 Everyone knows that if you're gonna be making a new application it should be cloud-native, it should be using cloud-provided infrastructure for our legacy apps, right, like our stateful ones. We are working to modernize the important ones and we are also working to containerize them. We want to make as many of our applications reliable and resilient, right, so they can meet our customers' needs. We want to reduce costs by lowering that on-prem VM footprint we have, right, because it costs money to own them and it costs money to to maintain them.