 Don't you know rushing off instantly I Think this would have been great conversation live This is a great conversation life Hey, Jay, I'm alive. You're alive It's rags the that's that's a that's a weird assumption for you to make Is rags the purpose of telling me about the other? It you cut out like twice there. What yeah, I saw that weird Um Jay is rags the person you were telling me about the other day warning you about Yeah, you should you should give a warning You're gonna watch you're saying you're saying you had a friend We were like, oh, he's conservative and I was like an example of how And we came to the conclusion that you just makes edgy jokes and you don't actually know if he's conservative or not Oh Okay, well, I know I'm curious what you're talking about Oh, that's definitely Mahler Mahler is now against a marriage. Yes, it is. Mahler constantly Not talking about the pride of the straight I'm going to that one thing of if Mahler's channel is not only right wing, but partisan right wing. He's a writer or than I am Remarkable Republican I talk a lot about I Retweeted I quote tweeted. I found some random person through something That oh it was a cynical CJ One of his tweets and some random person whose entire account was dedicated to hating Mahler was there and was like Oh, I wouldn't anticipate someone who associates with the likes of Mahler's. No far, right? And I quote to it. I was like, holy shit. You were not lying when you said this smaller The other week We are I am pretty right leaning. Yes, pretty What's the more extreme than leaning? I'm right stomping. I am right. You're right. You've you're right fallen You've just fallen over Stumbling you lost your balance right fallen left fallen strong strongly stumbling to the right. I think it was Exaggerated right. I've been I've been defenstrated I guess I threw the over to window to my left so that I would then be on the right Dude, that's a really really good rap lyric and that's somewhere. Just like Winder that's a I'll do it. I freestyle Constipation Elaboration Wow, I like it. Oh, you're just doing what's that song? Where it's titillation Um It's a Papa Roach Remember Papa Roach when he was he had like one song that everyone had on their iPod Nano I don't remember that. I don't yeah cuz you're fucking 17 seconds old ages ages Ages and to be like you don't remember things that happened longer ago What I this I don't know if it's not but from what I hear most things happened before I was born. Yeah That's a gist only loads of stuff was going on before The other day a 13 year old girl Unironically told me that she can't she was part of the group of people cancelling some content creator Because they were a gist And I was like just blown aback because I'd never heard someone unironically say that I've only heard someone mention it in like Oh, I'm sorry able. It's not a just able Oh, was it sia or something? No, sia got no, but then she differently abled But then she continued to say well, I didn't actually watching content I just like i'm canceling them, but I like this like I just enjoy canceling people. I'm just psychopath, you know Well, she's 13. I don't I don't know how like informed into the decision. She's 13 year olds can be psychopath Yeah, that's a that's the age of psychopath. Everyone's a psychopath at 13, I think Yeah, I would agree especially girls Sexism my first job we're live, right? Let's let's check off every ism we can possibly do Yes, we're live That's the goal So what my first job was to referee soccer games And uh, what highly suggested if you need some money, uh But one thing that I've noticed extremely regularly is that little girls are fucking vicious like To prove who's the best amongst them boys have the boys They especially at that age they seem to have more of a sense of honor But girls. Oh girls are fucking vicious those little bitches, man They're not out there to prove who is the best amongst them. They are out there to Annihilate one another. They are the roughest Cuff is smooth. Oh man little girls. Oh, they could be when it comes to sergeant I don't know Parker the fucking Vicious and don't even get me started on volleyball. Oh my god These girls when they're playing volleyball because I had two little sisters in why still I still have them It's oh good. Good. Okay Jump over me and they didn't like die or anything. Um, but they used to play volleyball and I'd go And they're older just They're they're oh man They're oh watch out for those little girls, man. They'll fuck you up They they attack acts like that. Oh, would they like like hit people in their shins and stuff? They like Yeah, shit Next make each other's arms. Oh my god. Nice and guns. Think of the koojies It was it was fun job though. Hmm. Hey It was a game would be like an hour and you'd get like 20 bucks for it Oh, so bad. Yeah, you get to watch your game, right? Age and you have like no bills or anything and every saturday sunday you go out referee four or five soccer games You make like a hundred bucks cash You're like hell. Yeah, that's a shit ton of money. You could buy a channel we live on right now Is it moller or mooller? mooller mumbler Mooper Remarkable republican Secret alt channel I still Like what if you and quinton reviews were the same person playing like different sides of the field I wouldn't be doing that great would I with the alter ego? It would be like, why do you make him so ridiculous? I feel like I don't know Which by the way, I saw a screenshot the other day of The actual channel remarkable republican is talking about remarkable republican is like he couldn't Maintain it really well because he just he couldn't keep being stupid like to keep finding retarded things to say in a retarded way And he was just like, I give up. I think he's given up anyway I'm sad. I know Sad indeed. Also, welcome to e-fap one one one It's one eleven. I don't know if we're supposed to do something special for one one one. Does that's like is that Um, we got six people Um six six one one when you get to e-fap number nine hundred and eleven that you can do something special for your american audience Oh He's so excited. Holy shit He'll be really happy about that. I'm sure we'll we'll have to cover a review of like Wait, spider-man two that that to be altered in its marketing because of 9 11, right? 9 11 Lilo and stitch. Oh, that's another one. There's a couple whenever you're just I know of I didn't know spider I think there was um The promotional image of spider-man like on the two towers or something Uh And they were like, uh-oh acts that I remember that yeah, I think I think the twin towers are in spider-man two actually like the video Oh people saying is spider-man one not two Oh, oh, okay Am I am I wrong in thinking that the psp? uh, super beloved uh, spider-man two game is Uh, has the twin towers in it because I remember like I think jumping off them Oh, no Remlazar had the twin towers. Did the did the image ever get published or was this just like, uh Something that people know about Oh, shit. You got memes. I didn't even You can cover two terrible videos and one in a field in Pennsylvania And one in the Pentagon, I guess he forgot about that. Yeah, we have to yeah Hmm If anyone sees this meme and they're like, huh, that means you're not a true e-fap watcher And you've not seen e-fap gaming 11 or 12. I can't remember what it was. I think it was 11 That's great It all makes sense under under context we've gotten so limited in in the creation of characters in the e-fap lore now That three lines is a character to His name is Lines then just are they vertical or horizontal? Uh, two of it It's horizontal two are vertical ish. Yeah I would call horizontal like left to right lines and vertical up to down lines You can see him. There's a picture of him on that meme. Yeah, let's write that gene use the second image That's gene. Which which meme? The bottom he's the king In the chat He is uh, what is what's the mob to a king? He's the king Oh, it's like the hangman uh thing Or is it more like a staple like is it meant to for one line to be longer than the other or no? Oh, definitely Um, also everything you see was meant to be that way whether it's seven or table in chat. Apparently that carry a lot of people Yeah, a lot of people are typing the Japanese character. Wah in chat. It does kind of look like that Are they crying? What? It's like wah The the the Japanese character for w a the sound wah That's the cry I guess you could read like Crying lips Luigi's first name Well, Luigi Mario Hey, should I get uh, spider-man 2 the video game should I get that on what is it? PS4 i'm not gonna buy a fucking ps5. I have a ps4. There's a spider-man 2 on ps4 Yeah, just came out. Yeah, it's available for ps4. I think that's uh, last morales one. Yeah, that's like an expansion or something I think yeah, that's an expansion for the other one and that was the thing the uh, cosmonaut said if people are already assuming it's an expansion because like they're racist that it's about a black person So of course it's not a full game. It's like what? No, no, I just googled it you can it is absolutely uh a ps4 game No, it is a dlc, but it's a dlc for the Only 50 bucks not 60. That's pretty interesting You can pay extra to get like that. I'm the new the older game in one package. I think It's $50 because they they wanted miles Wow $50 on the $60 that's fucked up you assume with a dlc therefore your racist is a new one to me Yeah, see miles morales is technically its own game, but it has about as much content as the dlc for the original There you go. The dlc for the original is 30 bucks But it wasn't about black people so um, also Yeah, one one one Welcome and and we should probably get we got two new bloods here Disgusting horrible new bloods first on the left is mr. Capital. Oh opinions. Hello. How do you know how they do? We've seen we've seen so many videos on here before where you make fun of People rudely for having their own opinions and you can't handle that so we're here to condemn you for that. What's wrong with you? I'm not hearing a lot of condonation. That just sounds like a Question. So why are you ruining things? Why do you have to be so mean is my point? Like you're like, oh, look at standards Yeah What's that about like like why do you have standards? Okay? He's ruining things because you have standards That's objective. Look only bigotep standards. Okay I've some people like we should cover your video on uh hillhouse and rip it to shreds quote-unquote and I was like Oh, but I agree with some of it Finally Yeah, you can find like two hour discussion between us about that on metal's YouTube channel now. I think it would be there somewhere. It's gonna be hard to find unless he's labeled it, but Out of war part two or something out of what two part two maybe That might be it. I think that probably is it It's the one with us all in it. Yeah, it's the one where we're all in it and just having to chill In fact, that was the episode where we were like, hey, you guys want to come on. You felt you know, okay It was uh, it was an event But yeah, thanks for having me. I'm sorry that you hate that I hate people's opinions I will try to do better next time And uh, you want to what do you want to go by for this stream? Uh, I even call me Jamie that Jamie it is And our second new blood Is uh a guy who has apparently Been transferred from history. He's looking pretty old there with his little suit and his beard then again International Yeah, if I was to take this seriously then I guess, you know, it's pretty crazy that we have rodry But alive and well in this coal as well. So time travelers all over the place But uh medium d speaks. How do you do sir welcome? Uh, hi, thank you for having me. I'm uh pretty good. Do you have a medium? It's not a big You don't want to you don't want to say it's a lodge or small you want to stick to medium Yeah, no, I it's it's it's sort of a three fold joke. But yeah, how does it? Yeah, one of the three folds Okay, so First of all like I uh I talk about hip hop a lot uh in in my videos a topic. I've always liked a freestyle since high school I wouldn't consider myself a rapper by any means. It's just like a thing that I do for fun I don't put on any music or anything, but every rapper is sort of like, you know, like lil something or big something He's never been like a rapper that's like, oh i'm medium Just uh pump or medium skies or something. I don't get it Uh, so there's that Then obviously there's just the the blatant penis joke. My name's daniel. So d medium d Um, and then the the third fold would be a statement Yeah, well, the third would be I make videos about media Uh, hey, so medium mediums of expression media Mm-hmm. It's sort of a three fold thing. Hmm. I only counted two folds, but that's okay Do you get concerned that people might picture the folds of like a fat person when you say that? No, not until right now Well, that's that's a warning for your future Medium folds. I suppose it could don't have to be fat. They could just be really old and the skin is just folding around I wouldn't want to take that away from old people Or they could be like used to be fat and lost a bunch of weight That too. It could be young and thin and yet have folds Did you see where fold? I have a big scar on my belly and it's formed like a little fold of skin Don't be a bigot. Okay. Don't assume someone's folds Imagine if you get fat enough A person will come out of you like because you've that's just how it works Like once you're fat enough you will just be you'll you'll separate into two beings That'd be really creepy Oh, I think so too, but the second is like the size of a fist so I don't really buy it And it's like the prestige they both see each other. They both know if they kill the other They get the rights of the human that they both previously occupied. So they immediately fight I feel highly there was born Yeah, I don't even make sense. I'd say from a dna perspective, right like with all we know I think that's the way it would probably go Yeah, uh, does that mean we bob might have other moviebob's out there? Um, I think And he snapped off like He's like the anomaly he like consumes that second when it's about to like become another person It just sort of reinvigorates him and he becomes bigger It's like the idea that moviebob is He's like a sponge. It's kind of like this people just grow off of moviebob But is that how quintered reviews came along just he just voted off a moviebob Oh god Because quinton is not like a good anything. He's just sort of a You know a sub part other stuff A worse moviebob I think he's better than a moviebob So I know that like people like quinton obviously has an audience But like I feel like nobody that is That would be considered like contemporary or like any form of content creator I've never heard anyone be like, yeah, I respect quinton reviews I've never heard of that either never heard of that either Yeah, he's a sad boy Has quinton reviews ever posted like a picture of himself with someone else for you know, I'll you know as a hypothetical Uh, I think quinton reviews ever had like a selfie with someone he admired who was maybe yes May or may not And the woman may have said I don't like you anymore. Get away from me. You creepo or something like that Is there something even better that I saw happen in person and was amazing Awesome Oh, yeah, also Just just because of how much this has already been I was gonna say I gotta gotta make sure I introduce everyone, right? We've also got literature devil making a low turn here And uh, and j. Hello j and literature tell how you both doing? Oh, I'm doing fantastic. Yay Jay you have a camera over here doesn't rock it in a room then Jay you unhappy you haven't said anything I'm hungry and I have to go staying. Oh Wow Wow, it makes you look really bad Jay, I've never heard you not say I need to go whining Well, that's because I got places to be in the fucking no you fucking don't you don't leave your house You order your groceries There are other places you order your groceries Most of your orders groceries. You don't go to a store and buy them. Jay does not Are you like 80 years old? Jay do you have life alert? Who would be alerted Plus like you just get to like you just have a regular shopping bag Go get your own groceries. You have a lot of show. There's a lot of shopping baskets at the shop Yeah, they have those The service that they provide I think you don't need an underlying criticism of laziness. I'm smelling it the groceries Should I also mention that it like it's a physical pain for me to walk because I need surgery on my foot Yeah, well, they have those little carts that old you're really You're not helping this argument you're 80 years old You're you're not doing a lot of favors to this idea that you're 80 Oh my gams they heard I've just aged well if you're 80 years old and you still haven't seen lord of the rings That's even more disappointing I've seen lord of the rings Wait, how do you not know that? You can have met fulkin Has Jay been lying to his cast of r as he's been not letting them know he hasn't seen lord of the rings We don't get media on that channel. We do like just shit posting on that channel If you just added up all the time that you spent at home not going to get groceries You could easily watch those movies. That is true Yeah, probably Oh Just want to iterate I I'm not a white person. So I am going to sign off on any racism That anyone wants to claim for these people It's not But your picture is that of a white person Well, no, I I altered the pigmentation to be brown. I don't know notice you I can show you the original picture Sure. Yeah, because he looks pretty white That's racist rakes I would say the same thing But uh, I don't know the media has said that I am either black or or brown or some or POC or something I don't know. It's been revoked and re-granted to me several times over. So I don't know where I stand I think it's like depends on the day of the week. So I don't know Yeah, I don't know. It's uh The term poc hate that term You you so you turn the hair dark and you sort of is sort of I guess skin the skin's a little yeah And I yeah, I made it darker. My skin's a little bit Than that uh on the avatar, but you can't identify with alexander hamilton unless he looks just like you Yeah, that's how it works. Oh my goodness. Yeah It doesn't look like me but his character does not look like me. I can't I can empathize it with him because I'm That's that's how we can tell what the race some people are if you do empathize them That means they are your skin color meaning satan must be white because I The white devil I mean, you know, would you have to you would you have to really at that point mention that? Little redundant, isn't it? Yeah Oh, shit. I've been reminded so Jamie, which do you think is better? Christmas or halloween So though I would like to add that halloween is also great Yeah, but it means everyone knows halloween is great Well some people on this in this debate seem to say one or the other sucks and I just You know, I'm with you man I like them both a lot and I don't like it when people have to shit on the other side Just because they've chosen one. I've never said that being fury or halloween sucks That's It's all right It's fine It's fine christmas is worse. Yeah, the answer is christmas christmas is the better Um medium d speaks Which do you believe is better? I'd say christmas. Yeah another loss Do I need to substantiate why or just like can I just you can say if you want to I mean Okay, so you get like sure on halloween you could say you get presents because you get candy But you have to trigger treat to get candy and there's sort of an age limit on that that's sort of an ageist sort of thing You have to actually work on halloween is that is that why you don't like it as much to work on halloween I would say I've more frequently had to work on uh christmas than halloween Because I worked halloween restaurants and bars for uh seven years My own logic halloween is better Yeah, no No, you get more presents. You uh are more likely to hang out with Larger groups of family. You're less likely to have to work. Um or be in school um There's just so many reasons like halloween you like you don't get the day off christmas you do Yeah, I I I find that a lot of the people who prefer halloween are um a bunch of losers kind of um They they don't they they don't have they don't have a family that loves them They in the social life is clearly in shambles. They have an addiction to sugar Addiction sugar Wait, if they were addicted to sugar, why do they only do it on halloween? Like would they be sugared up all the time, right? That's always one of the irritations Like heroin addicts don't do the heroin once a year. Does that make any sense? Oh, it doesn't make sense. If there if there was a day where there was a celebration of heroin You know that the heroin addicts would be all over that day. I feel like the heroin addicts would be like a regular day I can I can actually speak for the heroin addicts. Um How can you be a heroin addict if you're a guy? What? I haven't ever seen the heroin's journey Oh, I see what you're saying. Well, no, what you wouldn't you be if you're addicted to heroin's Like you're more likely to be a straight guy or a lesbian. Oh, wow. Well, that's appropriation. We have to rename it Heroin is sexually wow Well, what else do you consume heroin? You're addicted to them. We're talking about being addicted to heroines Yeah, so if yeah, so I consume them via I eat them Fuck it. Sure. You eat you eat out heroine heroine too. Not bad It was a nice candy Fava beans on the side Esteban I do like the even split right now though of halloween christmas and a little cast it's neat I would have thought that the argument for halloween would like the thought the availability of thoughts that are Slutty drunk and in like there's no christmas thoughts. I think rags would take issue with that I like I would have thought that would have been the whole argument Well, there's loads of arguments for halloween, you know, they're just Halloween I want to hear that It's awesome. I mean, uh, I guess that it's objectively better Like and subject to the the modifier is is is usually exciting and unpredictable and Media relating to halloween is often very See medium. This is what I have to put up with all the time This is what I put up with on this show Okay, look, well halloween is at one time of year I get to see my family because all the weird cult weird occult is summon all these demons. Okay. I'm stuck here on the mortal plane Uh, so there you go. I thought you're So you're not normal. Why do you stay wait? I'm stuck here. I got I got summoned here and I fell here Well, just have them summon you back. No, it doesn't work that way It's a it's a lot of paperwork a lot of um blue immigration form Exactly. I lost my hell card. Satan follows the rules. It's important to Lawful evil, you know, which is which is, you know, sort of biblically accurate Like satan has to ask god for permission to do things and then god says yes Oh, yeah. Hey god, can I burn down the city? Yeah, sure Can I fuck this dude up in his whole fucking life to see Do you like yeah go for it really I'm playing for tonight. Leave me alone. Do whatever you'd be like file it under test and you should be able to do anything Yo, I gotta give a shout out to this guy Chat that just made a super deep reference to a podcast that I went to once a year ago Cut out when he said his name. Yeah, I don't know what what he doesn't get a shout out. No john hastens. Don't let him have it John john haichman Hastings. Hello, john hastings I like haichman better All j we should probably uh, I guess we should probably get started because there's there's some in the I mean, I want j to see all of this today, but I I love it. So I say Joe Bragg's like I yeah She always has job is just a weird way of pronouncing job Um, have you not seen uh arrested develop? I've seen the uh, I saw the first season I haven't seen any of it, but I've heard it's good It's great. Yeah, he's in. I really like I thought it was really funny Is that a plot hole that j has to leave because he has places to be but he can't even walk He's not even he's not even trying to like do stuff in the time. He could be here. He's quiet This speaks into the the key theme Um Yeah, it is impossible to keep up with this chat. Holy shit. It goes Oh, they're fine. They like to run around They have lots of energy zoomies He said he did that son. So he has every right to be pissed at us. I didn't do that I don't I didn't do it. I don't want me Leave me out of this Braggs, do you like Christmas thoughts? Do I like Christmas thoughts? Yeah, like a mistletoe and Tinsel on the trees and the presents Christmas thoughts About Christmas. They're great Big heating chestnuts. Also, I have provided you guys, uh The link this one. This is watched I was shown I was given this by somebody as a timestamp from a video from movie bulb from 2009 And somebody says that it's just was he smaller or larger back then it's funny to say that Because He it sounds like a joke You listen to him and it sounds like a movie's attempt to be like this is young movie bulb because he's exactly the same but really high pitch But I would think that people in uh in alabama really Excited about christmas thoughts because they're their cousins or laborma All right, we've got five people in this group How can you be a thought in alabama if you don't have internet? On their phones, and then they they text it to all of their fans It's like 240p on their obama I wonder if these are good, maybe we should e-fap the coming on days movies. I'm sure there's copyright to hell and back It looks like there's three parts. There's llama drama. There's grand alama and there's lami goes So the video is 480p. So we're looking at max quality Where I want to game over I want us to get to Three minutes the interesting part starts at around two minutes 40 I don't know if we should we should watch the rest for context Especially because it regards reasonable five rags Oh, wow. Yeah, what a what a what a coinkie dinkle So I guess we'll just watch until he says the thing because I I just thought it was amusing All right, so this is for anyone who doesn't know this is movie bob some Legendary internet contributor Lots of things to say as you can see from his little banner there. He talks about Um, mario robo cop godzilla spider-man women, you know I I googled him. I uh, I did a curfew Introduction and crash course on the movie bob. I I I got an idea. Come on. Who doesn't know about movie bob by now He's One of the top most prolific of your viewers of all time. He's just uh, he's he's up there with ebert Oh, yeah, definitely. Roger bobert knee jerk bobert. Robert bobert bobert knee jerk robert knee jerk Well, he's movie bob. He's clearly movie robert robert ebert proud to be an american prouder to be an american geek His advocacy for a geek master race started early then. Yes, I don't think he's still proud to be an american Oh, no, he probably fucking hates america and freedom and liberty and all sorts of stuff He wants a moon theocracy or something It's a martian one rags. Why'd you make him sound stupid? He is a martian Moon is on the way to the martian No, a religion That was remarkable republican wasn't it wouldn't you just want to monarchy where he is the king No, he's the god king. It's a theocracy and he sets all the religious edict god king god king movie bob Imagine like he got him from the movie on his golden throne, but i mean he has that in bob wheel trust thing going He does in slob we trust In bob we trust the bob averse the the books and in slob we trust did you say that? Maybe bob used to be an objectivist he loved iron rand Interesting. Oh for real that's one of those guys. Oh jump from one extreme to the next I swear because objectivism for me is i'm like, okay, like stop halfway you're good And with bob it's like stop entirely and you're good Entirely different values when he made this we're gonna see a rare like well What do you say that because the thing that says that this word wouldn't be seen in his in his new videos He would not say something you said in this one No, don't you know that public figures aren't to ever change or Anything you said 10 20 30 years ago still applies to you today. We're about to see a right wing movie Well, he is right. He just he just tells himself. He's not he's he's bald Are you lefty or something? He's like he's he he wants to be but he's really a crazy authoritarian quasi fascist Nazi person if he was in the same room as them they'd all be pulling on their callers like, oh gee. Oh, yeah Trying to be in the same room as all of them and they're all like, can you go away? We're gonna see like something like I don't know I love I love guns as much as I hate taxes and the government. I hate the government also reagan was awesome I don't can't wait for me. I love guns as much as I hate taxes. I what yeah I'm fucking hate taxes Who actually likes taxes? Yeah, who likes taxes? Who is like, oh boy, it's tax time They add a little bit extra because they love taxes so much. Maybe it's the fin dom people Or the bdc and they Because they're fin dom. Yeah, they're the financial domination. Yeah, they're they're into that. They're gov. They're gov dom Yeah, take my money barris. Take my money. Please take my money. Yeah Fucking shit Oh, it's take my money, baby. Spend it on caterpillar research whatever the fuck it is You say that like it's not necessary Actually, we're having a competition of left like a new government study finds that caterpillars turn into butterflies. They don't just disappear $10 million study shows that caterpillars turn into butterflies experts confirm That's that's what we always assumed at first. So like they just disappear. That's that's their cycle They just a little truth in the air websites. You're like, yeah partially true They just like tag out and the butterfly comes in. But where does the caterpillar go? Nobody knows possibility The government's gonna find out for us No, it was it was pokemon when they saw metapod turn into a caterp No, wait, what is it? Caterpie metapod and then Butterfree. Yeah, they were like shit, man. Maybe there's something to this The government just has a really big patreon that we're not allowed to unsubscribe from So When you're 65 Also, jay, did you know this you've never watched a movie bob video on efab before What well, of course he hasn't watched it something Um So it's amusing that the first one would be one more like more than a decade ago The past becomes the present the now Bob the occasion of my eighth episode I elected to focus on the subject of video games and race Owing largely to the controversy surrounding the then upcoming capcom title resident evil 5 Namely that it's set up involving an armed uniformed white hero blowing away hoards of rampaging dirt poor african villagers Oh Yeah, I don't know if he's ever played resident evil First off, we never had this problem. I don't recall this ever being an issue with resident evil 4 Where a lone armed white person goes to a spanish village and It goes down a bunch of dirt poor You know his span or latino or their hispanic their hispanics, right? Okay. Are you talking about spain or south america? I can we're talking about spain. So hispanic spanish not spanish. Okay, so hispanics. Yeah I don't I don't remember it really ever coming up resident evil 5 4. I don't think it there was probably somebody who said something Um, I just find it amusing that like he wants to mention how poor they are before the important part Which is that they're are dead Yeah, they want to murder you and kill you and take over the world and not those even if they were rich before they died They're poor now because all their money went to their inheritance True. Well, they're they're trying to Let's completely globally saturate and we have to stop them Um, it is funny though because this is unrelated to the fact that we just finished resident evil 5 and on a playthrough Me and rags like this video just it just happens to be about that Oh Of which resident evil Um, I don't know. Oh wow. Wow. Wow. You don't know the resident evil the the deep tapestry that is the resident evil lower Is that one the one with the the weird, uh, circumcision, uh, theory. Um, well circumcision is not a theory That's just a theory A cock theory You know what i'm talking about the the justin wang made a video about it. Justin wang talked about circumcision Oh, what a perfect last name somebody made this I I don't know all the context is Oh, it's big jungus Yeah, I don't know why they made but big junger That's i'm gonna save that I think it relates to jay's Tism foot be a sweet cart wolf. This is what they picture Listen jay needs groceries delivered, all right grocery store isn't downhill from you your Fuck God I noticed you only have two folds I have a question. How come they're called steam rollers? Um, because they run on steam really is in the beginning probably Because I have no idea because I saw one the other day They were working on a road and there was a steam roller and I was like, why do they call it that? I I see no steam. Maybe it's a historic thing Yeah, I would assume so the first thing. Okay, so steam right when you look at it. It's not very flat Steam right? Yeah Over the century Do you look at the game's very software platform thing steam? Do you know what they do is they flatten? They flatten steam Like because i'm looking at pictures of old ones and they look like they're powered by steam So i'm like, I guess that I guess the name just stuck Because I guess originally steam exclusives So, um, this article is about steam powered road rollers for informal use of the term that includes other types see road roller Road rollers gay steam Steam road roller like and you say someone got steam rolled like in an argument. Yeah, you got the motor You know like we got what? Where what somebody's a really cool looking Anyway, if steam roller addition. Oh, yeah Poor african villagers was viewed by some to be at best racially insensitive In any case in the time between then and the actual game's release to the expected massive sales and mixed reviews Capcom saw fit to try and mitigate the swirling controversy by offering up as your sidekick for the game's quite by The authenticity of booby bobs supposed empathy towards people Oh, it's ridiculous. I'm pretty sure he read up on how to do it because he wasn't But also I just he just sounds so like his voice just sounds higher pitched and that's an excuse for why he's younger I think I think he recorded it inside of an air conditioner too. So like he's that's where he lives I would account for that, you know I have something to show j Go on what? Oh By offering up as your sidekick for the game's infrequently obnoxious two character Are you two done? Can we go back? Jesus? Try to listen to the fucking moobob Got things to say the swirling controversy by offering up as your sidekick for the game's infrequently obnoxious two character control scheme One shiva a requisite tough shiva All their shiva this fucking plan He's prouder to be an american geek and he calls her shiva terrible like mongoloid one shiva never thought that maybe mob might be an escaped scp foundation guy Like you just like a project to escape it Keep in the facility. So they're like, well, I guess you're sort of harmless You could be mistaken for weirdos off yourself Okay, you may have spawned uh for doing reviews off your body, but uh, I guess you're mostly harmless It's a test for the will they're seeing how long it'll take before anyone notices Uh moobob was a plague of egypt. You just stayed around It ends up in one of the bars just like hey, oh my god ah She was saying shiva my first born not this Creamy shiva Creamy shiva. Oh, I'm fucking creamy and shiva. Oh, no tough girl type dude. Sheva like unironic Is one of the smoking hot gals in video games ever Like holy fuck and they didn't bring it back God damn Oh, and they didn't bring her back. What the fuck she had the accent. She had the looks she had the pew pew She had the fucking tribal costume Jesus Christ So many of my buttons I think if if efab gets big enough we can buy the resident evil ip and we can bring it back If the sheva olamar voice actress is watching this Come on efab and tell us how amazing sheva is Because it's just like a stupid idiot muscle hunk loser Wow a requisite tough girl type of african descent now with the announcement of a female character, of course Comes the inevitable announcement of unlockable costume choices of the cheesecake variety Since after all the only thing gamers love more than a strong woman is a strong woman with a perfect figure in an exhibitionist streak I'm pretty sure the strong woman part is actually necessary Yeah, you have to be strong to like fight if you If you aren't strong and you want to fight you have to come up with alternative methods of carrying that out I'm pretty sure you can put in a attractive female character in there She doesn't have to actually be strong just you know in the outfit and gamers would still be like, okay That's good. Yeah I get to look at this hot chick do stuff. I yeah, I like that. I guess. Yeah, I'm down Gamer gated. Oh my goodness I would watch this movie Let's see what we got. Oh my goodness Jelvin and the chipmunks you'll be jelvin, you know jay jelvin Javin and the chipmunks jay is not reacting jay. What are you doing? You? So Look up the movies so there was alvin and the chipmunks. Oh god 2007 Alvin and the chipmunks chipwrecked There Alvin and the chipmunks the squeak wool Now when I remember wait that wasn't second No, it's weird because chipwrecked came out in No, no the squeakle was 2009. Yeah, so it was alvin and the chipmunks Alvin and the chipmunks the squeakle alvin and the chipmunks chipwrecked chipwrecked and and then there was There's the road chip I'm gonna prove the title the title chipwrecked chipwrecked squeakle Yeah So there's four live action alvin and the chipmunks is what you're saying. I think so. Yeah, do they all star that guy who's like He's not he's like he's like the dad or something. Is he in all of them? It's like there was a marmaduke movie Oh Oh This is a sign that we need to see it rags Huh, George Lopez is in shock boy and lava girl. So that means we have to see it production of Such garbage you can see like stage lighting and shit all the time Oh my goodness, uh rotten tomatoes report that nine percent of the 101 critics gave marmaduke a positive review Oh, that's as glorious audiences gave it a b plus Hey, that's not bad I'm gonna look up. It's actually pretty good. Uh, so let's Really good argument for disparity between audiences and these ivory tower This was back in 2010. So yeah, the the user score is 4.5. The meta score is 30. So that's Marmaduke Anyway, we're inching closer to the to the funny woman is a strong woman with a perfect figure in an exhibitionist streak So then the eventual side of capcom's half-assed. Well, did she didn't have an exhibitionist streak? Is he talking about the The Not canon it is just for like, hey, see a fucking hot lady in a I don't know. Uh, it's not complete in the game. Is it doing something else? Let me see um How do I unlock the long because you get the longbow as well You have to collect all 30 bsaa emblems for her longbow fully upgrade the SR s 75 rifle and it will be up for buy. So the travel costume is 30 emblems So Yeah, did chris have sexy outfits They were all sexy Then the eventual side of capcom's half-assed attempted an affirmative action hire giving way a secret to you and victoria would keep Was to be expected affirmative action Was like I mean the game doesn't portray her particularly bright, but it just Is Yeah, like the idea that I'm sure she was in the game by the time people found out that you were killing um, what did he say? poor Poor African branch of the bsaa, right? Yeah She was in the game to begin with but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I thought the whole point was that Let me go to the let me go to the resident evil wiki um Oh, yeah agent for the bioterrorism security assessment alliance bsaa operating as part of its west african branch Well, yeah, so it yeah It only makes sense And she clearly can handle herself in a fight So it's not an affirmative action hire. So there's still an evil white guy as the villain. Come on. Come on Chris Because Well, it's because they they didn't hire her for her competence You can hire someone through affirmative action and it happens to be that they are competent Well, I would assume that if you're hiring someone through affirmative action, you still take the most Wait, we're talking in-universe or out of universe right now You still take the most competent diverse option you can pick would you Um, I would hope To but I don't know I think I've been a diversity hire Um, because I got a I got a job for a $10 company once and I wasn't done with college Oh, did they see your photoshop skills and they're like this guy? No, I had a 200 subscriber channel Air youtube channel So I'm really convinced I was a You cutting out. Hey you. I know I see it. I don't know why Do it this guy looks like a slightly darker alexander hamilton we should hire him This is what like The evil alexander hamilton would be black hair instant like goatee Goatee Because remember spock from the mirror universe Was was he a person of color? Well, I don't know I guess a vulcan would would have all can be a person. I'm sorry. It's a person of chad. I know that much here here This is the spock from the mirror universe Here, uh, they make a joke about this in community that whenever there's an evil version. They just have a goatee Have a goatee. Yeah You know the the the good version of movie bob from another universe doesn't have the goatee That would make sense Well, yeah, yeah, he's clean-shaven He says a lot of reasonable things very slowly one of reasonable things. Yeah movie bob is the evil movie But so Like evil movie bob would be like maybe we should Take into context everyone's opinions and everyone starts to be respectful of all people around us He's just got this spiffy looking glitter outfit going Is that evil kirk? Is that evil? No, we didn't have a Only one of the evil versions can have the goatee the other one Yeah Yeah, because Maybe his goatee's elsewhere That's like that's just that's an outfit that signals to people Dude, look at the goatee's mirror universe outfit. All right. God. Damn And the more this one of the mirror universe so much All right Universe If you wanted to defeat the the evil version of someone you just have to like hold them down and shave them and they become good But this was supposed to be like a full beard I use That act that lets you like age people and like give them beards and stuff But it comes out with a fucking chin strap instead of a full beard You just added it so that's more of it. Yeah I I don't I don't know how to I don't know that love detailed editing where I can edit in hair Someone in the chat said even the evil versions of women have goatees But where And you have to shave them to save them Good again, uh rhymes and everything What side of the of the buyetti mic is where the it picks up sound? At the same side as the mute button Uh, oh, thank you. Okay. Yeah, that's what I thought Yeah, to stop yourself from cutting out you want to go into user settings Voice and video and you can adjust the level at which it stops picking up your audio Uh, there's an option in there that says random cutoff. You want to have that checked off Untick that box That's the ideal monitors This would be the supposed one woman refutation of resident evil fives racial insensitivity accusations Wearing a leopard skin bikini and that's war paint and the necklace made of bones Dude, so why do you say that that way? The bone one woman refutation. Uh, look look guys. We made this character. Therefore. We're not racist Is that really what the purpose was behind the character? I feel like she was in it before this happened as a controversy So how many people even criticized the movie for being race? I mean the game for being racist Like it did it did come up. I remember seeing it being like wow Got in an image that wasn't 12p Well, this is this is 2010 rags or eight actually I think so The fucking video is 12p. How would you tell? This video would be just a g4k 12p of a 12p. That's right. Do you remember the guy we covered who made a video about? ER'd myself and they had like clips of the shit that you could even read because The resolution was so low you couldn't see it Is moobob making this picture in less than hd because it has a it's exploiting women and he put an hd He would also be exploiting women. So he just made it slightly under 11p if we're going simple explanation here It's just that he's incompetent Yeah, we'd have to assume a lot of competence Is I don't even it's I I guess it's I don't even know But yeah, she's fucking looking great. She's like a boss. Oh Imagine killing the undead in and out feel like that. That's just awesome I'm pretty sure there were no complaints from gamers on this one. Oh, yeah, it wasn't from gamers. It was from game journalists Yeah, game is a racist is the point. So keep games Journalists this image that I actually used Um, you know, like if we do games activists, that's what they should be called This is through a tutorial level Racism and sexism in the gaming community. That's what this image is from apparently This is from August 2016 Oh Wow Wow, wow By the way, the circumcision thing is from Silent Hill not resonant But now we know that No way Circumcision plotline in Silent Hill What I will talk about it later in plotline. What? Learn about it when you're older I just oh guys guys wait wait pause the video someone made uh, uh, someone made a mod for the tribal outfit in oblivion Oh Not the same Our decision here Right around the same time that some British game journalists claim that capcom had tried to impose an embargo on reviews That mentioned both this uh interesting costume and a now infamous section of the game set in that probably would too I probably would too. I'd probably say yeah, like we're gonna give you this review and stuff But if you go if you go fucking harping on about your stupid bullshit Then we're not gonna give you a copy because fuck you talk about the goddamn game Yeah, good. What if they mention all of the game and this ranks? What happens then? I'm gonna give you free game just so you can call it racist and not even play it You can review my game That you can do in races without having me give you a free copy Yeah, I'd be like, yeah You guys are calling our games racist and shit for the dumbest fucking reasons. We're not giving you review copies anymore Fuck you people in fairness, right? If you're shooting very bad zombies, okay What you can do is you can pay us 60 fucking dollars for the game like everybody else and then review it then Can you play the game if you can play if you have a lot of game competency Then you get if you maybe make them earn their free their free copies Like can you get to the tutorial level if you can get a free copy? Oh my god, that would be amazing Like you can't actually have a game until you beat the tutorial Then again, that should just be how games work Like the tutorial guy like if it's the the equivalent of a paper clip in microsoft where it's just watching you fail It's like you can't actually play the game until you do this. You know that, right? Like i'm not gonna let you This door is locked More african zombies, but african zombies wearing grass skirts and throwing spears at you Yeah, yeah Shit, what do you think that tribal people used as weapons spears for a number of reasons? Is he not no tribe tribesmen still exist like they're still around Does he want them to wear also spears? Uh, don't be pretty effective. I'm just gonna put it out there Spears are I'm curious if there would be like is that any more to this than i because i've never played this games Is there like any like is it is it something to do with like none of the other zombies where oh use weapons or anything? Well, this is searching here. This is when you enter into a deeper part of like african, I guess So yeah, so you know there In the game, they're called in the genie Zombie games we have that where we go around shooting white zombies. I mean, there's a lot of them Most of them Village they have like axes and stuff they throw to in molotovs and some of them have dynamite and then later in the game they have guns You know, they used the weapons they would have used when they were alive No, they need to have ray guns. Do you have these weird mercenary zombies that have like ak 74s? Yeah Future tech like they're in Wakanda or something Zombies with ray guns in the final, you know pot, so it's a tribal They use spears because duh Yeah, I mean Aesthetically the what are they having told they have bows and arrows Spears shields a karma. What else there is? Yeah, they've got they've got the the shields. They have spears They have the bows and arrows. They shoot at you And some of them explode I'm fucking explode Would you think the uh, the game journalists would say this game was not racist if they Set a game a zombie game in Africa and had nothing but white zombie. Do you think that would save them? No, they would come up with something they'd say that it's Well, it's it's it's invalidating the voices of african zombies or something. I would go It's more to bet you that they would call it racist not including black zombies Why is this game so afraid to show black zombies exactly that they would say If you go to africa and every everyone's fucking white you'd be like what the fuck is going on here Yeah, but at the same time j if they're all black that means you're shooting black zombies and that's kind of fucked up, isn't it? Yeah What sort of message do we want to send with these resident evil games, you know, it's okay to shoot zombies No too controversial like okay How did these resident evil games help my activism? Zombie's kind of flickered between also. Yeah shield spears straw dresses. What is this Wakanda? It's like, yeah, that's what they do there How come that's okay Yeah, that was supposed to be like The future city buildings had like That grass roofs and stuff like that, but that's okay. That wasn't racist This fucking They gave the skyscrapers in black panther like straw roofs That's the criticism that I made that I got loads of pushback for people like you don't understand culture That was like, I don't think culture means you smash two things together Slate roofs on our skyscrapers UK Yeah, what the fuck that's crazy. What no, I don't believe this. You got to pull this up I'm I'm looking it up. Wait pull. Oh Just go for like Wakanda city or whatever It's to be fair what so in In case you don't have the wrong idea the idea is you have a half of you have like a building that looks normal and futuristic and then Like a stroll Like a bad thing in the side of it Where that shrews that I'm looking at two that shrews in this image There is uh, they're both like one is sort of in the middle just to the right of the middle quite at the back as well And then there's another one to the right and behind that that's got us. They've both got straw like one of the opening shots I'm trying to know And then there's another one with another one to the right of it with another even bigger like straw roof I mean these look like the the like some of them look like the the the birch califa some of them look like the shard like Yeah, but they've got Look at this image. Oh, you just put it up. Okay. Yeah, it was just sanding Yeah There's one like sort of if you look right directly in the middle of the image just to the right Above that there's one with a fat shrew and they're like right like the right most top rightmost building Yeah, the top skyscraper that looks like a fucking bank building the fucking cringiest shit I've ever seen It's like, oh, that's skyscrapers must have straw fucking roofs. Yeah, maybe what fucking just Aliens didn't come and tell them how to build Rest of the building is made of modern materials. What the fuck doesn't make any sense Dude, I bet you I bet you'll get like one person in the comments being like you don't understand This is actually like fat copper wire. It's actually If you if you read the law books, it's actually a very cultural process Not to farm thatch copper wire What if that's to vibranium What happens if there's like a really strong wind could it affect these No, the force field could you have wind inside the bubble? Oh, I guess I don't know if that's wind pass through. I'd hope so They can prevent wind They can keep out the the wind All right And I think someone in chat is pointing out the really big elephant in the room here dirt roads Yeah, oh god Hey guys, you know, it's fucking shit dirt roads Because when it gets dry when it gets dry, they get really really really dusty when it gets wet. They get really muddy You know, Rome nailed this. I'm gonna be honest Like imagine the sewage system that this city clearly doesn't have because They have a fucking high speed train. They have a suit that can yeah, let's make out of wood and bark I would Yeah, it has it has like a a thousand lemurs are on the inside of it running on wheels They have people to put the logs at the front and then catch the ones at the back And that's how they move it through the city Chad has just informed me that it's vibranium mud Reference what like I want to know where they went in Africa Africa Well that This is like shit the film was given like appreciation that grooves Um, and then they fucking saw all the grounds dirt. Uh, so in Africa the ground is made of dirt I'm Moroccan I'm part Moroccan like Morocco is nothing like Ghana. Oh first you're not white now you're Moroccan Yeah, make up your mind. Wow I'm part Moroccan. I don't realize will you deliver on this podcast? You tell me you weren't a president from the mirror universe So like For buildings are like pretty cool. So like just remove all the fucking dumb shit and you've got a pretty cool city That's like influence. Yeah, look like In the world it looks like it's own culture a lot of circle a lot of circular architecture a lot of trees reds yellows greens Like it looks like a place with a really rich culture Well, this looks like a this looks like a city that they've just not kept up with for 30 years. It looks pretty musty, doesn't it? It looks like If they hadn't kept up with it for 30 years the fucking skyscrapers wouldn't have They get blown off. Yeah It's like random trees and dirt roads just sort of unkempt and they're just walking around I've seen the criticism that um, the point is that it's starting to fall apart because they've stuck to themselves for so long But I just like the idea that the people who made this thought like this is awesome We nailed it like this is how it would look and then someone else is like, oh, I thought you were trying to say it was all broken down Okay No, they didn't think it was awesome. Like, you know So it's so it's it's all broken down. So the concrete from the roads removed the removed itself Oh, yeah, well, no, you see themselves. Well, the roads are explained Once all the concrete In the asphalt and stuff of the roads It started to get really shitty. So they just said fuck it rip it all up so it matches Let it all break down because the condit didn't open itself up to white people and they all just been keeping to the cell That's why it's all broken down. I don't think that's something we've been going for It's awesome and I like it's so no one looks at that and it's like hey, this is actually about nationalism and and like uh an ethno state and How how great society would be if there was an ethno state? like Is anyone to me that Maybe it's just a superhero movie So anyway, well, we're always going to like movies can have ideas but Black panther is kind of jumbled jumbled for sure A fucking superhero movie that discusses nationalism in depth I mean at this point. Yeah, but like, okay. What is that concept called? Uh, where people are clearly speaking a different language But the movie is presented in like english or whatever the language of the target audience would be what it would That's just translation convention, right? Hmm Well, so in Wakanda they speak english, but they were never colonized and it's not like It's it's translation convention because they go to other places and speak fucking like korean And sometimes they speak to each other in ising hosa and um, like why are they speaking english if they were never calling? It's makes me know Okay, and the mcu the fucking alien speak english as well So I would say there is a big Interesting English Yeah, but I would hold that the alien speak english at all because it shows in guardians of the galaxy one that um Aliens have translated so has a translator device in his in his ear well I mean We don't know that as god do the exact same thing as like ever I would say still like if we were to uh say like it doesn't the aliens don't so fuck it I'd be like wow, I mean, you know Like just because the aliens all speak english doesn't mean we should have every country on earth speak english like that And that's clearly not what they do on the mcu I was from a world building stamp actually like I guess it could make sense for Wakanda to have the uh The universal translators like they've invented their own But they don't they actively speak multiple languages like when they don't want people to understand them They speak easy hosa and when they like go to korea they speak korean But when they're alone among themselves, they're speaking english Then universal translators they can't understand how to Maybe the history of the mcu is the england colonized the entire world and then they got everything taken from them Like really early on stone age like around then Maybe they were just like oh, I'll I wish so let's start speaking english I Like there's even characters in in parts where they don't speak english at all. They only speak easy hosa and it's like pure subtitles Yeah, weird Yeah Come what the fuck is wrong with you, you know Yeah, I feel like we need to go back and get some Because we like I like that we really need to know the context. No, why did you skip? I like that he said, um What the fuck is wrong with you that cuts on this image that it said no Don't judge Don't judge okay capcom. Oh wait, let's go back. Uh like Village where you fight not only more african zombies, but african zombies wearing grass I like that he says not only african zombies in africa Where there's a zombie outbreak as if that's a problem like yeah, that's bad enough How do you the blacks would never fall for these kind of shenanigans? I want I want to hear him complete the statement all right escorts and throwing spears at you really Capcom What the fuck is wrong with you? You know me and a lot of other gamers went to the fucking map for you on this one Don't judge it yet. We said wait and see we cried Context we have context justifies it entirely It literally does yeah It's a tribal african village that is that gets infected by the plagues in fact Aren't they deliberately infecting places that they know it'll spread fast because thus like they're experimenting and shit But but that it won't spread beyond the population. I imagine like I can't remember west because overall plan is to send it into the whole world right and this was like a testing ground I think I don't know. I've never played it again. It is pathetic to think that that's racist It's a weird conclusion to come to I would say it's like To conclude this is racist you sort of have to have like an interview of creators going Yeah, we wanted to shoot black people this time So Even if though you feel like well, they've shot a lot of white people So it's about time that black people got some representation in the zombie crew, you know like It shows that movie bob is ignorant as fuck the calitarian You first you got to shoot white zombies now you get to shoot zombies of other ethnic backgrounds No, but he's saying okay, so he's saying oh these people that are in africa Are not living like europeans Like they're being depicted like i don't know like tribal fucking africa I understand that he does it they just not know that tribe still exists like tribesmen still exist and they're actually pretty cool Their culture is actually pretty cool insult or anything Um, why did they spell ray wrong in this meme it fucks the whole thing up rags. What do we do? Yeah, I think they just you know, I think a lot of people hear it more than they see it Unless is it a reference to ray romano and he can punch bill boulders I mean he's like a mammoth, right? Yeah That's a lot of references in a row anyway And then this really any cheese guys yikes So yeah settled you have no you haven't made an argument You just you just said No, no, it's settled. It's settled. It just works All right, well, if anything it shows that this dude's a super imperialist Yeah, these all of these tribal african dudes who got infected. They should have just pulled out glocks and mp5's and started spraying away Underneath her grass skirts. Why are they not wearing fucking suits? I would be very curious to ask him what his proposed solution would be would it be don't serve it in africa Make the african people like go to a different place in africa so that it's like not tribal You know, obviously africans All the african zombies are very friendly. They're like hey, how you doing? Okay, so we're gonna eat your flesh Unless you don't you're not okay with that What does he what does he want a different part of africa so that it is somewhere that's being like uh You know somewhere that's closer to what we would recognize uh here What what does he want? I'm really curious. Is that one of chris's out first for that game? I think it's probably a mod There's a lot of mods for this game No, hey, like that that's just that is gay with the nips and everything Yeah Dude, you don't think if they didn't portray the african tribesmen as tribesmen that the same dude wouldn't be like They should have portrayed them as tribesmen. This is imperialist. Well, they portray him as kind of OP Yeah, I mean they were annoying as fuck. Oh, yeah, like they're like the fact that they give any resistance whatsoever You know, it means they're you're they're pretty overpowered like their shield Their wooden shields can stop a lot of bullets and they have powerful attacks and things of that nature And they have like access to petrochemical technology in the in the form of exploding things also, you know Flaming balls and traps and laser underground cities and crazy shit like a lot of people are saying that's a real outfit By the way, not a mod one Oh, wow Wow I like how it's so low-residious so good This is really good because I'm European and therefore a white person. Oh dirt is made of ice cream Nailed it. I just laughed like a fucking girl Oh Packed with ludicrously dated racial stereotypes doesn't like what what do you mean? Like what also this is from this doesn't happen in the game Oh my god, this this wait this pot might happen in the game. We you have to um How is this racial stereotypes if you stick around in the opening battle you get like a whole crowd after you No, the way that they move around and the emotions they're making And also this is from the very opening area Remember we commented on that weird just back alley that had nothing in it that they just had in the game That's what this is Are the are the resident evil zombies sentient enough to utilize their shields or do you Are they just yeah happen? Yeah, they're so in Resident Evil 4 they're they're ganados and this one they're majini, but they're infected by las plagas Yes, and so they're not like stupid zombies. They could still sort of like operate in society What's interesting is like society the bosses Are often people who inject themselves with it and they like could even speak to you sometimes sometimes Like wesker is uh, the idea is like depending on your dna. You'll be able to Overcome the virus and sort of use it to your benefit or not. I think Which is which is uh, obviously racist because you know And doesn't make it evil Probably does mean that the cause of gaming being taken seriously as an art form is set back another 30 to 50 steps I don't see how people Like people thought that this set back gaming because it wasn't very good I guess gaming was was on its way and then resi will five fucked over the nut I'm like you still have to How many steps Bob measured it in steps too. I don't understand that as a unit of measurement like oh The cause of making the games a respectable art form like how many steps 30 to 50 steps Like usually it's like 30 or 30 years or 10 years. We said he said it's back 10 years But with movie bob a long time to him is measured out 30 steps ago. I was just How many things that is the goal? I don't I don't understand Oh Going back to the 1950s as darkness just said capcom kept us from living on mars. Damn it Well, let's follow Right now I'm assuming blue bob takes like one step a year. How many steps until mars three So a long time well technically you could step once and if you aim it right you can get there. Yeah How is that? Well, you just like like you're in orbit around earth right a long man. Yeah, and you just you step off Step off at just the right. You got to be really precise And you'll float all the way to mars. Oh, I hit play balls. I know the screen says racism I personally could uh could take a step that takes me off the planet Because you need surgery for your feet. