 to another episode of Bunkin' Play. Hey, we got a legend in the motherfuckin' beard, man. We got Mad Max. I got eight bucks. That's it. That's what you got. We really don't care. Appreciate y'all. We a Florida boy, man. That's right. Appreciate you for having me here, man. Thank you, man. But then I'm right. Call me Mad Max. Yeah, that's what you want to go by anyway, huh? Yeah, don't bother about it. Yeah, don't bother about it. Not just Mad Max. Yeah, I'm like, that's me. Yeah, man, that's what's up, man. Tell us, man, what's going on with you now? We see you got your podcast going on. Yeah, I got the Maxed Out podcast. Hopefully, getting ready to start back here in the next month or so. For sure. And I got my LLC, The Mental Health. How is it going? It's going wonderful. I just did some symptom and symposium speech and had a platform. Well, I had some powerful guys up there speaking and on my behalf and just about mental health and Ron, our test was there with me. And I had him up on the stage with us. And so, you know, with us two crazy motherfuckers. So, you know, that's powerful, you know, just to be up there talking about that. Yeah, just to let everybody know it's OK. You know, it's OK, you know, to ask for help if you need help. For sure. That's all. And then in the black community, that's what we lack at. Because sometimes, you know, it frowned upon, like, you know what I'm saying? We be quick to say, oh, that motherfucker crazy. And leave it at that. But sometimes, Nick, you want to vent. Sometimes you don't got nobody to talk to. So it's all that done bored inside. And now we unleash it. Now I'm mad mad. Right, there you go. And that's how it builds up. And that's what it ends up to be. But like I'm saying, you know, I mean, you got to have a place where you can outlet to and just somebody to talk to. Man, shout out for you even thinking about doing that. A lot of people don't think about reaching back and giving people old platforms where they safe to come talk to. OK, that's what I'm about. Yeah, so now you doing the right thing. But then in that, too, you know, I got my boys, you know, you know, one at Hampton and one in high school at North Mac High School, 18th in the nation high school. And my man Tristan Maxwell at Hampton getting ready to do his thing. So y'all pay attention to this motherfucker too now. This motherfucker feeling go to fuck off too. He on the way. Oh, yeah, you got them right. He got a shot. What year is he at Hampton? He's a senior. He got one more year left, though. He got he got two years left. Because of COVID situation? Yeah, when COVID came in 2020. So he got the COVID year. So but yeah. And then my young killer, two nights, named Vernon Maxwell, the third. But he's so goddamn crazy like his daddy. He just be wanting to call Trey. He said, man, don't call me that motherfucker name. So we got to call this motherfucker Trey. Trey, shout out to Trey. All right, Trey. Yeah, but yeah, but other than that, man, that's all I'm doing, man. I'd love to play golf, you know. I love doing what I'm doing right here with you all. So that's what I'm about, man. So look, how the family games be like y'all, you know what I mean? Y'all be playing like horse or a jet playing, you know. Well, shit. One on one. I shoot the shit out of it now. It's like riding a damn boss. Yeah, sometimes you got to show them what they got to shit for. Oh man, but these motherfuckers really can shoot it. These motherfuckers, some jump-shoot motherfuckers. You know, it's just in D and A, man. Yeah. That shit don't lie, man. You just got to make sure you bring it out these motherfuckers. But if you bring it out of man, like I did these two jump-shoot motherfuckers, they jump-shoot motherfuckers. But see, you got dog and you too. So can you teach, you can't really teach that dog. Do they automatically got that dog in the dog? Well, see, with the difference in that shit, my people's nine. God damn, you got to be missing males to be a dog. You know, cause you ain't missing males, nigga. You ain't hungry by shit. Nigga, you hear what I'm saying? So I used to miss males when I came up, you know, not all the time. Now, ma, I'm just bullshitting. I don't get mad, I don't get mad. Now, damn, ma, you got to see this shit. Don't be talking about it. Call me, friend, what you said that shit for? You know you ain't missing no damn male. I miss males. And so, and my boys right here, these niggas, you know, they pampered. You know, these kids come up today. We try to, you know, fill it in the void of what we didn't have when we was coming in with our kids. You know, we don't want them to motherfuckers to go through what we went through. So, God damn it. So then, and it makes, and it really kills these motherfuckers. You know what I mean? But you know what I mean? So when they finally face that verse, they ain't ever faced this shit? Well, come on, man. Like we, that's what I'm saying. That's the thing I'm talking about. But other than that, man, I think everybody's going to be successful, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause they got all Mad Max, the dad in it. Let's show. How you get the name Mad Max? Man, you know how they got them white folks too, man. You know what I mean? You talk your shit. Nah, man. You know, that's like, that's it. Like modern day slavery. Nah, I'm just kidding. Nah, fuck it. Really, man. But you know how they do, you know, you know, my mom's like, she asked me like, damn, what the fuck going on, man? Baby, they don't even call you, you know, Vernon Maxwell or no more. I was like, damn, man, you know how, man, they started that Mad Max shit. Yeah. That's what they ran with. You know, like just like they changed my man name to Koota Kente, you know, that man had a name before they changed that man name to Koota Kente, not being all this on this old stuff like that right there about racing and all that. But still, my name got changed from Vernon Maxwell to Mad Max when I played ball, because I guess it was the way I played too. You know, everybody know, you know, I was a, you know, I was kind of a loose cannon. And, you know, but, you know, that's the way I had to play, because that's the only way I knew how to play. Right. If I played any other motherfucking way, like you said, like Kenny, you work with Kenny and Kenny done told all the story. Yeah. So I know this shit is crazy what he had told y'all, but I love Kenny to death. But like, if I played any other way, man, I wouldn't even been, I probably wasn't shit. I probably wouldn't have made it. Yeah. So I had to play that way. That's the only way I knew how to play. Shout out to Sugar Hill, Gainesville, Florida. For sure. For sure. They know, we read, you were nice in football too though. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, I was a hell of a... So you think it was from the football aggression that, you know, it probably translated to the best ball quarter. You, it don't matter what you would have played, you would have been like that in golf. You were a golfer. Yeah. You can't be doing all that in golf. No, you got to get there and have some etiquette. In golf, you can't just go crazy. You know, you got to be a little quiet. You got to be, it's not good. Yeah, yeah. You know, all that shit out there, you know. So I'd be a little reserved and everybody would be like, damn, boy, you play golf? Not damn. Yeah, I play golf all the time. That's what I do all the time. But I mean, I'm sorry. What was my question again? Oh, did the football, like you playing football translate to over in the basketball? Like you was going to look had more aggression. Sometimes I think about it. I think I should have probably played football because I would have made it to then. I feel I know I would have. Because of the way I play basketball. Right. Because I know I was a little too more aggressive. Like you were looking at me. Like even the sauce. I was like, yeah. Not really. Now there's a lot of hard motherfuckers in the NBA, though, when I played, when I came up, when I came up. Them boys as hard as hell. Early 90s. But I mean, it ain't it ain't about being it's just about the mindset. You know, I had a different mindset. You know what I mean? When it came to that part and and that's what separated me. You know, a lot of times when like I shit one game, I might like, for instance, shit. They say I had the worst and the best two games in the fucking NBA history. One night I had 51 and 30 in the fourth quarter and the damn next day I came back. We had a back back. I had two. What transpired? That's what I'm talking about. 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And I just I love play though. And I just I just for sure that's where I compete. Who's some of your favorite teammates you done played with all time? Oh, man. I got so many up, man. All right, man, we're going to be talking off my fucking day. I mean, Lajuane, I mean, A.I. Jeri Stackhouse, I mean, Kenneth Smith, Mario Ellie, Otis Thorpe, Carl Herrera, David Woods, shit, who else? Chris Webber, White Chocolate, Jason Wallace, Williamson, Gary Payton, Ven Baker, man, 42. Yeah, yeah, shit, man. So many of these motherfuckers. Man, you done seen you done seen some of the best players to play with some of the best players? Alvin Robertson, David Robertson, Sean Elliott, shit. Steve Nash, yeah. Steve Nash, shit, got them dirt. And all of them was good team, man. Oh, man, yeah, all this motherfuckers was cool. Yeah, man, yeah, shit. It was so many guys. I mean, I mean, good guy. I mean, I keep going on and on. That was Gary Trent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and his son in the lead, though. Shooting the shit out of it. Yeah. How'd that make you feel when you see players you play against, see their sons in the lead? Man, it makes me feel good. Goddamn, baby boys, let's get us some goddamn money. Let's get us some goddamn money. So I don't know why I don't want to get some goddamn bread. They want to have that son playing right now. Damn right. That's right. Let's do this. You play with Clyde. Yeah, I play with Clyde for a second. Yeah, yeah. Nigga, if he ain't named me, he probably want a good team, man. No, man. OK, let me go back to that. Clyde, good goddamn Clyde, Drexler. Great team, man. You got a ring with Clyde. Yeah, one year I played with Clyde. Clyde was a great teammate. Yes, yes, he was. Yeah, yeah. Because I swore I had a ring with him. Heavy on NBA Jam back in the day, man. Vernon, Clyde, and Elijah one. That was the squad. But you had a hell of a squad. See, a lot of niggas don't know. A lot of niggas don't know. Back then, NBA Jam, you only could play with three players. That's it. I only got them five-on-five or something, too. Then you play with whoever they give you. Whoever they give you. They'll motherfuckin' get on fire, too. That's what you want. Man's on fire. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what real got there. You gotta know. Yes, sir. That's right. I loved it. Man, so look, tell us, like, because you know, you don't never hear, like, too much about, like, the dream. You know, a lot of people say they go train with him. He teach him footwork, but like, as far as just him, like, how was he like a person when you, when you played with him? Like, he was cool to hang with? Oh, man, yeah. He's a great person, man. Our dream, you know, it was different. You know what I mean? I mean, when I first met him, you know, he wasn't Muslim, but, you know, he was cool, you know, Dan and, and great teammate always. Okay. If you were at the same church that he got on, shit, he gonna block every damn thing. Every time somebody get by, he gonna be blocking. Never got nothing. Yeah. Trying to block every damn thing. But, um, great teammate, man. Um, um, and then when he became Muslim, that's when it became even better. You know what I mean? So, you know what I mean? He got more humbling and more quieter, you know, and he used to always tell us this was his thing, give me the ball. Give me the ball. Yeah. You know, you know, before. And then when he became, we just know to get to it. Yeah. Like it was no question. We feed off of him. We used to do with. We had. Throw it into him. Had oldest thought. My home boy. Shout out to oldest thought. What's up, baby boy? You know, I love you. Appreciate you coming to my golf tournament on September 22. Got a shot at the oldest thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, yeah. But, um, yeah. But, um, we had oldest thoughts, crashing the board, getting the dream, oldest get, um, dream enough space to operate. We got either Kenny, myself, Robert Horry. We got either Sam. He forgot about Sam. Mario, Ellie. We got the kids to death coming off the bench. Shout out to my boy, Mario. Uh, I mean, we got Matt Bullock, big tall, 6'10", white boy coming off the bench shooting shit out of it. What up, Matt? Uh, yeah. Um, so we had to kill a squad, man. We couldn't. Yeah. Everybody around dream was three-point shooters. Except, like, oldest. Oldest was the Bruiser, you know what I mean? It was, we had been together so long and we had knew we was going, man, we started a damn season 23-1, man. Yeah. So, y'all knew, like, it had the championship feel way before it got, y'all just ready to get there. We were whipping ass. We were going around, whipping everybody ass. Dream, you dream, he used to talk shit on the court at all? Nah, he was quiet. Dream was quiet. Can't you shit? What can't you say? I'm hitting him with the lateral movement. He said, he said he'd take his mouthpiece out and say, I'm hitting him with the lateral movement. Nah, I'm telling you. Nah, he really didn't say a lot, man. I mean, I mean, he just, like, he was, I mean, that's great. Greatest player I've played with. For sure. I mean, just what he used to do. Hey, you know, he'll get a lot of credit though, you know, when they named the top, the top players. Yeah, yeah. He was such, he was such, he became so humble, man. Yeah. And that's the way he is, man. He don't really care about that, man. That man got so much motherfucking money. For sure. That man got down. They like to bring shrug up that bubble. That man had a beep, beep, beep, beep. That motherfucker, he got that dream. Hey, my boy dream. I know, I ain't going to be talking about your money, but I tell you, you got a bunch of money. We know that. He owned down there half a downtown Houston, Texas. Yeah. Hey, how was that? Like in that Houston era though? Like, you know what I'm saying? When y'all playing and stuff like, you know, this before screwed up music and all that. Like what was the feeling Houston? Well, it was at first when I got that motherfucking, 1980, 990. The motherfucking shit was like somewhere in the cell. That shit was like, it wasn't the shit. We was like under 500 and shit. Yeah. And then Don Cheney was really the one. See, everybody think Rudy T bought me