the survey Yeah, internet gets weird about being asked You're asking me so you mean you're gonna do it. You're just gonna force it and like no, that's why we're asking you I think it's good. I'm glad they're asking. I'd rather have it asked than just say one day Here's your thing and there are no other ideas Like if anything this gives you a little bit of a window into their process or at the very least A little slice of that, you know, I'm fine with it and it's interesting like yeah, all right Uh, I don't if if I got the survey, which I haven't um, I don't know what I would say about tip jar I guess I'd say why not? I probably wouldn't have a problem with it. Yeah, but but I I don't know But more and more and this is either a sign of age for me or something But more and more I just I I want I want us all to remember that it's okay To ask questions to have some discussion and not have immediate internet disdain for a thing that you don't know Totally about yet. It's an interesting phenomenon though that we do often Form things as a question that we mean as an accusation Uh, so we're like well, why do you think they're tearing up the street? Right and it's like because because they want to annoy me or because it's a stupid idea, right? But you're not actually asking why it's the tone of your voice So I get why I think it's that thing where we read emails in the worst possible tone We can come up with in our heads, uh by nature and so it's like When facebook sends a survey about a tip jar we read it as though they're gonna force a tip jar on us Or maybe we're excited about it. I don't know right post on twitter that I'm excited about the new Magnificent seven movie coming out and people everywhere already hating on it like that for example. Yeah I've seen it personal tom. I've made it personal so much hate Uh, the market for surgical robots is heating up intuitive surgical incorporated makes the da Vinci system It's often used to assist in hernia repair. It could be used in a lot of different things though Intuitive shipped 110 da Vinci systems last quarter up from 99 a year ago These are expensive items though. So they're making a lot of money off that procedures using da Vinci robots rose 70 percent worldwide from a year ago Intuitive is kind of alone in the market for now, but not for long fortune notes that medtronic plc Which is funded by johnson and johnson and alphabet will enter the market soon and there are a few others Uh, so your next surgery well, hopefully you don't have to have a surgery But should you have to have a surgery you might have a robot in there with you next Uh, uh doctor who performed an appendectomy on my son a year and a half ago Suggested that he felt like in the next couple of years these sorts of surgical devices Aka this machine this robot would soon be the thing that took your appendix out And it would be less reliant on people doing it also eye surgeries and some other stuff And he seemed very bullish on that market. He's just one doctor one surgeon, but He felt like we're headed that way and sounds like maybe we are well, and it's it's the next it's a tool, right? I mean We are our imaginations immediately leap to like rosy the robot performing surgery with wearing knives and axes and and that's not What this is this is essentially just a more Automated and fancy scalpel where it's like, you know, you tell it what to do and then it does it, right? So but eventually ai we'll start doing this that's way down the road though We accept our overlords. We're ready for them. It's fun. We do. We do. Thank you overlords for being you. You're the best Uh, and also a big thanks to everybody who submits on our subreddit Submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com. You guys are the best Big thanks to steve.io captain kipper And all the folks who get in there and submit things, uh, I believe we had another one From a few other people So join us on there if you will daily tech news show dot reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines So, uh, one thing we didn't mention in the headlines today was a letter From four tech coalitions. Now these represent the big ones google facebook Apple etc. They're they're the big companies are parts of one or more of these organizations Dropboxes in there facebook's in there the four organizations are the reform government surveillance organization The computer and communications industry association. That's a lot of people are are members of that The internet infrastructure coalition and the entertainment software association She got a big bunch of game makers in there as well They sent an open letter to senators burr and feinstein and to refresh your memory if you don't recall Senators burr and feinstein have published a draft It's not even a proposal yet, but a draft of a bill Called the compliance with court orders act of 2016 Now the draft says that any product services applications or software distributed by a person Must be capable of complying with subsection a Which leads us back to subsection a Which says if a court orders a company To do so that company must provide information in an intelligible format If such data has been made unintelligible by a feature product or service owned controlled created or provided by the covered entity Or by a third party on behalf of the covered entity It has to make it