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's it. That's what's stopping you. You're almost there I am however now fully convinced that the problem here is not and never was racism It's actually worse than worse. Oh, no worse than race it's literally not possible What could be worse than races It's worse there are like so many emotions right now. Yeah all this time you thought racism was a bad part But it isn't racism. It's worse than racism. Nothing can be worse than racism racism. Have you pretty hyped so Remember, this is a 10 year old video. So things were still worse than racism Still some stuff was yeah What was worse than racism back then? Is it racism too? Like sexism? I don't know like it could be. I don't know where he's going with this Racism it's just racism too. Rapesism. Oh my god. We know It's a philosophy centered around rape I'm trying to figure out what he could possibly follow up this way. I think it's like, yeah What what could he possibly say that's worse than racism that could be the cause of that? You can see like Holy shit, I don't see Especially back then I think sexism was the big thing. This was when the whole new feminism stuff was really kind of hitting its stride But how is this gonna I'm imagining the world where he says I think this would I think I don't think this is racism I think this was something worse. I think it was just laziness on the part of Lefty twitter is like nothing's worse than racism. Well, you think a lot of people for being lazy It hasn't looned that yet Rags, you know what I'm gonna say. I think racism is worse than laziness. No I'm saying you're right though Video games not not in making of video games Movie Bob really consider laziness a bad thing though. I thought you thought It's a bitch the virtue of laziness. He's like, what do you mean sloth is a deadly sin? I haven't died yet. So it can't be deadly sin. Yeah, that's bullshit. All right, let's find out. I'm excited Racism is an activity of the conscious mind a belief hand or viewpoint that can be No, I think It's a very big claim and I don't think you realize Yeah, you could be subconsciously racist I think it's I think it's proven that people are like subconsciously racist to some degree Just because of how our brains work that setup though, whatever he's going to Whatever he's picking as the true problem is is gonna be like in opposition to that statement. I guess like This is something you consciously do. So what's worse is the unconscious. I'm guessing I don't know I was trying to move into it. We were really really like them want to make movement to junk in psychology. I don't think so Come on Point that can be changed and debated This this points to something more deeply wrong and harder to fix in the psyche of waving And in the psyche of the world surrounding it, which is I want to digress here for a minute, but whoa Oh That's movie of ob-spirit animal Again, we still haven't gotten an explanation as to why that fucking awesome tribal cheva outfit is so horrible He's jumping into psychology and then he's going to digress. Where are you going to go now? There's going to bring this back to psychology sociology. We are getting close to the quote Is the what is the context of her outfit because that is pretty stupid like the fucking tribal Oh, yeah, it makes no sense. Absolutely. I love it. Yeah, it's not supposed to make sense. It's a bonus costume Yeah, it's a bonus unlockable Jay, look at the fucking chris one. Do you think that's practical? Yeah, you road warrior chris. Yeah, like people get dressed every day. Do you think that people think like Yeah, I was thinking that that was like her outfit in the game and I'm like no guys like Are you guys saying no, no, no, that's not her outfit and that's I was like, I feel like that might actually be a little bit The game is a fucking stupid tribal bikini with tea like This is the uniform from the the west african branch of the bs a a Everyone wears them even the guys and the guys have the leopards bras Like a cemetery outfit It's uh, it's the uniform uniform you're forced to wear if you're black in this People have to wear suit and ties Stereotype outfit in this organization. What is the racial stereotype out for for a white person? It's tennis All the white people have to wear like tennis gear based uniform tennis gear American white they would wear camo all the time. Yeah, there we go. That's it overalls To be fair, they probably do have to work There you go We're thinking you wear you just wear like a poncho and a sombera Braggs, would you wear that outfit with your teeth and everything? Oh, fuck. Yes. I would um wait, but jay So what is your problem? If if it was like a default outfit, what would be your problem with it? Well, it's like I wouldn't know her like if it was justified by the story It's like that's what she as a character would wear then sure But I I feel like I find it difficult to envision a character who would wear that Like it feels like a contrived thing Yeah, if if cheva olomar was if if the game was totally the same, but that was her default normal outfit I would be like this makes no fucking sense. This is extremely silly and nonsensical Opening scene. She's like, I like to wear this. I like living on it Yeah, I feel like She looks bad like in it She looks bad She looks bad Like bad isn't like attractive That bitch. Oh bad is in attractive. What do you mean? Well, since when do you How does this look on me? Oh, you look bad, but I mean that and like attractive It's obviously racist thing you when you refer to an attractive a woman of color you don't have to call her bad Can't oh, yeah. Well, just don't call her bossy Okay. Oh, yeah, you can't you can't say the word boss. I think they banned that Because he's going strong in the end when we can't handle the word boss Like it shatters your mind for some Did that really go that far? Bossy. Yeah, that's like that that that was like that was a thing for a while. They've been in a long time ago Yeah, you can't call women bossy a strong independent woman When the upon hearing the word bossy Well, they must not be that strong then That's bigotry So we're going back to bobo capital the overcaffeinated chipmunk. So this um this section It's it might be worth just letting it play and saving your reaction until I hit pause All right, you ready? You ready? Hello? Wait, everyone's just like cut off Hello Hello, hi Like I said, so You're okay. Yeah, I'm fine It just cut off for me. I saw green circles with no sound. It was scary. I thought I was alone I'm gonna I'm gonna let it play until 314 I guess maybe we'll pause before and I don't know we'll just you know what whatever happens happens Don't worry. There is a point. I think anyway when I was a boy I remember a certain book making an odd impression on me. I'm less than certain of the name I want to say it was called space station seventh grade, but it might not have been anyway The reason I made such an impression was largely because I was always surprised to find a coming of age book That was actually for boys. See I'd inherited most of my age appropriate reading material from an older female cousin So let's just say a lot of it was tipped in a rather specific direction So just pause there. He's saying He got he had a lot of Uncovered a lot of answers here Judy bloom. He read he grew up on Judy bloom interesting We're learning about about him specifically. Yeah, he read all this as he was growing up But when he was writing the script, he thought wait, maybe this sounds lame I will now Put a pot in this video that can Make it look a bit more chatty that I that I read these because of what it can do for me All right, and I just don't think you'd see movibob say this ever ever again, but he I'm pretty sure if movibob had the capacity of looking at his own scripts and saying wow, this sounds lame He would never make a video Well, he had to he had to compensate with this. Are you ready for him to compensate? Are you ready? Oh boy, here we go. Not that it was all that bad I mean, in fact, I can offer with some experience that a teenage boy who's looking for ways to relate to girls his own age Might find a working familiarity with the complete works of judy bloom to be very very very very very helpful I like the last image is him Only It's like a spider giving it This shows a lot of a movibob psychology. I'm pretty sure one of them is lindsay ellison 10 years ago lindsay ellison still He's but he's giving away that he is like super into voyeurism like that that he sees Pinnacle of chad hood because you put this at the end There's an escalation to it. It was an escalation. Yeah, okay I don't I don't consider watching two girls have sex without me an escalation of me That's the point he does No, I don't I don't think he necessarily does I Right, look at the pictures, right? He's he's walking to gill who's crying Girls are crying because that's what girls do sad like offering to be like hey, I'm here Yeah Missionary, okay He's moved on to fucking her mom Are the two girls, oh shit, they're giving him a hand job. There's movibob right there. Two girls giving him a hand job It's like lindsay ellison with two movibob is on the other side It's it's clearly he's clearly gunning for escalation here. Very helpful And then this is like But two girls with me is no, no, I know I he's got an interesting That's kind of the point is it's interesting how he treats the hierarchy of like uh Experiences I I think that's possible, but I still need more. I I still don't feel like I need more Well, because if you remember the way he speaks as well, he says really really really like like oh, this is getting Oh Drawing of him having a threesome with these two women It's only the pinnacle of what I could want after sex and after having my arms around two women Is for them to have sex with each other and me to watch and record it Is I assume he didn't have a threesome when he was like in high school or whatever. He's never movibob is a virgin obviously He's a super virgin Is this old stuff flat out lie or did he like touch a boob? I hope he's lying about fucking 13 year olds Oh, yeah, those fucking books they love to touch that Because judy bloom novels are meant for like 12 year olds. Well, he was reading them when he was of age, uh of legal age I'm sure he went when you're 13. It's not a bad fucking 13 year old I mean technically sure I guess Someone in the chat pointed out that the two women kind of looks like the thing monster from the thing Oh, no movibob, no I've been sent this He's he's like clearly showing off that he is a cuck. He's into watching like wait wait a cuck His girlfriend. Yeah, dude. He's not a cuck. He's just I I don't know about cuck. You'll have to walk me through that one Okay, so hold on. Okay. I got you. So if someone else fucks your girlfriend in front of you. Are you a cuck? That depends, uh, if you're getting sexual pleasure from it, then yes, he seems to be But I was no one of these no one of these girls has to be his girlfriend Not just someone he fucks and that would be the assumption made I suppose Well, he started with one girl and then got the second one and he went through that whole thing So they're both so they're both his girlfriends So I feel like that adds a new dynamic to things if they're both his girlfriend That's just like a threesome that he's that he has stepped away from temporarily to watch and record I but he it never showed him being in the threesome So we have to assume that all he did was have his arms around them and then watch this other girl Fuck his girlfriend in front of him and he records the rats are trying to help him out. Okay Help Bob. I What? You're trying to help Bob out. You're gonna make it look a little better that it might look Maybe I'm not convinced of kukery here I got it because the the personal dynamic of the pinks and the whites here are really really important for that The pinks and the whites the pinks and the whites the two genders I think he's a cuck now If another man fucks your girlfriend No, no, no, no, kukoldry. I think implies that you are not attracted to both the people That you are like watching have sex. I think if you are watching people that you like If you're getting off on just watching them having sex with each other Like I don't think that's because that's what people do literally all that's porn Yeah, you getting off of watching two people fuck is just pornography Yeah, most of the cum that is spilled in the world is because of that There are some people who are lean right or so on the political spectrum that do argue that watching pornography is actually Yeah, well those people are dumb. Yeah For it to be for it to be cucking. I think you have to be in a Ship a close relationship with one of the people involved And you have to gain sexual gratification From either watching them or knowing that they are being fucked by somebody else that you are not in a relationship with because Because then that would make every polyamorous relationship Almost essentially cucking. I think I think it also has to do with like the actual like the nature of the the pleasure you take from it Yes, like so if you are watching even if you're watching your partner have sex with someone else If you're just watching that as like a performance that they're putting on for you Then I don't think that's kukoldry. I think that's just polyamory. Yeah, and I feel like yeah I think it's more complicated than just watching Two people have sex and getting pleasure from it Kukoldry has more to do with the idea that like you are being degraded by the act of them having sex with someone else It's very specific, right? Yeah There there's definitely that mental aspect and there's this dynamic of I guess giving up Like sacrificing your own pleasure in that Normal way so that someone else could have it and you can get that degradation from it It's like it's like domination. It's like it's it's like being dominated, but kind of yeah It's it's off-hand domination Secondhand domination if you if you're there like and you are very much in control of the situation and like you're And like you're telling your partner what you want them to do to someone else. You are not being cucks Yeah, like you have to be in a position and power in the situation. Yeah Like if you're the dominant one you have to get off from the idea that you've given up power and control And It was important that we Confused getting cheated on with cuckoldry all the time Like if someone cheats on you like that makes you a cuck because like no not in any modern context Yeah, I always thought that you had to be like there and I thought I thought I thought that was the original meaning of cuck It was originally. Yeah, because enough. Hello. That's like, um Yeah, be like Yeah, if it's consensual and like that's what you get off on then that's uh Who could have ever seen Who could have ever seen that a uh, that movibob would spark a uh impromptu conversation on cuckoldry I think anyone could At the very least it's voyeurism at the very oh for sure Um, for sure. Well, I think Okay, if we're gonna say that it's cuckoldry you would need more context. You would need we need more details Bob didn't provide enough with his stick man Deeper the details. We gotta know if it's classified as cult cuckoldry or not. Okay either way, um This this funny that that's what happens to us with watching this But what'll happen to the people who like are on his team watching this? I feel like they'll be very upset that he was like Everyone everyone it's movibob People on his team Um, and I don't know if they know each other they just seem to agree on a lot of stuff That that's why quintin butted off of him because just like quintin reviews. Nobody respects movibob Does patrick williams still respect him? Yeah, I feel like patrick would not be happy Williams respects him. Yeah, so um patrick williams that are really pretentious. Well, don't you not respect patrick williams like youtube critics don't matter Patrick williams actually respect anyone who isn't patrick williams So patrick williams made a really pretentious seems like it youtube critics aren't valuable and don't matter And in that he said except bob chipman bob chipman is great And he basically just makes traditional reviews but puts them on youtube So they're fine and you're like why have all the creators to single out is it me wait seriously that he did Oh my god He said only bob chipman makes traditional reviews only bob he said he didn't say only he said He's like making a huge general except for bob chipman And then he says except bob chipman So Yeah, patrick williams endorses movibob Bob and you could play this clip to be like he endorses this Um, I want to see I want to see if he's uh, if he's said anything about movibob more recently I'm gonna use the twitter secret trick. I showed you more. Oh my god. Remember that you remember that, right? I do Yeah, you're gonna try and remember that because it's so useful from you say from or something. It's it's neat But I just I'm curious what the reaction from all the people bob would like would would think of this this assessment right here Because I just feel like this is this they would absolutely characterize this as objectification, you know To be upset he's using his books to get them in bed. It's not it's not objectification. It's more Um objectification is the uh, it would be the like Actually, no, it might be I don't know. I think I think it might qualify because he basically said like Hey, reading the books might be lame, but it got me good to get women in bed. It's like, oh, but it didn't Well I guess it would be dehumanizing would be the complaint because I was thinking of like objective Objectification only applying in like media But I don't think that's true But the point is this is what he fantasized about when he was a kid reading those books because none of this actually happened So this is what he wished that growing up reading those books got him I yeah, it's really really really weird. I read Judy bloom because I could you know A a good it's not even I read them because of that It's I got Judy bloom books as a kid and read those and a in a Good side effect of those is that I could use them to fuck chicks But the kind of chicks that you're boning because of Judy bloom novels like Yeah, it's not like yeah, this is yeah, I fucking read one fish two fish red fish blue fish to fucking this broad You know, and you're like, whoa All the fishes And that was it by the way, that's all I wanted to show you in that video What uh, yeah, I don't really want to watch the rest of that movie about video myself so I was going for um Hang on but it makes you wonder it came up as a sort of tangent from no, this is important Oh But how is that relevant? You interrupted me to say you need time to get the thing. Fuck you. So I don't even good. It's Wow, I believe it was I just saw I was looking for tweets about movie book from Patrick Willems and one of the most recent ones was just It says from Patrick Willems. Maybe you're just bad and dumb And the tweet that it's in response to has been deleted. So I was like, hang on Is he replying to movie pop here, but he wasn't I don't think it's possible, you know um Yeah, he was he was like it's the problem with uh capcom isn't racism. It's oh let me go on a tangent Uh, this happens and you're like wait. Yeah, we never found out. What is the problem? I guess we'll we'll continue the video until he makes that point By the way, I got fucking heck of laid when I was 13 He needed to throw that in okay I don't believe you No, it's not a believable thing must be fair. Um, that's all he had to let us know for some reason because What a strange tangent Like what are you trying to like what's what's the point of that? What's the point of the lie? Well, he got laid when he had he's had sex with a lot of 13 year old I used judy bloom to get laid when I was 13 with other 13 year old girls like And so anyway, that's why capcom is racist It all follows that's not a boast No You'd see the image of him on the camera, right? Um So the thing that's behind him looks like it's supposed to be his leg doesn't look like a leg at all I see I see it as like Both of his legs. He's just in a squatting position. It's his tail. That's a long Fish Yeah That's what it looks like I think he's like a lemur. He's got a tail I mean, this is a tangent in the video, but he spent time drawing these he did He really did There is more editing and you know what there is in the rest of the video It does look like a tail it does look like a lemur tail. Yeah, because it's like dragon behind him Yeah, unless it's just broken and he's hauling it behind him Or it's his dick and he's trying to say he's got an enormous penis And that's really why Well, no, it's so long. It's he's he's he's had so much sex with these 13 That is just soft and limp and it just needs time to catch its breath. So it's dragon behind him Wait, did he say this is 13? Well, I mean, it's an implication that I pick up from the judy bloom novels to get laid Because these are like kids books Well, it's okay. So but then he would also be 13 Yeah, it's not like as bad as it could be Just a weird thing just a weird thing to brag about You are not morally in the wrong for having sex with someone of the age that you are when you're like too young to have sex Because that's you know, if you're going to make the rape argument, you raped each other I mean, yeah Is anyone ever making that Ever I don't know. I don't know. It's like Under I've never heard that both parties are underage is still really fucking dodgy It's just it's not the same as an adult doing. Yeah, I've never heard that I've never heard anyone say It's normal For two 13 year old stuff. I mean, maybe no not 13, but like under 18 like 15 16 or 17. Yeah, that age is normal So Where you're allowed to have sex with people when you're 14 Is it 14? I thought it was 15. Holy shit 14 is the age of consent in germany, but it's I don't I don't stay on top of this It's without the 14 year olds. Well, I knew it because I was Blair Oh, wow Because he had to read up to the exercise this No There's laws like that here in the u.s. Where if you're if you're both really young Then I was literally about to say that. Do you know about the Romeo and Juliet laws? I've seen transformers What? Yeah, it's in transformers. There's a and one of the Michael Bay transformers films the uh The like there's a male and female lead And the dude is like 19 or something and the girl is 17 Um, which is like seems like a really strange creative decision, right? Yeah, I'm gonna make your fucking wait You you cut her second. What it seems like a really weird creative decision just to make all the hot girl in this movie Is gonna be underage specifically. That was what that was the part I missed. I heard all of it I didn't age is the protagonist's work. Oh, it's 17 and 19. I think I don't actually know the specifics, but like I thought it was an age. Which which movie is this? Uh, because shiella buff was in high school. It's the one. No, it's not. It's the one after shiella buff leaves Isn't mark. I don't want to bumble me one. Walbert the lead. Oh, yeah, the mark walbert ones exist is mark walbert 19 Holy shit 19. I keep well, I shouldn't say that But yeah, it's like um It's yeah, he carries around a card with the Romeo and Juliet laws on it saying why he can bang the 17 year old Walbert. Yeah, but 17 is 17 is the age of consent No, it's not I don't know. She's under the age of consent It's 18. It's not. Oh, I don't know. I I I've always assumed it's 18 No, it's 18 to like post it online and stuff, but to actually fuck some of the age of consent Well, no, because you said 18 And 18 is why the like why on the internet you can't you have to be 18 years old To like post pictures of yourself or else it's underage, but that's really fucked up. That's where it went for you Well, you you brought up 18 as the age of consent, which is yeah, because I'm just thinking of like A person having sex with someone. I'm not thinking of like only and I'm not saying that's a problem. You're I wasn't thinking about Yeah, I'm saying it's a problem with society Well, isn't the one of the things that can happen is like you could post when it's legal, but then No way like if you post yourself at underage and then you Grow a year then you have technically got cp on your Like that's how that like you can get in trouble for that, right? Yeah, let me give off. What really? Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can fuck yourself over hardcore with that law-wise like That's horrible and I wonder if it would apply literally like by a day if you know what I mean I yeah, I know what you don't buy a day, but I don't I mean like who's who's looking Oh, well, I think it's just a possibility. I don't know if anyone's actually had it happen to them Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, can we check if that's ever happened? You can I feel like it's probably happened at least once somewhere. Yeah, surely with all the all the times surely it has happened so my understanding is Like if you are an adult if you are over the age of 18 at least in the united states You have to like you can't have sex with someone that's under the age of 18 except for in the Romeo and Juliet laws where if you're under 22, no, you but let's say you're like 25 No, like already so 16 is the common age of consent to have sex with someone really Yes, don't you need like a parents? Is that a true one because there are some places where it might not be 16, but I think most commonly federally Let's talk federal Um, I don't know if it's federal. It might be state. Um If you're saying it's place to place it can't be federal what I say commonly so I didn't raise like I said commonly say this 16 Yeah, I say this because like a lot of people like make youtube videos about these like zoomer kids to like 19 Years old and they're like, oh, he's a pedophile because he had sex with a 17 year older Not even had sex like it was texting a 17 year old. He's grooming her or some shit and he's like 20 years old Yeah, it's it's the online component that changes the whole dynamic Which is weird But that is that is how the legality of it works Which is why you're saying you can't have pictures of a naked 17 year old Okay, but you can forget about pictures. I'm I'm literally just talking about physical intercourse between two people Why is the conversation right? That's like a 25 year old man Can legal or 25 year old woman can legally have sex with 17 year old child If the age of consent is 16, I think so Holy, I think so, but I'm not sure Then a lot of these youtube people that make a living off of calling people pedophiles Uh, hopefully they'll they'll take a hit if they learn that Well, yeah, like people get called pedophiles and racist and sexist and homo bigot All that stuff all the time and it's bullshit, but we just sort of let people get away with it Yeah, I hate that there's an industry around specifically calling Like youtubers pedophiles. There's a full industry around that And that's very bad. Yeah, I mean So anyway, I was interested in knowing What do you mean The image by the way, thank you capital O So now we get to play is the stream getting monetized. Um, assuming not but I'm uh, like the whole thing Not as a default is um, is how this relates to capcom. That's what I want to know Really quick I would like to point out That given how minimal the editing was for the rest of the video The fact that this tangent is like so heavily edited means like this was the thing He was primarily concerned with Like he spent more time Trying to flex About how judy bloom novels. It's an odd flex. It's an odd one. Do you know it's a point by the way? Well, because there's the straight lines there. Can you straight lines in pain? I can't remember Yeah, I think yeah, of course. Yeah, of course Yeah, he started in by filling it black and then he used the colors on top of it. Yeah They're clearly in the base because you have your tools so you can draw lines Imagine moob up his face as he drew all these uh pictures panel by panel. He was cooming I think so too He got biting his lower lip and sweating confused. No, yeah In any case at one point in this book the hero of vaguely dweeby white suburban kid living in then present 1982 Wonders without a hint of irony why his various black and Asian friends Bother dressing up in costumes on halloween sense in his words. They already are something That's an extremely interesting character. I would be That's really weird. He already awesome It's it's an extremely Would dweeby character in this book he read. Yeah The for halloween he saw his his uh his friends being um asian or black, I guess as they don't need to dress up because they already are something Which I guess is really weird. That's not that's sort of something you sit down with someone and say, okay. Wow, but like I don't know. I think it's kind of okay. Wow level Yeah, I guess if it because if it's coming from a really sheltered dweeby Kid who'd has no exposure to things. I could see them maybe thinking that Well, if it's coming from like someone who's just uh never like experienced the world kind of thing It's like, okay. We okay timmy. We need to sit you down and talk to you about what race Yeah, I don't I don't think that's coming from a place of malice Yeah, but it's still like no definitely not it's clear it looked like the kids were super young Well, I guess you can say that from a place of malice, but uh, you could but I don't It also sounds like something that comes out of a place of ignorance where someone just needs to be Oh, yeah, definitely ignorance. Yeah, understand the world and that's what kids Yeah Racist shit as a child. Just because oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, actually, I don't know I I don't know my my best friend growing up was half black and half asian Yes, I don't know what they do for halloween I I guess I don't know how to even like differentiate it from everyone else. We just did halloween stuff. I guess eight candy and trigger treated In other terms to him a black guy dressing up as a vampire makes as much sense as a vampire dressing up as anything It's a quaintly true image. Why is that it's a quaintly true image? It's literally the first it's words. I've never heard of someone saying something. I've never heard of that ever Why can't why can't black people dress up as vampires for halloween or something? I bet like all the kids who read that are like, that's fucking weird Also, why can't a vampire dress up as a werewolf halloween? Yeah He's a vampire all the rest of the year Yeah Also, yeah, if a vampire can't celebrate halloween, who the fuck can So is this white people when spot gains like incredible size and he's trying like the government is gonna take him down Is this great sport? I'm not sure which of the spots this is This is this is sport mind from halo All of the sports that we've drawn have reached critical mass. They've formed together and become sentient and Like you you see, he's even got the tendrils on his head. Yeah Yeah, his wonderful head of hair. This sport has become a monument to all of our sins Did he like metal would like high juice spot? Metal would like this part. I feel like it fits metals aesthetic Yeah, metal would like this. That's true Yeah, bringing it and bringing up the thing seemed to be literally a tangent. He just wanted to mention it Because he's now weird you want to toss that Peculiar boast yet alas. I am he wanted to find he wanted to talk about that. So he crafted a video around it That's why he hasn't explained anything about resin evil. He's just said it's racist Yeah Like so, you know, he has enough self-awareness to know that he's speaking of judy bloom when I was 13 I got mad purse. That's the video Also resin evil. It's like, okay I don't know if I if I was 13 and I was having sex with 13 year olds I don't know how I would look back on that and process it Well, like as an adult, you don't know how yeah, like looking back on it Yeah, just be like a really weird thing that I did now that I'm an adult looking back on it Maybe we can just bob Common among us young white boys back then but looking back on it now. I think it's a lot more. That's monolithic white boys Yes, it was a common though I I sure was common among amongst white boys in general or is it just common amongst him and his friends? Because I legit like I like this would have this sound even a 12 year old to me would find of his commentary Bizarre If you like you can dress up as a vampire a werewolf a ghost a black person like which of these things you want to be I'd be like what the fuck did you throw that forth with it? Therefore? But no, uh, yeah bob and his friends they they were just like, yeah, you know what that's true Or rather See the rest of the world people are like, where's the screen? You you miss nothing. Don't panic people So wait, what why is the screen changed? Why is it slightly zoomed in? Oh, I know why Let me explain something about white people. Oh, no Kkk and I'm like, okay like already calm the fuck down. I feel like you may be in trouble here Like the kkk and white people are just the same thing Well, they wear white rags. Come on Neighbor difference Not even one That is pretty funny Okay, okay. I'm gonna say the kkk Uh, I'm not impressed impressed oppressed in ways that are wrong, right? People who actually believe they're being oppressed. I mean, yeah, you could argue they are being oppressed Yeah, like yeah Something should be oppressed. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, but uh, yeah so the thing is let's say, uh, bob is saying like He's clearly implying that they think they're being oppressed unjustly, right, you know, he's implying Because they are being oppressed in for good reason So let's say that bob is only referring to like on things that are unjust oppression He's saying wow, these people actually think they're being oppressed um You know that they're not but he hasn't demonstrated at all. He's just shown a fucking picture Yeah, like we we all can this image generally image that this isn't happening Well, if I have someone from the kkk coming up to me and saying because I'm one of his people I guess or something and he comes up to me and he likes I'm a dog. Never mind It comes up to my person and they engage in a discussion I'm just here. I'm just to hear at a third party listening to this conversation take place like I don't know I would be curious to hear a kkk person try and explain to me how they have become convinced of this Hang on. Hang on. They burn like crosses at kkk rallies, right? That's a thing. Yeah, I guess not every one This is a cross with just a little lights on it. Look, well, if you don't want to burn through cross Well, I mean literally you don't want to burn through all your crosses like you're gonna buy across every time It's the thought that counts j. It's the thought that counts I love the idea that like some fucking some fucking white supremacist came up to the this meetings like Guys, I figured out a way that we don't have to get through so many crosses and they're like, huh? What scratching their heads? A plugs in the cross A plugs in the cross And it just glows. He's like But I love to open on smoke, Clam The grand dragon comes by like hey, there's a regulation That's fucking cool the shit though that they have a title called grand dragon Yeah, I can't sidecloth Appropriate that shit Take it away grand dragon I want to be a grand dragon. That sounds badass Grand wizard to you. I'm not think the skatelies have got it now Grand dragon. I bet they all think they're the grand dragon. It's not the same I think they call it the grand dragon cock Well, I I if you can just call yourself a grand dragon. It doesn't really mean anything You have to get other people to agree that you are the grand dragon. That's a good point And someone pointed out the kkk do wear masks so we could appreciate that at least Why'd you mean you know just in relation to the covid times they don't have a problem with wearing masks That's kind of nice of them. Um, it might be extremely racist, but at least they're this is being safe Yeah, I like the whole I want to be a grand dragon quote rags 20 I go to like the store and his is uh his clan mask and they're like what it's just to wear a mask is the only one I have Yeah And then they tell him to leave the store and he's going I'm being oppressed I'm an american dammit I was wearing a mask. I don't know what's problem was Someone said kkk rona virus You like from a distance the lights make you look like it's on fire, you know, it's fine And someone up close like I don't believe it. We need a real fire. This is bullshit You're really ruining the more traditionalist kkk members. They feel like they're there's really they've lost a lot from You know moving from real fires to More conservative kkk members are really angry with the more progressive kkk. Yeah, the more progressive kkk The more progressive ones they want to save energy, you know, they want to lessen their carbon footprint Like one of them's like, I guess the whites and the blacks can marry, but we don't have to like it They're like sure, I guess Just it's all the topic of white people are the first thing he says is this Okay, oh sweet fucking love talking about the kkk I'm doing something about white people and instantly goes to kkk like not every white person is part of kkk Like it's not really something every white person is actually part of Majority though at least Okay, right he's talking about every person that isn't him That's how we see racism that isn't him. This is everyone that isn't moving Moibob is the only white guy who's not racist. He's one of the good ones guys. He's one of the good ones The amount of racism against white people is absolutely outrageous Yeah So fucking much and it's so accepted Um and tolerated by white people I don't know how people are not up in arms like hey Do you guys not see the fucking problem with this when we're like Decrying Racism as a whole is society I think a lot of people have just sort of bought into the hole It's okay when one side does it and when one side doesn't it it's messy. It's just don't be racist Well, that's why the same standard equally to everyone Are you a building? No, but now now applying the the same standard to people as racist according to some people People are trying to change the goalpost of what racism is to where just literally being white Is is considered racism. What do you mean? That wasn't the first reference he gave for white people Ah Look, I love like being a minority because I get to like Yeah, most people aren't president without being called racist. It's like people can't just be like, oh, you're racist They have to engage me and meet me at my ideas and actually talk It's fucking great. It's the fucking best Is that because discussion requires work and she W's can't do work Yeah, dude people sleep on how much privilege there is to be a minority. It's fucking incredible Culture is so fucking monolithic that we don't even notice it's there to the extent which is weird because Bob already basically Treats white people as monolithic like, oh, you know white people this idea that It's like ingrained so we can't detect racism I'd be like, what if you get in false positives bobs? What if you overcompensate and you start seeing it everywhere? What about that? Is that possible? This is this image here of chris. This is how movibob pictures himself looking for racism He's like, I am the racism police I am Eagle eye movibob looking for racism in 13 year olds Even the smartest and most tolerant among us tend to subconsciously view our whiteness As a kind of tabula rosa normalcy and black it is normal And you say a while ago that racism was a conscious thing. My whiteness is normal. My parents were white. It's normal for me to be white But you're white It's like pink like we're not actually white. It's like a pinkish thing like black people aren't actually black I think that's what you mean by normal are actually black people and they're actually white people like most common Yeah, like it's normal to be white in a predominantly white area It really depends what meaning of the word normal he's going for so like if you see No, he's saying it's a word said rags is not a very good Let's not take that away from him. He is defying that it's like tabularity saying it's base state It's it's regular what he's saying is tabular rosa is in blank state Like being anything but white is an add-on to to to the regularness of whiteness Right, which is a different conversation Yeah, I I guess there are some people out there who think that sure Because like, you know, um, you know, I think thinks that I think I think it's specifically the sjw's who think that and I think it's a lot, um Like the white liberals who try to speak on behalf of minorities And the minorities that buy into the ship that they say to like that they that the white liberals come up with That hold those ideas I've seen like the you guys know the like the black hebra israelites them Oh, yeah, I think they're I think they're they think that like the default is like black and everything else is Like a like a corruption of that So do you know why they say that? Um, let me uh, I if I forget honestly, there's a lot of reasons There's a lot of reasons but one of the big things that like I I didn't know this and it was like, oh that makes sense It's because they're biblical literalists and they literally believe that he bruce are gods chosen people So they're ascribing being gods chosen people to themselves There you go. Oh like moment ism does the other way To be fair to movie bob. This is like seven different conversations. He's having in this video So it's pretty like you just trying to point out cap coms aren't racists. The problem is much worse It's that they can't even realize when they're racist I think that's that that's the point. He's thinking we nailed it Isn't cap com is cap com an american company or a fucking japanese company Japanese owned they probably have different branches that Because a lot of the credit through resiny will five are japanese names. So yeah, I guess they have a big localization Japanese this is 20. I'm so fucking tired of people ascribing like american racial standards and like standards of Woke-ness or whatever to other fucking countries Shit about it. He initially targets white people as being the problem. Maybe he's trying to talk about how The white people of america don't notice the problem Is is what he's trying to focus on rather than the people who made it at this point Or he's just trying to lump it all into the same thing. I don't know Pretty weird bob pretty Bigoted for you to assume that only white people were involved in making resiny will five if I may say so myself What it's literally made by a japanese company Yeah, I feel like it's a japanese com Anyway, but that was that that was I just mainly wanted it for that one bit. So it was interesting to see how he He cushioned it in that which part If I could if I could take If I took with other races the the all encompassing attitude that he takes to white people I think we know how that'd go down To any other race. Yeah, oh, you know white people, you know the kkk, you know It's like, you know, I I doubt he actually believes that all white people are fucking the kkk He's just white. It's like I he just needs to fucking not say stuff like an idiot He needs to be careful how he phrase agrees that he might say stuff Because I think I doubt his actual beliefs are Good, they're probably not that stupid, you know, he probably I literally believe The white people as a default members of the kkk I can I can think that movie bob probably believes in like group guilt of the whites Maybe we all feel bad and the world I don't Because he thinks he would be doing something very virtuous by pointing that out Like, oh, yes, I is like, oh, is like, oh, yes as as a white person Like I think that we white people, you know, we have so much work to do and we're just all we we should That's nothing. I think that's something he would think I think Fucking sounds like feeling guilt for the Feeling guilt for the accomplishment accomplishments of people who are Superficially similar to you is just as stupid as taking pride in it. Yeah, well accomplishments Wait, did I say slavery and hey, hey, hey Oh, no Because white people are successful it's because of the I feel like slavery isn't accomplishment, right? Like that's a lot of work So I'm pretty sure the thing I was going Stupid is taking pride in the accomplishments of people who are super superficially similar to you But uh, I may have said accomplishments at the wrong place Or the right. Yeah. No, I guilt guilt. We're talking about white guilt White guilt playing into white guilt. Let me tell you guys because you guys don't have to do this It's the fucking best Sure white man I've so accomplishment means something that has been achieved successfully So like, yeah, I mean like slavery wasn't accomplishment. I guess you could yeah And they pulled that one off for a while be aware of the connotations. That's all because that Achievement something no no something no something that has been achieved successfully Yeah, no, no, so accomplishment is something that's been achieved successfully But to know what accomplishment really means no you have to define achievement So if I google achieve Achievement is something a thing a thing done successfully Typically by effort courage or skill I mean it takes a lot of courage to enslave Well, I I mean, I don't see how you couldn't be skilled if you managed to pull off like the western slave trade How you could just bumble into it. You know who? like like This is something that like people try to erase But chattel slavery was an invention of western africa I like that you would be chattel slaved because of a like a tribal war or a territory war. I feel like he was way older The slavery probably came around like they talked about it in the bible. No, but we're talking about chattel slavery I know I know that slavery is old in that i'm talking about chattel slavery, which is what the american model of slavery was based on I feel like that goes back back a long long long long way ago Slavery was an invention of wales Really wales started. Yeah Yeah, like the welsh dammit moller. This is your people. Hey, we stopped it That's why they have a really on we were like, oh, this is bad actually and then everyone else was like, no, that's kind of neat And we were like, no, it was too late. Oh my god. No, it's cool. It's me saying it just now Yeah, jay's the one you need to direct your vitriol But like, okay, there's a humongous difference between like a roman slave and Um, like a black american slave in the 1700s. I didn't bring up roman slaves Well, but you're saying back in time because back further back further back further than the roman. Yeah, you go further back Like this is like we're talking x-mask genesis But I you know surely you would agree the chattel slavery. Yeah, like they were your property You could inherit them pass them down to your kids and even if uh, you're talking about the difference between like Legal things versus just you know, aug is in slaves og in his cave I still feel like it's relevant because it would be a stork of that same prospect I suppose Like the idea that they're completely separate because they have different rules I'd be like, wow slavery is just gonna be this big old tree through history, right? I really want to know where the stereotypical cave man names of like og and og came from Well, it's just like a sound Mouth sound Do you do you mean you want to know how they started back then like when they were like my name? Nobody wants any complicated names like engulf agil giggle goggle I assume the idea of owning like another human being probably is an equivalent age to the concept of ownership I don't oh, yeah, I feel like it's super old It's just older than time probably will not always be older than recorded history What is the thing that what what would have been the first thing that like was owned? by a person of rock, I don't know probably like literally food probably food And was that do you think that was do you think that would predate current humanity like as uh I mean like our like neanderthals and homo habilis and stuff like that Neanderthals were at the same time as humanity, right? Well going that I threw in another one in there just like going back and back and back to we were I mean probably I mean the concept of ownership is probably predates humanity Don't any anthropologists in shape and all the proto humans probably had a concept of ownership I wonder if like any uh animals living today that aren't humans have a concept of ownership Probably I would imagine that I feel like I feel like some animals probably have a sense of ownership over like their mates That that's probably a thing that because that doesn't happen, right? There are there's Territorial like maybe there's territorial animals. That's got to be a concept of ownership, right of owning territory. Yeah, you own I guess Oh, yeah, it's actually a really good point. Yeah Oh my I'm sure yeah, it's not like yeah I would be hesitant to say that humans invented ownership of things the concept of ownership I there I think there's a difference between like territory and and ownership I'll tell you I'm not I'm not sure how much of a difference they'll be seen to. Yeah, I don't know We invented like the whole human recognized ownership No one's gonna respect no human being is gonna respect like a monkey's ownership of a tree Deforestation Look at mucky comes home with his little hat in his briefcase. He's his tree's been taken down to make livery And That was my don't you need a Don't you need some form of like established legal code to be able to uphold? No, if you if you know if you in practice exercise your ownership Then that's I mean, it's it's fundamentally exactly the same Whether there's a piece of paper or a written law that ensures that it's yours legally that doesn't mean that if you Uh, especially in a time where there are no such things exist There are no legal codes and there are no, you know documentation for this sort of thing if you as a creature Are exercising the motions of taking ownership of of something and deciding what is done with it and That seems to be a distinction without a difference. We're going back so far, but none of this invalid No, that's what I cut out Uh, we're going back so far, but none of this invalidates anything I was gonna say Which was The american system and the new world system of slavery Was based on west african chattel slavery Yeah, slavery as a whole concept goes back super early and the idea of any different kinds of slavery will just be stalks Of what we understand slavery in the first place Okay, but in validates, it's just it's just a corollary. Well, so my counter would just be yeah And what was that based on and what was that based on and what was that based? Right, but that's not Sure, you can do that forever and go back to oh territory from animals. That's why we were talking about that I don't even really know what at this point. I'm wondering what the point is I mean, are there like white americans of it at slavery because no, that's like they just like so Yeah, yeah, the point was no, but people do think that people try to erase like the african component the africans captured other africans Yeah, is this like academics or like random people on twitter is my question Um, that's a great question. I I wouldn't say twitter so much. I would say more like the youtube videos like Things things of that nature I mean, it's got to be on twitter as well Yeah, but who fucking cares But the point is like here about twitter so really where where that leads is the portuguese And the spanish had a humongous role in this But okay because the the spanish did conquest so Well, but did maintenance so poorly compared to the english that like south america and the caribbean and spanish speaking countries The majority of them that are not spain are seen as like where minorities come from and like underprivileged people come from So heavy that because they all speak spanish and that's the only unifying thing about them that spain people now think of spain as similar When like they were the initiators of all this shit and they blamed it on england and like english white people It's fuck. It's the greatest caper that's ever happened in history is spain pulling off being treated like minorities because they speak spanish And having the blame for like racism and all and slavery and all that go to anglo-saxon white people Okay, so we all agree that whites didn't invent slavery All right Neat So, um, I think that's settled as movie bob would say. Yeah, I think that's uh, that is settled as the great movie By a guy named edgar slavery slavery. It was made after a person Mr. And mrs. Slavery, what do you want to make? There's one the day it was My hot tech here is that edgar, you know, really wasn't all that good of a guy No, yeah, I can I can see the augment there. Are you gonna make a video on that or I mean, maybe you know, there's enough interest That's a Edgar So then the that I only wanted it for that for that bit, but so like we're probably just gonna jump to the next Topic being yeah, sure. Um, all right. I think probably the time I'm gonna do it Wow j Yeah, so I I'm not gonna recommend we watch the video, but did we are we good? Do we know what's worse than racism? Yeah, the I think it seems to be Totally clear. He was saying like the what's worse than racism is not being able to detect racism because it's so ingrained in you Oh, that's I was hoping it would be something works. Yeah, so don't even don't even agree with I think in action is always going to be far more harmful and worse than a Your concept I guess he's arguing from the point that if you're aware you're doing a racism then it's like You've made your choice rather than Uh, someone who's unaware of it and thus it's an evil that will will just grow and roll over and influence I don't know if that's the angle he's going for though I I I guess yeah, it sounds like it's like oh the subconscious racism is reflected in this game But it like what he doesn't understand is the subconscious racism is his review of it because these are actual tribesmen in Africa um I guess I'm I'm fine with the idea that there are subconscious aspects of our animal brains that are Tribalistic and that extends to race and sex and all that sort of stuff in some way But I feel like we're good enough to be able to recognize those things and not enact them So it's weird that he brought it up for that split second that he did Remember his his idea of like being aware of it is to look at resinual five and be horrified while we're like wait one Yeah, because you have to make a compelling case as to why that's actually race To us Like someone who doesn't already start with the idea that it that that we don't agree with him Like he's not going to convince anybody. It's just preaching to the choir so hatred segues Crossing the line from violence to sadism This is a this video is on hatred. Yeah, we're going to be covered some hatred now. Remember hatred. Oh, gosh In case anybody knows, you know all about hatred, don't you so the idea is you know video games Uh violent video games, you know cool, but when are they not cool? That is the big discussion And uh, we're gonna get a lesson We get a lesson from good old extra credits about this See You can choose. Hey folks, you can ask for this, but here it is. I know I like some extra credit stuff I wonder if we'll like this one. I don't know Who knows what they've got to say it should be more than interesting. I'm sure with it before we start I should mention that today's subject matter is pretty grim and so the fucking voice already grayed me trigger warning Hey, this guy fucking also do spirit science No, I think this is a totally different person. I think that there's different channels, but they use the same voicetisms. I guess they they both do the Pseudo animation sort of thing that I kind of do No, I think I think it's literally this guy I don't think so. I don't know The results in some graphic depictions of violence and other unpleasantness in the video I know it's all cartoons and such but you know trigger warning for other unpleasantness wait He said it's all cartoons though, but it's so like easy portraying graphic violence with his little with cartoons Okay, how do you draw someone? How do you draw like his character getting beheaded? Wow You sort of just push it over and it falls down. It's just further away. It's magnets Okay, do the thing Oh, so loud. Why'd you do this to me? Rage goddess sing the rage of Peleus's son Achilles murderous doom that cost the Achaeans countless Killies is awesome. Are you talking about? Yeah, they're like this is one of stupid. Look how smart I am Well, guys, I've read I've read things. He's making a point of rage leave him alone. Jeez It's kind of weird. Oh, he's kind of a weirdo, but he was cool when he fought Hurling down to the house of death so many sturdy souls These are the first words of the western tradition. This is how we open the Iliad the first words of the western tradition Is he suggesting that the western tradition is built on violence Or is it the lamentation of violence? It sounds more like it's it's it's recounting A bad thing that rage is bad and it leads to bad things happening Doesn't don't like aspects of western culture predate the fucking Iliad Pretty sure they do Yeah, like I don't the epic of Gilgamesh from fucking 3000 years or Oh, and someone knows that someone actually checked He's been asked if he's related to the other channel you're mentioning and he's several times said we have no connection to it Yeah, okay, it sounds exactly like him and I saw a video Breaking it down, which is by the way, the funniest shit in the universe Um, and he yeah, he sounds identical. It's crazy There we go It's western culture and defined the society that defined the west down to today It's foundational seminal The Iliad defined the civil okay calm down I mean, I I feel like it's a little bit But it could be a semantics thing. It's not the cornerstone. It's a major major work in western culture It certainly is but I did it define the entirety of it. I don't think so I feel like we would have come away really really similar if this hadn't existed It's hard to say. I don't fucking I wouldn't want to comment on that. I don't know It's just the it could be a semantics issue as well between people Like what words they're using to describe how important it is could be on the same level but using different ones I don't know look of great meaning and great worth It's a cultural touchstone a work without which western literature as we understand it would not exist and yet Okay, so if you take away, okay, so Like if you take away any book Like yeah, sure it wouldn't exist as we know it it would be It would be different. Yeah, any old influential books, of course if you got rid of those other things would change like come on No, yeah, dude, there's no way Layer of bricks this wall might collapse divine comedy Iliad, you know same thing Uh, I feel like if the past was different then the present would be different. You can't say he's wrong If we didn't have the Iliad would never have the cantibary to the really really, okay Yeah, I I feel like saying maybe like like if he was being like, oh if the bible didn't exist society would be totally Fucking different like, okay. Yeah for sure the Iliad come on Ah, yeah, I'm not someone it's someone of the e-fap chats that the world would be unrecognizable without it Actually The incredibly stupid thing to say Unrecognizable there would still be greek mythology like not just because this Fucking book doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure he just made it the Iliad so that he can uh He can better fit his argument that overall is evil violent people Do you think he's gonna go on a tangent about only the white people only the western people Do you think he's gonna go on a tangent about how he read the Iliad to sleep with a bunch of women? I certainly hope so Yeah, at least the drawings would be better than the bombs He used it to sleep with the lesbians Oh my god, he used to sleep with the greeks lesbians big fans of the Iliad No, that's so so much. Oh of lesbos lesbos. Yes. Oh my god, dude. Everything is connected. Here. Oh, it's all spiderweb heavy rags It was too heavy like them clapping cheeks That's someone just had uh, imagine how different e-fap would be without the Iliad How it would be No, there's the Iliad doesn't exist I don't know It's about rage It's about anger and violence about destruction wrath In its lines We see the brutal struggle of personal combat and have painted for us a picture of its visceral result We are witness up close and personal to the slaughter of men and the extremities of yeah It talks about how rage can do bad things. There's some other stuff in there, too Yeah Lines he was referring to This is a bunch of rage and jealousy and betrayal. That's what that's what the story's about Is it mean all western societies about that? What does that look like? Ignoring like the honor of warfare. That's a big part of those books. No, it'd be awesome. Yeah Live war and yet again I will say without equivocation. It is a classic and more than that. It's necessary That's right. It was actually wearing a jacket Hi It's um, are they mutually exclusive? I don't I don't know So I guess which part are we talking about specifically right now. I need to be looking at him. He said as a sort of like, um You know It he doesn't want to imply that it's bad. He was like, no it's classic It's important on the rage aspect is important for us to explore and I think he's going to explain why and you can Sort of see set in the the stage for why exploring violence is a plus But I'm assuming that's going to lead him into where is the line? Where are we not allowed to explore? That's the part I'm actually interested in to be honest with you. Yeah Yeah, he's you know He's gotta rush it, but it'll be all right These are a primal part of who we are They are without a doubt part of being human denying that denying them only makes them worse Instead we need to understand and to channel them and sometimes we need an outlet for them All right good so far so good. Yeah. Yeah, so far. Yeah, so good And that's why I've never been against violent video games I will be the first to say that some games approach violence in a more interesting and nuanced way than others And I'll also be the first to say that I don't want games to be limited to being only about violence. What is that on his head? He's got that weird that weird head into this. Hold on. I want to see what you're talking about He stitches hair into his head Or here Oh, shit, you're right Frankenstein, yeah It's like hair plugs. It's proportion also Might be worth us talking about it now ahead of time, but like, you know killing floor for example rags. I don't um Necessarily when playing that game get a strict sense of just laying off steam and violent stuff A lot of the time it's very mechanical. Like I really enjoy Uh the how do I say this like the the guns doing what they do in response to enemies It's the skin of violence and blood and zombies and stuff that's that's neat But like the actual fun i'm getting is is just how well how well it works mechanically if you know what I mean Yeah gore in and of itself doesn't it's it's nice to have You know like hermitide wouldn't be the same without it gilling floor wouldn't be the same without it. Um But those games are really good because I think they're really mechanically tight And because there's a lot of skill that's there and there's something that can be mastered and learned You can get a clear progression of your skill. Have any of you played flower the game? No Okay, well someone in chat probably has the the game is you play as a leaf in the wind And you have to like blow yourself into flowers collect more petals until you become like a huge petal tornado And uh, you eventually I think you arrive at like a big flower at the end and it completes that was very chill game It's super easy to just just just listen to some music all the soundtrack of the game and just play It's really nice. Um, he said Um, he said, oh, I don't think all video games should be violence Like what the fuck are you talking about? No one's on the other end of that argument though Most of that, um, I think it's going towards the idea that it needs to justify itself Why it should be why the violence is included like why is the violence here? What purposes serve? And thing is yeah, that that should be interesting That's an interesting idea to explore and if you're writing a story you should always have include things that are, you know Have a purpose But uh, if I wanted to make a violent game just for the violence's sake, I don't see why that would that should be denied Uh, if I wanted to make that I serve games like that It's gonna be like the epitome of of intriguing games I don't give me wouldn't be any emmy's or something like that But um, it should be made to be allowed It's you know, you shouldn't need a justification to allow violence in the video game There are tons and tons of games without violence in them at all. There are puzzle games. There are fucking like It's so many Um, the reason I brought flower right is that some people consider it really gay like they're like, oh my god, it's okay I saw someone in chat say it's a it's an award bait game. Like it's not a I'm not saying this is a position, but I could see someone saying not a real game It's just it's just trying to be cool and need and you're like, oh look at you So I was thinking like what if someone was to play it on Alternative mode or or undead mode and you actually you play as a bullet And each of the flowers are replaced with zombie heads and you break through them and the more blood you collect can Eventually be deposited into a big well at the end and you win literally everything else plays the same But the skin changes and now it's suddenly a violent game, right? Like, uh, yeah So the interesting thing I have right here. I guess of like mechanics versus What's being depicted? I suppose And that is that what determines the violence versus I don't know like I mean that skin of something That's very fundamental. Yes understandable Yeah, no, but at a like fundamentally sure right like sure. Yes, you literally cannot have violence if violence is being portrayed right Yeah, I was just clarifying that I guess because I find it interesting that uh It's it's it's a matter of changing You know, this is how they avoid certain ratings in films, right? Like instead of aliens having if they have green blood It can get a way lower rating than red blood Or like the 90s cartoons where they had ray guns instead of real guns Yeah, I think I think that's to do with it Yeah aspects of fantasy make it easier for us to digest it because humans have a Generally humans have a natural empathy towards other humans. So when we see red blood and we it's why That's why rape is a lot more harder to get away with in video games than Then or anything or violence because we have especially men towards women We can have an extreme empathy towards the the plight of a weak individual being taken advantage of in this Distressing emotional way whereas you see a zombie getting blown apart There's no emotional connection there. There's no relation um Well a zombie is human. I would I would like say there's a lot of uh Something that can be looked into there But other enemies. Yeah, I mean like killing floor two weird monster. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that's a better Even no zombies. I still think it holds up as a fine analogy But yeah, but there's definitely a lot of philosophical Talk about zombies and the fact that they were human Sure, I guess some people yeah, like yeah, because it's like every horror Movie the idiot is the person who thinks the zombie is still not a zombie than they do right because they do that And it's like trophy at this point Yeah, well, no, not even that like season one of the walking dead Like where they tried to make the zombies not like they were comic Give them an ounce of humanity Well season two where they trap and put a bunch of them in a barn because they're sure they can cure them Which is really retarded because they have organs falling out of them and stuff Yeah But hey, I mean if you could If you thought of that backwards like hey, look at this crazy ass healing factor Basically, like that these people can survive having organs falling out of them We're gonna use that for medicine. That would be a way better angle Uh You could possibly I don't know if that would be discounted in terms of like they're not even alive. They're just animated I don't know Yeah Yeah, um, anyway, well, this is the thing. Um, what else what else would there be to I guess What do you guys think is there any limits to what video game should be allowed to portray? I'd be allowed to is that are illegal if if you were able to restrict games as like a lawmaker Would you want to restrict them in any way? Uh, no, you like this any more than it in already is illegal to do certain things Yeah, yeah, I I think that in terms of like you can't It's like a lot of that. You can't dox people with the video game. Oh, yeah, I guess things like that. Yeah Yeah, I guess I'm not aiming for that. I'm also aiming for portrayals of violence. Then let's do with that We're not talking about like child porn or like, uh Drawing the line like no none of that stuff So someone in the chat specifically violence It should video games Allow you to make rape playable. I don't think it should be illegal But if everyone saw that game to be like, oh my god, this is disgusting and then no one would buy it and like the video game makers would like Go bust, you know what I mean Yeah, the fallacy note isn't it really isn't I think that video game should adhere to the laws of the places that they're created I think that that does I'm not saying I'm not making moral arguments here Yeah, I'm saying I think that I this is a purely legalist point of view you're designing I'm just saying yeah, if if you build a game Then I think that you should you know not do things that are illegal in it I think do think there needs to be some level of respect for the law and the content and there should be avenues to change that Well, so Well, but then if you are if you're following that argument you can't portray Murder drug use you can't portray things in video games. Yeah, that's not this. I'm assuming right is referring more so to like Yeah, like what I was saying like doxxing can't dox people. Yeah in the video game Would you would you agree that video game are speech Yes The speech and expression. Yeah, it is a method of expression. Yeah Yeah, so then I guess what you're not allowed to say what you're saying that it should be subject to the same Laws as speech in whatever country it's made in is that what you're saying? I I I'd say so with it within reason, you know, like north korea, you know, obviously we're talking I Don't want to throw out the idea that I'm talking about, you know, north korea or something here No, I'm but uh, obviously a north korean made video Uh a north korean Public should and would have to follow north korean Okay, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying okay when when I said the legal I was not talking about crazy fucking countries like north korea No, no, no, no I don't want to go on that tangent. Yeah, can we get over this? Yeah and separate the two groups I'm just trying to characterize your argument. I'm really just trying to understand the two different So rags would be okay with portraying doxxing but not actually doing doxxing Yeah, absolutely. Yes, you can't actually dox a real individual using a video game But a character doxing another character is yeah, totally. Yeah Yeah, I fully agree with you Someone said you're being grooved on this the act of doxing something can be I'm not talking about the act I'm talking about actually doing it Yeah, I don't know why anybody had trouble with you saying that I got you immediately like of course People are willing to the worst interpretation of the things that I say sometime Um, so yeah, uh, if they were going to characterize your argument I fully agree if there were a game that's like Extremely high graphic detail and the entire campaign is just uh chopping out and pulling out different parts of a human's body over the course of let's say 20 hours Um You I'm assuming the argument would be yes allowed But you would kind of hope that uh, like let's just say it's entirely built for the disturbing element Like you'd be like damn, I hope this isn't allowed to make that But I hope people wouldn't enjoy it too much. Yeah, and people can criticize it all they want You know, you can make that if you want to. Oh, yeah, absolutely I think however the problem is that making those kinds of games Will it will create black backlash towards them. Yeah That's just that that will be a natural result of trying to push the boundary too far That game exists is called surgeon simulate the surgeon simulate is amazing So you get like um that you get like a um Like the cuties thing, right? You something you make you make something like that Shouldn't make it And then it brings a lot of attention to it, right? It's sort of a it's like, uh If you do something that's really overtly bad People will notice it and i'm not saying cuties is okay and it brought negative attention towards something that shouldn't have it I'm just drawing a parallel here. Um because hatred is obviously one of the examples, uh, that's going to be brought up Uh inevitably, uh, i'm trying to think of what's what because that's the most controversial game for being violent, right? In our recent memory. I don't know if there's anything that beats it out gta 5's torture scene. I think was one of the ones that came up Violence in video games hasn't i'm trying to think of like times just even uh If you want you guys go any examples over the past few years, maybe chat. I don't know It just um feel like we I mean generally Generally games just don't shock people like they used to Postal I think we've just sort of I I guess people have become Less boomery about it. They've become more mainstream and more accepted It's what's it like remember when stuff like um like manhunt came out things like that Oh, no rush. Oh, yeah, that's a great example. Yeah Something tells me that if you were allowed to kill abby in the last of us two people would be really upset about it um well like The other thing is people will mod games to push boundaries like killing children and fallout Yeah, um Yeah, and but I think that goes with a whole if you I think I come like with Bethesda not allowing you to kill kids in the game They have very little to gain from allowing you to do that and they have a lot to Potentially lose from allowing you to do that. Absolutely. So from a business perspective. I totally understand why they did that Yeah, fully super agree with you super completely Yeah, someone mentioned agony agony is very there's those are like Hard-core violence in it, but I don't know if it actually managed to even Get too mainstream in terms of a controversy for that I don't I don't think it was big enough and I think that especially when it released it was just terrible And it was mechanically horrible. Yeah, everyone took a big dump on it so And it and it almost the super violence and it was almost turned into something mocking Because that's sort of what the game what is like shock value violence and weirdness Because the game itself was so mechanically disjointed and uh in bad Yeah, I just so it seems that our position as a team of five here is that you can do it, but Uh, we we would hope that people would raise a sort of flag against a game that seems to exclusively be about Um the pleasure of causing others pain like there's no other element to it. It's just that Like okay a bit weird you got that going there Um, but we want to make it illegal. That's all I wanted to clarify, right? Yeah What is that game where you're like just a crazy person who's been planning to be like a serial killer or something? Is that hatred hatred? Hatred yeah, it is it is. Yeah, that's the one that got that's the last time I remember really controversial because they they stopped selling it on steam for a bit, didn't they? Didn't something happen? I think so I want to say something something happened And they brought it back Yeah, well because if I remember because I remember seeing gameplay footage and I was like, oh I thought it was gonna be way worse than this It's mainly in black and white too Yeah Did anyone play it? Did I play all this planet play it? I wonder I picked it twice. It's pretty fun Is it so we're over the top? You really can't take it seriously. It's like uh, I don't know Remember Quentin Tarantino and when he made like death proof and everything it's kind of like Playing on it's like making fun of some of those tropes and everything. It's kind of like that It's it's kind of making fun of itself the whole edginess though It's making fun of the intended of the audience that the ancient media thought it was kind of catering to it's making fun of you If you if you're into that the big if you're making if you're into the the the big I'm the edgy guy with my big trench coat my long hair and everything If you're one of those edgy people and it's kind of making fun of you in that way Is this is it's so over the top and overblown because you start off with the shooting up your own neighborhood Uh, what is anyone of mine spoilers for this one? No, I don't You start off you start off shooting up your own neighborhood and then you go through these Different levels and you shoot up you shoot up like a like a sewer with all these homeless people and the she being changed by cops and everything And it ends with you sitting off Overloading like a nuclear reactor. It's just it's just over the top and crazy Yeah, apparently that's a really either you were both France Uh And the gay ben had to make a statement about it Yeah, definitely got attention. Uh hatred I I didn't like I guess I never gave it enough thought to to arrive at that, uh place But that's a really really great interpretation of hatred Well, if you if you've never if you don't know anything about video games and you've never played them And you hear about hatred. It's like, oh my god. I can't believe it's it's The whole like but for people who play games all the time you're like, oh that looks edgy and dumb Yeah, and it is it's like very edgy. It is very very dumb But it's also it's also pretty fun if you if you like to indulge in that If you like if you're the type of person like b movies and they speak terrible movies I'm just made to be crap. Then you probably like hatred. So, uh, is it a twin stick shooter? Is that the um genre? You like it's like a top down you run through the neighborhood Yeah, it's top down Um, it's like a Steven Seagal movie of video games pretty much And yes, there's no way you could There's no way you could take the game series the way it's all the uh the dialogue the way it's portrayed the way things It's come about it's this over top. It's like a it's so it's very dark and edgy humor. It's right over the top dark and edgy I remember, um Like the the trailer didn't the guy have fucking Like how do you get grenades? Yeah, uh, I I don't remember the specific I I I've got like an image in my head of what it was like But um, like rag said about the If you've never seen something like that before it was like a total normie and then you see it for the first time You're just like, oh my god, this is the worst thing ever. We have to stop it. It's the same as um You know when people started to realize that people on the internet will tell you to kill yourself like It was just like Jesus Christ. What what horrors and it's like no that that happens a lot. I don't like what That's like Um But yeah, so that's what shocked everybody and I guess I don't