 Wednesday happy wiki tree challenge Wednesday. That should just be the name of Wednesdays now wiki tree challenge Wednesday How is everyone doing? We're all so excited for today We have our wrap-up for Sherry. We're gonna share a whole bunch of good stuff for her And I hope you're all excited to watch with us This has been a long week Probably the longest week of your life, maybe A lot of emails merge this person and do this and do that I'm like, oh people are working on things So before we get started we'll introduce everybody who is in the stream right now so Myself Sarah and then Julie who's in the corner. We're both wiki tree team members Uh, and then right next to me. We have Sherry who is our genealogy guest star of the week Next to Sherry. We have Mindy who is our overall wiki tree challenge coordinator And then we have Karen who is Sherry's team captain And then a one might pop in a little bit later She had an unforeseen visit surprise visit But we might she might pop in so That's that's who we are and for those of you who maybe are just Popping in because you saw it on twitter or facebook or maybe sherry mentioned to you and you have no idea what wiki tree is Julie will let us all know what wiki tree is and what we're about Wiki tree is well aside from where I spend most of my time It is a community. It's a community of genealogists and we all work together on a single family tree So unlike other sites where you go and you build your tree over here and I go and I build my tree over here Even if we have a common ancestor, we never talk to each other So on wiki tree since we're a single tree when we get to that common ancestor We not only talk to each other, but we can work together to share information and make it the best best profile that we can um We collaborate we grow an accurate single family tree and it connects all of us Which is a lot of fun and the best part Probably the best part. I don't know. Do you guys think that's the best part? It's free I think the best part is the community and the I 100% have free I think the free in the community you're kind of like No Because I think we wouldn't have the community without the free. I think right right like it's together So that is wiki tree It's great What is wiki tree? I'm like, I just told you I don't I'm still really not kidding So So that is wiki tree now we have our wiki tree challenge Which is our year-long event where each week we take on Where a team of wiki tree years takes on a genealogy guest star's tree It makes them more accurate and complete that is anywhere else For instance right now. We're working on sherry's tree. We usually have another guest star, but next week We have our special cleanathon, which we might talk about a little bit later But each for the most part each week we take on different genealogy guest star And this challenge is part of our year of accuracy and our goal is to improve our accuracy on wiki tree Make more connections and more friends. So that is wiki tree and the wiki tree challenge And if anybody has any questions throughout the chat about the challenge or for sherry for anybody just post in the chat and we'll answer it so And then Mindy will talk about our The how the points work and collaboration and all that good stuff I am here. I need to slide that sherry Let's go there we go And one of the one of the big things that we need with this type of a collaboration is Is we do need to keep track of which profile we're working on Now we have anywhere from 20 to 40 or 50 genealogy just just depending all volunteers On you know, how many people we have available that week? So when we're working on a profile We want to put that profile down after our name so that we two other people don't come in and start working on it Realize not realizing And then the other one of the other forms of communication we have is what you see on the right Now in the g2g we have a post every week. This is sherry's Where we go in and we put if we found a brick wall if we found something Interesting and we maybe just had a question That we post it in there and this is also shared with a guest after their week is up And this would be the biggest one discords are our live chat So this is what we have going on all throughout the week and being such a global community We have people from all over so there's always somebody in there talking You know and you can do anything from saying, you know help look at this record. I want to make sure it's right I need a second set of eyes, you know to um. Oh, I added a bunch of sources Does anybody want to write a narrative for it? I'm not good at the biographies Translations a little maybe just even cheering somebody on we use discord for a little everything so And we have our points And top contributors Now there's two different ways to get points during the challenge and that's not the only reason that we do the challenge But it always a little bit of you know Competition gets people going and keeps them motivated always helps a little bit So we have the big points which are the bounty points If you find a new parent and can prove it you get 10 points for each direct Ancestors nuclear family so only their siblings children's spouse You get one point automatically and those actually add up quite a bit some weeks just depending on how big the families are Our top five for this week. We're elizabeth finie Alice Thompson Lucy salvage odias maddie hardman and donna bowman With elizabeth finie, of course being our mbp. So she was our most valuable player. She had the highest amount of points this week And we'll take a brief look at all of