and two other rockers, but Don Cheney, the black man, the black coast man, Don shot up Don Cheney. Because that changed my whole career, man. Because when I was in San Antonio, that shit was a disaster. I mean, God damn. Keep it real, man. Nah, yeah, that motherfucker, he was general manager at the time. But I'm going to say it was out there. Shit. But thank you, San Antonio, for drafting me. Worried about it. Shit. But damn, after this is part eight, oh, I shit out of 50 pigs. You know, I got caught up in all that drugs, Canada and Florida. So I got. Well, yeah, real nigga bounce back. Yeah. And I had to climb all the way up to the ladder again to get back to where I was at. So put up with the shot of the pop. Y'all drive to me, gave me a chance. God damn it. Then Don Cheney traded for me over to Houston. And he really gave me a chance. Because he was like, motherfucker, I'm putting them put you in the start lineup. They had a Mitchell Wiggins dad. I mean, Aaron Wiggins. What's his name? Andrew Wiggins dad. Andrew Wiggins dad in the lineup. They had Andrew Wiggins dad in the lineup. So it was like, yo, man, I'm from the goddamn Swiss. I put you in, you know, let you start. You want to do that? I was like, man, who the fuck on starting down? That's what I'm here for. Coach, put me in this lineup, man. Put me in that lineup. Yeah. So he put me in the lineup. That's when I took off from there, man. After that, man. I ain't look bad. But see, that's what it's about. Like when you get that opportunity to eat. The fit, it'd be that fit, man. A lot of motherfuckers get to places where, you know, they won't really have a fair chance to like, you know, to shine and be who they are. And unfortunately, when I left, San Antonio, I'm not talking about San Antonio. San Antonio is a great place. And I swear to God, they drive to me. And I appreciate that shit so much. But when I got to, when I got to them Houston, when I had them damn handcuffs taken off me, man, when I got them be and be who I want to be, man. It's like the way I want, man. I swear to God, I've flourished, man. I took off, man. And that's what it's about, man. It'll be about the fit, man. A lot of these kids, a lot of these guys, they go places, man. They just ain't the thing, you know, they got motherfucking veterans in front of them, you know. And they trying to groom them. They trying to help them and shit. No, they really ain't going to get a fair shot, either. Because these motherfuckers, these veterans, they can help you. Now go ahead and stay with you after practice, and you can follow their regimen and shit and try to, you know, emulate that shit and get your work out and shit like that. But they don't, like, when the popcorn starts popping, that motherfucking stand gets filled up. He going to be sitting over there. That nigga going to be out there. Because, you know, that veteran, they going to play that nigga, that veteran. Right. So what I'm just saying, it's just, it's about the fit, man. You got to, you got to get, like, to a place where you can and to a lot of these guys defend. So a lot of these guys, when they come out of college, they got this, it's just be, they go to, like, veteran teams and, you know, and ain't no chance these motherfuckers. That's why I'm glad they got to Glee. So they got to wave players and shit. Yeah. So these guys don't just lose confidence. They can go down there and bust some motherfuckers. And shit, that is shit like what you talking about. That should have started affecting your mental health. No, it does, man. Because, I mean, you're going to kill all your life. Yeah. And then you just become like, damn, these motherfuckers just don't, I can't do shit no more. I ain't no way I'm going to play the night. No, I'm not going to send you down here. It's like the farm league, but it's really not though, my fuckers still. Because they shit, some of them guys are going to be packed the fuck out. Yeah, some of them are going to be making like my, I mean, my little, my nephew, the sexist, Jayden Springer, shit, I know he make 1.5. Oh, he hard too? Yeah. Yeah. I know he made by 1.5. Yeah. You know, 1.4 somewhere around there. Yeah. And shit, he played, he was a two-way guy and said, so I'm just saying, so, you know, and he done developed so well. I mean, so that's what I like about, you ain't got to go across the water, you know, all the time to get that money. It's still going, that's what it used to be. No, no, no, no, no, that's what I've been ready to say. Now I love that, no, I'm sorry, I ain't knocking over there now, but I mean, you don't have to travel as far, you're still getting money. Niggas want to get money right here. Money is money, yeah, money is money, yeah. But I mean, overseas is good money too. Now, like he just said, now, not knocking overseas. Ain't none like the league, though. Yeah. Being over here close to niggas, you know, and then it costs more to fly them out over there. Niggas still want to be here and shit from college and high school. Give it a read. Yeah, that's right. No, but read. Hey, so look, tell us this, man, who's some of the players that you look at now? Like, you know how the NBA is now that you look at, like, I like his game. I like LeBron. I mean, I like so many of these guys. I like LeBron. I like... So look, it's a lot. A lot of people debate this. Could LeBron have survived in your area? Oh, yeah, of course. Easily. Thank you, man. That's all. Why are you out there like me being saying he wouldn't? Easily. He's 6'8", he's 7'8". Easily. What a bad one or better ones too? Yeah. It's a mad master tier, y'all niggas. They ain't want to listen to me. They ain't want to listen to me. They ain't want to listen to me. They ain't want to listen to me. They ain't want to listen to me. Yeah, but still, though, you got to understand that Gert, he got... He's so big and he's so... See, that's Gert. Come on. Come on. Come on. He's going to get down. Nah, he's an OG. He's going to run. He's going to run through your blood, brother. He's going to run over your ass. You know, like LeBron, I couldn't... I couldn't... I can't go out of LeBron. You couldn't do your shit with him? Shit, no. How can that guy just back up? Let him shoot. No, man. That man can shoot, too. I mean, I can't do that. Tell him when you start looking. Oh, shit. Oh, look at him. Oh, man. Oh, before he saw Luke, he thought he could do... Yo, that motherfucker... I was a little kid. I was a little kid standing by that big, old motherfucking boy. That boy big as hell, man. It was like, Goddamn. He don't... How tall he is? Six, eight, six million? I don't know. Luke might be six, eight. Yeah, I think he about six, eight, man. You got to see the size, though. His size. Yeah. You got to see how big he is, though. He's like... Is he wild? Yeah. He got to be about 220. Yeah. 218. He's a big old dude, man. Yeah. Oh, my God. He got some size on him. This kid's big nowadays, but I don't have... I don't struggle in this motherfucker. Because, you know, like, in the 80s and 90s, like, the Bigs would be, but now that shit got damn... Nigga Wings. Nigga Wings. Nigga Wings. Yeah. I said they draft length. Right. They're seven foot long span and shit and all that shit. Yeah. Like, I got long ass arms to be six foot. No, for sure. You know, my shit long as hell, but they want them niggas with them arms touching that flower over there. They want them niggas on. They want them niggas on. So, but that's what they looking for. But no, I love the NBA, but there's so many guys that I... I mean, I will be talking like once again all night, all day about who I like in the NBA. I mean, I miss a lot of motherfuckers. Like, I love Jimmy Butler. You know, I... He got dog in him, huh? Man, yeah, man. He's just a damn winner. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's what he is. And there's so many of these motherfuckers. I mean, I... Joel and Bigs. I mean, there's so many guys. I can keep going on and on. What you doing with that first chick you got? I mean, bought some dope. I was... I was... I love this talk. Just kidding. Flipped some dope. I was... We back, baby! Oh, kids. Yes, though. Got to double that money. They didn't give us nothing back then, boy. I had a goddamn... I told y'all how low I went. They could lead a game right in the trap. I had to flip that money. Flipped him. For sure. Yeah. I did something for my mom. Man, respect that. Put my mom's in a crib. I had to flip that money. How the family life was then? For you, you were the first one to make it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really out of Gainesville. Well, where the area you was at? Gainesville, Florida. There really wasn't nobody. Well, I mean, after me, you got Clinton Porter. Yeah, uh-huh. You got... Shit. I mean, I don't want to miss nobody. I mean, I don't want to miss no damn body. I'm so hyped. This motherfucker ratting him. Oh, man. I forget. Clinton Porter's... Shit, Gainesville. What? Trey Man. Right now. Clinton Porter. Trey Man's from Gainesville. Yeah. I didn't know that. Trey... Trey Man got a game. He might be... Trey Man, yeah. Oh, the star. Yeah, the guy. Oh, I know. Trey Man. Trey Man. Trey got a game. Yeah, Trey Man. He went to the University of Florida again. Trey Man. Shit, it's some motherfuckers. I mean, so many of us, man. I'm sorry, homeboys. I'm stuck up. Nah, it is. There's a lot of mess in Gainesville, though. Did you think about any other colleges you knew automatically? No, no, no. I was going to go to... You know, North Carolina State had just won the National Championship in 1983. I got my 84. So, you know, Jim Vibrano, God bless him. You know, he was... He recruited me real tough. He was out of North Carolina State. And Florida. But my whole country asked. You know, I had never been nowhere really like that, you know. You country? Yeah. It was crazy. Gainesville, Florida. Yeah. You know where the Gainesville is? I never been there. Oh, my goodness, man. You know where the Gainesville is. I was saying no reason to go there. What? I'm going to be bad for it today. Yeah, the mama there. Yeah, the mama there. Yeah, that shit is crazy. Yes, it was back in the day. It was bad. So, you know, and I was from Gainesville and I never had been nowhere really. So, and then Jim Vibrano, he used to show up at my high school and shit. They had just won the National Championship in 1983. And then everybody would be like, you know, I'm down the hill smoking dope. Pulling the weeds. I ain't even in class. They tell me, yo, nigga. You know, I had to watch out, niggas, for me. Come tell me, nigga. Hey, tell me what's going on up there. Niggas, why I'm down here blowing in the trees. I ain't going, nigga talking about, hey, boy, Jim Vibrano up there. Boy, you better get on up there, boy. I'm going to run in your class. He coming to your class. So, I run up to motherfucker and then that's how hard he was after me. He stayed in Gainesville. Yeah. So, University of Florida, Monty Tau, he hid me. Coach Tau, you know what I'm talking about. He hid me from that. He hid me from the North Carolina State for like a month. Like, like he just hid me. And, and then, so, because I, and then I ended up long story short. I ended up signing with, I went up and visit North Carolina State and I got on the damn plane, really hadn't flew no goddamn way. Yeah. I'm a country boy. I'm a country boy. I ain't been no goddamn way. Right. I don't, you know, well, mama don't let her go nowhere too tough. So, I got damn, so I flew out the damn, I flew over there, Raleigh, shit on their private jet and shit. I got in that motherfucker and got out of the plane. I felt, as soon as I got out the damn plane, walking down the steps, I said, oh, shit, I don't think I could do this. This shit too goddamn far away from home right here. I was like, God damn, I don't think I could do this shit. This shit too far away. I ain't seen the cameras or nothing. You went back. You went back immediately up. Yeah, I got damn, no, I went on, I went and, I went and visited that. Okay. I went on the campus and visited that. But your mind was made up way before you shot him off. Yes. I was like, yeah, nigga, fuck this shit. I ain't finna be this far away from my mama. But it was too much turbulence or something on the plane. No, it was shit. That shit was too fucking far. Nigga, that flight was like fucking two hours and some chains and shit. I was like, oh, shit. What? Flight just got damn long. I wonder how it got damn long. If you were to draw, you would have lost your fucking mind. My mama and them motherfuckers ain't going to make a point to that damn fly. So I know them motherfuckers have to drive back and forth. I ain't going to be coming to them again. I'm like, God damn, we're here. I can do this shit right here. But I swear to God, the visit was one of the best visits I have. I went on, I took all six of my goddamn visits. Hell yeah. They say you get six visits. I took all six of them motherfuckers. I took six in football and I took six in basketball. I miss school. My whole goddamn thing. I got damn on. You knew you was out of there? Yeah, I was going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I damn. Jim Vaughn, he put on a show for me. I mean, I met his family. God bless him. He's a great man, man. Everything they say about it is the truth. I mean, with that Kansas, I mean, I'm sorry that. I mean, I was a great man. But the team, what he did for me when I went to the store, when I just the way when I walked in that damn arena, when I had North Carolina State, nobody had never did that shit for me. What he did for me, I said, it was crazy. Hell, motherfuckers have the cheerleaders, the band. They had a crowd in that motherfucker. They had black motherfuckers. And you still like, why not? Eight thousand motherfuckers. Can't do it. They had like eight thousand motherfuckers in that motherfucker when I walked in that damn. They had a Bernie Maxwell goddamn dress. Can't you still touch your heart to this day? I really wanted to play with the motherfuckers cause they had a good squad in Florida. I know they motherfuckers rebuilding. So I really wanted to fuck with the motherfuckers. So, but I was like, shit, this shit too far away from my mom. I'm comfortable. Even though my mom should beat the shit out of me, but I had to stay close to her ass. But yeah, I had to stay close to her. But that was one of the best of his ever, man. And then meeting his family and stuff like that. And I'd never ate a steak that big. Well, he fed me. That's the first time I ever stayed bigger than the plate. The damn big ass plate this big. I'd never ate a goddamn steak bigger than a plate like that. So. In Florida you have to do shit. Shit, Florida. When I got back, what I had said, they asked me what I was going to do. My mama told me when I left that motherfucker nigga, one thing you better not do. Don't put your name on shit. Don't sign shit. I said, mom, don't worry about it. I ain't going to sign nothing. 