know if this video came out right then actually Is this true? someone in chat said Ask sweden They've had a massive increase in grenade attacks. Is that true? I don't know. I've not heard whether or not. What is a massive increase? I'm gonna google lots of green. Oh, yeah. Anyway, I guess we'll let uh Extra credit to take it from here as approach violence in a more interesting and nuanced way than others And I'll also be the first to say that I don't want games to be limited to being only about violence But I also think it's good that we have violent games It helps us channel our emotions come to catharsis understand who we are and sometimes enact our rage in a space where we hurt Nobody many of us have had an experience. Um I just wanted to clarify again though It doesn't have to be that the only reason we have violence as an aesthetic or Presentation is to get like feelings of repressed violence that we have Off our chairs could just be that you like the setting of violence Yeah, like 99 of the times when I play a violent video game It is not because I have some pent up rage inside of me that I need a safe outlet for It's that I think it's really fun and visually interesting and it's a challenge that I love to try and overcome Yeah Violence is fucking fun If if killing floor was all the guns are a place of water guns and you're firing like water pellets in some way and the enemies are all like Made of sponge or something and they have amount of water You know taken on is what their health is Like the mechanics if they all remain the same Um, I'd still be pretty damn impressed with the game with tips of like Water gun physics But like I don't know it wouldn't have the same appeal. Well, that's the thing. I don't think I'd be as interested I'd be like, I don't know. It's a little it's like splatoon where you're like Yeah, the mechanics are probably because I haven't actually played splatoon, but it's it's like incredibly kid-friendly as a competitive I don't Violence in splatoon is there you're just covering shit in paint. Yeah, that's that's kind of what I'm getting at It's like a skin covering kids and goo like movie With his duty In video where he's like we got to send something along the lines of uh The he feels more satisfaction if the battle has to be cleaned up with the with the mop as opposed to like a broom Oh, uh, apparently they they explode in platoon splatoon Oh, no Yeah, well, that's probably the most I remember you were inking to ink you shall return You know according to my girlfriend you do like shoot other people with the paint But you're never gonna kill that's not violent. I would argue Oh, they can regenerate after being exploded. I guess that's probably the kid friendly aspect. Yeah. Yeah realistic consequences are often what make Uh, some things ratings go higher Yeah, yeah, like like like home alone people get people step on nails They have ricks thrown at them. They get electrocuted to the point of being skeletonized But there's no realistic consequences to it. So it's okay. It's kid violence. Yeah, it's fine. Nobody's nobody's scared Yes Um, and I guess this will probably come up. So maybe I should head And even if it doesn't it's probably worth pointing out That there is a huge difference between people's fantasies and what their actual desires for reality are. Yeah Yes, we have every one of us has a zombie apocalypse fantasy in our heads Kind of that doesn't mean that we want some actual zombie apocalypse to occur There's a lot of more hammer 40k fans out here And it's super fucking cool and awesome. But that doesn't mean we actually want to live in that world Um, yeah, like to be godzilla and smash through a bunch of buildings in a game and then it's like do you want to do that in real life? I'm like, no No, no, no, no, no, I don't I think this extends to video games and violent worlds And I mean hell a lot of sex fetishes are purely Purely fantasy based that we would never want to actually happen in the real world. It's just a fantasy. Yeah that we control Yeah No, but yeah, exactly what was said earlier. It's not like oh, I have this pent up anger And desire to commit violence that I must Get out by playing a fucking red dead redemption or gta. It's just fun. It's just fantasy Well, that's that's what I was gonna say my first sort of take was more Hey, there's another reason you might do it But now my take is kind of I think it's more so likely That you play it because he's kind of you just have some fun in there Not that you come home from a stressful day of working like I need to kill zombies. I have to you're like, okay Yeah I think it's just that it's fun. It's just really fun on a Bestial level you just you like to compete you like to Be violent you like to do all these things that they're just fun. There's something fun about it I would even go as far as saying like I kind of just like the interaction of I pull Like press button thing comes out on screen goes into Thing I'm aiming at and they explode and someone's like that's really violent though. I'd be like, oh, well, I don't know. I just I don't know. It's fun So if you found out like That I don't know gta or some game that you play a lot That the npcs that you kill that it's like that ryan reynolds movie that they're sentient and that they feel pain and whatever Um, like you would be horrified because you're committing actual violence and there's consequences Which which which ryan reynolds movie you're referencing gamer? Uh, the new one the brand new one. Oh, yeah Uh real uh real guy guy something guy Well, uh gamer would apply to that though, right because in gamer it's like prisoners Uh in games and the control of the people who play the game. I think that's the idea This is um, well, I that's like you know that you're controlling a prisoner This is more like what I'm talking about is more like ender's game talking about free guy freeman free guy Yeah, what i'm talking about is more like ender's game where you don't know that it's a simulation where like you find out Oh, this is real. I'm causing actual damage. Yeah. You'd be fucking horrified Yeah, I would be angry as well. Whoever did this lied and why what the fuck Yeah, it's just harmless escape. I just wanted real reality all the time Variants where we were left frustrated or angry and instead of going out and just hitting somebody we played a game We tore it up in a multiplayer. By the way, I don't even think that this is this framing is is one that I would make It's the idea that like we have a choice You can go out instead of going out and hitting somebody you go out and play video game Like whoa, whoa, whoa, I was never gonna hit somebody I feel like calm down It feels so weird. Fuck sorry. I mean like, you know, like is he saying that we just said it Yeah, I've never played in like a violent or aggressive video game Like instead of going and beating someone up or killing someone and if I had like a roommate or something There's like, oh man, I such an awful day. I really wanted to punch this guy. I want to play a video game It'd be kind of weird I'd be like, oh man, I'm sure I'm sure that guy exists. Oh, he's like a severe outlier He needs a therapist like Jesus because you know like years of war you you put your uh, your lanser on on a person's soul right through them Blood spurts everywhere if someone's like, well, I bet you won't be hurting anyone now because you did that I'd be like, what? No, I think the worst argument would be I bet you are going to hurt someone now because you did that Oh, well if I was unable to do it, which for X amount like I've got a Capacity of violence moving the causation It's really strange. Um, which by the way, I wouldn't want the extra credits guy is that person Well, I wouldn't want to say that it's an impossibility or anything I'm sure there are people out there who do feel that games manage to get them De-stressed and stuff when they want to hit somebody. I'm sure that does happen I just don't think it's as common as they're implying. Oh, yeah. I think that those are Extremely rare cases So when uh, when I was a kid, sorry someone said if only Hitler had a ps4 When I was a kid the guy who wrote the dexter books Uh came to a bookstore and I went to like an event or something whatever like a author signing And it was like q&a. I guess and he spoke and somebody asked him Oh, what do you say to the people that say that you are writing? Uh, particularly because there were some people who killed Like in a dexter-esque way and said they were inspired by dexter to commit some murders at the time Uh, this is like more than 10 years ago. Mm-hmm Same thing with what you say to them Yeah, what do you say to those people that say that you're writing inspires violence? And I think his answer was great and it stuck with me for for all these years He said those people were going to do that already. That's look is not going to make you do that That's I think that's 100 true. Well, yeah, I Uh, well, this applies equally to when we we will say do not go after anybody that we we check out especially like People who are like I say especially this just counts equally You know, someone who's like completely detached from the thing So for example, people go after actors for the the fucking character is the most bizarre thing ever. Oh, yeah We say don't do it. We will still be people will still say about ifa and and whoever else that You're part of the cause because you supply a vitriol toward the films Which translates into a vitriol toward the actor specifically and it's like I don't think those people needed us to just Be insane and go after people specifically Characters like the idea that we make that happen is fucking crazy But at the same time us saying don't do it is probably going to do fuck all because these people don't seem to like They know what they're doing is is uh Well, we still do it anyway because I want to make it clear that that is my position But I doubt it'll stop someone from doing that Yeah, I do I I do I genuinely do Do what? Yeah, I think that it would stop some people from like but we're talking we're not talking about violence We're talking about like trolling on twitter Yeah, I I seriously doubt someone is going to do that anyway would be stopped by me saying not to I think that's fair. No Okay, yeah super super on on board with that But I think if someone like if you were showing something that you disagreed with and some kid in your audience Was like, I'm gonna go uh tweet at this person and just you know, whatever like they come up with that idea independently Directly as a result. It's not something they were going to do before but they think I'm gonna I'm gonna troll this person And then you say hey, by the way, don't do this I and they're like, oh, okay. I think it's worthwhile for the dexter right to put that in the book No, no, but we're talking you're talking about two different things You're talking about like someone that already wanted to do something ahead of time And someone that specifically decided to do something because of reading dexter made them think that that's something they could do No, but I don't want to equate killing and trolling. I I don't I don't care I'm asking you the question of if someone what reads dexter and thinks hey There are people you can kill in the world that might make it a better place. I'm gonna do that Then is it worth him putting in the book? Hey, this is actually not a good thing to do In that circumstance, um sure Yeah, so I I would say no I would say like it's not his obligation in his fiction to have like a PSA that you shouldn't do bad things. That's absurd Yeah, you're not Yeah, you're not responsible for how people misinterpret your work Yeah, and so if I'm saying rose tico is a poorly written character and then someone goes I'm gonna attack the actress I'd be like what the fuck like what where did you get that from and just like well You should tell them not to in case they do that which I'm willing to do but I don't think that that's a connection I think that's just a crazy person Okay, I don't think you have an obligation to tell people not to do that But you said you think it doesn't change that someone might do it. I think That it might to some extent. Um, I'd be willing to concede that it might be for you But I would say that you might be able to change someone from doing something horrible as a result of reading a book too Yeah, that's completely different. I would say I would say there's a difference between that and like sending a mean tweet to someone Sorry, I'm just imagining the very end of a clockwork orange like once the credits roll something comes up Oh, by the way, don't do any of this Remember watching bad someone watching the movie goes. Oh, well, I was going to go gang rape woman, but I guess I won't now I guess I hadn't really considered her feelings, huh? Um, the other thing is when you say oh rose whatever bad character You're there's no part of you that's saying hey go attack this person But if someone comes to the decision. Hey, I'm going to go attack the actress as a result of how many people are saying the character is bad That that's a little bit different than like I'm going to give a depiction of violence and someone says I'm going to go commit violence because of this I actually think I take the reverse position of yours because at least in dexter They're actually arguing the benefits of killing evil people While I'm not even remotely coming to the subject of attacking characters Actors. No, that's but no that is my position. You're you're quoting my position. Maybe I said it bad, but like that's exactly what I'm saying I'm trying to suggest that you're nowhere and you're saying anything like Attack these people Yeah, um, which but the idea that like if I put it well That's why it's it's good to do for many reasons that I put out that you shouldn't do that If even if there's one person's mind that's changed it's worthwhile because it doesn't cost me anything Yeah, we fully agree. We are in complete agreement Um, I just I still assign it to be crazy thinking Um, maybe you could say it's covered by immature thinking as well to a degree. And so they just need a guiding hand or some kind Yeah, like if I attack the actress, it'll be some kind of benefit to the I don't even I don't even know what they're trying to achieve just to annoy the actor. Yeah You gotta be a kid or like immature or stupid But at the same time, I'm sure that if someone said hey writer of dexter Do you think it's good that I kill people? I consider evil. They'd be like no That's crazy. Yeah But like no, yeah, we're talking about uh like someone uh deciding to Troll someone or attack someone online is tangential from Making a bad review of something that they did Uh, it it you're never ever saying you know what you should attack this person online and then saying Hey, but by the way, don't do that. You're just saying this person did a bad job And then someone might have the idea I'm gonna go troll them and then you say hey, don't troll them and they might say, oh, okay I won't I'm not even I'm not even sure I'd say she did a bad job Like the actress I mean, I don't know that I would think her acting was bad It was the writing was abysmal. I'm more inclined to blame the director anytime an actor is bad I'm sorry. Yeah, I might have said that wrong. I never mind You wouldn't you wouldn't know that that's necessarily what I said about uh rostiko, but yeah. Yeah, uh, what is your name? Sorry, someone said murder is wrong now. It's political correctness gone mad Yeah, I just want to be clear. I think we are agreeing Yeah, uh, I guess we're here because of um the idea of like Well, I'm not sure how to draw this back to x-crash because I'm not entirely sure how we got here anymore But the whole Sorry if I'm being difficult. I know it's fine. Uh, if if uh, if you're playing violent video games It's likely that you did it rather than hurting someone. I'm gonna roll it back because it's such a weird thing to say Sometimes enact our rage in a space where we hurt nobody Many of us have had an experience where we were left frustrated or angry and instead of going out and just hitting somebody We played a game. We tore it up in a multiplayer match or we blasted our way through a tough level It's possible, but like geez Yeah, like I I feel like this is really really stretching if For oh, it's almost like yeah, sure There's enough people playing games that it's basically a statistical inevitability that that person will exist eventually Yeah, I suppose he said many which allows him some freedom because how many is many, right? I like the person rage playing donkey kong though like instead of beating someone up. They're gonna go beat this level Look at his gonna be something that won't frustrate me like a platformer He says we all have had so like I think he's He has been in that situation and he's ascribing. Oh, yeah, everybody feels that everyone feels it at some point. I'd be like And at the end of it that rage had evened out it wasn't gone, but we were able to better deal with Fucking I've had more instances of a game Yeah, I was gonna say I've had more instances of a game pissing me off than being pissed off and made better by a game same That to control it perhaps even to turn it toward a productive end. That's a powerful thing. It's valuable It's something we shouldn't just toss aside and beyond even this games can serve not only as an outlet for our rage But also help us to understand it when james was young earthbound was one of the first things that really made him think About these angry violent feelings and what people probably understand their rage If you well, especially in his scenarios, someone made you angry and you played a game And now you understand your every like what because they pissed you off I guess I think people know what makes them angry most of the time most of the time like we can trace our anger directly back to the source Yeah, like someone someone comes to the face and you're like, oh, I'm angry now They do to the world pacifist runs in games like skyrim or world of warcraft or the pacifism achievement And geometry wars help us to understand that there are alternatives to violence and games like No one had ever considered that until yeah, because when I when I learned that when I was like four um, like just strategically getting the things that I wanted Hitting my parents wasn't going to make those things. I picked up on that one pretty quick I was telling there was alternatives to violence. Come on. I didn't learn that there was an alternative to violence until I watched a playthrough of skyrim on pacifist run. I'm a toxic man. You gotta teach me these things. Okay I love that geometry wars taught us that there's an alternative path to violence Uh that really helped us understand our rage, you know, can we just yeah, thank you geometry wars That's one of the one of the things I've always appreciated about it ASX or the metal gear series even encouraged that we find a way to do the least harm Violence in games has value and games themselves can help us understand and channel what can oh shit. That's coral Yeah Ragebending Is Constantine right, I think so that's literature devil I remember when they filmed that That's my old neighbor. I mean I mean when they filmed that movie it was pretty cool Everyone all the demons kind of uh gathered up and they started killing us. It was kind of weird Wow, did they pay for that? Did you oh, no wow It was communist pretty well kept by the way. I like your house Looks warm the least harm I try violence in games has value and games themselves can help us understand and channel What can be an incredibly destructive part of being human reds and this is doubly true for children So long as they're not simply being left with violent games as a babysitter But rather playing with a sibling or a parent who can talk about these emotions and these actions with them Oh my god, could you imagine like playing fucking Metroid when I was like the kid just shooting loads of shit and my parents were like, do you know why you're attacking these creatures? Like mom shut up Longer space pirates you're trying to kill me and I want to beat the game I need to kill these things so explode into piles of blood. Okay, shut up mom Yeah, like I wouldn't let my kid play some extremely violent game. Sure Do you think it's all right that you step on these poor creatures in your mario game? Yeah, that's the servants of the dark lord bowser. They get what they deserve, mother I wouldn't play this pack of his version. No son. You go the violent route. No core toucher the enemy The game is trying to teach you that if you spare them you will be punished People in chat are bringing up Ender's game again. I think I think that's a great example of What like this topic? I think extra credits legitimately thinks that people don't learn anything else I'll be honest with you. I didn't really I don't feel like Playing games when I was younger gave me a better view on how violence works. I don't know No video games are the only way you learn to be a person mawler Oh What if the video games are violent then you need your babysitter or your mom to sit down next to you So when you guys patronize to you about What you're doing when you guys played the no russian mission in mom over to did your parents come in like, okay? So This was bad. Okay Shooting all the civilians not cool Don't do that in real life. It's bad I thought shooting civilians was the good thing to do. Yeah, the game taught me that what? I You know how they shoot you at the end of that mission I'd like the idea is like, oh, they shoot you because you didn't get all the civilians I gotta get them next time. I'll nail it We start the game son and shoot all the civilians. They shoot you and you'll survive Now I want to talk about the game hatred. I think hatred is going to be a terrible game not only because What do you say you said hatred you think hatred is going to be a terrible game After it's out I think hatred is going to be a well I think that's what prompted this video Isn't it like it's the idea of how how bad does the game have to get before we start saying hey This is wrong. Well, since it's called from violence to sadism, I'm assuming the point is going to be That like it's violence for violence's sake, which is bad. I'm assuming that's the point he's going to make. I don't know Terrible game not only because I doubt it's actually going to be well made But also because hatred the game is not about rage It's actually not even about violence really hatred as it's been advertised is about sadism And sadism is not the same thing as anger not even close Um, I isn't it up to the player of the game to determine whether or not it's sadism Yeah, what it's about is kind of hard to be definitely definitive about in terms of what a player gets out of it experience-wise So say it's just so clear sadism is the tend the tendency to derive pleasure, especially sexual gratification From inflicting pain suffering or humiliation on others So it is no one's suffering. It's so yeah, so you can't by definition Have sadism it's almost like faux sadism. It's it's pseudo sadism It's it's the appearance of doing things that are bad without actually doing it Um, but granting that because I think it's probably what he means Come on. Do you remember the trailer from from hatred? He's like, I have no name. My name is not important My I just see this world and everything in it. Like this is not this the trailer is so goofy How in the world did they take that seriously and thought this game would be like a straight edge shoot-em-up game I'm just gonna be taking place like oh, this is a obviously the creators manifesto or something No, you can tell by the trailer how goofy it over top. It's going to be. It's silly This was I don't I feel like there's a part of his brain that thinks people just like I think he's taken this way too far down a road that people just normally don't the blame is on That's very evident in him saying we've all had the day where we don't hit someone and play a video game Just you dude, but wait, what I had an experience where I played a video game and felt I was angry played a video game But you know the thing that would video games might do however is making you like kind of forget about your rate Like take your mind off of it, but it's never going to be like oh I mean I felt the same gratification playing this violent video game as I did actually hitting something I don't think that that's that's how it works exactly But what also he loves the only he thinks the only justification for violent video games Is that they let you release your anger and because he's like this isn't even about anger Therefore like it's not what if it releases. You'll say it doesn't tend to see only Yeah, you would yeah, if anything he should be using the exact same argument for it being a safe For a safe release of our rage to be a safe release of our sadism Yeah, too Safe to go out and do it in the real world. Uh, that gave me that for them. Okay, two killer arguments. I love how we arrived at hatred to Like before him before any of us knew I guess besides mauler if you watched the video ahead of time Uh before any of us knew hatred like we talked about it already Oh, yeah, that's like the ultimate example. Yeah, because that is that's probably again That's what would have sparked this video's creation. The only other thing I could remember was uh, The gta 5 torture scene and no russian. They're like the biggest controversies for violence. I think in the past How long is that the past like five six years? I don't know. Let me uh, uh Probably more than that for mom will fit you it came out in november of 2009 Mom will fit you we're already got 11 years ago. Fuck you now gta No modern warfare 2 Um, oh But yeah, I was just gonna bring up like if there's a person out there who says to extra credits like I have a severe The the character in dexter is uh trying to control a desire to kill right? That's like his problem. Yeah Yeah, um, so what if that person exists and says games like hatred managed to keep them in an equilibrium and Games like hatred because he only played the game So it's a bit awkward to make this video. What if the point of hatred was what literature devil was talking about? What if it's to make fun of people who are obsessed with this sort of thing? Or that the final point of the game is this is not worth it This is not the way to behave and what if that helps people who do behave that way like what then? Or or not even like this isn't the way to behave, but just like look at what people fucking think video games are Yeah, this isn't what video games are supposed to be. What if it was made bad on purpose? I Wouldn't even call it a universal human trait. There's no way to channel A universal human trait. There's not many of those. I mean, yeah, I mean sure I mean sure there are some humans that are not quite right who never experience anger or rage sure But I would say that sadism is far more Far more rare than just rage Rage is typically just use like extreme anger It's just anger plus but I doubt there's a lot of sadists out there He also said that like there's no productive way to channel it and surely there would be right, you know Playing a sadistic game for example. Yeah, like playing this. Yeah That's not a way to like release it But I mean also like if you're in war or something like that and it's like a justified war or something then surely like rage and sadism and all that stuff like I just don't understand the distinction. He's making between Rage like you want to go like fuck someone's day up just because you're really mad at them And like you want to see them suffer like I don't really understand The distinction he's making exactly um deriving like a pleasure from from hurting them like irrelevant of how you were put into a position of anger, I suppose is is It does seem like he's saying uh rage is more of a Normal and cool emotion to feel meanwhile sadism is like wrong You shouldn't be feeling the idea that you want to be pleasureed from someone else's pain And therefore media exploring them needs to have like the same treatment when I would be like, I don't know This seems like these might be helpful Uh and niche right and and at the same time as that game we were describing earlier That's like 20 hours of simply torturing one person Not illegal. However, if say one of us was like that's my favorite game and I played all the time We'd all be like, okay All right. Yeah, so I guess would we would Well, my point is just like 15 he's a 20 If yeah, yeah, 15 hour torture would be okay, but that's fine. Yeah, my point would be that person probably, uh Maybe it is that game that's stopping them from doing something way worse. I don't know I hope the server stay up. Yep Breaking his own argument Because he's saying like he thinks Video games for people like for everyone first of all, but whatever He thinks that video games are an alternative to committing violence So but then he says oh, but no This other game is about sadism and while For everyone in the world video games are a release so that we don't do violent shit that we would We would be doing no matter what Sadism you can't possibly release that in a video game Like yeah, that's what I'm saying that what the fuck. Yeah. Oh, where are you? I'm sorry. Well, that's that's the conflict Like that's that's the point I mean that like there's no real distinction to me in like one you can channel into a video game and one you can't And and I'm guessing he's gonna try to account for that because that's it seems like a bit of a hole in the logic right now Sadism is not the same thing as anger not even close. I wouldn't even call it a universal human trait There's no way to channel sadism productively. It's simply about harm and the joy They don't agree. There's no way to channel it productively So here's what's interesting is that I was on the verge of bringing this thought up and sure enough I guess coming up now I was about to say that I think it's very easy for a there I think there's a thin line between sadism And our gratification for justice And I think that's how you channel sadism productively Um that I mean, it's obviously a shaky territory obviously But to say that there is no way to channel sadism in a productive way. I certainly don't agree I mean if you like if you have like dexter is obvious I I only I don't I've never seen the show. I just know the premise But he is like let's say you have a dexter character who is He is an actual sadist. He derives pleasure from suffering But he wants to channel that in a productive way So he only makes people who are really horrible terrible people suffer Like that seems to be at least in some way a productive Way of channeling their sadism. Yeah, whether or not you want to conclude It's unproductive in terms of like ill justice you'd be like, but there's some level of productivity there versus Uh doing it randomly Did you say um that it like there's a fine line between it and our desire for justice? Is that what you said? Well, like yeah, let's say you have um When someone goes out and does something this applies to targets So if you want to let you know, I I just literally didn't hear you I I'm not like trying to super characterize your argument like I did before All right. Uh, well, um, yeah, I was saying that's like there's gonna be a thin line between our pursuit of justice and the appearance of sadism Uh, whereas sadism can be used in a way towards A sense of justice where justice and sadism can differ Externally certainly uh, or at least in appearance by the targets they apply to Um, if you are only sadistic towards people who are guilty That is a perverted justice, but it is better than just pure sadism Um, I guess an example in practicality would be like if you have a security cam footage of a of a place in this person For the fun of it you find out pushes an old man over and he's like, ah Fuck and they laugh and then they see someone spot them So they run away they slip and they go headfirst into a wall and they're like, ah, fuck everyone's like Yeah, that's what you get your piece of shit play the same scenario And he falls Yeah, yeah, but then like armor compilations Yeah, whatever he's then another scenario as he falls into the road and a car runs over his head and splatters it And then it's people in the comment section like got what he deserved. I'd be like, whoa Yeah, because when we see the first guy get pushed over if you're if you are a sadist and you derive pleasure from that suffering Then you are just as pleased with that as you are the second guy moments later tripping himself the justice that this this desire for justice that's I don't want to say intrinsic, but it's certainly common in humans. We get a big, you know We get that karma catharsis when we see that other guy, you know getting his cosmic comeuppance Whereas that first guy who's just a victim of someone else's malicious malicious actions You know the sadist might get pleasure from that, but the justice part of us wouldn't Yeah, um, I like I think you could also Say that that's visible not just in violence, but like in doxing for example or in uh, like Cancel mobs and things like that. I think that's sort of a very similar thing Someone said justice is sadistic in nature in all cases. I definitely don't agree with that You can you can build systems for justice that are entirely Away from yeah about a thing crazy person because like the whole point of like Jailing people is not to like enjoy their suffering. It's to protect other people from them like that. Yeah It's just what they owe society that Like oh, it's not just jailing people like if you get defrauded Out of money and then you're made to pay back that money. That's justice and nobody goes to jail Like there's no sadism in that it's literally just hey Yeah, we have a concept of you know proving guilt and punishments that fit the crime and You know still having human rights while you're you know without the things of that nature Yeah, I think you're totally different. A lot of people will refer to it as your debt to society if you break society's laws Like yeah, it when someone says they've done their time that I assume they refer to like I have paid my debt Now I want to get back to you know, normalcy yeah Rather than people have taken their pleasure out of my punishment now It's like I don't I don't think I don't think that's what I'm referring to That's not what it is. Nobody even cares people don't pay attention Yeah, a lot of the time even when we talk about stuff like to debt the A death sentence that you give someone like if someone is found guilty of murder And so you have capital punishment done into them You would do so in a way that isn't sadistic like there are sadistic ways to kill people that I think that are far worse than Killing people in a you know a quick and painless way Um, I think that you know, even even regardless of what you think of a capital punishment Surely you could see how those two things are totally different And doing harm I usually don't like to make categorically dismissive statements like this But I think games that are exclusively about indulging in sadism do not have redeeming value indulging So like he needs to be already that's really loaded. Yeah I don't like to make categorical statements, but here's a really big category What do you think he's referring to? Like I like I guess the a very realistic or visceral portrayal of something So like the example we had I guess the 20 hour torture simulator like yeah, I something that is done for Seemingly that is done for no other purpose other than just to Act out torturing somebody Yeah And that's also a bold statement to make about a video game like his example is hatred and the game hadn't even come out Yeah, that's what I mean You really want to save this for something that you have full context over because there's quite a He's decided that it that it's nothing but indulgent in sadism, but it hasn't come out yet. He hasn't played it It's like oh, and not just that but that it but there's no chance it could be good It wasn't but still Someone said I will mention that it has been confirmed that lethal injection is not painless And has been described as your blood turning into fire. So there isn't really a painless execution as of yet So, yeah, that's not true. That's gonna be not true shot in the head. Well, yeah What if you're giving a drug that just sends you to sleep and then yeah one that kills you? Yeah, they put you that's sort of Done you that's sort of what lethal injection is. I don't think that that person knows And also for us to know what lethal injection feels like it literally means that that has to have come from someone that it failed on No, I didn't die I totally believe that injecting chemicals into somebody can be extremely painful But the argument isn't even based around that. That's not even yeah, the argument is you can't kill someone painlessly Which is like, yeah, you can Don't they use like benzodiazepines and stuff and like penta whatever I don't I don't know what they use But it I mean I could talk I I could totally believe that putting chemicals into someone could be painful Yeah, that's not I'm not worried about that part It's the death penalty is irreversible. What if later on it turns out the person was innocent Like I never said I was pro against the death Never in all of that might say if I was pro or against it. I'm against it But like it's not because Wow, I was like, yeah, I'm I'm not pro death penalty So, yeah, the what we got is there is a way to pain you to kill someone. That's all Sorry, do you do you guys know of contra points? Yeah, I've heard of her. Yeah Uh, she just did a video on justice not too long ago that actually touches on a lot of the things that uh rags is bringing up Excellent interesting By definition, they can't even teach us or make us think more deeply about the subject. What do you mean? What do you mean? So is he saying that if something it let's get that whole thing? Let me drag it back. Let me drag it back just a little bit to get that whole Because saying something cannot teach me something. Oh, you know a lot about me Yeah This but I think games that are exclusively about indulging in sadism do not have redeeming value by definition No, what if they're fun? Is he is he suggesting that if you find it fun, you're like you're a bad person Someone in chat a while ago in the stream said that Violence for the sake of violence is basically how we got just just look at doom. We're like, no, I wouldn't agree with that That's not violence for violence sake. That's violence for the sake of having fun That's trying to use violence in order to have fun Simulated sport violence for the so In the same way a game that I guess in his terminology indulges in violence Like that that's the redeeming quality that is that it's fun It it brings enjoyment to people He says like that's a real thing. Yeah, that's not a meaningless You know attribute something like Well, he says by definition The tendency to drive pleasure especially sexual gratification from inflicting pain suffering or humiliation on others So wouldn't like bdsm come into this If you derive pleasure from but or sexual gratification from inflicting humiliation on others Yeah Is he condemning that that's literally what bdsm stands for yeah, so So by definition is of course You know, this is fucking weird I think what's coming from in this particular instance is the usual perspective of A lot of these critics who believe that every single piece of work Which the medium that they prefer like video games or novels or whatever it is Each one of them should be addressing some sort of larger issue some sort of social issues of sort of grand Big big gigantic throbbing brain issue When it's not necessarily true, you don't have to have they don't have to have every novel be, uh, you know, the The grapes of wrath or something don't have to have every novel So most people did yeah You don't have to have to be be be for vendetta or something like that You don't have to Some things are just there that have redeeming value that have uh actually some value to them to the reader They don't actually have to go dive deep into the big brain nonsense. They don't have to uh Harp on the idea of uh, I don't know some sort of justice or injustice being Are coming commenting on some sort of political issue or something that some things can be dismayed to have fun with So indulge in some sort of primal instinct like uh, like the superhero novels or superhero comic books They're just there to watch a powerful good guy fight a mean Irredeemable bad guys why do you have two dimensional bad guys even today? Because sometimes it's just fun to indulge in a story But you don't have to have these complex issues or you don't have to feel sorry or empathize with the bad People like to feel justified in what they're doing exactly absolutely. Yeah Same thing with video games. You don't have to have a video game teach us something or to uh to help us understand something You can have a video game. It's like it's just like hey That's that you just commit violence and it's just fun and it's not hurting anybody. It's making a joke Whatever it is. It still has some redeeming value to it. It is might not be the redeeming value that Zero, uh, what is it? What are you called? Uh extra credit is looking for I uh, also, I mean, I've never looked into the definition What bdsm stands for I knew b was bondage. I didn't know the rest Yeah, that's that's his uh sadism. Well sado masochism is sm. But dick sex maneuvers say But yeah, sorry if I spoke over somebody there I just thought it was funny because chat. Well, like, how do you not know that? I was like, I guess I've never looked into what it stood for. I just knew what it was Yeah If you were gonna if you're gonna ask me what it was for I'd be like, I don't yeah You're not a weird like I'm sorry. That shouldn't kink shame But like if you're just specifically not into bdsm, there's no reason for you to know What it stands for or unless well, I think you could be into it and not know what it stands for, right? You could yeah, it's just always called bdsm. Yeah in every context. You just say bdsm um Yeah, um, I I mean we live in a world where a lot of people still don't know that michael Myers played both dr. Evil and austin powers. Yeah Like It was like a week ago I mentioned I thought about michael myers the character serial killer Yeah Yeah, that's him I want to I want to blow some people's minds because there's always someone who doesn't know this There's a couple of these sorts of things, but I was gonna call everyone chat is going wait. What really wait. What is the c? There you go Yeah, yeah, hell of people don't I didn't know wait. He did what we're gonna. We're gonna do another one. So a lot of people know that um What helped reinvigorate, uh, robertini juniors career was the combo of iron man and tropic thunder They happen. I think they're like literally around the same year They're both films that people consider like favorites from him And uh, he's like on top of the world now Did you also know that uh, tom cruise was in trouble career wise until tropic thunder, uh, picked him up And then he got a lot of different people got attention from that I told fringy that and he was like tom cruise is in tropics under he is Yeah, what he is He is okay Tom cruise is in tropics and this is not a troll whatsoever. Tom cruise is in tropics third. He's fucking great at it Yeah, he is great in that movie I want to silence. What's um, what's one of his quotes? I made an RPG like a little sample RPG game where I had a weapons store called BDSM You know blades daggers swords and maces. Oh, I love that. That's great. Hey, um, I'm sorry if uh I talk over anyone here, but I've got to go for a little bit. Uh, if you guys are still here in, uh A little while maybe like half an hour. I'd love. Oh, yes. We'll be here. No We'll be here All right. Well just in case you're not in just in case I don't uh come back It's been awesome. Thank you so much for having me. Uh, the chat's been really really nice to me I've seen comments that were really good You guys have been great and I like really really enjoy having like being able to talk about these, uh intellectually stimulating topics, uh Like this isn't something you get in day-to-day life, especially not in like quarantine really So like thank you super super much and I hope to come back in a little bit locally locally. Yeah, e-fap. You never know what's gonna be discussed We're all big brain intellectuals. Oh, yes, the biggest of brains. We even have satan I'm getting hearts. Oh my god. Thank you guys. You guys have a great audience. You guys have a great job I'll be back, uh, in a little bit. Yeah, let's see. Sure. Yeah, peace Um, so a quote from tom cruise in tropic thunders as an example Um, I will rain down an urtgon an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you You're gonna have to call the fucking united nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you I'm talking scorched earth motherfucker. I will massacre you. I will fuck you up It's like one of my favorite moments. It's so fucking good He's he goes nuts with it in that movie and I think it's part of what made people be like tom cruise is pretty awesome Actually, uh, yeah, and then mission impossible Dancing the ludicrous song and the credits was his idea. It's awesome I wonder what other obvious little things are out there that people just don't know Yeah, free. He didn't believe me I had to send him pictures and he still didn't believe me because of course he wouldn't and then I was like look closely Well, what he didn't believe that was tom cruise. No, he was he was having a lot of trouble with it But I think a lot of people do uh until interesting I mean, I don't mean he's got like prosthetic arms and shit Yeah, you could still seriously detect it's tom cruise though if you just look at it But I'm pretty sure when I first saw the movie it wasn't until the credits that I was like, oh, shit. That was tom cruise That's a good movie It is. All right back to extra credits and whatever this point was Do you think people know that alphabets come from the words alpha and beta? Wait, really? See there we go. There you go. Oh shit. I did not know that. Yeah That's why sometimes they call it alpha bet mega Include omega, but then they were like that's a bit that's a bit much You know, you know, you know what they're called screensavers Go on because they literally are designed to save your screen from having an image burned onto it Ah They're often dark and they're they move around and stuff That's smart. That was gonna be my monday answer. I thought it was gonna be someone else Yeah, they save your screen because as many of you know if you Leave your computer monitor on all the time, especially if it's a very light color next to a very dark color It will have that Kind of quote unquote burned into place. Yeah, my cell phone has the lift app like image burned into it Because you know, it has to stay on for so long if you That it uh, it's just burned in now one. I would I would give I'm gonna be giving this in years from now We all will but I want to do it now in cases any In cases or any zoom is running around Don't you know why we say rewind the video? Don't you know why we say that is because when we used to Rewind tapes it would actually wind film Back to okay grandpa We're gonna have to put you back in the home. I mean there's there'll probably come a time where we have to explain to people why we say hang up the phone And why we say you roll up your windows and things like that. Oh, here's a weird generational thing Apparently a lot of young kids now when they do like this like the hand gesture for holding a phone up to your hand Instead of using your thumb and your pinky. They just like have their open palm like it's a smart phone That's a weird thing and we all squid and pulled out our glasses like what's that? Why exactly what's that gesture you're doing there? Oh one thing I learned that most people don't know or maybe they don't know is that trees So trees don't grow like all at once they grow from the top So a branch at its height will always be at that height. It will never grow go up with the tree they grow from the top upwards So if you nail something into a tree as it grows, it'll always be at that height. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah Yeah And doing harm I usually don't like to make categorically dismissive statements like this But I think games that are exclusively about indulging in sadism do not have redeeming value By deafen that is such a statement to make holy shit Yeah, like I it's it's like man if if you want to say I don't normally do something However, this is such an incredible thing that I want to draw such attention to that I'm going to break my own rules to say it I feel like you haven't earned that No redeeming value. That's pretty categorical Mission they can't even teach us or make us think more deeply about the subject You can totally think deeply about sadism. There's no reason you can't I'd say that our conversation between sadism and justice or The way sadism can be expressed in different ways that's already deeper than nothing I just I just remember to have a book of facts and I've been neglecting it I'm going to catch up with the fact we're going to go through My grandpa's book of facts that he gave me Just a lie. Don't worry. Um Let's see. What am I on? We did the banana one. Um Oh, all right on average A twinkie will explode in a microwave in 45 seconds What setting Oh, I don't just average I guess average, okay Yeah, but I but this one this one is a bit more exact. So there are approximately 1,750 O's in every can of spaghetti O's Hmm The more you know Because as soon as you start to question these sadistic acts or think about the horror of the suffering you're inflicting The experience ceases to be about sadistic pleasure Uh So like I feel So I don't normal So it's generally like a special kind of game that makes you reflect on the suffering that you're inflicting Because most games don't want to be that Most games want to be simple and cathartic and stress relieving and fun And did you ever think about the pain of the zads you're knocking out and killing floor? It's like, well No, and it's like if someone said well, they don't feel pain I'd be like no, I'm pretty sure they kind of do actually but it's just not that's just not what the game is Does that make the game bad? It's like no I think extra credits would uh feel differently if he were a sadist Well, like you know that game we were just pitching the 20 hour torture one What if in the last 10 minutes they go the person goes you shouldn't have done this to me? It was horrible And then it ends Well, mind blown torture is bad. Whoa. Hold on hold your horses. Hold a moment here. Yeah, I don't know 20 hour torture game But at the same time though, we can have those conversations even if the game doesn't necessarily present them Like what if we did discuss if zads could feel pain and they used to be human and what we're doing in the game Do you think it's still viable and ethical and stuff? We could we could talk about how it is or isn't Oh, well, I'm glad you brought that up. Malibu because someone said what if in a game enemies in that game called out each other's names Yeah, that'll make you think about it, huh? My life turned flipped right upside down Yeah Like doom we're just tearing through the shit the idea that like if the game doesn't force you to think about a thing Rather than you just thinking about a thing I don't know. I just think this is way too restrictive right now It becomes an experience about understanding the nature of sadism And maybe you could build something of value from that but a game that's just about the thrill of sadism I see no value there. So that you literally answer your question the thrill of sadism That's your answer because it's fun That that's it and it's so weird because that's Primarily what a game should be Is fun and he's like I just don't see how could how could something just be fun? It says the person Acting like he's an authority on video games It's so weird as well because we're with what lines he's drawing and where would be incredibly complex It's like this scenario person with gun is coming to kill this innocent guy who's done nothing You're like, okay, what if the guy killed his wife? It's like, well, that's Different like yeah, but what if it's still a sadistic motivation like they just want to cause this person suffering and enjoy it Is that okay? Or is it not? He's like if he says no, that's not okay either. I'd be like, okay What if this person killed the guy's entire family? It's like still not okay What if this person and you just keep cranking it and until you discover it's like wait So it's just like justice and revenge kind of just get thrown into this big Sort of washing machine of what exactly is actually happening We don't really know what you have an issue with specifically because the idea that a game only celebrates Sadism it's like what game are you referencing and it's not hatred. He doesn't have one. Yeah, he doesn't have a game at all It's just purely hypothetical if there were game that were hypothetically nothing but indulgence in the thrill of sadism He wouldn't like it and it's like cool. What game is that? Oh, you don't have it Yeah, because I'm trying to like that example we came up with It's like nobody's no one's made that game, right? Want to point out this really excellent comment in chat someone uh, oh robert here He's saying uh quote. I don't see the value of a horror movie that scares me Yeah, I'm being scared. It's no a horror movie that just scares me no redeeming quality If however the horror movie was about the nature of fear and how we can overcome it then that would be valuable But if it's strictly about scaring you then it's not Like this fucking donut hole doesn't understand that this is this is exactly what people said about friday the 13th And all the slasher movies that it's just it's it's gory. It's messy. There's just no redeeming value to it It's destructive on society. They're regarded as silly cult classics today But this is exactly what they said about horror movies I'd be interested to see how he could count to that because I don't think he can with this sort of structure If I just you know categorically say like those films are without value because they they're uh celebrating violence Like it's just killing that's all it is and people are supposed to enjoy Watching miga maya's slash people to death or jason which one's friday the 13th? That's jason, right? Yeah, yeah, so uh that makes them categorically bad because we're not having parts in the film where they explain that what jason's doing is not right God hellraiser yeah, imagine what extra credits thinks about hellraiser like this ain't the first time that that Extra credits has become jack thompson Who's that like it all loops back around he was what he was a big crusader against video games Oh, he was a lawyer right in the early day. Yeah, he was one of the he's the the go-to for you know the Concerned boomer who wants to take things away from people. Yeah At least those people reference specific games in specific movies extra credits. It's just like hypothetically This fictional game that does not exist would be bad Oh cool Thanks, this this is a productive use of time every time someone tries to draw a line for this shit It's like incredibly difficult to not accidentally just squash a whole bunch of things that are commonly accepted to be more than You know fine like doom I feel like doom is going to be flushed out the fucking window at this point if if It's not going to be too hard to argue the same thing for doom. I guess what i'm saying and plenty of people did There doesn't say to be any underlying principle here no it's just um Hurting people or causing them pain for your pleasure is a bad and he's saying that if that's all the game is about Then that game is bad. It's just like I feel like this is a bit We're missing a lot of nuance here I'm not even sure if such games can serve as an outlet for sadistic urges I mean anger can be internal it can be focused at the world rather than an individual And it could be expressed in ways that do no harm. I can't you argue, but I can't expect What so you could paint that does no harm, but you can't play a video game I don't know if you play a video game about sadism as an outlet That literally doesn't know when any harm So if we I don't and also I don't know if you want to be advocating Get a bunch of angry sadists go out and protest. We saw how that turns out I just don't understand. Well, he's saying that's not even possible. You seem like sadism can't be expressed Like you know, that's not true at all. That's what I mean. I'm confused. I'm like wait You don't think how many sand or co-ins of the world are there and why can't you just paint to express your Deep reference boys. It's not that deep, is it? I mean, you know, a lot of people might know where it's from, but they don't remember the actual character, perhaps For what his whole thing was. Yeah, or what his whole thing was. Yeah, it's Um, any sander co-ins in chat? This is a lot of people associate really uh, yeah, so A sadist who really wants to cause pain in people in order to feel pleasure What do you think they're gonna be making art about and why wouldn't they be able to? Very weird that you just like say that that just can't be an outlet. I don't understand that at all Yeah, you could even paint it if you wanted to that's what I mean just The simple suggestion of you paint a scene of sadism taking place. Wouldn't that be what a sadist might do? I mean if you wanted to paint violent depictions of what he what he really wishes What if what if his creation of the depiction of violence satisfies In a fake way, but still satisfies his desire to see violence And be internal it could be focused at the world rather than an individual and it could be expressed in ways that do no harm A sadistic experience though is by definition about hurting a person a real person. No, it's not by definition It's not about hurting a person Oh, you could hurt people in a myriad of ways that are totally justified and have nothing to do with sadism Humiliation is in the definition Yeah, it's about the pleasure that you derive from these things which that's the sadism It isn't the violence itself, which means you can simulate it and no one would be hurt Exactly different in anger in that respect. Yeah, I I this is so strange Can a game really provide an outlet for that? Yes, I'm not entirely convinced a game about sadism will offer much more than titillation for the full-blown You how can you even say that's better than nothing, isn't it? There's so much so much wrong with this though to be like, I'm not a sadist and I think sadists are bad However, I don't think sadists would be satisfied with a game built for their sadism. You're like, what? It's like I want you to make an argument for me why it works for rage, but not for sadism Yeah, and even if it only works to a twinge like an inch of of their desires are satisfied like isn't that worthwhile I'm going to extra credits Extra credits his own argument This doesn't make any sense because his own argument so far has been you play video games so that you can Expend or expend your outrage on video games instead of, you know, the real world But you can't do that for sadists for some reason like for sadism You have a sadist game. No sadism sadists You have to go on the real world and get your your kicks up on real people, but The video games, okay, expelling your anger on video games. That's only for people who are just angry He doesn't have any examples of no stick video games And he doesn't know any people that are sadists to ask about so he's just it's completely hypothetical If he was to reference a single piece of media as strictly sadism I feel like the people in chat at least being like, whoa, that is not what that's about Exactly. He has nothing I feel like this video is like a really lazy shitty version of an aiden paladin video Where he has like studies and links to sources and things that she explains Yeah, he's just talking out of his ass about a thing that is not in any way substantiated You also find it interesting that in his little drawing here the sadist seems happy Yeah, the sadist is being satisfied. No one is being harmed the economy is being simulated. Yeah What's the issue? And if this say this is like, I'm gonna talk to just five people today instead of six You're like, oh shit the game actually did something improvement. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's safe one person. We're on the way Maybe we should have more sadistic games I don't know like you're gonna have to point me to like I mean, sure. I guess it would be better if there were no sadists, but there are so we've got to deal with them And we're not gonna execute them in roving bands of sadism detectors. So what about some sadistic games that might do it Just like okay compare these sorts of games to your standard violent game And I don't mean the cartoony sort of violence that okay. No hang on You can't do that mortal combat has been the target of like crazy people saying it's gonna cause People to do violence for like centuries. Well decades. I think it was I think the first or second one that was banned in places But yeah, mortal combat is also one of those go-tos for censored because of Yeah, and I'll be we laugh at it now because of how archaic it looks to us In the new ones. There's some fatalities that make me go like, oh Oh, yeah, like I don't even oh for me. I don't even watch that. That's just exactly So the idea that he's like, oh come on. We all know mortal combat isn't that bad? It's like, whoa now We're how are we doing these lines? Imagine if you showed the new mortal combat like fatalities to just someone who'd never played video games before Like that's how you instantly make them never like video games ever Yeah, and he's limiting himself even further like he already didn't have any examples But now it's like, okay, so it can't be over the top violence It has to be realistic violence too So the potential games that could even fall into this category is even less now If mortal combat is cartoony like a lot of the violence in real combat is very real They'll like stab someone in the throat rip off their head because they vote they're strong characters I just mean that it's like over the top not necessarily But um at the same time It's about the consequences of that violence. They're depicted in realistic ways. So it's why it hurts so much And what if our theoretical sadist loves mortal combat because it's sadism? Like he says like I love booting up the game and then playing against a bot on easy And getting them into the fatality state so I can perform fatalities on them And if his response was well, the game isn't strictly about that. I'd be like the sadist is like, I don't care Like that's yeah, that's the part that I like Yeah, that's I mean, I mean got other stuff too. I guess and if extra credit is like, yeah Well, that's okay. We can satisfy the sadists with violent games But if we have strictly sadistic games, what is a strictly sadistic game that actually exists though We can only satisfy the sadists if we also mix in a bunch of messages And artistic qualities to them We need to have politics and all of our games And politics needs to be just hand-fisted into all of our games Well, if you remember these are the people who said you need to tell people when nazis are bad So In the scenes where they rip off heads in all combat, you need like a little tooltip to come up saying you shouldn't do this Yeah, a little twitter disclaimer. Did you know that murder is bad? Oh really? The experts have contested Yeah, experts have contested that murder is good. Here are links to three studies about ripping heads off and how it's unpleasant And why you random citizen should not do that. Please don't That's purposefully abstracted to discourage you from thinking of the violence and realistic terms Well, how about you speak to all of the people who morally got outraged about the fucking game when it came out? How about that? Experts have confirmed that burning someone's face off with mold and fire breath is not the way to go I just I think this is your first beheading. Would you like help? I just feel as though extra credits doesn't even realize the place in history that you're currently occupying If you zoom out of the timeline, you are just what they were like 20 years ago about mortal combat But now you're about something else and you're just sitting there without realizing it. It's like you're just you've just updated That's all you've done I mean your standard violent game where the rage and reality of the violence are front and center visceral Even in those games, you're usually fighting for a cause the end Oh, yeah, what if I'm what if I'm protecting the third rike against these foreign invaders? This video came first so maybe extra credits hadn't like extra credit was like, oh, shit We accidentally argued that it's okay to experience fun and violence if you fight for the Nazis even And we're not allowed to do that. That's really bad And I he did not see they updated their uh, their position on this you see Isn't simply the thrill of violence itself But at least the veneer of saving the world freeing your people or defending your country I'm sorry. I don't necessarily think about any of that when I play called Yeah, because I know it's I'm not saving my country when I'm playing a world war two game Like I'm not and like I'm not an idiot Especially if it's multiplayer on line and also no story to really How many how many germans in the wehrmacht thought that they were saving their country like we you want to go down this route of Okay, yeah, all right. We you don't want to go there But if you want to we could discuss this that's the thing in the campaign You'll have moments of being like, oh, shit, you know, dave don't die I want to save them. Oh if we don't press the button in time, you know New york will explode or something that you can have stakes like that But in multiplayer, come on. Nobody's sitting around thinking like we got to win this for america So it's not happening But of course he needs that for the argument I would say To make it seem uh more detailed and deep than simply I'm firing my gun and having fun with it Which for some reason makes you a bad person at this point It's just all of these things they allow they they visually in Audio Lee I don't even know what that word would be They like they contextualize what essentially the code is because the mechanics is just code Which to our human brains won't really make a lot of sense in and of itself. So that's why we have models That's why we have sounds. That's why we have things that we could see We put all these things into stories and the scenarios that we can relate with and that are easy for our brains to accept and so That's where that comes from when we start out It was like simple blocks with simple shades because that's the best we could put up with and eventually we've moved on to Hey, what if I could have miss you into thinking you're in a like a war Orally audio would be orally orally orally not orally my mind went there though orally. There you go The problem is my accent. They are the same Orally orally and orally Because or like so well, that's why a lot of people in the music industries They get me too because they ask a woman to come over for some oral and it gets misinterpreted And then they get their careers lost In sadism games though the goal of violence is the hurt it causes one of these sadism games, please Please Is the violence no the violence is a means to an end which is ultimately getting people to buy the game But it's it's really it's having fun The problem with this video That is argument because a big crux of it relies on there being a difference between Things that appeal to you to satisfy your anger and things that appeal to satisfy something more What we would consider maybe vile like sadism, but he gives examples of like gta for your for your anger expulsion However, he doesn't mean to give examples of sadistic games, which hatred however is not it's not a sadistic game I mean it looks like that but it's really just goofy. It's really more goofy than it is sadistic But other than hatred he gives nothing nothing else Well, you just made me think about how um in outlast the dlc I think there's a scene where you're about to get your dick chopped off. It's kind of uh Kind of intense for players who think it's might might happen And of course the game is built around putting you in scenarios that are supposed to terrify you, right? What if someone made the argument of like well, that's not worthwhile It's just depicting horrible horrible things just to get you to feel horrible or something. I should be like What would his count to be? If it's just code if it's a text Even text to speech if it was just purely you're just watching the code flashing and scrolling on the screen Of that event happening in that format. You wouldn't have any Connection to it. It wouldn't do anything and I feel like if he was to say, yeah, that would be one I'd be like, oh boy. I'm ready to argue the shit out of why outlast Has value even to someone who thinks it's a shitty game I'll do it. Don't make me and And I and I don't like his his overall point. I feel like is a super over simplification of the concept of like he He I don't even know how to really Say it he talks about like violence for its own sake and just violence for violence But I think that whenever you play a shooter Whenever you play a call of duty or a splatoon or an apex or anything any kind of shooter There's like these dual aspects of strategy and application of skill That are yes, these really on the fly problem. Solvings that your brain has to deal with Why being the smarter player Will Allow you to do better Even if you're bad at the hand I court if you're bad at the application of skill aspect of it The aiming the pointing the reloading the timing yada yada, but you play really smart and you're very strategic You can do better than players Who aren't as smart as you and I think that these It's it's like a mini puzzle in your brain every other second. Where am I going? Why am I going there? Do I reload now? Do I manage my equipment in this way? And then that's interspersed with the the the more visceral Applications of skill, which is you using your hand-eye coordination to execute tasks Which it's a it's a constant Flow of challenges that your brain gets to overcome and to solve That is the appealing aspect and the violence is just how that's dressed up because the violence is ultimately Just a framing device for competition. Well, that's that's what I was trying to bring up about the flower comparison I was trying to say like if your enjoyment of flower is on on a mechanical level And someone's like I don't want to play it because gay and then you flip all the assets to be Uh zombie ones and they're like, oh, I like this now And it was the mechanics were fine the whole time. They just wanted a different skin Like they were enjoying the mechanics. They just want it in a package that they find more appealing Than a bunch of flowers. Um, and I was going to bring this up about the the torture thing we were doing So like the the 20 hour torture game. What if The mechanics of torturing this person are really well integrated and actually difficult Like you have to keep harming them, but you have to keep them alive. And so it's a whole system Of different different people respond to different kinds of torture differently You have to keep a track of their shock their heartbeat the different Drugs you're giving them to keep them alive and then what you chop off at what times needed Like I know this sounds disturbing, but you understand that someone could argue The part of the game they enjoy is not actually the torture itself. It's just the management Yeah, it's going off that point that game would not fall under his category His category is games that are only about the thrill of sadism So any game at all that has like tactics Strategy and all the stuff rags was just talking about wouldn't qualify So the only game that would hypothetically fall into his Category is a game where like press x to torture and then you just watch torture happen Yeah, there's no yeah There's no like if a game doesn't have a fail state Then our our brain understands that we couldn't lose which means the point of the challenge is like we want to win In most of maybe even more importantly a lot of us. We like to be told that we won um But just the the the presentation of this competition through A hundred different little challenges and problem solving tests