 But after those four facets, he goes into the experience section. How do you craft your resume? How do you gain your own experience when you don't even have any so that you can leverage it into getting a position? What's happening guys? It's Shane here. And in today's video, I am very excited to interview Christopher. Chris was able to get into digital marketing in a very short amount of time. He actually started trying to become a digital marketer when he was 16. Then he got a job where he was basically working at a fast food chain. And then he was able to get into digital marketing very quickly once he focused on it and actually tried to learn the skills and get a job. So he was able to secure a job as a digital marketer at a very young age. And I think this is gonna be extremely helpful for anybody who's thinking about possibly skipping college. So you're definitely gonna wanna watch this one all the way to the end. I think it's gonna help a lot of people out. And before we get into it, let's go ahead and gently tap that like button, hit the subscribe button, ring the notification bell and comment down below any thoughts, comments, criticisms, et cetera. And let's jump right into it. What's happening guys? Welcome back to the channel. Today I am gonna be interviewing somebody who recently got their first job in digital marketing. And I really appreciate them coming on the channel because they're gonna share their story and how they got into it. So thank you so much, Chris, for coming on the channel today. Of course, glad to be here. Awesome. So let's go ahead and start off at the beginning of the story. So basically we'll start off like maybe just a little bit before you discovered even maybe even what digital marketing was. Can you kind of take me back in time and tell me what you were doing professionally speaking or if you wanna give me any other details, feel free to as well before you discovered digital marketing. Yeah. So I leave I discovered digital marketing sometime when I was in either sophomore or junior year, I was reading a bunch of self-help books and I came across a couple of YouTube channels, specifically one called improvement pill. And in that one, they were talking about some career in digital marketing where you don't have to go to college. And that appealed to me because I was going to a school that was pretty, pretty heavy on the whole you should go to college kind of thing. And so I looked into it more and I decided, well, you know, I'm not gonna do this. And then time passed and then I came back to it and it really appealed to me because, well, first of all, I did not like writing essays, but most of all I didn't really want to be a lawyer which is what the school was pushing me to do. And I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life. And so this seemed like a career that could make me choose the path I wanted to go down. And so time passed and I believe in the summer of junior year for me, I actually bought and took the course and tried to follow as many of the steps as possible. And then I got to a part where because of my mindset at the time, I didn't want to follow all of the steps. I wanted to take shortcuts. You could probably see where this is going. But because I wanted to take shortcuts and at the time the course was on, I believe a monthly pay subscription, I just got out of the course. But still the idea of digital marketing was still on my mind. So time passed and even though I wasn't in the course I still wanted to pursue that path but I didn't want to follow the steps. So I took other digital marketing courses. My very first mistake and I'll, I get right to the meat of it. They don't even slightly compare to Seth's course. Like Seth, he gives all the information you need to really buckle yourself up and just get experience and get the job. But these other courses, it seems like they promise something and then there are so many holes that aren't filled. And it's kind of confusing to figure out what to do next and actually land a job. Because he covers a lot like the resume and how to research things you don't know and pretty much fundamentals. Yeah, and so also believe when I took the course again after all that time passed. This time, the second time I took it I bought it with my own money because I was working at Wendy's. And let me tell you, the way you get treated when you're in a digital marketing job and the way you get treated when you're at one of these customer service jobs world of difference, let me tell you. And so yeah, I saved up money from the Wendy's bought it again and this time I had the wherewithal and the determination to just follow all of the steps even the ones I don't really want to. And unsurprisingly, this time within two months of joining the course again, I landed a job. The first time and I kind of stuck with her for a month and then I came out and then in between I got internships but was kind of like not really following the course. This time, two months, got a job, it was amazing. Awesome, so a lot to unpack there. I actually have a few kind of comments on that. One thing I wanted to say was, yeah, very common story of people kind of having like going through that experience of having kind of like kind of one of those jobs that's not the best thing but the silver lining