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I was in the air coming back, the Gainesville on North Carolina State plane, and then when I landed, I'm looking at my mama, I was like, what the fuck is she doing? What the hell is she doing this motherfucker? I ain't no shit, don't be here. And Florida coaches and shit, the whole coaching staff and shit, they, when I walk off the plane, get off the plane, walk on the tarman and shit, they motherfucker, all these motherfuckers and staffs, what the fuck is these motherfuckers doing here? So, and then my mom told my boy, what the fuck are you done done? I said, I ain't doing nothing, mom. What you talking about just saying that I was gonna go somewhere? Damn, I like the damn school, man. But she said, you ain't signed, it's like, cause she knows, this shit was, this was business deal. We had, we had with Florida, we had a business deal going on with Florida. For sure. So we had to make sure we get this business deal done with Florida, you know, with this motherfucking. This shit bigger than Nino Brown. There it goes. That's all I said. We had to get this motherfucking biz-ack, we had to get the bag. Yeah, what's up? Yeah. Fuck that state. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all I'm saying. Yeah. And back then motherfuckers wasn't really getting that bag. No, in fact, the ladies held on. I was Mr. basketball in the state of Florida too, so come back and basketball. So I was the number one player in the state, you know. So, you know, Mitch Richmond, all them boys come out with me. Oh, Mitch Richmond wins the Sacramento. Killer, man, killer. Ain't no heel from Florida, though. Yeah, yeah, down in the South. Damn. Yeah, so, but yeah, but Mr. basketball, so wherever I was going to go, they had to pay my mom. Yeah, for sure. Your mom had to give her something. I had to give me too. Hey, so look, that was with basketball. If you would have stayed with football, what school you were looking at then? I probably went to the Gators. You went to the Gators? Oh, okay. They wanted me to play both ways. Was Emmett there when? Yeah, Emmett was there. He came there when I was a rising junior. He was a freshman. They wanted me, they wanted me to play when I was there. They wanted, they asked, they kept asking me to play. They wanted me to, I was a corner. He was a corner. Corner. I was a corner. Yeah, I was a corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Number one football player. Yeah. Damn. Man, pop your shit, man. Charlie Ward. Them boys younger than me, though. Charlie Ward. Yeah, Charlie Ward came after him. Yeah, yeah. Deion, Deion, Deion. He ain't done George the Florida line. Yeah, Deion, them younger than me. All them boys younger than me. What you think, how you feel about what he doing that? I'm an old ass, I'm 58. Man, what shit? You move around better than some niggas 30. I keep myself some shade. I thought I got this damn knee done. I'm perfect now. You just brought up, Deion, how you feel about what he doing in Colorado? Man, I love Deion. You know, my homeboy, you know Florida boy, you know what I mean? He's just blessed. That's what he do. Yeah. You know, he always get people to buy into what he's about. For sure. Because nigga, I watch every Colorado game, nigga. I mean, everybody. I mean, everybody do. Yeah. The only one. You ain't the only one of my peoples. We all do. We ain't ain't no college football player. When they get about a week, they be like, Well, man. Yeah, I got that, my homeboy. We got that. Go to the bar, just get some damn drinks. Yeah. But that, that ain't nothing to watch. Colorado ain't playing at once. For sure. I'm at 12. Damn. So you being at them number one football player at the time, you, what made you choose basketball though? Well, I was one of them. Um, shit, uh, I just felt like longevity. I was a motherfucker. Covered out of high school, 6'4". Mother fucker, 145 pounds. Oh. 6'4". A corner? Shit. That's different. 145, I would add in fifth grade. I had 16. I had 16 picks though. One season? Yeah. Nigga. Hey, what don't y'all nigga be doing? Right, right, right. Stop. Throw this way. You couldn't throw that way. Throw this way. And you fancy shit today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was 4'2", 40. What? Yeah. Nigga. That's fast. That's late. He's fast. What? I was 4'2", 40. I was punt return. That Florida's been different. Anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the new water right now. That's why it's the new water right now. But I did all that shit though, yeah. That's going too far. He gotta be talking about one of the best athlete conversations, bro, like that's great. Yeah, oh yeah. Dying in Florida. Like your name needs to come up with one of the best athletes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me, Dying in Florida. Me, Dion, there's a bunch of us dying in Florida that came out there. And no disrespect to all my homies. Y'all know who y'all are though. But this year, we all, it's a bunch of us. Yeah. They did both sports, didn't they? At a high level. At a high level. Nigga, 16 picks. That's crazy. Nigga. Oh yeah. My senior year, 16 picks. Yeah. Do you know football baseball? I did when I was younger though. Oh, but you ain't all caught up. Yeah, that shit wasn't for me. But I should have stayed with that shit. See how them chicks, they get a lot of that baseball shit. My folks get paid like out there. Nigga, as fast as you are? I know it. That's what I'm saying. They didn't put you in the still of base. Yeah, that's it. Making a million in the still of base. That's it. Yeah. You're lazy. I know y'all ain't finna throw them out. Mm-mm. It was a bunch of my fuckers though, ran like me though. You know, back in Florida, shit. I mean, I ran a little track too though, but, you know, it was a bunch of my fuckers ran like me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like that was just like the norm down there at the time. We ain't had no motherfuckers teach you how to run back then. Yeah. You know, these motherfuckers got. Man, they getting trained and stuff. How did you know that? Just my fuckers, the motherfuckers know how to run through the wind. Them motherfuckers got there. Them motherfuckers be treading that wind. Them motherfuckers. Hey, that wind blowing on us. Man, these motherfuckers had them motherfuckers. We was running wild. Like, we're swimming and shit, but we're still running, folks, too. This thing, we knew how to run. And we had trained teachers how to run. This is real, man. I'm just saying, it's just real, man. But I mean, we're just raw ass athletes back there. No, for sure. That's what it is for. We got to have that clip. Hey, you ain't know how to get on nobody's ass? I mean, as far as what we're saying, talk to me. Like, you know, like, not so much physical, like verbally, like, hey, bro, I ain't one of them, because you really like that. Like, you ain't one of them. You know, when you go to a town, I don't play like that. Yeah, yeah. Well, a lot of motherfuckers don't play with me. Yeah, I don't do a lot of plans. I don't really know a lot of motherfuckers either. Yeah. So, you don't know me, motherfuckers. Don't play with me. Right. Straight up. I'm gonna slap shit at you. No, I'm on my mama. Gracie Mae Maxwell. Yeah. I'm gonna slap shit at you. Yeah. Nigga, I believe every