that happen in any multiplayer game They're so appealing to so many people that To just say that it's just violence on screen is a huge oversimplification That's really an insult to the media and it's that this is the kind of thinking that you're That your mom would say because who doesn't understand games Who thinks every console's a nintendo who doesn't who pokes her head into your room? It looks at the screen and sees you shooting and thinks that it's just dumb stupid violence And there's no thought behind it at all That person that mom and this guy at the podium interchangeable entirely in this scenario That was um a suggestion we had for amnesia rebirth wasn't it like they could have had a sequence We have to work hard to be able to get extract the uh vitae But the whole time we realized that In order to achieve our goals Someone is getting tortured and that we have to try and put it in the back of our mind in order to save the lives of Ourselves and the baby sort of thing um But obviously rebirth sucks. So uh a lot of people are just discussing different games that kind of present um torture mechanics in and they usually in the context of you have to do it for x reason Um, or it could not it doesn't even necessarily have to be that I wonder if a game can even as as capital Opinions was kind of bringing up couldn't even qualify at this point because There's always going to be a mechanic elements, which means there's usually going to be a fail state Not always but in some way that requires you to do something and if you can derive enjoyment from simply satisfying tasks um Then the only thing that would qualify is just emit like like video of someone being tortured Like that's the only thing that would qualify like you spend all your day on live leak or some shit That's the game like yeah, because if there's a game to be played at all in the video game Then that's its own redeeming quality And if you ever ask someone in a game like let if you play a game and you win and someone asks you Why did you win that game? Like how did you win? You're never going to say because I was more violent than the other team It's almost explicitly because I channeled my Actions in a way that were far more productive than the other team did I outfought them. I outsmarted them. I outplayed them. I had better hand-eye coordination than they did It's all these things mixing together, but no one is no one would ever Want to or probably even say that my Violence was just better like you could just dumb it down to that kind of level. Yeah I was more sadistic and that's I was more sadistic. Yeah At that point I wonder if this argument would be like nobody would say that about a heavily sadistic game And I should be like so we just got to find one person to do it and your argument falls apart. That's it One person to play this ridiculous sadist game that says yeah, I didn't really get a sadistic enjoyment out of it I was just enjoying the mechanics. It's like, oh fuck well It's about creating pain and fear. There's no redeeming purpose There's no question of whether anything justifies this sort of harm. What if you have those questions though? Yeah, it's like I my fun Justifies it. It justifies my time. I mean a thing doesn't have to A video game doesn't have to quote unquote justifies. That's a weird terminology You'd have to know what you actually mean by that But it justifies my time if I have fun and if nobody's getting hurt then you're gonna have to You really work hard to explain to me why that's bad I find this interesting as well because if you know like the deleted scene for captain marvel with the dawn There's been a lot of discussion that's come out about that about what you what she did whether or not It was legal and then of course whether or not you consider it moral and based on whether or not The the prior events Can justify it ever and then what the histories of these characters might be All of that came from a scene where someone made it because they wanted to have like a girl power moment. That was it Yeah, so what i'm getting at here is like the conversation about a piece Could totally beat least someone was like is that why the piece is worthwhile? I should be like, well, I mean I think it's interesting that it existed right because we all got to have this sort of breakdown The idea that it can't produce any value because it's not trying to create that conversation It's really interesting when we have so many examples in history of content that wasn't gunning for x but it ended up getting x Just because of how it was built A game that's like that torture game we've been talking about and building up over this whole podcast Um, I kind of want to play it now It would I feel like it would strike a major conversation Like people would be talking about it for a while if it was a really well made and really interesting mechanically You could get dlc uh different packs, you know people you can torture If it was if it was a level within another really big game And it was you know that thing that everyone talks about absolutely different tools different utensils You can do you could download different eras of time As you play through you you have like weak targets than bigger and stronger or more resilient ones until you get like An alien who's immune to pain you have to find a way to torture it to get information you have to emotionally torture it Yeah Well, I think when soba did that right so do you we have to you have to coax information out of a Victim technically speaking by manipulating them as best you can That that's a moment that makes you feel pretty bad And then the the choice of whether to delete him or shut him down I like soma. I don't know if I mentioned that soma's great everyone plays soma Because the harm is an end in itself now. I understand this end. No, that's this is a super over He does he keeps doing it. He just says the harm is just the end Like no, that's what's happening. The end is basically it's not even up to the thing as to what the end is Like i'm kind of the determinant in what the end is if I enjoy it then the end is essentially my enjoyment What if like yeah, what if you you were like, oh you play a lot of killing floor Like you just have a lot of hatred in your heart. I'd be like what the fuck I just no it's fun. There's a lot of skill and strategy and tactics in it It's like well, I guess you're thankful game like this exists What's to ban hatred? Am I I'm assuming this is this is going to be he's saying he doesn't want to ban these games Oh, okay Is an end in itself now understand this doesn't mean that these games have no right to be made Every game even the most debased has a right to be expressed But that doesn't mean we have to give them a megaphone It doesn't mean we have to reward them financially and it doesn't mean that store is operated isn't that all on us then Yeah, then i'll be the one to decide that thank you if I want to buy it Then let me buy it and if you don't want to buy it then you don't have to buy it Don't take away my ability to buy something. Well, he's saying he wouldn't but at the same time What is the point of this video other than to say you probably shouldn't What he's saying is like well, we don't have a right to give him a megaphone We don't have a right. He's like, uh, you I think I know what you're trying to say here I think I can read between the lines here and my private companies are obligatory He literally said it's without value I'll think I'll I think I'll I'm capable of deciding what does and doesn't have value to me Thank you very much because even though we said we probably have a preference for people not Encouraging the torture game at the same time I'd be interested to see people talk about it Yeah, like I think it's it would be a very interesting vehicle for discussion And honestly if you don't want people to play it then banning it from steam and vespai and other like, you know like Trying to cancel it essentially is gonna make think of all the shitty games that release on steam every day that are horrible Yeah, nobody like I would never know that gay world existed unless somebody talked about it specifically I'm like, oh, there's a game called gay world and like, oh, I'm the gay police Also, if I said to you, uh, I do not want to ban it But I want it removed from gog wool mop vespai steam target of the rest Wouldn't you guys be like, wait, you just can't be on youtube or twitter Okay, your own target you sell there yours because the best argument he has now is oh, I want it to be sold Sure, but only in like a random bargain bin in one shop in the world, you know, like right Nobody can buy it. Well, you remember that scene from life of brian We're at the they're at the coliseum and that one guy wants to be that one dude He wants to be called loretta and and he can't actually be a woman He can't actually have babies, but they agree the gd and people's front They agree that he should have the right to have babies in it even if he can't It kind of reminds me of that It's like, oh no, you you shouldn't be you you can't buy it You can't go get it But you should you should have the right to be you know bought and sold But we're gonna basically make it impossible for it to be bought and sold like removing this game from steam That's already like wow. I don't uh, hmm. Okay. Well, it's like if you get rid of someone's twitter account Like that's a big deal Yeah, like not having access to those tools and those connections and those peoples and conversations like that's a that's a big deal That's a big chunk of audience that you just denied someone to be able to have To carry them There's a reason that much of our culture is founded on a work exploring questions of violence and rage It's an essential part of who we are and without understanding this part of ourselves We can never we tie this back to the iliad. I was gonna say that was that was quite the way to do that I just suddenly iliad Also, there's basically zero connection here whatsoever He just sort of mentions it forgets about it and then he re mentions it again And you're like, what was the connection here? Oh, basically zero. All right This chick here like what the fuck is going on with this chick's face Jesus Christ Oh my god Cackles like a witch My my torture game She's the one who made this That's the character you play as and yeah, he plays the wicked witch That's her they're fucking yeah, it's good end of the day Well, as people are saying I should I should gidelb the iliad. What what exactly is what what should I gidelb in terms of a sentence about the iliad? You just like bring up bring up something like intellectual or like literary in the beginning You make the whole video and at the end of the video you bring it back to give the illusion of structure That's that's what it seems the point is of the iliad to me 20 minute video mentioned the iliad for the first minute or so it didn't spend like 18 minutes Discussing your politics or whatever it is You know, I hear the thing I really hate this guy and then at the end last minute you bring it back to the iliad and kind of close it up Connect it at the beginning at the end Yeah, you know if it comes back to where it started that means it was structured the whole time If you randomly bring it up at the end like you randomly started with it. That's yeah, that's great That's like a roadmap you're following. Oh, I know you don't wish to devil one of our latest efs Uh, we were covering somebody who was shocked to discover that god has the power to erase memories He was like, I could believe it Yeah, it was it was a stulture critic if you could believe it. He was like, oh, so god can just erase people memories now Yeah, you can Yeah, you can do a lot of ridiculous things. Yeah, you'll you'll get around the world and create the universe, but literally god I feel like yeah, that's one of those ones where he'd be like, yeah, I could knock that out. Yeah Yeah, that's easy. Yeah, sure. I mean I could delete your whole brain if I wanted to but we'll just take some memories Give you the old jobe's wife treatment. I know lots wife. I'll give you the old lots wife treatment. Turn your brain to salt God has like a switch in his room. He's like I could literally stop the universe Where does to you? It turns your brain to pure salt. There's a universe off switch here I could flip it at any moment. Our podcast turns some people's brains into pure salt True Come a society we can never become a community. There's nothing wrong. Okay, wait. I want to roll him back We can never become a community Was made while obligated community to carry them there's a reason that much of our culture is Why would you always have to be a community all of a sudden? Like there was no community before the Iliad like, all right I was I want to know if that's what he was saying It doesn't mean that stores operated by private companies are obligated to carry them There's a reason that much of our culture. Well, it's like here's I I know we'll have to redo it again But just to reiterate the point like these are the people who say private companies private companies private companies But they try to deny other people the right to a thing because they don't like it and that's ultimately the big issue Like if you don't fucking like it, don't buy it if I am interested in it I will buy it that looked like the interesting way angle. He came at that He's like steam doesn't have to support the selling of your sadism game And it's like at the same time you can't force steam not to so But that's what he wants to do. He wants. Oh, you bet. They do Rated by private companies are obligated to carry them There's a reason that much of our culture is founded on a work exploring questions of violence and rage It's an essential part of who we are and without understanding this part of ourselves We can never become a society if it's an essential part of who we are We didn't need a book to tell us about it Also, we come to become a society without understanding the violent parts of ourselves Which was spearheaded by the Iliad. It's like, okay, you say a lot of things right now Yeah, I don't think that you have like any legs to stand on I feel like this isn't to deny the importance of the Iliad, you know culturally and historically but Yeah But there's so many things tied together like we can't form a society if we don't recognize our own darkness And we only understand our own darkness because of the Iliad specifically So there were societies before the Iliad gonna put it out there I feel like if it's intrinsic to us, then we don't even need a book to explain it Like I feel like it's just yeah, there it is Yeah, if someone was able to write it as a rule they probably came about it before the Iliad We can never become a community There's nothing wrong with this and violence as an expression of anger as well as violence in the name of a cause Are incredibly important things for us to consider in the world today The question of when is violence in the name of a cause actually a lie? We tell ourselves in order to act out the violence of mr. It's all a lie games. It's all a fucking lie It's all a framing device for mechanics. You fucking Jesus fucking Christ, he's making the sound as though there were examples of this. Give me an example of when Examples are amazing. You you guys want video making advice examples Examples are amazing because it's just too far even though the of course message in that fucking game is violence and revenge bad Like I just I wonder what give me an example. I beg you I want to know what you think represents this shit Misdirected anger that's one of the defining questions of the 20th and 21st century If not of human existence and these are things that video games let us explore They help us to understand and wrestle with this emotion as art has Why would you put your why would you put the handles on the paint? Yeah, that is actually kind of annoying to see hopefully that's all right. Oh god asking the true the hard questions here Oh Since the beginning of recorded history and they help us channel and express and dissipate this emotion when we need to They provide catharsis as art always has I would never say art is always provided catharsis I mean art will also enrage you Yeah, like He skips over the point where video games literally can make people angrier Yeah, I'd say that's a pretty major part to this that he needs to address actually How many people have to stop playing games because they get so upset Like I have to do that sometimes I get so fucking pissed off. I just have to stop playing or play something else Yeah Definitely have to all of us. I would I would be surprised to find a single person who's played a shit ton of games And never stopped playing out of frustration Some games don't even fucking work that could be pretty annoying Some games make you play as abby and What's that about? I would never say you shouldn't get this game just because it's violent, but say yes, you are That's what this whole video is about This whole video is about you condemning games because you apply because you say without any justification whatsoever that they have No value whatsoever implying that no store should have to sell these That's that's what this whole video is In fairness, he's saying violent games are cool. Say sadistic games are not easy to follow Yeah, but what is a sadistic game? It's going to be a sadistic game Ah But other than that, he's he's given no other no other It's the only example and it hadn't even come out yet It's funny that you said about that like a sadistic game. You're like, oh, yes much like the these other examples Oh And I think we'd all agree that whatever he chooses as long as it's a game that one of us four have played We will be able to explain how sadism is not the only angle in the game exactly Any game that is a game wouldn't fall into that category Is cruelty and if you're excited about a game that's purely about the thrill of sated so you can't So I guess now we have to like what what you define is cruelty like is simulated cruelty his btsm cruelty is that the same? Like how can you be cruel in a video game if it's against NPCs? Like I could see how you could be cruel to another human being in a multiplayer game Sure, you know like kids torturing animals and shit and parents like, oh fuck like that's bad because that's a common indicator For they're gonna be crazy when they're older. Um, what if they do it in a video game? Uh, I feel like this is these are hard questions You're like, hmm Like if there's you you manage to fuck with your game enough or mod minecraft in some way that You exclusively torture animals just to listen to them cry If your kid was doing it, you'd be like, whoa I'm just gonna pay attention to you. I'm gonna watch you like a hawk and just make sure you don't start doing any shit in real life At the same time If if he was like, we see we should we should get rid of these games I'd be like, I mean it's better than the kid doing it in real life. I don't know Because obviously we have to go to really crazy extremes to be able to even come up with examples Because we got none And apparently they didn't either This thing if you make a video and all people could say is man He had too many examples to prove his point like man, awesome Yeah, that's a better problem to have Instead of what the fuck does he mean does this even exist? Is cruelty and if you're excited about a game that's purely about the thrill of sadism I would probably ask you why Because the only joy in a sadistic game is the joy found in hurting other people Okay, but what if that helped them understand themselves? Yeah, it sounds like value to me. Yeah, what if they stopped doing it because they realized The only joy in a sadistic game comes at the expense of like pixels It's not like It's not real suffering if it's Well, yeah, the theory what if this kid who tortures the animals in Minecraft never does it in real life and That's that what happens then. What do we say? You say, oh, that was kind of weird. That was kind of weird And maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that's a joy for most of us Oh, someone's someone's just asked me with um The flash game called interactive buddy. I think I know what that is It's another one where you have a little dude and you have a drop-down list of ways to hurt him And um, that was a flash game. I remember playing it You it would be like you have a flamethrower and he's like He runs around that you have like you fill the room with water or or shoot him with a gun And he'll just like fall over or do the joy of the game is seeing what the animations would be Or seeing what the results of the screen would be because you know that the guy is not actually real like That's probably why um The example uh for the film kept coming up Other people were referencing because uh, what was it called the ender's game you were saying? So the the idea that a random person is presented with this game. It's like this is a little buddy on screen. He's like a little little uh Stickman it's like you press file or open and it's like knife and you click that and you have a knife And if you click it swings and you're like, huh, what do I do? What happens if I swing at him and then he goes blah and runs around You know like what else do I have flamethrower gun minigun? Grenades he's like, huh? And you try it all out is extra credits man looking at you like wow you're a fucking psychopath Or are you just like I'm just curious what happens that I'm interested in the graphics. What like This is not something like Jesus. Why I want to talk to people Yeah, I would never want to hurt somebody if this was a real person. I wouldn't be here doing this Freak and maybe the animation is funny And maybe seven minutes is not enough to talk about something like this Maybe just maybe maybe no work is not enough work to discuss this topic We'll see you next week I'm sorry, can I just want to hear the last sentence like what this is the last actual Joy in a sadistic game is the joy found in hurting other people and maybe I'm wrong But I don't think that's a joy for most of us We'll see you next week. That's why most of us don't Engage in truly sadistic activities The reason is there's genres and stuff like that and it's sub-genres Small small audiences, but niche audiences Yeah, the only way awful video the only way that you could be right is if his definitions are like Like a tautology Like if he says like if we all agree that this thing is a bad thing To engage in then it's a bad thing to engage in like that's all he's got It's really wrong The game is a opposed to his personal morality. So therefore it is universally bad But malla, you're absolutely right about the whole tautology thing because this whole point is Appeal to authority. It's appeal to popularity. The whole point is that this hypothetical game that does not exist No, no, no, I'm not not appeal to authority. He's he's suggesting like these are all my definitions um, or popularity of the way By definition He is is all all he's concluding is what he's agreed. The definition is Exactly not him Huh? The thing you said about if we all agree that something's okay. Oh, no, that's just that was the semantics of how I was pretending to be him Like he's he doesn't actually care if you agree or not I don't even know why I don't even think he could convince himself why he agrees. Oh, yeah No, that's why I think he threw that in at the end where he was like, I might be wrong It's like you don't think you're wrong Yeah, like I I I Well the assertion that one can well saying that I can be wrong is different than saying I can't be wrong No, I know I'm suggesting that he doesn't think he might be wrong He's oh, yeah, I I totally think he's in the right on this But that's you know all the things people like it's not a position where he's like I've come to this conclusion But I don't think it's a fully realized position. Yeah, I think he's like this is right But I mean, yeah, I guess, you know, oh, yeah, he is in no way like even begun to convince really Certainly not me of anything if he's trying to convince people of a point then fucking hell Like you haven't even begun to do any work on that To go off your point moller because it absolutely is a tautology. It's This hypothetical game that I can't provide any examples of Is a vehicle only for sadism and it would be bad because it's a vehicle only for sadism And any reasonable person watching goes okay, but no games like that. So what's the point of this video and There's nothing I mean if you want to say I mean if this is a video if this video is like a warning for the future game developers out there And it would make more sense that the game hasn't been made yet I think is like maybe we should explore why um, well, let's think this applies to movies and games almost every movie in almost every game contextualizes the violence in itself to be either justified or explained in some way it's not just mindless violence against innocent people Yeah, and when that happens it is depicted as bad A bad thing that's what the villains do And I think there's probably a really it's probably a really obvious reason, but there's definitely a reason why that happens Um, I can't think of any games where you kill innocent people and that's the point Well, so but in the examples we've been trying to come up with the one that the one that we invented and the one I was just talking about with the the buddy that you torture Quote unquote. Um, there's another one people are linking where it's like an itch.io game where it's like a body held up by Ropes and you can just take a chainsaw or whatever to it and watch all the skin and different things fall off and get Fucked up basically, right? That's the game is to just see the effects of the different torture devices on the body um You could I like again people playing it out of pure curiosity Like what kind of mechanic is this going to look? What is this going to have an effect on in terms of the body and if someone's like, well, you enjoy torturing people I could totally see someone be like, well, no, this is just fantasy. Like I'm not I would never do this I'm just curious about the game and how it works and everything I don't even think an actual sadist would enjoy that game because there's no suffering being done Maybe that's what they get off on I assuming if that's what sadism is. Yeah, then the fact that it isn't real wouldn't scratch that itch But I don't know. I that's yeah, I'm not a sadist on my part. Oh, I don't really know I don't know enough about it. That's the thing if a sadist said it was, I'd be like, oh well No, that I'd even enjoyed yourself. All right. Well that video was pointless Um, also someone said like they don't want people to think the ilia to some crazy pretentious stuff because of uh This video is like no, we we would never frame you that way. I like no I read I read one of them. I think I read the odyssey we had to do It's really good and I wouldn't ever like downplay its cultural significance But the point is that it makes no It's not relevant to the video at all and it's just there to make it seem like he's tired. Look what I know about guys Yeah, exactly It's kind of funny because I'm putting out one of my videos that the time span Between the end of return of the jedi in the beginning of the force awakens You could have the entirety of the ilia in the entirety of the odyssey and still have 10 years to go So that's why they should have had more story between those two trilogies Yes, a lot of something to do I think it's the only reason he brought it up was to be like Hey, this is violent too, but it has a purpose. Also. I know what the ilia is Okay, the ilia is not a war. It's literally a war story. It's all about a war as achilles fighting in the war Uh, it's not it's not like useless baseless Violence in there. It's not just violence for violence sake. It's exploring ideas It's exploring characters and character arcs and gods in conflict. It's not uh, oh Well, all the western media all the western stories even from back then and all based on the horrific violence. That's not actually true We got um, do you remember us talking about an alternate universe movie bob? Like you wouldn't have his goatee Your universe it's been it's been drawn. You see his values are genocide is bad And mountain dude marinated chicken is fucking disgusting You can cook with coke, but I've never heard about mountain dew marinated chicken before him Old cookbook of mountain dew stuff. I think we found it one day for some reason this mudcast I forgot why but yeah, there's like a whole cookbook about Marinating seven mountain dew and where did we find this from? Who made well my dad when he makes um when he one of his His is marinated sauce thingies that he soaks Meat in is it's got some coca-cola in it just a little bit So that wouldn't make sense. Yeah, that's uh, it's good, but marinating a chicken and mountain dew I think the first thing this alternate universe movie bob says is genocide is bad What if he's posted pictures of him trying to find some but one of the first responses I saw the movie bob posting about his marinated chicken and mountain dew is you are what you eat Bob is bob is a chicken marinated in mountain dew Oh, okay. Yeah, here we go. I found this just someone just grab this for a fucking reddit post apparently I just find that funny Marinated three days in mountain dew. I just feel like that's gonna do stuff to the chicken Not a chef won't be able to be specific three days I don't know if you want to marinate something like because mountain dew is probably really acidic So I don't know if you especially mountain dew was like marinated for three days Like three days and like acid sugar just seems like Yeah, maybe it's maybe there's something else in that mixture Also, I feel marinated should be saved But like actually cooking in this scenario. You should just call it drenched. This is drowning. Yeah drowned in mountain dew Why? Oh, horrendous And that does it extra credits once again proving That they are top of the line in terms of analysis Amazing. I think they got some pushback for this video, but nowhere near as much as that fucking nazi video that everyone hated Um, don't know how they do in these days Pre-read some Nazi video Nazi video where they said that uh, they went on twitter and said, oh, I'm glad all these bigots are unfollowing us Oh, that is something they said, yeah That's just a bunch of bigots. That's us. Just a bunch of bigots. All the bigot wouldn't have that video I'm not even sure what they do these days kind of looking weird like Cleopatra Guess they're doing like a story series about it. I think they do like history stuff. Yeah, it's called history Problem is I don't I don't think I could trust them to accurately report the events of history Oh, I I don't even imagine the fucking perspective they run with like considering this video syphilis the killer cure They usually have a video after a A set of videos in extra history where they go over the stuff they missed where they go over the stuff that got wrong So they get a lot of stuff wrong. I don't have it the not I guess Um, all right. Well that pushes us to our final video of the night. Oh wow um It's been a it's been some time since we were able to cover any Tonal cookery videos except for the uh bigger sandwich quickie. Yeah Before that we had a big gap But this one is he is very important because when he was with us for e5 100 I may have let slip that my interest is seeing him cook for sauron Uh, and he totally did There's a question. Oh, what is an L? Think he dressed up for halloween. Um, oh my goodness Beautiful Wow So, yeah, I don't think there's really any context here other than let's just jump in we've got to see tonal cooking again Um, well, actually if um if literature devil's gonna be out for just a moment Let me use that for my break too, and I'll be back in just a second. All righty Um, that looks like we've just got a chat about something now. Amy. That's all right Oh, it's fine with me. Um, what's on your mind? Sadism maybe Well, the other thing on my mind right now is tonal's halloween costume or whatever. Oh, yeah It's an interesting choice. I'm trying to think of all the references Yeah, I really don't know. It's like it looks like a dress kind of it's a dress, right? Yeah, I'm trying to think it's like is it maybe a famous killer woman or is it from some particular Because it's not my first thought weirdly was um Sally from night before christmas Then I was like, I don't think she's covered in blood 20 degrees. So it's probably not here I don't think this is a reference at all You think it's just maybe I'm wrong. It's just an outfit Maybe uh, it's a look chat. Do you know of who it might be moaning myrtle? That doesn't make sense She's not covered in blood right zombie transvestite. Hmm Talk about mandalorian, uh rags and I have not seen any episodes of mandalorian just yet We do plan to uh much like the boys. We're just giving it some time before it comes out Letting it marinate and mountain dew for oh, yeah, have you seen any of it? I have not Wow, I don't have disney plus. It's not a true star was fan, huh? I guess not. No, I only really like Uh, the first two movies and the third one is pretty good Wait, you don't like the prequels the sequels and rogue one and solo. Wow, not really can't say Can't say I do you're probably in good company. I was never I like I like star wars, but I'm never a huge fan Uh, so like when I saw the last jedi I was wow, this is awful But it didn't and it didn't piss me off because I wasn't you know emotionally invested I kind of just rolled my eyes a lot and I watched that movie How did you uh find efeb then if it wasn't stall was I'm surprised black panther actually Because well, I found you because of black panther because I was desperate to find someone who was willing to talk Honestly about how not good that movie was And there weren't very many people doing that because you know of all the the racism implications So I've actually had an uptick in uh comments on that video saying like Fucking maybe chill like the guy died. It's like I didn't Like you made it after I've also had comments say it like he didn't know the guy was gonna die So the video is still fair. It's just like I don't think you need to make that count of it. Okay Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that needs to be said, but yeah, that was the first video of yours Saw like nice Good shit, you know, so I wasn't you know emotionally Invested in the last jedi being good, but you know, I I don't think I've ever rolled my eyes Or had a movie than that movie Like it didn't yeah, I was I actually um Super excited because I really liked black panther in civil war And I was like they could do so awesome with this movie as especially as a roll-up to uh infinity war And I was fucking oh Yeah, I love I love that he didn't die after being docked off that waterfall landing in ice Like that's almost what they try to argue is the reason it's like he's odd ice. He'll be fine. It's like, I don't wait I don't know ice is pretty hard. Like it's a pretty hard surface to fall Or I guess he washed up or what I just it's it's and there's no agency Remember um baku doesn't tell them that he's got him, but he's dying. Yeah. Yeah until like He's like, yeah That's a thing by the way I'm glad we got to revisit just how not good that movie is in this stream earlier. Yeah um Again, I got loads of pushback on on those comments and How I said like a naturally expanding civilization will of course go further than the state of like a couple of tribes If that was how they were in this fucking stone age and people were like, of course a british colonialist would say that I was like, what? Are there a lot of welsh Colonious, oh well everyone figures i'm english anyway, but uh, I just find it amusing that you wouldn't naturally do it Like humans just do this. They're like, oh land. I can make that space for people. I love And myself like why would you not and because people automatically assume that I'm saying what counter should just take over the entire planet It's like, uh, no, that's no I just think that they would have expanded a little bit and when I reference that they Had one tribe uh absolve like or just take over the other four as like leadership They were like, we will lead, you know the five as a total people were like, yeah, they stopped there I was like, what do you mean you stopped there? People want to say in the down to Africa if you remember the uh, the rise of shaka zulu And the zulu empire they expanded quite a bit by conquering other tribes and things It just it's not as the britain evil british colonizers who did that It was pretty much every culture uh during their time But they justified aggression was a white man's invention I just find it amusing like as if you wouldn't expand in general That's my argument not even colonizing other places just expanding your fucking world. Like why wouldn't yeah, what if you need space more resources? What happens when your population? Well, they must have population rules in wakande no more than one child per family or some fucking bullshit Yeah, and I remember, you know, the What what would you say that sort of like The atmosphere when that movie came out that like you were not allowed to criticize Yeah, if you go back to people I want to say it's efap like Fucking three or four. It's one of the really early ones. It opens with me talking about how I did not see it coming The people would say i'm racist for it and rags like you're so naive Well, great I think if you were I think if you were american coming Yeah, because over here you can hate movies about wakanda without being racist. It's this whole thing I'm not in america. You can't I don't even hate it. I just thought it was really shit Yeah, I mean I didn't yeah, I didn't But I was just like oh god and so I was really You know because it had like something like a 90% Tomatoes at the time. So I was like, please tell me there are some people online Who are willing to talk about how not good that movie is Oh, I do when I found out it was 100 until one person said there wasn't enough fights and that's why they give it Uh, like less than 100 or whatever. I forgot about that That is not why the movie sucks, but everyone hated that guy. They were like fuck you for say what you thought Yeah, it's crazy. It's a movie about black people wasn't violent enough Remember when Jeremy was called a clansman for rating it an eight? I don't remember that but that's pretty funny Well, he's totally a clansman unlike tonald of which we shall start this up. There's a question Why doesn't elrond kill a seal door in mount doom when he refuses to destroy the one ring? He knows if you let him go probably the fate of middle earth is doomed And he just lets him walk out. You got to grab that and just toss him in the fire Elrond, hey Elrond you and a silder went in there a moment ago. Where is the silder? Oh, he's fine. He's uh He's still in there. Yeah as much as I think it's totally fair to have this thought I mean like you do understand it would cause a major war between mad and elf like that probably wouldn't be worth while In the moment thinking about it from elrond's perspective All the like the fact that it's set on a quick line But it must have been really difficult for all of the races to come together For this one goal and all that would have been thrown away after the victory here and I do love the visual though elrond walks back out and he's like sarron is defeated. They're like, where's uh Where's the silder? The silder is defeated Elrond's like he's always all the way down there. They look and he starts running. He's like, hey Well, he can't catch him. He's an elf. He's too fast But yeah, you should have grabbed him like a little clown boy. I agree. Yeah, you said I like the visual I thought you're about tonal because boy. Do I like this visual? This is quite the visual. Yes. It's something I wonder if he'll address it I can see they're the only two in mount doom if there's questions just say he fell for as wise as elrond is He's an idiot Nailed it He fell guys Trust me dude Oh, shit, uh the last time I let music play go fucking hit with copyright from his videos Feels bad, man You have to fucking turn it off. You guys don't have to let me know when it stops. All right. Yeah, we could You just chat in between the moments. Yeah Magic consort. Oh my goodness. Look at the rig. Oh my goodness. What would Sauron Order at a restaurant. Oh my little ghouls and goblins. Welcome to episode four of our production value Oh, wow. Yeah, all right. The bats are oh my goodness So special Halloween episode featuring Sauron the evil dark lord from the lord of the rings But guess what? We're not going to cook Sauron dinner Nope, we're not cooking him breakfast second breakfast 11 z's Luncheon afternoon tea. I think this proves that he knows his lord the rings. Okay. That's I like it. I like it I like it. He's supper. Nope. We're cooking him dessert today for the evil dark lord Hey I like that Sauron like really values dessert over any other portion of me. All he was like, oh, yeah Yeah, he is the dark lord, so Well, that's we do We will attempt to create A dark chocolate and black sesame mount doom molten lava cake With raspberry lava ice cream and shards of narsal Caramel brittle to tie it all together. Oh, wow. So actually that's not really good precious Raspberry balsamic ice cream Alrighty, so the first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna make a damn good ice cream So a custard is when you add sweetened hot cream and milk To room temperature egg yolks first harvest five yolks from five eggs Give them a little bit of a stir and then set them aside Next heat up your cream your milk your vanilla sugar Which is just normal sugar infused with an empty vanilla pod and a little bit of salt salt and desserts Helps draw out the flavor of the sweet stuff. We're looking for a mixture that's hot but not boiling And obviously this kind of stuff like I'm just gonna have to take his word for it I don't actually know if this is how you do it or not. I've already learned so much more from this than any videos So get hot but don't boil And look he even has the the the ring language. What is it elvish or elvish? It's gotta be right? Is it black speech? Yeah, I can't remember Is anyone in chat? A language where every word is the n-word G thought Now comes the tricky bit guys You're gonna temper the egg yolks by adding a little bit of this hot cream mixture to the eggs and then stir Now add this mixture back to the pan that's still on the stove and keep stirring until you reach exactly 165 degrees Why do we temper the eggs and stir like mad guys? So we don't get scrambled eggs. Take it off the heat cool it down. I mean if that's yeah You know, I don't want scrambled eggs in my cake Like vinegar ice cream You've never seen that before That's true Flavor We're making this flavor here. Let me go ahead and just say this one thing. Um, did you guys know that nicolas cage was supposed to be aragorn? Talk about dodging a bullet boys. We've been so much Dodging a bullet I would have liked to say that Aragorn Because page aragorn to be perfect. Yeah I feel that we need that alternate take, you know, we need to see the uh the movie He's In case of helmet because he couldn't save a mary and pippin. He's just screams and then falls to his knees I'll be the entire performance. I would I would pay to see it just saying Real fancy you can actually reduce the balsamic vinegar in a pan by half before you add it but that is optional Oh, you know, I don't think he's gonna explain his costume I think that's just gonna go without saying apparently just put the flavor with the custard Stir it up put it in an ice cream machine and let it go until it becomes ice cream. Congratulations. You just made You get to this step put it in an ice cream machine like Wait, you guys don't have the ice cream machine like oh no Everyone has an ice cream machine. You all don't Guys if you make this ice cream, we'll make all of their store-bought ice creams taste like dog poo poo Dog poo Lord of the rings games No, we're in the absolute sandwich. It's the triple A witcher style Lord of the rings adventure from the shire to mount doom epic single-player art Uh, excuse me sir. Lord of the rings third age was a masterpiece. Wouldn't you agree? The sandwich fuck It doesn't exist and that is dumb Okay, so we got the ice cream done. Now we need to work on our black sesame brittle This is a quick step, but it's tricky The nards of charsal Heat sugar and water in a pan for about 20 minutes until you have caramel Patience my love and have faith that this horrible looking mess goop will turn into soft sexy caramel We achieved a beautiful amber brown throw in some black sesame seeds and bring the mixture precisely to 300 degrees Fahrenheit This is known as the hard crack stage and will give us what is known as a brittle which we can break into whatever shape We want hell. Yeah, we just made the shards of narsal from the fellowship of the ring Which is sealed or used to cut the one ring from the hand of sauron In case people didn't know what it was, you know, you gotta know what that was This is why it has particular significance And his slow-mo shots are pretty nice. Don't you guys love edible swords? I do I know what sauron does or he better. I shall make many orcs eat my sword We'll power them up Did you guys know that aragorn was supposed to fight sauron at the end of the return of the king? Comes flying down from the black aid on a huge ash dragon Everyone's like, holy s**t sauron. We're f*****g dead. He comes crashing to the ground It kills like 50 people. He's like f*****g. Yeah. What's up? He looks over at gamely. Boom! Just smashes him with his mace. Aragorn goes, nooo And now f*****g pulls a fireball out To fade out That was funny Step three, let's make a bitter chocolate cookie crumble so we can have some dirt and some rocks below our mount doom cake All right, grab yourself a food processor and begin by pulverizing almonds Which will be the base for the cookie. Next just throw in some sugar, flour, salt and unsweetened cocoa powder Now slowly drizzle in some melted butter. The texture should be crumbly and delicious Is it legal to mix it in like this? Why don't you just use oreos and crumble them up and just save yourself the time? Well, guess what bro? We don't take shortcuts on this show Shut the f**k up Oreo simp Those Oreo elitists out there get f**ked We make everything by scratch because that's the right thing to do bruh Could you imagine how much worse this would be if it was Oreos? Jesus Yeah, I can already taste the cheap Exactly Just the right thing to do bruh I'm still waiting for the music to stop Just make a black sesame paste by blitzing black sesame seeds with honey until you get an ooey gooey puree All right, next we need to get two egg yolks and two eggs into a bowl with some vanilla sugar and get the old Do you think he like put the camera and then and then drop try to bounce the bowl on it and was like oh, yeah Like hopefully I mean cinematography is actually quite impressive. Yeah, I like a lot of it I feel like he's watched a lot of uh cooking programs to know what kind of shots people like Egg beaters out and makes this on high for five minutes No more music I'm actually very curious to see how this will look whip eggs It creates a natural rising agent because the whipping motion Creates little air bubbles in the egg protein that make it rise when heat is applied This allows you to bake a cake without another rising agent like baking powder Next we need to concoct the chocolate component by heating dark chocolate and butter over a bain marie Fancy name for a glass bowl sitting on top of a pot of Add some espresso to this mixture which will really bring out I want I love the idea is like fancy name for a bowl and a fucking thing. Shut up This flavor of the chocolate Oh boy, oh that for sauron I was gonna say you gotta you really gotta pull it out for him Working very quickly fold this mixture into the egg mixture in small batches Remember what I just said about the egg whites This is why people fold ingredients into whipped eggs so that they don't knock out all the air Interesting it's actually really smart See add two tablespoons of flour when this is finished to bring the cake together sauron is getting the cake It's amazing. You really shouldn't have tunnels It's kind of funny like if tunnel's working in more doors like kitchens He'd be he'd be so out of place, but he'd be like well like no fall don't knit Yeah I mean like I kind of like that gourmet mission in skyrim All those will that work the cats do in monster hunter? Like this they take their work very seriously This is our gravel Okay sacred mount doom leaf i'm waiting for him to pour that mixture To really simulate. Oh, I guess that would make sense. Oh That looks pretty good I mean I'd eat it rings is my favorite fantasy trilogy Of all time and watching it again to prepare for this video was an absolute treat Without a shadow of a doubt the fellowship of the ring is my favorite lore of the rings movie by far It's my favorite too. That's my favorite too. Damn What about you guys? I like returning the king just because of you know the conclusion of everything, but yeah It's either that or I like the fellowship of the ring Yeah, nobody like well, I don't see nobody not many people choose two towers Uh Which is funny because I used to say it's bad because it's just it's all middle Mihai she sent me how I would choose it doesn't have the uh, the uh, the second Episode effective at the uh, Empire Shrek's back does they didn't have the same effects Fellowship of the ring is by far my favorite of the outer the lore the lore of the rings trilogy The two tunnels. Yeah. Yeah, the two I choose two towers. We got some two tower chooses in uh In chat and they're welcome to that opinion. Absolutely, but it's fine. They will not be They're all really good. That's the thing Yeah, they're all racist and stuff Honestly, I I often consider them all like the same long movie in a way, you know, they're all made at the same time Yeah, kind of they're all made by the same people Characters the venture the actors and the performers the music Just the way the movie was shot with the miniatures It's just fantasy perfection just a shame what happened to the hobbit. I mean What the f*** were they thinking? What they decided to do with the hobbit what they were doing with the package like it's part cooking video part movie I love it I didn't know what the hell I was doing I Well, yeah, the hobbits the movies didn't do quite as well. A lot of people still like the hobbit movies Yeah, I think there's definitely stuff to like but Look is awesome The live action movies I don't know where they were going with it, but uh, I guess you can like I guess I guess still they they solve A a need for a hobbit movie Uh, but if you want to hobbit a good hobbit movie, I would always choose the the cartoon version That's what I've heard. Yeah apparently cartoon It's stronger though, of course, uh, a lot of people tend to agree Uh, what's his name the one who plays bilbo? He did a pretty good job throughout the hobbit trilogy um Fuck why am I blanking on his name martin freeman? That's the one Uh, Gordon freeman like he's they consider him quite a good casting for bilbo and he's quite endearing throughout Yeah, I can see that and someone in chat said the hobbit got me laid. So You know, you can't ignore these sorts of things character It doesn't have no redeeming value. Got him laid um Yeah, I like two towers the most because of chrysophilia. That is a fair reason that is a fair easy Thanks for watching this one was so fun very challenging But I think what we made today was not only delicious But it really does tie back to the theme of sauron and the lord of the rings have yourself a fun Spooky halloween and I'll catch you guys in our next video. Peace. Love and happiness until then. I'll see you later. I'm not gonna lie Dresses are pretty comfortable Hey, he mentioned it No, your cutlery So you can imagine that that's how sauron felt when consuming man, this is just it's like Literally a whole this is the mirror universe tonal with With this and what we got originally when we've covered him first. Absolutely. Yeah I really like these videos. They're cool. And I I save them specifically for efab now like Oh That was great. I really wish he'd get more I was gonna make is that we didn't see him try it But he kind of did that at the end You know, I would want him to like make that a more prominent part of him like eating it in the end Otherwise, that's pretty great how it felt to to consume Or maybe if he has like a girlfriend or a friend or something like that He can have them try it too, you know get their reaction many girlfriends Did you guys watch the princess zelda one? Wait a minute The one that I missed In which case we will have more to watch in future. Oh, there is one. Yeah, there's one for zelda Well In the future We will check it out I mean, it's it's you know, you don't want to just throw them all out, right? Like you want to keep Oh, yeah, you don't want to waste it. Yeah, you gotta save it and binge them all at once Yeah, five hours and now I suppose We will we will get to to super chats. Um Though of course if uh, if jamie or satan would like to depart Reason they have preference for uh, you you may do so now you are now allowed to go Or allow for your freedom. I can leave. Oh, finally I'm now allowed to leave. Awesome. I'll stick around. I'm just gonna use the quick There you go, I'm gonna head on but thanks for inviting me appreciate it. Absolutely Hey satan, it was nice to meet you. I've heard a lot of bad things about you You know, you turned out to be pretty great And you're a fun guest You know, just uh, you contracts go bad, you know, you get a bad reputation, but you know You don't believe everything you hear about satan everyone Yeah I If if um If anyone is interested I have a youtube channel. I think the link is in the description, I believe And every week morning have a little show and a little show called more your nonsense If you want to check that out Uh, usually you have a lot of fun on there And if anyone else is also interested I have a comic book that is still in demand on indiegogo called dr. Alpha miracle child And I'm going to be releasing a new gift for all the backers who purchase this physical copy. So Uh, thanks for having me on mohler. No Nice. Hope you have fun reading on the super chat. Yeah, we will have fun. Yeah Fun times all around See you around. Good night everyone Good night Sins know the bad that bad of a guy. I'm just saying I know it's a controversial take, but I don't care I will say what others are too afraid to say Um So, yeah, I suppose we will jump right in and medium d speaks could jump back into this call at any point. Who knows? Over back. Yeah. Yeah, you know how peeing is All righty There we go So the first one says first Don't really know what to make of that some kind of weird language Black speech here Uh praise be the proper and then they've got the the table type emoji for um good ol gene That will be raging on further than we could ever imagine And the gaming episode coming up on mohler for that will be a little bit of time because we're still trying to Get a little hope to escape copyright. It's it's down to like 10 days now So we're getting there Uh rags poops with the door open oof hmm That's not true at all. It's kind of fucked up that someone would just say that three speeches. It's limits. All right. Yeah Uh d's orc is here for quality rat Well, I mean the orc must have appreciated the um the the cooking for sorrow quality rat stream Yeah All right, people who are listening just to the sounds this probably already know what game i'm booting up Did you ever play star wars the clone wars on game cube ranks? Played on the og xbox. I think I think it was on that. I think it's the same one, right? Fucking mute music volume. Yeah, that's good Ah, no fucking stupid ass Bounty hunter got me into so much trouble because of its soundtrack He can't just stream games anymore. They're taking our rights away Okay, there we go fucking bullshit And this one's thanks nintendo. Yeah I knew I'd get some thank yous in chat. I knew that would happen people want to see this game played If I end up like saying it's shit by the way, you know, you this is your fault Even though I played this a whole bunch when I was younger Um here acts paddle on jedi night or jedi master difficulty. What do you reckon? I don't know if you're just trying to get through it. You might as well go through on its normal difficulty Yeah, it sounds like a good idea. I don't want to fuck this up, you know Oh, I might even have to take it off screen every once in a while because it's got star wars footage in it possibly What's star wars music to shit? No, no, this is star wars theme fuck Why do I know? Oh, thank god, you can pause emulation The problems that come with all this ridiculous All right, no, there you go muted thank the goodness And this isn't yeah, this isn't movie. This is almost Okay. Oh sweet and you have to listen to while i'm deer hunting Hey Have fun. I don't know many people who listen to you for while deer hunting. That's interesting Go get them deer Yeah, I hope I hope you I hope you show them They shouldn't fuck with you. But remember don't be sadistic about it. We had a whole thing about that today Nice quick clean kill It's an outlet for your rage. That's fine. But if it's an outlet for say, I feel like 99.9 of it is just sitting around Chillin talking to your son about hunting. That's what they do, right? We humans are ambush predators with rifles from distance Hello, all my end woods. I can't watch all day Because of work, but I might be able to jump in at the end again. Love you guys also high wags Oh, hey And yeah, you know, whenever you can whenever you want to go for it Thoughts on mando season two We've not seen haven't started it yet, but we will be very soon the other day, but Um, something happened. So something went wrong being my I will blame my along clock, right? That's I wasn't gonna name names, but you know now I guess is that we got the green light to dog pile on? No Have mercy on my soul Uh, but yeah, we're definitely gonna Check it out soon Might even do some fat minis. Who knows different things from different people, you know Rags you're working on. I made a season one video, right? You bet I am the whole season one a review in depth It's coming along really I'm really proud of it so far. I think it's coming along really nice. Wow vein You can't say nice things about your own work. I am Darth vane. Oh my god The cum lord. Oh Who will But yeah guys you saw what we did to the boy season two you will get the content you want eventually Okay, just hang in there You think we won't have things to say about mando season two after what we did to season one. It's like Oh Did you think that season two would magically become better? I mean it could magically become better I've seen people say it's better than season one, you know Apparently that's a thing I guess we'll see but I don't know I definitely have my concerns I am uh Let's just say I'm scootical Also, let me know if game is too loud or too quiet, you know, these things happen. It's hard to control Um, gotta love this more world building in episode four than the entire sequel trilogy. Oh Is world building in mando now? That's neat. Yeah, I would say there's more world building in the first episode of mando season one Unfortunately, it's not necessarily good Yeah, obviously the sequel trilogy Is Yeah, the sequel trilogy has a world building allergy Which is you know Can it can it can do some real real damage unless of course you don't give a shit about world building Which apparently means that's you know at that point, it's fine Not confusing or anything. That's so many bad guys Very many muscles do have Uh rags in canine soccer slash hockey. Do they have a bitch league or is that still not pc? Also, hi rags Hi, uh, yeah, we definitely segregate There's uh, we want to keep things fair balanced. You know how they can be, you know Hey, this just Fucking crazy people, you know, it's been like not We'll not accept that label. Also. Wait, which way are we going? This way, what about if there's something secret over there are some supplies nearby We can use them to recharge. Yo mama's an e-fap uh Fair enough. I one bow on wheels. Hello. Please kick jay done. Sincerely a very hungry bandicoot Hmm Whoa ps high rags or wags. Oh, hi Repsa 111 you should have me on because I have three eyes in my name I don't know if that's how we do it But uh Shall be kept in mind the uh Oh, there's three eyes in capital o opinions. Got them But it's the three eyes in jamie. No You got me there. There's like only two Because then a is technically an eye if you like change it completely All right that logic by that logic there are million eyes in jamie It's a really good piece of logic to use. I would I would recommend it if ever you want to just say anything All right, I'll keep that in my back pocket for later A lot of people think it's bullshit. I think otherwise Also, I'm playing as mace windu and my partner is luminaria. Do you know these characters rags? Luminaria He's one of the jedi shows what you know about star wars. Well, I hope all right at the end of things Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure she's one of the many survivors of order 66 much like mace windu Except for the whole falling out of a building thing Everyone gets hung up on that and it's like oh as if mace windu couldn't have survived Yeah He obviously force saved himself force parachute It's one of the powers you have to learn is force save yourself. It's very useful. I'm pretty sure very multi-purpose He said he was on board with that by the way like coming back and you'd think disney would have used the shit out of that Yeah, I mean they clearly have no fucking. I mean they brought back dark mall Palpatine. Why not bring back mace windu? Old grizzled mace windu who'd fucking just can't be asked anymore. Yeah Like these stupid And then you like bitch slaps ray. He's like, you don't even know what the fuck you're doing Favorite scene already. He just calls her motherfucker over and over again And she's like, how could I even have fucked my mother? I didn't even know my mother like your mother was my daughter This is I mean, fuck it. Let's throw some reveals in mace windu was palpatine the whole time, you know Why not or maybe maybe it was the was it the son or the um daughter of palpatine that was the Son of a oh, I don't remember. It's it's in a lore book somewhere Anyone have the lore book I don't think in the movie they specify that what you think would be like a Yeah, you'd think that that would be major like oh shit, which one Because if it was a girl that's lame, but if it was a guy, oh cool That's how it works, right? Also, my super blasters run out just before I get to this area with lots of evils They're super blasters. Holy shit. Yeah, you jealous you're super Jastas that was a weird Oh, no, my shields are running out Uh-oh, this is just not coming up millhouse um Boy molly, I recently got my wisdom teeth removed a few days ago and while under nitrous oxide I got to critique the surgeons made up stories fun you What? so like They were talking and you were criticizing them or Or you what does does nitrous oxide knock you out? I thought it just calms you down It might knock you out. Was he just babbling and they will they told him what he said after it like oh, by the way You were like shitting on us for our stories Dentists do not appreciate that okay Yeah, hope you had fun. Hey mubishly. How are you? I am good though. I spend most of my days just doing the worky tisms And chillin with friend of loonies watching different things ready for E fat movies and and and spend in some nice time with different Family and friends, you know, everything's pretty normal right now despite all of the lockdown tisms What's the next video you're working on for the boys season two kind of planning on turning it to shreds still in script form for that lots of Like structural issues with the script in terms of how to Deliver the criticism but uh getting there. Yeah. Yeah Um anyways thoughts on shit eating grin poor and the take that spider-man 2 is not Is not good as well as quality isn't objective Um, it's gonna be a semantics thing probably with southpaw. I don't look at I really don't care whether or not someone agrees with that part I care if they think that um consistency is important in something and then not in something else. That's frustrating to fail Uh, so if you're gonna judge for example tlj For all of the flaws that people typically judge it by and at the same time be like it doesn't matter If these are present in things that I love then Is gonna be an issue whether or not you agree about um being objective about stories and How they're constructed means you have to care about uh continuity and cause and effect That's always down to uh individuals. However about spider-man 2 I've seen a lot of his arguments and they do seem pretty strong Uh, yeah Can't say that Like I'm in the position that he's absolutely wrong or anything. I fucking Agree with a lot of the stuff he sent me And it's just stuff that I hadn't really thought about that much Uh, for example, one of my favorite ones that I don't know if we ever brought up before rags, but do you remember Structpus is told by harry to go and tell peter to get spider-man Because that's the only way that he has access to him. They know that peter takes photos of him So they'll like are he's friends with spider-man. We'll get him to uh Uh, I guess spider-man to walk dark arc because he wants to capture him for harry I know that although it's hard to follow. I just said the point is Dark arc wants to get to peter to tell him to get him spider-man and the scene opens Of that happening with with peter talking to mj And fucking dark arc throws a car at peter And like they narrowly avoid it because of his spider sense and uh Then dark arc grabs him by like the throat and he's like Spider-man tell him to meet me at blah blah blah blah blah And then he throws him into a fucking wall And it like breaks apart and then a whole bunch of shit from the ceiling crushes peter It's like you watch it and you're like did dark intend for him to survive this It just seems like he's trying to kill him over and over again uh And you sort of you watch it and you're like wow Doc's either an idiot or uh, he didn't care whether peter lived. I don't know So um, that's like one and there's just a lot of things in those in those movies that I hadn't thought through I guess Also, this part is extremely clunky. Holy shit Okay Doc is brilliant, but lazy. Yeah, that's what I mean. There's a couple things that were brought to my attention. I'm like, huh That isn't quite as solid as I remember it being And that happens everyone. It's totally cool. You could have a movie where you watch it and you're like, that's amazing Even for like a decade or specifically 12 years Especially if you came out that long ago and you were younger Yeah So it goes. Oh, no, I've killed myself, baby Anyone that happens Yeah, the health 25 health boo I'll be back in a second A likely story I know Get rikita meteor on he said he'd love to come on. It's in the pipeline There's a couple actually who are in the pipeline and of course we had two new guys today So uh, don't worry new people on the rise All the time And uh rikita lawyer I've been if he's on board and we're on board. We'll probably find something Uh, again, I'm trying to throw a lightsaber from behind cover and it is not working No, okay, what is going on back there? See all those All the bug people they're sort of just chilling I don't want to go out there. I've got low power. Can I use force? Oh, I can okay Um Behind but I'm glad you didn't miss doing something in Lord of the Rings z4 Oh Lord of the Rings related for one one one from the title. Also jay was there. He's probably gone now though. Hi rags Wait, what am I missing? Why is one one one connected to Lord of the Rings? I can't think of it Chat why is one one one related to Lord of the Rings? Allison help us out The one ring I mean, that's not very uh specific um Bilbo's 111th birthday There you go. Yep. That was all intentional. Thank you Okay, okay Oh my goodness using force push just kills all of them. That's great Bonus objective complete. What was my bonus objective destroy at least 100 enemies. Oh, okay I'm so good at this game. I got the bonus objective without even realizing it. Are you jealous? Destroy it Dude the way that mace window backs away looks so funny. He's just like Oh, the controls are so fucking awkward. Can I jump how old is this game 2000 I want to say 2002. Oh my god. I can strafe as a person. Oh, this looks so strange They hadn't quite figured out controls yet guys shut up Oh, there's a lot of five unit. Okay. Oh gosh, these bugs gonna fuck me up Throw the thing. Oh I wish I could regen health alas. No luck Uh Dunkey is a genetically failed clone of Diabeto I think you'd want to be a failed clone of Diabeto, right? Yeah, you don't want to be an unsuccessful clone Diabeto No maze window. Oh, I died. I'm so sorry mission failed Wow, but it's gene Not entirely sure I think that's just more opinions on whether or not gene is a table because the next one says definitely a table Yeah, why was the uh, apparently the japanese character that the uh, seven looking symbol represents Ah Supposedly It's funny that the paramount decrees have been struck down right when disney isn't financially able to take advantage of it Is that true I'm guessing they relate to paramount studios in relation to like ip's that disney could probably swallow up I don't know Yeah, I don't know the specifics, but um disney is in some trouble right now right in terms of just figuring out the paramount decrees Was a landmark united supreme court antitrust case that decided the fate of film suit owning their own theaters and exclusivity rights on which theaters would show their movies Interesting keep your distance from well. Yeah, uh, not the greatest time to be able to take advantage of that for disney, I suppose So the paramount decrees Were designed to order Studios to get rid of their ownership of theaters so that the studios weren't allowed to own their theater So apparently those have been lifted. So we're expecting disney theaters anytime now I I guess I don't know enough about it So cool. I have force blow up as a move Fuck you I bet ray would learn that in an instant. Yeah one more movie Uh chat stop being stupid. It's obvious that table is the proper gene and any other belief is a lie And you'll be marked as a follower of hereticus. Oh my god Follower of hereticus like I wouldn't that's not something I would want, you know Fucking these guys are here Run mace Guys, you didn't say this game was so hard Oh, shit, there's like it hits you if you blow him up. I should have thought of that Um Miles Morales is technically its own game, but it has about as much content as the dlc for the original you Check out white light's most recent video. He makes reference to mohler jokingly, of course around the 10 minute mark He's also an excellent creator Uh, well, hopefully there's no Like super animosity there and he might be able to pop on efep sometime Talk about video games. Who knows Uh, yeah, I can appreciate a long joke of any kind Fucking stuck on the tutorial mission for being a human in this game I suppose we can all say that about life, right? We're stuck in the tutorial mission for being human I'm sure it means something I feel like that's what school is I don't know. This is this is the tutorial. It's just the first mission I often associate whatever the first mission is with the tutorial. It's just fuck me. Is it clunky? I mean, look at how awkwardly I move You are the bestest of boys mohler's okay, I guess I keep around, you know, I am okay with being okay He serves his purpose The running animation You Dude the way he throws the lightsaber too just like very serious about it, you know I've lost so much health this time much worse than last time. There's no way I'm doing it Maybe we should stop using the force to blow shit up Yeah, because lightsabers do it well enough. All right Block it mace Okay, that was a bad idea. I got too close Um Still working through the backlog of efab just hit 50 part two keep it up Man, that was a long time ago Oh fucking I'm so dead. Can I just walk past all these enemies? Because I can't if I keep taking damage Run mace run Is actually working don't come and kill me evil spooders They're really creepy they go on walls Yeah, it was so portrait. Yeah. Well, I mean picture frames those go on walls. Those aren't scary I didn't well, I guess it's the the point