the points we achieved this week And this was a little bit hard because you know, we're we're not just going for the brick walls We are going for accuracy and we found on our end with this We had a lot of things that we needed to fix So we actually had some people that maybe weren't on your tree But they were on the wiki tree branches and we needed to Get a couple of sets eyes on some of those and work them out So now what you see are created ancestors. There were a total of 76 direct Ancestors and their relatives so 13 of those were actually direct like a great grandparent third great grandparent the other 63 were those nuclear family members I was talking about and Bounty points there were 50 this week. So five brick walls. Congratulations to the people that did that And then edited this sharia is where we count How many profiles are edited just to let people know, you know When you're making do a fixing mistakes and doing corrections, maybe your other points aren't as high But this shows that they're still working really hard. So we had 715 unique profiles worked on During this one week And then during that time the total edits are every time you go in you add a source you fix a date You do something to the profile. That's an edit. That's what we at wiki tree call a contribution There were 2347 edits That counted during the week on top of that any additional we work work that we did For space pages or you know making sure the categories are right. None of that actually even counted But it was done because it improves the profiles And now on this this page to you know, a lot of people didn't actually accrue points for a lot of people did contribute in other ways To improve your tree. They probably edited existing profiles to improve them at its sources They made a free space page a whole bunch of different stuff. So like mendy was saying it's not just about the points We're looking for quality not quantity so We'll dive right in when Karen can probably take the take the way take the lead You know this smith family is one that we just saw this afternoon researchers, uh working on Collateral relatives, you know working on cousins of the smith saying Okay, I've merged, you know proposed two merges found that these folks are duplicate found the correct parents for this person and that was all on cousin lines, but One of our researchers pointed out this gravestone which which you've probably already seen but was just really charmed by this epitaph here that That that was carved into the stone yet tears are left in long regrets unceasing shall their tribute pay As soon the heart to throb forget as thy remembrance pass away Just a lovely sentiment Jumping on to um, of course your your paternal line the Hudson's Here is where I saw some very deliberate very considered research Where changes were not made to the tree so bounty points weren't Given out But you're very much invited to come collaborating on the Hudson's because we're seeing Some strong evidence that we've got Two Joaquin sons in the family that are actually the same person and that we don't think either of them Died in 1817 that that death date belongs to yet another Joaquin Who folks have said was uh his estate was sued by his children But when you read the court records, nope, it was his siblings that brought the suit against the widow So, uh, I hope you'll take a look at these earlier Hudson Generations with from hall to Joaquin and down here to Jacob and uh, think about alternate theories for For the parents and and take a look at the sources that are on that profile there Is that where we there's a lot of opportunity to come and look and say Maybe You know no great changes to the family, but just certain generations This person's not the father. They're actually young color Exactly Yeah and The Friarsons is definitely where we we saw some downies. We saw this couple William Harrison and Mary whose name might be epps Between ancestry and wiki tree. We saw them on four different lines Where William's son John married a king and Agnes Bradley and James married a Davis and then John married a Smith And I know at least one of these was disconnected and there was a big flurry of intense research On the Friarsons this week to try to Sort this out where we teamed You know long-time members with with newer members who are just going like gangbusters and the probate records Really helped them to sort this out, but there's there's more work that could be done Yeah, you know and sometimes you see I mean, uh, you know, you'll see like two brothers that marry into a family And marry two sisters or something a lot that that's common And fine, you know, and we all have some pedigree collapse But it was kind of frightening when we looked at first Because the mistakes were more on our end, you know, just that and it turns out it was just each were different children You know his daughter Agnes his son John and they each married into the king family, you know different families So it wasn't even like it was just one family marrying another But yeah, they they um caron was great about making sure somebody stayed several somebody stayed on that and research thoroughly And I said, you know, I popped in and took a look myself and then I flitted a lot from line to line and just checking up with what people were doing and I just backed away from the Friarsons That's gonna take some considered Yeah research, you know that seems like it's They're four of them. So like for Kate like the pedigree collapse. So they're in four different locations on the on the tree And this was a fun, uh bounty to award our first, I