word. I believe every motherfucking word. Like, which one of your teammates back in Houston was like your role dog who you go out here in town with? All the motherfuckers. Kenny, Sam, I'm telling all you motherfuckers. Kenny, Sam, Mario. You got there, Robert, shit, the white boys, all the motherfuckers. Shit, I had all the motherfuckers. I had dream, didn't know a fuck with a stuff like that. I dream, you ain't, I ain't tell you a dream, I dream. But all the motherfuckers, we as a party like a rockstar. Anytime you get a drinking, the nigga starts seemin' cooler anyway then. Like, you know, that white boy ain't have a band. The niggas be forgettin', man. They even have wives and shit. We always married and shit. We always married and shit, but we wasn't doing nothin' extra now. We was just, none of that. And the bar just vibin' and shit. We wasn't doing no sexual shit. Nah, nah, nah, we ain't did none of that shit. None of us, nah. We wasn't cheatin'. Oh, nah, I know that. No, we keep that shit clean. We already know that. But like back then, what was life on the road like, you know what I'm sayin'? Man, like I just said, man, like a rockstar, like motherfuckin' these goddamn young guys, these rapper niggas, when they go out there and go on concerts and shit, do this damn tours and shit, that's what we was on tour. Yeah. And for the fuckin' hotel we walk in, and they try to keep it discreet and shit, right where we was gonna be staying. But they find out. Well, I don't know how these motherfuckin' girls find out, man, be a goddamn lobby full of motherfuckin' people. We comin' through that motherfucker like we goddamn in the White House. Wait a minute. I see you, girl. Girl, don't you go nowhere. You stay right there. I'll come back and get a drink with you. Hey, baby. What's up? How y'all doing? This is crazy, man. It's like a rockstar. Because you was like notable, though. Like, you were like, yeah. So you ain't no nigga like. But you know how sometimes we were talking about like when we see football players, you know them by their jerse, but once them niggas take their helm and all, you don't know who they is. You don't know the fuckin' who they is. Right, right, right. So it's like a different like notoriety, like with you playin' basketball and there's football. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, I go both, you know, I grow my hair. I just grow my shit back. So I, you know, I'm just glad I'm able to grow up here. Yeah, because a lot of niggas, who can't do that shit? Yeah, 58. And then, but I'm gonna cut this shit off in the summertime and be ballin' so that I go ballin' in the summer, grow this shit back in the summer. Just your range with this shit. Just let niggas know that's what I can do. Hey, shit. Yeah, that's it. Get you a little nappy tilt. Yeah, that's something. I'm tryin' to grow this shit out somethin' while I can start doin' that whatever them both with that lil' sponge shit. I like that. I'ma sponge this motherfucker up, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are. No, bro, that take off about 20 years on you. Like, you look like you're in your 30s. Oh, yeah, well, oh, boy, I got that, man. Hey, you ain't gotta hit Magic City for your league. Niggas, oh, boy, hey, nah. I got... Bring that shit back to me. Oh, lord, yeah. Oh, lord. He's throwin' itch in his crush. No. How do you think social media would affect your time period? Man, I would've been, like, suspended, ticked out to leave. That shit would've fucked me up, man. That shit would've fucked me all the way up, nigga. I mean, I couldn't have survived on that shit, man. Niggas, I couldn't have... Nigga, I'm glad they ain't in this shit right now. I would've wish I'd got these checks. Yeah. But goddamn, boy, social media, boy, I wouldn't have made it, nigga. All that damn dope I was smokin' outside, goin' home, standin' in the street, all that shit. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. I was everywhere. Man, I was... I was... Oh, my goodness. You would've made Shane room so much. Oh, my goodness, man. All I got them Tims, these shit, they got all that shit. What they call that shit? That's what it's called? Oh, yeah, yeah. Man, I was standin' on that motherfucker. Oh, lord, this shit would've been... Yeah, it could. Don't even be you. It'd be other folks. Yeah. You see what I'm sayin'? Yeah, any motherfucker would've caught me every night. What you would've said, like, nigga, like, you... With niggas, you doin' somethin', like, nigga got a camera, like, what you... Niggas do not do that type of shit. I asked some niggas, I oughta suck on the ass. I oughta suck some niggas, go get them niggas, man, get that goddamn phone. Go bust that goddamn phone, nigga, and get that nigga... And get that nigga the money for that phone, man. What the fuck are you doin'? At least you payin' them. Tell that nigga, huh? He go $1,500. Get that nigga out there. Hey, man, you y'all niggas, you fuckin' up. Listen. Got that right. Got that? I don't let the motherfuckers record you, y'all. Thank you. I'm talkin' about that nigga, man. Give me that goddamn phone, give me that goddamn phone, y'all. I said it never came out, my nigga. I be knowin' like the goddamn athletes, they be havin' NDA with the women. You ain't gotta start havin' NDA with niggas round them, too. Right, right. Bruh, cause it don't... These niggas be more groupies than the women. Don't take my niggas, that's what they do nowadays. They used to be, back in my days, the women. Yeah. They used to be niggas. These niggas be stoppin' the women from getting drunk. Y'all tell the niggas, man. Man, this is all what you do, get the fuck out of the way, bro. Come on, man. Yes, nigga. Get out the way. What that goddamn song is it say? Move, bitch. Get out the way. Get your ass out of the way. What the fuck are we doin'? Hey, so you got to see Mike in his prime. Oh, my goodness. How was that? Watchin' Michael Jordan. Well, goddamn movin'. Really? Motherfuckers and... Rated X. That shit. That shit was crazy. Boy, goddamn, I'd never seen no motherfucker like that till I played against that motherfucker. Cause he was everything, they said he was. Yeah. You know? But look, it was real shit. I think it was more than what they said he was. Shit, they fucked up. Before that, did you, you know how sometimes they talk about people, did you like, they just overrated? Nah, yeah, I seen a lot of shit. I did a lot of that shit with shit. Yeah. I got to deal with that motherfucker. That motherfucker, God, hear him true. Yeah. That motherfucker, Black Jesus. No questions asked. We used to call him Black Jesus. Black Jesus. What was the first matchup like? It was like everything I thought it would be. My motherfucker was gonna go at me, and then he didn't know I was gettin' ready to go back at his motherfucker to ask, you know? Cause, you know, like, one thing a motherfucker to play good offense like that, they don't really play good. Play defense. Yeah, I mean, they can play good defense. They say this motherfucker, they say Mike play good defense. But shit, if I get a chance to hit you with two, three combo moves, nigga, I'm gonna get by you too. And that's what I used to do too. Dream, I'm sorry, this motherfucker just went at me. Shit, I'm gonna go at him. I was snatching this motherfucker in the ass too. Yeah, for sure. And getting there too. So I was doing him like that. It was the competitive. Yeah, yeah. We was goddamn going