of them being a particular thing that go on walls Rather than a painting because like I think paintings on the floor are creepier than when they're on the walls, you know Tripping hazard. Yeah. Yeah, and if you're living alone and there's like no wind or anything You're like, oh my goodness. Did someone do this? Like a spooky ghost that wants your teeth That's relevant The tooth fairy you mean No, a spooky ghost that wants the teeth is very different from that Oh, how do we know that the tooth fairy's not a ghost? Because she's a real person you can meet her in real life. She's a little tooth fairy hq You didn't know this I see it That is the north pole. She's the south pole next next thing you're gonna tell me santa is Of course, that is a ghost. How do you think he does all the shit he does? Fucking santa is a legend though. Like he does so much more than the tooth fairy does He likes to appear in the background while you're sleeping Which is normal stop implying it's not Haha Rag google triumph of the will and read the cast names. I recommend it for e-fap movies lol Triumph of the will and then recommend. Yeah, read the cast names Uh, let's say, uh, nazi propaganda film pretty famous one. Let's see. All right. Are they funny names right here? I'll let you start. Okay Adolf hitler. Oh Yeah, joseph gerbils. Yay Rudolph hess. Yay orman gurring. Yay Richard walter dara. Yay hans frank Maybe uh, hindry kimmler. Yay. Oh, definitely. Oh, yes, the autodetric. Yeah, some of these are Yeah, any what's up? I killed all the big machines and now I win Hanzola What was that? What was his name in winter soldier something zola, right? Hanz, right? Here's a hanzola. Friedrich zola. Hello, Friedrich zola. Oh, hello. Hold on. Hello, big d. Oh, jeez He's meeting me. Oh shit. He does not have the right scotch. Hi. Hi. What are you guys doing? Uh, we are in super chats now while also playing the clone wars on gamecube We're in super chutes. Nice Chewed him I think I just need to destroy these two and I win Oh, did I do it? Oh, they all look oh, dude, the enemies just look sad when I destroyed all of them. They just stated it like, oh, no Someone said I think it was supposed to be a non-force sensitive palpatine clone that was rey's father I have so many questions That raises more questions than it answers How did they do that? Was that like a little setting on the cloning machine? I think you can make them More sensitive yes or no. Yeah Oh, did I finish the mission? That was it. Okay. I am victorious Um rags all these are mini compared to rags. Hell, yeah Miles Morales is great demon souls remake is game of the year though. It's unbelievably good Probably my second favorite souls born game first being bloodborne. Whoa Keep it loose. Split the line of fire. Well, I look forward to checking it out someday when ps5s aren't as rare as I don't know. What's rare? Uh 30 vibranium vibra rare as vibranium. There you go Uh Here thou set our I'm fine with Joel in the last of us m2 expect the death scene All right. I Sorry, I had to like set up my headphone again Dude, you guys get like crazy super chats. That's awesome. Good. Yeah, some of these questions are really thought provoking No, bro. I'm talking about the amount of money. I rags is there a lot of audience engagement. It's really great I thought you were talking about the amount of red of Individual dollars like the amount of support. Oh, yeah, I'll be dope. Yeah, that helps too all the all the fucking piles of dosh that just Dream on in yeah, they're they're all right. They're all right. They're all right. No, I fuck with them Okay, so there's a guy in chat Uh That keeps like anytime I say something like throughout the entirety of the day has been like I have a medium d2 It talks to ghosts And like, okay, we get it like medium is also a term for a person talks to good. It's not fucking funny Stop repeating it. Wow. What do you think is funny? I know maybe no, he's talking about the new hilarious black comedy medea Medea talks to ghosts No, it's straight up medium If you had so is an idea Laurel No, medea is While medea's personality and power is such that you can often confuse there would be a plurality Yeah, yeah, but she's really just one entity Also known to say mega entity After after her last summer blockbuster medea commits a hate crimes She really had to come back to something strong and I think that medea talks to ghosts is an excellent way to Get that going reconnect with your audience. Yeah The haunting of medea house medea visits The 9 11 memorial Medea reads statistics about uh, a certain type of Crime medea's amazing oschwitz adventure Yeah, I think we could workshop that title a bit, but I think there's something that medium d6 inches I mean like that sort of gives away the magic to give it an exact measurement, you know Yeah, medium in reference to what what's the what's the relativity here? Think well exactly like it's use your imagination. It's that's the magic Uh, we're we're just rags come from that's what I want to know Can you ride on people me? Yeah, no, that's not what I'm known for no They're like rags to riches like I came up with nothing like capitalism the american dream No, I was born into a decently well-off middle-class family That's pretty lit Yeah, it was pretty nice I mean, but like you can you can definitely come from like middle class Which is is certainly shrinking to Upper middle class and that's still like a pretty big deal Yeah, but that's not rags No, what is it? I would say it is because We're becoming middle class essentially the highest class right now is if you've made it to efab you are ascended Oh, I'm doing an escort mission. Those are always really fun Um So I was to read this one again. I will I will just read it out and see See if I can make sense of it here thou set Our I'm fine with Joel in the last of us m2 Expect the death scene I think that means Is how I'm fine with Joel in the last of us to accept the death scene Is that is that translation is half the fun as they say Yeah, um, it makes sense to me how Joel is simping for ellie because in real life They are so there are so many fathers who behave like that My problem is with ellie in the last of us one She understood that Joel didn't want to go with her because his trauma and she sympathized with him and told him I'm not sara, but in the last of us two She's acting like she doesn't know why Joel saved her and she doesn't care for his previous trauma and this game He's very different. At least Joel makes sense. I would still argue it doesn't make sense that Joel didn't work as hard to explain himself So, um, I I would just I I sort of do agree with you But just to play devil's advocate this isn't like this is an original idea of mine, but I wouldn't say I hold this Do you not steal? Uh, what? No, I'm brown. I steal Um, can you build doors? No, don't you know that? I didn't say that on stream. I don't even tell. Oh, yeah, I don't remember whether that was loud or no Um, what if ellie is, uh, repressing The trauma of the like stuff that happened then in the in the first game Just playing devil's advocate like what if Sorry, what if what? What if ellie is like repressing? Uh, the memories from last of us one to cope with the loss of joe And you need to show that develop these feelings as a defense mechanism Like you'd need references for that like you it would have to be in the game, right? I can't just Like we don't usually argue that a character is acting inconsistent because they have a mental Uh, let's say position that Would would wouldn't it would make that happen. For example, I wouldn't say that uh Luke in tlj makes sense because he has dementia But we need reference to that instead of it Okay seems as though she She's more than uh Aware of everything that happened in the previous game. I guess not so much. She's repressing or anything Yeah, no. Yeah, like I said, I wouldn't I wouldn't say I hold that I I wouldn't like defend that person I just like to play devil's advocate. What if someone said that? Well, that's what I would say Cool Margot Robbie on her pirates reboot lots of girl power We're really really excited that the prospect of adding obviously a very key female element to that world The writer is from birds of prey Oh, yeah pirates loved women Oh, yeah That's so weird last night. I like marathoned all the pirates of the caribbean uh video essays. I could find Why? I I just I found one from this tiny ass channel with like 400 subscribers It was really really good and I was just like damn pirates the caribbean's good And I just watched a ton of video essays This one's really good. Yeah He was uh about the second and third one dude this CGI holds up so fucking well Yeah, they worked hard on them the fish people Well, yeah, I guess it depends on what CGI talking about The Kraken looks pretty neat too The Kraken that Kraken Yeah, I really like the Kraken's final battle and when he took it out He was really cool how he's just a corpse Oh my god, it's laser droids Uh, but yeah, I'm really excited for the Female parts the caribbean reboot. That's like wow wait, so that's what that is. Yeah, that's happening I'm not entirely sure why I think that's the way to go. But hey, hold on girls get it done. Yeah girls do get it So she's not just playing like uh, Elizabeth swan No, no, we're getting parts the caribbean again, but this time women Because if you're telling a story that should be your priority, you know whether or not it's men or women Oh, yeah, and and also minorities whether or not it's it's race or other race Well, yeah, that's gonna be a problem. If there's mainly just white women. I am going to be complaining So like female jack sparrow female will turn her um I don't know if they're gonna be doing that rather than just old new characters. They're all just focused on women Half the crew isn't trans then I'm gonna boy. God. It's gonna be so funny if they did that Male and obviously like yeah, Jane's barrel or something. People be like, that's pronoun is their ship But like to go against gender norms and patriarchy the ship is referred to as as they go out on the high seas and get raped Oh my god, that's you know, it depends on what age they're going for It depends how accurately want to beat a real pirate. Hey, you want a pirate movie about women? You think pirates like really raped that much Or like no probably because they didn't have the opportunity often Yeah, they're into men like on ships. Yeah, they probably hate your process Oh, yeah, like when yeah Really like the fucking nasty ass whores. I think men Well, I mean it's because what pirates really did was just like, you know attack other ships out at sea There weren't like a no they didn't they were fun people who drank and would sing songs They're like, yes, it's our lucky day Um, well, so like why I would argue that I I have no idea. I have no way to back this up, but I would Well, I think I have a point for it, but I don't have a store go ahead. All right, but go ahead. Whatever That's a weird thing all all female pirates Yeah, I agree Yeah, and it's gonna be a weird thing and lots to see how it does Oh, I blew that up sweet No, um, oh it spawns infinite enemies if I don't too. So that's just lots of pluses Uh kick rags and hijay. What is this? Just playing yourself the mirror unitary culprits. Yeah Horrifying in its own way. Oh did we win? Oh, I don't worry the election shakes out the only way to oh, whoever the election shakes out The only way to restore confidence is for all of the affected states to immediately overhaul their electoral systems Don't know what made them say that We didn't talk about that at all every frame of politics. Oh, yeah Um Do you see that zack snider e-fapt his own snider cut trailer? He may be a fan of your show Really? Oh wow zack snider. You're welcome to come on to every frame of pause so we can talk about Just whatever we'll talk about the snider cut and what we think about it Unfiltered it'll be great Yeah, the fact that we both said it would be great at the same time is pretty much 100 assurance by the way When have we ever been wrong about anything and when have we ever been mean to anyone about anything in a non-constructive way? I'd say that that's all we do so Come on in character for us. Yeah Whoa Just super positive and constructive and that's why everyone who has anything to say about you. It's really positive positive Dude, look at this intense battle. This is the clone wars. Whoa Let them go They're like they almost seem like ants, you know It's intense this battle is Oh, so little clones. They seem like ants This is so warped on ants Needs to be at least Three times this Those clones are really just oh, I gotta play this. Okay If if h bomber guy would come on would you have him? Sure? Yeah, right? Let's talk about uh, how gs2 is actually terrible Oh Really? Oh wait dark. So I'm sorry. Uh, what about um Shit, uh the one with the plague in russia. I'm forgetting the name Pathologic oh, you talking about dark sector No pathologic I haven't played pathologic 2 so Whoa, I was not prepared to fucking fly around in this thing, but it's neat that I am God, this is fucking crazy So this is like an emulator. Yeah Yes And it runs pretty well Oh, I'm dying Oh, I have lasers too. Jesus I feel so OP in a good way. Okay. I'll just talk holding down my attack buttons, and I'll probably win Um Baller flies now A pair of scissors is the irregular usage singular of scissors hand me scissors is equal to hand me a pair of scissors same with pants Yes Colloquial use you could say for an irregular podcast it makes sense Oh, we failed because one ship got away you really wow chill game someone will handle it in space Okay captain perfecto over here I gotta do everything in this team Since you already did the vaporeon copypasta. I can request this without feeling weird look up and read off the asoka copypasta You can request it doesn't mean we have to read it Yeah It's probably good one was weird enough. It really was I'm gonna google that Are you guys like into pokemon at all? I mean I like that into it I know a decent chunk of it, but don't really care about it not enough to want to fuck any of them. No That's about I'd fuck some of them. Some of them are fucking hot. What like garden war? Garden for I don't I'm not into whore What about bore? So there's a there's a pokemon that's like a big uh Snail dragon like without a shell how incredibly unappealing You would say you would think so right? But there's this giant fucking weird sex uh thing around it and I don't get why All rags now that you know there's a weird sex thing around it are you too late? I mean I'm interested Curious, you know out of curiosity like its animation is literally like the mucus dripping off of like its arms and face But like oh, yeah, yeah, I look it up and it's like sex Oh, I just want like the regular art. I don't understand Well, you know people can be with Yeah, no, absolutely that explains basically all the stuff we have to come across these people want to express their sadism through pokemon Oh Why did I click on that? I mean it's it's a pokemon. So like it in and of itself is not like that bad At all Oh jay wants to come back now jay heard you talking about fucking pokemon now To re-join. I am currently he's the pokey file. I'm currently fucking up the cis So if anyone wants to tell him this trilogy he can That should be one of our guests. We're gonna step them up in terms of their responsibility. I think they should hold their weight Nope that didn't work. Oh, yeah, there we go. So that's gudra. Is that the one that ever wants to fuck gudra? Yeah, people want to fuck this and I don't fucking mucus coming up It's it's not even like you can't even mistake it for cum because it's like green No, yeah, it's a snail dragon. It's weird. It's not even yeah It's not even like that translucent pussy juice or anything like that. It's all just green Right so wanting to fuck pokemon is going to be a minority opinion within like the Massive following the pokemon has but within that minority of people Wanting to fuck gudra is not like a small minority of that minority of pokemon fans. It's a humongous percentage of them Very strange Yeah Super champion rags that he wanted to fuck some pokemon No, I specifically said I would I would probably fuck some pokemon And I specifically mentioned arcanine I was very specific. Oh really? Yeah Well, are you are you like unironically like uh, are you talking about what am I on a ride? I've not I would know not me Okay, that stuff's gross. I would never do that. How you doing Jay? What happened while you were gone? So basically I have set myself like goals of editing. I want to get done every day And uh before I came when he peppered and finished it so I just finished it and came back Good for you. Yeah fucking well done. So you want to cook that trip with those annoying people quota? Yeah, you make that content Create that content Jay so basically When I have like a project this bay to get out at a certain deadline I have to Because normally like the thing motivating me to keep working is that I get to post like Relatively soon work within a matter of a couple of weeks. This is a matter of months. So I just have to make sure that I am scheduling my work because I don't have that release date in sight yet Were you successful jade you achieve? Yes Do I think sometimes yeah, I've been meaning to do it more. Um, do you think that the video could Like the things you want to say could be said faster Then in four hours like I understand that your vision is like in four hours But that's just the length I see it being yeah, I'm gonna try and see it I'm gonna try I'm not gonna try and like optimize it for speed or anything But I think that is um, I'm not like artificially extending it for anything. I think that's the uh And that's just an estimate for how long it's gonna end up being based on how long it is already With and the percentage of what I've actually got to say That I've got said so far. So it's currently uh 40 minutes drafted Some of that edited properly and it's 40 minutes That's yeah 40 minutes 40 minutes um And I estimate based on that it's going to be like three to four hours Wait And that's uh, it's a long minute. Do you want to release it Christmas day? Is it? Oh Um, I'm gonna release it on the same day Is the plan as the next talk to you special which they haven't done the release They haven't published the release date for yet um It's a festive special so it's going to be at some point in december or uh, and it's likely um It's likely either going to be on christmas or new year's day. We technically isn't in december, but it's it's close enough If you didn't like shippinal dr You be on the lookout for like the most comprehensive video on the topic Wow So you just I don't know anything about it, but I will probably watch it Is it approachable if I've never watched the doctor who show can I watch this video and know what's happening? Yeah, I'm doing my best to make it approachable. It plus the part I'm reviewing basically acts as a soft reboot for the show Anyway, so it's all about these new new characters. They were introducing which you know, you don't need to know like uh 60 years of law to pick up and when I talk about like contradictions to stuff that's come before I will introduce and establish like what has come before I won't just say like Well, that contradicts the flavin orbs And then jay leave it hanging. Well, don't not talk about the flavin orbs. Cause I like my favorite Wait, shouldn't it be doctor whom? Well, you know, really they should be a question mark in the title Cause it is a question pretty spooky I haven't seen his license cultural appropriation and it should be a chinese person Doctor whom stood doctor wu dr. Wang dr. What? Wags that course budget courseman made that joke Dr. Wang No, they had a character in a cold doctor who Oh, what's the joke? Um, it's like it's aq. He's asian. Yeah. Yeah, that's the joke Doctor who h u? Oh, okay Okay No, I they make some jokes with I still don't know what the joke is they uh, I don't remember what they do specifically But it is more than just uh Than just having a character with that name Oh, I I remember what it is. I remember what it is. He is uh, sarah lin's drug dealer and so there's a lot of like references to him taking her on like Magical space voyages, but it's all through prescribing her uh way too many drugs There's no fucking subtitle option terrible game Jay I like you cover a lot of topics that I have never fucking watched And I feel fully informed and like I don't need to watch the thing Like through watching your videos on them Oh, thank you. Which one do you think? Um, that makes one that I don't remember And the third star wars movie Oh, yeah, another life No, I think in a return of the jay, nine episode nine Oh, so the ninth The third or the third of the latest The third of the third The third of the third I'm doing stuff. Oh, I got another protection emission Or you don't like admitting admitting protection I don't like protecting people. I like destroying them because I'm a sadist I thought you said uh A protection in mission. You mean like protectione mission Like a mission that is protectione. I got it. It's just not funny. I can't do anything with it. Jay. I'm sorry No, that I was gentle. I was a genuine Thing that happened in my brain You also said E Yeah, that's a good thing E fat Has anyone ever made that joke? I like that joke With the E meme? Yeah, with the E meme Is that the Thaqua Machiplier thing? Yeah Yeah, what does that mean? How does it work? Well, you've got uh, the whole Thaqua in the Machiplier and it goes E Why is it at least like millennial memes? Uh Aren't you a millennial? Yeah, you're a millennial Yeah, my team's memes are bad I don't even want to mention Zuma memes What generation of memes are you looking for? Millennials are like the oldest people who make memes That is incorrect. I, Gen X makes terrible memes There you go. And terrible isn't as bad as abysmal and bad isn't as bad as Zuma memes But boomers make memes Yeah, that's true There's like a sweet spot of meme making You want to try and get to You don't want to go boomer but you also don't want to go Zuma No, I like Zuma memes Well, that makes sense You're tasting memes I think that unironically like kids Think that anything older than a millennial has to be a boomer And don't understand that Gen X is a thing I think that kids Um Yeah that Gen X is a thing and understand It's there and just call everyone older than the boomer It's like a joke Well, what if they think it's pronounced Gen Like it's spelled Gen EX And they used to exist What Like Big brain takes there It's Gen X like Latin X They're trying to be inclusive I think they hate that don't they I hate that You are they? Hello there I'm gonna talk around with my language for your bullshit Yeah, Cuban And Moroccan I actually have I think on Monday I have someone coming I just started streaming And I have a friend coming What? I'm in personally I'm starting my own stream Oh wow, so your stream is so much better That Oz doesn't even count as a stream Take root Okay would you find this guy What the fuck Um well like I found this guy um I moved into a place and he was there already Yeah That's true We went on We went to London And We were on an FB And I knew We were there with CJ But I didn't know anyone else there I know CJ He's the dog We saw Sonic the Hedgehog together I was gonna say he is, I guess Rags is the dog CJ is a dog And then outside of Sonic the Hedgehog We saw that other guy What's his name? Jacksepticeye I don't know why I'm forgetting names Is it bad that his eye is septic? Like I feel like there's something you should have sort of Yeah Um but But I was gonna say is Monday I have My friend who's Colombian And like is very outspoken about this He's coming on my stream And I'm like hey come on So we can just talk shit about how stupid The term Latin X is So that'll be a thing Whenever I see it written I feel like it should be pronounced Latinx Exactly People aren't even pronouncing it right Did you see Jeb crowing about Florida Fixing our electoral system after 2000 election? Greetings from Florida man I don't listen to Jeb I just I just nod my head and clap Jeb is fucking fantastic Alright If he had said something worse We would all be on his every word But he didn't say that Okay so this Four AATs were just kind of Doing some sex stuff for a second there They broke it up as soon as I arrived But I'm just saying You know that whole thing that Jared Genesis brought up Where don't you imagine when you're not looking Your toys have sex with each other and stuff It's like yeah Yeah he said he had a theory that His um his Teenage Mutant Ninja Tales Might fuck each other but nothing gay Yeah he was very quick To point out nothing gay You wouldn't want it to be gay Right in the Michelangelo hole That he ate my drift here You should feel shame Dogs like to date I bet your toys do you gay stuff rags Mine do I literally have toys for the specific purpose of gay stuff There you go Well can it be gay with a toy Technically no Separate things With a partner then yeah A male partner But like we're talking about just with a toy If it's just me you know it's just masturbation But if you're like If you're thinking about gay stuff well you do it Yeah I mean I'm so fucking stupid It's externally neutral but god knows the truth I'm so fucking stupid that I thought I forgot about like sex toys And dildos and I thought we were talking about like Action figures and like They're sort of action figures They're sort of action figures What is wrong with my brain right now I'm fine Doc Acolytes what are you guys doing I see I'm browsing memes to see if I can find a good zoomer meme No wonder it's taking so long What do you say is a zoomer meme I'm looking through my saved reddit posts Not all of these in memes Do you guys know about drag Yeah We make good videos We have drag tomorrow on Well yeah Well the videos I'm gonna come out tomorrow We're gonna stream it Oh yeah that's true You're gonna stream ah That's fucking next level dude Careful Also I thought the whole point was that they get edited You're ruining it They do but we're gonna stream it on switch And then he edits it on youtube I might stream it on youtube If I stream it on youtube Who to The other thing is like If it's streamed on my channel like a lot of the core audience Isn't gonna see it until they find out That we're doing that and I don't want to do it For like every episode Yeah yeah yeah Dogs like to dig rags D is big The US election was undeniably rigged Why Objective standards What Can you say something in rhyme That has to be true That's what I've always stuck to yeah Objective standards don't exist Cope I mean I feel like yeah He got us good I mean at least gotta be a category between A standard of Based in some kind of like Category this is one of I like it or I don't Objectively a square has four Equal sides That sounds like a standard ranks They don't understand How that is that's not subjective Well yeah Saying the words objective standards That doesn't even like really make sense It's more like something objectively Or meet a standard or not I mean a standard has to be objective Because if it's an objective standard It's not a standard Well if someone said my standard For whether or not a thing is good Is whether or not I like it Is it still objective Yeah it's a It still has criteria Okay so Whether or not something meets a standard Is objective and then The point to which You can call something objectively If it feels to meet that standard Is entirely a matter of communication Well when we're talking about like Opinions there's not gonna be A lot of objectivity Mass? Yeah If you're talking about like microphones You might say that The one that makes You've got like a really shitty microphone That makes like really tinny sound It doesn't pick up any bottom end And it makes a lot of distortion right And you've got one real crisp Real top of the line microphone You might say that one of them is objectively better than the other And to most people You would communicate the ideas that you're trying to Very effectively Yeah Let's see Let's see you're an artist And you're looking to make a A different effect with your microphone You're not looking for crisp audio You're looking for Let's say you're making a film And you want a microphone to record your walkie-talkie audio Or something right Then the same standards don't apply to you And you've got a different Set of microphones that you're looking for Now if everyone is looking for microphones It isn't reasonable to Call the standard objective Because That's more of a trend than the standard itself Yeah, it's reasonable For the objective depending on who you're talking to But The standard itself Isn't universally understood So you may need to clarify further When you say this is objectively X You may need to clarify what the standard You're using is I thought you always need to do that just in case Yeah, you always should clarify your standards But When you're saying that something is objectively bad That's always short-hand for it to be able to be a standard Yeah, I think that's fine It's just I'm always curious what the person is referring to Exactly If the standard isn't widely understood You need to communicate that standard as well One bollaging But I think Rags was talking about standards Outside of just opinions And you, Jay We're talking about standards within opinions Well, yeah, I mean if someone said What standard are you talking about for the square And Rags says the four sides thing and then they go Oh, well I disagree that that's the standard for square Rags and be like I don't care that you disagree Yeah, I think it's something Whether they care about it or not doesn't mean anything Yeah, the idea that you can have An opinion about facts is just Non-sense Also we'd be talking about two completely different concepts At that point If your definition of a square is not A shape that has four equal sides on it Then You and I are talking about A totally different concept And what we call it doesn't even matter at that point Yeah Like people There needs to be agreement on definitions For conversation to be have And people are like Your definition is different so I'm going to argue Based on my own You can define it whenever you get a discrepancy You can still have the communication effectively Well, okay, so This is obviously like a contentious example I don't want to get too much into it The example of racism If one person thinks it's Discrimination based on race And that's it And then there's other people that might be arguing Like oh no it's like systemic and has to Power whatever the other I don't know what the full argument is Then you're having an argument about the definition Of still talk As if each of their definitions is correct And will not Accept the definition of the other person And I feel like that happens a lot more lately Sure Yeah I can get behind that Please listen to the throne trilogy It made me love Star Wars again That is usually the one that gets touted as being Like the best one of the EU content right Throne trilogy I feel like just So much Star Wars content that like gets But always amazing By the loads of people ends up being garbage I don't want to try the throne trilogy In case you don't like it Especially because I hear all the time How great the Clone Wars is And I hear Theo talking about it Wow so Theo's lies Have managed to convince rags that The Clone Wars isn't good My point of view, the Theo is right Wow rags Believing someone who's tricked you That shows your mental fortitude doesn't it Terrible But seriously though The Clone Wars I think When the episode came out or the arc ended For whatever the latest thing was It was an EFAP episode where I was talking about How amazing it was that it was getting 10 out of 10s across the board Reviews And I just, I think you can account for a lot of it With how the sequel trilogy Is fucking terrible And anything that isn't that Gets a lot of positive feedback But it's a little bit weird Because even like Mandalorian Suffers heavily from Writing bullshit Oh yeah it's writing is terrible It's world-building is atrocious And it's writing is terrible And the plot is nonsensical basically Already gotten messages and ads being like Please tear down season 2 Because some people are saying it's great and it's just like Damn people already want us back for a You know Mandalorian is back on the menu boys Is there a 2 episode? There's not only like 2 episodes No I think it's either 4 or 5 now Wow My convo is getting torn apart Jay do something Jay do something Jay Ah For the love of god Jay I need it I need this needs to be multiplayer And you guys can help me that's the only way this would work It has co-op originally didn't it Yeah but I don't know how to set that up Look that's That is unfortunate I feel like you kicked the CIS ass ranks You fucking melt them with all these wings We would definitely Wait I have to play as the Republic No I know right At least it's not as bad as Mandalorian where The Republic are clearly the bad guys Did you guys Ever play the The Battlefront games Like the older ones Yeah Well I bet They aren't That's all I know Yeah I definitely have fun with them too But I'd be actually pretty willing to say That they're bad games that are designed poorly I imagine the map design Is pretty good still it's the AI That I'd have the most criticisms for Yeah map design I remember it being okay The AI is horrible And the weapons are incredibly unbalanced That's funny It's almost like a power fantasy What What are you thinking of when you say that specifically Like it just lets You be incredibly good with no You know even like the tentative balance True you can play against like other humans right You can yeah But I feel like that just lets all the cheese Come out People in chat Doctor who hunts You feel like They're like on a delay and they haven't realized that you have Probably not that much of a delay I was I mean if you've been watching for hours And you have like mediocre internet Sometimes it does get delayed that much True Yeah that's happening to me I'm just killing things at this point in this map I don't even know if I'm doing this right Oh I've lost another ship in the combat That's probably bad Jay do something Ain't she a beautiful sight You know I am doing stuff and Quite frankly if I hadn't been doing it You would have lost several more ships And I'm being underappreciated Okay how convenient for you Like manually or does it automatic Oh that's me um accidentally doing it I feel like the first person View is not something I want Ever Feels super awkward in first person I can imagine Like just looking at it looks Really awkward Yeah Fuck you airship Bonus objective complete Star Wars? Like a post-scare Society? Of course it is They don't have any Y-wings In the sequel trilogy it must be Oh yeah that's right They don't have enough fuel Also they have They've invented bullshit like It's not a post-scarcity society I want you to know as well how stupid that is When Rose looks at the fuel It looks to be like close to under half They've used hyperspace once And now if they use it again They're out of fuel Like how bullshit is that Fucking movie Like I can buy the idea That things have fuel like obviously You have to have a power source But it was never an issue in the old ones The point where It was just extremely efficient And it was never really something you had to worry about I just got the impression that they could Hit hyperdrive quite a few times before Yeah Technology went backwards Of course it did Just like a shitty plot device Just like what kind of You know city planning How weird is it that they Left their base and they're like They have no fuel Yeah that's weird too Your own base you would think you'd start The more we think about TLJ The worse it gets No way Even though Once every few months someone will release a big old video Saying TLJ is not as bad as you think Or a guide to TLJ Or you misunderstood TLJ And all the arguments are the same Guide you through liking it Just listen to the sound of my Video essays Guide you through it They know what's best for you okay It's so Like demeaning I think For people to say shit like that It's like okay you like TLJ Sure or anything Like okay fine you like it But like I don't and these are my reasons why Don't tell me oh you just didn't understand it Like no motherfucker I did And I have an opinion There are things that get Widely misunderstood though I wouldn't want to close that off entirely Like if someone But with TLJ Like I think Enough arguments have been made For sure What they usually appeal to use the whole The film is about failure and you didn't understand it I got it It's totally The TLJ style videos Of going through loads of arguments Against the film and talking about why They don't work at all And talking about stuff that people missed And didn't pick up on and how well crafted it is Bly Manor has been in those videos What you're saying the Bly Manor Has been misunderstood by people Yeah Bly Manor well Perhaps not misunderstood it's been Interpreted in poor faith It's quite the assumption Of garbage Like people saying it's woke garbage Yeah It annoys me That's a really dumb one False positives All I just wanted to clarify though I think there is precedent Someone watching something And I think I misunderstood that shit What was going on in that Or something like that And the friend would be like oh this this this this And they're like oh neat okay I got it That's possible It's just it comes across as bad optically If your title of your video Yeah if the title of your video is you Need to guide to this It's like thanks There's a massive difference between that Like everyone's like hey I think I misunderstood that And someone posh as fuck Coming through like Hey you Who have made the popular opinion about this Known on the internet Misunderstood this piece of media That you have heavily dissected Well I think I mean we had a conversation With people who Heavily dissected Some spider-man movies And I have no doubt that they Did try That they did not do a good job And submitting the information Which happens To change teams On whether or not TLJ is good or bad And I imagine that when they switch teams They'll be like I misunderstood previously And now I do understand you know Yeah of course Oh humans How interesting you are That like There seems to be On the side of people who like Talk about the TLJ is bad It's pretty neutral Like pretty widespread of types of people But like the I find Usually the people who say TLJ is like Good or like really good Typically tend to be all very Very similar in their ideas Yeah it's weird I don't even know exactly why that is Well when I first spoke to um TRO he said that he noticed If you're on the right wing you'll dislike it If you're on the left wing you'll like it And I was like what the fuck Now it's just terrible I was gonna say more so Like the people that do like it Tend to be all of them That I've seen so far are very very left wing And the people that don't like it It's definitely a tendency I think Well he said it was something he noticed And it was so alien to me Cause I was just like oh it wasn't even A political bent at all I just thought It was really poorly written Oh yeah I wouldn't cite causation there I'd say there's correlation to some extent That I've noticed Like um It's It's that very I don't know I don't know it's that very It's not just uh People are all left it's more People who fucking eat up the Like pink capitalism Shit of like oh we put Oh yeah The more Female More People who like when They were like We said No fucking way people did that Oh yeah they did We're done We're done guys that's it It's over give up It's a very Different group of people who are just Their ideology isn't actually A fully formed ideology it's just Women good put women in place Yeah they're fine with boot looking If the boot stuff feels I mean but like on the On the opposite side And I'm not like okay first of all This is not a broad generalization about everyone I feel like I don't need to say that But maybe for some of the people in chat Um People are on the right and are just like Anti SJW maybe not even like Fully on the right but anti SJW Yeah like the people who think that Blime manner is like Like that right People who think brown people couldn't come up with doorways Hahaha Hahaha Wait rags you think that's ridiculous Are you serious? No hold on but like seriously guys like I know we're Joking but I actually don't know how to make a door Can someone explain Oh we don't even have to make a door I just hear it out Have a wall Just have a shitty wall Jay I'm glad you appreciated it Take a wall get a hammer At the door was a jar but I don't understand I thought a jar was a jar I'm so confused Yeah this is all very confusing Fuck this is so hard I'm Obi Wan I should be OP Blime manner isn't woke It's just mediocre Um that's no Yeah that's not true at all Listen I prefer someone saying it's mediocre to Saying it's woke because that's cringe You know what I What would make it woke like the diversity Well so there's a gay couple in it There is a black person in it There is What? Two black people Jesus Christ see it I thought it was woke but damn Like you guys are just reminding me it is super woke And you know the white guy The mean like the white guy The only white guy on the show The only one yeah No the other three I found an excavation site Well I mean like miles Um Don't count And then you've got the two I'm blanking on their names The dad and the uncle Yeah the dad and the uncle Black guy miles Loretta No no no the white guy's got miles Oh How could they that's cultural appropriation Amy Grant We just goes a long way I'm surprised I haven't heard people Like save it like the last of us too Is like SJW Oh yeah I hear that all the time Yeah Maybe I'm not like listening that much I've just heard people talking about it that it's not good Oh it's terrible I played it Yeah it was like compared to the first one It's nowhere near good Her husband Her husband as well He's a pretty alright guy That's who I meant Yeah he seems like an upstanding dude He just gets the real shot on the stick He really, yeah it's not a long stick I'll agree with that How did you feel about Ellie being gay Uh guys I don't care that's fine So that's not what makes it SJW world pandering I don't I don't call the last of us to SJW world pandering that's not really something I say about it You know what? Yeah you're right I asked two separate questions I'm sorry It's just terrible from a writing perspective And the gameplay can be super cheesed And it isn't mechanically consistent Dude like five separate people in chat Have just type wait, Ellie is gay? Seriously Are we fucking with us or what No they don't They probably just forgot that Dina Is a character in the game Oh that's fair More like plot device Oh The last of us two was just normal garbage I think Okay so I'm sorry So the people that you have Heard say That it's woke SJW pandering garbage Are they saying that that is because Ellie is gay I've heard them say like they made it To overt in bit of the first game Like her gayness What I can't go any further than that Cause it's not a position I hold I just Well it's when you grab the camera And you say I like Gay I am all the gay And I am all the straight Dun dun dun dun I had a lightsaber battle Like isn't there a point where you can Reach a hundred percent Avert like at the point it's explicitly stated It can't become more avert than that right I would say so Well Well for an example If someone said I am gay And then someone was like that's over And then the next scene they say I am still gay I'd be like wow they're really pounding it in Like Something with a gay character Is gonna be less overtly gay Like the gayness Is gonna be less overt than a gay porn That's like clearly centrally about Gayness and gay sex Gay porn is too overt Gay porn You think being gay is just about sex huh Yes, literally yes Try and count to that Jay All the gays do is have gay sex Attraction isn't purely about sex All they do is Get gay married and have gay children Is fucked up That's why it's like It's appropriate for children to go to weddings Because they have gay children Attractions just to do with sex Oh I remember It's appropriate to show A gay wedding on TV Because you'll fuck with kids minds Oh that I know what show that was It was Sesame Street I was actually thinking of Arthur And that's why I know Bullshit was very happy That they took that episode down and Was it Alabama? We gotta do babies With Alabama They ain't ready for gay They ain't ready for gay What is he? Is he a rat? He ain't ready for that gay rat wedding They're still trying to wrap their head around anthropomorphic animals We gotta take this really slow Now If it was gay cousin marriage They might start That's where they should have started honestly No we're brothers And you're like alright Alabama's like Super Smash Bros. gay life I got it What Oh did you guys hear that like Nintendo shut down A gameplay event? Yeah I heard that Oh yeah that's part of why they Fucking hated right now right? Or at least Piece of it I guess Why the fuck do they do shit like that? Because Nintendo is fucking always does the shit But people give them a pass for it It doesn't make sense to me Like what is their motivation for my poor friend Because they're fucking Nintendo and they're fucking stupid Why would they not want to still make money From like old games To continue making money My assumption would be they're not seeing the value Here in terms of like what I can do for them as a company Because honestly capitalist perspective They should just let it go I actually think they see like a loss in sales When people are doing this Or something All those people who would have thought Super Smash Bros. Melee or just Not incredibly successful game It's a weird one I assume it's to do with them being like Hey this is our IP You play it in places I don't know some lawyer made a mistake Dude it's turning a game that like Is made in Nintendo Zero revenue right now And making it be a Fairly big revenue stream for them If they instead of shutting down tournaments Say hey we're gonna throw our own fucking tournaments I'm gonna knock out two convoys Why do I have to do everything in this game What's that about Jay's just doing it now Wait what did you just say Jay I'm piercing and shitting and coming On the enemies Or on me because that's not gonna help They weren't using a hacking engine I think it was just to give it like Local co-op or something It was something along those lines It was like a split screeny Like connection sort of thing that they hacked into it And that was what they used it for It wasn't like an in-game Hacker at some time I would be at the point now Where whatever someone's doing to that game Is fine It's so fucking old They're just upset that people hold on to the good one Yeah Love these new ones aren't good It's just interesting that this is the one that everybody Sticks with This is the competitive one Yeah everyone just fucking adores the mechanics in it We bring this up every time it comes up But it's just the thing I remember I started running around And I fucking tripped over myself I was like what the hell is this And my friend was like yeah you don't move too fast Too quickly otherwise you'll trip What It seems like a flaunting mechanic Well it's to discourage Something I don't know what Why don't we just Load the player movement speed Maybe someone in chat knows why Why don't we just not trip Cause gay tripping is gay Yeah Now one thing I will say is that Back when I was active on the day Z There was a lot of interesting discussions there But um There were some people who said That it is a It would be a good mechanic If um You Every once in a while Your character would just like randomly sprain Their ankle I was against this Cause some people really want that game To be like a hardcore Super hardcore simulator Right I understand With your character What are you walking around just randomly sprain in your leg Yeah that sounds like a game design to me Oh yeah To me it felt like I mean maybe I was wrong But to me it just wouldn't seem all that fun To just be walking around Doing your thing Playing the game and all of a sudden boom You have a sprained leg I think it should go a bit further I think it should program brain aneurysms into the game I'll be awesome Randomly get hill house Cause the way that I worded this Is like so you guys Every time your character takes a step It's a random number generator That on a 0.000 Whatever percent There's a chance that your character just sprains Or fractures their leg and just trips Yeah that sounds awful and I hate it Catastrophic leg injury I feel like If they made that as rare As for example getting a shiny pokemon That there would be people who would be streaming Trying to get like sprained Angle on every character It would become a rarity that's like Sort after Random grits and multiplayer games good That depends do you Sure you have to be more specific Because There is the appearance of randomness An actual randomness In fact I was playing vermitide just a second ago And one of the best stats You can give yourself this crit chance But like when you talk about Pure randomness Like out of what Like in Was the effect of the crit Is that an aspect of the Randomness in multiplayer games Particularly The way it usually works with mechanics like that Is that they cost less Than flat damage But they're not guaranteed damage or something like that That'll be the healthy try and balance I mean generally The Yeah I like risk and reward systems But that doesn't mean they don't have to be random A lot of them can just be An extremely Difficult thing to pull off That can have really good rewards Like Glass cannon characters are generally Just considered high risk high reward characters Because they're very squishy but they do a lot of damage I think that Like with In some games have a Like a weapon does Like from 1000 to 1100 damage Where it will fall Within that range But it will be randomized between that range I'm okay with that It's not a big difference Generally in a lot of the other stuff That you have on your character matters way way more Oh no there's a man In the back Oh no He looks better without the grey Beard honestly I think so too Also Mando should hate him Another squad of fighter tanks Mando should fucking hate Cargett in the character But he doesn't because Mando is a Pathetic cuck Does it play in vermont too? Yeah it was Are you still playing daisy? No but I should start it again I played it a while with some friends And we played on like custom servers and stuff And it was pretty fun But I should get back into it honestly I don't do it it's the most played game on steam I've had a lot of fun in daisy In all of its messy Strangeness Mola I don't want to take skin away from the old That is something I said I don't really see Why that would need context I think it's self explanatory Like you wouldn't want to take Skin from somebody right Unless they consenting maybe Unless it's like a graft or something Again if you're cool with it Are you still playing daisy? No I haven't I might check it out later But that game is like a weird You could probably like the development of daisy And its effect on gaming And its development history And It's a really odd one Daisy really just sort of Even of all the open world Survival games Daisy really does seem to stand apart From the rest for better or worse Daisy was really cool I liked it I've ultimately enjoyed my time with daisy Going around with people and playing that game It was fun like it was one of the few games That really gives you the sense of Going on a journey Having an adventure It was fun I don't regret it It felt like My girlfriend is just Microwave But It felt like The sort of the scenarios That my friends and I would come up with For like Apocalypse things or Scenario that we would just talk about In general and like throwing up or in high school and shit It felt like someone had taken those Out of our heads and made it Into a video game that they could do that And I was fucking great I loved it It was the most humble slayest video We need you to take them out What is it? There's so many fucking video essays Now it's ridiculous How can you possibly keep up? Daisy video essay 3 The evolution of the daisy mod Yeah I don't know what we would say My information on daisy is so limited I've never played the mod So I have nothing to really say about it Ask them the Christmas vs Halloween question We did Also tell everyone how we got to have Halloween this year But the Christenoids don't get to have theirs What do you mean they don't? What? We're doing Christmas on eFab Hell yeah Let's go biblical We're gonna keep Christmas going till the fucking epiphany Oh my god Yeah we're gonna watch We're gonna get some Christmas eFab movies going We'll have our avatars be crimboey We're gonna have the The look for eFab will probably change You guys excited for Christmas times? Because they're coming November is more of a chill period between the two It's like alright you guys can do whatever you want It's like oh thanks November Oh you don't Yeah because you guys don't have Thanksgiving for us It's like Halloween Thanksgiving Christmas Yeah but You don't really associate November As the month of Thanksgiving right? Yeah No we do Thanksgiving's pretty great I don't know why Yeah it's like a big deal I'm very glad that's the case You just eat a lot of food Eat a lot of fall themed food Will capital opinions debate Mueller on why Haunted of Hill House is bad? We kinda did That's why you should watch Metal Stream Yeah you're gonna have to go find the right Metal Stream where we do It's like a two hour combo It was really fun you know Haunted of Hill House is negative Now I just opened YouTube on my phone And I'm getting recommended Mueller videos now Damn This is how it starts The beginning of the end Oh no I exploded Wait I exploded and my corpse was the Hellfire droid the fuck Hellfire What's going on there? Are they trying to say that the Republic vehicles Were constructed of bots? It's a conspiratism Another demand When you Dumbos play Doki Doki Literature Club Each person must voice the characters separately So 5 people for 5 characters I mean If we do it sure You guys play Doki Doki Literature Club on street? We haven't Someone wants us to though Ah You know how it is It's fine That's not a very good ringing endorsement Master The thing is Everybody already knows When they play What the end Surprise and twist This guy has already shouted at our guests For implying anything about the surprise of the game So Apparently we are unaware of it Oh okay I would say play it then It's a very interesting Thought provoked Is it about sadism? Yes It is the only way you can have an outlook For sadism There should be no outlook So it's actually bad As long as you are aware of how bad That is It's fucking games chaos Everything is fire Fire away Jay Of course Jay is not helping me Oh my god I need health I don't agree that jumpscares and horror are necessarily bad Good thing no one said that As long as game has good atmosphere Mechanics outlast closer to amnesia Than to jumpscare Fucking no You don't get excused for having shitty jumpscares If your atmosphere is overall good Yeah There's still really lazy Lowest form As far as I'm concerned it's all about how you contextualize The jumpscare Outlast is pathetic It just grabs you and shouts at you You got me I guess But you know what Outlast can finally say At least it's not as bad as an amnesia game That was something Outlast never expected to be able to say But there we are What was that game Where you just keep walking through the same hallway Over and out That one freaked me out Maybe You just keep In the game you just walk through Same hallway over and over And you get to the end door And it's the same fucking hallway And you just go through over and over And creepy shit happens And it's this sense that something might come And you know that there's this potential For something to come That just kept me super fucking on edge I didn't even enjoy it But I recognize afterwards Like wow that's a powerful thing Was it like a demo? Yeah Yeah that'd be p2 At least a couple of years ago Yeah wasn't um p2 was made by The same sort of group of people To a degree that made Ended up making Fucking death stranding There's no one readers was in it Like in the demo That's Kojima The guy that made like a metal gear To that sort of people that did like metal gear I've got this timeline in my head But I don't know if it's bullshit where Pt was supposed to evolve into silent hills And then that all got scrapped And then he went on and just made Death stranding Was that what happened? Someone knows this better than I do for sure Pt is made by Kojima But I don't think this is the game That I was Talking about Yeah I'm not sure how many other games Satisfy the quota of being Horror, keeping you on edge Walking through similar corridors And it being a demo That isn't pt It's not similar quarters It is the same hallway over and over And there's like a phone And sometimes the phone will ring That is pt That is pt Okay because I'm seeing a screenshot here of like outside But maybe that's just cover art So I didn't watch any video It's approaching from the rear Okay then I'm wrong Yeah I'm just Oh no you're right this is it Yeah Man I hated this shit STD Pt Moeller rags you're the best Oh that's nice But disagree about Vader's rampage at the end of Rogue One It was awesome but doesn't match what he does When he boards the Tantive 4 In 10 minutes later also high rags So I would argue it does When When they board the Tantive The stormtroopers pour through And then he's Following up on them, he has no reason to kill anybody at that point Outside of one person Who fucks with him Tim's giving him information so he strangles him to death Breaks his face And throws it against the wall Vader Is Dramatically feared and even willing to make an example Of people on his own team As well as kill them when they're failing Like the idea that he wouldn't cut the shit down Of rebel soldiers I don't see why he wouldn't It's weird to think he wouldn't do that Yeah I couldn't believe that He was just trying to do the job fast In Rogue One because They're literally on a timer trying to get that plan Before it buys off and obviously it's too late Meanwhile They have captured the people In the beginning of Rogue One A new hope But this is a constant discussion about whether or not That scene is in character or not As far as I'm concerned it's fine To me it seems like of course it's in character Yeah As long as the people he's killing aren't Dressed in literal Grass skirts And throwing spears I think it's fine That sounds sadistic to me Yeah and it's also worse than racism God Also Anakin Jay can you guys do something All my convoy is getting muted If I have to yell at you God damn time To help out The convoy You'll regret it This is medium difficulty Fucking what the hell is the hardest difficulty Gonna be like Or is that a medium piece You'll paint you know what I have vague memories Of doing that when I was super young It's probably just Purely anger inducing this level I imagine So you're saying it's not a good outlet For your anger No good for sadism though For the sadism they inflict upon Me as creators They were clearly trying to piss me off What if it's sadism and you just like being sad That's sadist Here's sadist He's sad Shout out to the little brother Easter Hello Hey Easter how you doing We'll see you in a while Easter's fine He's cool You can make a good company You know when you want some eggs I gotta clear a whole base now Everything just keeps getting worse Hollywood's plan To stop Moeller from making videos Keep releasing garbage media Also Metal Commander is underrated What do you guys reckon? Metal Commander underrated? How is he rated? Who's rating? I don't know That's the thing He's a PG Pretty good I'd say he's underrated Is that me come where? Where did he come? He let you come where? On his stream That's That is actually quite nice of him To just let you come all over the stream But I don't know that you could just rate that As something that makes him a good person Well I disagree I think that makes me Look I mean that's him being like Look man you come And obviously risking Getting banned For this so he must be a good person Like that generous See I don't know about that logic Like honestly I just don't know Well I don't know about you not knowing about it But I do know about you Whether or not you knew about me knowing it So that kind of destroys your whole life I'm too wrapped up filming in two days Hey so I like when I went to Eat when I got my Uber Eats And left for a little bit I was watching something on my PS4 And a new thing popped up In the main screen That's like PS5 So apparently you can control your PS5 You have a PS5 Through your PS4 Which makes no fucking sense to me Why on earth you would want to do that How's that work? Exact so You click it and it says Connect your PS5 search for PS5 So that if you really want to play Your PS5 through your PS4 You can add some extra latency To your PS5 gameplay Makes no fucking sense But it is if any of you have a PS4 And it's like updated recently Check this I swear to god This is like Makes no sense Do they have to be like connected to the internet Or is this wifi or is this just like I think it's fucking bluetooth Just physically search Like search in the room Like One thing which still would be stupid Is if like your PS5 is in another Fucking house and you can play it Through your PS4 over wifi Like a god damn google stadia But still that stupid What if you are upstairs And you have your PS4 upstairs And the new PS5 is downstairs And you're just really lazy and you don't want to go downstairs To play it Say PS5 Go go gadget PS5 Let's play it You could get Your kicks off of playing your PS5 Without Getting out of bed I guess That seems to make sense Think on that Look man you're the one coming On the metal stream You really got room to complain there That's literally what it's for There you go The things that I suggest As a joke are things that sony does In earnest Is it so you can play it In a different room with a PS4 That's literally what it's for Someone who's so fucking lazy Who's such a worthless fucking slob Of a human being Can't even get out of bed to go and play Their new console that they buy Poor people Well You can play PS5 So you can't be that poor What point will being disabled Not mean anything Soon enough Soon enough What do you mean What are you referencing I don't know anything Listen We're coming up to 7 Brain power is going to be limited Some motherfuckers don't want your Spanish Pork is the best on Thanksgiving I would argue Pork is good pretty much Anytime it's cooked well It doesn't taste better on Thanksgiving I don't know You also get the mashed potatoes And the cranberry sauce And the gravy and the rolls And all the other stuff And then the turkeys And the extra time and effort To make everything just right on a special day The buttery corn And the stuffing I know a thing or two about stuffing Yeah, he's talking about Being Spanish, being Hispanic And having a Hispanic Thanksgiving What do they have to be thankful for Not being white these days It's fucking great But still kind of being white That sucks Being white I mean That's the big suck Human sandwiches A wrinkle in time Human sandwiches are the goat I'm Cuban Cuban sandwiches are fucking ham You want to know the real Cuban It is the Fanko Nachom or Fanko Mite Those are real Cuban sandwiches But you're not going to get what's called a Cuban sandwich Here Authenticity is not the point They're Cuban-American sandwiches And they're Cuban sandwiches are great And you're wrong Yeah, Spanish people are white People from Spain specifically are white But, uh, hello White people are Spanish is what you mean Yeah, white people are all Spanish people are not white Done, baby I was just Someone in chat said since when did Cubans have food He's just so right So fucking right Dude, do you want to hear a really sad story? Um, no No No So, um Yeah Yeah, we're having a jovial Wonderful fun happy We're being gay as donuts I don't want to hear your sad story Are donuts gay? Are donuts gay? They're really Have you seen a donut? They look kind of gay, I will say Have you seen a donut hole? Yeah They're pretty great I love the subreddit Shitty movie details, it's so good You guys really would movie details Like the concept No, just subreddit Well, it was edit yes because It's good subreddit, right? Sometimes, sometimes it's really fucking stupid And that's why shitty movie details is the best Because it makes fun of how stupid Movie details can be The aim is to point out like, you know Neat little, neat pics, you know Like all this super cool little attention to detail Thing in this movie, I'm going to point it out Right Shitty movie details is so fucking good Just the most recent posters In 2008's Iron Man Gwyneth Paltrow attempts to emulate human emotion And fails Pretty good Ah, but where's the line? Mola, have you ever thought of having Magog of Morskar On the Ifa podcast sometime? I think he'd be a real good addition when he's not busy No idea who that is Anyone know who Magog Morskar is? Sounds like a new Fantasy series Name Do we like fantasy series name people or do we hate them? I don't remember Um, ambivalent Ending Hispanic With European ancestry Violates the one drop rule and is therefore White That would have been true This is for Satan's laugh Oh, thanks He has got a good laugh Hi rags Mola, your poor art critiques Dammit New Christmas forever Yeah, we'll keep it going For as long as we can That's forever You think Halloween is great Well, Christmas is 12 days No, Christmas is much longer than 12 days How many days? I went to Target yesterday And it's already full of Christmas I got Christmas ads already Yeah, but none of that counts I'm talking when Christmas actually starts It's like 12 days of Christmas Christmas begins officially The day after Thanksgiving And it goes until Yes, that is true January 6th Yeah, that's 3 Kings Day I do think that's kind of the That's the epiphany No, seriously Like, uh January 6th Seriously though I wish that I could invest In, like, Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas Like, as if it were a stuff Because interest in it goes up So fucking much After Halloween Dude, I'm battling the pro Proto-de-car Is battling, like, a juvenile bat? Yeah Do you guys remember this from the movies? Because I don't You made this up The game makes stuff up How fucking insulting is that? Of course, material, huh? I'm pretty insulted Heels, lame, man Ah Only missiles Why must they hate Mola or rags, have you looked at any Black Friday deals? I haven't Yeah, wait, when was Black Friday? No, I haven't Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving Yeah, well, I mean Yeah, that's what I meant by yeah Because I don't think it's happened yet There was an interesting pattern with pricing of movies That bombed at the box office on the PlayStation store I mean, it only makes sense, right? The more in demand something is, the higher you can price it If everyone fucking hates a movie If you put it at a low price It might just consider Giving it, uh, buying it Yeah, I mean, that's like the $5 bargain bin At, like, $1 Who doesn't love bargain? I like those, like, 3-movie DVD packs Package 3 random things together I have one that's It's platoon, dances with wolves And silence of the lambs Wow Don't ask me why There's 3 movies for package together But they were, and it was $5 Why can't I run underneath them? This bullshit I saw there No, you go Jay Where about Ice Cream? I saw a, um A Jaws 3-movie box set Uh, and it was, like, Jaws 2, Jaws 3D and Jaws the Revenge It was a Jaws Two Jaws I love it I saw one at, uh, Walmart That's, like, it was based on Ice Cube And it was, like, are we there yet? Oh, yeah, I know that one Boys in the Hood And then another one of the family movies he did Like, one of these things Probably doesn't belong here Hmm That sounds like your opinion, though Nothing wrong with being a boy in the hood No, that's, that's objective Wow I feel like though it's obvious, like, 3 movies on you Would be, like, Alien, Terminator, Predator Wouldn't it be the best 3-movie bundle of Geo Trilogy? Can we do that? Yeah, probably, because it's obvious Well, I said, like, 3 movies on you Would be, like, Alien, Terminator, Predator Wouldn't it be the best 3-movie bundle of Geo Trilogy? Probably, because it's obvious, man Trilogies Everyone loves them So true That statement is so strange Trilogies We all love them I mean, 3 is the magic number, so That's what I've heard God, this is carnage Well, the thoughts on Raimi Spider-Man 2 I've always loved it So far as I can tell, there's a lot more flaws in it Than I previously thought You said that very diplomatically I mean, yeah, the last thing I want to say is I fucking hate it, it's garbage Like, why would I do that to someone's poor brain on the show? Why would I do that? What is your thoughts on Spider-Man 2 Rest of the cast? I liked it when I saw it, like, However many years ago, it's been a long time They really, they really tried You say they really tried What? Um, no, it's um It's brought down by some stuff That uh, it's solid I tried googling 3 movie variety packs And getting his Kellogg's Fruit Loops, Cocoa Christie's And Applejack's My favorite movies, best films Deserve Oscars Do you know if QT's has been nominated for an Oscar Or is it on the nomination shortlist or whatever? Yeah, of course Or in film Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised If they're just trying to get people Like, through controversy I'm gonna make you pay You cut out after people It was so close, all we had, we had, it was This was the perfect let's all unite And get behind this one movie And agree that it's fucking horrendous It's so easy, it's fucking child exploitation We can all agree on that, right? Nope Nope I didn't even I didn't even fucking hear that Oh my god, that was fucking lame Did you guys see this cutscene? The fuck Uh, yeah, I'm watching the stream today The hell, Anakin The editing and that was I guess he shot me with a trance or something I don't know Someone says, ask me in capital The Wa question, what is that? The Wa question Wa Table or seven Oh, it's Wa, it's the Japanese Wa So, table or seven though What do you mean? Which do you choose? That's a Table, I guess Alright, and capital opinions Table or seven You what? Alright I feel like you have to understand These potential representations of gene Like you have to see the original gene To understand how well they're representing it I feel like Well, so I've seen a lot of discussion on this And I do understand the table argument I really do It's just the seven, yeah, it's tough I don't want to call it myself, I just don't want to But I was hoping capital opinions would But here he is, rushing off In the moment that we need him the most He's rushing Yeah, but he didn't think about that Oh, now you've got a Russian person on Alright, everyone remind me to ask Jamie when he's back about table or seven I will never believe that God plays Fortnite with the universe That is an Albert Einstein quote I don't know if you guys knew that Everyone knows that Yeah, jeez, alright A poor boy from an African village Created Fortnite And that boy's name Albert Einstein Albert Einstein Albert Einstein Jay, you didn't say Albert Einstein, what the fuck I did Actually No, you didn't, you liar I did it already before the streamer No, you didn't I got ahead of my work I called bullshit on that I don't think it's heresy I did to person chat Whatever Let's get out of here, I want to kill more droids Oh cool, I'm freeing wookies I'm the good guy I'm a wookie freer Do you have a W with Passmola? I'm a wookie The wookie pass I mean I must be getting it from freeing them Would you Be really awkward if they'll get gunned down The second I release them, wouldn't it Would be awkward No Jay, shut up Chewbacca is just saying like Horrible racial epithets Like the whole time Chewbacca Albert Faustain Like there are so many things you can do With adding subtitles to Chewbacca and R2-D2 It's like the Hitler scene Where he has a breakdown I bet people still do that Probably Is there a guy called Chewbacca pet? Oh my god So the A and the P in EFAP The two red lines That's the Twin Towers, right? Yeah No, didn't someone know We've been called the 9-Eleven of podcasts Someone Someone Someone did Like send a Like a cover for a 9-Eleven Special of EFAP Where the family were through the Twin Towers Someone submitted that It was like you should use this Never forget it Oh my There's an element of Timing