to that because I've done that too. I've had like customer service type jobs. I think the silver lining to that is you understand what a bad job looks like. So when you actually have a good job, you appreciate it, right? So that's kind of one of the good parts about having a bad job. And I almost feel like everyone should have at least one bad job even if it's just for a month so they kind of appreciate having a good job, right? But another thing I wanted to ask really quickly is how old were you kind of during this timeframe that you're talking about? I believe, if I'm not misremembering, I believe when I first took the course, I was either 16 or 17. And then when I took it again, I believe I was 19. Got it. Okay. And when you said you were a junior, I actually thought you were a junior in college. I didn't realize you're a junior in high school. That is amazing. So you actually started taking the course while you were still in high school. I mean, that shows a lot of like, you're very proactive. That's really impressive. Yeah. I had a lot of things to learn, but it happened. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So you discover the course. One thing I will say about the course is, I haven't taken it myself because it takes a while. I might actually end up taking it because I'm genuinely interested in digital marketing. But it does have a very active Facebook group. And that's one thing I have bought a ton of courses over the years. And one thing I noticed is a lot of the time their Facebook group is just dead or their Discord or whatever like that. But the Facebook group is extremely active. People posting every single day, people helping each other out, et cetera. So I don't know if you experienced that back when you took it, but can you maybe comment on that a little bit? Yeah. So for me personally, I didn't engage too much with the Facebook until after I got a position. Mostly I, there's like a forum section that's mentioned at the end of Seth's course, extremely helpful by the way, where if you have any small questions about like your resume or this specific step, either Seth or one of his alumni will help you with whatever you're doing. And specifically, I was working on a Google Sheet assignment for like a sample PPC accounts spreadsheet. And I was doing my own sample SEO audit. And I remember Seth referred me to two alumni and the amount of like supports and compassion these people have, it was like almost shocking to experience. Like they're so helpful and understand what it's like to see this thing and it looks possible, but it seems so far away, but they achieved it and now they're helping you do it. It's just great. Got it. So the whole experience of going through the course, you kind of commented on that a little bit, but I know that Seth did recently update the course as well, which is awesome by the way. Digital marketing is something that changes all the time. It's like a video game, the meta changes as they say. And so, Seth updates the course as things change, which is awesome. And could you kind of just maybe describe like the contents of the course itself just kind of a 30,000 foot overview of what that's like? Yeah. So when I first took the course, this section did not exist at all, but the second time I took the course, I found it very helpful. It's the mindset section where he goes over like how you should approach and think about this whole process of learning digital marketing. And then afterwards he goes over like all of the four main facets of digital marketing, PPC, SEO, email marketing. And there's another part that I cannot remember magically. Paydads, probably Paydads. Social. PPC, SEO, email. Yeah. I lost my train of thought, but after those four facets, he goes into the experience section. How do you craft your resume? How do you gain your own experience and you don't even have any so that you can leverage it into getting a position? And if Emery serves after he goes over the main facets and he teaches you that and teaches you how to gain your own experience and craft your resume, there at the very end, there's an alumni section where the alumni make small videos that teach you how you should approach things going forward. Kind of like the mindset section, but instead of Seth saying things, it's people that already got a position and are coming back to give some guidance. And I also believe somewhere near that ending section, there's like, do you want a remote position? Do you want to do freelance? And things like that. Got it. All right. So let's get into some of the meat and potatoes is what people really want to hear. So you kind of started it off when you were 16, you picked back up when you were around 18 or 19. And once you picked back up on the course, it took you, I think you said it took you two months to land a job, is that correct? Yeah, it took two months. I was at the Wendy's for six months and then the last two months I got the job. No, I got the course and then within those two months of having the course, I got the job. Got it. So two months, that's not too bad, definitely. That's especially considering like you're very young and you didn't have any experience before that in digital marketing, that's pretty, I'd say that's like really solid. Like a lot of boot camps out there, for instance, it