intelligible Or it has to provide assistance as necessary in making the information intelligible if it can't do it on its own So there's two things going on here if I read this right one is This act if it became law Would force companies to provide assistance if the court orders them to they wouldn't be able to to say no And they would be compensated that's in the bill by the way Second and this is the part that's got people upset It says that Your data Has to be created in a way that you can comply with the act That's the any product services applications Must be capable of complying with subsection a subsection a says if data has been made unintelligible You got to make it intelligible So in a roundabout way without telling you how it says we don't know what you're going to do to do this We don't care But if a court orders you to make data intelligible that you made unintelligible or in other words encrypted You have to be able to unencrypt it you have to be able to decrypt it So the open letter to senators bern feinstein warns of unintended consequences of that bill They'd say look we want to comply with law enforcement. We want to help catch the bad guys But this would force companies to prioritize Government access over digital security which could lead to more vulnerabilities In other words your priorities are out of whack if if security isn't your number one priority at all times It can lead to unintended vulnerabilities Those could be exploited by bad actors just the fact that you've created a way to decrypt it could be exploited by bad actors Number two it makes it easy for other governments to demand the same In other words, maybe governments don't want to run a company out of their economy right now But if it becomes the law in the united states their home country to do this Then that country will say well We definitely want you to do that here too because you're already doing it And number three it would not prevent the use of strong encryption made outside the us weakening us competitiveness So in other words make it so that you can decrypt it by all the companies subject to the us law All consumer needs to do is go find some encryption software not made in the united states and bob's your uncle They've encrypted everything and you still can't get at it and people will Let me throw a couple of scenarios at you. You tell me if these are are part of this draft If I say to you, uh, well, all right government assuming this all went through I've got this. Um, I'm apple. I've got a bunch of iCloud data. Currently it's encrypted and uh Going forward. Maybe we can fix that but what about all this legacy data? And then you the bill would say what to me. Sorry, uh, it would say That you uh must provide any be any product service application or software distributed by you must be capable of complying with subsection Hey, so you're in violation of subsection a apple. All right. So then I say well, all right, fine We'll see what we can do about that. But also now we got these thumb sensors on phones and iPads and um, uh, some other people come through HTC says yeah, we got one on the back of our phone now and that's encrypted that that uh, security It's biosecurity. Uh, uh, here's here's what I as the court here blah blah blah blah blah Can you hand me over the uh data or not it says here you have to make it intelligible I don't really want to know the details. You just have to do it. That's the law So blankety is this is my problem. Of course, I ask you these things knowing the answer But I I feel like that's my biggest problem with this is this sort of We don't care how you do it It's just got to be here. It's got to fit in this nice little square peg hole here And if it's not fitting in there, then sorry, uh, you're out of compliance See you later. Like it just feels so it feels so one-sided and so we don't care how you do it Just do it that is like the worst argument in the world Levied against anything with any complexity in my opinion and I don't want to mr. Rant joe ranty rant pants, but it just feels Wrong-headed from the get-go to me And I think we've talked a lot on this show about the idea of well if you if you make something Able to be decrypted it can lead to those other vulnerabilities But the other side of this is the business case, which maybe you don't care about Maybe you're not very sympathetic to these billionaire companies and I get that But keep in mind that Let's say the european union is not a place that is going to allow this kind of law, right? So this law goes into place one risk is thailand Singapore Maybe australia A bunch of other company countries say yeah, we're going to pass the same law So you have to be able to decrypt stuff here as well But the european union says no we are very anti-surveillance here We are not going to allow that and in fact Now all of our customers in europe Won't use those businesses that are subject to that law So apple microsoft facebook all now have to and something they've already started to do just because of public sentiment But all have to put their servers in europe Because otherwise people won't use their services because they're like yeah But there's a law there says that you have to be able to decrypt it. That's not that's not fair Put your servers over here and don't forget microsoft is fighting the department of justice in the united