and respect That may not be respected In that particular art form Hey, everyone has their opinion Also Have you returned now? Opinions of the capital Have I returned? Yeah, you're gone Oh yeah, my internet did a tism And now I'm back Giant lasers keep killing me We have an important question to ask You guys aren't divergent now Did you not tell them? No, he didn't tell us he was going And now he's back, so now I have to ask A question Oh, do it Table or seven We'll go table, why not? Damn, two votes for table here, I don't know guys Looking pretty lopsided here I mean, Jay's going for seven I see what you did there I lopsided table I'm just thinking of penis Penis penis when you say lopsided Penis penis I like penis Do you have a position on this? I don't have a position on this Is this the first one where we're just going to watch The results pour in? We're just going to watch the world burn Dad, you really are the 9-11 A podcast, huh? Also, is this game suggesting I'm not allowed to save the fucking Wookiees because that is unacceptable Like I have to accept So are Wookiees from Endor? Is that ever explained? No, they're from Kashyyyk, what the fuck Kashyyyk Do you even watch Star Wars? You absolute Fake nude Yeah, of course I've watched Star Wars But then I saw the South Park episode Where the guy's like, this is Chewbacca Chewbacca is a Wookie But he lives on Endor And I was like, yeah, does he? No, I don't think so Why are you saying that? Where did that come from? Where did that come from? Holy fuck, did anyone else see that On the stream? Wookiees are gonna die, it just cut away before The Wookiees died The whole stream Just strobed Seizury I didn't see that Sorry about that Yeah, sorry about that All those poor Wookmen Have just been killed, I feel bad Do you think if you're epileptic You can get a monitor or application That doesn't allow For the presenting of fast flashing Possibly Really? That seems difficult To like Well, the thing is If you are offering that as a product And it goes wrong You're probably liable Yeah Those products can't be Seen as guarantees, right? You've got to market those as something Safety net rather than a fix Yeah I wouldn't want to be the company Manufacturing those Someone in the comments said they love the symmetry Of the table and I agree with that Gene isn't fucking symmetrical Yeah, but the other one isn't Don't yell at me, okay He's yelling to you Yeah, it's different Yeah That was a really effective cell Holding you What? Um, one bow was in a really effective Cell Did they put you in the cell with your lightsaber? No, I have to get it from a droid Ah Also they were going to kill me I guess Because as soon as I escape this place it blows up Fucking dooku man, kind of trusted Is this game canon? Oh yeah, totally Someone in chat said Kashyyyk equals Brazil I'm not really sure if that's an insult To Kashyyyk or to Brazil Or a compliment I guess we'll never know Brazilian people, particularly Harry I know, I can tell you That's why they have a type of waxing That's specifically for Brazilians Yeah Because of how Harry they are That's what I'm saying It's a specific thing for them They have to have their own technique for waxing Everyone thought they wouldn't Harry But it turns out they were super Harry But it's actually quite the opposite It's like that the hairs are so fine That like It's a different, whatever, it doesn't matter It doesn't change the amount of hair They're not particularly Harry That's what Brazilian waxing is There's less hair Propaganda Was originally supposed to be the battle of Kashyyyk But they didn't have It means to create Kashyyyk Because George Lucas envisioned it So he created a different planet for it instead Damn, that's more It was going to be Wookiees instead of Ewoks I've heard that somewhere But I don't have a source Can anyone in chat verify that for me Whether or not that's true Don't verify if Jay's making shit up again Because return the jet I would have been cooler If it was Wookiees I don't think so I don't think so Also, I would say that The merchandising at that point Was something that was in the minds of people And Wookiees I don't think were as marketable as We don't care about what's marketable As Ewoks Sure, we don't We're talking about us, we're not talking about them We don't care He's talking about Lucas He said why Lucas did a particular thing And then he said I think it would have been cooler To have had Wookiees He said an empire of dreams I think I have that I have a documentary about the original trilogy It came with the box set Of the original trilogy It was like the fourth desk Fucking neat Yay The G-Table E-P-Table is life What? Oh, the G-Pine While officially The fact does not have an official stance On Jean's true form I was there During Jean's inception Yes I don't recall him being symmetrical That is true We can confirm that particular element Yeah, I don't think that he was a symmetrical Whatever he is The only issue with the seven is it's mirrored It's not the same way around as Jean But honestly, you know what I think Jean is capable of changing That's what you're saying That's rags, what did I just fucking say? What? Well, I think we can all agree That neither symbol fully encompasses All the beauty and majesty Of Jean Yeah, yeah, that's fine I think we can sort of, yeah, okay I'm the nation of Chad You're Venetian Jay Rhimes with gay coincidence I think Venetian Was that a superjack? That is a superjack And I did a reference there One of you should have gone there, okay Oh, is it the Simpsons? Nope I remember that tone of voice so clearly Oh, incidents, I think Oh, I know that so well What the fuck is that from? That's bugging me now That's from the movie Pixar It is a Pixar movie Incredible Oh, you got it before chat too Just before chat Chat has a delay, so That's the challenge Chat have a million minds And Jay has just won Has a million Whoa, I can fire giant lasers This game just keeps surprising Incredibles was that one movie that I played A million times as a kid What was the score with yours? The Incredibles? Wait, what's the movie we played over and over? Yeah, as a kid I had a few Yeah, mine was I think my number one was The Great Mouse Detective That was another one for me, T2 was another one for me I watched that one a godly amount of times Hey, so My girlfriend just called me over to kill a bug And No, but I get there and the bug Didn't already die, he like walked out Just to fucking die He walked out just to die He walked out in the open Just to fucking kill him I want you to see me die Or it like found out She was getting someone to kill it and he was like Fuck you, I'll die on my own too At least I don't get killed by a woman That's what I think, like each shoot Oh, damn, someone's coming to kill me, fuck it I'm going on my own terms That's what I said You can't kill me, I suicide Yeah, he said you can't kill me, I suicide It's not fun, is it? Let's repeat you those jokes Fucked up I'm gonna probably complain to NASA They probably have some hand in this I don't know what other movies I watched a lot as a kid I'm sure there's a bunch of them Trying to think the ones that particularly lies to the top When I was a kid I used to watch Tarzan And then I'd get to the trash in the camp scene And then I'd just play that scene Over and over and over and over and over again Until my parents got a no-hate Yeah Any of you guys have like Old VHSs? Oh, actually I took a picture, so recently I went to my grandparents' house Where I used to spend a lot of time as a We Little Doggo I found the boxes of VHSs That I used to watch So I took a picture Let's go through them, shall we? Nice, but if I may First while you upload that No, you may not Well, it's capital O It goes all the way Directed by Institute You know what? The Jungle Book VHS Is apparently Worth hundreds of dollars Like I saw between 500 and 2000 bucks For different versions of it The Jungle Book VHS We probably have one of those lying around our place Yeah, that's what was crazy I found one at my mom's Pokemon card mania And I knew That when I was like Seven or eight Some older member of my family Gave me a Pokemon card for Some Christmas Or one of the gift-giving holidays And I knew it was in Those professionally graded Plastics And I didn't give a fuck at the time He could shoot for some shit But I went back to get that card Turns out that shit's worth $1517 This old Pokemon card So I start looking through my other shit to be like What else might I have And I find the Jungle Book VHS And those other VHSs and I look it up And yeah, the Jungle Book's worth Between 500 and 2000 fucking dollars So Rags, what VHS is Did you watch as a kid? Alright, here we go, let's go through the list I'll particularly remember Ring of Brightwater It's about an otter or something Fuck that, I never watched it So we got Pinocchio It's the great pumpkin Charlie Brown Yeah He's a good one You guys remember Little Giants? No I remember the name Yes I do, yes I very much do That's right next to Flubber Ah, Flubber Sorry, the bug's still alive I gotta go kill it You failed to confirm the death of a bug Jesus Step on it to confirm the death We have Lion King 2 Simba's Pride I never really watched that myself That was my sister's I guess that's where my dad hit it Then we have How the Grinch Stole Christmas This was the fucking weird Tim No, the Hoops Yeah, the Jim Carrey one Oh my goodness One of my personal favourites The Princess and the Goblin Love me, that's from 91 Princess and the Goblin You can't say that word without being anti-Semitic That's what I've heard from The? You can't say Princess I really like that one It was some cultisms The Princess and the Goblin Then we have Bell Tales of Friendship Bell's Tales of Friendship I guess this was some VHS spin-off of Bell from Beauty and the Beast I don't remember anything about that one They were short stories I remember this from when my sister was born We have 101 Dalmatians Classic, good stuff Then we have another banger One of my favourites Cartoon I didn't give a shit about the live action one My infant brain was like Oh, those are just dogs One of my favourites is the Swan Princess Yeah, that's a good move That's some good shit right there Next up, Oliver & Company That was classic Then we have one that not a lot of people will be not nearly as familiar with Bartok the Magnificent Yeah, I think that was pretty cool Yeah, it's the Bat from Anastasia Yeah, the Bat from Anastasia Bartok, he got his own Direct to VHS Movie I'm very happy that that's the case Yeah, good for him Hey, Bright Blue in chat Do you actually speak Japanese or do you just like fucking translate it? So he literally said like some Konnichiwa, like super basic shit So I'm like, I don't know if this person actually speaks Japanese or not You know Harry Potter, right? I do, yeah You know the character You know the character Nearly Headless Nick Yeah He was a poorly executed character He was a poorly executed character I don't think so I mean, he's dead Oh, I get it Seems like they did their job I don't know, I feel like there's more to it than that Well, if they become a ghost How is that their fault? Well, no, no, no, I mean like they didn't carry me off It was very insistent Poor form What if that was the standard at the time and they gave them near Headless Would he not have achieved his goal very efficiently In a fantasy world of Harry Potter Maybe, I doubt it though I don't know But when it comes to VHS that was only half of the collection We have the rest over here on the other side and they had their own box We have more to explore We have Bambi How niche do they get? They're pretty They're a little niche I think about three of them are sort of niche I'll do the big ones We got Bambi Aladdin and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs As well as We have Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast So we got our main one Our big ones out of the way Now we'll get progressively a little more obscure here So I guess next up in that list would be Fantasia The original That's some good shit Zorsky And then after that we have What's next I would probably say Muppets from Space Remember Muppets from Space We're Gonzo Finds his family No, I don't remember that one But then he learns that his real family Muppets there with them on Earth all the time Yeah, I do remember this Yeah, Rizzo the Rat was his his riga Next up We have, which one of these is more obscure Alright, we're gonna go with this one A Troll in Central Park I know that one Yeah, Dom Delewis voiced the Troll with the green thumb And he wasn't like the other trolls, they kicked him out Yeah And then I think the most obscure of them all is Little Nemo Adventures in Slumberland Yeah, I don't know that one That shit is gold In fact, that's one of the movies that I want us to watch Mahler on one of their little movie Excursions that we do I want us to watch Little Nemo Adventures in Slumberland That movie Scared Me as a Kid That's pretty cool I'm gonna think about it If it's animated, you'll get like It isn't animated No, no, no, no. If you make an animated video about how that movie scared you you'll get like 45 million views Oh man, how does this seem? Yeah, good stuff That's probably super rare rags It might actually legit be really super It's a VHS of Little Nemo Google it Let me see One of the VHSs as I loved as a kid was the Has anyone here seen Pixar's Dinosaur? I have, yeah, Aladar was the main character I loved that movie Yeah I'm wondering if it holds up No, not the good dinosaur Just dinosaur These dinosaurs were morally ambiguous Did any of you guys get like the hand puppets from Dinosaur? I think I know what you're talking about but I never got any Yeah, I don't know if they had them at McDonald's or something They were like obnoxiously big, weren't they? Um, if it was if it was a McDonald's story that I'm thinking it is then absolutely fucking yes I can't, maybe I can't remember because as a tiny person my sense of scale was way out of whack so maybe they were just normal size but to my tiny I don't know, maybe, I'm not sure Did anyone else feel like um Is that the Bojack Horseman theme song? Someone said Little Nemo was friggin' scary when I was a kid Yeah, like the Nightmare Sequences in the Nightmare King That shit was like, ugh, as a kid That's spooky shit And the Black Goo, oh boy Prometheus? Prometheus? The Black Goo Little Nemo, yeah So what are you saying Prometheus ripped off Little Nemo? Can anyone in chat who's seen Dinosaur 2000 Dinosaur 2000 Can anyone who's seen that as an adult tell me if it holds up Confirm if it holds up And don't lie Is it internally consistent? Jay, there are like YouTube videos of people that are like you don't remember Dinosaur that go over that I do remember Dinosaur though Yeah, that's the thing, all these stupid fucking Gen Z YouTubers that are like, oh I'm so old now I'm 20 Are making these videos like you don't remember this movie and it's like, yeah I do I'm 21 and I am very old Hey Jay, listen up Dinosaur The initial idea for the film It originated during the filming of RoboCop Because that movie was directed by Paul Virhovan I just hope they get here soon Interesting I don't follow During the filming of RoboCop is when they had the idea to do a dinosaur, an animated dinosaur picture Right Yeah Yeah, that's it I think that's pretty sweet Is it true that Dolly was supposed to be the last Pixar film? That was the last one They said that was the last one they had in their initial set of ideas, right? Yeah, I remember that from the trailer It would have been a good place to end Although then we wouldn't have got Coco Coco is good I saw Coco I really enjoyed Coco And Inside Out is fucking fantastic I've heard mixed things about Inside Out Man, fuck mixed things Inside Out is a fucking banger Alright, if you like Inside Out and you would like to keep liking Inside Out, don't think about it too much That's my recommendation Is it thinking about up too much or Toy Story too much? No, it's not the same It's not the same Up you can think about any amount and it still works Yeah Well Unless you're thinking stuff like I don't think the dogs have the cognitive capacity We clearly do That's or all the people that think like, oh what is it like for the toys that are there all the time What about sex toys? It's a fair question I would absolutely 30 dollars per cracked article I would absolutely watch the sex toys version of Toy Story I'm sure it exists Well, they're probably fine with it because that's like your purpose I imagine What if one of them is like, oh but the first one is pretty ugly Oh what if one of the sex toys was gay Like it was a dildo on a woman bottom Damn What if there was a dildo designed for gay dudes but a straight couple buys it Oh are you saying that if you're made by gay people that you must be gay you're saying that being gay is genetic What? Did you say that the people who make dildos are gay? I'm talking about a dildo that's designed for gay use. I don't imagine I don't think they're specifically marketed as gay dildos I've certainly not seen one I think we're just like if it'll work for one it'll work for the other Yeah, I imagine Well there are certainly dildos that are designed for vaginas Vagildos You could definitely put one of those in your butt hole if you were so motivated I'm glad we have mine I mean all mine are I don't know if they're all of mine are designed for anuses but that's where they go I'm just remembering that reminded me of a great piece of art let me see if I can find it Hang on You're talking about they're not designed for the butt hole that's where they go I mean maybe they are designed for the butt hole I mean I think bad dragon knows its audience you know what I'm saying It reminded me of oh it's coming where is it I'm on the right thread let me find it fucking banger isn't it Wait, what the fuck where is it it's not here I'll be around I'll let you know when I have it Alright this is the second time in recent memory where you've stopped everyone else just something you were going to say but we're not ready for I just want to respond to someone asking me a question in chat I don't understand what the question is referencing you basically saying any mere recommendation site I'm asking for a friend but what could that be in reference to someone said to do dinosaur for ethat movies I don't know if it might work I would totally do that you're already biased in favor of it jay I'm sorry we were biased in favor of something else but that's fine nothing to worry about really no that's not my argument of course jay would approve of it he doesn't know that it'll work for ethat movies he's just hoping for that piece of shit admit it jay admit it jay hey did you know you can speed up the detonation of the grenades by pressing B after you throw them Jesus Christ I did not know that someone in chat say that I'm assuming you've stolen chat's insight without correcting them he did yeah I did no credit oof my dude um am I supposed to kill these things with this shitty torn torn knockoff because my god does it take some time I swear to god this art exists why is it not in any of the places I swear that it is tell senpai literature devil I hail satan I say hail satan and I'm making sacrifices for him today hail satan is that something that would cool with I think so yeah why not someone liked dinosaurs so much that they sent their first super chat just to talk about it that's a lie they've been sending super chats before wow I pay attention to the chat I don't know why they felt they could get over that maybe I'm watching you you used the same account no that's a dirty lie I don't know about that I don't know about that yes seribri I will notice you speak a different language but they won't fuck like and I don't fucking matter I'm just here this time why do you hate white people so much what how many languages do you speak D and why do you hate white people so much I don't want to sound like I'm bragging about you yeah I speak white it's not really a brag to hate white people most people do these days okay I don't hate white people I fucking love white people I mean the person I've met who spoke the most languages was seven can you beat that wait the person was seven are they six languages I doubt they spoke them fluently or they were probably like really really similar languages well no they moved several times in different countries in their life yeah I will admit I was about to say they spoke them fluently if they moved enough times as a child to learn seven languages Jay I believe your story I do too I believe it I just like I doubt that as an adult they would hold on to like a lot of them like super well maybe Jay I don't think you're a liar it sounds like you're trying to be the rain cloud over Jay's parade which is normally our job that would be a pride parade and I would never reign on a pride parade I would I would piss in common pride parade oh no I wouldn't come on a pride parade how else would you reign some of the fucking go home put some pants on yeah I don't wear pants like this or like this that was one of my favorite memes that was such a good meme are you sure languages someone said someone said are you sure that they didn't actually speak table languages what the fuck is a table language it's like a replacement for the seven oh that's that's annoyingly good you shouldn't explain jokes like that you should let them say the languages that's a joke oh I found the art you found the art I found the art I was talking about I found it by going to the video this and so let me just here it comes if this isn't great that's better be a fucking banger so somebody sent us this here it is it's my j-boe dominaggin alright it's not bad oh I guess I have to show people now that's what came to mind when you were saying I don't know if the dollar is a design for the butt but that's where they go that does anyone know what I'm referencing when I say it's my hole it's my hole that could apply to a lot of things that seems like a multi-purpose very specific thing you would know if it like it maybe if you said it's my hole where should I fuck you and I'm like oh you mean that comic oh that comic that's what you made me think of when you were talking about the holes it's my hole that comic was like that comic struck me the first time I read it very creepy it's creepy but like over-hyped and then like you read it because you hear about the reputation and so you're reading it oh yeah I guess I just read it because someone sent it to me so I liked it a lot I didn't get any of the hype I didn't hear any of that it is a good piece of media I just feel it's over-hyped damn metal commanders under-hyped deserves way more hype alright fine that's how you feel jeez what are the guests favorite top 5 top 10s of christmas can't answer the fucking question I feel like we would have stopped making that joke by now if he didn't get annoyed about it I feel like a lot of the jokes related to chase would stop very quickly if he didn't get pissed off so quickly but I don't think that's going to stop chat anytime soon or us not me I'm not allowed to make one mistake actually when we are 7 and a half hours in guys no mistakes left meme have someone say this in a little boy voice master more of the xmas carols are coming what are we going to do that's gotta be a british male toys what was the quote more of the xmas carols are coming what are we going to do more of the xmas car fuck the kid is just as fucking in front of adc you're referencing people named carol can you please sit in the chat no just do your best approximation then I can laugh at it oh senior carol master more of the xmas carols are coming what are we going to do activates lights I would kill the messenger and the carol apparently I don't know then again actually in that scenario the carol is going to be on my team which I'm cool with by the way wait are carolers coming or are carolers coming carolers are called carol and they're carols and they think carols I feel like carol is a corollary of carol oh do you now carol carol carol carol carol carol carol carol is sort of like can I ask the manager name and carol is the sort of my ex wife carol carol carol so I march my way down to carol in HR and I say carol reference I feel like carol carol says this is awful service I need to speak to someone carol says I'm taking your kids John John gets it so bad carolina John is a masochist are you sure he's not a sadist maybe by the way you guys were all in the most the only productive full of sadism is the other person who sounds to it that's the only productive full of sadism so there's a productive full of sadism then yeah so we didn't miss it at all I'm sure I pulled out when moller figured out that he didn't know what BDSM like stood for and he was like oh well wouldn't it apply in BDSM and someone was like that's what the S stands for that still counts as a point whether or not you know the what the acronym is for no I yeah you had a point it just sounds a little bit like well of course it does and it's like well you know you got to bring it up anyway because little extra credits is shaming BDSM enthusiasts which is not cool kind of fucked up kind of fucked up the D you will stand for bumbo dumbo say it or massive I think it makes the most sense that it would be those chat according to medium D gas gas gas got a step on the gas tonight got a ass blast I don't know I'm sorry is that like an inside inside ass a step on the gas could you imagine just like saying that to a comedian after they try like after they bring their ray material and you just look at them like is that an inside joke and they're like hey I don't want to be there for that that would be the ultimate heckle J oh my god when I have giant wars this game doesn't manage to maintain its FPS at least the emulator isn't just some guy mandalore gaming and watch over the garden wall it's somewhat like Bly Manor in terms of writing you massive oh that's a that's quite the claim that is very much the claim that is a that is a lofty yeah what is it mediocre you rang mediocre work garbage wrong we wrong yo it's not even scary though I would say it fails fundamentally because it's in the horror genre and it's not scary carol carol carol okay so am I wrong in thinking that over the garden kids movie with anthropomorphized animals that like need to get over a garden wall in a gated community that's over the hedge we're Bruce Willis voice Paul Giamatti and Bruce Willis voice animal voice alongside of William fucking Shatner someone recommends you guys should watch over the hedge writing is similar to Bly Manor that's what I was thinking so as well as Paul Giamatti Bruce Willis does the best Paul Giamatti impression while William Shatner do you said you were going to watch Bly Manor have you done that oh Jay are you are you asking people if they've seen things yes unacceptable Jay no I was just curious I was genuinely asking I was wondering if you had done it I wanted to no and I don't need to give a reason why there's no reason there's no reason I have no reason I just didn't there's no reason you know I could bring you through the fucking list of media I was raised on racks and you wouldn't have seen any of it we've probably seen all of it oh everyone I want everyone to go cause it's stuck ever since you started saying Carol so there's a I used to work at a restaurant and one of the songs that would play was a song named Carolina by Sue Jorge I guess his name is Jorge Mario de Silva Brazilian guy reference to what just like knowing of I mean I'm referencing him by giving his name sure I guess sort of yeah it's really obscure I suppose I don't know anything else by him I don't know anything else of him he's got this one song called Carolina and I really really love it and it was just it's good and everyone should listen to it so that's all I have to say I feel like I talking into it and I'm a little Anakin on a little beastie thing I can fire really simple lasers they're not very good I can throw some grenades and they do a lot of damage I think that makes sense I'm limited on grenades every once in a while the game just gives me this pulse wave that instantly wipes out anything just something I have it's a fuck I feel like pulse wave it's kinda different from my other weapons you know what amulet are you playing Dolphin and it's struggling to stay alive at this point in the game what system's gonna amulet GameCube and Wii I think Hey J why have you not invited these guys on top I will I will that's what Hitliss said yeah that's the one Sue Jorge I assume it's Jorge I've never and I assume it's Sue as well I don't know how they're actually pronounced is it Yorgie or why would you not tell you're already saying you're right town hey Yorgie he never wears a frown hey Yorgie he's coming can't you see cause all of Russia is Yorgie's family all of Russia talking about fucking deep ass references if you know that then fucking bravo to you Yorgie someone says oh the person from before that says hell vice in Portuguese says J isn't pronounced the same in Spanish as in Portuguese alright too bad that's like someone saying you're wrong that does sound like someone saying you're wrong yeah I've only seen it in text so I have no idea how to pronounce it is it Yorgie also like it just kind of shows Spanish has a way bigger influence than Portuguese cause nobody knows how it's pronounced but people know how Spanish is pronounced yeah there you go do you hear that people know more about Spanish than Portuguese well yeah what happens in Portugal this is like a running thing in that household and besides when people think about Portuguese they don't even think about Portugal they think about Brazil yup and the only thing I have in Brazil is fucking murder and Max Payne I'm tired I'm gonna go to my bed sleep wheel big fucking sleeps hey don't be a fucking bitch and remember tomorrow we have to do ah at 1 o'clock my time which is 6pm your time what you forget them all the fucking time it's your reputation that you fap and ah Brad this song isn't bop man ah some of those songs ah there are some fucking bops I'll see ya tomorrow bye jay sleep wheel bye jay hope you have fun then whenever he comes back he comes back and then he leaves again it's like a revolving door hmm you in and out I'll probably be in one of the good ships oh shit I didn't really realize these dudes were here well time to wipe them out with one wave why is that something I can do it's insane I just I just don't get it yeah as for mandalow gaming just some guy we will try in future of course so movie Bob is a commie I'm sure you I think it's hot to really label movie Bob efficiently you know he is uniquely bizarre like he's too unique in his bizarre opinions things to fit in any one category he's a movie ball I'm a couple beers deep so not accountable for anything I say at this point I don't think that's how that works but alright okay I'm a minority for anything I say or anything I do I don't know I don't know if saying don't worry officer I'm a minority is gonna help you but otherwise are you arresting me for drinking I'll have you know I'll have you fired for hate speech Mando isn't all that different the broad problems are still there I haven't thought about it too hard so I can't say if it's better or worse though is that in relation to the sequels or season two to season one I don't know apparently movie Bob is Naz bowl gang so a narco Nazi bullshit all right reminder that even the Joker is scared of the IRS oh yeah it's scary oh Jesus Christ the massively hungry rage a pillow by tonal bloke I was like a scary story but I watch it hold on a second someone said not Nazism and communism are not very dissimilar specifically because they're both branches of socialism if you think that you don't know fucking anything that's it okay okay red tuning into toast is greater than caterpillar tuning into butterfly yeah what the fuck is up with that I put bread in the toaster I pushed the button I wait a while boom toast pops up where the fuck why isn't the government investigating that oh I found 10,000 breads in this USB over here oh I don't understand how you can find a bread in a USB but apparently that's been happening it's the technology man it's amazing I'll blow your mind I was stuck at the hole like they found one but apparently found what do you say 10,000 second thousand breads and that's like I don't that's me that's many loafs it's a super loaf you might even say fucking paper loaf I need more weapons here game my weapons of shit can I know you guys don't like to talk about like political topics right I'm not that I'm not even gonna address it but a lot of people are saying so I assume everyone in chat hates each other in terms of politics already they just don't know it's politics just that they're being wrong about something historically yeah someone for me to come on with who was it and said have a great time bring Chase face on our I will I said our message him come to me in spider verse if spider Gwen got blown literally into last week how come she didn't track down the current Spider-Man for help when she when he was still alive I know a spider-sense told to go to school but still I don't have the answer that question because I need to watch the film again anyone wants to field it they're welcome to spider Gwen spider Gwen that's all we've got send it to Southport on Twitter he's been talking a lot about that movie recently so a lot is real sticky kiss a spider-man when he is wiki hey there here comes the spider Gwen he's got boobs that's okay that's okay and a nose whoa whoa she's under eight underage that's all right oh there here comes the spider Gwen who's the guy between rags and mollard no one there's no one between us nope no we're inseparable someone to come between us is ridiculous we're like we're like two protons in a neutron mm-hmm we're like two we're like does anyone else ever thought that movie Bob's New York New Jersey accent sounds on and fake or at least exaggerate it is can hold on I will help when he's doing like I I'll go to him I have a degree in linguistics you can't even tell if a guy in Chad is really speaking Japanese but the point is when you listen to a lot of job stuff like you can tell that like he's forgetting to put it on and then sometimes when he remembers he goes like really thick I want to avoid making anything definitive about accents are really complicated to the point where the funny thing is if someone said I was faking my Welsh because it barely comes on the idea of the truth is that it really comes through because I've lost loads of it so like I feel like I think movie Bob's the kind of person who like loses his breath from talking yes so knowing that what can about the accent really thick in the video no it was it certainly wasn't in that one but I know they're talking about definitely thicker in later videos yeah that's what I mean so I can believe he's faking it but I wouldn't want to be you know making that claim to I don't care I can make that I'll make that claim important not even in a way that I don't get in trouble or anything I'm making not making the claim in sense of the like I could believe it's just the fact that it's remnants of an accent yeah it could be that or he could be picking it up later in life maybe it's around more people with the accent is picking more of it up on spider-gwen spider-gwen she got captured by criminals again spider-man king really busy saving her it's a tizzy hey there here comes the spider-gwen wait is it really here comes the spider-gwen if she's getting saved spider-gwen spider-gwen she is um she's real smart she can count to ten school made good grades but it wouldn't stop her from getting hit by a car spider-gwen is a wedding agent spider-gwen spider-gwen favorite son of uncle Ben he got shot now he's dead she'll avenge him instead hey there I know that song yeah did you just like your old copyright you know yeah yeah don't I don't want someone claiming credit for that I don't even want to claim credit for that not even rags what's to not even me I want to distance to myself uncle Ben can't catch a break yeah he just keeps dying poor dude but we gotta feel well yeah I would be shit if we didn't see him die again yeah if we don't see Uncle Ben get fucking shot that it sucks I never saw Hitler get shot did you just call movie Bob a road roller fuck that that's like the wackest thing you can call someone well then yeah this guy's giving you a lot of money to ask me questions I rags have you been doing in non-stop nut November on that's the first question so I'm I think I'm closer to non-stop nut November than no nut November mm-hmm I have I've I'll failed horribly no nut November I think like a cell from post-challenge that I just I have no idea what I'm gonna get out of that yeah the the response to that is always why though yeah why like if at the end now if it was like man I don't even know because I probably could I probably I could go a month without jerking but it's easy it's quick ish you know it's all reliable yep it's a great way to pass the time it's fun you could do it with weird on your wrist like a cool watch it's co-op sometimes it's co-op sometimes and I said I enjoy yeah I mean we're talking about like that because I guess because if someone if I if I was with someone in there like hey rags let's fuck I'd be like no I don't want to fail no nut November it's any sort of nutting because I kind of got the just recently that it's been aimed mainly at masturbating only but it might just be people that's just I feel like no nut November yeah I think you're first to all nut in general yeah that's what I thought that seemed to only reference it in in terms of masturbation a lot because people with like fuck buddies people who are around to fuck they don't give a shit about no nut November they don't have to worry about that I've never I've never cared about no nut November the hell with that to prove you have self-control why I have self-control all the time in other aspects of my life why why should I prove to myself that I could go a month without whacking it anything every other day now could do it to prove self-control is like why yeah it's like don't play video games ever again to prove you as huge growing mustaches to raise awareness for prostate cancer or some shit and then it just turned into people not shaving in general and somewhere along line to turn into let's not fucking nut it seems like a bit of a jump doesn't it yeah I don't know how it happened because I don't I don't see any intermediary stages it's not half nut I mean November fair you can certainly have no I will account to that attest to that fuck what do you mean you have your like all like edge yeah that seems like that just didn't but that's not ejaculated yeah exactly because you have like a pre-seminable fluid that comes out that's not ejaculation that's not nothing no but edging edging is not ejaculating depends on how far you take it because well if you get to the point of ejaculation that's the fail state that's a fail state doing it wrong the whole time it's just no dude you're just jerking off because like you could I guess you could just like you know go at it for a little bit that as long as you're not nothing I guess so well okay so is not to experience orgasm or is it to nothing is I don't think that I could if I'm orgasming without releasing semen then I'm I'm fucking coughing up dust I've been fucking so much it's nothing left for me to give and I'm probably my cock is going please let me breathe I'm dying down here needs to regenerate it's true so anyway on an unrelated topic watch has been hotel hell of a boss and incognito cube on YouTube and hello long boy no so many things to destroy feels bad I wonder if all this stuff deserves it just got here started from beginning and here more talking about how far right he is if not sarcasm here's my super chat to say LFG looking for group fucking go looking looking for group is all that means yeah LFG means looking for group can it also mean let's fucking go I guess it could because the letters match but I've only seen it used for looking for group do you think that's what this person is saying looking for group maybe they want to start a group of far right people together in EFAP will become the birthplace of a new far right terrorist organization frame a partisan and then we have to put right on this difference will be that ours actually exists and does stuff shit oh man defend the downed Republic assault ship I have to didn't even give me a choice what if I don't want to defend it movie Bob is an instance of SCP 1788 which one's up I guess I can't be googling SCPs right now so what was it 1738 1888 I'm thinking of Fetty walk yeah it's literally just a fat guy well it's super fat guy oh I'm sorry no it's a process or treatment or other means of biological transformation a prepubescent human being subjected to SCP 1788 becomes an instance of SCP 17881 but it just shows a bunch of like super fat guys that are bald Bob it's Bob I can see how they connected the pieces road chip came out the same week as Force Awakens which is worse Force Awakens road chip or the force of the Force Awakens I'm not up on the chipmunk lore or the Alvin cinematic universe I'm sure it's pretty good you know yeah I sure that it can't be that complicated okay so SCP 17881 people that have been subjected to the biological transformation that is SCP 17881 when they reach adulthood they display predatory behavior towards prepubescent humans and typically settle in large urban areas find a form of white-collar employment and then begin tracking prepubescence in the area so isn't SCP for that okay SCP to explain how to feel there's a lot of really interesting SCPs a lot of them are good most of them are some of them are fucking great yeah I think 1968 is my favorite what what does that see please time for when you're when your character's face doesn't load in all the way yet that's what it is you know what's what's that from you see installed it because I'm like fuck it hello molar and rags you know hi been a been a fan since the rhino milking the first time when watching TLG for the first time when did you realize the movie was bad while watching which scene or after reading discussions online thank you so mine I've told people this before but I was very middle when the film finished I was like hmm you can often that one for tier I pulled him into a conversation I was like you guys seen this movie and metal was like yeah it was okay and what he was like yeah I loved it and I was like hmm so what did you think about and then we started talking about it I think after an hour I was like this is fucking terrible I hate this film it's one of those things we just have to get it out in the open then your feelings become clear what about you rakes sorry I was looking for at something what's that oh when did you realize TLG was bad was it while watching it was it afterwards it was afterwards I walked out of the theater confused mm-hmm yeah it was after like discussions and just sitting and thinking about it you remember what when it was or it was honestly don't remember exactly when I just know I walked out of that theater and I was like something ain't right that was just like I wasn't looking at yeah I was chat I was making sure that 1968 was the SCP I was referring to what is it is there an SCP 1738 and is it Fetty what it's just it's Fetty what it's or an SCP 1776 and it's like you're due to the American flag fucking Patriot how there is your character secure contained protect our rights oh yeah our liberty why do I have to destroy everything in this area come on Anakin if you hear a bronze Taurus TOR us should they be called eat icts instead of edicts for movie Bob I get it I get it it's fat he's fat yeah fat people eat a lot of food nice your molar knowing you love flash kits I gotta recommend their podcast with meat cannon the cream crew podcast it's raunchy and hilarious the cream crew it sounds like it would be yeah maybe maybe they'll they'll visit EFAP someday and vice versa who knows but meat no sorry meat Canyon do I see me cannon either way good name confirmed rags has terrible taste in women really I guess cuz I'm upset about Shava Shava what yeah I don't follow that I'm confused I think you have good taste right yeah that one's that one's an odd one to me shava come on how could you how could you not fall in love with her after hearing that so much shava come on come on Chris Chris shava you get so upset whenever she dies I got upset when she dies cuz that's what I'm playing as 10 out of 10 would colonize her uterus here at EFAP we believe that our fans of chumps and should not be allowed to have friends my name is Mola and I approve this message I don't remember saying that but I must have just now can't take it back yeah we as public figures are not allowed to change or grow in opinion sometimes you have the right of an average way you the guy you see he's pretty nice I wasn't know I was talking about opinions in general because we went there there are real people who really farm rhinos because we went there well yeah there are reasons to farm rhinos that aren't the reasons Jay gave like you could have followed their endangered like a high-risk high-reward petting zoo wait how does it rain in Wakanda with the shield I'm assuming it's programs that it lets rain in maybe it's never rains it collects the rain and sends it directly at the places needed it's like a reverse of all summer in a day maybe rain doesn't happen in the MCU you know think about that yeah yeah I don't remember rain ever happening in the MCU name one time there's been rain that couldn't be explained by a simulation of rain done by aliens yeah I figured out rain on their own yeah no no no brown no no no no no no no no no no Darth not so creamy fader I have a whole video on that topic you can go watch it if you want to know that answer stupid cannons so end game or infinity infinity well which one's better in infinity war which one would you rather watch infinity war okay shame because I would which is where I'd say the highs like in terms of peaks of in-game or better but the lows are way lower what do you mean by the lows I mean like the worst it gets is way worse than infinity war but I think that the best it gets emotionally at least for me are better than infinity so but you're not talking about like emotional lows sad parts of end game are way like sadder you're just saying like the parts that make it bad are much are very very bad yeah the parts that make it better really really bad but like the good stuff that I like are the really good character stuff like Tony Stark stuff love that that's great I love the well yeah is it a I'm do I have the unpopular opinion about the Tony Stark I'm just surprised you guys are like known to be very what you cut out cut out the most important word you guys are known to be very opinionated so I'm surprised with our emotions well I'm surprised that like it's such a popular opinion you agree with it well if it's correct I will all right third point yeah the Tony Stark stuff is done really well like him and is like I I haven't been like Mahler the stuff with him and his dad does that hold up I haven't really thought about it much to rewatch end game specifically but I'm pretty sure the interactions with his dad are really good the reason he's able to do so is retarded yeah yeah the whole time travel thing is fucking shit and his dad know that I think it's fucking great I was fucking but it didn't game made me ball like a fucking baby I was super hype when I saw end game it was like release night was it like that for you guys like in the movies that you said yeah well I mean like I really like the character stuff but like the story and the time travel stuff was just off my attitude going in like the theater that you physically saw it in for the first time came out were people like super duper hype and like having very very loud reactions I think my well relatively yes but British cinema is a pretty quiet most usually around where I am they are too typically like around here people don't clap when the plane lands you know well I mean the only like I okay so I knew about that meme and the next plane I was on was a plane from Europe to America and people clapped on that plane and I didn't know if it was your games are American so so much the audience and your thoughts walking in yeah so I was I was pretty high for it but I was very worried because I figured that we were ready in trouble from the trailer where I meant being saved by someone I was like the only way they can fix that is if it's full if they make a captain Marvel and we suck because if it's Thor that means that the information about where everyone is in Titan would have been provided by information from like maybe rocket has a lock-in on with the Benatar is or whatever the name of the ship was I can't remember exactly a pat Benatar yes named after singers both of them but so if he if they tell Thor about that and then they have a signal and then Thor rescues him I think that's a really meaningful thing to have Iron Man rescued by Thor to do Captain Marvel rescue him sucks because she's only in the story by like complete Deus Ex bullshit just been like his story is stapled onto the MC it's frustrating to say the least and so knowing that going in I was like oh god what else are they gonna do and then I watched the film and I was like there was some stuff I really like not let some sort of save Iron Man but what they did before in that movie is kind of a travesty I would say there's a lot of issues with endgame we had a whole stream about it and we did it with ER someone who was very anti-MC I show one like actually talk to that guy like privately and just take his brain well you'll talk to him a lot he won't understand that Rex he has a very he's a quiet lad you know saves his comments for where you'd like to say that you're saying it talk a lot which they do well think of the combo there so anyway Jay critiquing that thatched roof is cringe he was defending them in EFAP 5 he's a coward who will agree with whatever prevailing opinion is so we just mentioned how people can change their minds and then you're not allowed with your odd light Jay I would say more so than a lot of people will absolutely go against the grain if he thinks it's the right position and I don't know why you would say this like it still happened in the EFAP systems like he changed his mind a lot of black panther I'm not even sure if he thinks black panthers any good anymore I don't know so he thought it was good definitely thought well that's how we met was I shout on it and he got he made a video on me no shit I didn't know that at all yeah and then we reacted to it and then he offered to come on or I offered him to come on one of those two things happened and then he came on and now he's like one of the most common people on EFAP I have a black panther I'm very proud of it sweet in the MCU everyone speaks English because English contoured English contoured the entire universe as it should be contoured we must have contoured the entire I'm okay with this when I say we of course we're referring to just earth and English of course would be the accepted best language not because it's the one I speak but because you know you know what I mean explain it which on earth also comes from aliens it comes from some other alien right because of course humans can make their own language they need aliens like doors doors yeah doors languages whole series of aliens are so bored with us they're like you can't do anything about our helpers like okay well you know we have monkey brains you're not a fucking rock figure the rest out why do I gotta destroy all these fucking does that mean the top of this new skyscraper fell off and they replaced it with thatch I think they just went with thatch and initially and they replaced it like once could week or so it involves each time travel is like the worst level like the worst time travel I don't know there's some pretty bad time travel out there I don't know rainbow Z time travel is make a new timeline it's not the end game one yeah it's it's the same thing so you were you saying that that doesn't work or no I'm I'm asking if you guys thought Dragon Ball Z time travel was like it all breaks the same as the end game one I think there are issues you can find but my main issue was more so with fucking retarded ass characters making the decisions that they do what in the comics like the stones from another universe don't work in anything beyond their original universe so if you're creating a parallel timeline which has different stones in it then they shouldn't work when you take them back to your timeline my small so to do with first that they have limited pin particles for no reason they could go and get more if they need them they did yeah but they don't initially they say they have a limit initially which is retarded as they don't and then secondly the choice to go to three different places to get all the stones they need instead of just going to where Thanos is put to sleep just go to that and then kill him and then take all those stones and all we got to do now is get visions isn't that it just I think I think that's a little bit of a just because I think those arguments where it's like oh well why didn't you just do this like simpler thing I really don't often think that that's a very good argument sometimes it is and I choose the characters are retarded yeah we're dealing with the most smartest people in the universe of the MCU it's like they went it's like they went out of their way to make things as difficult as they could for a movie yeah it's almost okay fighting Thanos again wouldn't be more difficult he's asleep he's asleep okay they know he wakes up they've got like a couple I am dude they know that Star Lord is the one he wakes up just fucking tackle him no if they kill him they need oh wait no no they need Thanos to still do the thing because Tony Stark won't give up his daughter so they need to alter history that's a different timeline then it wouldn't matter yeah oh yeah that's a good point did I just thought that also yeah you can interrupt me yeah it's it's like it's so it really is what I was are you clearly just want to they think they have this whole sequence where they're trying to plan when the best time is and it's like you know what the best time is why are you struggling with this yeah you've convinced me I would have a really cool scene if they went back to that moment and to tell Star Lord that he destroyed half the universe by making his mistake that would have been interesting character moments maybe maybe Peter and Thor could really because they're sort of button heads a little bit yeah I know if you would have had them like kind of bond over that in a way I'd have fucked up yeah I fucked up to what you do let's not talk about it yeah and game could have been a hell of a lot better you've you've absolutely convinced me on on that point I'm like really just like yeah I'm fully on board that doesn't happen a lot you've done something here well I guess we should be getting better at it at this point we're doing it for ages right ranks expect that you change people's minds a lot like I know that you've expressed himself but do you think you convince a lot of people I I mean we do get a lot of messages that relate to that sort of thing so I would assume I think so that's cool what's that like weirdos in chat keeps saying that they keep turning up I mean yeah but don't worry their time their time's coming well I'd be on the right side of if a bar I think there's a difference between like someone that doesn't have like a hardcore opinion about something you sort of guiding their opinion and someone that does and you're changing their mind when they were pretty set on an alternate opinion well but that's a week have we changed your mind from one dramatic position to a completely different one ever share your thoughts now on e-fap.com there is no e-fap.com but it might be something very different if I've been destroying the wrong thing this whole time am I retarded game what am I supposed to do here protect the Republic ground forces okay I'm doing the right thing I guess everyone's saying yes or no I'm looking for the examples here e-fap.com is that black panther black panther you said you change is my not black panther that's pretty cool I'm not questioning if you did it I'm like you've answered my question yes I think that's really cool yeah I'm curious myself to see what things seem to be commonly referenced they don't think homecoming is as bad as it anymore black panther Bojack oh yeah that was one too. Garth whatever guy that keeps sending super cats that's one of my favorite shows too yeah we are like that's a show that has watched any anime ever. Fringy delivered the hot take on Bojack as and he was someone who previously adored it my girlfriend's literally watching Bojack right now since we started dating a year ago to watch out of me for the first time right now it's a good fucking show I mean you guys don't like it that's fine I don't want to change your mind it's like I'm not actually doing that well I know that's just what you said the second time what you're asking why not yeah why not cuz I like don't on this specific thing I don't care to change someone's mind all right opinion on media not that big a deal to me I think people can have other opinions I think it's actually really healthy yeah I think different I'm sure I usually like this coldest fucking take I could possibly come up with like not that I'm saying you should in any way shape or form but it's usually the stuff I love or hate the most that I'm interested in hearing alternative perspectives on and trying to sort of wrestle in different ideas well so I've only ever heard like a shit ton of people talk about how much they love Bojack so I actually am very very interested to hear why you guys think it's bad go to which one is it if I think it's one of you gotta know so you need to know which episode before you know the time stamp yeah so I think it's one oh two it's it's not one oh one it's the first time we cover Patrick Willems I think right I mean after we lost covered any fucking hundred episodes ago but if you go to the top pinned comment should be time stamps and then just look for the one that says Bojack hot take I think and it'll have me and Fringy explaining all the problems we have with it or at least as best we can with the time we have cool I'm gonna bring about it you tomorrow oh no we know if that is straight wrong on knives out so I guess his ground to cover still there oh that's terrible I'm sorry it is like just from the trailer I felt like it was gonna be a forgettable movie so I don't have an opinion on the movie itself but off the trailer I was like no one's gonna remember this that's another one if you like knives out don't think about it too much yep and it's funny as well since it's like the whole movie like its purpose is to fucking make sense that's the whole fucking genre I can't do that whatsoever yeah but she's such a good news she mixes up medicines like I've said it on stream before like I asked my bubble about that she's ex-nurse and she was like I have never heard anybody ever say anything like that ever it's pretty categorical I'm being attacked by ghosts yeah that that whole morphine scene like everything is wrong well this is the thing if it was like that's like one part of the movie but that's fair it's not like we did a stream of critical drinker where we went over like fucking shit ton of structural issues in the film or anything and I would also just add that it's just one stone in the house or the building that is that movie but the morphine scene is the cornerstone sure it's sorry can I get your opinion on something go for it so like I said I five years over obiets if I I've considered like because there's a lot of scenes in media that I find where people do drugs and a lot of them are just super fucking wrong like mega wrong as like to Google that that drug doesn't do that and I wonder if like a series of like I don't have a great way to say this but like heroin addict reviews or ex-heroin addict reviews drug scenes or ex-drug addict reviews drug scenes do you think that'd be a palatable thing yeah I mean I think you could probably make it pretty endearing yeah you know if you just lay into the sort of absurdity of heroin addict reviews yeah you know it could be endearing I think I'd watch it I mean you and you know be responsible with it right in terms of what information you're willing to give out but well what do you mean well just so we'd break in bad when they were making it the cooking scenes they like you don't have to they pushed their everything to the limit in terms of what they could show of making math but they ought to be careful not to like give too much away so you don't actually encourage people to start trying in stuff that's fair yeah some people think that that show somehow despite like the constant showing of how deleterious drug use is over and over and over some people think that encourages drug use it's like how the fuck could you possibly think that that's a good question hmm I think it's all Karen's I don't know well I think I think there's space for that on YouTube I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before so cool I might do it but probably it's like Baud's I'm I'm never editing again I fucking hate it takes so much time and I get like no views super not worth it streaming is way better editing is tedious I enjoy it but I'm not like at a point in my life where okay I have a hundred free hours that I can dedicate to this every two weeks for no money I'm not a point in my life where I can do that even if I knew like okay but in six months like if this will make you enough money for it to be worth it's like nah I don't fucking care well just do what I do and just work really slowly I just mean that like if you're not making money from it yet just you know do it else you got to do and then in what spare time you have keep working on it yeah I mean look the the hundred dollars I get every four months from residual views just awesome great sure whatever but yeah it's really not like worth the amount of effort I put into editing if it was like cuz some people can bang out video in like an afternoon but that's not like the highest quality videos or that it's it's usually the people that like blew up really quickly and have sort of a systematic thing and then realize okay I'm gonna make this a job but that means I need to make content every week so I have to go lowest common denominator and just like make bullshit that I can write a script on the day and edit in the day there's so many channels like that it's sad really I like video editing video editing is on sort of magic yeah this is I get a satisfaction from video editing I like it too it's it's the it's the payoff of the activity that makes it not worth but I think I've subscribed because I do do YouTube for a living I have a top 10 channel that I run so like knowing the money that I make from that it's like it's super not worth it to put in the effort to do a YouTube video that's like for me I know it's different for all kinds of careers online right yeah no there's tons of people that do put in that time and are that about it and I do like video editing it's a really cool art and I have a shit ton of fun in premiere or non-premiere in After Effects but yeah it's it really sucks to like spend a hundred hours on something in like six sleepless nights in a row and then put it up and it gets like 800 views in a month it's the fucking worst mission is hard man I'm getting chased by ghosts I don't remember there being ghosts and stools that could do this then again this maybe the sequels kind of changes all that time also they can travel through walls bullshit I guess I guess traveling through walls is a ghost trait such a normal game I just don't like it okay rags there I said it I have a random question for rags huh I have a random question for you I was thinking about at some point getting a gun for self-defense home defense reasons what would you recommend is it gonna be a concealed carry a gun I probably wouldn't leave the house with it very often now just more for home defense purposes I have a glock 19 oh there there you go then you're done what's better glock 19 or a glock 19 they're not really no one's really better than the other depends what you're looking for one's just a little they're pretty much identical ones just as a slightly longer slide than the other or if I'm looking to shoot old people if you if you're looking to shoot people you probably want a longer slide so you get a little bit better accuracy at range hmm yes a word off criminals with a minigun my glock 34 should be here maybe tomorrow if not the next day what's the difference between a like glock 17 19 34 slide length primarily slide length there's some other little things depending on the generation the 34 has a small cut out of the top of the slide but that's just something it has adjustable rear sights and one of my one of the things I do not like about glocks even though I do enjoy them is that their sights can be a bitch to adjust but they the rear sights are adjustable on the glock 34 it's got a RMR type 2 a Trigicon really looking forward to using that what about Nerf guns right I don't know anything about Nerf guns which is weird because normally many people say it's nerf or nothing but I just don't actually I don't know anything about nerf guns honestly frags you are southern and I didn't hear it until you started talking about guns really like in my voice at all yeah it came out in your accent oh yeah my accent is an odd one so my my parents are not really southern people my father's from up north and my mom's from out west a bit at least her family is so I never really grew up with a particularly strong southern accent when I was waiting tables when I was a server in this restaurant people would often ask where I'm from I didn't think I was from around where I'm around join us when super retarded right I would love to hear something super retarded I tell people this and they don't believe me but believe me I was not believing it when I was being asked so when I worked in the toy store many people would ask where in America I'm from no way mm-hmm lots of them and I was like what exactly about the way I speak makes you think I'm American like this super rotisserie Asian such a how do I deal with stove piping I don't I don't have that issue my father had an M92 FS no it was just a bread at M9 and he had a stove piping issue but it went away after he shot it a while the slide just need to be worn a bit I guess it was just closing a little too quick or something I don't know but it eventually just went away which sometimes happens with guns you just gotta get a gun just work the slide smaller I will say though you do quite a few you're very good at American accents I enjoy your American accent because I can't name them like whenever I put an American accent on whatever it is it's almost like what what one is that I'd be like no clue oh just generic yeah I can like like hillbilly and then generic American probably you're just you're like sort of just right yes then there's like I know Boston is I know what accent that refers to but then there's a lot of ones where someone might be like oh you know this place and I'll be like yeah I have no idea what that supposed to sound like yeah American accents like in the UK you have so many fucking accents because people live in like small communities for so long that they develop different pronunciation but America just doesn't have like that length of history and we have a lot of accents in America we do we definitely do but like there are nowhere near as as UK accent nowhere near as what as various as UK accents and also I don't know about that at all what I I do there's a lot of accents in America there are but there's not like a huge amount of difference between a lot of them and people and ever since 19 I fuck it I don't remember like early in the 1900s media started being big TV movies GAE general American English sort of spread but if you're gonna talk about like AAVE American American vernacular English there is a ridiculous amount of those all right then my knowledge of accents isn't that good but I can impersonate a whole bunch of them I've heard but that's the only way I can explain my accent don't put on command do it because my mom and dad are both pretty well I was I think I was just watching too much shit when I was younger and kept trying to change my voice to match them and then my voice got lost in the wind that's what's happening in Australia and Ireland really yeah you have heard about this there's the the Americanization of accents in Ireland and Australia I didn't know that but is that because they just watched too much media with the American too much yeah yeah absolutely that is that is the general theory as why happy about this about America taking over as the dominant accent of the world yeah I'm very happy yeah or people should speak American murky yeah the reason of like the impressioning shit on like the delve and whatever else it's just because of the way they speak a lot of the video asses and a lot of them I think it comes I don't know who the first one was could have been everything like in terms of infecting everyone with this fucking way of speaking which you might be able to talk more on once I sort of make it clear but nerd style trick is one of the old does it nerd writer does it where the first step is to become a little bit weak you want to come across as not as confident as you were just seconds ago at the end of the video you got a really crank the tier factor like like what you just discovered is worse than a family member dying like the random pauses fucking drives me nuts they randomly emphasize words that you like why did you do that and then I mean fuck yeah Jamie would know about this who made the MPC really so many fucking comments huh I've had so many people comment like with your name and talking about like oh this is what Mahler talks about I never fit I get it now oh like you've talked about this I assume then no I haven't I get common no I've never talked about it well no it's kind of funny I got a comment on the first NPC reviews it was like oh my god you even nailed that video assays voice and I'm like oh no that's just my voice I didn't really change it very much I guess I'm a bit sarcastic and the more deadpan but it's just my voice I'm not good yeah I was thinking about that and I was like you may have picked up some of the like mannerisms or whatever when you did that video but what I was just talking about like I hate it so much and I don't even know that the people doing it realize they're doing it yeah like it's just the video assay voice it's how you speak and she's like it shouldn't be that just yeah you speak was it like a closer look or a bit closer look on his is fucking hell it's next level it's not the same kind of video assay you told us that he was like people prefer it it's like really though I I mean does he have like a sample to draw from fuck I've kind of what's the one time and it what he wanted them to say so that became the dominant well yeah cuz I guess his oldest stuff he doesn't talk like that and then he just started to emphasize it more and more and more until he's that's just the voice now so do you want to hear where I I think that comes from because I do have like a theory on this go for it so the first person that I know of that quoted the term that point the term video essay is the nerd writer one that doesn't mean that people weren't making videos of that style yeah he's one of the other ones for sure yeah but he coined the term like I can't find because I looked into this I wanted to make a video about it it's like no it's too meta that was that's the earliest I could find of anyone calling it video essays but earlier people that don't quite do the voice like every frame of painting like that guy just sort of talk about miss I said both those names just now yeah you did writer one acquainted 2011 so I don't know if everything painting is before that I was just saying that every time painting doesn't quite do that voice no sort of talk normally every from this is a problem every from painting like he's great it's just that encouraged a whole bunch of shitty copycats yes kind of like every frame of pause I I don't know the I don't know who all the copycats are of what we do whether or not they're shit I'm afraid I don't watch them oh no I was making a joke that every frame of painting every frame on all oh yeah but it doubles up as an actual comment without you even realizing nice I I think CGP gray invented the essay I'll just say it CGP gray invented the what the video essay I think he invented the concept I feel like he would have been outdated by at least some people