takes like six to 18 months to get you a job. So two months is that's really good. And I think that is a testament to, Seth teaches you just what you need to know to get an entry level job. And a lot of the courses out there that I've seen, not just with digital marketing, but with just things in general and specifically teaching you the skill set that you would need to get a job, the huge mistake that they all make, and I just can't believe they all do this, is they try to teach you everything. And if you try to teach somebody everything, they'll end up learning nothing, right? What courses should always do is teach you exactly what you need to know to land your first entry level job. Because I got my PharmD, I'm a pharmacist, for instance, but I'm telling everybody, I learned 80% of what I needed to know by working, even as a pharmacist, that was my original profession. Even in the medical field, where you absolutely have to go to school, you still learn 80% of what you need to know on the job. And so the big goal for everybody should be to just get work experience as fast as you possibly can. And that's what Seth's course focus is on, and that's why he gets phenomenal results. That's why he has thousands and thousands of testimonials, it seems, on his Instagram. And these are all people that you can just look up on LinkedIn and ask them questions, which is exactly what I did when I was looking into the course and everybody's really happy with it. And by the way, I should mention this before I forget it, Seth does have a free masterclass, you can check that out. If you're interested in digital marketing, you wanna see if it's right for you. You go through his free masterclass, he's gonna let you know kind of like who's really good fit for digital marketing and lots of different information on the career of digital marketing as well as the different subspecialties, et cetera. So check that out down below. I'll put it in the description as well as the pinned comment. Now with that being said, let's get to the really good part here. This is what everybody wants to know. How much can you expect to make starting off as a digital marketer in your first job? It differs from state to state in America, but generally speaking, your first job, it's 50K. Somewhere in between, maybe 40, maybe 60, some places go a little lower, like 35K at the very, very lowest, and that's relatively rare. But generally speaking, especially nowadays where it's in demand, 50K, that's the general ballpark. Okay, awesome. And can you maybe speak on like after you've gotten your first entry-level job, maybe you've got like a year of experience or so, and then you either get a promotion at that job or you move on to another job, can you kind of speak on maybe what the ballpark estimate for what they would be making is? Yeah, so what I've heard, I personally, I can't speak from experience yet, but what I've heard is once you have your first job, you should expect at least a 10K jump. Generally speaking, it's 15 or something from 10 to 20K on your second job. All right, so Chris, is there anything you want to either clarify or add? Do you think is there something that might be helpful for people to know at the very end of this interview? Yeah, at least for me specifically, it might sound like things just miraculously happened where I took this course and then time passed and I got a job. But for me, I hesitate to say that that would be possible unless I started doing what I did at 16 when I found out about the course, I started to meditate and I feel that gave me the mental means and the wherewithal to grind and learn these skills, get the job at Wendy's and surf it out without prematurely quitting. And it just, it made me a certain way that made it possible to do all of these things and make it all happen smoothly. Got it, okay, yeah. That's a great point to mention. Like, Seth made a phenomenal course. He's got a phenomenal community, great network. And if you go through the steps and you put the work in, there's a very, very good chance that you're gonna have success and get a job. But at the same time, you've got to put the work in. You got to actually learn that skillset that is extremely valuable that a lot of companies are looking for. And some people can do it very quickly. Some people take more time to do it and that's fine. Some people work like just part-time on it, do it five, 10 hours a week. Some people go all in and try to finish it in one week and get the job as fast as possible. And it's self-paced, so you can go at your own pace. But yeah, you definitely always have to put the work in. I mean, anything in life is like that, whether it's going to university, starting a business, anything's gonna be like that. And then you mentioned meditation really helped you a lot when it comes to having the mindset of being able to get things done as well. So that's definitely something to look into. Meditation has helped me tremendously in my life as well. I noticed that my life just kind of falls apart when I'm not meditating and when I'm meditating, things just miraculously work for whatever reason. So meditation can be very, very helpful as well. So thank you so much for coming on and sharing your story today, Chris. I really appreciate it. Yeah, of course. Thank you for having me.