states Over whether the government can subpoena information off a foreign server microsoft has some emails stored in ireland that the department of justice would like to look at Microsoft says you got to get ireland to sign off on that you can't just say we we want it So they're fighting that if the us wins that case suddenly just putting your servers overseas would not be enough Because the government could go after those you'd have to move your headquarters out of the united states in order to avoid this law And actually be able to provide stronger encryption. So This sounds pretty impossible and it probably is but let's say microsoft just moved out of redmond into canada and said We are not operating in the united states anymore Therefore we don't have to use this law and therefore we can provide strong encryption people in the us could go get it So what's the next step make it illegal for someone in the united states to use encryption that isn't subject to this law probably Yeah, see this is the problem. It starts. It's this top down effect. It's very trickle down It's not so simple as just we had an attack or we had a threat We need to find out about the threat microsoft. Please turn over the data I know that's kind of what they want, but this is so much more far-reaching. It's not just general competitive Competitiveness in the u.s. And elsewhere from existing companies. It's also very Squashy when it comes to somebody trying to do something new or innovate or change the way things work in positive directions Progress to be made all across and up and down that ladder is Not put on hold necessarily, but man. It's a chilling effect And why would you want to do that from a from any perspective on any side of the island any anything? Like we need it's a most precedence setting idea I've heard of in a long time and the only hope I have about the whole thing try not to be too Doomsday about it is that it's a draft right things can change Uh constituencies can speak up these associations can say their piece and they have like stuff can be done Things can be said arguments can be had and drafts can turn into something very different You and I talked before the show. Is there anything that we could talk about that was like Middle-of-the-ground solution that worked for everybody. Is there some happy medium or a bridging of the gaps? I don't know what that is. It's very hard to find it right and at the end of this letter The the four industry organizations say we are ready and willing to engage in dialogue about how to strike that balance But remain concerned about efforts to prioritize one type of security over all others In a way that leads to unintended negative consequences for the safety of our networks and our customers In other words, hey, man, it's always an arms race We will help law enforcement get better at this job What law enforcement would be better? Served by is figuring out how to crack Really strong encryption or socially engineer Passwords to really strong encryption of the bad guys Because what's going to happen to the really bad actors if this law passes is they won't use any of the services subject to this Law you're still going dark with the people you really want to get So it doesn't solve that problem. And that's where the industry could do better To help the government figure out like okay, here's here's how you actually go after these guys, right? And get the black hat hackers On your side get the gray hat I guess you're not gonna get the the true black hats But get the get the gray hat hackers on your side And the reason that that is difficult is nobody trusts each other anymore because the government has said well Yeah, we're going to use this to spy on everyone without telling you Suddenly the gray hat hackers don't want to help the government So there's a lot of fence mending and reassurances that need to happen That's where the efforts should be focused in my opinion, right? And you know, there's other things to focus on. I said this on tms today. I know it's a little reductive But I still say Feinstein burr you got other stuff going on that matters to your constituency and the industries that I depend on this encryption and depend on our relationship with them You got to just lay off this and go work on another thing. I don't know what the other thing is You got something on in your state, so that's huge. I guarantee it. So go do that Yeah, I mean any Anyone who wants to do something bad Can multiply two very large primes together and create a secret key Uh that no other company in the world has and use that to encrypt things You can't you can't make that illegal. You can't make multiplying primes illegal, right? I like and it won't work though. It won't it won't help a nice job You know you melted that all down to the i'm gonna use that anytime this subject comes up with anybody in casual conversation I'm gonna talk about the math end of it because you're right. What are they gonna do? Take my abacus and kick me on the street like what are they gonna do? No multiplication no peace All right, uh, let's get to our pick of the day from russell who noted that we were talking previously scott about sub-c cables Uh, he recommends the book tubes by andrew blum which gives a great explanation of how sub-c cables work How they're installed? It's a great look at the amazing physical