think where, uh birth and baptism records from England gained us, uh parents for Susanna Bonner, uh William, uh, her father was a master bookbinder a bookseller and a stationer. So very much involved print and paper and books uh, and he and uh, Susanna's mother had eight Children that are now all on wiki tree. Uh, and and so here's a new eighth great grandfather for you Thanks Yeah Right Do we find any kind of like since he was a bookbinder or just a mention of a book binding? Not really anything that he Yeah, and we were talking what um early 1700s So for something made of a cure it's to still be with us would be it's true I'm just wondering if they mentioned anything about any of the books that he bookbinded We'll have to go read the profile and find out eligible Oh We added many, uh collateral relatives on this early line, uh including Uh, Jubal's first wife, Bessie Medlin, who uh, we found that Bessie had, uh had Some autosomal dna connections with our members and that there's a y dna tester from the medlin line Who's a wiki tree member? That's always fun when when you get a y line that that you aren't close to, you know, but you just Someone else Yeah, and then um the martins on this family Have is that on our are the martins the next slide? Let's see. Yeah. Um, nope There are some research notes on William Martin in this line, uh with some leads to possible parents for him, but uh You know that's always, uh challenge when when someone else has uh claimed the parents and our researchers are trying to you know be accurate and And say well, here's a lead, but we're not quite ready to to put it on the tree just yet And in the uh Robert's line, there were so many, um Phillips in the Like that name one is the patriot, right? Um, yeah DAR patriot. Yes, right Yeah, and lived till 91. That's amazing. Wow Yeah, he actually he actually died in the county that I live in right now I was like, wait a minute. I was looking at those notes earlier. I went wait a minute. That's that's where I am Oh, that's great. Oh, my family's from southeast kentucky Neat So here comes oh, gosh. Yeah, I know what happened to birchland. So birchland Campbell price was the one who Sherry mentioned last week. She said that that um, he just He took the uh had the $500 that his wife had saved and he was heading out to buy the property That they had planned and that was the last he was heard of Yes, um, and in fact like on the next page, I think we have the news clipping that It was a full what 10 years later after his disappearance that the courts decided We're gonna go ahead and um declare him dead. Uh that That the insurance policies can pay out That he's you know, clearly gone and that his will Needs to have the benefit of that life insurance. She really needed that money. Yeah I believe it to be without his income and to be a widow for that line. That's crazy I'd be my dog says hello Yeah And But We found this wasn't the end of the story Uh at all that That in fact, what have we got coming up on the next page that That who working through your dna, you know, sherry decided to um share Um the viewing of uh the dna matches of herself and her parents with emma are Resident dna expert and she found a half third cousin match who just Did also from Bertrand Campbell price But not a south carolina child A georgia Yes And that that just as um in 1932 when when he was finally declared dead in south carolina He was Nursing his fourth Child in georgia And you know, he he changed the spelling on his name, but he he kept the same occupation So once he got to georgia his occupation was the same as it had been Right More like bertrand, but you have to wonder did he change it or or um, you know, how much how much Writing of his name did he do? Uh, and south carolina. He was known as cam or camble. Yeah, he's camble a lot So he wasn't really camble anymore. He was really more of bert Yeah, there was a whole bunch of research on those So it's like he did he didn't create a new identity. He just um tweaked it He just Yeah And you could back then you couldn't you really could You should do that now, but back then Wow Oh, and that's right on that first census where he's in with daniel In 1870, uh, he's he's very much a bertrand there too. So maybe it's really more about Um, the cam camble versus bird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and so he and um, suzie emma suzie wells um Got together a much younger, um Gal and and had four more in And it's actually john's descendant. Who is the uh, the half third cousin? Wow That's exciting Mom's grandfather and she's watching this so mom Lived until 1946 sherry Wow four years after he walked away from south carolina Wow I I just wonder like if Like maybe if he told emma at some point or like if anybody in the I don't know like this what happened like Yeah, you could see that it would be easier it much easier socially to stay a widow, you know, even if We're informed That um, you had been left. Um, I mean that would have been a problem for insurance money for sure. Yeah Yeah On the way to the real to our lucy I mean I can't imagine that he knew suzie when he made his choice, you know I don't know right Thank you so much Yeah, so I'm you know, those cousins are are there, you know, I know that um, chris and other members That emma built out a big um family group, right that that um Was there a marriage? I mean, I'll tell you that the migraine parents certainly cross state lines to marriage It was quite common in in my tennessee family to just go to the next county and get married and not bother with the expense of a legal divorce right um