 The People's Democratic Party, PDP, says the lingering feud between Governor Eisen Thaler of Benno State and leaders of the all-progressive Congress, APC, in the state has vindicated its sustained outcry over the misrule of the president of the administration in the state. The party in a statement by its state publicity secretary, Benba Iotium, noted which shock that the crisis that deteriorated so badly that the National Assembly caucus of the party pushed President Bola Tinumbu to intervene in the matter. In the full glare of the global press, eleven out of the twelve members of the Benway, APC National Assembly caucus were present and took tons, raising very grave concerns over Governor Elias' manner of governance, ranging from authoritarian and emergency style running of the affairs of government without regard for due process. The rule of law, or concentration and inclusivity in decision making as well as corruption and mismanagement of public resources. I said it was indeed a crying shame to see the Governor Benway state called out in such a bismarly low manner and with such sudden details. Joining us is the Chief Press Secretary to the Governor, Hai Sindhalia, Thaiso Kulas and Publicity Secretary Daniel Ihumu. Hello gentlemen, welcome to Plus Politics. How are you all up on this segment? Okay, how would you want to respond to the seemingly disturbing intro that I just read now to the program? How would you want to respond to this sir? Oh yeah, we are the governments, but before then we are political parties. The political parties will use us to cheer and build the government. And so we are not surprised to hear our beliefs on the other side and the parties make such statements. There are most tell you that in a family, no one, limited housing and life, you are bound to find some kind of fiction. What matters is how you are able to manage the fiction that counts as a issue. I think, of course, I am not expecting something different in the community, but the most tell you that the fiction we have does not launch that bond. But somebody will think that it is going to finish our political party. The leaders of this party are so understanding. They want to steal their shares right from the time of political, after the time of governance. So I don't think there is something to crack over where they are good. I must show you that we are good and we are on the good side. And I know that I am sure on a company's policy. The PDP has to do what any opposition party has to do and that is call you out. I call the government and indeed the ruling party call them out. But however pedestrian that role may seem, there is a fact that cannot be easily hidden. And that fact is that the governor who is supposed to be the leader of the party at the level of the state, seems to be working in such a way that is somewhat losing or somewhat lost the confidence of those who ought to work with him. And that is why they have gone out to cry to the world that he seems to be functioning as an autocrat. Don't you think that in itself does not speak well of the governor or are these people just mischievous? They went out there to just go portray him as though he is difficult to work with? Yes, thank you so very much. That's a very short question. Now, I must tell you that New Zealanders are not stupid. They know that you are not stupid. They read in between the lines. They also listen or miss. Now, I must tell you that only you say that the people, the government is supposed to work with. Read. Yes, I must say that I do speak with them. Perhaps in my answer that the National Assembly means that the state, perhaps we are talking about state leaders. But what do you think of it? I think that one state called us, three of two said that it is only the National Assembly members of the state called us of the party in the United States. And perhaps in the state that few days ago, a few weeks ago, the three local government chairmen of the party also came up with a plan. And I ask again, when we talk of state leaders of the state, state leaders of the party, is that limited to the elected people, the core party officials and people who are elected just like the government of the National Assembly? I raised this question when I once wrote or joined that what we did. And my concern is that, who actually are these people speaking for? Are they speaking for the masses of the states? Are they speaking for the government of the people who are humanized? Who are these people or are they speaking for themselves? And before somebody would be listed or say that earlier is not sensitive to the structure of working in the party, let me tell you that no government has ever given me freedom, has ever given me respect to the political machinery that broke into power and was caring for the idea I have done so far. I give the solicits. Surely after he was appointed, I mean elected as governor, he went and picked the chief of staff among the state school members. The current chief of staff is the former secretary of the party in the ministry. Right on the podium for the general secretary of the party in the ministry. The governor also picked the leader advisor of the party. I am meeting the 20 general of the state. The governor also picked the woman leader of his zone. The woman is from zone A and leader and assistant of the party of the government. I want to tell you that the party structure is fully, fully, fully represented in that state school. And then with these five months, I say five months, remember for the first time earlier, called two positive state schools with public state school destinations. And then there was a semi-congress too, which was fully sponsored. Of course, when he called this meeting, it was too directed. Though the leader of the party, the chief, he directed the chairman. The soliciting of who should call for that for those meetings was done by the chairman of the party. My friend and brother, comrade Austin Agada, was the one who selected the secretary of that committee. All the Michelin Assembly members were invited for these meetings, including our own father, S.J. Sadejajakum, the minister to send every other stakeholder of the party at the center was invited and complicated. And of course, the oil came from this family right away in the field. And the whole thing was thrown to them. Yes, we are constituting a state executive council. Can you bring that to us? Yes, we are constituting a candidate committee for the local government. Can you go and bring some names to us? This was done. And so, I don't know who is the one who consorted the party, bring out some members of the party who were representatives of that party in the ESCO. I don't know what more we want him to do that the party will know that he actually recognize them. And then when you talk about the stakeholders saying that he is not consorting them, is they consorting from their teaching or not understanding? Then, otherwise, you are called for a meeting with the government, you are given an opportunity to express yourself, you meet commoners and you know not just one or twice. Okay, you go out, you go back and then sit. I do need to wonder whether these people are actually speaking for the state. And then, what actually worries me so much is