infrastructure. That is the internet Uh, so yeah, if you're curious about how all this stuff actually travels around the world Uh, check it out. We'll have a link to it in the show notes as well It's called tubes by andrew blum because it's not a series of tubes. No, it's not it's well. I mean it isn't a nice It's easy to explain when you say it that way, but uh, no certainly doesn't that sounds awesome And I love the cover of that book. I think I may pick that up Send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com and you can find more picks Including this one at daily tech news show dot com slash picks A few messages of the day josh the chef from detroit I got to meet this guy when I was in detroit shooting connected tech Last year great guy, and then I happened to be just shooting in a different location the next day And he goes walking by small town detroit, you know, you just you know everybody once you've been there for an hour Uh, he says tom I'm one of the few people who took advantage of amazon's previous offer of a monthly prime membership for $7.99 a month They offered this for only a month or so about two or three years ago But so far they've allowed me to keep it if they do change it. I will gladly pay the $99 for the year But in the meantime, I'm saving a whopping 26 cents per month Which is now allocated to my monthly dTns patreon And he sent me a screenshot showing that he had added 26 cents to his his patreon support But yeah, I mean that is the deal 7.99 a month. You're actually saving money then Yeah, I'm I know I haven't been on the show since this was announced, but I'm I to just to sort of weigh in I'm all for them breaking this up into into chunks of Of monthly options versus yearly options like giving us more choice With this makes a lot of sense for them to maximize what they're trying to do with prime video more than anything else That the that this sort of tackles or or being able to get prime on its own monthly Or prime by itself with no video or whatever if they want their video projects and their Their stuff like man on the high castle level work. They want that more eyeballs They gotta like figure out ways to to make it more, uh, you know make it work for people in a way that's that's Less of a yearly commitment So I'm I'm all for this and even if that means you get one guy for two months who binges on bosh and High castle and two or three other things and then gets out that you're still getting somebody you wouldn't have gotten anyway so and um I'm not saying the amazon terms of service or a little vague on the use of play on but You know, I'm not saying that Ryan wrote in and said I work full-time as a mobile wedding entertainer My coverage area includes much of central new york state as well as northern pennsylvania In many cases during a pre event venue survey I've driven into areas where cellular service just disappeared for dozens of miles and at night in unfamiliar territory And when I run out of cached maps on the phone, there's no data connection to continue downloading So I pull out my old trusty garment out of the glove box gets me unstuck Smartphones and tablets are getting smarter all the time However at present they still seem to be jack of all trades master of none Which do things like book reading and navigation well enough for most cases But the single-purpose devices are the best at their particular task and can fill in those small benefits That you don't miss until your phone or tablet just doesn't measure up It sounds like a response or a bit of a response anyway to it is yeah the kindles And we got a lot of a lot of outside of the show feedback on that that day And it was all over the map, but it seems that there is a fair amount number of people who like single-use device At least for now Yeah, and that is always going to be true that the single-use device will be better at its task than the multi-use device Because all of the focus is on that one use which is why I think gps devices will always exist For people who need them for search and rescue or serious orienteering Things where you you don't want to rely on a multi-use device as much It's a smaller market though, and I think that was our point But marion makes it makes a great point about that and I would say desktop computers are becoming that as well Like they aren't going to go away But they you only need a desktop computer for a particular task and if you have that task then it's very important for you Yep, and desktop computers because that market may be shrinking at whatever slow rated shrinking You just may end up paying more in the long run and that's the only real downside So we may end up paying a little bit of a higher fee to have our big multifunction pro level Desktop for all the rest of the world is running around with tablets and phones Uh, do people ever call you scoot? Sometimes my brother is yeah, I don't know if marlin the guy from trinidad did this on purpose, but he wrote to tom and scoot Here is a way to play podcast in android right from the google search app worldwide If you search for the podcast such as I don't know the morning stream podcast You will see the last four to five episodes and you can hit play and start streaming plays in the background and your notification Trace you continue to use your phone as normal Scout would be glad to hear and then he said