So so who knows now chris is uh is is building a storyline for you but I mean the excitement of of the cousins, you know, and and uh and comparing notes on the on the two families of mr price Right Right and uh, you know way back in the line at people um Just finding, you know finding the birth certificate between vula and virtue. I'm just uh, just Prove out the price family and finding um, daniel price like, um, the 1870 census finding them together but going all the way back to Uh edmund, you know, he was a sergeant in the in the militia There during the war of 1812 um Like, you know, we have such a long military history In the family with folks serving in the revolution in 1812 of course in the civil war and Into the 20th century and beyond i'm here Yeah All the the children found in the um dory mathis couple there were um, you know, these are barbric walls, right? We have um um Two mathis grandmothers on on this part of the tree martha and marina and uh, um Possible parents were found for martha and some sources were added to her profile. Um, but again just um Not I saw a lot like different approaches with the two mathis women sometimes we think okay We've got these sources for martha. We've got some possible parents But we're not quite ready to attach them. Those are like me the glass half empty researchers And we have full researchers, you know on on marina. We'll go no, I think we know um These parents are but but then uh, you know, the rest of us pessimists going well I think we need to find some more sources to support Relationship we didn't find anything to support William's parents, um being alexander dory and sarah welden. So we did not make that connection Yeah, I guess we'll take the the um There's people that said well, they live next door to each other Right, right, we'd like to see a little bit more maker and it's hard because particularly in the south I find that it's just hard that the vital records You know Too far for autosomal dna and So we can we just have to put it out the theories that we have and and that's what I love about that The our free biography space that you can just You know put all the different theories and it's so it just narrates right on the tree The state of the research Yeah, thank you. Mm-hmm when we um We're looking at the mcmanus line. We we're looking at uh Charles the fourth great grandfather. Uh, he also a the revolutionary patriot from, uh, carolinas And and had uh 16 children married twice seven with rebecca and nine with sarah Wow So lots of mcmanus is out there. Yeah, he was a loving man But here you say mcmanus Oh, thank you mcmanus. Yeah, just just thought I'd tell you Oh, no, I'm glad you did because I I don't I'm not familiar with the family name really at all Yeah, thanks, you know, like you said we looked at that. Um military legacy um Uh, we we didn't go earlier than the revolution that was that's plain early enough for us to find soldiers records But taking that all the way into the 20th century. I know when we asked you how'd you get started in genealogy? You said well, you asked why is it grandma and frank instead of grandma and grandpa and and uh, um, you learned that frank sullivan was was um, you know, not not, um, mom's dad, but but mom's uh stepfather and uh And you learned that uh, oh tell me about your uh, grandmother's name. Um her first My grandmother's name is azalee Azalee, thank you because I I only want me to dorky. That's a name, isn't it? Yeah, it's lovely, uh And and so of course she was married first to gilbert and so we were looking at the world war two history on, um the next slide and how um On the next slide and Sorry Oh, there's the other children on the next next slide And then and then And then if sarah will go to the civil war slide or We just noticed and noted like you said that it was three roberts brothers that were lost And really all in 43 44 this was unfolding. I can't imagine You know being your your great great grandparents Or your great grandparents I mean the roberts then that that we had, you know a marine in, um uh Go m. I. A. and in sicily and Oh, no, he was he was national guardsman and uh with the south carolina Um Guard that was federalized into the army, you know, and then and then gilbert himself your grandfather killed the pacific and and uh wilbert his brother Um dying in hospital and looking I was just looking at his hospital records today And it was just that like half of 1944 he had only served Like he was only like his fourth quarter of service when he was in for um artillery fragments in may and then again and then again I've not seen his that record. Oh, yeah, they're on ancestry. Um, I just haven't seen them. What I saw was that Wilbert went into hospital in may of 44 and he Had served either 9 10 or 11 months. So he was coming up on his first anniversary The army when he had um shell fragments in his shoulder Um, and then he was back in the hospital in june and then died in hospital in The first of october. So he was the the third roberts and then um, Of course on the hudson side. I didn't find um the units that you know, your family probably knows better Where? He actually was a cook. He actually served as a cook. Oh that makes sense with his uh his specialty in butchering and and I loved how it said he was a meat cutter and and counselor for So when you wanted to know where you should you should be spending your frugal, um Talk to Ben and he'll set you set you straight Nobody rose to a staff sergeant. I saw which Was really something. Yeah Um So so quite uh a legacy Um and taking stories of course on the hudson side and the roberts