well so John Green of the vlog brothers made a video that some that you could probably call an early video essay and he said what sorry I got I got a head out for a moment I gotta drop something off and I'll be back in a minute no problem but yeah John Green made a video essay type video very early on in YouTube and he called it a CGP gray type video so I think of that sort of video which like so I do you know who Wendover productions is no so he's a education channel is like one of the bigger ones with like millions of subscribers that every week makes a video about some like useless topic that has to do with like logistics or just some or boarders or something one of those and he's inspired shit but I met him at VidCon and he has a skill share class called how to make a video essay and I was interested in this topic and I was like hey so CGP gray first video essayist what do you think about this guy who has the skill share class on how to make a video essay that oh I'm not a video essayist I'm an education channel like that's the same thing it's a variant thereof well you couldn't I mean to agree say that a lot of different broad genres well that I'm not saying I disagree with what you just said I'm saying that some people don't define it the same way I suppose so for example if someone said a you a video essayist I'd be like I guess so I'd you do you write your scripts yeah then you're and you make a visual performance your video essays also I mean like or a reviewer yeah that's that so if someone said no I'm a reviewer you could be like yeah but you qualify as a video essayist they'd be like okay you know everyone chooses their own labels right yeah actually considering that they don't want to be associated with certain people or groups or genres whatever I guess yeah I mean I guess I think that's like the people that are like I wanted liking Rick and Morty because the fan base is cringe it's like yeah well in the same way if someone's like what's my like coiling away from video essays I think I'm just like oh cuz so many of them are so shit but I like I don't even want to be in that group but I guess if I am I am why not be one of the good ones and set the example I suppose well I mean fucking I'm considered terrible by majority of video essays so that's you know that's a POV thing I suppose I think if I were going to describe you to someone I would probably like who had who was not in this world at all I probably say YouTube reviewer or something like that yeah yeah like video essays wouldn't be the first thing like like nerd writer one is who I think of you know the person who makes those very video essay videos yeah but thanks for watching guys you would be so fucking surprised how many people ask me like what does that mean what is a video essay it's in the motherfucking name you're an idiot I mean I would just go for saying it is it's broad as fuck and involves a shit ton of channels by definition alone yeah but if someone just literally doesn't watch YouTube and doesn't know about like that nuance like if you say video essay like it's very very clear what that means like I said I think it's it's fair and a shit ton of people really do qualify for that label without even realizing it I agree with you and I think that not everyone gives themselves the definition but I see it as a very broad umbrella term also I'm gonna put it out there don't know if I'll get pushed back for this but putting video essay in the title after like a dash or line I think it's cringe that was my first video because I thought it was like we're supposed to do it and then I was like oh this doesn't do anything in the algorithm are I mean but like I think it's fine to do it if you think it's for the algorithm I think it's cringe what it's like I'm trying to say my video is special it's a video I just like oh okay I would think that people are doing it for the algorithm but if people are doing it for that yeah super good like hello today we're going to talk about build up a case and get before and get into today's video need to let you know I'm talking about skill show they made this video possible because you know I wouldn't have made it without this specific sponsor doing this which kind of makes this worse in a way I saw these two videos and I kind of wish they were same they were the same video for you know the irony purposes but one video it was someone talking about how like there's no objectivity and like that's sort of the whole point of the video right like there are no objective standards and then some a video I watched just after was someone was like learn how to like improve your craft as a storyteller through skill share I just love the idea of someone making a video essay about how there are no standards and then plugging skill share you want to get better at this thing do this by the way there is no such thing as being better with no way exactly that's amazing all right guys it is about to be midnight where I'm at so I'm gonna I'm gonna hop out this I I don't you kind of most important word again you said this is really really something this has been great this is really fun I enjoy this I don't know if I qualify to come back again between the opinion of you guys and the opinion of the audience but I do I would absolutely love to and I'd love to have you guys on ah and my own stream if you ever want to come because like I said I just started that so it's been fun thanks for thanks for coming and maybe I'll see you on awesome day who knows I hope so can I plug real quick absolutely go right ahead cool I chat I have a stream that I just started doing it on Twitch but I think I'm gonna switch to YouTube since I already have a little bit of an audience here so if you just subscribe to my channel I will post when I'm in a stream so yeah that's that's it super simple plug all right thank you guys do otherwise how's that a plug at all oh I'm just talking shit I'm just talking about things I want to tell them what you tempt them in you know tell them something that they want to go find tell them what you did so it's just it's just me I like I want to be as transparent as possible I'm the product it's just me sharing my ideas talking about any topic that I'm interested in sometimes maybe I'll watch I'll watch YouTube videos and react to them in time I will invite people on to discuss topics I'll invite people on just to talk shit and yeah I mean it's it's sort of just a general stream that I'm starting uh yeah leaves me and you got a super chat the last one says I understand that your attention is divided but the mission keeps failing because you are not picking out the mortar tank on the ridge those things melt the acclimate I'll be completely honest with you I don't even know what my mission is I'm just sort of shooting and driving I've I've got a little invested in the conversation we just had there and I've just you could have asked me like how many times have you lost now and I'd be like 70 I don't know I'm having fun chat okay you get to watch these fun colors that things explode while we get through the super chats and have a chat is that so wrong he's just shooting the shit you know that's the way it's supposed to be it's good that the health and ammo regenerate for me because fuck I'd be screwed all right destroy the mortar tanks it is very clear that that is my purpose I'm going to go do it the chat they're on the ridge according to chat it's more than one ridge well it's on the ridge the round not that is the why isn't it the why isn't there a helpful little guide as to where exactly I'm supposed to go that's the way it's supposed to be usually an arrow on time wow this game must be poorly designed if I can't win it it's the only explanation you're a game journalist congratulations I did it have you watched the Cornetto trilogy absolutely it's fucking great everyone should go see it yee it was great it was the world's end go go go I didn't know it was called the Cornetto trilogy for a long time and I didn't understand why it was called that but then I figured it out as a Brit I knew from the get go it was my job today I'm sure you did how can there be another tank I haven't destroyed this one yet that is so fucked up oh is this the one I'm supposed to kill oh my god I'm gonna get melted there's so many enemies oh well um also check out frequently asked questions about time travel its villain has a very interesting motive I don't know why they asked that as a question but uh all right we all right ridge one destroyed does that mean I win now oh great there's more motor tanks fucking lied to me um j critiquing the oh wait yeah I read that one wasn't here for 110 can I hear your thoughts on speck ops the line versus the last of us two and how the last of us two failed to do what speck ops did make us feel like trash um I found me when I answered this last it could have been the last evening but uh I need to play speck ops the line again to be able to comment on that in a confident way but um I remember it working far more effectively than the last of us two did but it's a bit of a complex one because I know a lot of people like to compare those games I'm not sure if they're kind of doing different things I know the goal is like through player action you try and engage someone in a level of guilt and as we brought up the problem with what was it the donkey said fucking like just because you didn't choose the decision doesn't mean you can't feel guilt over it was really strange if you say that really well yeah because um the note so we we were trying to pause it that like well I think he was responding to this was like there's no guilt for what's happening in the last of us two in relation to um a lot of events that we have no choice over for example killing the dog like if you don't press the button you just fucking lose the game so it's like okay then I guess I have to press the button if I want to see what happens next and so the idea that you're supposed to feel some level of guilt for it like I consider that bullshit um and then he said as a counter well as a character who dies in a story like in a cutscene and you didn't have anything to do with it then you can still feel bad about that or something it's like the stupidest fucking counter I saw loads of people getting mad at that um after the stream we were just talking about his relation to um red dead um so yeah I would just need to play the game again and uh compare them I suppose yeah you can feel bad that something happened but feeling guilty is a very specific thing and I can't really feel any guilt if it's not something I did or had any hand in doing there's no agency what is there to feel guilty about it's just like well I guess I feel bad that they decided to have the sad thing happen because even if you empathize with the character like in a movie where you don't have any agency in what it's but you really empathize with the character you don't feel guilty if they do something bad like that's very specific like you said the burning house in the little hope sure had all kinds of choice yeah all the choices you bake in that opening have no like everyone dies regardless I think once you know stuff like that you just get pissed off though I suppose I don't even know if that's better or worse than the whole like uh if you have choice A and choice B and they both seem viable and one will lead to the life of your characters and one will lead to the death of them can you still feel guilty for that it's like I don't even know like how I could possibly have done anything better if I'm just choosing between two things that seem really good I don't know the game is like you chose wrong okay it's a it's a weird thing it's a whole big old topic and it's not even close to all summarizing all the problems with the last was to back up the line is better than last was to I pretty confidently would agree with that um RE4 shooting spaniards good RE5 black zombie bad yeah nobody cares about spaniards you see that's what we discovered hi jamie kick rags and shum yum rags sorry kick jay and shum yum rags there we go yeah I think all that's true one degree or another also hi hello hello worse than racism taxation because it's theft hi rogues no it was just a different flavor of racism that was the truth what a lame twist I know right we were all expecting a way better end what could be worse than racism out of this racism lame lame system that's what that was uh could be wrong on this but in hunt for red october I believe that whenever a soviet character speaks English they are actually speaking Russian and the film is translating almost as if the audience is using a universal translator could this be like to pant black panther um isn't it in hunt for red october they speak Russian until a scene where they very deliberately switch from Russian to not Russian yeah like to signal to the audience that we're not doing Russian for the whole movie okay okay but we're supposed to take the implication that they are speaking that the whole time I don't think they do that for black panther I've returned hello rags how are you hi there I'm all right you missed a high rags and high rogues oh hello to the both of you hello hello we're taking heavy fire need assistance today is my 111th efap aw that's from bilbo himself uh greeting shammers and love to catch capital opinions their annihilation video is great made me read the book which I liked a lot too yeah the book is way better why'd you keep going after alex garland what's wrong with you uh because he baffles me and I'm still really disappointed in him after x mocking up because I like that movie I liked it too and rags did I'm scared to rewatch that I don't know if you're aware of this smaller somewhere tell you so in an interview alex garland when talking about adapting annihilation which is a book he didn't he said quite openly that he didn't go back and reread the book he said I didn't go back and take notes and write stuff down I just did an adaptation based on my memory of having read it okay and what that means in the end is that he forgot all the things that have the plot makes sense and kept all the weird creepy visuals so if your goal not something might admit out loud yeah if your goal is to adapt faithfully and you decide that you'll go for bevery uh well he didn't give a shit about adapting faithfully but conveniently he forgot everything that makes the plot makes sense damn did he um you know x mocking is that original x mocking that is original yeah I mean it's not the first story about a throwing test but it's not yeah yeah you made devs you did make that oh that's a shit rags this guy right here and this call this guy he's got a series on how bad that is oh really fucking hell man devs was horseshit yes you know after you saw the first episode we were already questioning why they killed um I was baffled because we were we were like yeah feels weird man like whatever they end up explaining us is the story I feel like this isn't going to make sense and it didn't yeah sure enough yeah yeah it's bad no one watched devs dev this fucking horrible yeah just watched my review instead you don't need to have seen the show there you go good times you might even get just as annoyed as me and rags were yeah probably you know it's pretty dumb it might be my number one example of a plot that advances through characters incredible stupidity yes yeah it's a it's a very good example of that I mean that's why I wanted to review it you watched devs I was just like there's just so much remarkably bad about this and it's a good learning experience to examine just how awful it is to be honest with you as well I think I was arguably kind to it in the first couple of episodes because I just expected better from him I was kind of like yeah I'll be this bad like surely they'll have answers for all these things right right right no I'm fucking tired of my retarded convoy going too far ahead and getting itself shot to pieces like if you just chill for five seconds dude I can kill all the things we got a great big convoy and she'll be like no we gotta keep going what else we gotta do who a bob cease and desist by the emperor's golden throne my mind see that one more time who a bob cease and desist by the emperor's golden throne my mind does that make sense to you no it doesn't I recognize some of the words in there but it's like the order that yeah I was gonna say that I kind of recognize some of the ways too bonus objective complete oh I guess that's why it's hard to do because it's a bonus objective not a main one okay like like hard to do it in the sense that your fucking dude will kill himself and that's what we call difficulty in these parts what do we call shaman? I'll show a bit of shaman right there hi mola hi rags hello hello this is my first super chat question oh wow do you save the e-faps on your pc if so how do you deal with all the space I'm asking because you inspire me to make my own videos I've got them all backed up and this is why I take care when I build my PCs to have the capacity to store a ridiculous amount of data because thing is right in the middle of one of my videos I could be like oh you know what I want to reference here this movie that I don't probably don't have but now my archive is so enormous that I probably will have it and in HD and that's taken a lot of space then that's starting to take up some space the movies that I save and yeah video files like that so my next rig which I'm hoping to do in about a year's time I'm probably going to get I might get a silver uh something significantly larger the minority significantly large amount of hard drives because holy shit as time goes on and uh more e-faps happen and more of everything happens I'm gonna need more space high glib points out very important fact that you better have a backup of your backup because hard drives fail yeah and then back up that and that and that then you'll be right maybe one more movie bob is still trying to relate to young girls no wonder he likes cuties it's not a good look that he likes cuties and that video exists um fucking cuties man why did that have to happen and why do people have to defend it as we've said before the easiest thing for us all to agree on you'd think and we could have all just let it be an obscure french movie that no one gave a shit about to all you had to do is be against the sexual exploitation of children that's all you had to do but ranks it's about how that's bad it's worth it then we did it we defeated badness did mola just put us on a list i can't remember what list is specified the chatter on but yes well now we all know movie bob's sexual desires you i mean he was just fucking weird anyway it seems like he had to compensate for having read something that he thinks is embarrassing to have read on some shit but i wasn't even relevant to the video i know it was really fucking weird and i just feel like if you know people that think he's uh in any way not insane see that they'd probably be like oh my god movie bob how could you uh sport prawn is what we have all truly wanted should note i've only been watching this stream for five minutes well i think that comment is just as worthy regardless of how long you've been watching the stream hello mules lee do you still read streamlabs i never get to catch a stream trying to avoid youtube's 30 theft also high rags hi um so let's have a luke see this'll get re-mentioned at the end i suppose which will have to be in like two hours um well assuming that rags is still able to do it for that long as well um the we've got a couple of of bonus things on the way we've actually got two e-faps recorded that haven't come out yet it's a meme fap and the amazing spider-man 2 debate fap um the amazing spider-man 2 one will be out next saturday i'm not sure when the meme fap one is going to be coming exactly we'll figure that out uh but on top of that the meme fap at the end of it i believe i do all of the streamlabs ones that i haven't caught up to yet it's in either that or something else i will i'll have to find out exactly where the streamlabs ones are but it'll be in the whatever title of the thing that gets released what was it i think it might have been um the resident evil part two play through the rags and i did that i caught up with the streamlabs actually sorry so that will be out as soon as we can fucking push out um little hope so give little hope about nine days that's when the the claim releases and then a couple days after that i'll put out uh resident evil part two and then a few days after that uh we'll put out gaming 11 which had tonal dinner i you know gotta gotta just keep these in in the timeline why is it all fucked up um and as for catching up on all of the of super chats i've still got a list of any that we need to do and since i'll be releasing a pre-recorded e-fap for e-fap next week rags and i will definitely be able to uh do a catch-up of some kind whether offline or on whether memes or not you never know because funnily enough someone one of you should have been complaining that i never finished track two but i did in the meme fap it's all there all the track twos glory so um trap for fake fans yeah um do and that i think is all they the there is to come um so yeah there's some there's some stuff in there streamlabs ones have been read out and uh i will collect any more that have uh lingered between then and this stream and attach them to the catch-up none shall be missed forever well at least now it makes more sense as to why movie bob loves cuties i don't know i just i just think it doesn't make sense ever there is no instance and yet so many people did defend it so what do i know jnd talk about that one person again thanks damn both of them are gone i don't know exactly who they're talking about uh j's a botter oh my god nope it's all a blur it's all a blur how to keep track of all these 107 is a major rebirth they want an encore of that um i think that means invite gliders to efab maybe i don't know but yes uh well he was on yesterday actually um because it's apparently a language i don't believe it but uh i have to try and guess what they're saying i i i i'm afraid i just don't know what this means crazy moon language is kind of what i assume it is the people of the moon will often use languages like this to confuse uh hi rags hi have y'all played hollow night uh i have i left it quite a bit i didn't finish it i've not played it wow what about you jamie i have not a bunch of non gamers here you can believe it uh best metroidvania ever made in my opinion also out of wilds is pretty neat oh and you should play it maybe only ever hear good things yeah i do hope it's a good good shit in the comics Wakanda has the cure for all cancer but won't share it because we let cigarettes be sold seriously gee sounds like the comics might be shit that's uh that's that's a moral standard wow what's the point in curing cancer if people stop smoking you know i agree with them fuck them if there's a cure for cancer then you can smoke i was gonna say it seems like the reverse should be happening it's like jesus christ guys we could make it so you could smoke forever yeah wouldn't that be sweet no i would probably smoke cigarettes if barely anyone smokes too well too many smoked rags too many i guess death sticks indeed uh what in the sam hellard i just walk in on this warrants using money to express my discomfort i don't know what portion of the stream that you walked in on it's definitely a lot of parts one of the things we're gonna go to find the readings for the super chats for the 10 hour the boys season two episode we still haven't gotten to them yet um and since that was a 10 hour episode that might be one of those ones that we try and do in portions and i stitched together rags i'm not sure so it's gonna be all about the boys or maybe we'll record that in one long stream or offline i don't know i'll figure it out we still haven't finished 103s yet we've gone through 103s and three separate catch ups or we will by the time i finish it um but we will catch up and i will sign post what things are being addressed sorry it's taken so long uh regarding getting arrested for having underage new picks of yourself yes people have gotten arrested under cp laws for that there was also a 17 year old kid in va who was arrested for that had his life ruined yet so it's a kind of it's a complex one right like the action of taking that photo of yourself can put you in jail in a sense or at least get you some serious punishments um but it's the tangling up of the law in ways that seem like it's just how it would have to roll out uh is it weird to that fuck i don't know yeah fuck your sister when you're 13 because you don't know incest is bad yeah it's still weird it's still weird like you need to be told that it's bad typically uh you would be a great otaku but if we take it out you wouldn't be a grand dragon rags you'd be a grand bad dragon yeah boy have you heard of daryl davis he's a black man who befriended a grand wizard he even went to meetings it's a great story i think i've heard of that yeah i think i have too we must hurry first don't be fucking bizarre wouldn't it be a black dude go into kkk me and you must be like all right just don't hit me and i'll listen out for whatever ideas you guys have if you want like i wonder if he like was just listening already once in a while put his hand up and be like i disagree with uh do the things you said they haven't techno union ships remaining um the kkk are exactly the same as blm both are racist and evil but both deserve equal ability to engage in the public discourse don't silence anyone i agree don't silence anyone but i mean within reason yeah i can't think of a good reason to legally someone yeah it feels like a slippery slope sort of thing right yeah air on the side of not doing it i fucking love the lasers on this thing so okay you can't use them constantly so that's bad and you want to remember the kool-aid kool tubes and the kool-aid kool tubes no i don't i do not i feel bad now like this is probably like oh make a video about how like young kids don't remember maybe some people in chat remember it who in chat remembers kool-aid kool tubes i just fucking blew myself up um earlier this year in cali we did have an incident where a guy went to his nearby whole foods in his kkk hood everyone stayed at him and he was eventually banned from the store hi raggleton hi um i feel like if i was a store owner and he was literally doing nothing to hurt anyone he was just grabbing some apples and paying for them i'd be like okay uh yes we can leave him alone he's just super okay do you mind not wearing that next time yeah i'd be like it'd be preferable you're just gonna really stress out a lot of people who also shop here that's all he's like hey i ain't doing nothing you're like i can't i put you not that'd be great want to hear a funny joke women's rights oh uh don't be racist rags 2020 yeah i think that's a position you you say you hold oh yeah be racist not because he's a building just in general yeah it's just good advice you don't have to be a building to get good advice mohler critiques like a lesbian and rags is only man's best friend hot okay pardon me still i'm way hotter than that i really want remarkable republican to just be a real person i know yeah i know it's not but i'm a little sad that it isn't we're all sad about that honestly mohler sexism confirmed pronounced sexism but yes i don't see the problem and highlighting a problem is more so creating one that didn't exist now isn't it fuck this is awkward i'm trying to shoot something that i'm not allowed to go towards let me shoot it okay oh there you go it i used the minorities to destroy the minorities evil plans man you can't it's just please uh mando season two is trash felonies beyond overrated favro seems to have a lobotomy and baby yoda is an anchor on the show and it's all so pointless your anchor like it's slowing it down yeah when the last thing that show needs is a fucking anchor yeah i guess because every plot line revolves around getting baby yoda to a place so is that what they mean by nothing else can happen because yoda is just fucking there i've seen people getting frustrated by referring to the child as baby yoda by the way you need to chill um so everyone calls him yeah like it's so colloquial at this point you have to understand that it doesn't have to be accurate to be acceptable though i'm not saying that's anybody in chat particularly just i've just seen internet discourse be like uh can you please stop calling him baby yoda he's not yoda and it's like i know you know it's fine even though he might be yoda as rags is derising the whole thing that like oh it's like yoda but he's a baby is the whole point well he might actually like end up being a fucking clone of yoda so at that point i think he is yeah surely it's fine to call him baby yoda if he's an actual clone of baby yoda no just chill it's fine so this mission's mean i'm actually like doing it in the most careful way possible now cycling and do a bit of shooting and run away and my shields but yeah as for whether or not season two is trash can we get some yays or nays on that chat meadow season two is trash yay or nay don't need elaboration of course because rags and i will want to know nothing about it except whether or not people start to think it's bad how we doing we got yay yay meh yay nay nay yay yay meh nay yay nay yay so far better than season one too early to say for sure meh nay meh nay nay nay holiday meh yay well man we've got a full mix here we've got we've got maybe nos and yeses what would you put your money on rags if you were a betting man i bet it's shit it kind of do too but uh i suppose we should see come on there's this place of so many defenses i'm outraged medium d fella is based back system and small well you had him for good uh how long was that like nine hours not bad as a white liberal i agree just because i'm a white guy doesn't mean i have privilege just because of that and if you believe you do then you have the tism that's a whole fucking boatload of things on its own i'd like i need you to define exactly what you mean by it and if it's something that because this example is often used right but like if obama went up to a white hobo and was like you have privilege over me you're like uh-huh i just like who are you leave me alone man i just want to be homeless it's my thing uh hello everybody long love spot also high rags oh hi there how would you define grinding in games everyone seems to think they know but they can't agree with each other or without the people when it comes to specifics and we're gonna take on that first hmm a a definition that covers everything yeah i don't know about that um yeah that's a tough one um the first thing you guys you do is like war the instances in which we describe as grinding and then see what the commonality is right that's probably how we do it i i think grinding a lot of it is how it makes you feel like if you're doing something that's repetitious but it's done in a very engaging way i don't think it's grinding i don't know i'd have to think about that what makes something grinding as opposed to just a lot of repetitious stuff yeah like some people might say oh killing four two ranking up and that is grinding but yeah but i don't know i mean i wouldn't call it that because i think you progress at a decent level right maybe it's progress over time like the ratio of the progress you make to the time you invest i know that some people will probably want to suggest there's got to be a the repetitious elements got to come in right and it's like i think that's a given it's more specific than just that because a lot of games can be repetitive but really fun because of the fact that you're unlocking things along the way or something in terms of your ability to destroy stuff yeah you get a variety like if you're constantly unlocking stuff that gives variety i think that would be more difficult to call a grind yeah like is getting to the highest level in cod games a grind or is it that you just really want to get there and it takes a while but you get stuff along the way i suppose the prestige things would be considered grinding right um i don't think so because i think part of it is forward like what what are you getting for the reward and stuff like if it's prestige you're just getting like prestige for it so i don't know if that could be something that you grind if the whole point is to show that you play a lot um i'm not sure i'm not sure i'd that's something i'd kind of want to top and think about i think a level of the level of engagement return on you know time investment and the actual rewards you get for it yeah i'd say so i think those would all kind of mix together that's probably the the close we'll be able to get no sort of casual answer on a stream i would say but there's going to be videos about it i imagine that go into mucho depth though also james more said uh i just learned dead space two forces you to use stasis on the first enemy when you get stasis or else the enemy is invincible already then i know that too because i was curious i think i tried to stack a whole bunch of things from where the enemy is going to come from um before i went to get the stasis and then you get it then he spawned the first dead space you're talking about second one oh um and then he spawned and i was like bah i don't have to get you at stasis now because you'll be delayed um but none of my ammo was working on him and i was like why and then he just killed me and i was like wait do you have to do it that way okay seemed a little bit lame that does seem very lame it's just one of those things i think that the devs were like well of course you'll use stasis on him right and you're like well i i mean you know maybe i won't no i got a clear every area nobody else can do it whole level's very let's go very final level vibes yeah it's very it's like but is it i don't know actually it wouldn't surprise me that i blast through an entire game to game during i'll see which i catch ups that seems to happen a lot the only game that i ever put up a fucking fight about that was uh third age yeah it was like a million years long that's just yeah it's got a lot of stuff going on for it that moment when you pop onto a live efab to see how the boys are doing and you get a random history lesson about slavery yeah oh my goodness you just don't know what's going to happen next the rewriting of history is unbelievable most people don't know anything about slavery or history i've been called racist for correcting them well well maybe history is racist you don't know the less of it the better right guys wasn't it recently um california have been banning or considering banning a whole bunch of books for the obvious reasons you'd expect goodbye history i'm sure that sounds like exactly what california would do yeah i didn't hear about that specifically but yeah it surprised me i'm just always doing it it's uh it's a bit frustrating whenever that happens because you get a sense of like you fools what are you doing at least you could probably find these books online if anybody says you're not allowed to read them not a good thing that you have to do that but at least you can do it yeah exactly um there are ant species that enslave other ants yeah i mean ants are fucking terrifying if you see videos about what they do nature is metal bro yeah um what's the the one that people always reference is the um the thing that last was is kind of inspired by i guess is that spore or whatever the artifacts yeah if that's if that's like the general term or whatever um they're scary like in nature what are you doing yeah run my precious clones run sir our sensors show multiple enemy units approaching you're going to have to cover us until we get into shadow the hedgehog is what hatred wishes it was uh that's pretty edgy can we really handle that amount of edge i don't know maybe shadow is the guy from hatred this fell into a vat of toxic hedgehogs you know he became shadow i think that makes sense it would have also explained his amnesia because he'd have to have amnesia otherwise it wouldn't make sense because he'd know he was from the shadow world or the the hatred world oh the shadow realm is pretty edgy yeah that's pretty edgy i'd agree that shadow realm's pretty fucking edgy man come on team get in there can't be laser in shit all day the greatest coup in history was socialists changing the narrative to paint the nazi's right wing they were socialists in name and policy and we're as left wing as they come it was a trick played by the ussr and the european socialists all totalitarians a left wing almost by definition the more you know i feel like they'll be pushed back on that from all different kinds of people may they be in chat or viewing i wonder if medium d would have been got a lot to say about that i'm sure just gonna carry on fire and lasers in my style game you know um living the dream slavery predate humanity there is a species of ants called ant making ants that raid other ant colonies for slaves google it i rags hi like i said you wouldn't need to convince me and to fucked up they just uh yeah but at the same time pretty efficient for their size you know i will say i'm impressed by them no i win yet oh am i supposed to destroy this oh god i hope so i feel like i'm shooting it it's a bad idea uh do do do do if not for the letter you then uk english would just be american english just some flavor hi rags english um it's not just the you know there's some other stuff there's aluminium all that sort of wacky stuff pronunciation is very important i guess i'm supposed to destroy this is the at 2020 usb worth 130 quid how much did you get yours for also me hi rags sent me hi oh hi rags oh and hello hey i think it was uh it's worth the money i've had this one for a long time and it's a really decent quality so it really just depends on what kind of investment you think would be worthy of 130 quid and if that is an investment of i mean to be honest with you i don't even think this thing will break unless i do something to it so with that kind of just sits there yeah so you got a lot of years guaranteed with it and it's very good quality i don't hate violent video games in before but um yeah the energy of that video was very much that i'm not calling for them to be banned just you know they don't have to be put on every single platform that's always nice and i'm in maybe we can pressure those platforms into not carrying the games we don't like you know they can do whatever they want but we're gonna pressure them in the cultural also fuck them for hosting it if they do his voice always seems a little overdone i don't know yeah it's um it sounds like it was sped up but it might not be sped up i don't really know it's like digitized it's definitely yeah it's fucked with it i'm just not entirely sure you know like if you take a voice and you copy it on the timeline and put it below the like in another timeline but move it forward like a half second oh it's like a really slap back delay sort of thing yeah it just it kind of came across that way i don't know if that's what he's doing yeah i don't know he might be speeding it up ever so slightly too and if you do that digitally he gives it a sort of sounds like a mildly disordered sound his voice is making me rage it's really annoying yeah i completely agree i think it's really annoying try and separate that out i suppose when you listen to those arguments that's probably you know the voice in videos or youtube brother probably accounts for more user sort of um attention the most elements of the video yeah i'd say so yeah i mean yeah i agree because like you have to make them pretty fucking good arguments if you have a really stanky voice yeah like the handicap that cosmonaut variety howard has with his vocal fry like sounds so bad yeah like it's not like it grates on your ears it's fucking insanely bad a lot of people really like it i don't know a lot of people really like like the extra credits one but there's probably probably people i guess i don't know if i'm supposed to be playing this level this way but like i don't know how else to play i just gotta annihilate if i don't run away every other second i'm all uh hello uh rags do you ever hear anything from cyrus that guy way back in the days that went nuts in your comments and you made a response oh cyrus smart no i've never haven't thought of him in ages jesus christ yeah i haven't thought of him and i don't even know when the last time was that i even thought about him well now you can say you know because it was today uh he used of the iliad to lead into this barely related point is super off base i wish i was in the call so i could illustrate why oh don't worry we we definitely picked up that that was only there as like possibly to to just look like he knows stuff but simultaneously to try and introduce like a counter to the potential of us saying that like it's intrinsic that we would as humans would want to explore all emotions because he was like oh the iliad one of the earliest works is all about exploring a particular emotion but there's still ones we're not allowed to touch okay experiences stay away from those ones because like what if someone said you know fucking experiencing or distressing about violent tendencies is bad but any game is to do it bad he was like no we need to stress out de-stress about stuff like that and be like no de-stressing about that is just bad it's causing causing violence is just fucked up you must know so he didn't he didn't do a very good job characterizing the point of a lot of the stuff that's in the iliad too because he kind of leaves out all the sort of like honor of warfare stuff like that it's not all about how violence wrong it's not like revenge bad it's not quite that simplistic oh for sure and i think that might be what this super chat's talking about in terms of like they want to talk specifics about what they've fucked up in terms of the references like yeah there's probably a whole bunch of stuff i don't stand um expecting authors to tell the audience morality plans the idea that art can make us do evil that's a precedent which hurts culture in the long run yeah i mean it's a complicated subject that's going to go on forever about the the responsibility of art and the influence of art like what if someone cites that Winnie the Pooh made them kill their classmates in school you'd be like i i did it time to ban Winnie the Pooh i guess so goodbye Winnie definitely not because Xi Jinping kind of looks like Winnie the Pooh it's completely unrelated we're going to ban it because it's one guy you know looking like Winnie the Pooh it's not the worst thing you should probably embrace it you're like yeah Winnie the Pooh is pretty cool dude but he's a dick dude if he did that would be so fucking funny though yeah i can't imagine playing no russian with my parents yeah yeah that'd be a weird thing to do though it'd be nice for them to sit you down and explain why it was bad at some point um his voice is making oh yeah it's people being angry about the voice i i understand terrible voice i have no fucking clue the design decision that went into yeah i'm gonna do this extra work to make my voice sounded sufferably bad i guess yeah i guess he liked the choice i don't fucking care i guess i got no no other way to explain that shit it's weird i am not playing dead or alive with my mother i'm afraid you have to she's gonna need to teach you about the world now why does he criticize games like this about mass murder like hatred or postal but not hitman which is about methodical premeditated murder yeah but i think uh hitman is not because i need to try to do that and she got shadowed over for doing it oh well yeah i need to uh got shadowed for like everyone of it fucking game takes they all just showed this blatant lack of experience with the things he was talking about um with extra credits i think he would have known that hitman is not a game he could target at least um that's why there's probably no fucking examples because any game you go after is going to cause a ruckus in your comment section yeah like it just a picture i'm saying about doing one as best you can and the best in the closest because he needs at least something to tie it to just so he chooses the game that hasn't come out yet at least at the time anyway mm-hmm yeah um imagine he said doom was one of the ones that shouldn't be allowed fucking roasted so i think probably why he wouldn't say something like hitman is that like hitman character isn't like getting off on it so much i think it's because it's an example well yes for sure but i just mean that like he's his whole point is about like purely sadistic games and someone methodically doing a job for money using white sadisms you know well um you you could still make the argument that uh providing the experience of doing such a thing is uh wrong in in the same sense that he's gunning for anything that relates to i was gonna say any i was like trying to think of all the things he's gunning for like literally none fucking making examples all of those vague things that i'm kind of sort of referencing he's totally hard during every kill of course imagine a sadist playing the last of us to the ultimate frustration they would feel at the end would cause them to go on a murder spree absolutely oh my gosh um in relation to efap i think that's 104 my roman numerals are okay no 106 uh the beginning of the stream discussions about bad tv shows batwoman slash infinity tizms is offensively bad for me though mostly for adaption reasons and how the insult the characters from the comics but can understand why you guys enjoy it after watching the minis yeah i love them there's there's no exaggeration in that statement i i just it's um it's the anti content and uh it the the idea that i'm constantly like i know that someone made this earnestly is just some of the most enjoyable i don't i don't ask to explain it you've seen the minis guys you know they just like we're we got season two is on the way and they would have had to have rushed it because i'm pretty sure it's the same release date as before covid happened and they had to stop filming so i can't wait to see what it's like rushed yeah if they if they made the season that they did in leisure oh i can't imagine well we took our time with what you guys saw i'll be like oh and i hope it works really hard on it guys i hope they bring back the person who did the soundtrack for the first episode that guy was a legend i'm pretty sure that was like in the rutting for the best beam of the second year of e-fail you're constantly just slipping into it it's just so catchy yeah it's fucking great work they should be proud it really does feel like the final level it is it's gonna be over still got another like oh what's my what do i resort to is it simpson's hitting ronal mary sunshine whenever i finish something i don't know uh shot adia blood trail went cold and i couldn't find him really oh that's unfortunate um yeah that's not good shoot them better next time yeah i guess it's like um i'll get i think that happens in the last of us that exact scenario and then they try and take your kill because this their fevers it's kind of what happens in a no-country world mind you but you get distracted i learned more from geometry wars than from the afghanistan war well yeah the geometry wars was just when it came out everybody felt like changed you know most people do i learned all my morals from that i don't know what i was doing before most people were afraid of the gaming industry is like pre geometry wars and post geometry wars because like it it's just too big of a landmark and do you remember who you were before geometry wars ranks i've never found games to have depth necessary to teach me complex real-life lessons about violence they're just types of fun like movies books well that's that's as simple as it can get and i don't even think the extra credits accounts for that well doesn't know that that's a thing that you simply play something for the satisfaction of the mechanics it's the idea that we play games that are violent for fun just like doesn't even occur yeah like if someone said what i've been doing this whole time on clone wars is really violent because i'm just firing rockets and exploding things i'd be like oh i mean i guess i just didn't register it that way at all i don't know it seems pretty sadistic to me yeah these poor droids hey hey hey molla did you watch if the emperor had its if the emperor had text-to-speech device yet i'm gonna keep asking till you do it so do it it's great i've not seen it yet i'm afraid um but i do hear from many people during super chats that it is great all possibly the same person at this point i didn't even realize um i've never found games oh wait mr satan that makes sense stop it i could be in reference to all kinds of things the literature devil said yeah uh why does he criticize games like this about mass murder like hatred or postal oh wait i read that one already about efat movies tropic thunder pretty please um i don't know if that would work for tropics uh efat movies i do not know and to be honest with you our backlog for um potential efat movies movies it's kind of enormous and we've started up the resneal series so that's going to be taking slots where they come you know how it be just go watch it with your friends it's great yeah there's some friends together watch it screen savers were made for the old monitors they don't do anything now but look nice uh so you could definitely have images burned down to your uh monitors now um i can't remember if it's like dependent on what kind of monitor you have but doing it like keeping any strong bright image on your you know uh monitors it'll definitely cause a yeah just not a good idea it's not permanent like mine have gone away i stopped using them but it doesn't look good you can notice it sometimes in games certainly extra credits is unsatisfactory unsadest factory what would a sadist factory look like i'm not sure remember when extra credits wasn't horrible neither do i um i've never watched them in the you know heyday or when they were good or whatever okay so i only have a small very few videos and i was never impressed and then the fucking nazi thing happened and i was like holy shit i'm guessing you guys didn't watch them when they were good either quote unquote no i never really watched them no i've never seen anything other than the nazi video and the one we watched today so uh i wonder if they because they kept that video up i guess they just they're standing by it i think i in one in one of my little joke videos i needed a really really bad like to dislike ratio so i went to that video yeah i don't um is there a you know like worst ratio ever video out there i'm sure maybe i'm sure yeah one has to be i just i just mean like do we know what it is i guess yeah i don't know because um the fucking review of cuties is probably up there right the one that how many people saw that i think well it's still because i i saw someone say that it was down and i was curious why tracked it's still up so the extra credits um stop normalizing nazis it's 19 k likes 288 k dislikes it's a 19 to 288 thousand yikes yeah i cannot imagine making a video that gets 288 thousand dislikes that's just so many what about the um can you check the mr girl review which one um type mr girl cuties and you should be able to spot it it's incredibly disliked naturally and uncomfortably honest review that's the one oh this video may be inappropriate for some users let's see um yeah so this is 1.9 thousand likes 119 thousand dislikes so that is possibly the worst ratio we have right now from knowledge oh yeah it's a worse ratio than the other one for sure i don't think it's like yeah because i just think that one's probably going to be one of the top runners because anything else i think i was probably just going to be a controversial thing rather than a thing most people will despise um if you want to see sadism in a video game watch some invasions in demon souls with the scraping spear which destroys the victims equipment oh yeah that's when you know you uh why do you put shit like that into a video game good question right because i feel that way about a lot of the stuff in the souls series here in there but demon souls i'm pretty sure has a whole bunch more than the others so i just i did some quick maths and that is a 98 dislike to 1.5 like ratio that's pretty steep yeah i think it's gonna be hard to beat that especially with um the height of numbers too because you might you might find a video that's got like zero likes and one dislike and be like ah yeah now the 1966 hobbit short on youtube is only 12 minutes interesting all right then moles have been harassing the efab science division about this and they can't confirm or deny murder being bad slash illegal they're stumped why i don't know who the efab science division is but um murder is illegal whether murder is my definition yeah whether murder is bad do you remember what the strict definition of murder it's like unjustified killing of another person so whether or not it's bad will still kind of be down to if you agree with how the law treats a justified or unjustified murder right because someone i mean like yeah if we're talking about like people even though it's a it's a legal thing people don't generally mean it purely legally yeah please don't murder me i'm in an innocent little at at well no way atst but not really early model um i tune into efab and literally the first thing i hear is slavery was an accomplishment rags how the hell could you say something so incredibly insensitive to marginalize groups here's some money uh mola it was an accomplishment yes not a good one mola notice that you're a fan of lovecraft slash cognac horror it would be a disservice of me not to recommend you watch the mothman prophecies from 2002 it is in my five top tens favorite horror films of all time especially after rewatching it recently um i've always known about that film and i never watched it i know my sisters watched it some night and they said it was spooky i was just like neat i do not know anything about the mothman or what the uh the legend is do you guys know anything about the mothman i do not know anything about that nope it's like an urban legend of sorts spooky man the moth so the guy who left a super chat about shooting the deer and it got away would like to let me know that shoot it better next time well considering it was a 180 to 200 yard shot i'd say it was good enough the problem was that the trail led to a patch of long grass it was difficult to spot a blood splurge damn hey man i'm i was just joking i can't hunt for shit it wasn't really a comment on the marksmanship so much as a that's suffered and died out there it's all right yeah it's unfortunate that happened wisdom one to one most people don't know when a cow poop on your left or right eye the whole face is covered also high rags hi yeah that makes sense i feel like that's probably on point yeah uh green savers howdy ho there y'all hello and uh hello cappadoo howdy duty great to see you on just finished converting five friends to the master race faith and built all of their PCs also i'm positive i'm positive for the coof so goodbye everybody have been dead a month when they read this oh you'll probably be fine you the chances of you dying from it are very slim yeah and let us know when you recover because that'll be nice little news assuming of course there's anything to necessarily recover from hopefully you get one of those cycles where you don't even realize you have it you know i've heard that that's possible um and yeah our job on conversion to the master race everyone should run to bc it'll take care of you much better it well than spooky console land i'm just saying all right i think i'm going to call it a night wow my brain is only 10 hours okay well i know i'm it's it's weak stuff yeah pretty weak my disappointment is i mean it was it was a good time i'm sorry to disappoint yes it's okay um oh shit i should pause my game while you tell people what it is you do on your channel and where to find you oh i make videos on my youtube channel you can find my youtube channel at capitolow opinions at youtube.me.edu i think you'll enjoy the content there we're viewing devs uh devs is awful and you should come watch how awful it is there will be more npc reviews down the road and uh yeah that's all i got it's good stuff to check it out oh someone asked where do i mail you pallets of cash uh my home oh i remember the pallets of cash request yeah yeah you can just send them to my house um but yeah go check them out you guys have already seen videos for capitolow opinions on e-fap so you should have subscribed already it only makes sense and uh yeah thank you for hanging out with us for so long my good man it's been fun enjoy take it easy guys you too um good night i suppose bye bye bye all right which leaves just us two ranks can you believe it it's down to us yep once more i can just get this page sorted i will i will refresh to discover how far or close we are to uh completion because of course i uh i started a little bit late today which means i have to leave a little earlier than i would have preferred as you do oh boy it sent me back to the bottom thing um what a rage games for 500 please yeah it's a little bit weird that we uh we just sort of with a lot of the logic um good ol extra credits was using a lot of things could get wiped out if you start to um assess one of the things and i would honestly say like part of the big fucking floor of that video is how short it is the thing i'm not against short videos they're just often unable to uh express exactly what you're trying to get across if you take a topic as large as what uh extra credits is doing it's an inevitability of sorts uh can we have Christopher Lee's metal eczema songs i doubt i'd be able to play them for copyright reasons oh Jesus fine i'll wait till my shields regenerate i don't it banned i just want it basically banned yeah that's the problem when you de-platform something from everywhere uh this is the problem with cancellation by the way um when you're like they shouldn't have this particular job and then you move it to they shouldn't have any job you're like wait do you want to kill them these people want you destitute on the fucking streets so they need to think that through because they're like whoa i don't want them dead and you're like really you get a different impression oh we did it sweet the idiot is very explicitly makes rage look like a terrible awful thing that has no ultimate positive value just like what he said sadism is the majority of the separatist forces yeah that's probably what people are referring to when it's like there's more things to say in relation to the idiot but the atte should do the trick what are you gonna do deus vault with the table i understand i understand the connection people have to both the table and seven i suppose it's just gonna be a matter of which one holds out which one convinces the most people although we've been on this spooky planet for really long now i assume it's the endgame planet we're just doing like those different vehicle types around it also if you don't watch it i'll go fall i'll go full hardcore henry guy on you until you watch it oh darn well as i said we weren't trying to set a precedent with that we just decided to check it out you know a lot of people seem to think now that if they send loads and loads of money at us to make us do a thing it'll work and i wouldn't want that to be assumed to be true at the same time if you want to push that you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna stop you it's so it would be a weird thing for me to do though i've got a vague interest in mothman no promises in terms of watching okay much like everything we talk about i'm sure uh there are people who've wanted us to check out certain things for certain do you know there's probably a fan out there that really wanted us to see extraterrestrial and they got their wish yeah they did we're like the make-a-wish foundation you know a whole bunch people wanted us to do any fat movies from moulin and that happened it's a bit of a luck of the draw sort of situation i never know exactly what we're gonna do rewatch the sterling sterling gay world stream yesterday oh the gay world game yeah oh that he was the one yeah i bought that i just seen it sounds hilarious like the title it does sound hilarious i'm i gotta play it one of these days they already have my money like rax thought the name was so good he was willing to give money for it i understand how gay world sounds fucking hilarious it's just a horde fucking mission god damn it game we were the bad guys point me to them probably thinks people only learn from video games it was it was it was a bit of an awkward implication um but of course i wouldn't deny that a lot of people can learn a lot from video games of course there's something that can happen so you kind of want to be careful with your kind of messages you can express in them but at the same time to be like you need someone to talk to you at the end of doom to make sure you understood what was happening in doom or something i should be like oh gosh that's a little bit awkward now isn't it i play rpg's because i enjoy exploring all other routes they can have so one character will be a saint like the dawn and the others could be gray or just cruel sadist because i want to see how the story changes am i bad now table uh yeah you you're an awful person i suppose yeah um if you do any kind of sadism that's just an automatic black soul on you i think so get rekt uh i'd love to introduce extra credits to love a slab which his head explodes sex and sadism lover slab yeah lover's lab oh what's lovers lab it's like this these mods are like porn and stuff i think it's funny you said lover slab yeah i mean i don't know why i actually did looking at it now i probably should have defaulted to lovers lab but okay uh watch his head explode sex and sadism video game modding entertainment central yeah there's a lot of entertainment out there that those who enjoy it have been um given a thorough label by a good old extra credits in that video would you say that those have no redeeming value whatsoever well i guess just jerking um i i guess he wouldn't have a problem with that right nobody i don't know i uh this is the problem with with this you try like he's just trying to find a way to make sadism the ugly no no position while everything else is okay and it feels like there's elements that uh in all kinds of things that would be reflective of what he's saying is a bad so you start asking the questions you know a la ronde can just tell people he slipped it's true but uh i don't know if people are gonna believe him by that maybe if elrond threw himself into so that everyone would just wonder forever what the fuck happened that could be funny you know so in ragnosis porn well i made a video a long time ago about someone throwing a fit because there were there were adult mods for skyrim very mad at the objectification of fake women what that's why he learned about lover's lab but why the mod why would they care because it's objectification of women but okay fine i'm not gonna pretend to understand it i'll just say you know they're right down with mods nobody likes mods uh i guess elrond could tell people the seal door got corrupted by sarin's ring and he had no choice but to kill a seal door they'd believe that right no god could you imagine like a war being won by two races that have got an awkward history and then right at the end of the fight when everything's over one of the leaders of one side kills the other i just ah the chaos it would create i almost want to see that story now you fucking do that oh it's the ring he made him evil i think they'd rather assume the ring made elrond do it what's that shit it's still door no it's still door no no alternate take nick cage equals aragorn and shone connery equals gandalf together again i would watch this vision i feel like it could be you know it could be something to it like i don't think he's gonna be better than ian mcallon but i still want to see shone connery give gandalf a shot you know a little bit late now but uh back then also also just to give you a hook for the film here's a scene between two characters don't worry i've edited the conversation so not to spoil the film to be continued in the next super chat uh all right we'll gather soon i need supplies not to die where are those supplies captain oof they're good guys um hi rags hello rags is right about the 99.9 percent sitting down part oh that was the hunting thing right yeah yeah yeah i think that's the thing i i have i have no interest in hunting myself but i have no interest in fishing either for the same reason that's why they're always portrayed in media for the most part other than like i don't know that there's a film that has like hunting it's just constant action packed sort of shit i've always known hunters to be a sort of like you got to prepare to sit in and yeah you dress up in camo and sit around and get that one shot off but for me i'm just i mean like i'm interested in marksmanship and things of that nature but i just the hunting part i just don't have any interest in it more power to him though like here in arkansas every time because i've started hiking again we've gone three times so like once a week we've done 10 miles every time except for the first one we did eight so we did about 28 miles the last three weeks and our free outings we've seen like half a dozen deer every time deer here are everywhere if we don't have people hunting them they get overpopulated and then suffer horrible miserable starving deaths in the winter yeah um so we definitely need people to hunt them as south park put it you got to kill them or else they'll die i mean basically yeah yeah it like it sounds funny but it's like true it's like yeah you definitely want to give them a much quicker death from a random gunshot than or a bow or bow season comes first then then just like wasting away miserable you say um bow season is that like a specific time frame where the bow is just better or more more efficient than a gun more it's it's never more efficient however um so the way that we do it here i assume it's probably the same in the uk um but you have animals have seasons where you can only hunt certain animals during certain times so we're getting into our deer season now uh but it's not always gun season it's not always the rifles it starts off i think it's because i'm no hunter but i think that's how it works is there's a bow season where people go out and you're allowed to use a bow and arrow to hunt them but no guns yet um that's just when essentially bows are allowed you know then after then well the reason for that is no i don't know the reason um it might be because guns are so much better that and it's tougher to use a bow that it's to give them a i guess i guess more a more chance at deer um but i'm not actually sure uh that's just a guess off the top of my head i think like the hunters who prefer a bow won't get a chance as much as the gun uses if they're they'll have the same a lot of times sort of thing i mean you would definitely have i mean like if everyone's going around using guns you'll bag way more um but i i think it might just be the i mean i'll look it up i assume it's to give them a a fair shot at their you know their own so let's see um let's see to give or are there separate seasons for archery and firearms um allow push toward the city gates uh folks i apologize a spanning population both tools can be done hunting with the rifles easier uh hunting with the bow and arrow on the other hand normally requires much more knowledge of the animals much more practice with the bow much more knowledge and practice in woodsmanship the hunter must get much closer to his quarry which is a big thing wild animals are very wary and usually notice a nearby hunter first even when he wears camouflage and sneaks away without ever being seen by the hunter thus success rates in archery seasons are typically much lower than firearm seasons therefore game departments using both firearm and archery seasons as management tools usually lengthen archery seasons also to give archery hunters a little extra help in areas where extra harvest will not hurt game populations to help hunters put meat in the freezers archery seasons are often scheduled to coincide with the target animal's rut breeding season when the male animal is less wary um but it looks yeah so i think one i don't think they overlap here i'm not sure um but i think one like the bow seasons first and then there's the gun season let's see let's see just giving through here i guess it's i guess especially when you look at it from a large large-scale perspective bow hunting probably probably accounts for almost certainly accounts for a much smaller segment of deer kills i imagine um so archery it's so that so you can have more time to use it whereas guns are a lot more efficient so the season's narrower so that's probably one aspect of it so you can go hunting if you use a bow for a longer stretch of time because it's less efficient let's see um it looks uh so i guess in pennsylvania this was saying archery covering all of the seasons archery only accounted for about 93 000 deer in 2014 while rifle hunters harvested about double at around 190 000 so that was the pennsylvania deer harvest some pennsylvania deer harvest statistics so yeah there's fucking a lot of deer like they're fucking all over the place a lot of deer and i don't think they have any natural predators around here really um i think humans are the biggest predators of deer around here um but so that probably plays into it as well i when someone was talking about how i've seen bears here i haven't seen bears here i think there might be bears in the northeast of the state or northwest of the state i i have seen them i i have seen bears in the wild when i've been going on trips um but i haven't seen any here in arkansas it's all black bear with uh two cubs just moseying around we were actually horseback riding at the time and we sort of we we saw them just moseying around isn't it like you spot cubs or in range of any cubs it's just like get the fuck out of it um yeah they i mean they're gonna be very protective of them is what i hear but we were far enough away and there were a bunch of us it's cool though it's cool to see bears oh too big they're black bears they weren't like that big they're not like grizzly they're big i haven't seen one of those i can do this chow okay i might die a whole bunch but i'm just getting so close i can do it um i'm gonna make tonal's cake it includes raspberries fair enough and uh thoughts on how some journalists think that you can't objectively report the news uh i don't want those people being journalists i don't understand why how the last this last person you should have as a journalist is someone who's like you can't be objective about things that happen in reality i'm like oh you're if you shouldn't be in that job if the logic is you'll always have a history of of things you know that'll affect how you interpret things you see or whatever i'd be like okay but that's not really what like everyone's really really concerned with primarily being that you won't ignore things that are really fucking bad just because it affects the narrative you want to push and they use that as a pass to just say all the shit they want feel like you can't be you can't be you if you can't be objective about anything if it's all subjective it's if it's all just my opinion uh then it just doesn't really matter what i say really i mean you know how i feel is how it is and i could feel any kind of way that i feel at any given moment like there is a there is a there is an objective reality and it's your job to report to the rest of the world of what that objective reality is if you cannot do that and if you don't think it's possible you're on the wrong fucking job so piss off yeah these protodakers are fucking angry and mean just putting out there hot tank uh universal gift tokens for sheep and dogs hi hey all right i'm gonna go get that health and you can't even stop me i managed to miss both of them good job beef out movies the lego star was holiday special when uh that wasn't really on our list but i mean i'm not against it or anything maybe we'll do it as part of the christmas eve movies or something i mean fucking really i got blown up like an inch away from the health pickup that's that's racism sitting there waiting um also mando now has clones but we don't know if it's snow called palpitism oh great that sounds like fun sure it's just gonna be uh when is spiderman debate that will be released a week from now get excited also what are your top five porn star go-tos hi rags and mohler thank you hi i don't really know any i don't go to porn stars honestly i don't i