that I would have agreed with them if the structure or if the stakeholders as they call themselves are worried that they will be taken to my leverage but it's not delivering on these promises. And so, the party is bound to stop the consequences of his failure in the next coming election. Then, I will understand. But when they came out to speak, they spoke about themselves. And you can observe that my colleagues who were there in that press conference stood up and asked sensitive questions sort of which they paid to answer at this point. Okay. I think it's about time. I think it's about time I asked you pointedly. Is there a problem between your principal and the secretary to the government of the federation because it doesn't seem to those of us who are political watchers it doesn't seem that they can fall for this melodrama is simply about people who are spokespersons of the SGF secretary to the government of federation who has to keep a facade a facade of a don't who cannot speak and a governor who perhaps want to be independent in his decision making and how he rules how he governs the state Is that the situation? Well, I can't really tell because first of all my principal has said before and over that he has no issues he has no issues with the issue and the last time I checked Your principal has no issue with the SGF but members of the National Assembly elected from Benway State had the temerity to call themselves together in a city where the number like the number 5 or number 6 man in the federation who also comes from Benway State is functioning and they had the press conference and you want to tell me that your principal does not know that they must have gotten the nod or the wink of the SGF to hold their session Is that what you are trying to make me believe sir? And maybe at this juncture you have to apply what is called a dog test and what is this? What do I mean by a dog test? When you lose like a dog you lose like a dog you switch like a dog I mean that is like a dog you probably say dog and of course you never can tell but sincerely I must tell you that these guys are actually good but I just explained to you how much his excellency has involved the structure that brought him into power which is the machine recorded to say in his government now after that could your principal be seen by the SGF who is the de facto leader of the party in your state I said de facto the general leader of the party in your state is your principal because the constitution of the APC recognizes that the elected governor of the state who is the category member of the APC will be the leader of the party in the state but we know that from the antecedents of the incumbent president whilst he was still an unelected official of state and the leader of the APC because we know that there are some peculiar states where the de facto leader is not the general leader he is your principal now being portrayed he is your principal given the impression as though because he has attained the office of the governor he is trying to rubbish the machinery that brought him to office but I just say this how much do you want me to say to you how do you rubbish the machinery when you fully involved the machinery how do you say you rubbish the machinery I just told you and I give you examples of the evidence of how much of that you have done I come back to you the secretary of the APC the public secretary of the APC in Brennan state he said to be alive now hello my friend Daniel you are good evening good evening Daniel thank you very much Daniel you have a very difficult job to do these days as the public secretary of the APC the members of your party caucus at the national assembly are openly openly are castigating your governor the party is in a state where the SGF that is the de facto leader of your party in your state your functions in Abuja is keeping mom as though he doesn't know why those people are dressing the price and your governor is insistent that he has no problem with anybody what is how would you want to help our public to unravel this I think what is happening in our state can be linked to a man having a very beautiful wife yet they were prostitutes with others and don't sleep with him the stakeholders of our party had complained to the committee of our party there was a president chairman of our party in the local government you know crying out to the state of the committee of the party but the governor is not crying out loud he is taking critical decisions without consulting stakeholders of the party and also okay Daniel Daniel in your room yes sir you are a major stakeholder of the party because you are the voice of the party in Benway state at least the bona fide voice in Benway state your party owns the governor your party has the majority of national assembly members and your cocos are addressed the press the chairman of the local government chairman of your party have also openly stated that the governor is not crying them along what is your own take personally is the governor carrying everything along of which you are a member my take is simple member of the state working committee we have asked these stakeholders to give us time to intervene and discuss with the governor because the governor needs to meet with the party quickly to resolve these issues I call these issues in the fire but the governor we need to sit up quickly call the state chairman of the party and engage the party in immediate so that we can resolve these issues immediately now you are the messy you are the messy of the pdp we are now making fun of your party as though you are a bunch of unruly politicians do not seem to know your left from your right the governor is singing from another in book the party chieftains in the state are singing from another in book the caucus the party caucus at the national assembly they are not even in tune at all and the sgf is pretending as though everything is on on kiduri but we can see that the united states apc is in a mess that is not true in politics there are interests and of course there is open friendly fire and so when these issues pop up it is not for the party to work together to join forces to fix these issues we all want to develop we all want good things for our people but of course it is early days and in politics these kinds of things happen do happen it is led by the governor to call the party we will sit together for us to have headway dania we really want to thank you sorry we don't have much time to further engage with you but we will have another opportunity I also want to add that the governor apc is united focused and is 21st allowed dania you will have to go to the federal sector and the office of the governor of the federation starts singing that to the boards for those of us Nigerians who are political watchers it is obvious that something is not hanging tightly thank you very much pleasure for having you tell us the governor we have to go we don't have much time anymore thank you we will do this another time Mr. Thasou thank you very much for the privilege of your virtual presence we do appreciate thank you thank you we will do it another time we will do it another time we will do it another time the friendly fire should not kill some of the boards in the program thank you