side and then we saw uh and looked at you know, at least 10 um patriots It just joined the dar myself this year and on the easiest one But as far as the other nine, we'll see you know, uh Yeah, so so we enjoyed so many of us Were new to research in the carolinas and that was fun to see folks um from england just diving in and um and learning about uh Uh the research, you know and the records available there and how much the probate records really helped folks with brick walls and and putting the families together um And we might have to back up to the pictures because I don't think I know jim parsons and frank is positing that That ben might look a bit like Jim parsons, so we'll have to Uh, we'll have to compare See what we think but uh tell let uh, who wants to tell us about this final brick wall chart. I know I need to I will And when we start out, um All of those yellow spaces that you see are your available Uh brick wall ancestors So some of them are pretty close in some of them are you have your line done extensively in some places They're way out there You know, we always look at our branches on our tree in little sections And when you look at something like this, you can really see where the areas are that you're stuck You're really stuck And we did see that for as many hours as we put in researching this week There were some of them we hope to get through and we just couldn't knock them down Now what was different on your uh branches? Then what we've had with the other guests is once again, we had those areas that people had established You know and and we see it it happens wiki tree has evolved but people that uploaded jetcoms in 2013 2014 And we're like, oh we found this ancestor of sherry's we can just connect it to the tree It's already there and then you look at it and you're like, oh great now. I got to fix the five errors on it so start researching And yeah, so all of the like orangy spaces which are hard to see but you're gonna get a copy of this So you can look at it up close Those are profiles that were already on wiki tree But nobody got any points for anything until they took the time to stop and verify those people because we wanted to make sure That they were correct, you know, which is fine. Once again, it's our year of accuracy So we wanted everything to be accurate Yes, and then there were a few a few brick walls broken um a couple of them way out there, so So that was fun And I believe that is all of our Great, thank you so so much I'm so excited to dive in and and look at all the pages and see, you know What's been done and any hints can go forward and now just to find time to do my own tree would be Yeah, I know right we never work on our own trees You know and you already know this but one of the things that we learned as researchers I know I'm one of um, I haven't really researched in north carolina or south carolina until And I've had research in georgia Yeah They're extensive those wills those probate records saved us They're just amazing everybody gets a will it doesn't matter if you own a goat. That's it. You get a will I love to go to my two. Yeah nephews But the vital records are missing, you know, and I know a lot of that happened during the civil war A lot of the church records are missing too for the same court a lot of courthouse records For the same and that yeah, and that's what I saw is, you know, as you had burn counties Um, we have some of those here in kentucky, but it just seemed like where your family was there was a lot of them There were no vital records. So yeah, you know, if it weren't for something where we could find a mention of a marriage Or once again those probate records were just amazing My family doesn't leave wills. They tell my ancestors didn't write wills little branches of them But not most of them. Uh, love that love the north and south carolina wills those were great Well, I don't know how to thank you guys enough i'm just Just You got your mystery solved you get some new ancestors Oh, I'm wondering I'm wondering how other people in the line are going to feel about They have a record that says, you know, she testified that he went to buy land and Well, that's what she knew Exactly went to her experience Is that yeah So one good thing about that record though is it does tell who wasn't the father because there's been Two people claimed as as cams father And she said he went to see his uncle and so that you know crosses out one of those guys So But yeah, oh my goodness And somebody had mentioned the the irony of it, you know that he was running away from his wife and his kids Because that's what he was supposed to be doing was buying this home And then he just turned around and had well either a wife or a significant other And more kids in a home, so And you just you just feel so bad about the wife and the kids left at home wondering, you know What happened stories are going around. Oh, you know what there was a bad storm for this by a Hurricane around that time and there were people that were never identified. Maybe Yeah Or somebody sent her somebody sent her a letter. I mean, I've never seen it But I've heard that somebody sent her a letter about a train crash in georgia Oh, wow, they thought maybe he had died in but she said, oh This description really didn't match Right, isn't it interesting Maybe they were trying to drop a hint Maybe Oh Yeah, and and then what do we you know, where do you go from here, you know with Cousins who of course had a had a completely different experience And and knew him as their loving father and grandfather and great grandfather and are still I'm