scout would be glad to hear that most of the frogman shows are there Uh, but he says no daily tech news show and it's funny Like some people are seeing daily tech news show in the google podcast A section of the google play music service and some aren't So i'm not sure why that would be I have the same problem with the instance the instance is in there for most people and a few people aren't seeing it there It's got to be some caching thing I can't figure it out to save my life the only show i've been there was the new hotline monday show That's been submitted since and should be approved anytime now But I don't know why it's showing up for some and not others like daily tech news show on my test on my android tablet Showed up no problem. Yeah this is there, but I've I've heard from others that it isn't so it's real weird I don't know what's going on with that But this is a cool thing about the the search app allowing you to like get it's it's not the same as being a podcast app Let's let's be fair, but it does give you access to it Uh on android so that's kind of a cool thing. Yeah Uh, I do wish that google would just say oh right We own feed burner if you've marked your rss feed as a podcast We will automatically include you like you'd think that would be such an easy path. I don't know I still worry about the future of feed burner. In fact the fact that it's not there's not that integration here makes me even more worried because There's like four guys who work on it. Maybe maybe that's overestimating There's like one guy who works on it and he's he's like up in the second floor It's the only one up there. They forgot they even have a second floor They forgot they own that building they've leased the bottom to another startup and he's just still plug it away at feed burner I'm up two minds. It's like google. I'm so glad you're doing this with this listing. But what took you 10 years? Hey, man, they're here now. You gotta get mad at them for being here now It's fine. Be here now. But where were you when I was growing up? It's not going to change the past We're not here to talk about the past mark mcguire My wife works for google. All right, uh, that is it for this episode of the daily tech news show. Thank you scott johnson What's been going on in the frog pants world? Oh, there's so much happening. I don't even know where to start So the easiest thing to do is just follow me on twitter at scott johnson as always and um, there's some big stuff coming up for example Uh, the early part of next month of may it's free comic book day on the seventh and every year for four years running Now there's been a tradition where I create some original artwork Based around comic books that we ship to anybody in the world absolutely for free and this year We're doing it again. It's just kind of a yearly way of saying thanks We cover postage and everything a little four by six prints made just for this event So, uh, that's going to happen again. So keep your eyes on uh, on what I got going on over there so you can sign up early and Get it before the cut off Again at scott johnson on twitter and frog pants.com. We'll surely have a link when that goes live May 7th is free comics book comic books day. 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Blah blah blah give me the data Live free or math hard's really good This one I like but yeah, I'm kind of in love with this next one I like and it's probably because I'm showing my age stop the mathness Stop that's good too Um xbox minus 359 Well, you guys are you guys are on it today good stuff. You're all good. I just really like stop the mathness If you dyed your hair platinum blonde scott, it would be perfect for this Yeah, I'll hit you the haircut over hanty pants got in there. Oh, you might like this one Tom it's uh, we're to go darmak and uh, gelada jungla Okay Yeah, you can only message in uh phrases from your culture get actually write full sentences I have my I have an entire issue with that episode, but uh, there's also Shocker you have it when the walls fell It's like really your your entire language is limited to like one story It's a long story How do you create new stories? How do you tell the shocker made a nice crepe with mushrooms and cheese, please Yeah, at some point they stopped. Yeah, they stopped and so here's the line no more stories That's our language um and it's survey says tip jar um I like a burr. It's unencrypted in here. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah That's a pretty good one from Shane. I'll vote it. I'll vote for that one too so My top two favorites are stop the mathness and burr Uh, it's unencrypted in here. Oh, you don't like live free or math hard Math hard's pretty too. It's isn't that new hamsters license plate except for the math No, it's the name diehard movie live free or die is new hamsters slogan Which live free or die hard was a play on and this is a play on the movie Which is a play on the new hamsters. Yeah, and I like it because math hard It is hard math. Yeah, and it's hard live free is yeah, you know antithetical to what? That's why I like layers man deep I like stop the mathness too though. It's really good. Stop the math Blah blah blah gave me the date. I like them all actually. I haven't heard of that one today So you can't take the math from me. Of course. I it's a sucker for a firefly