back and forth. They won. In Chicago State, and we was beating their ass all the time. You know, we'd beat, I mean, I swear, I swear. I mean, I probably lost that motherfucker probably twice. At all the times. With the Rockets. Yeah, with the Rockets, man. We was beating the shit out of them boys, man. We're beating their ass, man. I mean, we're going to Chicago Stadium, old ass stadium, the last one, walking on the ground, hitting the motherfucking white folks up there. We eyeing up and then like we slays down on the ground, motherfucker beating on the ground, kicking on the ground and shit. We walking up there, the motherfuckers pulling coins on your head, walking up the steps and shit. You know, you're wearing that motherfucker, you're really going to get dashed going down the steps. For real? It doesn't hit you right with beers and shit. Nigga, imagine losing a Nigga Pope bill. That's what it's going to be doing. Yeah, no, you might get that done too, but when you're winning, for real. Oh yeah, you already know the run like this. Yeah, that shit was crazy. That shit was crazy. Hey, I'm going to tell you this real quick. I was watching Winning Time. I don't know if you see that on HBO, they been talking about the series between like Boston and the Lakers. I ain't know they were so racist like that in Boston. Shit, what the hell you talking about, boy? In them damn days, boy. You ain't no boss with them motherfuckers racing right now today. They still today. But how it was like this? No, it was crazy. Now, just think if it's still today, it's reckonable. Just think that it was back then. What I said was horrible. You know what, imagine them, the motherfuckers just got to go down in their motherfucker man and play in the wintertime, man. Them motherfuckers don't even have the heat on them for the motherfuckers when they go in their motherfucker. They can't get out the goddamn street clothes, wrapped before the game. It's so goddamn cold. They got to keep on them goddamn shirlings they had on. Yo, I'm on everything I love. You know, this nigga's goddamn. I mean, it was cold enough for the white folks kept that shit like a ice block in their goddamn locker room, man. And so I done seen it done to us before too, you know, so. But man, it was different over there, man. I played in the old damn Boston like stadium and shit. Right, for sure, regardless. So, but I'm just saying, man, but yeah, that shit, their motherfuckers say anything out their mouth up there, too. Because, you know, white folks, when they got your hot number, now they're going to goddamn act the fool on you. And they feel like they got the money you plan for them. Yeah, but the motherfuckers, they got your hot number. Now they'll tell you, nigga, fuck you. And then, nigga, what you going to do? Nigga, all the white folk, you up there. You right there, I mean, you outside this motherfuckers establishment in a bar. White folk beat breaks off you up there. Especially when they got about 60 or so. They say they got some beautiful women up there, them Kate Verdean girls. No case. See, that man, nobody. Yeah. Now they never heard about that. See, all they never heard about that. I only been to Boston one time. Crazy. Yeah, I've been to Boston one time. Now they say them girls are like French and African. In Boston, real international. Yeah, they are. Yeah, that's right. They sit and close down early, too, though. Yeah, yeah. They sit and don't stay open late. When I was there one time, they were like, I was like, what's the spot? They were like, everything closed here like at one. Shit, ever since they tried to kill my nigga, Paul Pierce. Oh, yeah? Yeah, they had to shut that shit down. That's why they shut that shit down. They try to kill my nigga for nothing, jealousy. You fuck with that boy, Paul Pierce? Yes, my nigga, I love Paul Pierce. Shout out to Paul Pierce. Shout out to Paul Pierce. The truth. Damn right, damn right, the truth. That's why my nigga love all my young boys, man. Hey, you got to play against Jordan and his prime, but you saw early Kobe before they went on. As they was going on that run, what did you think in comparison of Jordan and Kobe? What did you think about Kobe game? Well, God bless you first of all, Kobe. Great man, great husband. I mean, great father. I mean, but I mean, shit, I love Kobe to death. I saw him playing in high school. He came and played against us in Philly. Well, John Lucas invited him over there. He tore our ass up over there in Philly, make a long story, he killed our ass. I was telling him, boy, you ready? You better come on. Got there, boy. You got there, you ready to go, man. There's an open run, like y'all just hooping or something? Yes, he was in high school. He was at Lord Marion, and John Lucas used to bring him over all the time when I was with the Sixers and to play with us. So, main stackhouse and all us, and shit. That motherfucker used to go at me and stack. For real? Shit, yeah, man, that motherfucker's in there. Man, that motherfucker, Kobe, you know, Kobe, that motherfucker ain't got no, he ain't got no fear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That motherfucker's just a kill, kill, kill. You know, and that's why he was in- So, it was in high school then? Yes, man, he was a killer. He was fucking killing high school. It was unbelievable what he used to do to that motherfucker in high school. He used to do some unbelievable shit in high school. That motherfucker, and then he's, then when he got to the lead and shit, and then Michael became like a mentor. And he started like, you know, patting this game at the mic, just looking at all that goddamn film, and the motherfucker started running up the damn floor like Mike, wagging his goddamn tongue out his motherfucker mouth like Mike, and goddamn, goddamn, shooting that motherfucker like Mike, and I said, Goddamn, this motherfucker Mike. This baby Mike is motherfucker Mike. This motherfucker baby Mike, man. Yeah, damn, man, Kobe was a bad motherfucker, man. Goddamn, man, I was just happy to see the man, and it was sad what happened, you know, unfortunately, but man, don't wanna talk about that. Just talk about a good coach, got the good stuff, and the family, and, but a great kid, man. I mean, I mean, shit, messing, shit, I mean, sad, man. So you knew, you knew like when John Lucas was bringing him over to play against you, like, cause he doing, y'all in the NBA. So you like, oh nigga, you ready to be in the NBA? Oh yeah, I told him, yeah, shit, after that practice, I just tell him, boy, you better come on, boy, cause shit, nigga's coming out of high school, coming in this motherfucker, you better go and get your money. Go ahead and get your money, and shit, there ain't no sense you going to college. Yeah, nigga, he would have terrorized the leagues. Oh my goodness, oh my shit, college would have been crazy. So he came out on the league. Yeah, but shit, he was tough, he was tough. He was one, oh my goodness, yeah. That was a nightmare too. Yeah. My fuck was a nightmare. You having Jordan flashbacks guarding Kobe a little bit, like a little, yeah, well, I never really, I got a little bit of, I didn't really get that killer Kobe. Right, he was young. You know, he was really young, he was young. They had just started going around. Yeah, I had crossed him over in the damn farm and hit him with the game, Kobe. I ain't mean to talk about Kobe, cause I don't even want to do that, man, Kobe. My man, God bless you, Kobe. Yeah, I love you too much, but yeah, I mean, I, you know, he was young, he was still like coming of age. Yeah, he was playing behind guys over there with the Lakers when he first come in, you know, he wasn't came right in starting. So, you know, and then, you know, so, but you're not, I love that man. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Now, you know, playing against Mike, we are ever cool enough to like hang out after the game or there's just too much like black mother fucker is going on on the court. No, no, no. You know, you know, after the games, the games be over the shit, Max, I'm cool. Okay. You know, I mean, I ain't got no problem with your motherfucking ass. We ain't got no jurors on nigga. Yeah. And I ain't got one on either. Yeah. That shit over there. Yeah, yeah, nigga, that shit's over there, nigga. But like motherfucking like I told him about, like Kenneth Smith said, Mike said, well, Vernon, I keep telling the story where there's plenty to me. Cause I say, I got them ready to fight Mike out there in the game and Mike say, God damn, Kenny, what's up? This motherfucker, this nigga kind of crazy. This motherfucker off, man. This motherfucker, what's going on with this nigga? This nigga want to fight me. The whole goddamn game. I mean, really want to fight me and bring his son over there to the locker room with all that Michael Jordan shit on, man. They asked me to sign this shit, man. I was like, man, what the fuck? This nigga's crazy for real, man. So, yeah, man. But he was just like, when he got there, when the clock went, yeah, we family, man. We in the same goddamn fraternity. Nigga went to the NBA. That nigga might start bringing the ball up on the other side. Yeah, nigga, we in the NBA. Nigga, we all both made it. Nigga, fuck this shit. Nigga, we just competing, nigga. His son had a booze gear. Yeah, a whole motherfucker here until I hadn't pressed that and all that shit. Sign all that shit, Mike. Hit him on his ass. Hit him right there. Hit him everywhere. Hit him up. Now, I know Kenny always bring up, because y'all won back to back when he left. When he left. And then he came back only like 17 games and y'all beat the magic who they lost to. Now, do you feel like, I know what you're going to say, but if Mike was there for the full season, y'all probably would have saw them in the finals, I would think. But you know that shit, man. I mean, I mean, I'm just saying, I don't know, man. I don't know what the playoffs would have brought, but I know y'all motherfuckers, I ain't never seen them motherfuckers lose a loser goddamn series. Okay, but goddamn it. I'm telling you, motherfuckers, goddamn it. I'm looking at all goddamn, what are these cameras at? What am I looking at? They all run. I'm looking at all these motherfuckers. I'm telling you, motherfuckers, goddamn it. We would have knocked their motherfucking ass off. They would have lost us, goddamn it. He would have been 61. Man, they got that right. They had this, they ain't hand nobody. I mean, go through the lineup. Go through the lineup. I understand that. Shit, we had motherfuckers goddamn, big African back there blocking up everything. Blocking everything. Mike's come through there. They wouldn't have nobody for a king though. Man, I'm trying to tell you, what a guy. Goddamn, caught right. And goddamn, my homeboy will produce. Yeah. Well, who's lonely out here? Nah, yeah. Well, he's not out. I was just saying. But he's away. So, man, the motherfuckers getting raped, man. That's how we used to beat them. Because they ain't had nobody stop dreaming. Dreams falling away, shooting that bitch out of bounds. Bro, you know how Niggas playing down. He was playing like that. That back in the day, that's what I'm trying to tell you. And this shit was, this shit was, I'm talking about 91. This 91, dude, I'm talking about, this was beating the ass, beating the breaks off. Man. 91, they was swept them. 92, we swept them. I don't know, Google it. Shit, I don't know. But when y'all played the, y'all played the Knicks. When y'all played the Knicks, y'all went to game seven. Yeah. Right? Eastern Conference Finals, the Bulls went to game seven against the Knicks without Mike as well. So, imagine Mike was there in the finals. I think it would have been a little different for sure. That's all I got to say. Man, you used to be with them there. I'm not playing, man. You know I'm playing. You know I'm playing. You know I'm playing. You know I'm playing. You know I'm playing. I know this nigga. Now you know, this motherfucker won't be controversial. Shut this mouth, fuck. That's what, that's what the fuck he wanted. He won't give a fucking thing. He got a computer right there. Google it. I'm a Bulls fan. I'll Google it. God, God, man, I can tell. I can't keep hearing this nigga saying this to him. Nah, nah, nah. He asked you a question. You said you'd answer. Now he gone. Yeah. Now he gone. How about something? What did we do with my peoples? God damn. Nah, for sure, man. Come on, man. I think it would have been good series, man. It went better than that Magic series. Yeah, that's right, yeah. Swap them off. We definitely, man, appreciate you pulling up, talking shit with a man. We got us a basketball. We want you to sign that motherfucker, man. Put your signature on there. Come on, my peoples. Gotta do it. Nah, for sure. Oh yeah, we got some memorabilum now. Something they fucked up that word. What we got, though? Memorabilum. Memorabilum. Yeah, that's it. He fucked that up, man. Hey, well, they know who signed them gloves right now. We just asked them shit what it was. But look down there and don't sit next to them. Nah, G.F.T. signed this shit right here. Oh, that's my guy right there. Yeah, so we got G.F.T. Now we got this. All right. Hey, that shit, I want nothing to win out here, man. You gotta see, act like he know what to do with that shit. This shit went back here. I said, what the fuck? He done all that fun. Right here. Come up and tuck him back. He ain't control the ball, nigga. Don't let the ball control you. Nah, man. We appreciate you wishing me anything. You gotta say what you did, man. Nah, man. Just, hey, I got my golf line coming out. Okay, I got an app coming out of my golf line, Vernon Maxwell Golf Line, the Vernon Maxwell Initiative, LLC Mental Health. I got that going. The Maxed Out podcast coming back to you in the near future, real soon. For a show? What else came? That's it. Hey, tell me your social media. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Vernon Maxwell 11, Twitter. Hey, what happened with that? He burned mine. Maxed with it. He was on that? No, you'll see. You'll see my damn picture, all right? That damn push on that motherfucking nigga right there. You see me? That's me in the fucking uniform. No, man. It's nothing but salute, man. We're a wish to all that, man. Shout out to Vernon. Max, Max, Maxwell. Pushing up on us, man. No doubt, man. Y'all following? Goddamn broken play, man. I appreciate this shit. Man, for shows, man. I appreciate y'all. Man, we appreciate you coming through. Great questions. It was crying, bro. Yeah, for show. Beside that shit, he was doing. Yeah, I ain't like that shit. Yeah, man. I ain't know he was going to do that shit. Man, let me get from beside this. Y'all keep tuning in to Broken Play. Oh, man. That was funny, man. I was crying, man. Man, I appreciate you, man. Oh, my God. For real. No more respect.