sure they have photos Oh And hopefully, you know, hopefully they're really receptive to that As far as you know, just communicating I I have one of those on my branches and he married three times and they didn't Another one of those too. So yeah And it the living cousins of the third wife aren't receptive to his best history. So unfortunately You know, I think we all have skeletons in our tree and you just got a little call out and embrace them Exactly, and if they didn't ever do anything like this, we would never find records and Maybe that's where the pictures of him will come from and you know, when you get into the 30s and 40s when when uh cameras became more accessible Families and and you had snapshots Right and it's too bad that Nobody that remembers seeing him is still alive that they could say oh my gosh That's him Right, but maybe the family resemblances you remember me enough Right. We have new guys cousins and and some good Mysteries and and things to consider on the Hudson line and Firesons to sort and you know Whenever you're ready for for a break with your own tree You've certainly got a a huge boost the huge jumps on so many different lines. Thanks. We got them together Thank you. Thank you. Oh This is fabulous. I'm so excited Everything I can't thank you doesn't even seem enough. It just doesn't even I think everybody that participated really just appreciate seeing your enthusiasm Well, if you know run out of gas the need to repeat Yeah No, just seeing all the flurry of activity Today and and folks saying all right. Well I guess it's time for the week to wind down, but it's so hard to Put the families away. So I'm so glad we have folks collaborating and interested who you know who would love to pick up the conversation Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for the invitation and thanks for this Yeah, we appreciate you letting us work on your tree sherry I know we had a great time And it's it's a short week a short week But also a long week because you know, we do get a lot done But then it just goes by so fast. It was long for you probably waiting I tell you everybody Sisters Yeah, I just do did we have any questions or comments from the chat for sherry or any of us before we Probably depart for the evening. I think they're all talking about their their own stories like Like I Maybe a follow-up week with sherry near the end of the year Maybe a good idea to see how much more can still be added after sherry has a chance to review it all Like a where are they now? Where are they now? Recap see see what rabbit holes wiki tree years have gone down since the week of the I guess because I'm sure people have been working on the trees that they got attached to So Well, and I think it was ben molsworth was saying early on in this evening That it would be really terrific for us to see the connections between all of our guests Yeah, especially since we've built their trees out so far. It would be really great to kind of put Or you know a little later in the year. We'll put something together and see how everybody's connected I wonder if there's someone in the chat who is a fourth cousin of Sherry's I'm trying to remember if who that was No, sherry is sherry said her mom was watching So With that, you know, so we don't have another genealogy guest star coming We don't we're not kicking off anything because we have our annual cleanathon that's this weekend So while we're not so we don't we're not doing two things at once But it's still focused on our year of accuracy our cleanathon And you is it is the registration still open or did it close? Is it closed today? It closes at midnight eastern time tonight So if you want to register for the cleanathon, it's where we basically find different error suggestions in our tree and clean them up You know making it more accurate So that's this weekend 72 hours of non-stop fun. We have livecast every four hours julie a1 and i will not get any sleep Nope and um Fabulous I believe sue is related to paul No Fun and that right and uh, well paul is very closely related to carol ann legally, um, but but uh paul is um, his wife is the hudson cousin. Um, and and he's the one who has been looking at, uh, Joaquin and james and how they all fit together Yeah, yeah, because there's a lot of them with those names. So I know that that's a big hodgepodge of People just deciding which one was him and then jumping back to the next line. So And you know honestly sometimes it's good to have a theory up there so people can come along and say This is wrong and this is why That's what karen was saying about the biography able to have the research knows and putting the theory So then somebody else can come and see what we've done And then maybe they have something maybe they have some kind of special book where it's something All right Maybe they have a photo or something. I don't know Then they come in cousin bait Cousin bait, absolutely. It's all cousin bait. That's right. You are right So I mean this week was great. We I think we solved a pretty great mystery I was So Very cool We will unless there's any last remarks comments, we will wrap up. Thank you sherry so much Thank you karen for being the captain Thank you mendy and julian awin and I guess thank you myself and thank you Thank you Thank you me. Thank you Thank you everybody who's watching to all our wonderful wiki tree volunteers who were working on the tree And we look forward to seeing you over the weekend and next week where we'll kick off our next guest connie Nox, I believe correct She's fabulous. We will see you then. Goodbye everybody. Have a great