reference. Good one tinvec You can't take the math from me. Well, let's see get them quantum computer thinking majiggi's online. It'll be all moot Yeah, it won't matter then. Yeah Or until they get the mind readers. That's what I'm waiting for That's that changes everything by the way mind reading. Yeah, because it's like fine. Do whatever you want I'll just like zap your brain cells and figure are your uh, we'll just hear. Yeah, we'll have your intent We'll know if you're really truly running for president or if you're a psycho We'll know it just be like that That um, are you talking about me? Oh the movie based on the uh Ah Stephen king novel Dead zone or no that dead zone the one with christopher walk-in where you can see the future That's dead zone dead zone. Yeah, they made a TV go about it, too Touch his hand What was the uh, tom you've seen the path at all on hulu. You're watching that at all No, I haven't is it good? Yeah, I've heard good things really good. The acting's Really good. It's freaky though because it's all I mean, they're not they're not They're not leaning real hard into it It's basically like What if there was a cult kind of like Scientology where everybody's convinced of this thing and it's only the rich ones This and you climb a ladder and a lot of parallels to To that but man that this the kind of getting into the way people You know the way people work when They're confronted against their like lifelong Beliefs or Facebook. Yeah, I mean that's what they're experimenting with. I think it's fascinating I really like what shows us called the path. It's got a jessie pinkman in it. In fact, it works really well Uh, uh, so erin paul is the main male star It's it's works really well as fan fiction for where did jessie go after you've gotten that car It really does like you drove off and joined the path It actually works pretty well, but michelle monahan's really good in it. Oh, I love her. She's great Yeah, it's extremely good. I think it's uh It asks a lot of hard questions and I think it might have outside of well That was last year. So we can't count it like this year's best tv intros like credit intros I'm I'm voting for that so far. I haven't seen anything. I like better pretty thing. Yeah, now check it out It's not like I need another show. Yeah, it's not Very gorgeous, but if you get around to it, it's there I wonder if I could convince schwood to watch that one Is it hour long episodes or half hour hour each Straight-up drama well made, you know Yeah, credible and it's really good. I'm surprised how much I like it Yeah, because uh We we our service level agreement on spoiler and time is one One library show one current show our current show has been better called so it's going to become game of thrones Our library show is justified. I don't really need another show, but I like that I got I can't sleep. I'll watch this Or whatever then that puts you to sleep It'll It's like the warm milk of television. I was surprised how it how it hooked me in Yeah, I mean I'm now I'm looking forward to episodes as they come out because they're only doing the weekly release thing So it's it's funny. My television watching has become Such an assigned task I don't want to call it work because I enjoy watching these shows But I like I have to keep up on these particular things That when I don't have to watch anything I Yeah, because I'm like this. I don't have to think about it. I don't have to remember anybody's name I I just have it on like videos work work television and regular and mindless television That's kind of how I am with it's video games for me. I don't I can't play a video game without thinking a lot Yeah, and I feel like I have to play All the new stuff so I can talk about it and It starts to not feel it's weird It's not really work probably like novels for you like when you guys have to dive into some new sword and laser thing Sure, sure You just start to you start to realize well, not only you have to do this You kind of want to do it but you also kind of have to do it and it changes Well, and it's it's when you're doing it to talk about later You have a different mindset because you're like, oh, I have to I have to think about what I'm going to say about it later Yeah, you can't miss a bunch and just be like oh, whatever I'll catch I think part of it is you become a much critical consumer. Yeah for that for that content It's really hard. Well, you know when you review a movie when you watch it You suddenly have to be really cognizant of well, I just can't sit back and just enjoy it Now I got to really think about what I'm seeing. Yeah in some cases. I got to take notes I got a you know, yeah Back of it video games are the worst because if you have to play through a really bad Game or just a bad part of a game. It's just like why Or a good one that's just super long and then you're behind and you haven't finished You know two or three long ones and I don't know it adds up You can get a little overwhelming It's hard work. Yeah, it's hard work hard work watching television shows to play video games It's the first podcasters problems doesn't sound isn't what it's considered difficult work I mean, there's physically difficult But the more fatiguing work is actually more mental like you feel more exhausted Then say that's what all the bourgeois say That's what all the bougie people say I