couldn't name really like any and yeah i think there's a few names i'd recognize if someone was to mention them but i don't really have any go-tos um check out chats takes in relation to it maybe they'll have some stuff that you'll uh you'll be able to recognize slash sympathize with as choices feel bad all the all the all the porn stars names that i just don't remember four people working so hard i'll remember someone like robber downey jr but not porn star names that's the world we're in also yes i did die again but you guys saw that i came close to time before the last time so again there when are we going to get tonal to judge the official e-fap cookoff don't you want to just lie back and let him take you to flavor town yes you know that might just not necessarily be possible at this time i'm sure that if we could make it happen we will die annoying thing you did just a little bit more time all right so this is the um this is the dialogue from mothman and why this should be a temptation for us to go see it okay ready here we go man one it seemed to know everything man two like god it made predictions that came true man one yes he has a name man two it's perception they appear differently to everyone a voice a light a man a monster okay i guess uh that might be a really neat scene who knows uh since we already ruined the ot cast we shall have darth windu with mechanical legs chopped off the hands of the next generation of rebels i mean yeah sure why not let's do darth windu i feel like at this point you're allowed to do anything with star wars because uh someone else already kind of did a whole bunch of everything fuck i'm already torn the shreds that one was way quicker i believe baller i know it's gonna happen eventually believe i all hello hope you're doing well thought it interests you to know that there hasn't been a single tracking fob through four episodes of season two of mando interesting not surprising because anybody who's supposed to anybody should be able to look at those and see the incredible problems that they cause i have a lengthy part of my video that goes into how they basically ruin like all the other star wars stuff that kind of you should not have introduced those so casually shouldn't they be present as fuck though like shouldn't the empire who are very interested in getting baby yoda be trying to get everyone back on the wise page to get baby you know what i mean like it's a miracle that mando so so mando gets a secret job from the empire that turns out it's not so secret in grief in every bounty hunter in the fucking bounty hunter's guild had a tracking fob grief didn't tell mando that every other bounty hunter got one i guess every bounty hunter personally went to the client and got the rundown i guess they didn't get the same payment because he's a manually and or you know which makes sense based on what we know about the client but we have only a single group of like four or five trendosians ambushing him while he's walking back from getting the child and we never see him on the way back to navarro getting jumped by anybody which is like miraculous especially with them not only bounty hunters who are just searching in general but bounty hunters who knew that um baby yoda was in the compound and decided fuck it i'll wait for another bounty hunter to do the hard work if you know what i mean and then i'll attack i feel like there'd be a couple of those types and i know that you could be like yeah well that's who we got attacked by i'd be like surely be more than that i don't know fucking do you see any bounty hunters are on the baby yoda job i like all of them all of the bounty hunters are after a bounty which by the way they say this in the grief sets is specifically in the episode that it's for the greatest treasure this parsec has ever seen yeah and like no one else apparently tries well that's why i'm like what the fuck there's no fobs in season two seems like they would be i mean that because because every time they're not getting jumped by people you'll have to be wondering like how come you're not constantly being just bamboozled by people yeah it makes no sense the tracking farms are a terrible terrible idea so horrible it fucks with so much stuff and it's such terrible writing like the guild is awful mando is a fucking cock and grief is an asshole and mando should think not only he should he hate karga he has a lot of reasons to think that karga is setting him up like your best bounty hunter you say mando's a legend mando is the best best in the parsec mando is the most valuable member of the guild you tell him all these things and so he gets the secret job for the special client for the greatest prize the parsec has ever seen and you don't tell mando that oh yeah by the way we gave the same job to everyone else in the guild they have the same tracking pod to the same thing that you got sent out to do and mando never even tells grief karga that he got ambushed by guild members and they tried to kill him and it was only through plot armor that he survived yeah like it's insane you can go and catch me disagreeing um oh i guess the continued dialogue is mandu if your friend thinks it's god he spoke to he's off by more than a few degrees man one and how do you explain that it knows everything mandu look at that if there was a car crash x blocks away that window washer up there could there probably see it now that doesn't mean he's god or even smarter than we are but from where he's sitting you can see a little further down the road all right i feel like this dialogue is not going to do much for me without context just saying that was worth blowing myself up all um oh wait mace window needs to say i'm tired of these motherfucking siths in my motherfucking galaxy i know right they just refuse to have him say the obvious line that is upsetting okay just fucking run mace you can do oh it's funny this game has a like an r2 unit screaming to signal that you're low on health and it does that even when you're playing as people running around so i just find it amusing that there's actually an r2 unit like inside mace window that is law run mace yeah oh i was mentioned still um spider man one and two are still way better than spider man homecoming and far from home nope no no they want to be i understand they want to be poor home guy getting this homecoming getting shafted like it's the one that probably had the most effort put in in terms of writing but it gets shat on the most one of the most at very least i'd say it gets shat on about as much as fucking tazum films do but that's for good reason just saying do i still love spider man two despite its flaws but southpaw is just a wolf knockoff muesli you know what to do i mean he's he's the important part of what i'd say is is uh appealing about southpaw is the amount of effort he puts into his references do seem to be pretty convincing from what i've heard i have no particular stake or interest in spider man two but examples that i've heard have been pretty convincing yeah he's been pretty reliable in that regard um wouldn't say i mean it's not very nice to call him a wolf knockoff when he's trying so hard to like do what he's doing i don't know about that yeah i don't get where that comes from um i think that if he manages to change a few minds about spider man two uh with his references he's probably done a pretty neat job especially considering he didn't intend to do this at all like it just happened as a result of him giving the script a good look over but uh we already know like all of us that is a it's a quite the take to have you know spider man two not being as good as people say i believe cosmonaut tried that once upon a time and you know how bad he is with references you shall see how southpaw does um i had to share last year my friends and i went to daven busters and witnessed movie bob drinking alone at the bar one of my friends got way too excited to meet him it was an experience lol really i don't believe you it's possible i mean it's possible i i need to admit if this was like another person sure but movie bob going out to a bar i i don't know that seems extraordinary yeah i the part i'm struggling with is someone who's excited to see movie bob so i suppose excitement could still mean a lot of things i would be excited if i saw a movie bob yeah that's kind of what i mean it's like i guess i would be too uh the reason wb redesigned stephen wolf is because they thought he was too scary snider wanted the alien world to be a mix of sci-fi and horror something different than what we see on earth in the films uh that's fine but what i've seen on that promo image was fucking hilarious it looks silly oh boy if this night of cuts is that to be a disaster i'm going to be laughing all the way to the efab movies that we do on it there's something really like when we talk about vulture or zemo they're just normal people essentially yep and that's part of what makes them scary no they're very very relatable and very real and you know they can be ruthless and they're super determined and that kind of adds to how you know terrifying they could be in a way is that they really are just kind of normal people act to be anywhere they could come from any place there's not a fantasy element to them really not to say you can't have threatening fantasy monsters of course absolutely yeah but sometimes they're relatable well uh thanos would of course uh he's like not quite a monster type character i guess stephen wolf isn't either in the justice league movie he like talks and shit but uh he's not like um doomsday in bvs or something like abomination yeah i guess i guess we'll see you know i think chat's probably got a few hypersnider fans and hypersnider haters i like and so it'll be super interesting to see what happens when that comes out which is going to be happening what mid 2021 or something so rags you're gonna have to get a crash course in the dce eu before then you know boy get excited i wish i could i wish i could find the quote but someone was talking about horror in the sense that um like the the scariest place to see a monster is in a very familiar place like your living room oh yeah i know yeah recently i can't remember where it was i wish i could find out where that was from maybe someone in chat can help me i want to have that quote handy because it doesn't if anyone knows where that's from please let me know they're basically saying the scariest place to see a monster is in a familiar place like your living room because it contrasts with a safe and normal place that you're familiar with and it's like it's invading your you know meanwhile seeing your world spooky monster and spooky will is kind of just like that it's like yeah this belongs here this spooky monster belongs in the not that it wouldn't be scary of course yeah not that it wouldn't be scary it's just you can't relate to anything here oh uh something like where it should be i think it was yatsi i think it might have been if that's the case that was yatsi his review amnesia thank you yes i will i'll go back and grab that quote because that's a really good thing to say i'll probably even just get that clip i might even use it something later on i like that observation he told subtleties uh snider recently said on a youtube live stream that he already has plans for justice league 2 and beyond i think at and t put snider back in charge sure i mean that makes some sense and um i would suppose then that the original justice league is getting decanonized like it would have to be right i don't have both of them oh no can't do no not that i mean i nobody's gonna complain about it i'm just curious about how it works and are they gonna let the like general public know this not that they necessarily need to the general probably probably just would go ahead with anything anyway no offense to the general public but i imagine lots of snider fans would be curious about the uh continuity and i didn't get to use my super blasters on them oh rain blast did it uh if people think snider is the worst jj abrams wants to do superman read his synopsis for his leaked superman flyby from 2002 and see what you think listen i think jj is more than capable of being much worse than snider i also think snider is capable of being much worse than jj just gotta hope that both of them are on their egg whenever they do anything though i think it's safe to be incredibly uh like they're just expecting what we've gotten from jj recently to just be what he's gonna do from now on hopefully he can pleasantly surprise us with stuff in the future i don't know same by the way for the snider uh have you seen the trailer for battleman season two watch it i believe there's only a teaser and if there is a trailer released we will probably do an efat mini for it and we'll play the teaser before it as well i'm gonna choose i kind of want to i kind of want to go in just sort of blind and just get you know i mean yeah if you want to do that that's fine i wouldn't blame you i don't know then again it's been a while since i've gotten some quality batwoman content so i don't know i'm assuming chat would be unequivocally looking for us to do a react video to it you know uh but hopefully there's a full trailer that comes out and then we'll we'll we'll decide on that uh midnight's edge predicted will wonder woman 84 would drop on hpo max and they were right they think disney will do the same with black widow dropping it on disney plus but will release like mulan charge $50 thoughts inevitable i suppose uh for a lot of things because they have to release this shit eventually and if covet is not going away or at least the lockdowns and people's versions to go into the cinema are not going away then they're gonna have to release on streaming services i don't really see what other choice to have uh black widow though coming to disney plus i feel like that's going to be a major signal there's a lot of people are saying that about wonder woman right now and i i don't know how much of a difference wonder woman's going to make in terms of the overall vision of theaters but if disney release their next you know mcu project strictly on a streaming service or on both cinema and streaming service i feel like that's going to be quite the um like oh shit i guess the time of cinema has taken a turn not not gone just you know something different's happening and uh i just see that as something that has to happen i guess i don't know because a lot of people see it as like really depressing that cinemas are getting crushed in a way but um i don't know what else we can do yeah and plus the the desire for movies is not going away and people still love the theater experience yeah i don't think they're going to i don't think they're gonna disappear i definitely don't think that probably shut down a chunk of them just through they can't keep them up but i i doubt we'll lose them entirely yeah i mean maybe they'll make a comeback i don't know probably not to the same degree that they were before so yeah this has to be the final level this is so like difficult and grand and spooky um rags you will admit the prequels are good or you will face the consequences uh no the prequels are not good i guess you're gonna face the consequences 500 000 to make this dog go into a fair coat a million alive so i can teach him some manners first oh my god well you do get that you're referencing gamble in the dark night who ended up getting killed by the person he put the bounty on so rags i'm guessing the that means allegorically that you're gonna end up being right about the prequels ultimately oh i think i think i'm gonna be because we got we got our lists and stuff this game clearly this game clearly encourages you to play like pussy i'm just saying guys every time i go for it i just get obliterated every time i stick behind corners and slowly shoot things the game is like oh yeah you're good uh oh spaghetti i demand retribution on rags i assume this is still in relation to your prequel tank no prequels are bad guys prequels are bad appreciate them sure like them yeah but they are not good seems like disney is moving forward with predator five only thing we know is that it's not a direct sequel to the last film what do you expect moeller garbage probably not as bad as um dark i need to duck fate fucking hell uh the predator however it'll probably be bad feel like all of these all of these like series they experience a dark fate yeah because um i've talked about it before but like it's a big wheel that all of these franchises are on and every once in a while the next one has to come up and it's like well it's your time again i can't believe how fast they've done it with the predator but then again that was 2018 what was it 20 that was 2018 i'm pretty sure so yeah it has been but are we coming up to three years since that film came out you fucking kidding me hope not hopefully that's just like two and a half of some shit but yeah i guess it's time for predator to get soiled again i don't know why because did it make money i don't think so or at least i fucking hope not i can't remember neither but like two minutes of dark fate did so badly that everyone's like well that's it for terminator and it's like i swear to god they're going to make another one they'll do it they'll try i mean they'll they might sit on it for a while but oh it lost a lot of money so maybe if we do it this time with john connor because everyone didn't like that he wasn't in the other one it's like you guys fuck up no matter what you do yeah you couldn't do you got you brought back to him to hamilton you got a sports in a year again you got this big old budget you have the huge marketing stuff like man you'll suck i completely agree really feel like it's not too hard to make a successful predator alien or terminator movie but every way you can do it wrong they are they are doing it remember someone mentioned black sails on a previous efab would definitely recommend the show in terms of well-written drama set in a certain period it will definitely scratch that game of thrones itch i don't have a game of thrones itch to be honest with you kind of killed me yeah no more i can't wait to see that just die again um but yeah i've heard a couple people say that black sails is good also also also yes the pirates do grape the wammons in the show so it's no parts the caravan shit it's also four seasons of x episodes max so it shouldn't take too long to get through it yeah i mean it'll it'll be a consideration our black sails you must read the 20 dollar super chat so that rags knows his choices or he'll become my fair coat the choices that would just like the prequels or die i feel like it's not really a choice it seems a little coercive to me i don't think that's a choice i can make freely uh just give me one i'll be right back yep i find it hard to believe that this snail thing has more game than machoke incinero olukario um yeah i mean wait why machoke rather than machamp i am i am curious about that isn't machamp just bigger don't you think he's gonna be able to handle more i don't know i wouldn't want to assume too much about machamp but i feel like it's worth pointing out i realize now that i should save the missiles for when i'm not invincible right chat use as much as these fucking lasers as i can okay i'm gonna use a few missiles jesus christ also this game this game is all right i will say like mechanically it's pretty sound not too complicated but it works pretty well the only issue i'd really take with it is like the random spikes in difficulty and i hate escort missions but ultimately i really feel like that's not the game's fault that i don't like escort missions you know they do what they're supposed to do oh my god say things how's that running chat feeling about this game if you've either played it before or not oh get out of here see i just gotta play like a super super careful careful man you know who the hell likes to escort missions that's true uh do the arena afterwards probably i'm gonna finish the campaign and then we'll probably leave it there okay how many gamecube games have i played on the stream now i don't know how many i've got left in terms of ones i even know i like there's a kid loved it depends on the escort loved it as a kid on foot seems poopy yeah okay yeah i'll agree with that the footwork seems poopy who's meh arena was fun this game is fun looks boring but i've never played it cool loved it all stars games the best you got to play the resident evil remake i probably won't not uh not too into it myself besides i wouldn't play that on dolphin i just play the pc vision yeah fuck y'all is that the clone was the game molly absolute chat this was my shit as a kid please uh people people rag on the prequels but they gave us the best oh yeah i wouldn't say this game is like the best or anything it's fun but i feel like the best might be an exaggeration hey rags what if what if what you've seen of this game what do you think of it it's all right a little bit of nostalgia here in there oh did you play it a long time ago i remember the like this part like i remember the hut and everything in the xbox fuck me i was like i got super blasters i'll nail it and then i died um it looks like the model is not too bad considering yeah it's pretty solid graphics wise for the age and then um mechanically it's fine it's just a little super difficult a lot of time and then anything in terms of human stuff is pretty garbage the vehicle combat works real well like that one broke squadron game where they decided you know what you don't really want to fly around right you want to play our shitty platformer and auto aiming third person shooter yeah like oh nightmare level shit you know oh fuck this i just want to go grab the invincibility and then try and blow everything up at the same time that's an option right game well let me do that there are enough pew pew noises there's a whole bunch don't you lie this is not safe would not recommend there we go all right now to blow everything up my limited rockets so when you run over a droid it just doesn't seem to care holy shit okay right for these tanks and all right i'm gonna go back and make sure i killed the other stuff because if i get ambushed by this shit when i'm trying to push forward it's gonna be a disaster but that worked out well and i kind of did it faster than normal okay um best games also best memes also high rags hi there did you all know that plato was a broad broadman and his deadlift was high enough to have his philosophy considered by the swell philosophers lit doge meme oh wow i didn't know that there's something new every day yeah uh did any of you guys play a game called spartan total warrior it was on ps2 and i believe gamecube no i never played that no i did not jay how do you feel about bill potz gain us in terms of writing or how overt it is i'm assuming that's a doctor who thing yeah i don't know who that is i'm messing about these hey rags hey how's things things are all right things are okay all's well with me things seem to be going okay feeling a little odd i don't know just i don't know tired just feeling a little yeah i'm definitely tired i just feeling odd don't really know how else to describe it like i don't know this kind of feeling a little odd i hope this odd feeling passes assuming it's not preferable yeah this isn't a good odd feeling it's not like i don't know what's a good odd feeling first time you get fucked in the ass yeah there you go it's like whoa i was not wow it's fucking stellar but what an odd feeling that is your body's like that's not no things don't go in there mm-hmm that's not right someone needs to lodge a complaint is like a dude working there little little tiny pill person who's just like whoa this is all wrong files and report with the brain and the brain's like don't worry this is all according to plan uh have you ever had a run-in with pastor quinn he's in little rock and can cure you of the big gay apparently oh goodness um no i have no idea who that is but hopefully you do run into him someday you need that cure you know otherwise you might not end up in heaven and shit not be awful yo yeah i would definitely definitely don't want to pass that up i definitely want to get into heaven hey i have good news for once in my life i've finally gone back into my long man anime review and on the process of redrafting any advice for making a review good oh redraft redraft redraft have be very familiar with the material examples if you can have examples oh even if people don't notice it immediately their their brain notices he said a thing it was instantly backed up by a reference references are so good you know that video we covered today had like no references true you need to have references references are so good have references and make sure they're accurate and done for satisfying whatever you're trying to pull off in your opener if you're like what is the purpose of this video and then make sure you satisfy that you know what you want to do fucking that up oh my goodness for example with extra credits he was clearly trying to get across why it's bad to have games that have status in them and he failed fucking miserably yeah a bad job i know in my script the way i'm writing it in my script is i have little denotations for when instead of me saying something it's a clip of the character in the show saying it yep stuff like that this fucking tough this bit is you know it's fucking six hellfire droids suddenly what i do is is that try and destroy a base big what anyone can destroy a base oh here comes more no fucking game you're gonna trap me uh rags two choices like the prequels or i make you into a fair coat wow he's really really i think he just wants a fur coat yeah i mean just go get a fur coat man you know you don't need to do the rags the prequels are bad guys the prequels are really bad like i appreciate them they're really great to me i have so many prequel memes on my computer but guys they are written very poorly they're bad don't do it let's go back from watching parasite with my mom love it as i knew she would thank you for giving me a good answer about spider man two and the reference you gave i never thought about it that way question what's better spider man two are homecoming oh i'm coming homecoming destroys most of the live action spider man films i'm afraid homecoming homecoming is real good a lot of work went into homecoming y'all pretty sexy script in terms of how tight it is uh not to say that it is flawless also fuck me why why are there so many evil things um and by the way i used to be uncertain of that answer to that question but after many of the references i've been given by southpaw i kind of feel like i just being honest it's obvious which one is the uh tire script now and who knows what the answer will be once he gets uh his video done which i'll surely check out out of interest um say the dream ask medium d or capital the seven question we did we did we got our answers what's your top five what's your five top ten trilogies table uh trilogy rings yeah definitely all the rings um if they count as trilogies the captain america trilogy oh yeah i was just about to say that yeah i i like the first one i mean i like them all mm-hmm they've got tism civil war is phenomenal ye winter soldier is a solid five out of ten um oh please don't blow me up oh my god that was too close and i really like the first one captain america the second avenger now yes because we couldn't just sleep well enough fucking alone could we marvel uh did you know henry from bly was elliot and et i did know that i did not know that i haven't seen et and i saw it like once and i hated it um i didn't hate it i just didn't think that much all of it yeah i just like oh that's fucking i don't fucking want to watch kids in an alien it's just not endearing or funny unless they're getting killed by the alien i don't care i fucking hate movies about like kids wow like it's it's so tough for me to give a shit do you ever watch um stranger things oh fuck me please tell me about your point i'm gonna be so upset but the but the fact that it's about a bunch of kids really turns me off of it i just fucking hate him um well i thought season one was pretty good maybe we could do that at some point i can take you on the journey that is the death of stranger things because it starts at i heard it got really bad yeah i started i heard it starts off good but um it gets really really bad that's what i heard cap is will war two captain marvel is in the 90s yes but cap isn't an avenger yeah um he made the avengers because of captain marvel's he's called the first avenger in reference to like how he's of the members oh shit yeah but unfortunately captain marvel did a little uh recontextualizing of that let's say yeah you could still say he's the oldest well he's the oldest yeah but technically you won't be forever she was the she was the cause of its inception she was the first they didn't need to do that but they did it it's so fucking totally unnecessary unwarranted in every imaginable way but they couldn't just leave well enough alone i mean the whole reason shield existed they retconned i sense the dark side growing in power imagine how good captain marvel too is going to be also wow i got resettance whole fucking mission okay i'm gonna do it kill myself run while i just go really fast i talk about this if you guys want to watch it again maybe my frown table response goes into the issues that captain marvel has like quickly and here's where references come in handy i play clips from like four different marvel movies and somehow avoided copyrighted yeah oh i actually got a copyright strike uh it was either early this morning or last night it was on a really old video a pc gaming video and it was for uh because i used the hustle in it and it got a copyright strike and it's been like three four years so that's interesting but hey it'd be like that it do sometimes you just that's happened every once in a while a really old video just gets a copyright strike that's totally valid because it's just a song that i use at the time because i didn't care this weird it was like you're like okay i guess that's that so i just like sped through to the part of the game where i usually am at and feel really weird right now i don't think i should be here or at least i shouldn't be alive i think i'm gonna be here for a while shooting things it's probably my fate now uh jay is the true heresy table heresy medium d seven everyone's so very passionate about this oh my only spot could speak to us and tell us the truth he probably knows gene real well he had an affair with him got an army of sports a squammy a squammy you say uh hey rags hey all my way to watch the movie we don't talk about uh drinker broke the rule recently although is be the reason i'm watching it again oh hi mola what movie we don't have to watch maybe yeah that could be it but i i'm not allowed to watch i don't know if there's a is there one that's just oh maybe that yeah that could be a two i don't know yeah i i legit actually don't know what they're referring to oh it's probably fight club because drinker made a recommends for it okay there you go oh this is the way the cake is alive we can agree on this at least seven and then smug face i don't think they can't agree on that unless they're a seven person you know i'm glad that we can call them seven in table so people know what i'm talking about rags i think blimeyna is absolute garbage and attack the clones is borderline masterpiece roast me i mean obviously nothing that i could say to you on stream could possibly compare compare with probably all the all all the stuff that happens in real life of people making fun of you and mocking you for your terrible pastes so what i say is it'll never amount to anything that you probably get in real life what are you gonna do tell your friends i don't think so your parents now you're adopted there you go that's the truth they even said like you gotta do it and and moriarty isn't here to help you avoid doing it like problem though rags isn't avoiding it he feels as though you've roasted yourself what is he supposed to do jay tell them how wrong their eyes are in regard to seven they choose not to see the form that seven was conceived in propaganda to their false idol i mean jay tried they really did i mean it's clearly isn't symmetrical so yeah that's it barbara it's barbara not symmetrical i don't know what else to say like clarification on that particular element that's what we've done that's what jay gave i have to see how the war rages on uh do not listen to the lies lord to table old created gene table he has i guess that's gene uh has intended and when gene married spot it created table let them wed there's some complicated law i will say that's pretty usual we're gonna get involved in that family drama i know better than that i feel like it just doesn't concern me you know until sport asks me for some help with it i think i'm just gonna keep my head down all right fuck this particular area of murdering me okay never mind i'm out he's just christ um hello long man honest question what's your most and least favorite things about the chat i'm all a think face what um so the least favorite would probably be if they run away with an assumption based on something that was said that isn't true as in like something is said that might imply a certain position then everyone starts arguing against that position and then people be at me or rags or whoever is like wait what why is everyone responding to that i didn't say that um and the reason that's frustrating beyond just a misunderstanding is because a lot of people in chat can then assume that is the position because why else would people be responding to it that can be annoying um but the thing i love the most about chat hmm probably the sense of community and the jokes they can come up with although how useful they are references there's lots of things to like about chat you know you guys are a bunch of sillies i appreciate you for it is that invincibility give me give me give me give me give me have any thoughts on that right on our chat yeah like best and worst elements um i'd say the worst elements is how uncharitable they could be with interpretations i guess yeah my was misunderstandings but that totally applies to um i would also i'd say the best part is that they're generally really supportive certainly like financially i mean i do want to bring it up that's a huge deal and it is incredible that they do that that's extremely generous absolutely we're very very fortunate to have a chat that can support us in a very tangible way but they're generally pretty quick on they're very knowledgeable when i'm when i like when i when i'm asking for a reference or they're pretty quick to pick up on that stuff and help us out and they give us a little neat fun facts here and there that's nifty they're a very um they're very useful you know it's very useful kind of chat to keep your eye on i always keep an eye on it whenever we do any fat because you could pick some stuff up and sometimes you know they have corrections and sometimes bad arguments that you know i suppose it's a result of having as many people as we do in there but i just like that we often will have at least one person who is of a particular um experience be it for example hunting or um do you know how specifically our cars work i'm referencing guns even though you're here but i just you know that would be another one or medical yeah law you know there's always somebody who's like oh yeah yeah yeah this this this this noise and useful yeah and then arguments that we might miss uh can be popped in chat and we'll be reminded from the oh shit that too and yes guys i died on this level many times it's because i'm very good at this game and it proves that it is very bad mechanically nothing to do with my lack of patience when i get further and further along to think if i rush this part i'm sure to win it's the monkey brain gotta gotta keep it beaten down into the ground that sort of thing molla you and rags are so right-wing that you play minecraft with hitler wombo wombo minecraft with hitler oh no that would be fun they're gonna i think most people will build a wall around germany damn it's weird how after all this time i still can play minecraft yeah after all this time i can still play star wars the clone wars you know much like minecraft i am like i wish there was a there was a way for me to know how many hours i've spent minecraft i'd be curious i always wanted to know what my like total hours is and games on gamecube like i wonder how long i've played super mario sunshine in total now across all your systems or whatever dropping off supplies took fucking time oh that's what is invincibility oh no no and this whole fucking war is going oh no there's two clones you can do it guys i believe in you this sort of doing it god i don't know what the ai is on this shit okay these just background or these actual entities fuck they look weird um please do robocop for efab movies also high rags hey there it's another one that i don't know if it would work or not fucking attacking me from all the racism i speak english in chat for 50 episode you guys don't notice me i speak japanese once a ton of attention concussion efab is racist or what english yeah let's say so we don't like to speak it it's one of those naughty languages as you can tell we were all speaking american it's very different how much do i have a bunch i started to play it a whole lot recently um i have 1280 hours in apex legends noise and yeah we're fucking clapped in that game i really really like it i think it's a really well designed uh shooter um i play i got a i'm in a couple servers where we just group up and play um so yeah don't be surprised if you see a lot of apex legends footage and some of these dog bite videos that'll be popping up i've saved a bunch my i most of i i used to be a lifeline main but then i started playing with someone who really really likes lifeline and i'm fine with swapping and i've been playing mirage lately and really really liking mirage mirage is very underappreciated he's really good hardly anyone plays him and even fewer people play him well actually the stream apex nah probably not i love dinosaur as a kid in fact it's the last super chat i've sent on e-fap first super chat it's the first super chat i've sent on e-fap though haven't seen it for a while i think it holds up pretty well j i assume that means the the first one they sent regarded dinosaur or just dinosaurs in general because that would make sense okay yeah i got you yeah i got what you're saying yeah all right rags my question about dinosaurs objective quality was the first super chat sent it was the big $500 super chat on e-fap 100 there you go and feels bad because i've not seen it but i wouldn't be able to say or at least i don't either i didn't see it or i don't remember it it's one of those two um i'm 99 percent sure you skipped my $20 super chat so remember some of these coming after mine if you're the one that said you wanted rags to be turned into a fair coat i definitely said it he's heard your proposition and he he maintains that uh the prequel is bad that's that's the lingo getting thrown around you know that's the thing if you're getting threatened to be turned into a fair coat you're still gonna kind of push through on those principles i think it's got him yeah j what the puck invite them to ah i'm sure we'll get there eventually medium d speaks so you're an auto didact with a didact is that like the study of dialect or something uh maybe maybe someone who does that study too hard too hard to think about big words agreed dude it's a scary give me that awful man rockets do you can give your squad orders using the d-pad mooper i've found the regroup so keeping them near me seems to be the kind of one of the most optimal because this just means that they'll help me kill anything that's near me unless i've misunderstood that and they just don't shoot at all in which case that would be pretty sad off all right there we go see this is the slow and steady way which will give us some bonuses but not all of the bonuses let's let's activate them and go get our super charge at medium d speaks you should come on with chase face sometimes you guys will have a great time together i'm sure of it when you get him on ask him if he doesn't like minorities but chase face gets along with everyone what's so wonderful about him even minorities when he's forced to mean or eat these welcome up super blasters there you are all right let's get enough that's like the best we've ever done in this sequence because of the super hot covid-19 takes from each of you uh the one snowflakes don't like i don't think i said anything hot i chill the fuck out don't let it control your life don't let it don't live in fear i'm trying to think of what i said about kovat now all i said was just like i'm pretty sure i'm about cinemas was that i can't remember anymore don't let your government use co covid as an excuse to take away your rights yeah um what australia is doing right now i'm still gonna bring you about it that shit's fucked up you can't even go outside or whatever if wasn't it like he said you can't even go outside to exercise you can go outside for um that's fucked up man damn i guess you got to run on the spot folks like around here you tell people around here that they can't go outside oh they're gonna give you a stinker not around here you have the right to you have rights and don't let don't let the government take those away because of covid not saying covid's like not anything but like fuck we're setting a pretty goddamn low bar for the government to say oh yeah we're just gonna suspend your fucking rights yeah the um whole saram rap or cling filming products and superstores wales that's also it's not like that's the thing it shouldn't be binary right it shouldn't be lockdown or not it should be maybe take care with the kind of lockdown you're doing that's all some people are doing some crazy things or at least it seems that way uh du you're a smarticle right is water wet oh he did answer that yeah he's roll at medium d you helped rags his case and he hasn't even noticed tusk tusk rags was busy you can't expect him to pick everything oh yeah before i forget i sent a super chat i think 55 episodes ago asking if smash was in the cards is that close to becoming a thing or nah um there was like potential at one point i don't see it as likely anymore uh though it's not impossible you know honestly the next like co-op gaming thing we're probably going to do is very likely going to be halo um with how easy it is to set up and how we both have a familiarity with it and how i think uh viewers would be very much interested in seeing us play through the halo campaigns i think that's a shoe in you know and then we can play the uh the new one by the time we get through them all right rags yeah that sounds fun gaming halo infinite we can give it a big old judgy eye maybe even play it with fringy because he likes halo and uh metal probably the fourth that makes sense they usually do four player campaigns now right that's like a common thing we'll play a co-op i mean like i i assume i don't know yeah i'm not sure how that would work um take a step back and literally fuck your own face that's tom cruise tropic thunday out sorry youtube wouldn't let me say the f-word but that's my favorite quote of his from that movie yeah yeah that's a good scp 1776 is alex jones i can't believe it he's a force of nature rags will you like the prequels while i make you into a fair coat they're really i like the prequel i like parts of them yeah i like things about them i would say i like the prequels i just don't think they're good i would probably say that too i would say that i like the prequels i don't think of watching them as a horrible eculean task i see it as like a hey this could be fun hey watch the prequels yeah have fun with the memes and the lines and stuff thank you good holy mother of god the selection of a t's killed me i guess there was a spider droid in the background too i was doing so well that time they really give me a checkpoint just one that'd be nice um i haven't even played re5 and still think she absolutely stunning bodacious also at medium d speaks thoughts on black panther i think he thinks it's really good not strong he said he made a video on it i guess that would tell you what he thought of it uh medium d speaks favorite anime i'm a basic weeb and i love full metal alchemist brotherhood oh i think it's pretty good too is that the is that the non-weeb choice full metal alchemist brotherhood maybe 1776 will commence again i'm assuming you saw that uh piaz morgan interview rounds all or i'm guessing he's not here um wait what i'm sorry oh uh you saw the um the interview between alice jones and piaz morgan right no i haven't the one where i assume you must have because it was everywhere all over the internet when it came out the one where he's like 1776 will commence again oh i've heard of that yeah i'm great it sounds great uh you you guys should play out of wilds it's on steam and it's very much worth the purchase yeah oh yeah i've heard my autistic friend actually autistic not an insult loved knives out and had me watch it uh i told him everything wrong with it and more he changed his mind a bit he still liked it but less yeah plus the thing a film like that when you realize all of the stupid shit in it it makes it a little harder to enjoy i would say because all the payoffs rely on broken fucking logic that is a terrible movie i'm gonna make that video one day rags talking about guns makes me do big coom hello mohler hello rags and the other two guys in evap right now love your content the goons hmm oh they were just saying hi i think oh hello now mohler i understand that your attention is divided but the mission keeps failing because you're not taking out the mortar tank on the ridge those things melt the acclimate her i met i i capital opinions picked up on that and got me right through the episode the mission did part we did it now we're stuck in something else that probably has a really easy answer that i'm missing because you gotta be reading them then see the chance out tell more about the mortar on the ridge and to destroy it oh yeah they're there uh the one part of re4 that i found to be problematic was where chris shouted shiver come on man are you a junkie oh my god wow i hope she isn't i hope she's okay i didn't even know the addiction is a real problem before it must have been a bonus room pretty neat though nice camera s o t l has a lot of the same problems s o t l what's that s o t o s o colon t l s o colon t i think this is a time when chats can i have to give me the answer yeah i don't remember s s o cool i don't know so speck ups the line uh that's probably it has a lot of the same problems the last two has when it comes to player agency especially with the big one but speck ups the line is a much better job with the illusion of choice by actually providing choice yeah um i think that works probably a lot better for the kind of thing they were going for in that game thank you chat blank on that uh table heads anakin noises you turn bail in against me table moi obi one noises you've done that to yourself the wall rages on i'm so glad that i don't have like any stake in this fight where it's going yeah so we don't have to heckle all the super chats we can just be like all right you fight for what you believe is right chat don't let anyone tell you any different uh every e-fap is on your hard drive is it a computer um i've got a couple hard drives and funnily enough i had to do a lot of moving around to fit in a new one after a e-fap 100 when i decided to take care of ones well yeah that way to go um they're quite big this is my point but it was just funny because i moved the mole to like a super backup drive you know took the fucking ages because i think i told you was like it was coming up to a terabyte with um which isn't small but it may sound small i don't know i don't know if you remember but i've previously recommended medium d speaks his black panther video on a previous e-fap you know the video he's so proud of to be e-fapped and determined of its high quality or not oh my god um yeah i mean i haven't seen it but who knows the very people who guessed upon e-fap might have made videos that we very e-fappers would consider e-fappable they never know where they're where they're waiting oh jeez delivering supporting soldiers in this fight isn't that a little more scary okay i'm going to use this now just to get through this part of the level long rax played at space three yeah that would be a pretty good um oh yeah that's a pop game that's another one that's high on the list i'd say the only reason i want to do the halo one is all the things i mentioned plus the fact that we can simultaneously play halo infinite and then have e-faps on a halo infinite as a result if you know what i mean oh yeah yeah i think it doubles up pretty well maybe maybe mola would the last of us two still be a 10 out of 10 if you actively actually had to torture norah to get abbey info would that satisfy the sadists out there um so first of all these are satisfying someone if they didn't involve that because they thought it would be too much or whatever if we could ignore whether or not they would include something because of ratings i actually think that would have been a pretty good addition to the game to give you options to torture norah choice in video games what just to can you bring yourself to cause this person that much pain to get the information you want and maybe have some kind of mechanic that works that way like there's several results of that sort of sequence and they could even involve you need to keep her alive like it's just what we were talking about you couldn't really make a fucking powerful sequence out of that but i feel like games have got a long way to go before we're bold enough to be doing stuff like that looking some people think the last two is bold it ain't they might satisfy the sadists uh also because i just remembered rags what vision a day z did you play i thought most people played the og armor two mods because the standalone was going standalone started out as total fucking garbage when the standalone came out it was garbage it has one of those troubled lengthy mysteriously shocking developments of any game that i have any i'd know of um right now like it's good it's good now it runs pretty well it's not nearly as buggy yet the performance is quite good it looks pretty darn good a lot of the controls have been smoothed out and it's been it's a lot more friendly ui wise um there's a lot of mod support and custom options for it but fucking hell when that game came out it was it was a smog horrors i remember the great barizino apple orchard wars to point i forget which experimental it was where food just like wouldn't spawn for whatever reason so people would run to this particular apple orchard that was somewhat near the spawn zone there's this big apple orchard outside of barizino um and people would just like have these massive fist fights there because that was the only source of food was just searching for apples in these apple orchards it was it was kind of it's weird like the game is shit but it creates these really weird scenarios in the game that you kind of remember and i have a lot of stories in my head a lot of a lot of fond memories of playing this broken ass game a lot of memories a lot of enjoyment but oh it's like loving a bad movie oh i know that feeling yeah holy i left five hours ago am i still going yeah well we're funnily enough close to the cap but we're also close to finishing superchats so um my reason for wanting you to eff up these did these did these vid is because he called me an elaborate troll for criticizing it and i've got a suspicion that he deleted my last comment on the vid though it could be susan oh that sounds like something we want to get involved in oh fuck yeah uh navi sounds hey chat favorite anime ever in terms of writing oh that was a question for chat from darth gene creme vader oh gene creme uh also favorite guilty pleasure anime that you know is trash so you're gonna have to label which is which for the for the for the super chat but level the same mines fma brotherhood for favorite anime and naruto for something you know is trash but level the same there you go i yeah i don't i don't i don't think i i didn't stick with any of the bad animes that's the thing oh enemies i didn't like the most i berserk i guess i got through i i think i i suffered through two episodes of that and i was fucking done and i in it apparently that's the good one but fucking hell i just could not get through more than two episodes fucking done and we had to shoot me from so far away it's bullshit you don't get it right i can't i'm sure the berserk defense squad will be out in force but oh definitely berserk's very uh very loved yeah but i gave it a try i really did i gave that shit two whole episodes and it was just i couldn't i will say you know buff your shit for like two seasons so um it's it's just funny to think about yeah uh though of course the season you're talking about um it's only one season uh at least the tight like the specific one you would have been watching i think biggo i have faint memories of biggo i don't know if it's good or not but i have i remember that how do you play daisy standalone not often at all but i'll play it in spurts i'll play it like chunks like i'll play it a bunch and then i'll just not play it anymore and then i'll get back and do it and play it a bunch uh is single story or two story a better a or a i have no fucking clear what you mean by that is single story or two story a better what i don't know is single story or two story a better are you trying to say like is a single plot story or one with two better i maybe we're talking about buildings i guess i prefer two story building you have most time i i don't need much space and i don't want much space i've got a pretty spacious studio apartment that's pretty nice and i don't want anything bigger i just don't want a lot of space space encourages me to accumulate shit and i don't want to do that i like i like small ish space that's not even i can't even call this small but i i don't want like a lot of space i will feel the i'll feel like it's wasted and i'm not paying for it because i'm gonna want to fill it with stuff and things i think that's fair yeah i agree with that actually um if i can get everything i want in one floor then yeah i don't mind having one if that is at all i've got a i've got a nice loft but it's it's just kind of hanging it's just more space i just don't i don't want stuff i think after i moved i was just like i just don't want to look all this shit all this stuff i accumulate so much stuff and so i've been pretty careful to not accumulate and gather a bunch of crap because it's a hoarder no i'm the opposite no i'm the opposite of a hoarder i do not have much stuff at all i mean i've got my things but it's not that much this one says another one for chat but for games so now he wants you to answer uh what your favorite games are and then what games you love but know a shit will you watch wonder girl first latinx super show oh wow wonder girl that sounds new i don't know what if that's fucking cw okay batwoman is our is our girl all right we're sticking with her she's our favorite you have four different ar-15s yeah guns are not like their guns are easy to move it's not like furniture plus my guns are not actually here most of my guns are not actually here where i live i mean an ar-15 is what seven they're probably they probably average it out at around seven and a half pounds each maybe eight with all the stuff on them that's not that much you know i um extra credits forgets that the vast majority of games of a progression system violence is the easiest one to apply so a lot revolve around that version of it um extra credit seems to forget why people fucking play games one of those common things just chilling out and having fun the idea that like the commonality for violent games to prevent you from potential punching someone is fucking weird it's not impossible or anything not at all just strange that that's the first place you go to that's all well so yeah you guys killed me last time not risking it this time you gotta work harder for your what was he saying resident evil work work hard for your meal to the zombies i think yeah he's like we're gonna make you work he's basically he's like now i'm gonna make y'all work for it where's i'm like yeah all right look you go people zombies alone yes i don't need each other yeah whoop uh tyt joker review 194 up 11k down yikes my dude oh that is quite the fucking ratio wow that's bad joker hates black women best opener to any review desperate desperation to make everything about race such a mind-blowing opening because most people just like wait what the fuck are you coming from just like i don't fantasize is about having a black woman as a girlfriend yeah objectifying here's what you mean by that uh this is immediately like uh uh shoot it better next time well considering it was an 18 sorry a 180 200 yard shot i'd say it was a good enough one the problem was the trail led to a patch of long grass it was difficult to spot the blood spit also fun fact oh wait on the bright side if we don't find it i can still use my buck tag on a different buck so there's that i don't know i feel like it's kind of on you to you know see it through you know yeah gotta be careful i guess get the the best humane uh kill your can i suppose uh and have you thought about joining the army if no why i don't want to fucking join the army um no and it's mostly because i think i'd have an issue with like taking orders from people taking instruction um i think it's i don't think my personality would gel well it's not because i don't think i would do well um it's just that i don't think that i'd be a good fit for it i have zero desire to do what is typically done in relation to army type things just there's just nothing there for me that i would find engaging yeah i i give back in uh to my country and other in other ways and i have and i shall continue to oh my god have i finally made it to whatever the end of my b of this map um i rags i mola you've infected my youtube went on autoplay all my subscribers it only plays your star wars rage videos that must be weird to go to sleep too but you know hey if it works oh good it's a boss fight uh on the right side if we don't find oh wait i read that already uh also fun fact you're essentially red green color blind their eyes are more sensitive to blue wavelengths they also lack a uv filter so to them the color orange would look brown or gray yeah that's uh that's an advantage that we have for wearing or because we because when we go hiking we've been wearing orange on our on you know someplace on us but yeah they can't see orange as orange so for us orange is very bright and easy to see how advantageous so hunter's vests and such are uh you know orange and that's all right here x what do you think of the name side on pracks sounds very star warzy star trek it sounds more star trekky than warzy i think but you know it's a space name yeah i'd say it's good enough i looked at it first like is that edgy or is that fine side on uh side on pracks yeah it's all right i think pracks is better than side on yeah pracks yeah yeah what's the name of the one from also unleashed like something like that my brain is not interested in trying to remember it right now also this is a shit boss not that he's terrible in terms of damage he's not like the worst thing ever but probably should have killed it fuck me is that really gonna no it's the end of the game please be the end of the game please tell me i did well wow you want to be over all of the great shit how much help does he have on the health bar that it's not because i'm not liking the game i kind of do like it it's just that it would fit really well with the end of the stream if it was to end now yeah um okay it's probably not the end of the game because there's a huge horrible monster thing sitting up oh no besides you heard master go to mola stream gta san andreas or four or koto two not one um you know i'm you never know what exactly will will be on the stream oh shit i'm fighting the dark reaper rax oh geez wow that is defeat the dark reaper yeah i know right wow so you just like strafe left and right and shoot at him pretty much i'd say the big weakness of this game is there's not much um variety and avoiding damage you mainly just strafe yeah this would be a game that would benefit a lot from a more top-down style almost like bullet hell things where there are zones that you have to avoid zones that are areas of attacks that you have to avoid they do that sometimes kind of a dodge function they better regenerate these uh these helps don't know if doing well but hoping mutually raggleton go to bed love grandma also hi rax oh hi there oh soon soon soon hopefully soon i'm running on fumes here but we're still trucking you can bring back to christ filib back from the dead for one last role do choose uh do choose for him to be gandalf he plays voldemort or appears in efab 200 with donald trump and nicolas cage i mean i think he would i think he would want to act so i'd be very tempted to choose gandalf because i know he wanted to do it and that would strictly be my reasoning the selfish choice would more so be uh him coming on efab though i would fucking love that i think that i think that christopher lee would want to spend this this second chance of his doing the thing that he loved i i couldn't i don't think i could take that away from him okay i know that he wanted to do it i don't know how he would gel with donald trump and nicolas cage like what would he talk about you know i feel like we would be able to help him out in that no matter what we would get something to work for him sure yeah but i feel like i think no enough with the giant laser so i can just drive in this stuff and it doesn't kill me okay give me that health back oh i don't know if these regenerate but if they i'm just happy that they probably do can you give me a weak spot giant horrible monster thing so it just homes in on you with a laser and yeah it's kind of fucking annoying but as long as i can kind of you need i need boost to be ready to do it all hail johnny dep that's fair enough though he's been he's not going to be in the pirates film that's going to be rebate not that he necessarily would have been regardless he's also getting booed out of fantastic beast just like oh big fucking gay man that is just a big gay oh no i don't think there's any more health in the map i might be fucked at this point please stop hurts you dark reaper it says you only have one dot left to kill though i think i've got two more turrets to blow up three i'm sure three i guess i'm not sure what happens when i destroy them but um there's no more health spawning so i'm pretty sure i'm fucked unless there's a way to dodge the laser that i've not been doing isn't fair the lasers go get me oh my god i held out somehow please die what we got to fucking use the laser straight away that's not fair you like your spider man uh by the way have you heard the guy who drew a big titty Mando despite Anita sarkeesian no oh don't get on him doing the lord's work absolutely uh i'm a massive tcw fan if Ahsoka appears in Mando season two i might just lose it disney's gonna kill her through overexposure just like they did to mole uh there's a good chance of that yeah um gonna be interesting for us to check it out because if i know anything about Ahsoka please go away mr laser can i please shoot the enemy now game destroy the harvester bays really i don't have any rockets left why does this thing just have many tears of things to destroy final boss oh please don't activate laser please don't activate laser come on what what am i supposed to do constantly save all my rockets for that part i guess that's the clue um what's the e-fab hosts and current guests favorite song do you have a favorite song rings i don't know like generally no i guess that they come and go like jupiter by gustav holst is one that has been really liking a lot but like every it just changes all the time it's not like a favorite movie or anything like that songs are really fluid in the way that they just appear and reappear and whatnot um yeah i got all kinds of different songs i end up liking a lot i've never really considered one to be like a constant favorite i can teach you to also apparently the dark reaper can teach me how to harness the force around me which i reckon it's like a time what now the dark reaper tells me that it can help me harness the force around me sounds kind of tempting wow um you reckon it would you reckon it would play how is it gonna do is it gonna reap all the force around it so i don't remember this probably because you're not a true stylist fan right so i thought about that well who are you playing as i think i'm gonna make a window or it'll be one i don't fucking know oh wow you just tank you know just being in a tank you should have just been some guy i might be some guy i've really been paying attention if i'm honest some guy i feel like some guy being tempted by the force would be a lot more interesting than someone who already has the force being tempted with the force this boss is gay i'm putting it out there mainly the laser thing right there i said it that's my hot tank for the day um love this game do revenge or the sith game next um so that's not on gamecube but it is on the ps2 and um if i can get that emulation working i might be able to do just that so i'm gonna grab some more rockets maybe i can escape the laser if i just keep harshly using the boost i seem to be working right there so maybe that'll that'll be it me target please oh wow those turrets are fucking me up maybe this boss is easier than i thought when i just did really bad the first time around there's a possibility i hate college release college too oh you hate college you want college too i don't know how long they're gonna take before they you know get that out there but yeah i hope it's good all you can do is buy dlc no no no no no laser how am i not dead yeah i'm dead thank you um thank you mola now next question what are your least and least favorite things about movie bob no typos least and least there is no best um i guess they're all horrible his extreme malice for anybody that exists that he doesn't agree with that's probably not a plus um also i'm 25 minutes from the cap yeah i know we're on it yeah there's nothing to like about movie bob so my least favorite things are probably just how much he represents the horrors of what humanity can reach when they're filled with fucking insanity or hatred i guess my deep answer okay i need a rocket you don't unlock the turret portion of this fucking thing as soon as possible i was probably ill advised good fellas or casino probably good fellas from my memory do like them both gonna kill me isn't it cool i'm gonna let my shield regenerate um efab good movies the last action hero that's one that could probably be working efab movies actually it's a fun little one all right give us see that rags below how pretty short the way the premise goes is a a kid gets trapped inside like a movie we're all schwarzenegger is like the action hero and the rules in it don't quite work well the rules of the world are odd compared to ours of course all right the fun neat little movie also child dances in it oh my goodness that's obviously a plus well give me the tarts cannons i am targeting the reaper's cannons i'm gonna do stuff i'm clearly doing uh is this that song yeah it is it's a japanese meme so you gotta sing it a doke i don't have to do shit so yeah you do you have to they send us money you have to sing it oh salk a demo you gay mon i e o mo e de ga baka me tie that's that's not very good i feel like you should sing it for the super chat well you see um that's just not how it works you know if if that's how the world works i think people would be requesting a lot more crazy shit i feel like that it was in the spirit of the of the super chat that you've seen out maybe i need it for a meme that's how i did the subversion of not singing it at all you're probably turn that into music as well with this music i mean you could but it just wouldn't be the same you know see it would be bad go i don't even know i don't even know who wouldn't have been able to tell that those were the lyrics no i i i i i was scrolled up and i got the thing that posted i forgot how it goes well it's see it's all complete they got there i think from it i'm destroying the harvest of bays i'm so close to winning again but i'm probably gonna lose miserably harvester bane disregard my smash super chat you play halo i forgive oh there you go there you go fuck me i'm out of moral rockets give them a ruckus i like the constant lasers like the fucking end boss if i need that shit die okay uh don't know what part of australia fringy lives but over here in the qld part of australia there's nothing too restricting in terms of kovat oh for more he told me it sounded fucking nightmarish he's an adelaide i believe it's a big old chungus but still watch the video titled blade runner 2049 is the best sequel of all time by a matter of film it's not the heck in main plot means nothing at the end i mean that film is kind of shitty i'm gonna be honest with you oh oh there i said it controversy also we're really close to that time limit and we've i think i'm at the end of the game i'm almost done my super chance running close to my fuel limit bazooka is more beloved for the manga don't fret rags there you go wow they look great they do they look amazing moly you massive i said it is a computer oh his face oh my god his face oh no oh rags he looks gorgeous fucking gorgeous uh is optimus prime republican sure i don't know maybe maybe he's red right he's red and blue so i think he's more red than blue though there might be he's a fucking centrist when i'm smaller did you make rags watch all the taiwan scenes a lot of them yeah a lot of ones the fucking boss so true you would have you would have beaten the shit out of denier it's okay it would have been great bam bam bam you want to put the catapults where stop playing the music game people can't be doing that shit copyright uh when do you think you'll be reading out streamlabs donations from today's stream in the eventual catch-up you mentioned earlier also hi reagan mom uh hello i can't know for sure i will drag grab them and they will be the first thing read on the next catch-up rags and i will probably do that on a possible wednesday so it'll be the first thing on the next catch-up then it'll be 103s finished off and i'm pretty sure that'll take us to like a full stream and then we'll try and do a full stream for the boys ones uh have you thought about teaching media studies at a university moeller fuck no i want to do what we do i don't want to be a teacher in a university yeah i can handle teenagers fucking around no fuck that what latino wonder girl what the hell every vision of her has been white what in rubies acting are you doing cw see it's cw why would we go anywhere near it batwoman is the only one we're willing to tip totoe and um and oh my god rags that was nice singing good doggo oh wow thanks there you go i actually i actually think i'm an okay singer it's just that is it's just off the top of my head i'm okay i guess and uh that's it we have caught up we are under the time limit and i completed a full game cube game in the catch-up i hope you guys enjoyed star wars the clone wars that was it wow uh it's okay it's it's all right it's it's a little undercooked but the idea is there and the execution is all right um and yeah so in terms of things that are coming up next saturday you will see the release of uh the spider man debate that we had with thought theater and marcus with southport sort of chilling and uh taking in bits and bobs here and there there's a meme fab on the way that might come soon after who knows uh the next non mainline episode thing you'll see is gonna be little hope as soon as it allows itself then me and rags finishing off resident evil five then the tonal defab gaming and if you want to access any of these just check the announcements in the discord you'll find all the links will be present there um and i'm working on my boy's video and rags is working on his mandalorian video and that's about it anything else you wanted to say before we jump away ranks don't thank you all so much for the very kind donations the supportive messages the hanging out with us for as long as you have and uh we will get to the uh the mist super chats in future it will shall happen rather than that it's time to have a nice little sleep eh you'll you'll have a good night and then we'll see you around boy Suzuki Kawasaki Honda racism oh my goodness