could go do yard work all day and be less tired than I didn't if I did five podcasts in a day It just brings me mentally in a way that is exquisitely unique Well and and I've seen a lot of people writing about this more and more all the time But we don't have downtime built in Like we used to oh You can always have something playing in your ears You can always have something in front of your eyes Like even if you're doing yard work, you could be listening to an audiobook If you're just sitting in the doctor's office, you can be on twitter or read a book or play a video game like When you're on an airplane, you've got the internet now like it's it's real man It's like you have to plan your downtime. Yep. And that is hard for me I struggle with that If I'm that's that's what I think your sister is talking about a lot when she talks about device addiction Total absolutely she is and when and as she speaks it or she talks about some of this stuff It just brings true to me or even in case, you know, she talks about an information addiction now you know People she she'll she'll she'll stay informed, but she's not glued to some news channel She just can't she won't do it. She refused but for example as an experiment back in 9 11 She refused to I think I talked about this before she refused to look at any Images that were of the buildings exploding people falling out of the windows any of that stuff She just avoided it because she she knew it was out there. Yeah, I wasn't trying to be naive to it, but she wanted to Not let it get all up in her. Yeah, not to overwhelm It's basically choosing not to be traumatized Basically, yeah, and also let let's her focus where she can do good Which is I need to feed my kids. I need to get my go to work and get my job Then I need to get the car fixed. I need to be a decent citizen and go to this charity like She has a real interesting perspective on all that stuff and how she's my sister. I don't freaking get it because I'm the worst it's like you guys hear about the guy that jumped out of a plane and was on fire and killed three chickens On the way down. You got to see this video Like here. Let me show it to you. Right and I can't resist So yeah, she better now. I think there's a there is a there's definitely Something to the idea that you have to put your brain on a on a diet for lack of a better word and I know that sounds dumb Oh, I think that's smart But it's it's you know, it's just a fact that if you keep your brain thinking about stressing about stuff all the time Yeah It's not good for it. I agree As much as I agree still and yet I come from a culture that says if you're not doing something you're lazy exactly There's a generational thing that that our current lifestyles do not help Yeah, like we were told that you should always be I mean, I was telling him it the other day I don't remember the last time I was bored I literally decades since I was bored like bored Like I maybe in a movie I don't like but I'm not like bored in a way that you couldn't fix it Yeah, I've had moments where I'm like, wow, I don't actually have anything to do right now. Yeah, but it's not like I Couldn't find something with in a half second, right? Yeah, and even then you feel like it's weirdly guilt-ridden time. That's weird Like for example, this Pringles can this was empty yesterday Now there's three chips left Now that's kind of a problem as far as I learned that's like news and consumption I should cut down put it right over here and never touch it, right? Don't bring the Pringles into your house to begin with exactly That's why I don't watch any television news anymore because I didn't find any of it was making my understanding of things better No, in fact, it makes it it that's the whole thing. They start introducing a bundle like what is this It doesn't have to do with anything other than stretching your hour-long newscast at three hours because Both bits are had like the runs or something and you had to fill in for them You make you worry about things you didn't you would have never thought of and you don't need to and don't have anything to do with you and What's so what's so bizarre is their system so So pretty much ensures that the most banal stuff gets all the attention And all the important stuff tends to get buried by all the banal stuff Well, in the stuff that deserves attention dissected for its banal stuff The county of los angeles is now going to send out its sample ballots materials electronically if you would like Oh, that's nice. Yeah, I would like to do that Subscribe to e-sample ballot. I'll ever give us a giant booklet And so agreeing to this allows us to bulk surveillance of your intern. What? Um Cool, I had one question for you scott, but it's about schedule and Next week is tom's gone right 27th. Yeah on wednesday. I'm out. No problem. Correct Who do we have guesting? I forget jen cutter. Okay, she'll be in Um, she's canadian. She's into hockey and gaming. All right. Yep. Yes great She's a friend of uh Darren and mine And I think she uh also in june June June June we're swapping you on the week of the 7th. So instead of doing that Wednesday I'm out of the post and I don't know that people are maybe they're fascinated by this I don't know. It's not like a big deal, but I'm gonna just stop the broadcast. So just wanted to say goodbye Sorry to interrupt. See y'all